Ironically, the one game the Repeat Ball would be most useful in, Pokémon Legends Arceus, doesn't have it. It's the one game where catching several of the same species is actually part of the story.
@@45TRANSFORMERSFANI mean to be fair catching in legends is already not too hard. But I think the main reason we didn’t get one was then wanting to stick to the basic balls as well as the new utility ones
‘The Heal Ball is spectacularly terrible!’ - MandJTV, 2024 (immediate flashbacks to 11-year-old me playing Pokémon White who wasted a Master Ball on a Bouffalant & used a Heal Ball to catch freaking Zekrom)
I remember first getting it, and thought, "Why would I ever use this, I could just go to the pokemon center to heal the pokemon I caught, use a regular pokeball, and not have it stuck in that goofy looking thing!"
@@patrickzalatoris3206 Nah, fam, this ball came in clutch for me because I had a bad habit of refusing to go to a Pokémon center unless I absolutely had to, so I didn't want to have to worry about a freshly caught Pokémon being low on health if it was added to my starting team instead of being sent to the box where the health is fully restored regardless.
When trying to capture the extra Miraidon, he was jumping out of every ball. I didn't wanna use my master on it, so in frustration I was like, "I see you want a ball that matches your aesthetic a bit, HERE!" and I threw a heal ball. He stayed. I absolutely BURST out laughing that of all the balls I used, that was the one he wanted. I named him Morondon for that xD
To bat for the Lure Ball, I mostly agree, but you did make the point that its easiest to get in Johto. In GSC Johto, the Net and Dive balls did not exist, so the Lure Ball has an actual use case.
A nice update to the Loveball would be that it works on pokemon that have compatible egg groups with your own pokemon. It wouldn't work on most legendaries, but carrying around a Ditto in your party would actually be cracked.
I had just thought that the Love Ball could do the same as the Dream Ball, but with Charm status. Perhaps have both, if it's either part of the same egg group, it gets a 4x modifier, and if the target is charmed, it gets an additional 4x modifier, making it a 8x if you charm a same egg group pokemon. It would not be 'as good' against the genderless pokemon, but it would work against 90% of the dex with proper work.
@@TheFoxInABox That's... because Attract only works on opposite gender pokemon. A factor the Love Ball already takes into account for its catch multiplier. So ironically all that's changing is that it's a compatible egg group instead of being the same pokemon.
Well not really, ditto is it's own egg group, but hey, field egg group pokemon would be good, also since pokemon can have 2 egg groups, it can be 2x if it's one of the egg groups 4x if its both egg groups
I play the rom hack Emerald Rogue quitr a lot and, repeat ball is consistently one of the most useful balls out there, especially as you play the game more. Incidentally, the heal ball can also be quite nice since you may not have access to full healing for some time and not have enough resources in your bag, and you can only use the six pokemon you have with you - when you have a full team, you have to release a pokemon for the new one.
You bring up aesthetics in this video a lot, and it got me thinking: I'm surprised there hasn't been some sort of ball customization in the games yet. Something like a shop service in game to alter the appearance of your pokeballs, either to give yourself a signature set, or to aesthetically fit whatever you've caught in them. I remember in a previous generation - I think 4? - we could put visual effects on our pokeballs, yet we still cant just customize the look of the ball?
yea idk if that feature got added in later gens after 6 but there should at least had been an option to replace the regular pokeball with any pokeball except masterball
It would have to be very limited in scope such as choosing from preselected styling then customising colours and effects as there is a design philosophy called TTP or time till p*nis, if you give somebody the option to draw or design eventually that is what gets drawn.
YESYESYESYESYES A MILLION TIMES YES!!! We should have reskins for pokeballs. It would probably have to be customizeable via choosing options bc of various concerns of what could be put on it but it would still be amazing!!!
Wasn't that in BDSP? I distinctly remember someone talking about custom visual effects when a pokemon is sent out. I guess that's not the same as styling the ball itself, but it is fun customization.
My brother caught Yvaltal in a dive ball. It been a running joke, every time I encounter a legendary, I’ll use dive balls as a last resort, and they typically work!
I also once caught a Groudon with a Pokeball. Wouldn't go in any of the others but liked the basic Pokeball. Which is insane on its own but when you realise the color combo works, made it extra cool.
You know how I’d rework the Heal and Love Balls? The Heal Ball would get an increased catch modifier if the target has a status condition for it to heal, and the Love Ball would work on any Pokemon with a compatible Egg Group to your active Pokemon.
The Heal Ball could work here. It'd kinda override the Dream Ball, but it could still work. The Love Ball, though, that'd require people to actually know the egg groups. And personally, I just throw a Ditto at whatever pokemon I'm trying to breed and call it a day
@@CrimpyPlate We could lower Heal Ball's catch rate to x3 or x3,5 or/and increase Dream Ball's catch rate to x5 or even x6. As of Love Ball... is it really a problem to go to Bulbapedia and check if they are in the same Egg Group? It's not that much work.
Heal ball becoming more effective the less hp and more status conditions a pokemon has active would be pretty cool, but given that's basically what everyone does to catch pokemon, lower hp and sleep or paralysis, it would be hard to balance to make it not an auto use, but still worth using over other balls.
@@CrimpyPlate the changed Love Ball would be goo exactly because it would get people to learn the egg groups. We learned type matchups just fine, so why not egg groups as well.
7:29 Michael: "Trying to catch an early route pokemon with a level ball is like trying to kill a bug with a bazooka." Me: *_"I use buckshot, but you do you."_*
It's handy in romhacks that put the starters on a route somewhere. They tend to have an abnormally low catch rate, so a good Ball for them is actually kinda nice.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 DON"T FORGET THE BLOODY BELDUMS! (Sorry for capslocking, those Beldums with a catch rate of 3 and can kill themselves really drive me up the wall)
I figured the reasoning behind the Dive Ball rating was because of his tragic past with Dive Balls in trying to fish & catch Shiny Primal Kyogre against John in their "First To Catch A Shiny With Every PokeBall Wins" video
You ever seen a shiny luxray in one of those? They *were* made for them. On a more serious note, during one of my playthroughs of scarlet, I found the luxury ball out by the klawf titan area and encountered a full odds shiny shinx right after and managed to catch him in that lol. And this was the very beginning of that run too, I was very pleased.
@@Alexs23743Also you don't need to specifically buy them in batches of 10 anymore - they just give you the amount of premier balls corresponding to the amount you bought - so if you buy 20 balls, they'll give you two premier balls.
the Repeat Ball is also useful when trying to catch a Pokemon you want to use for battling but the first one you caught had a wrong nature (e.g. Adamant on a mostly special attacker, Modest on a mostly physical attacker, etc)
Proposed change to the Level Ball. The higher the enemy Pokémon’s level in comparison to your Pokémon, the higher the catch rate. Essentially, the opposite of how it actually works.
I remember intentionally refusing to use Beast Balls on Ultra Beasts because I wanted to challenge myself... and respect the characteristics of the Ultra Beasts themselves.
Idea on how to buff the Love Ball: Reduce the catch rate from 8x to 6x Change the requirements of getting the boost from same species and opposite gender to any Pokémon in the same egg group as your active mon.
@@addison_v_ertisement1678 Making it usable at all would be a huge buff. It could have a x16 catch rate, no one is going to use it due to the incredibly niche conditions that its catch rate would apply. Otherwise its just a normal pokeball but pink. So yeah x6 is still very high and egg group makes the amount of catchable pokemon skyrocket.
Fun fact: I was sure the Masterball applied a multiplier so high it skyrocketed the catch chance over the cap of 1 but... no, they went for the smart solution of bypassing the formula entirely 😊
I can only imagine that if it did work that way in gen 1 we could have easily had a 1 in 256 style glitch for the master ball, and that would be just such a kick in the teeth whenever it happened
I don't think that's the case: In the first 2 generations, the games use an algorithm (if, else, alongside some calculations) instead of a formula in gen 3+. This means that the first check is whenever the ball being used is a master ball as other balls acts differently. When making the formula for gen 3, they probably kept this check since it is the easiest way of doing it.
@@skeleman5883The thing is, for coding reasons, it does have a multiplier associated to it (a very high one, but not infinite), which is the misconception came from. But yeah, it has always just bypassed the formula.
I remember catching Raikou in a Gen2 Fast Ball, which would only have boosted odds with three select species, none of which were Raikou. Probably one of the luckiest catches that I've made.
@@Pokochi6699Wonky in Gen 2. Because of a coding error, it only works on 3 pokemon (Grimer, Tangela and Magnemite). It completely ignores all other Pokemon it should have a boosted catch rate against
@@Pokochi6699 It was wonky in Gen2. It was intended to be good against all Pokemon that could flee, but due to a glitch, it was only effective on Magnemite, Grimer, and Tangela. (It was supposed to check three tables, Pokémon that have a 10% flee rate, those that have a 50% flee rate, and those that always flee. It only checked the 10%.)
10:00 Though the Lure Ball was broken in Scarlet/Violet at launch, the bug was fixed at some point between versions 1.1.0 and 3.0.0 so it now has a 4x multiplier on Pokémon directly in the water.
Repeat Ball is also a major thing for competitive and going for things like rarer abilities... Also, Love Ball has other effects, or at least used to have it where the pokemon's starting friendship/love level which is useful for some of the pokemon that evolve with it
What makes the repeat ball the superior option over the level ball? If it's the post game then your party is going to be a way higher level than whatever you find in the wild meaning most likely a higher catch rate.
@@Alternate_astro ok but level ball will get the buff as well. Also there are certain rare pokemon that you might have missed the first time. Level ball still works while repeat ball doesn't.
@@petelee2477 OP did say "for competitive and going for rarer abilities", which if you're doing that then you've already completed the dex so you're not worrying about missing rare Pokemon. And Level Balls are WAY harder to get than Repeat Balls outside the Johto games. If we use current day competitive as an example, in ScarVio you only get ONE from dex milestones, after that they're locked behind DLC, and you still can't get them easily because they're only in the Item Printer Pokeball Lotto which on it's own can take a few attempts to trigger. So if you want enough Level Balls to catch a lot of Pokemon you'll burn through BP just trying to trigger it, but Repeat Balls you can just buy from the shop and money/LP are easier to grind (especially LP if you just interact with Tera Dens every day). Considering its difficulty to obtain, Level Balls are basically only good for aesthetic and saving them for a Pokemon you want to catch them in, especially if you don't have access to the DLC to get more. Also the video mentions that the Level Ball won't have its maximum boost for late game Pokemon since they're so close in level to your own even at 100, so if you're shiny hunting or trying to find high level competitive Pokemon and you don't care what ball it's in, you might as well use a Repeat Ball or other Pokeballs instead of wasting your one (or few) Level Balls. (Sorry for the long comment, I tried to trim it down as much as I could while still keeping the main points.)
@@petelee2477 Repeat ball is available in most games. Level ball is not. Also a lot cheaper and level ball only matches repeat ball if your level 100 is fighting a level 50
As for heal ball in scarlet & violet works decently here as Pokémon DO NOT get healed when they get sent to a box, heck even when you trade them they’re still just as injured as when you’ve caught it.
the heal ball description makes it sound WAY better than it actually is (i thought it healed pokemon after every battle CAUSE IT NEVER SPESIFIED i thought the heal ball was like equally good as an ultra ball until now cause it is missleading)
I thought the Heal Ball healed the Pokemon used to capture the other. Like if I have Party Pokemon out with near 0 PPs and Low HP while trying to catch Specific Pokemon, the Heal Ball would heal my Party Pokemon after a successful catch on something that I don't have yet but wasn't looking for. Like a quick Full Restore+ Max Elixir for those long stretches of searching
@@thefirstguyjaek255 actually I was incorrect. Heavy modifies the catch rate itself directly by addition and subtraction, so for Pokémon like Gastly and Haunter, which, despite their low weights, have catch rates of 190 and 90, meaning that a thrown Heavy Ball will, yes, be *worse* than a Poké Ball, only get hit by a -20 modifier, meaning it becomes the same as throwing a regular Poké Ball at something with a catch rate of 170 or 70 - not incredibly difficult, but not *great* by any means. The issue comes when you have a Pokémon with a catch rate below 20 that also isn't particularly heavy - the Tapus and Beldum specifically - which cause the catch rate to go negative and thus be set to a default value - 0 in SM and 1 in all other games. In SM, as the catch rate is set to 0, the ball will *always* fail on those four Pokémon, while in other games it just fails three times as much as an ordinary Poké Ball.
I believe Pokemon Clover has this issue with the Cheap Ball on Clovenix and Adesign. Their catch rate is 1 (the lowest catch rate in standard pokemon is 3), and the Cheap Ball has a catch rate of 0.5, compared to the Pokeball's 1x. Thus pushing tbe final catch rate below 1. I don't know the formula, maybe it's still possible though. You're definitely supposed to just masterball them, since Adesign has only 5pp total, and Clovenix regenerates like a damn troll, and you get two.
what I find funny the reason that the moon ball was glitched in gen 2 is because they put the wrong item ID in so it will check if the Pokémon is by burn heal instead of moon stone.
when I was younger and playing through HeartGold, I caught Entei with a Love Ball. The same happened in Pokémon Shield, while catching a male Lapras in a Raid Battle, and I was using a male Toxicitry. Those funny instances made it become my favourite Pokéball!
A good thing with healballs would be for nuzlockes, it heals the pokemon just caught if one of your pokemon faints during the run through a large area. The ability to swap out a dead pokemon to the box and bring in a fully healed new pokemon, even as fodder, is an amazing ability
@@MK_mon The Pokémon Company stated that they didn't have an issue with normal Nuzlockes. They had an issue with people doing Nuzlockes randomizers, but it was the randomizers/modified ROMs they were objecting to.
@@shockthetoast I mean that's what the pokemon company said after nintendo released the statement to cover themselves up after they got heavily trolled for either not realizing nuzlockes aren't necessarily randomizers or questioning something as stupid as a fan made rule that doesn't cause harm in any way and either way what I said that for was that nintendo and game freak apparently consider nuzlockes to be gory and hence they would never like to promote it
@@MK_mon Nintendo never released any statement. It was only mentioned in a podcast by some former Nintendo employees who used to do the Nintendo Minute videos. What they said was that TPC was upset when they brought up the idea of doing a Nuzlocke in an official Nintendo video. It was never about fans doing this, but only in an official promo video. And it's because one or more people at TPC didn't understand that Nuzlockes didn't require using a hacked ROM and they didn't want to a hacked ROM promoted in an *official* video. Yes, the person at TPC was wrong, but for all we know it was a random PR person or a lawyer who was trying to keep the company out of trouble. (Promoting hacked ROMs is a terrible idea for a game company, as they open themselves up to a lawsuit if someone gets a virus when downloading from the wrong place, half the video would have to be disclaimers lol.) The only statement ever officially made is that they're okay with it.
I think it’d be fun if the games introduced a mechanic where you can switch what kind of Poké ball your Pokémon is in after you catch them. That way, you can have whatever aesthetic on the ball you want.
Heal ball: Don't worry! I'm gonna heal your newly caught pokemon friend so it's ready to party with the rest of your team! Every player in existence: It's not that deep fam..
The heal ball made me imagine a game that outright forces it's use case. "Pokemon Heal Ball Only" a post apocalypse version where poke centers and healing items are virtually all gone, and pokemon don't heal up in the box. Maybe a pokemon rouge like.
Something that makes the apicorn balls even worse, is that the modifier isn't on the total catch rate, but on the pokémon catch rate. Meaning that if the pokémon has already the maximum catch rate already (of 255), using a apicorn ball or a regular pokéball is the same. That's why apicorn ball boosts are so outrageous.
Another case for the Repeat Ball, in OR/AS when hunting for Hidden Abilities, considering that the DexNav works better if you've already caught said species, which means it works in that situation. Also the Net Ball is apparently even better than the Dive Ball and can apply to pretty much ANY Pokémon, apparently using the move Soak to turn it into a Water Type is enough to get the boosted catch rate.
I hope they add a feature where you can change the design of the pokeball after you catch a pokemon with it, like for example catching a clefa with a quick ball but then changing it to a more fitting ball like a love ball
@miikaroos3809 that wouldn't change the difficulty. The difficult part of catching the pokemon is over, so there's no harm as long as this feature is balanced right.
I think a cool buff for the Heal Ball would be to give it a fantastic catch-rate, maybe 4x, or even 4.5x, but only if the target is weakened and/or statused, and if it fails, it will instantly heal the target back to full. High-risk, high-reward kinda deal
Does it heal back the pp too? Even then, it kinda becomes: Used struggle three times so it faints on struggle 4? Chuck a heal ball! Either it gets caught or it allows more struggle attempts.
I swear to god, the reason they made Necrozma's catchrate 255 (the highest it can be) in Ultra Sun and Moon is so people could use the Beast Ball on it
I remember the "missed the Pokemon" mechanic in Gen 1, which was just Gen 1's version of capturing the Pokemon and it immediately breaking out, which is extremely common on hard-to-catch Pokemon like the Legendaries.
I hated this so much... I experienced this with the legendary birds and you had to inflict them with some sort of status to make the ball even reach it.
The only case I could see the love ball being practical is ensuring a catch on pokemon with specific gender evolutions (ie. Combee, Salandit, Snorunt, Ralts). But even then, the difficulty with such mons is their encounter rates, not so much the difficulty of the catch itself.
@@castironpan7967 I kept a male Salandit on hand just so I could use a Love Ball when I ever found a shiny female Salandit. I swapped that male out for a shiny male when I found it first before a shiny female. I've even got a screenshot of the two shinies in battle staring at each other like Romeo and Juliet. lol
What you actually want is a Cute Charm pokemon in your lead slot, since Cute Charm fixes your encounters to be the opposite gender if possible. Most Cute Charm pokemon have female trending gender ratios... meaning you can use one of them to fish for a male, then use the male to fish for combee or salandit
I actually tried to use the Beast Ball to catch the other Miraidon because I thought it would look cool on it, but I gave up after 3 months of trying. In the end I used it with Terapagos and I really feel like it fits him perfectly.☺
@@SassySceptile Yeah, I also ended up using the Master Ball because of that, I mean, since Mewtwo there hasn't been a legendary that better suited the aesthetics of that pokeball. I just wanted to be more original, even if I only ended up wasting time.
The apricorn pokeballs are sooo specific sometimes it's hilarious 😂 I will say that I actually used a love ball when I found a shiny female mudkip in SV
Really ALL of the apricorn balls, except maybe friend, should have been on here. For being one of the defining features of the johto games they are absolutely worthless outside of aesthetics. Heavy is an easy pick for the absolute worst just for being hard to obtain and absolutely worthless for 99% of players whether casual or otherwise, this on top of black being one of the rarer apricorns to even find.
A fire type that’s constantly on fire until you use the burn heal, at which point it is an extinguished version. Another grass/fire type, resembling a campfire?
it was a coding error, not intentional. I think the developers forgot to change the ID for the Moon Stone because they assigned the ID for Burn Heal in Gen 2 which is the same ID for Moon Stone in Gen 1
Unrelated, but the Timer Ball is genuinely underrated. I actually found it to be really helpful with catching hard to get Pokemon like Munchlax on a GBA ROM hack that I've been addicted to recently (Sword and Shield Ultimate GBA)
This list brings up a good point about balls: They're super cool looking, but almost completely screw people over if they're going for aesthetics but the balls don't work against what ball the catcher thinks matches the mon. Basically, GameFREAK needs to add a ball swapping function.
@@hondaaccord1399 We can already change almost everything about our Pokémon these days, so let's not overdo it. I don't want to be able to swap their Balls after capture, because it would take all the fun out of it. Hell, I fear that some day we might actually be able to change their genders or turn regular Pokémon into shinies.
@@hondaaccord1399well, at that point, how can you tell who went through the effort to use a good looking ball on a Pokémon? Plus, it would mean that you'd never use the Luxury Ball in battle, because you can just swap it, making it's give-and-take function just a straight upgrade.
This video finally taught me how each modifier actually works after I spent decades catching merely based on color coordination and not caring the slightest bit about efficiency
The heal ball actually came in really useful for me once. I was playing PokéMMO with two of my mates and we had a rule where we couldn't spend any money. All Pokéballs we used had been scrounged from bins, the floor or given to us directly by NPCs. We were at the desert route in Unova, and I had two or three Pokémon all of which were very low on health or had fainted, and I knew that the chances of me escaping every wild encounter on my way back to the Pokémon centre were very low, and I would most likely have lost regardless of whether I tried to run from every wild encounter or whether I tried to fight the rivals on the way to the next city. I also didn't have any revives or potions so healing on my own was out of the question. I decided to try and catch a Pokémon using a heal ball, since I had enough health to battle one Pokémon and if I could catch it first try, I would survive and have an insurance Pokémon. I ended up doing so with a Darumaka or a Sandile, both of which became valuable members of my team, and helped me to survive that route
I only care if it's a shiny 😅 If there isn't one that matches colour scheme, it has to go in a premier ball or a luxury ball 😂 But obv that's just me so you do you ^-^
I will never forget when i was playing Omega Ruby (i was a big noob at the time), and i manage to get to fight Groudon, i threw 2 Ultra balls, didnt work, the for no reason i threw a Dive Ball, and he decided to stay on it, the ground pokemon with fire moves, fire aesthetic, red colour decided to stay on the "water poke ball"
I do wish the Beast Ball had the same catch rate as a Pokéball when you’re using it on a regular Pokémon. It still wouldn’t be great, but a lot better than the 1/10 catch rate it has now.
The heal ball was eye opening, back when I was younger I used it for everything, especially legendaries since until today I thought that it got boosted catch rates on unhealthy Pokémon (low HP + status) so I’d always paralyze and then get a legendary low and throw heal balls which usually caught it very fast. But now that I know that all it does is heal, I guess I was lucky
Against many of the Legendaries, you probably were just very lucky. But that would be an interesting way to change the Heal Ball's function too. It would make it a cool contrast to the Quick Ball. (Quick Ball only works right at the start of an encounter; your changed Heal Ball would only work after a lot of effort to weaken the target)
I mean Low HP + status (especially Sleep or Freeze) IS a universal boost to catch rate, so even if you got there a weird way, what you were doing was correct
I still remember the joy i had capturing necrozma on moon with a beast ball without reloading the game, best moments of my pokemon play throughs by far
The Love Ball should have had an 8x catch rate for any Pokémon in the same egg group as your active Pokemon. It wouldn’t have made it great, but it would at least be usable.
@@fadhilmulyono9230 I agree that's how the Love Ball should work, but that kind of catch rate would be a bit OPed at that point. Lowering the catch rate a bit to x5 or x6 would work better for that.
A quick mention with the heal ball I wanna say, if you are deep in a dungeon and wanna use that pokemon, most players have an abundance of potions so unless the person doesnt want to waste a potion then that makes the heal ball even more useless.
I was going to say that usually special balls like these aren't available early enough to really take advantage of that... but apparently the nest ball is one of the few that is. With the unfortunate exceptions of FRLG and HGSS (imagine having something that benefits from low levels in the post game, god), it's generally accessible by the third gym, which isn't too bad. Heck, it's available in Alola right before you can encounter that underleveled salamence!
Easy fixes for #2 and #1 to make them useful: #2: Make the Heal Ball heal pokemon you have while you walk. Such as 1 HP for every 10 steps. Sure, it's not super useful, but if your whole team are caught with Heal Balls then you've got a team of pokemon that are a lot harder to wear down while in dungeons. #1: Straight up make the Love Ball so that any pokemon of the opposite gender as the pokemon you have out more easily catchable, whether it's the pokemon of the same species or not. Probably would have to lower the catch rate boost, but that would make Love Balls much much more useful.
fun fact: the heavy ball is the only pokeball that (in a certain context) can never work at catching a pokemon. due to a glitch in sun and moon specifically, the heavy ball will always fair to catch a pokemon whose weight is less than 100 kgs and whose catch rate is equal to or less than 20. this means that is was impossible to catch beldum and the guardian deities in heavy balls.
This is not due to a glitch, but due to the weird way Heavy Ball works... Unlike other balls, Heavy Ball does not have a multiplier. Instead, it adds a flat number to the catch rate, and whatever that value is depends on the Pokemon's weight. Pokemon weighing less than 220 lb/100 kg actually had a - 20 add-on, making Pokemon with an already low catch rate (like Beldum, which is JUST under that weight limit) have a negative catch rate, thus being completely impossible to capture with a Heavy Ball.
13:19 Actually the Moon Ball is even worse. Since it works ONLY on Pokémon that evolves via Moon Stone. So it would only work for Nidorino, Nidorina, Clefairy, Jigglypuff, Skitty and Munna. For their (pre-) evolutions it would be just a regular Poké Ball.
Munna can only have the boosted catch rate in Sw/Sh, while Skitty can only have the boosted catch rate in BD/SP. This is because these two Pokemon are not obtainable in any other games where the Apricorn Balls are available
Not an actual regular viewer but seeing the shots from the past and now well done bro! You had an amazing glow up! Not that there was anything wrong with before of course, but rather if you've been working on stuff (and growing out a beard) great job bro! It looks great on you!
Master ball isn't the best pokeball. It's VERY rare and that's why it's not as useful. Any other pokeball, like timerballs and such can be far more useful and versatile than the masterball.
@@blesskurunai9213 I mean it is by definition the best Pokeball. I know he would probably take into account the rarity, but I think it should be the default best.
I kinda love the 1x Pokéballs like the Heal Ball, just because it gives me more options for Aesthetics, because I like to challenge myself with the base Catch Rate, and so the Beast Ball being the worst for common Pokémons sounds to be up my alley even if it's not pleasing to look at.
I like the Heal Ball for early gameplay where you don't have a full team. Getting back to a Poké Center is harder because you don't have Fly yet, building a team with becomes much easier. Later on, you can just use them because they're aesthetically pleasing, but they were originally intended for early game usage in BW/B2W2 as they were gifted to you after you beat the second Gym I believe?
And in Diamond/Pearl, where they were introduced, you could buy them at Jublife City, the third town and not enough Pokemon by then to fill out a team. But yeah, they're absolutely intended for the early game.
I've done it in Legends Arceus (I figured it would help me keep track of my progress towards catching every pokémon for the post game anyways, especially since it let me view more pokémon at one time than the pokédex, and it gave me a goal so I could play the game more while not feeling at a loss for what to do) and Violet (it was the first time I had someone to trade with and I kinda wanted the experience of owning a shiny charm for once in my life, so again a good way to track my progress), but I'm not sure I'll be doing it again in future games (depends how accessible completing one will be and how much I want an excuse to play the game more).
@user-nh3of6cp1i Same! I had one for Sword/Shield too, but had moved them all from Sword to Shield via Home, and then forgot they were there and deleted that save file. 😬
A buff I would recommend for the heal ball would be it applies a 10% heal buff after every battle, as long as the Pokemon has not fainted. Could be balanced better, but you get the idea.
Repeat ball has been useful when doing the objectives in the DLC. If it says "catch a water type" I just go over to one I already caught and use it. Not much more useful than before, but it is something
4:02 it’s also useful for if you want to get more of a pokemon that you already have registered more easily. It’s saved me tons of time trying to catch multiple espurr, eevee, and many more.
Ironically, the one game the Repeat Ball would be most useful in, Pokémon Legends Arceus, doesn't have it. It's the one game where catching several of the same species is actually part of the story.
Which is understandable. The game would have been so much easier (and probably more boring) if the Repeat Ball was added
@@45TRANSFORMERSFAN They could have unlocked it at the end of the game.
@@45TRANSFORMERSFANI mean to be fair catching in legends is already not too hard. But I think the main reason we didn’t get one was then wanting to stick to the basic balls as well as the new utility ones
I’ve used more Repeat Balls than ever in the Blueberry Academy for the challenges tbh
Legends Arkoos*
‘The Heal Ball is spectacularly terrible!’ - MandJTV, 2024 (immediate flashbacks to 11-year-old me playing Pokémon White who wasted a Master Ball on a Bouffalant & used a Heal Ball to catch freaking Zekrom)
I remember first getting it, and thought, "Why would I ever use this, I could just go to the pokemon center to heal the pokemon I caught, use a regular pokeball, and not have it stuck in that goofy looking thing!"
To be fair, Reshiram and Zekrom are extremely easy to catch in BW.
We have all wasted our MB on a none legendary Pokémon when we were kids
@@patrickzalatoris3206 but the pink looks nice soooo
@@patrickzalatoris3206
Nah, fam, this ball came in clutch for me because I had a bad habit of refusing to go to a Pokémon center unless I absolutely had to, so I didn't want to have to worry about a freshly caught Pokémon being low on health if it was added to my starting team instead of being sent to the box where the health is fully restored regardless.
When trying to capture the extra Miraidon, he was jumping out of every ball. I didn't wanna use my master on it, so in frustration I was like, "I see you want a ball that matches your aesthetic a bit, HERE!" and I threw a heal ball. He stayed. I absolutely BURST out laughing that of all the balls I used, that was the one he wanted. I named him Morondon for that xD
I love the nickname 😂😂😂
koraidon or Miraidon? Because Koraidon fits the warm tones of the healball imo
MORONDON AAHAHAHSJDODINW. But also the Master Ball does fit Miraidon's aesthetic
@@tydshiin5783 Miraidon. They flat out said it in the first sentence XD
A well fitting nickname perhaps.
To bat for the Lure Ball, I mostly agree, but you did make the point that its easiest to get in Johto. In GSC Johto, the Net and Dive balls did not exist, so the Lure Ball has an actual use case.
A nice update to the Loveball would be that it works on pokemon that have compatible egg groups with your own pokemon. It wouldn't work on most legendaries, but carrying around a Ditto in your party would actually be cracked.
OMG YES
I had just thought that the Love Ball could do the same as the Dream Ball, but with Charm status.
Perhaps have both, if it's either part of the same egg group, it gets a 4x modifier, and if the target is charmed, it gets an additional 4x modifier, making it a 8x if you charm a same egg group pokemon. It would not be 'as good' against the genderless pokemon, but it would work against 90% of the dex with proper work.
@@SkyEcho751 Love it! Attract is underused anyway!
@@TheFoxInABox That's... because Attract only works on opposite gender pokemon. A factor the Love Ball already takes into account for its catch multiplier. So ironically all that's changing is that it's a compatible egg group instead of being the same pokemon.
Well not really, ditto is it's own egg group, but hey, field egg group pokemon would be good, also since pokemon can have 2 egg groups, it can be
2x if it's one of the egg groups
4x if its both egg groups
I had this weird dream where grunty boi our beloved was replaced by a gnome. I don’t feel safe.
HAHAHA IM GNOMEY BOI!!!!
I had a dream where grunty boi was a gym leader and was a *gulp* bird type gym leader
I am so sorry for your loss 😔
i cant stop thinking about grunty boy as a gnome reading the sponsor with a high pitched voice 💀
By chance do you live in gimmelhtump drusselstump
I think the “L” on the Level Ball is a downward arrow to represent the Pokémon’s low level.
could also be the V in leVel
You could be onto something
@@ARandomEliatrope it could also be an e in lEvEl but they messed it up really bad
It also does not look like the "レ re" Katakana either.
I always thought it was a V, but I like your idea better.
“Repeat Ball is not worth the money”
Competitive Players: “Say that again. I dare you.”
Shiny hunters, what was that punk
I play the rom hack Emerald Rogue quitr a lot and, repeat ball is consistently one of the most useful balls out there, especially as you play the game more.
Incidentally, the heal ball can also be quite nice since you may not have access to full healing for some time and not have enough resources in your bag, and you can only use the six pokemon you have with you - when you have a full team, you have to release a pokemon for the new one.
Don't comp players usually go with breeding?
@@CoralCopperHead breeding take a lot of tIme usually you breed rare pokemon. Catch common pokemon
You bring up aesthetics in this video a lot, and it got me thinking: I'm surprised there hasn't been some sort of ball customization in the games yet. Something like a shop service in game to alter the appearance of your pokeballs, either to give yourself a signature set, or to aesthetically fit whatever you've caught in them. I remember in a previous generation - I think 4? - we could put visual effects on our pokeballs, yet we still cant just customize the look of the ball?
yea idk if that feature got added in later gens after 6 but there should at least had been an option to replace the regular pokeball with any pokeball except masterball
It would have to be very limited in scope such as choosing from preselected styling then customising colours and effects as there is a design philosophy called TTP or time till p*nis, if you give somebody the option to draw or design eventually that is what gets drawn.
YESYESYESYESYES A MILLION TIMES YES!!! We should have reskins for pokeballs. It would probably have to be customizeable via choosing options bc of various concerns of what could be put on it but it would still be amazing!!!
Wasn't that in BDSP? I distinctly remember someone talking about custom visual effects when a pokemon is sent out.
I guess that's not the same as styling the ball itself, but it is fun customization.
@@volblaThe Ball Stickers/Capsule Sticker things are in BDSP because they were in Diamond and Pearl and BDSP are essentially just HD Diamond and Pearl
11:35 "as tenth of a good" Funniest thing I've heard in a while
“you heard that correctly” 💀
Not the funniest thing I have heard recently, I have been dying watching some guy that I won't name drop.
When the blooper is so funny you leave it in the final cut
Top 10 moments 2024?
Decimated
My brother caught Yvaltal in a dive ball. It been a running joke, every time I encounter a legendary, I’ll use dive balls as a last resort, and they typically work!
I used a dive ball on chi yu on the same occasion except I did it as a quick ball replacement
I once caught G Moltres in a dive ball.
i caught xerneas with 1 quick ball on the first time in pokemon x 🤭🤭
Dive ball Regirock. All I had left was dive balls
I also once caught a Groudon with a Pokeball. Wouldn't go in any of the others but liked the basic Pokeball. Which is insane on its own but when you realise the color combo works, made it extra cool.
You know how I’d rework the Heal and Love Balls?
The Heal Ball would get an increased catch modifier if the target has a status condition for it to heal, and the Love Ball would work on any Pokemon with a compatible Egg Group to your active Pokemon.
The Heal Ball could work here. It'd kinda override the Dream Ball, but it could still work. The Love Ball, though, that'd require people to actually know the egg groups. And personally, I just throw a Ditto at whatever pokemon I'm trying to breed and call it a day
Another option for the Love Ball should be for it to work better on pokemon under the Infatuated condition which was also introduced in Gen 2.
@@CrimpyPlate We could lower Heal Ball's catch rate to x3 or x3,5 or/and increase Dream Ball's catch rate to x5 or even x6.
As of Love Ball... is it really a problem to go to Bulbapedia and check if they are in the same Egg Group? It's not that much work.
Heal ball becoming more effective the less hp and more status conditions a pokemon has active would be pretty cool, but given that's basically what everyone does to catch pokemon, lower hp and sleep or paralysis, it would be hard to balance to make it not an auto use, but still worth using over other balls.
@@CrimpyPlate the changed Love Ball would be goo exactly because it would get people to learn the egg groups.
We learned type matchups just fine, so why not egg groups as well.
7:29
Michael: "Trying to catch an early route pokemon with a level ball is like trying to kill a bug with a bazooka."
Me: *_"I use buckshot, but you do you."_*
Both are good. Source: the Ministry of Truth. Now go spread some Managed Democracy!
Me meanwhile giving a bazooka to a kid to kill cockroaches in Earthbound (the kid also repaired the Bazooka)
Well, hey, the Bug-A-Salt sold well for a reason
It's handy in romhacks that put the starters on a route somewhere.
They tend to have an abnormally low catch rate, so a good Ball for them is actually kinda nice.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 DON"T FORGET THE BLOODY BELDUMS!
(Sorry for capslocking, those Beldums with a catch rate of 3 and can kill themselves really drive me up the wall)
I figured the reasoning behind the Dive Ball rating was because of his tragic past with Dive Balls in trying to fish & catch Shiny Primal Kyogre against John in their "First To Catch A Shiny With Every PokeBall Wins" video
Fun fact: I used to read "Luxury ball" as "Luxray ball" and wondered for the longest tine why they made a ball for Luxray specifically- 💀
You ever seen a shiny luxray in one of those? They *were* made for them.
On a more serious note, during one of my playthroughs of scarlet, I found the luxury ball out by the klawf titan area and encountered a full odds shiny shinx right after and managed to catch him in that lol. And this was the very beginning of that run too, I was very pleased.
@@kyradreamer4769guess it really IS the "Luxray" ball.
Fancy balls
I thought I same thing when I was getting used to Pokemon
If any pokemon deserves its own pokeball, it’s Luxray.
17:49 The bug that implies every pokemon in Gen 2 is gay is my new favorite bug in any video game ever.
Well Attract still only works on opposite genders so this would mean every Pokemon were bisexual
SAME!
new player: "why should I buy ten pokeballs to get a premier ball, just get a great ball"
old players: "Just do it"
MUST HAVE A MULTIPLE OF TEN
At this point it's just instinctual to buy in sets of 10, not even something I have to actively think about
Isn't the new player glad that since Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee, they can now buy 10 of ANY ball to get a Premier Ball? ^^
@@Alexs23743Also you don't need to specifically buy them in batches of 10 anymore - they just give you the amount of premier balls corresponding to the amount you bought - so if you buy 20 balls, they'll give you two premier balls.
EFFICIENCY!!!
The best use that I’ve seen for a love ball is people putting a ring into an irl replica of it and using it to propose to their partner
Now that is a genius idea
same species, gender matches the target gender... it's 8x more likely to be effective. that's literally how it works lol
Now thats a genius idea
Now that is a genius idea
Now that is a genius idea
the Repeat Ball is also useful when trying to catch a Pokemon you want to use for battling but the first one you caught had a wrong nature (e.g. Adamant on a mostly special attacker, Modest on a mostly physical attacker, etc)
It is also great when you want to complete the unown dex
Or if you want to catch a legendary you already transferred from another game
Or shiny hunting a pokemon
use a mint!
@@boredbird_certain nature related berries don't work with mints iirc, which is only relevant for competitive strats
Proposed change to the Level Ball. The higher the enemy Pokémon’s level in comparison to your Pokémon, the higher the catch rate. Essentially, the opposite of how it actually works.
Players with lvl 1 magicarp:- Let him cook 🔥🔥🔥
@@lordrj4203 precisely, but then your level 1 magikarp gets one shot if it fails and you need to account for that
@@sillyking1991 my level 20 Shedinja vs the level 70 Kyogre be like
@ lol, fair. but thats more of a "shedninja has a super exploitable ability" problem, more than its a problem with the overall idea.
I remember intentionally refusing to use Beast Balls on Ultra Beasts because I wanted to challenge myself... and respect the characteristics of the Ultra Beasts themselves.
I used a beast ball on a shiny trevenent.
Idea on how to buff the Love Ball:
Reduce the catch rate from 8x to 6x
Change the requirements of getting the boost from same species and opposite gender to any Pokémon in the same egg group as your active mon.
"Idea on how to buff it"
*immediately nerfs it*
@@addison_v_ertisement1678 Making it usable at all would be a huge buff. It could have a x16 catch rate, no one is going to use it due to the incredibly niche conditions that its catch rate would apply. Otherwise its just a normal pokeball but pink. So yeah x6 is still very high and egg group makes the amount of catchable pokemon skyrocket.
FINALLY
THE LOVE BALL IS NO LONGER HOMOPHOBIC
Very good
how would it work with ditto
The best will always be the quick ball bc it’s Mikey’s channel colors and it’s easy to get the battle over with
🎉:D
Indeed
I’ve never had a quick ball work. To me it kinda sucks. Timer ball is way better. U can actually reduce the hp and give them a status condition.
@@davidstratton696that is understandable, however there’s always a chance of a stray crit fainting a shiny Pokémon.
And nobody wants that
@@Dawg347laughs in false swipe
Now that I think of it, I caught a Lapras with a Beast Ball in Sword and Shield. Wow, I must've been really lucky.
nah lapras is an ultra beast now
Fun fact: I was sure the Masterball applied a multiplier so high it skyrocketed the catch chance over the cap of 1 but... no, they went for the smart solution of bypassing the formula entirely 😊
I can only imagine that if it did work that way in gen 1 we could have easily had a 1 in 256 style glitch for the master ball, and that would be just such a kick in the teeth whenever it happened
From what I recall it used to work like that but nowadays, yeah it just bypasses the check.
I don't think that's the case:
In the first 2 generations, the games use an algorithm (if, else, alongside some calculations) instead of a formula in gen 3+.
This means that the first check is whenever the ball being used is a master ball as other balls acts differently.
When making the formula for gen 3, they probably kept this check since it is the easiest way of doing it.
@s0lsticefr4 Okay, I double checked, it never could fail, but used to be a common misconception that it could in certain generations
@@skeleman5883The thing is, for coding reasons, it does have a multiplier associated to it (a very high one, but not infinite), which is the misconception came from. But yeah, it has always just bypassed the formula.
I remember catching Raikou in a Gen2 Fast Ball, which would only have boosted odds with three select species, none of which were Raikou.
Probably one of the luckiest catches that I've made.
Doesn't that ball work on fleeing pokemon ? or was it just wonky in gen 2 ?
My luckiest catch is a ditto in a beast ball.
(I was a child and didn’t know anything about pokéballs)
@@Pokochi6699Wonky in Gen 2. Because of a coding error, it only works on 3 pokemon (Grimer, Tangela and Magnemite). It completely ignores all other Pokemon it should have a boosted catch rate against
@@Pokochi6699 It was wonky in Gen2. It was intended to be good against all Pokemon that could flee, but due to a glitch, it was only effective on Magnemite, Grimer, and Tangela. (It was supposed to check three tables, Pokémon that have a 10% flee rate, those that have a 50% flee rate, and those that always flee. It only checked the 10%.)
@@Pokochi6699it is supposed to but a glitch changes the pokemon it works on
10:00 Though the Lure Ball was broken in Scarlet/Violet at launch, the bug was fixed at some point between versions 1.1.0 and 3.0.0 so it now has a 4x multiplier on Pokémon directly in the water.
Has there _ever_ been a game where all of the apricorn balls worked as intended the entire life of the game?
@@aromanticfranziskavonkarmaNope! Maybe gen 10
@@aromanticfranziskavonkarma USUM
Repeat Ball is also a major thing for competitive and going for things like rarer abilities...
Also, Love Ball has other effects, or at least used to have it where the pokemon's starting friendship/love level which is useful for some of the pokemon that evolve with it
What makes the repeat ball the superior option over the level ball? If it's the post game then your party is going to be a way higher level than whatever you find in the wild meaning most likely a higher catch rate.
@@petelee2477 because if you are post game you most likely completed the pokedex so any pokemon you catch will have the buff
@@Alternate_astro ok but level ball will get the buff as well. Also there are certain rare pokemon that you might have missed the first time. Level ball still works while repeat ball doesn't.
@@petelee2477 OP did say "for competitive and going for rarer abilities", which if you're doing that then you've already completed the dex so you're not worrying about missing rare Pokemon. And Level Balls are WAY harder to get than Repeat Balls outside the Johto games. If we use current day competitive as an example, in ScarVio you only get ONE from dex milestones, after that they're locked behind DLC, and you still can't get them easily because they're only in the Item Printer Pokeball Lotto which on it's own can take a few attempts to trigger. So if you want enough Level Balls to catch a lot of Pokemon you'll burn through BP just trying to trigger it, but Repeat Balls you can just buy from the shop and money/LP are easier to grind (especially LP if you just interact with Tera Dens every day). Considering its difficulty to obtain, Level Balls are basically only good for aesthetic and saving them for a Pokemon you want to catch them in, especially if you don't have access to the DLC to get more. Also the video mentions that the Level Ball won't have its maximum boost for late game Pokemon since they're so close in level to your own even at 100, so if you're shiny hunting or trying to find high level competitive Pokemon and you don't care what ball it's in, you might as well use a Repeat Ball or other Pokeballs instead of wasting your one (or few) Level Balls.
(Sorry for the long comment, I tried to trim it down as much as I could while still keeping the main points.)
@@petelee2477 Repeat ball is available in most games. Level ball is not. Also a lot cheaper and level ball only matches repeat ball if your level 100 is fighting a level 50
As for heal ball in scarlet & violet works decently here as Pokémon DO NOT get healed when they get sent to a box, heck even when you trade them they’re still just as injured as when you’ve caught it.
everytime you heal at the pokémon center it heals your party *and* your pc boxes
They didn't heal in the box in sword and shield either I think
This applies to every Pokémon game released on the Switch that have Heal Balls and can access the boxes anywhere
Even then, the PC is right next to Nurse Joy
@@DrRank No, its even better. In SV, you dont go to a pc to access your boxes. Its right there in the menu.
the heal ball description makes it sound WAY better than it actually is (i thought it healed pokemon after every battle CAUSE IT NEVER SPESIFIED i thought the heal ball was like equally good as an ultra ball until now cause it is missleading)
I think that one is on you, not the description.
Yeah I think you simply read the description wrong.
I always thought it just healed the pokemon after catching it. Which is why I never used it because I could just heal in pokemon center.
I thought the Heal Ball healed the Pokemon used to capture the other. Like if I have Party Pokemon out with near 0 PPs and Low HP while trying to catch Specific Pokemon, the Heal Ball would heal my Party Pokemon after a successful catch on something that I don't have yet but wasn't looking for. Like a quick Full Restore+ Max Elixir for those long stretches of searching
@@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702that would be a much cooler use than it currently is.
Fun Pokeball fact: The Heavy Ball is completely useless on Gastly and Haunter. The modifiers make it impossible catch them.
Only in SM. In GSC, HGSS, USUM, and onward, the floor is 1, so while it becomes *really freakin' hard* to do, it's possible.
In Scarlet and Violet I guess you could throw a heavy ball at one of them in a Terra Raid lol
@@thefirstguyjaek255 actually I was incorrect. Heavy modifies the catch rate itself directly by addition and subtraction, so for Pokémon like Gastly and Haunter, which, despite their low weights, have catch rates of 190 and 90, meaning that a thrown Heavy Ball will, yes, be *worse* than a Poké Ball, only get hit by a -20 modifier, meaning it becomes the same as throwing a regular Poké Ball at something with a catch rate of 170 or 70 - not incredibly difficult, but not *great* by any means. The issue comes when you have a Pokémon with a catch rate below 20 that also isn't particularly heavy - the Tapus and Beldum specifically - which cause the catch rate to go negative and thus be set to a default value - 0 in SM and 1 in all other games. In SM, as the catch rate is set to 0, the ball will *always* fail on those four Pokémon, while in other games it just fails three times as much as an ordinary Poké Ball.
Well, that makes sense given how light they are
I believe Pokemon Clover has this issue with the Cheap Ball on Clovenix and Adesign.
Their catch rate is 1 (the lowest catch rate in standard pokemon is 3), and the Cheap Ball has a catch rate of 0.5, compared to the Pokeball's 1x. Thus pushing tbe final catch rate below 1. I don't know the formula, maybe it's still possible though.
You're definitely supposed to just masterball them, since Adesign has only 5pp total, and Clovenix regenerates like a damn troll, and you get two.
what I find funny the reason that the moon ball was glitched in gen 2 is because they put the wrong item ID in so it will check if the Pokémon is by burn heal instead of moon stone.
when I was younger and playing through HeartGold, I caught Entei with a Love Ball. The same happened in Pokémon Shield, while catching a male Lapras in a Raid Battle, and I was using a male Toxicitry. Those funny instances made it become my favourite Pokéball!
A good thing with healballs would be for nuzlockes, it heals the pokemon just caught if one of your pokemon faints during the run through a large area. The ability to swap out a dead pokemon to the box and bring in a fully healed new pokemon, even as fodder, is an amazing ability
but the fact that nintendo doesn't like nuzlockes to be happening kinda nullifies it on their side
@@MK_mon The Pokémon Company stated that they didn't have an issue with normal Nuzlockes. They had an issue with people doing Nuzlockes randomizers, but it was the randomizers/modified ROMs they were objecting to.
@@shockthetoast I mean that's what the pokemon company said after nintendo released the statement to cover themselves up after they got heavily trolled for either not realizing nuzlockes aren't necessarily randomizers or questioning something as stupid as a fan made rule that doesn't cause harm in any way and either way what I said that for was that nintendo and game freak apparently consider nuzlockes to be gory and hence they would never like to promote it
@@MK_mon Nintendo never released any statement. It was only mentioned in a podcast by some former Nintendo employees who used to do the Nintendo Minute videos. What they said was that TPC was upset when they brought up the idea of doing a Nuzlocke in an official Nintendo video. It was never about fans doing this, but only in an official promo video. And it's because one or more people at TPC didn't understand that Nuzlockes didn't require using a hacked ROM and they didn't want to a hacked ROM promoted in an *official* video. Yes, the person at TPC was wrong, but for all we know it was a random PR person or a lawyer who was trying to keep the company out of trouble. (Promoting hacked ROMs is a terrible idea for a game company, as they open themselves up to a lawsuit if someone gets a virus when downloading from the wrong place, half the video would have to be disclaimers lol.) The only statement ever officially made is that they're okay with it.
I think it’d be fun if the games introduced a mechanic where you can switch what kind of Poké ball your Pokémon is in after you catch them.
That way, you can have whatever aesthetic on the ball you want.
I hope they don’t do that so my decades of suffering to catch pokemon in thematic but ultimately worthless pokeballs doesn’t go to waste.
As long as it doesn't allow it on master balls then it should be fine
Some rom hacks do this and it is nice sometimes
@@error9778imagine not wanting something nice but ultimately pointless just because you want others to suffer like you have.
@@error9778 Agreed. The games are easy enough already.
Heal ball: Don't worry! I'm gonna heal your newly caught pokemon friend so it's ready to party with the rest of your team!
Every player in existence: It's not that deep fam..
"as tenth of a good" literally had me crying of laughter 😂😂😂
I love it when Mike gets so mad he loses his grip on the English language.
No "Greetings Pokéfans"
Something doesn't feel right...
The heal ball made me imagine a game that outright forces it's use case. "Pokemon Heal Ball Only" a post apocalypse version where poke centers and healing items are virtually all gone, and pokemon don't heal up in the box. Maybe a pokemon rouge like.
that could make for a fun nuzlocke
Ironically, pokerogue doesnt have love balls
it'd be great for like..a rogue-like type of pokemon game where healing is harder. ofc it'd need to be on the rarer or more expensive side for that.
Something that makes the apicorn balls even worse, is that the modifier isn't on the total catch rate, but on the pokémon catch rate. Meaning that if the pokémon has already the maximum catch rate already (of 255), using a apicorn ball or a regular pokéball is the same. That's why apicorn ball boosts are so outrageous.
I can’t tell you how happy I was to hear you use the phrase, “could not care less” correctly in the intro, thank you lol
T'was cathartic.
Another case for the Repeat Ball, in OR/AS when hunting for Hidden Abilities, considering that the DexNav works better if you've already caught said species, which means it works in that situation.
Also the Net Ball is apparently even better than the Dive Ball and can apply to pretty much ANY Pokémon, apparently using the move Soak to turn it into a Water Type is enough to get the boosted catch rate.
Ain't no way soak works......
Wow, just wow.
Soak coming in clutch
I haven't crossed my mind that it take into consideration type changes during the battle.
@@TaLeng2023honestly, I had assumed that it wouldn't work. I'm still stunned to hear that it does.
Who has soak alr?
I hope they add a feature where you can change the design of the pokeball after you catch a pokemon with it, like for example catching a clefa with a quick ball but then changing it to a more fitting ball like a love ball
Nah. Let's leave at least some challenge in modern games.
How it that a challah @@miikaroos3809
That only challenges those who want specific pokemon in specific pokebals. Otherwise, it's entirely useless. @@miikaroos3809
It’s crazy because Coromon (a surprisingly good Pokémon like game) already has this feature
@miikaroos3809 that wouldn't change the difficulty. The difficult part of catching the pokemon is over, so there's no harm as long as this feature is balanced right.
The funny thing about the nest ball is that I've used it to catch Rayquaza in oras(because the color scheme matches)
I think a cool buff for the Heal Ball would be to give it a fantastic catch-rate, maybe 4x, or even 4.5x, but only if the target is weakened and/or statused, and if it fails, it will instantly heal the target back to full. High-risk, high-reward kinda deal
Does it heal back the pp too? Even then, it kinda becomes: Used struggle three times so it faints on struggle 4? Chuck a heal ball! Either it gets caught or it allows more struggle attempts.
@@AlicornGaia Even then, that'd be real nice to have. There's very few feelings worse than losing an encounter because it struggled itself to death
Yeah, I had basically the same idea where it increases the impact that health and status effects have on the catch rate equation.
Mikey: Bugs don't tend to be on the water...
Surskit: Am I a joke to y-
Mikey: YES.
Isn't surskit also water?
@@Clover_In_A_Fieldit do be like that sometimes
Dewpider
Wimpod
I think Net Ball stacks on them to where it has 100% catch rate no matter what.
@@metayoshi1712 aren't both of those also water types?
@@metayoshi1712 If it doesn't, it SHOULD.
I swear to god, the reason they made Necrozma's catchrate 255 (the highest it can be) in Ultra Sun and Moon is so people could use the Beast Ball on it
Why would they?
@@addison_v_ertisement1678 Because Necrozma is kind of an Ultra Beast but not really, so a lot of people might want to catch in a Beast Ball
"And this one only works before noon and after early morning, the Brunch Ball!"
"Wow... I'll need 50 of them!"
-Pokemon Rusty version
I will never not hear “Gotta catch the mall,” like you’re in need of last-minute Christmas gifts.
I remember the "missed the Pokemon" mechanic in Gen 1, which was just Gen 1's version of capturing the Pokemon and it immediately breaking out, which is extremely common on hard-to-catch Pokemon like the Legendaries.
I hated this so much... I experienced this with the legendary birds and you had to inflict them with some sort of status to make the ball even reach it.
The only case I could see the love ball being practical is ensuring a catch on pokemon with specific gender evolutions (ie. Combee, Salandit, Snorunt, Ralts). But even then, the difficulty with such mons is their encounter rates, not so much the difficulty of the catch itself.
Shiny Salazzle in a love ball sounds epic to be fair
@@castironpan7967 YES! lol
Eevee. If you start with a female Eevee, you have a seven in eight chance of having the opposite gender show up.
@@castironpan7967 I kept a male Salandit on hand just so I could use a Love Ball when I ever found a shiny female Salandit. I swapped that male out for a shiny male when I found it first before a shiny female. I've even got a screenshot of the two shinies in battle staring at each other like Romeo and Juliet. lol
What you actually want is a Cute Charm pokemon in your lead slot, since Cute Charm fixes your encounters to be the opposite gender if possible.
Most Cute Charm pokemon have female trending gender ratios... meaning you can use one of them to fish for a male, then use the male to fish for combee or salandit
Me spending hours trying to catch ultra beasts with ultra balls hearing this now
I actually tried to use the Beast Ball to catch the other Miraidon because I thought it would look cool on it, but I gave up after 3 months of trying. In the end I used it with Terapagos and I really feel like it fits him perfectly.☺
used the Masterball on miraidon just because the colours fit with it perfectly. 😅😂
Beast ball definitely suits terapagos. Many ppl i saw playing the indigo disk decided to use the beast ball for it.
@@SassySceptile Yeah, I also ended up using the Master Ball because of that, I mean, since Mewtwo there hasn't been a legendary that better suited the aesthetics of that pokeball.
I just wanted to be more original, even if I only ended up wasting time.
@@SassySceptile I remember I used a Dream Ball for my Terrapagos
As a nod to the common Paradox mon theory
The apricorn pokeballs are sooo specific sometimes it's hilarious 😂 I will say that I actually used a love ball when I found a shiny female mudkip in SV
I liked using these special apricorn balls in SV for 7* raids since capture is guaranteed. Makes it feel special
Really ALL of the apricorn balls, except maybe friend, should have been on here. For being one of the defining features of the johto games they are absolutely worthless outside of aesthetics. Heavy is an easy pick for the absolute worst just for being hard to obtain and absolutely worthless for 99% of players whether casual or otherwise, this on top of black being one of the rarer apricorns to even find.
I used the Friend Ball for Ogerpon. 😊
They should introduce a Pokémon that evolves with a Burn Heal, just as an Easter egg for those who know.
A fire type that’s constantly on fire until you use the burn heal, at which point it is an extinguished version.
Another grass/fire type, resembling a campfire?
It would be funny, not gonna happen
@@Midnight-hz3epAbility: Forest Fire
-Inflicts Burning status effect whenever this Pokémon is in play.
it was a coding error, not intentional. I think the developers forgot to change the ID for the Moon Stone because they assigned the ID for Burn Heal in Gen 2 which is the same ID for Moon Stone in Gen 1
@@fadhilmulyono9230 yep, but I think it would be cool if they referenced that coding error in a fun way that only the big fans would get. ☺️
Unrelated, but the Timer Ball is genuinely underrated. I actually found it to be really helpful with catching hard to get Pokemon like Munchlax on a GBA ROM hack that I've been addicted to recently (Sword and Shield Ultimate GBA)
This list brings up a good point about balls: They're super cool looking, but almost completely screw people over if they're going for aesthetics but the balls don't work against what ball the catcher thinks matches the mon.
Basically, GameFREAK needs to add a ball swapping function.
No, they don't. The games are too easy already. Leave at least a little challenge in them.
@@miikaroos3809
What are you talking about?
@@hondaaccord1399 We can already change almost everything about our Pokémon these days, so let's not overdo it. I don't want to be able to swap their Balls after capture, because it would take all the fun out of it. Hell, I fear that some day we might actually be able to change their genders or turn regular Pokémon into shinies.
@@miikaroos3809
okay, but what takes the fun away from the people who want to do all that work the hard way? Like. Seriously, what makes it bad?
@@hondaaccord1399well, at that point, how can you tell who went through the effort to use a good looking ball on a Pokémon?
Plus, it would mean that you'd never use the Luxury Ball in battle, because you can just swap it, making it's give-and-take function just a straight upgrade.
Mikey thrash talking fictional balls is so captivating
This video finally taught me how each modifier actually works after I spent decades catching merely based on color coordination and not caring the slightest bit about efficiency
2:37 it works 4x with dewpider or araquanid
The heal ball actually came in really useful for me once. I was playing PokéMMO with two of my mates and we had a rule where we couldn't spend any money. All Pokéballs we used had been scrounged from bins, the floor or given to us directly by NPCs. We were at the desert route in Unova, and I had two or three Pokémon all of which were very low on health or had fainted, and I knew that the chances of me escaping every wild encounter on my way back to the Pokémon centre were very low, and I would most likely have lost regardless of whether I tried to run from every wild encounter or whether I tried to fight the rivals on the way to the next city. I also didn't have any revives or potions so healing on my own was out of the question. I decided to try and catch a Pokémon using a heal ball, since I had enough health to battle one Pokémon and if I could catch it first try, I would survive and have an insurance Pokémon. I ended up doing so with a Darumaka or a Sandile, both of which became valuable members of my team, and helped me to survive that route
0:16 Hey, that's me. Always thought people cared WAY too much about which pokemon goes in each ball
I only care if it's a shiny 😅 If there isn't one that matches colour scheme, it has to go in a premier ball or a luxury ball 😂 But obv that's just me so you do you ^-^
Amen bro
Same I prefer the normal pokeball 😂
99% of the time it's gotta be a premier ball for me.
Me too. All I care about is catching the pokemon.
Mikey knows his balls very well 💀
Edit: OMG THIS IS THE FASTEST IVE EVER GOTTEN LIKES.
Very true
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LMAO
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He wishes he knew drowzees
I will never forget when i was playing Omega Ruby (i was a big noob at the time), and i manage to get to fight Groudon, i threw 2 Ultra balls, didnt work, the for no reason i threw a Dive Ball, and he decided to stay on it, the ground pokemon with fire moves, fire aesthetic, red colour decided to stay on the "water poke ball"
The Heal Ball, is only good in challenge when you play without heal, except the few mandatory ones.
Or nuzlockes.
The Heal Ball is good in dungeons in old games. Better than Pokeball.
I do wish the Beast Ball had the same catch rate as a Pokéball when you’re using it on a regular Pokémon. It still wouldn’t be great, but a lot better than the 1/10 catch rate it has now.
The heal ball was eye opening, back when I was younger I used it for everything, especially legendaries since until today I thought that it got boosted catch rates on unhealthy Pokémon (low HP + status) so I’d always paralyze and then get a legendary low and throw heal balls which usually caught it very fast. But now that I know that all it does is heal, I guess I was lucky
Against many of the Legendaries, you probably were just very lucky. But that would be an interesting way to change the Heal Ball's function too. It would make it a cool contrast to the Quick Ball. (Quick Ball only works right at the start of an encounter; your changed Heal Ball would only work after a lot of effort to weaken the target)
I mean
Low HP + status (especially Sleep or Freeze) IS a universal boost to catch rate, so even if you got there a weird way, what you were doing was correct
I still remember the joy i had capturing necrozma on moon with a beast ball without reloading the game, best moments of my pokemon play throughs by far
I love watching this guy talking about his opinion, especially ever since he said spheal is the best ice type
Snom left the chat
uhhh, Spheal is the best Ice type... He is just a rolypoly happy boi, and he is indeed the best ice type
Snom can be the best bug types instead.@@kevindarcy4000
@@itsssnek810 EXACTLY!!!
@@kevindarcy4000 Snom is a close 3rd
The Love Ball should have had an 8x catch rate for any Pokémon in the same egg group as your active Pokemon. It wouldn’t have made it great, but it would at least be usable.
for me, it should be 8x catch rate for any Pokemon of the opposite gender from your active Pokemon
Ditto being in every egg group:
@@fadhilmulyono9230 I agree that's how the Love Ball should work, but that kind of catch rate would be a bit OPed at that point. Lowering the catch rate a bit to x5 or x6 would work better for that.
I remember catching an Azelf with a repeat ball because i thought it was the same pokemon as Uxie, which i had previously caught.
You also forgot that when a pokemon is added to one of your pc boxes, it automatically heals, making the heal ball even more useless
Me, petting my shiny Umbreon that I went out of my way for to catch in a Moonball: "...I see your arguments and have elected to ignore them."
I refreshed until Zacian stayed in that single Moon Ball I got from ball guy lmao
It's generally my favorite ball, so pretty!
A quick mention with the heal ball I wanna say, if you are deep in a dungeon and wanna use that pokemon, most players have an abundance of potions so unless the person doesnt want to waste a potion then that makes the heal ball even more useless.
The nest and level balls have one niche use that rare occasion when illegal level Pokémon exists like the Salamance you could find in the alola games
I was going to say that usually special balls like these aren't available early enough to really take advantage of that... but apparently the nest ball is one of the few that is. With the unfortunate exceptions of FRLG and HGSS (imagine having something that benefits from low levels in the post game, god), it's generally accessible by the third gym, which isn't too bad. Heck, it's available in Alola right before you can encounter that underleveled salamence!
@@deepseamuse Alola also has the highly annoying wild Beldums with 3% catch rate...
@@איתןשי You are giving Beldum too much credit. While it has a catch rate of 3, that is out of 255. This means it has a catch rate of 1.6%, not 3%.
@@twobladedswordsandmauls2120 true LOL - the comment was written at 2 AM and I was very sleepy
Easy fixes for #2 and #1 to make them useful:
#2: Make the Heal Ball heal pokemon you have while you walk. Such as 1 HP for every 10 steps. Sure, it's not super useful, but if your whole team are caught with Heal Balls then you've got a team of pokemon that are a lot harder to wear down while in dungeons.
#1: Straight up make the Love Ball so that any pokemon of the opposite gender as the pokemon you have out more easily catchable, whether it's the pokemon of the same species or not. Probably would have to lower the catch rate boost, but that would make Love Balls much much more useful.
This reminds me of the old MandJTV videos. I love it.
fun fact: the heavy ball is the only pokeball that (in a certain context) can never work at catching a pokemon.
due to a glitch in sun and moon specifically, the heavy ball will always fair to catch a pokemon whose weight is less than 100 kgs and whose catch rate is equal to or less than 20. this means that is was impossible to catch beldum and the guardian deities in heavy balls.
This is not due to a glitch, but due to the weird way Heavy Ball works...
Unlike other balls, Heavy Ball does not have a multiplier. Instead, it adds a flat number to the catch rate, and whatever that value is depends on the Pokemon's weight. Pokemon weighing less than 220 lb/100 kg actually had a - 20 add-on, making Pokemon with an already low catch rate (like Beldum, which is JUST under that weight limit) have a negative catch rate, thus being completely impossible to capture with a Heavy Ball.
@@insulttothehumanrace3807All other games cap the catch chance's lower bounds to 1 rather than 0, which is why it is often seen as a bug.
13:19 Actually the Moon Ball is even worse. Since it works ONLY on Pokémon that evolves via Moon Stone. So it would only work for Nidorino, Nidorina, Clefairy, Jigglypuff, Skitty and Munna. For their (pre-) evolutions it would be just a regular Poké Ball.
Munna can only have the boosted catch rate in Sw/Sh, while Skitty can only have the boosted catch rate in BD/SP. This is because these two Pokemon are not obtainable in any other games where the Apricorn Balls are available
It is a super pretty ball though! It can be useless all it wants with that design going for it
i caught a wandering steelix with a moon ball in my shield save
Not an actual regular viewer but seeing the shots from the past and now well done bro! You had an amazing glow up! Not that there was anything wrong with before of course, but rather if you've been working on stuff (and growing out a beard) great job bro! It looks great on you!
7:30 Blastoise was like “want to repeat that”
I love how *ominous* you sounded when you said "how pretty it is, doesn't MATTER here." XD
I hope we get a sequel to this video, where you talk about the best Pokeballs. Calling it now, the top 3 are Dusk, Quick, and Master.
Master ball isn't the best pokeball. It's VERY rare and that's why it's not as useful. Any other pokeball, like timerballs and such can be far more useful and versatile than the masterball.
@@blesskurunai9213 I mean it is by definition the best Pokeball. I know he would probably take into account the rarity, but I think it should be the default best.
I accidentally wasted my ball on a legendary when playing gen 4 when I was a kid.
Then I saw Mespirit.
I kinda love the 1x Pokéballs like the Heal Ball, just because it gives me more options for Aesthetics, because I like to challenge myself with the base Catch Rate, and so the Beast Ball being the worst for common Pokémons sounds to be up my alley even if it's not pleasing to look at.
Lol, I love that last-minute edit from "Broll" to "B-roll" at 17:05 XD
I like the Heal Ball for early gameplay where you don't have a full team. Getting back to a Poké Center is harder because you don't have Fly yet, building a team with becomes much easier. Later on, you can just use them because they're aesthetically pleasing, but they were originally intended for early game usage in BW/B2W2 as they were gifted to you after you beat the second Gym I believe?
And in Diamond/Pearl, where they were introduced, you could buy them at Jublife City, the third town and not enough Pokemon by then to fill out a team.
But yeah, they're absolutely intended for the early game.
@@insulttothehumanrace3807 Yep. It makes traveling easier because you don't have to visit a Pokémon Center every single time you catch a new Pokémon.
Or you could just use potions
@@Caleb-hl9qo When you start the game, you're pretty broke. I am not wasting my money on potions when I only have one or two other Pokémon.
I love hearing a grown man talk about balls.
"Why pay more for something that's just virtually a PokeBall" cause it's beautiful, Mikey!! Justice for the Heal Ball! ❤
Repeat balls are useful when your trying to get a living dex, but who's insane enough to do that?
I happen to be subscribed to another Poketuber who's done that...TWICE.
I've done it in Legends Arceus (I figured it would help me keep track of my progress towards catching every pokémon for the post game anyways, especially since it let me view more pokémon at one time than the pokédex, and it gave me a goal so I could play the game more while not feeling at a loss for what to do) and Violet (it was the first time I had someone to trade with and I kinda wanted the experience of owning a shiny charm for once in my life, so again a good way to track my progress), but I'm not sure I'll be doing it again in future games (depends how accessible completing one will be and how much I want an excuse to play the game more).
I'm working on a full SV living dex including dlc - finished paldea and kitakami, nearly done in blueberry academy
@user-nh3of6cp1i Same!
I had one for Sword/Shield too, but had moved them all from Sword to Shield via Home, and then forgot they were there and deleted that save file. 😬
@@Echo-J2 oof! Did you complete it including dlc?
MandJTV: Heal ball is second to worse pokéball.
Me: *proceeds to catch Pokémon with a heal ball*
A buff I would recommend for the heal ball would be it applies a 10% heal buff after every battle, as long as the Pokemon has not fainted.
Could be balanced better, but you get the idea.
I had a similar idea where it healed status conditions after each battle, which I feel would be more reasonable.
I find the Repeat Ball to be super useful for trying to get Blueberry Points, but that’s just in one game.
Repeat ball has been useful when doing the objectives in the DLC. If it says "catch a water type" I just go over to one I already caught and use it. Not much more useful than before, but it is something
It's great when catching spares for trades or IV hunting too. It definitely has its uses... but it's still very much a niche ball.
I just Quick Ball everything. It is so repetitive that I would lose my mind if I had to actually weaken them every time.
Luxury balls costs 3000 pokedollars, which is pretty expensive but very much worth it
Shoutout to the Repeat Ball in Pokemon Sun and Moon helping to catch Ultra Beasts
Using a Repeat Ball to catch an Ultra Beast has a catch rate of 0.1×.
4:02 it’s also useful for if you want to get more of a pokemon that you already have registered more easily. It’s saved me tons of time trying to catch multiple espurr, eevee, and many more.
Bro pulled a My Hero Academia with the “All Pokeballs are not made equal.”
"It's not a challenge you can get better at, you're just making yourself less lucky!"
So every single challenge in Pokemon
I wonder if it would be too OP to have the Heal Ball restore a captured Pokémon's HP after every battle?
I would rather the Heal Ball be OP than to be almost completely useless to the point of almost being the worst Poke Ball ever made.