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  • 50 Pokémon base stats that don't make any sense
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  • @angrysonicdonut1653
    @angrysonicdonut1653 Рік тому +4354

    Reminder that Tinkaton doesn't even get a super-effective attack to use against Corviknight. 😂

    • @Ditto.007
      @Ditto.007 Рік тому +1

      That won't stop the little munchkin from slaughtering every corviknight in Paldea 😈

    • @jorgegonzalezavila9376
      @jorgegonzalezavila9376 Рік тому +718

      Gigaton Hammer should have been super effective against Steel-types.

    • @rocky_027
      @rocky_027 Рік тому +362

      ​@@jorgegonzalezavila9376 or atleast Corviknight

    • @stephaniecherry1908
      @stephaniecherry1908 Рік тому +113

      It just want to make it suffer

    • @lightdrgn20
      @lightdrgn20 Рік тому +299

      It uses the hammer to knock rocks into it. We do not have a golf move yet.

  • @lorenzomartinelli7665
    @lorenzomartinelli7665 Рік тому +1277

    Onix is actually a masterpiece of design. Its design makes for a very intimidating Pokémon for children who are fighting the very first gym of the series, but its poor stats make it a very easy opponent to defeat. Basically, he is the Pokémon equivalent of fathers letting their children win a fight just to boost their self-confidence

    • @Owain9797
      @Owain9797 Рік тому +112

      Rock type is also both resistant to a lot of common early game types but at the same time has loads of weaknesses, including to two starter types. So it’s a perfect type for teaching new players about type effectiveness too

    • @kyx5631
      @kyx5631 Рік тому +63

      @@Owain9797 What you said, PLUS it has awful special (defense), meaning even if you picked Charmander as a kid, you can spam non-effective embers and still have a realistic chance of beating it.

    • @anthonydavid3348
      @anthonydavid3348 Рік тому +20

      Onix is essentially Pokémon’s Whispy Woods.

    • @lorenzomartinelli7665
      @lorenzomartinelli7665 Рік тому +15

      @@anthonydavid3348 honestly, I believe that Onix has an even better design than Whispy Woods, since the latter doesn't even pretend to be menacing, while Onix looks threatening, but it's actually a piece of cake, provided you picked the right Pokémon of course

    • @anthonydavid3348
      @anthonydavid3348 Рік тому +4

      @@lorenzomartinelli7665 That's a fair opinion

  • @chrisschoenthaler5184
    @chrisschoenthaler5184 9 місяців тому +67

    In Spiritomb’s case, it does make sense that it isn’t overwhelmingly powerful.
    It was introduced in Gen 4, when the typing of Ghost/Dark had no weaknesses.

    • @jeffreygao3956
      @jeffreygao3956 4 місяці тому +6

      That type combo was built for a slow, defensive Pokémon.

    • @little_bunnymat
      @little_bunnymat Місяць тому

      @@jeffreygao3956OK

  • @melissalawson7803
    @melissalawson7803 Рік тому +22

    Purugly is easy to explain. Like most cats, they get the zoomies.

  • @MeisuMeisu23
    @MeisuMeisu23 Рік тому +904

    I'm a big fan of the theory that pokemon stats are representative of their abilities specifically in battle. For example, Latios and Latias may be able to fly as fast as jets but it would be hard to make it to top speed in the confines of a battle.

  • @Lokheim
    @Lokheim Рік тому +512

    I always figured Tinkaton’s hammer was it’s species way of compensating for it’s own weak physical attack, which is where Gigaton Hammer comes in. Tinkaton itself is naturally weak, but is smart enough to create tools, more specifically the hammer to fight, creating it’s signature move in the process.

    • @cintronproductions9430
      @cintronproductions9430 Рік тому +46

      Yeah, basically the hammer has a whopping attack stat, but the ability Truant. XD

    • @Lokheim
      @Lokheim Рік тому +34

      @@cintronproductions9430 Exactly, i’m gonna assume not being able to use it for one turn is because that hammer is heavy AF

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      @teamneondre4m269 Рік тому

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      @teamneondre4m269 Рік тому

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      @StackatackaStudios Рік тому

      @@Lokheim ITS BIG BRAIN TIME :)

  • @Basically_Anybody
    @Basically_Anybody 9 місяців тому +69

    For any of the attack/special attack stat facts, remember that any pokemon before Diamond and Pearl had to reflect that the physical special split hadn't happened. This is why Shedinja has high attack, ghost was physical type attacks.

    • @Draeckon
      @Draeckon 3 місяці тому +4

      This means nothing when it comes to the stats. Tons of Pokemon had high Physical or Special they couldn't use due to types being hard-locked to physical or special. Such as Flareon having an insanely high attack, but no physical STAB fire moves it could use to take full advantage of it. The Gengar line also has high special, but all the ghost moves are physical so it never gets to take full advantage of its main stat. Etc, etc.

    • @R-PTCbruh.io777
      @R-PTCbruh.io777 16 днів тому

      Shedinja is introduced in Gen 3, where it had no stat changes, aside from HP, which is lowered to 1

  • @paulmann8570
    @paulmann8570 9 місяців тому +6

    "Onix is so weak"
    *Laughs in Little Cup*

  • @grundgutigertv6170
    @grundgutigertv6170 Рік тому +364

    In german, the speed stat is called "Initiative", which describes the ability to REACT fast, not to run fast.
    Also, the japanese word translates to Agility

    • @douglasnorona6895
      @douglasnorona6895 Рік тому +59

      Yeah, "speed" can be very misleading, dexterity and initiative explain it better... Though, they may not be that easy to understand at first

    • @showingthelinks8441
      @showingthelinks8441 Рік тому +5

      Came looking for this comment

    • @joeyking6160
      @joeyking6160 Рік тому +10

      Those are all different stats in dnd

    • @marlonknockaert3233
      @marlonknockaert3233 Рік тому

      I didn't know that! thank you!

    • @rhodu
      @rhodu Рік тому +23

      DM: “roll for initiative.”
      Dedenne then proceeded to roll 6 straight nat 20’s purely to assert dominance.

  • @dridermaster
    @dridermaster Рік тому +302

    For speed you left out Dragonite. It has dex entries stating it can circle the globe in 16 hours (timezone changes aside to be assumed) and has multiple instances referencing this (like the mail dragonite zipping around in the first movie) yet it has a base speed of 80. This is a speed stat tied with Mamoswine, a giant Pig-Mammoth, with short thick legs.

    • @carmelle127
      @carmelle127 Рік тому +23

      I completely forgot about that!!! Dragonite is so fast in the anime but slow as hell in the games wtf

    • @KLenjoyerofwomen
      @KLenjoyerofwomen Рік тому +21

      My main explanation for these stats is that in the dex entries it references the pokemon's max speed, not taking into account the pokemon's acceleration, and while in battle its pretty hard to accelerate for 10 seconds without being attacked.

    • @Ceannsias
      @Ceannsias Рік тому +5

      It learns extreme speed

    • @casualsister7690
      @casualsister7690 Рік тому +14

      Goodra also has a speed stat of 80, meaning it should swim around the globe in 16 hours.

    • @subjectomicron5445
      @subjectomicron5445 Рік тому +8

      I mean
      Have you seen wild boars or elephants charge? Theyre pretty fast for such chunky creatures! They have to be speedy to gore their opponents with their tusks

  • @elchjol2777
    @elchjol2777 9 місяців тому +21

    To put the speed of Pigiot into context, Mach 2 is the max speed of the Euro fighter Typhoon with afterburners on. Fighters normally don't fight at their max speed though. Sure the F-15 and Mig-29 have the bird beat at around Mach 2.3 and the Foxhound at nearly mach 3 but damn that bird is insanely fast.

    • @thedyingmeme6
      @thedyingmeme6 5 місяців тому

      And the F22 Raptor, widely regarded as the scariest modern jet, can SUPERCRUISE at around Mach 2.5
      (I don't believe the Foxhoud actually reached Mach 3 lemme look it up real quick)
      Okay i looked it up and it could TECHNICALLY reach mach 3.2 with engine damage but actually reached mach 2.8

  • @DracoAries
    @DracoAries Рік тому +58

    I never saw the speed stat as a Pokémon's physical speed, but rather their reaction speed in battle. So to me it makes sense that you see Pokémon like Varoom and Veluza moving at high speeds in Scarlet and Violet despite their bad speed stats; there are two different kinds of speeds in the game.

  • @kevh6303
    @kevh6303 Рік тому +198

    I've come to better terms with a lot of weird Speed stats once I started looking at it as a "reaction time" stat instead. This line of thinking gets much more obvious with Dugtrio, it ducks quickly back into the ground before you can hit it, like whack-a-mole.

    • @dragonmasterlance123
      @dragonmasterlance123 Рік тому +30

      Also explains why fat cat Purugly can outspeed jet dragons.

    • @vincentchen9133
      @vincentchen9133 Рік тому +9

      I was getting really annoyed also with wugtrio, because it kept outspeeding and ohkoing mega rayquaza. I feel this theory doesn't really apply, as wugtrio's heads stick out of a rock.

    • @RajaniIsa
      @RajaniIsa Рік тому +6

      Especially w/ Celestela - Nothing said it didn't take time getting around to flying at high speeds.

    • @yaduvarma9854
      @yaduvarma9854 Рік тому +14

      Exactly... Speed in Pokemon is reflex .... Not moving speed...

    • @Crazy-pl1lo
      @Crazy-pl1lo Рік тому +4

      trash head cannon

  • @ilyashiz
    @ilyashiz Рік тому +381

    Speed Stat isn't entirely just how fast they move, it's more about how fast you attack. For example vikavolt is fast, but he just might need a long charge up for an attack, hence low stats in speed

    • @14akamaru
      @14akamaru Рік тому +41

      That's a good theory. I just figured it was based on reaction time, meaning Pokemon that can move fast lore-wise yet have low Speed stats are either slow at processing the command, or are trying to not disobey immediately, causing a pause.

    • @Lockz1111
      @Lockz1111 Рік тому +22

      Attack and special attack are some of the least defensible ones, speed is one I think is the easiest to defend because these are combat stats being show not stats for how they move at traveling speed. A lot of super fast things are handicapped by smaller arenas and the like where turning is required more frequently

    • @TheBT
      @TheBT Рік тому +20

      Yeah, it has always felt more like reflexes than top speed. A featherweight boxer would have a higher 'speed' stat than a sprinter because they would beat them to the punch.
      The one that I also feel is misrepresented is defence, HP is the stat that determines how much damage something can take and defence is how difficult it is to land a good blow. Whether that be an evasion tank or in a full set of armour. Kartana, very tricky to hit properly but can't take much damage

    • @LevensPotatoVault
      @LevensPotatoVault 11 місяців тому +3

      Speed=Reaction Time you could say

    • @Slender_Man_186
      @Slender_Man_186 11 місяців тому +5

      Exactly, travel speed vs combat speed, I’ve seen this brought up a lot in power scaling discussions.

  • @Azure852
    @Azure852 Рік тому +15

    'HOW FAST IS THIS HAMSTER" got me dying🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @billyt6533
      @billyt6533 5 місяців тому

      I was laughing for hours

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    @glitcheremily8994 Рік тому +61

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      @l0lan00b3 11 місяців тому +1

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  • @Unknown_user6969
    @Unknown_user6969 Рік тому +335

    I'd say speed refers to reaction speed rather than movement speed. Diglett and Dugtrio have really good reaction speeds.

    • @marchu-
      @marchu- Рік тому +5

      adgreed

    • @trueredpanda1538
      @trueredpanda1538 Рік тому +8

      I thought the same, but how would a move like tail wind five better reaction time? (It adds winds on your side of the field to move faster)

    • @nullpoint3346
      @nullpoint3346 Рік тому +6

      @@trueredpanda1538 Because it's physical reaction speed, not mental reaction speed.

    • @trueredpanda1538
      @trueredpanda1538 Рік тому +1

      @@nullpoint3346 I know, I was pointing it out tail wind to the main commentor, basicly, I thought mental speed could be the case 10 years or so ago, but obviusly, sinch I do mention tail wind, I am more then aware.

    • @Sam-tl4ho
      @Sam-tl4ho Рік тому +7

      A yes hisuan braviary, a bird, reacts slower than cottone, makes sense

  • @noodnood9668
    @noodnood9668 Рік тому +528

    I'm pretty sure a Pokémon's Speed stat does not equate to the speed at which they can run, fly or swim around. I think the Speed stat moreso equates to their action speed in battle, if that makes any sense. The same could actually go for all stats but Speed most of all

    • @davidharshman7645
      @davidharshman7645 Рік тому +89

      Yeah...reaction speed vs travel speed...a creature can definitely have one without the other.

    • @thesecretsuspects
      @thesecretsuspects Рік тому +43

      Yeah, I've always had the thought of the stats only being battle stats. Basically the rules of the ingame game of battles.
      Would also explain how Pokémon weak to water can swim in it. They aren't allergic to water, just take more damage from being splashed with it inside of the battles.

    • @Gilgalad1111
      @Gilgalad1111 Рік тому +6

      Yeah I would agree with this

    • @noodnood9668
      @noodnood9668 Рік тому +26

      @@thesecretsuspects yeah, exactly! The rules of Pokémon battles don't have to be the same as the rules of nature in the Poké-verse. I think regular water is different from water originating from Pokémon moves, which definitely has some kind of elemental magic involved which is why it can damage other Pokémon, while rain or swimming in water does not. At least, that's what I like to believe ^^'

    • @KingKayro87
      @KingKayro87 Рік тому +26

      It's reflexes, I guess, so that would mean that the cat doesn't have greater movement speed than a plane, rather it has greater reflexes since it's a cat, hence the term "cat-like reflexes."
      Still doesn't excuse Vikavolt being slower than Grubbin

  • @dakshgangwar1208
    @dakshgangwar1208 Рік тому +11

    What I think regarding the speed stat is that it is also meant to show how fast a Pokemon can react. Explaining why rhyhorn's speed is low implying it can't react fast to incoming attacks.

    • @AwesomeMooseSmile
      @AwesomeMooseSmile 9 місяців тому

      So why is machamp, a Pokémon who can punch at mach speeds, a measly 50, or Decidueye who can shoot arrows faster than a blink, only at 70 speed?

    • @detmaz
      @detmaz 9 місяців тому

      i dont think, you know what the speed stat does...

    • @dakshgangwar1208
      @dakshgangwar1208 9 місяців тому

      @@detmaz bruh, what I said was to define the speed stat. For the instance if i didn't know what the speed stat did , i wouldn't even be on the video commenting my views. 😂😂 I think you don't know how the common sense works.

    • @detmaz
      @detmaz 9 місяців тому

      then explain smth like decidueye and litten@@dakshgangwar1208

  • @BuThUb
    @BuThUb Рік тому +115

    Onyx makes perfect sense. It's the ace of the first boss in the game. They wanted it to be intimidating but manageable.

    • @therexyogaming
      @therexyogaming Рік тому +24

      In that same game it's also part of the Elite 4, so...

    • @domskillet5744
      @domskillet5744 Рік тому +7

      @@therexyogaming .....Twice

    • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
      @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 Місяць тому

      @@therexyogaming and I think 8th gym and elite for elite cave lol u think they would buff it or give an atk item buff oynx

  • @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
    @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 Рік тому +185

    8:42
    If you can catch it, Veluza literally uses Fillet Away before attacking you (that is why there is a 2-second timer between when it notices you and attacks you)
    And it does actually heal the flesh when entering battle

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      @StackatackaStudios Рік тому +3

      66 likes it’s too perfect I’m not strong enough 😭😭

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 Рік тому +3

      Do You Think Gamefreak Should Start Showing Trade Evolutions In The Wild ? .. I Think It’s Very UNFAIR That Pokémon Like Machamp/Trevenant/Alakazam/Scizor Kingdra Etc Aren’t EVER Available Outside Of Being Traded , That’s Completely Ridiculous . These Pokémon Have Been Around For Generation’s And Have Been Shown To Be In The Overworld On MULTIPLE OCCASIONS In Anime , This Is Something That Needs To Change In My Personal Opinion ! 😒

    • @foster_the_goat-9420
      @foster_the_goat-9420 Рік тому +2

      @@melvondrewhite2674 legends arceus bruh

    • @mikekwon95
      @mikekwon95 Рік тому +1

      @@melvondrewhite2674 they did that since Sword and Shield, almost all trade evolutions are available in the wild, those are not in the wild can be caught in the dens

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 Рік тому

      @@mikekwon95 But Not In Scarlet/Violet Right ? My Point Is Where’s The Consistency ??! .. They Did It For One Game What About The Others ..

  • @kaq466
    @kaq466 Рік тому +7

    7:56 , It's not a racing competition, it's a walking competition.

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    @kingkiddius1388 Рік тому +8

    9:53
    Your mortal enemy is our mortal enemy

  • @KelKav
    @KelKav Рік тому +145

    I feel like it is worth noting that speed doesn’t mean how fast you can move, it’s more how long it takes to “charge up” an attack. That’s why electrode and regieleki are so fast despite being just spheres, one is a primed bomb, and the other is just made of electricity, no “charging up” necessary, just touch ‘em and it’s used Thunderbolt.

    • @bidoof6458
      @bidoof6458 Рік тому +7

      Just want to point out that the examples you gave aren't great. In Pokeathlon, Electrode is one of the fastest pokémon (like, he can roll fast).
      You've also got Pokémon like Accelgore, where it's clear that they're just able to move quickly (as shown in Pokepark 2), which is why they have such speed.

    • @windstar120025
      @windstar120025 Рік тому +11

      its not about attack charge its about attack response. A fast pokemon is one that can navigate and respond well to commands efficiently, HENCE electrode and Regieleki, one is litteral lightning and the other is a Sphere is an extreme ease to maneuver and orient itself as needed on a dime. meanwhile a pokemon can fly as fast as a jet plane sure, but that doesn't mean it can stop, orient itself for attack and then start moving again efficiently in a combat scenario.

    • @dariusdrake7515
      @dariusdrake7515 Рік тому +7

      My head-cannon on the "Speed" Stat, is that it's more accurate to consider it the "Mobility" or "Recovery to Attack Again" Stat. It's not actually about how fast the Pokemon's maximum distance-over-time is, but how well the Pokemon can react to things around it.
      - Rhyhorn has low speed because if it attacks something, say by tackling it, it takes comparatively forever, say 10~20 seconds, to get back into a position where it can do so again.
      - Vikavolt can move around quickly, but it's special attacks take time to charge up, and it's physical attacks rely on it opening and then shutting it's pincer's.
      - Escavalier is in a similar position to Rhyhorn, requiring time to remove it's arm-lances from whatever they get lodged into, and, with a pair of long sticks stuck to itself, it's kind of hard to maneuverer around obstacles, such as enemies (or trees), to get into a position to properly attack your foes.
      - Varoom has the issues of motor vehicles do, they're great for causing destruction via speed-based impacts, but they need a minute to reposition themselves so that they have a chance to hit you a second time.
      - Veluza, same issue as with Varoom. Great vertical acceleration, poor turning capabilities.
      - Wiglett & Dugtrio may live half-underground, but they are able to move around anywhere, change direction on a dime, and could theoretically, in a game with a completely unrelated set of combat mechanics, attack near constantly in combat.
      This does seem to fit with your explanation, KelKav, it's just more detailed and gives more detailed descriptions.

    • @user-dz7cn7vd2y
      @user-dz7cn7vd2y Рік тому

      Like rockets need time to get their max speed

    • @TStormj90
      @TStormj90 Рік тому +1

      Instead of 'speed' I like to use "Reaction Time". That's why Slowpoke/bro/king and Slakoth are slow. Takes a little bit for them to understand and translate lol.
      That's why Psychics are generally fast: they can translate better. And electricity doesn't think, it just acts.

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      @Ditto.007 Рік тому

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      @Comosclaw Рік тому

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      @oohlookapineapple3518 Рік тому +4

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      @Ditto.007 Рік тому +6

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      @asia-rg6wf Рік тому

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  • @zomula7657
    @zomula7657 Рік тому +6

    An explanation that I came up with to explain the oddity of speed compared to dex entry is that it isn't straight speed but instead agility. Rhyhorn can move pretty fast in a straight line, but it can't turn quickly. Glarian Zapdos can run very fast but as seen in the chase with it it doesn't take turns easily and it must slow down to turn. Dedenne on the other hand can easily turn without losing speed.

    • @MouldMadeMind
      @MouldMadeMind 11 місяців тому +1

      That's just straight up the case, all most all other translations of pokemon call it something like that instead of speed.

  • @CoolBoyWolbOfficial
    @CoolBoyWolbOfficial Рік тому +4

    11:00 Jumpluff is a light creature that moves with the wind, but iron treads is a heavy like elephant that is surprisingly fast.

    • @thedyingmeme6
      @thedyingmeme6 5 місяців тому

      Modern tanks like the Abrams MBT (for example) weigh something like 60 tons and have a max speed of 40mph

  • @PedroHenrique-mk5zi
    @PedroHenrique-mk5zi Рік тому +62

    Rayquaza has 95 of speed and Salamance has 100.
    Simisear, Simisage and Simipour all have 101 of speed.

  • @seandewar47
    @seandewar47 Рік тому +72

    I have a feeling that he'll mention Vikavolt when it comes to speed. The reason why Vikavolt is so slow is because it's a railgun, which are known to be insanely slow to fire

    • @xaviermillan4496
      @xaviermillan4496 Рік тому +22

      Exactly! The Speed stats make more sense if it defines how quick it is to make a move in battle rather than travel speed in the wild. Although it looks like devs that create the pokedex entries probably just make them based off of their designs only.

  • @jingranwan1243
    @jingranwan1243 10 місяців тому +4

    Leafeon's dex entry explains why it's stronger than a rock.
    Cells similar to those of plants have been found in its fur. Its hard tail can fell a large tree with one stroke, and the tail's sharpness exceeds even that of a sword crafted by a master.

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  • @robert_yoder
    @robert_yoder Рік тому +66

    I think the physical attack stat is more canonically based on their ability to utilize physical pokemon attacks, not just the ability to break or destroy things.

  • @PossiblyKapri
    @PossiblyKapri Рік тому +20

    The funny thing about Pidgeot is that in Pokémon Masters, Blue is seen chasing his, saying something like “it just ran off really fast”, meaning that Blue may have run at Mach 2

  • @YourClipGuru
    @YourClipGuru Рік тому +5

    6:53 a logical explanation could be that Vikavolt „lost“ the ability to dig through the ground, which was obviously grubbin's forte

  • @Arabrax29
    @Arabrax29 Рік тому +7

    I think (regarding the Speed stat) that it actually represents how fast a Pokémon can't react, rather than how fast a Pokémon can move. Celesteela, for example, moves very fast, but a rocket ship probably takes some time reacting to turn and so on. That Vikavolt is so slow is still dumb, though.

  • @echogaia1708
    @echogaia1708 Рік тому +34

    The problem with Flareon is that Eeveelutions share the same stats but placed differently. All the others already have the 130 elsewhere but Attack. So for Flareon it was Attack obviously.

  • @sparrowflyaway
    @sparrowflyaway Рік тому +41

    Ninjask having half the defense of Nincada makes a lot of sense when you consider that it's shedding it's outer... skin? exoskeleton? I don't know what the right word is. And then that shed reanimates into Shedinja. it lost its armor to evolve, leaving it in two parts, the squishy inner bug and the hard outer shell of armor.

  • @RoninCatholic
    @RoninCatholic 11 місяців тому +5

    The Speed stat doesn't represent or map to movement speed, it's _attack_ speed. It's your quick draw in the cowboy duel, not how fast your horse runs. Higher speed just means that when you and your enemy are both making attacks with the same amount of setup/telegraphing at the same time, yours connects first.

  • @someonenamedpix
    @someonenamedpix Рік тому

    Congrats on 2 mil! Keep up the great vids :D

  • @TimTam_3
    @TimTam_3 Рік тому +61

    CONGRATS ON THE 2 MILLION MIKEY!!!!!!! I remember watching you when I was younger. I fell out of Pokémon for a few years, but came back within the last 2 years. Awesome to see you hit another milestone

  • @LunarWingCloud
    @LunarWingCloud Рік тому +87

    I'm positive the reason Onix's stats are what they are stems from a possibility that Onix was already decided to be included in Brock's team and had its stats balanced around this near the end of development

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 Рік тому +2

      Do You Think Gamefreak Should Start Showing Trade Evolutions In The Wild ? .. I Think It’s Very UNFAIR That Pokémon Like Machamp/Trevenant/Alakazam/Scizor Kingdra Etc Aren’t EVER Available Outside Of Being Traded , That’s Completely Ridiculous . These Pokémon Have Been Around For Generation’s And Have Been Shown To Be In The Overworld On MULTIPLE OCCASIONS In Anime , This Is Something That Needs To Change In My Personal Opinion ! 😒

    • @Wailmur
      @Wailmur Рік тому

      ​ melvondre white play pokemon sword and shield

    • @melvondrewhite2674
      @melvondrewhite2674 Рік тому

      @@Wailmur That’s 1 Game , Where’s The Consistency ??

  • @Giga_Dwarf
    @Giga_Dwarf Рік тому +5

    7:11 I mean to be fair the Pokédex doesn’t say that it does the maneuvers quickly
    Maybe it does them in slow motion idk

  • @serenayeung
    @serenayeung Рік тому

    Great video Mikey and good job on 2 mil!

  • @nerddwarf
    @nerddwarf Рік тому +40

    HP would be the amount of damage a pokémon can take (Wailord and whale blubber or Hariyama and body fat. Easy to cut or bruise, but you've got *a lot* to try and cut through before you do any meaningful damage (infections not included))
    Defense would be how much damage the pokémon takes from an attack (Rock and Steel)

  • @alv1506
    @alv1506 Рік тому +36

    I think the speed stat refers to reaction time rather than movement velocity. Celesteela for instance can move crazy fast but doesn't look like it can react in time to its surroundings

    • @user-dz7cn7vd2y
      @user-dz7cn7vd2y Рік тому +4

      And also needs time to get it's max speed. Like real rockets

    • @RabblesTheBinx
      @RabblesTheBinx Рік тому +3

      I'm pretty sure SV proves this is canon. Veluza doesn't have a particularly impressive Speed stat, iirc, but it jets at you like a bat outta hell on the overworld.

  • @aryanravi2627
    @aryanravi2627 Рік тому +1

    Congrats on 2mil mikey! I have been watching since 800k or so, you deserve it

  • @sebastianramirez5781
    @sebastianramirez5781 Рік тому

    dude I just found your channel again because I was looking at my youtube subscriptions history, when I subbed you had 50k subs because I subbe don December 2014, I literally did not recognize you with the beard but it looks sick, keep up the great work man I'm proud you have so many subs now

  • @glider2168
    @glider2168 Рік тому +207

    2 million is a huge accomplishment man! You really deserve all of it!

  • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
    @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Рік тому +24

    10:58 this one makes a lot of sense tbh. Jumpluff abuses the wind to its advantage, like the first time I saw the hoppip fly away at the speed of light by getting taken away by the wind in game.

  • @kyletrexler4973
    @kyletrexler4973 Рік тому

    Loved that Rhyhorn Race animation!
    Great video!

  • @johnnypollack3243
    @johnnypollack3243 Рік тому

    Love the video and keep up the great work mikey

  • @hawthorneplays
    @hawthorneplays Рік тому +17

    I think the reason Kartana gets a super high defense stat is the same reason swords are very strong. A paper thin blade should still hold up even though there’s not much there.

  • @AerialApples
    @AerialApples Рік тому +11

    My theory is that a pokemon's speed stat is it's reflexes and not the actual speed a pokemon can fly/run/swim at. It explain why Veluza and Varoom are fast outside of battle but become insanely slow in battle. It also explains Purrugly's speed stat. Purrugly is a cat and has cat-like reflexes.

  • @thescorbunny9511
    @thescorbunny9511 Рік тому +3

    I think in the case of Nincada, it makes sense cuz Nincada has the shell still on and it shed the shell (shedinja) to evolve into ninjask so its defense is a combination of both Ninjask and Shedinja defense (each have 45)

  • @nicomedina7161
    @nicomedina7161 Рік тому +2

    I like to think speed refers to how fast an attackers attack can connect with an opponent rather than agility and one example is how vikavolt needs time to charge an attack from it's mandibles while being incredibly fast

  • @BlueNinjakoopa553
    @BlueNinjakoopa553 Рік тому +14

    Huntail and Gorebyss seem to have high defense stats due to living deep underwater, where their skin and bones can withstand the extreme pressure.
    Also, Nincada's and Ninjask's weird defense stats seem to be references to the life cycle of the cicada in real life. Cicada's spend like 90% of their lives as nymphs that live underground and have harder exoskeletons to protect them from predators. As adults, they only live for a few weeks (compared to years as nymphs). Ninjask's frailness seems to reference how brief an adult cicada's lifespan is, while Nincada's endurance does so for the relatively long time spent as a nymph. And then Shedinja is the leftover shell that looks alive but isn't, hence the Ghost typing and 1 HP.

  • @unbind_all
    @unbind_all Рік тому +57

    I subscribe to the idea that despite Corviknight’s entry mentioning it has predators, and Tinkaton’s talking about it attacking Corviknight, Tinkaton is NOT a predator of Corviknight.
    Tink’s Scarlet entry describes it as having a “daring disposition,” which would imply it has a habit of doing things that are disadvantageous for it, such as pestering a stronger Pokemon, Corviknight, for no good reason.

    • @subjectomicron5445
      @subjectomicron5445 Рік тому +11

      Personally,since bird feathers can come off when a bird is startled i think Tinkaton gets the metal for its hammer by startling Corviknight and picking up the fallen metal feathers

    • @a1marine105
      @a1marine105 Рік тому +4

      ​@@subjectomicron5445 that's genius thinking
      It possibly finds larges objects that it tosses at corvi which also results I fallen metal that is used as parts for a hammer

    • @subjectomicron5445
      @subjectomicron5445 Рік тому

      @@a1marine105 thanks but i dunno about genius,it's just common sense

    • @JayceCH.
      @JayceCH. Рік тому +4

      I subscribe to the fact that Pokedex entries are just bullshit made up. Theres so many ridiculous examples like Magcargo and Gardevoir.

    • @Squish-E
      @Squish-E Рік тому

      @@JayceCH. Pokédex entries being made up is actually canonized by the galar fossils- scientists made up historical backstories for them despite being accidental lab fusions that never existed in history

  • @DepFromDiscord
    @DepFromDiscord Рік тому

    This was the first MandJTV video I watched and I’ve loved this channel since

  • @RCNGhost
    @RCNGhost Рік тому

    Yo congrats on 2M subs btw. Don’t stop tho

  • @Watermelon-Pizza
    @Watermelon-Pizza Рік тому +58

    One Pokemon left unmentioned here that has weird stats is Flamigo. It's got a BST of 500, which is the same as Mon like Alakazam, Aegislash, Wailord, and Calyrex. You can find Flamigo before you fully finish the *tutorial*.
    (Oh yeah, and good job on 2,000,000 :D)

    • @DaakkuuYRS
      @DaakkuuYRS Рік тому +14

      That's how just goes the power creep in every generation. For example, you could get a Shiftry before the first gym in gen 8. And then you could get for it crazy level 1 moves since reminding pokemon a move in gen 8 is 100% free.

    • @theserpent8667
      @theserpent8667 Рік тому +4

      This is why gen 9 is ridiculous. Power creep, weird or stupid designs for certain Pokémon and people and a general uncanniness to the whole thing.

    • @Watermelon-Pizza
      @Watermelon-Pizza Рік тому +9

      @@theserpent8667 Its definitely not the best installment, but it gave me Tinkaton and Ceruledge, so I can't complain.

    • @theserpent8667
      @theserpent8667 Рік тому +4

      @@Watermelon-Pizza It does have some cool Pokémon, so I'll give you that.

    • @cintronproductions9430
      @cintronproductions9430 Рік тому +1

      Flamigo is a beast, I love it. XD 🦩

  • @lionessoftor4139
    @lionessoftor4139 Рік тому +43

    I think Onix needs a reginal form to be it's "True" form. Like the reason it's so weak elsewhere is that the soil has the wring elements or something.

    • @jawaf2835
      @jawaf2835 Рік тому +1

      its a limestone onix or like a basalt onix which is rock fire and an obsidian steelix which is fire steel near a volcano

    • @shirshobanerjee7751
      @shirshobanerjee7751 9 місяців тому

      Or make one of its abilities huge power, and make its attack base 60

    • @simohayha6031
      @simohayha6031 7 місяців тому

      Anime had a crystal onix. Rock fairy would fit

  • @Aghul
    @Aghul Рік тому

    "A pudgy fat cat can outrun jets" My dude, have you ever seen a cat otw to get food? xD

  • @RinSyuveil
    @RinSyuveil Рік тому +1

    I have a feeling Speed is just alertness like how quick they can realize it’s their turn in combat

  • @ralpbeez8414
    @ralpbeez8414 Рік тому +10

    For the record, Tinkaton's hammer is made from Pawniard/Bisharp, NOT Corviknight. It's a "common knowledge" thing even Tinkaton's own dex entry (if people actually read it) states it's a DARING (risky) move for it to toss stones at Corviknight.
    Nevermind that on-top of having poorer stats than the bird's defenses, Tinkaton also does not learn any super effective moves against it!

    • @vienne_iris
      @vienne_iris Рік тому

      In the scarlet pokédex it says, “This intelligent Pokémon has a very daring disposition. It knocks rocks into the sky with its hammer, aiming for flying Corviknight.” I do not know where you got the information from though.

  • @MaiSakurajoestar
    @MaiSakurajoestar Рік тому +9

    12:17 I can explain leafeon, since it’s leaves, and leaves are naturally bendable and flexible, it’s not really taking the brunt of a punch, it’s bending it’s body around the punch. 😂

  • @Munchkin.Of.Pern09
    @Munchkin.Of.Pern09 9 місяців тому +3

    I think that the Pokemon Speed Stat is actually referring to it’s reaction time rather than how fast it can move from point A to point B. Because Speed doesn’t effect if you can avoid - *outrun* - an attack, that’s dependent on Evasion. But speed DOES affect turn order, and in PLA, having a higher speed stat also effects how easily you can get off multiple turns in a row. To compare it to TTRPGs, that’s not movement speed, that’s initiative.

  • @Klausbro
    @Klausbro Рік тому +1

    Congrats on 2 million, I’ve been watching for so, so long. I’m a senior in high school now, and I’ve been watching since six grade at least. Well before 1 million at the least

  • @jenjenhocho3188
    @jenjenhocho3188 Рік тому +9

    13:53
    Nincada having 90 Def while Ninjask has 45 Def makes sense if you take into account that Shedninja also has 45 Def.

  • @juanca2567
    @juanca2567 Рік тому +6

    2:36 that was a funny animation. Machamp protecting his/her kid like that was a bit cute.

  • @jaysRP420
    @jaysRP420 Рік тому

    i died when this man said " How Fast is this Hamster" hhahaha

  • @hollow-1
    @hollow-1 Рік тому

    Glad to see he’s still posting after I stopped watching him and forgot him, I’m really happy to see he’s still on here.

  • @notimportant4747
    @notimportant4747 Рік тому +21

    Dugtrio’s Pokédex states that it can pull it head in and out of the ground at the speed of light, so 120 speed is actually lower than it should be

    • @theschnozzler
      @theschnozzler Рік тому

      Dex entries aren't that trustable since they can be quite exaggerated like magcargo being hotter than the sun or tyranitar destroying mountains to make it's home

  • @rangertalksdogsgames7996
    @rangertalksdogsgames7996 Рік тому +21

    Congrats on 2 million!
    I have an idea for some of your other more recent but now out dated videos.
    IE, history of types, you could do shorts talking about the new changes

  • @Squidyshinx
    @Squidyshinx Рік тому +1

    OMG YOU HIT 2MIL SUBSCRIBERS!!! CONGRATS

  • @rayyaninspookymonth1630
    @rayyaninspookymonth1630 Рік тому +2

    0:39 just a reminder that, that was before the physical and special split, and before the split, ghost and bug were physical.

  • @vron7994
    @vron7994 Рік тому +6

    4:20 “HoW dO tHeY bLaSt EqUaLly????” -MandJTV 2023

  • @asia-rg6wf
    @asia-rg6wf Рік тому +3

    You forgot one drowzee has an insane power of making Mikey fall in love with them😂😂

  • @loglink
    @loglink Рік тому +3

    13:15 “paper weird origami thing”

  • @dreadfighter9812
    @dreadfighter9812 Рік тому

    "Is this hamster the flash?"
    Funny stuff

  • @proplaystowin
    @proplaystowin Рік тому +11

    Shedinja has defensive stats
    Shedinja has around 5 hp in mystery dungeon and a comically high defence as to where the regular attack always does 1 damage

  • @PheonixFire92946
    @PheonixFire92946 Рік тому +9

    The speed stuff makes some sense to me. Rather than looking at it in terms of how fast they can run or fly, it may be more about reaction time. They can move faster than they can react or they can react faster than they can move.
    My family plays a table top RPG called Champions (it's a superhero game). In Champions, the speed of a character is multiplied out of combat making it so your character can fly at hundreds of miles per hour, but fights at a little over normal human speeds. That's how I see pokemon speeds; combat speed and out of combat speed.

  • @landonterrell9697
    @landonterrell9697 7 місяців тому

    It’s crazy that after 8 months it’s still watching this video entertainment despite watching it twice lol I love MandJTV

  • @joelpoikolainen
    @joelpoikolainen Рік тому

    Congrats on 2 million subs!!!!! Great job!!!

  • @lambit923
    @lambit923 Рік тому +40

    I've always thought of speed in Pokémon to be closer to overall dexterity and reaction time, which would be more helpful in a battle than just running real fast. Some of these Pokémon have absolutely insane top speeds, but they can't necessarily achieve those feats of speed within what would be the equivalent time of a single turn in a Pokémon battle.

    • @LuckyBones77
      @LuckyBones77 Рік тому +5

      Ohhhhh dude, so many more pokemon speed stats make sense if you think of it more as a ttrpg dexterity stat. I mean, there’s still exceptions, but reframing it like that seems legit helpful.

  • @aliceenoshima374
    @aliceenoshima374 Рік тому +8

    13:10 i dare you to brake paper thats been folded several times its bloody impossible lol

    • @JUST-BAD698
      @JUST-BAD698 8 місяців тому

      Brake steel with you hands

  • @pixelatedsmug
    @pixelatedsmug Рік тому +1

    mikey: greetings, pokefans!
    captions: cool readings, book events!

  • @exillered7931
    @exillered7931 Рік тому +1

    Congrats on 2 million subs, Mikey! 🥳

  • @KestrelDC
    @KestrelDC Рік тому +6

    I guess for Murkrow and Blastoise, it being *special* attack is probably the main reason for this, since Murkrow is a black magic bird thing and special stats are often associated with magic and spiritual aspects of the Pokémon, but still….

  • @Naro_Rivers
    @Naro_Rivers Рік тому +53

    The Speed stat isn't movement speed, it's attack/action speed and possibly maneuverability. This is reflected in the German translation, in which the Speed stat is called Initiative. High movement speed doesn't help much in combat if you can't quickly start, stop, or change direction.

    • @majungasaurusaaaa
      @majungasaurusaaaa 10 місяців тому +5

      Being agile is just that. What why Agility boosts "speed".

    • @c.d.dailey8013
      @c.d.dailey8013 8 місяців тому +3

      Wow. Initiative. That reminds of Dungeons and Dragons. Characters get the stat called dexterity. Then at the beginning of each battle, players figure out initiative. That is the order characters go in while taking turns. Each character rolls a twenty sided dice and adds their dexterity. Then the turn order goes from the highest number to lowest number. It is like speed in Pokemon except more elaborate. Dexterity is used for a lot of stuff in Dungeons and Dragons, as do the other stats. However boosting initiative stands out as the most prominent use. It can benefit all players regardless of class. Some classes do have high dexterity though, such as rogue and ranger.

    • @marcobelli6856
      @marcobelli6856 Місяць тому

      Than it makes sense for genesect for example that in plane mode can only go fast in long distances. But other seem to have low speed but by lore high reflexes so it’s still seem random numbers sometimes

  • @dylankoch1757
    @dylankoch1757 Рік тому +2

    For Celesteela's low speed compared to how it's described in its Dex entry, I think of it like this: if a rocket ship gained sentience, it wouldn't be able to move in any direction required for battling very quickly except straight up (in which case it is, you know, a rocket ship)(and before anyone says "well what about when it uses Fly?" a rocket doesn't take off instantaneously once ignition starts))
    As a matter of fact, that second bit probably also applies to other Pokemon with low speed stats compared to their Dex entries (ae: Galarian Zapdos being able to run 180 mph but has a base speed of 100. Accelerating to that speed in a battle scenario (for anything that isn't a space virus) would be very hard for something of that size. This is why I like to think of Pokemon's speed stats as Dexterity stats (as in Dungeons & Dragons Dexterity)

  • @anthonytaliaferro6115
    @anthonytaliaferro6115 Рік тому

    Congratulations on 2m bro u deserve it

  • @Toaster139
    @Toaster139 Рік тому +10

    Ay! Congrats on 2mil man! You definitely deserve it, you’re one of my favourite Pokétubers!

  • @stephenwehe5944
    @stephenwehe5944 Рік тому +5

    Congrats on 2M, Mikey!
    My thoughts on Onix are that RBY wanted to stay true to the iconic Pokémon that the gym leaders were associated with (mostly) and couldn't think of a better way to let Brock have his Onix in the first gym than to make it that weak. I'm not excusing their poor decision-making, but it was a thought I had for a possible explanation.

  • @austria-hungary7680
    @austria-hungary7680 Рік тому

    Congrats on 2.01M subs!

  • @Jupupcup
    @Jupupcup Рік тому

    Love ur vids keep it up

  • @jan-seli
    @jan-seli Рік тому +37

    I don't think "speed" is meant to model something top speed, but rather a combination acceleration, agility, and reaction time among other things in that general umbrella. That doesn't excuse all of your examples but it does for a handful of them

    • @Abhishek-ue6tj
      @Abhishek-ue6tj Рік тому +4

      Yea like escavelier makes sense cause its a bulky armoured bug holding two spears.. try doing that .. itll lower ur reaction time significantly

    • @Siu2444
      @Siu2444 Рік тому

      Then also, miltank having higher sod then rayquaza.. diglett having more sod than zekrom, reshiram and giratina

    • @megarayquaza2240
      @megarayquaza2240 Рік тому +4

      Definitely, it also explains Vikavolt, as railguns take time to charge up before firing. Travel speed does not equal fighting speed

    • @davidharshman7645
      @davidharshman7645 Рік тому +5

      @@Siu2444 I can accept Diglett's speed stat...that is literally its point...it is a whack-a-mole.

    • @thePersonoyt
      @thePersonoyt Рік тому

      Like FIFA

  • @lary6420
    @lary6420 Рік тому +5

    Grats on the 2 Mil subs! This is the Pokemon channel I consistently watch throughout the course of a year cause the content here is always amazing. You definitely deserve the sub count and hopefully it continues to grow (^_^)

  • @GMSryBut
    @GMSryBut 9 місяців тому +1

    To the Speed-Stat.
    I never thought of it meaning the "literal" speed they could reach.
    In my native language, the speed stat is called "initiative" which fits more in the sense of not meaning the literal travel speed but instead the ability to attack first.

  • @Davidrip797
    @Davidrip797 Рік тому +1

    Is this hamster the flash had me dead 😂

  • @faeril2389
    @faeril2389 Рік тому +2

    Congrats on 2M subs man🎉🎉🎉 You seriously deserve it.