"Tremendous Abuse Of Tax Payers' Money" Isabel Oakeshott Blasts Muslim Student's High Court Loss

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  • A Muslim student at a London school has lost a High Court challenge against its ban on prayer rituals.
    Michaela School in Wembley was taken to court by the girl over the policy, which she argued was discriminatory.
    The non-faith state secondary school previously told the High Court that allowing prayer rituals risked "undermining inclusion" among pupils.
    The free school's founder and headteacher Katharine Birbalsingh said the ruling was a "victory for all schools."
    In an 83-page written judgement dismissing the student's case, Mr Justice Linden said: "The claimant at the very least impliedly accepted, when she enrolled at the school, that she would be subject to restrictions on her ability to manifest her religion."
    TalkTV's Vanessa Feltz is joined by Isabel Oakeshott, who says it was a “tremendous abuse of tax payers' money.”
    Centre for Education and Youth’s Baz Ramaiah also joins Vanessa to discuss the controversy.
    #school #muslim #highcourt #prayer
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 986

  • @lionheart3735
    @lionheart3735 16 днів тому +365

    Her parents should pay the bill !!!

    • @newcastleboilermaintenance4956
      @newcastleboilermaintenance4956 16 днів тому +36

      I bet Her parents are on benefit. These people are potential danger for society.

    • @tobyrose6906
      @tobyrose6906 10 днів тому +1

      They are excluded them selves.
      Jumping on the Religious Band wagon.......

    • @simmonslesley
      @simmonslesley 10 днів тому +1

      Agree. She should also be invited to leave the school & find something more suitable for her needs.

    • @simmonslesley
      @simmonslesley 10 днів тому +1

      If as Baz says many other schools manage to get it right. Why doesn't this student & any others, go to those schools. Bcoz they'd rather go to the BEST school & then change them. So tired of this crap

    • @scarlettkhan9667
      @scarlettkhan9667 3 дні тому

      Nah let the tax payer 😂

  • @wendycurrie9629
    @wendycurrie9629 16 днів тому +65

    Are we going to spend taxpayers money every time a Muslim wants to attack our way of life? This case is an utter disgrace. Birbalsingh is a great head teacher. If you don’t like the rules, then go and live elsewhere.

  • @geoffwheadon4277
    @geoffwheadon4277 16 днів тому +517

    Stop the appeasement now

    • @mjones4083
      @mjones4083 16 днів тому +31

      Our very existence depends on it , I truly believe it has got to that serious (and terrifying ) stage. I worry for the youngsters in my family : what "troubles" they will face because of our cowardly appeasement .

    • @geoffwheadon4277
      @geoffwheadon4277 16 днів тому +20

      @@mjones4083 hello mate, may it come down to where you live, I consider myself lucky to live in an old pit village and we have not been diluted by this betrayal, some as I feel it is a duty to our community to keep our culture, local history our very heritage, and many are now realising it’s time to do our bit, we remember what our fathers,grandfathers did when the call went out, they did their duty, this is our call, and as men we shall do our duty. Even as a man of 65 I shall not man the barricades, but I will mount theirs. What comes will split families and friends which is a regrettable fact but I never in all my life thought I would live to witness a civil war and I pray I don’t, but none can hide from what we see. Morals and principles are the making of a man and a country. Best regards from County Durham.

    • @Xp1972.
      @Xp1972. 16 днів тому +10

      It's definitely about time too!

    • @user-vs4rp1qc6q
      @user-vs4rp1qc6q 16 днів тому +18

      Why is it always the one faith out of the many that exist that's moaning? Why is it never any of the others?

    • @mjones4083
      @mjones4083 16 днів тому +17

      @@geoffwheadon4277 Yes it does come down to where I live . As a born and bred British citizen who chose to live in central London ( and actually come from old old pit town myself ) I should not be expected to walk among people in London who don't think I should exist because I am white and Christian . & by the way , my old pit town is already being (very ) diluted by this betrayal .It is spreading - quicker than ever and recognises no boundaries . I pity what the young children in my family (and yours ) are going to have to endure - civil war will be a real threat for them .

  • @middleground5084
    @middleground5084 16 днів тому +402

    As she has lost this case, she or her parents should pay the legal costs in full 😮 just like prince Harry 🤔

    • @user-tg5vs1xz5x
      @user-tg5vs1xz5x 16 днів тому +41

      No, both parents are on benefits meaning they pay no rent on a 3bed house, no council tax and they get child benefits .. The court cost from we taxpayers.

    • @Tre11297
      @Tre11297 16 днів тому

      @@user-tg5vs1xz5x would love to see where you got this info from?

    • @MrCarol666
      @MrCarol666 14 днів тому +11

      If so strict muslim parents or islamic prophets.....where incharge of the girl she wouldnt even have an education .yet alone in a normal school life .

    • @user-tg5vs1xz5x
      @user-tg5vs1xz5x 14 днів тому +9

      @@MrCarol666 That's why they come here as life is too hard for them,
      Middle eastern countries have very skewed ideas

    • @louloubrow2171
      @louloubrow2171 12 днів тому +3

      @@MrCarol666 who said so strick Muslim parents?? Clearly not or she’d be at one the many many Muslim schools 🏫

  • @paulmoore120
    @paulmoore120 16 днів тому +377

    Why the hell do we have to pay for this rubbish.If this person had to pay for this out of their own pocket then it wouldn’t have happened.

    • @Xp1972.
      @Xp1972. 16 днів тому +14

      Definitely not!

    • @b.nichols3255
      @b.nichols3255 13 днів тому +7

      But if it never happened then a group of lawyers would need to find a real job.

  • @EIREriddick13
    @EIREriddick13 16 днів тому +386

    That Head Teacher has all my respect.

    • @jamaali2358
      @jamaali2358 16 днів тому +1

      and all it took was to deny children to pray 🤦‍♂️

    • @phenomenal8196
      @phenomenal8196 16 днів тому +29

      @@jamaali2358go pray back home

    • @jamaali2358
      @jamaali2358 16 днів тому

      @phenomenal8196 home and wherever I'll be, thanks for the reminder

    • @phenomenal8196
      @phenomenal8196 16 днів тому

      @@jamaali2358 average Muslim thinking every nation should cater to them 🤡

    • @janet5846
      @janet5846 16 днів тому +18

      ​@jamaali2358 No one has denied anyone their wish to pray, just not at school.... not difficult to understand.

  • @theeightytwentyrule
    @theeightytwentyrule 16 днів тому +383

    150k of OUR money, for someone's private problem. Absolute joke.

    • @garyowen4112
      @garyowen4112 16 днів тому +18

      should be asking how the hell its costs that much for a few days in court

    • @Kumud24944
      @Kumud24944 15 днів тому +21

      Ask them to pay the fees .

    • @hyderally8045
      @hyderally8045 15 днів тому +6

      Your money? 😂

    • @theeightytwentyrule
      @theeightytwentyrule 15 днів тому +3

      @@hyderally8045 No I'm Olly.

    • @EIREriddick13
      @EIREriddick13 15 днів тому +2

      @@garyowen4112 More like one day in court...

  • @paulherlihy9290
    @paulherlihy9290 16 днів тому +31

    I am a Christian and i believe that the school has the right not to allow prayer time if they so wish.
    People have the right to send their children elsewhere.

    • @ProfYaffle
      @ProfYaffle 10 днів тому

      Well, as Christians we respect authority. Moreover our God is available all the time, he hears our thoughts, he understands all languages and even groans.
      If she became a Christian she wouldn't need a prayer room

  • @susanmills4843
    @susanmills4843 16 днів тому +278

    How did the family get legal aid. Most people would not qualify due to earnings.

    • @ady6837
      @ady6837 16 днів тому +52

      Taxpayer money+religion of peace 😢

    • @lionheart3735
      @lionheart3735 16 днів тому +48

      Cause they probs on benefits

    • @4thinternational283
      @4thinternational283 16 днів тому +46

      You can't get legal aid for family cases nowadays, how they managed to get funding for this I don't know.

    • @FAM-5214
      @FAM-5214 16 днів тому +21

      Perhaps their legal representatives will share their justification on the application for legal aid

    • @sbwlearning1372
      @sbwlearning1372 16 днів тому +30

      There will be a team of is lamb ic lawyers more than willing to fight this for nothing other than to insert the faith

  • @stephenholmes1036
    @stephenholmes1036 16 днів тому +527

    If you don't want to send your children there then don't!
    Remember Batley a teacher still in hiding after 3 years due to religious zealots.
    Well done Katherine

    • @willowtree9291
      @willowtree9291 16 днів тому +46

      She makes it clear before they apply that the school is secular.

    • @labouraredangerous
      @labouraredangerous 16 днів тому +50

      It won't be long until they start threatening her too

    • @marymcsoley4071
      @marymcsoley4071 16 днів тому +25

      Exactly

    • @sh.4409
      @sh.4409 16 днів тому +9

      I bet nothing has happened to any of them either!

    • @margaretgreenwood4243
      @margaretgreenwood4243 16 днів тому +20

      Absolutely. Our mayor in Leeds, Tracey Brabin, ignored the plight of this teacher, and is up for reelection. Im going to write ‘Remember Batley’ on my ballot paper

  • @soothsayer1964
    @soothsayer1964 16 днів тому +244

    All the Muslim kids at school in the 80s and 90s never needed this, nor did they ever complain that it was necessary. None of the Muslim guys I worked with in the 90s ever required this, nor did they ever complain that it was necessary.

    • @pommiebears
      @pommiebears 16 днів тому +31

      Right? I had plenty of friends in my group in school that were Muslim, Hindu, etc, and they never complained. They were humble and respectful. Seems like the younger generations are the problem.

    • @You.are.boring.me.now2024
      @You.are.boring.me.now2024 16 днів тому +29

      They were a very small minority back then and inline with the various stages of Jihad were not in a position to impose themselves on others to force concessions, things are changing.

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman 16 днів тому +14

      ​@@You.are.boring.me.now2024the legal aid was in fact jizrah for having the audacity to assert indigenous customs over those of the religion of peace.

    • @nav021298
      @nav021298 16 днів тому +11

      We don't need a dedicated room to pray, any clean place will do, it takes 5 minutes. Why make Muslims a problem in our society?

    • @You.are.boring.me.now2024
      @You.are.boring.me.now2024 16 днів тому +4

      @@AndyJarman
      No doubt that his how the advocacy group behind this claim saw it.

  • @colp9492
    @colp9492 16 днів тому +469

    She should be made to pay back any money as she lost the case. The loser normally pays court fees

    • @MrSnookerballs
      @MrSnookerballs 16 днів тому

      she would have been give legal aid like they all get. immigrants get everything

    • @darussianping61
      @darussianping61 16 днів тому +48

      My thoughts exactly.

    • @peterwright997
      @peterwright997 16 днів тому +22

      Not religion of permanent offence I will bet!

    • @coldbreeze6344
      @coldbreeze6344 16 днів тому +35

      Tax payers will pay it only Brits pay court fees

    • @bethmcnaughton2503
      @bethmcnaughton2503 16 днів тому +13

      Our system needs an overhaul, it’s a total shambles 😡

  • @user-cl7ub8ft6x
    @user-cl7ub8ft6x 16 днів тому +102

    The parents should pay the court costs!
    Disgusting waste if taxpayers money!
    Common sense has prevailed!
    This is a secular school anyway!

  • @spanglestein66
    @spanglestein66 16 днів тому +30

    If they want to pray 5 times a day ….ask your parents to leave the uk for an Islamic country

    • @joycegibbs5267
      @joycegibbs5267 13 днів тому +1

      there’s a political motive behind this IMO !!

  • @Lindy-ht8cr
    @Lindy-ht8cr 16 днів тому +417

    Total waste of MY money. Katherine is more sensible than any of our Cabinet!

  • @sharonseed
    @sharonseed 16 днів тому +10

    This is a total disgrace that this Muslim woman got legal aid of £150,00 of our hardworking British taxpayers money to pay for a prayer room in this school. Britain is a Christian country, if you don't like it you know what to do! 🇬🇧 🇬🇧

  • @hillbillymal9351
    @hillbillymal9351 16 днів тому +30

    Finally someone standing up and not caving into the muslim/Islamic takeover

    • @joycegibbs5267
      @joycegibbs5267 13 днів тому +2

      I’m astonished she won. But Labour are bringing in new “equality” laws. They could well make it law you have to have prayer rooms or whatever it is ?

  • @ruthcollins2841
    @ruthcollins2841 16 днів тому +28

    The parent should pay for ALL legal costs on both sides😊

  • @davidtomkins2542
    @davidtomkins2542 16 днів тому +219

    There are places for students to pray, go to a Muslim country,leave now

    • @262shiv
      @262shiv 16 днів тому

      LOL, even muslim countries like UAE , saudi, jordon will not take these radicals.. These deceptive radicals are more dangerous than taliban itself...UK has fallen

    • @amoyjoyce1117
      @amoyjoyce1117 14 днів тому +2

      Pray In the heart ! Oh Allah don’t listen to the heart, or they do t have a heart .. always trying to bully us into their way of life , I wish they really pray . Because he does not hear them. There is only one God the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob

    • @262shiv
      @262shiv 14 днів тому

      Well they are here to do soft/deceptive and defensive jihad and establish caliphate, muslim countries already have caliphate so no purpose of going there.
      Now they are 10percent so switching to offensive.

    • @ZanSMC.473
      @ZanSMC.473 13 днів тому

      Racist🤬

    • @262shiv
      @262shiv 13 днів тому +4

      @@ZanSMC.473 its common sense and truth.

  • @paullemonidis
    @paullemonidis 16 днів тому +560

    A certain demographic playing the victim?! There's a surprise!

  • @NeilHughes-ti6pz
    @NeilHughes-ti6pz 16 днів тому +329

    Arrogant waste of taxpayer money 💰.

  • @mjones4083
    @mjones4083 16 днів тому +69

    Give them an inch and they demand a yard , give them a yard and they demand a mile . & they never "give " anything back . That is how it plays out in real life.

    • @786fari1
      @786fari1 16 днів тому

      That only applies to women clearly u ain’t married

    • @mjones4083
      @mjones4083 16 днів тому +5

      @@786fari1 Silly comment .Try and grow up or stick to tic tok .

    • @786fari1
      @786fari1 16 днів тому +1

      Says your mom last night 😂

    • @noreenhussain5744
      @noreenhussain5744 16 днів тому

      Them who is them ?

    • @mjones4083
      @mjones4083 16 днів тому +5

      @@noreenhussain5744 "Them " who don't suit our tolerant , enlightened and civilised society , Never have and never will .

  • @3factsNG
    @3factsNG 16 днів тому +28

    It's NOT a faith school, and it's made clear from the start, so if it doesn't suit you, don't go there.

  • @paulmahy
    @paulmahy 16 днів тому +19

    Why have there been no arrests in the threatening of the teacher who has had to go into hiding?
    These people making these threats should be locked up, then thrown out of the country. If they claim their lives will be in danger in their own country, then good, they shouldn't have f***** around in ours.

  • @AlyshaRobson-qe1ns
    @AlyshaRobson-qe1ns 16 днів тому +78

    I feel excluded that my taxpaying money payed for this

  • @Kat-pu7ls
    @Kat-pu7ls 16 днів тому +348

    That’s what’s disturbing is that this parent used our taxpayers money for this foolishness

    • @free-thinker1046
      @free-thinker1046 16 днів тому +5

      Most of tax is paid by business owned by foreigner. Your peanut 9 to 5 office salary doesn’t pay enough tax to have a say in this country.

    • @ernestschroeder9762
      @ernestschroeder9762 16 днів тому +18

      ​@@free-thinker1046so you're saying only foreigners should have a say in Britain?

    • @irishstew9951
      @irishstew9951 16 днів тому +17

      ​@@free-thinker1046yea these people definitely pay more funny how the UK was doing better before inviting half the world in... Weird that right?

    • @madeleinel6089
      @madeleinel6089 16 днів тому +17

      @@free-thinker1046doesn’t matter how much money we pay in tax! I object to my tax being used to pay for the legal aid for this ridiculous court case. She knew when she first started at the school,there was no muslim prayer rooms, so she should have taken herself off to a muslim school

    • @frankie6954
      @frankie6954 16 днів тому +7

      ​@@free-thinker1046You must be living in noddy land if you really think the rich pay.

  • @davidmacgregor5193
    @davidmacgregor5193 16 днів тому +20

    They found out that they're not as entitled as they thought they were.

  • @sandrastewart2450
    @sandrastewart2450 16 днів тому +26

    We are sick of them all waisting taxpayers money

  • @bkaur04
    @bkaur04 16 днів тому +59

    How can she be allowed to waste our taxpayers money!!! Absolutely disgusting. Should be made to pay it back. We work hard, not for selfish people like this to waste it🤬🤬🤬

  • @rontaylor995
    @rontaylor995 16 днів тому +81

    Why are they in this country .

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 16 днів тому +31

      Benefits

    • @Daza-La
      @Daza-La 16 днів тому +3

      Your forefathers invited them for cheap labour. Actions have consequences.

    • @toucan221
      @toucan221 16 днів тому +24

      @@Daza-La well we better uninvite them- the sooner the better.

    • @kerrycarter330
      @kerrycarter330 13 днів тому +2

      @@Daza-Lathe ones our forefathers invited in pretty much assimilated and became British. The hoards of the last 30 years or more not so much.

    • @louloubrow2171
      @louloubrow2171 12 днів тому

      @@kerrycarter330 Nooo our lefty looney in their nice big houses and salary Coverment MP did not US!!!!!!

  • @christinezafiris4777
    @christinezafiris4777 16 днів тому +9

    Why did the taxpayers pay the student’s legal fees? What a disgrace. The student should leave the school.

  • @kerrybayton8356
    @kerrybayton8356 16 днів тому +99

    If you dont like the rules just go tio a muslim only school.. This student is a trouble maker & why should tax payers pay for this muslim trouble makers court cost?

    • @4thinternational283
      @4thinternational283 16 днів тому +6

      I somehow don't believe the child took it upon themselves to go and consult a solicitor.

    • @louloubrow2171
      @louloubrow2171 12 днів тому +1

      Look at our pathetic leaders and that’s why

  • @deedee5562
    @deedee5562 16 днів тому +27

    Baz............. THIS IS ENGLAND. WE ALREADY HAVE OUR OWN CULTURE. OUR SCHOOLS ARE NOT YOUR MOSQUES AND AM DAMN WELL SICK OF IT. THE THOUGHT OF MY GRANDCHILDREN BEING AROUND THESE DISGUSTING IDEOLOGIES MAKES ME FEEL SICK,

    • @lmckennen8673
      @lmckennen8673 10 днів тому

      Shame you don’t fight for it
      Only complain
      You what’s called a coward

    • @deedee5562
      @deedee5562 9 днів тому

      @@lmckennen8673 what would you have me do?. Youve judged me a coward though, you dont know me at all.

  • @johnmcelroy347
    @johnmcelroy347 16 днів тому +19

    Why did this go to court? Such a waste of money. Government just squander our money.

  • @user-pc7dg1gl3d
    @user-pc7dg1gl3d 16 днів тому +59

    How the hell did she get legal aid

    • @julieclonan2427
      @julieclonan2427 16 днів тому +9

      Keir Stammerer probably or Cherie Bliar , and her dodgy Yuman Rights Lawyer Club .

    • @stephenporter6005
      @stephenporter6005 13 днів тому

      Religion of peace which this government Bend over backwards to keep happy

    • @louloubrow2171
      @louloubrow2171 12 днів тому

      Vote REFORM 🇬🇧 UK and it won’t happen again Clue pathetic people in our government

  • @WelshWoman23
    @WelshWoman23 16 днів тому +18

    lets not forget, she isnt only a head teacher of a school, she made the school!

  • @shelleylyme6402
    @shelleylyme6402 16 днів тому +58

    It's just another passive-aggressive attempt to possess public space and bully everyone else by that possession. Vile.

    • @Jkk55
      @Jkk55 16 днів тому +1

      Poking the bear I would say! It’s pathetic

    • @tonybuttie3038
      @tonybuttie3038 16 днів тому +3

      correct, Its nothing to do with praying, the kids can pray all nite, if they wanted too, its a show of dominance

  • @clairecoupland3899
    @clairecoupland3899 16 днів тому +16

    She should be made to pay every penny of legal costs back, including the head teachers! Case shouldn't have been accepted in the first place! 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @gavindouglas7020
    @gavindouglas7020 16 днів тому +167

    A Muslim ☪️ living in Britain 🇬🇧 and is the victim
    Well I never

  • @rosemarie-karma
    @rosemarie-karma 16 днів тому +220

    Simply go to a muslim school. We need to stop giving in

    • @fayabogush2956
      @fayabogush2956 16 днів тому +65

      To go to a muslim country would be even better.

    • @angelaeastwood3938
      @angelaeastwood3938 16 днів тому +14

      I agree

    • @kyrusinek
      @kyrusinek 16 днів тому +3

      I think some "kinda" know they would get a lesser education that would help them in the UK get a better job, if they went to an Islamic school. Its super odd having a religiously focused school because *your* religion doesn't translate to anything career wise. I dont mind it in a work environment so long as it during a brake, no more than I mind people who smoke having a tab brake.

    • @rosemarie-karma
      @rosemarie-karma 16 днів тому +11

      @kyrusinek I do mind it in a work environment. They take the piss as their book states, if you are in work you can Forgo your prayers during this time.

    • @user-ls4lx3qt3h
      @user-ls4lx3qt3h 16 днів тому

      Are they any Muslim schools 🤔

  • @user-wh2fd2yx2y
    @user-wh2fd2yx2y 16 днів тому +23

    This student should be made to pay the moneyback for legal aid, which is outrageous!! plus the costs of the oposition and damages to the school and teachers!

    • @louloubrow2171
      @louloubrow2171 12 днів тому +1

      Our government should be outed they allowed this !!!!

  • @ObiePaddles
    @ObiePaddles 16 днів тому +29

    Baz is wrong. This was about one religion being treated differently. It’s always the same one.

    • @sandraowens4821
      @sandraowens4821 14 днів тому +1

      We use to have christian asemblys in all schools when i was a child. No one was forced to attend. This was stopped because certain groups found it offensive.

    • @joycegibbs5267
      @joycegibbs5267 13 днів тому +1

      it’s the continuing show of dominance, like the hate marches each Saturday !

  • @patricktracey7424
    @patricktracey7424 16 днів тому +72

    a school is a place of education of learning not a religious mosque, prayers should be done outside school hours in privacy, if pupils cannot do this then move to another school.

    • @agentsmith6492
      @agentsmith6492 16 днів тому +8

      Or leave the country full stop

    • @maverick1487
      @maverick1487 16 днів тому +2

      Well said Patrick!👍

    • @tonybuttie3038
      @tonybuttie3038 16 днів тому +2

      Its nothing to do with praying, the kids can pray all nite, if they wanted too, its a show of dominance

    • @TheDevaser
      @TheDevaser 13 днів тому

      Yes!!!

  • @bl4531
    @bl4531 16 днів тому +24

    She's quite right for standing her ground, sticking to her principles and putting all pupils first. Of course certain people don't like strong women . Their problem.

  • @lindahorn9644
    @lindahorn9644 16 днів тому +61

    Go to a school that has the time for prayers 5 times a day ....our kids need to learn.....do one GO away.....good on the schools that ban prayers in English schools then go a Muslim school f/o....England do you now ....

    • @louloubrow2171
      @louloubrow2171 12 днів тому +1

      And bring back pork pie 🥧 and sausage rolls to our schools for those who want it

  • @martyy4073
    @martyy4073 16 днів тому +146

    schools are for education keep your religion at home

    • @khadsykoo2528
      @khadsykoo2528 16 днів тому +1

      Alright then stop celebrating Christmas Easter and all the other Christian holidays. Can't have it both ways.

    • @jordanharrison8454
      @jordanharrison8454 16 днів тому +10

      @khadsykoo2528 Christmas is hardly even a Christian holiday any more. You heard about the fat man in the red suit and with the white beard?
      As for Easter barely anyone cares.
      School is for education, not talking to some imaginary being.

    • @BellaBoz
      @BellaBoz 16 днів тому +18

      ​@@khadsykoo2528 It's a Christian country , not middle east. Come down 😂

    • @squirrelboy1328
      @squirrelboy1328 16 днів тому +13

      ​@@khadsykoo2528 It's a Christian country ! Now don't bring in the comment that all are atheists in the West. No we aren't. We are Christians and we follow Christ and it means a lot to us. Learn to respect the laws in the Country that took you in and leave religion out of schools if that is the rule in that country.

    • @angelaeastwood3938
      @angelaeastwood3938 16 днів тому +6

      ​@squirrelboy1328 well said 🇬🇧

  • @sonyashas9347
    @sonyashas9347 16 днів тому +39

    Well done to this head teacher who took the hard way to fight for what is right and best for everyone. In this case the protestors were hired people from the Iranian Islamic center in London.
    I feel sorry for the other teacher with young family whose headteacher apologised to the mullah and the parents and still the mullah was not appeased and the teacher was laid off and now for the last 3 years he is in hiding. His life is ruined. Remember what happened to Rushdie.

  • @patriciaoreilly8907
    @patriciaoreilly8907 16 днів тому +99

    Great headteacher & great school in Wembley very much respected by the residents & parents of children who go there 😊 very well behaviour at the bus stop after the school finishes for the day. Rules are crystal clear so for this to happen its shameful by the parent who put the school through unrest if you want to go to pray etc go to a Muslim school like Catholics go to a Catholic school 😊 this motive by the parent is very sinister motive & bulling to change the school system 😊 outstanding school & children enjoy the school .

    • @sandraowens4821
      @sandraowens4821 14 днів тому +1

      They want to stop, Easter and Christmas breaks, in the name of fairness of course!

  • @user-ve3px7zr4u
    @user-ve3px7zr4u 16 днів тому +170

    The school which does not allow this, is the one that absolutely excels. Surely this is the model for all schools, not the exception.

  • @jeffshaw3465
    @jeffshaw3465 16 днів тому +59

    So I go to a hotel that doesn’t have a spa and then I demand one.

    • @khadsykoo2528
      @khadsykoo2528 16 днів тому

      A spa is not a religious requirement..it's a service someone offers. The two are completely different so your analogy makes no sense.

    • @cookieking1996
      @cookieking1996 16 днів тому +6

      @@khadsykoo2528the analogy makes perfect sense. I don’t think you understand what an analogy is. It serves to highlight a common principle, not serve to present identical facts.

    • @janet5846
      @janet5846 16 днів тому +3

      ​@khadsykoo2528 A school is not a place where religious requirements have to be observed. It's a school, if you don't like it, find another one. OC makes perfect sense, if you don't like certain hotel, school, no one is forcing you to go there, pick somewhere else, not that difficult

    • @khadsykoo2528
      @khadsykoo2528 16 днів тому

      @janet5846 a school needs to offer inclusion for all the pupils who attend. Pupils asking for some time to pray should not be a hindrance to the senior leadership team. It's not disrupting pupils or disadvantaging the school if anything it would be doing them favours. It's funny how people would allow LGBTQIA nonsense to be promoted but won't allow people to practice their faith.

  • @karma-queenofflames376
    @karma-queenofflames376 16 днів тому +23

    If everyone was forced to pander to all of our feelings, this issue would have no end. Keep prayer within buildings of worship and at home. We don't all have to participate in your beliefs. You're not special, you're just entitled.

    • @joycegibbs5267
      @joycegibbs5267 13 днів тому +1

      sadly, this has all come from America & the lawyers are making a fortune. This country is run by lawyers & the civil service, not politicians 😢

  • @MackemdownsouthF.T.M
    @MackemdownsouthF.T.M 16 днів тому +19

    We've young kids in Britain starving and then you've got this tosh

  • @user-ql5hu1nl5d
    @user-ql5hu1nl5d 16 днів тому +26

    Did Muhammad, at 53 years of age marry a 6 year old?

    • @priortokaraew7569
      @priortokaraew7569 16 днів тому +1

      54

    • @Nabil-js5xu
      @Nabil-js5xu 15 днів тому +1

      She was 9 years old not 6.And what about 3 years old Rebecca.

    • @nymgrace1227
      @nymgrace1227 15 днів тому +3

      The profit consummated this “marriage “ when she was a woman of nine and he was a young lad of 54. He also married his son’s ex wife

    • @user-ql5hu1nl5d
      @user-ql5hu1nl5d 15 днів тому +2

      @@nymgrace1227 do you think a 9 year old is a woman?

    • @ZanSMC.473
      @ZanSMC.473 13 днів тому

      Virgin Mary 15, Joseph The Carpenter 80🤫🤫🤫🤡🤡🤡

  • @skruffs1537
    @skruffs1537 16 днів тому +129

    The head teacher is correct, School is for learning not prayer. If the parents do not like it, they can move their children elsewhere. Simple !
    How dare the mum bringing this cost the public = disgusting!!! That family should have to pay their own legal fees!

  • @labouraredangerous
    @labouraredangerous 16 днів тому +17

    Just repatriate them already

  • @ab36935
    @ab36935 16 днів тому +33

    Its too late, the floodgates are already open, and thousands more boat people are of the same religion.

  • @_lmagine
    @_lmagine 16 днів тому +14

    We really should use this as a benchmark for the rest of the country. No special areas or times for Muslims please. We're all equal here.

  • @improfit9945
    @improfit9945 16 днів тому +28

    I recently attended an onlne interactive course, there was constant disruption by a particular demographic, disapperaing and then reapperaing and demanding special attention for being absent and missing tuition !

  • @user-tg5vs1xz5x
    @user-tg5vs1xz5x 16 днів тому +98

    Where can. Muslim pray 5 times a day ? How about go pray in a Muslim country

    • @AKay-dh4gq
      @AKay-dh4gq 16 днів тому +3

      Muslims pray no matter where they are, Muslim county or not.
      They are the only people who actually pray no other religion takes their prayers seriously
      People hate strong faiths but you can not destroy Islam it is still growing faster than other religion
      A Muslim will pray whether you agree or not

    • @ady6837
      @ady6837 16 днів тому +7

      ​@@AKay-dh4gq🙄😄

    • @user-tg5vs1xz5x
      @user-tg5vs1xz5x 16 днів тому

      @@AKay-dh4gq They need to leave this country

    • @itube027
      @itube027 16 днів тому +14

      @@AKay-dh4gqsure, just do it and don’t involve everyone else. You know your Muslim prayer is just a mixture of yoga and sun worship, right?

    • @manassesfilho5518
      @manassesfilho5518 16 днів тому +4

      ​@@AKay-dh4gq mate why someone has the needs to hate a strong faith? Why do you believe people have to destroy islam?
      I believe you live in a paranoia state of mind or your perception of reallty is totally wrong.

  • @BeasantN
    @BeasantN 16 днів тому +38

    This is a christian country. Want to practice another religion outside of a school or work day fine. Want to do that during a school day or working day there are many countries around the world that will have that religion, you wish to practice, so go there. If that makes you unhappy go to where you can be happy. You have the freedom to do that.

    • @khadsykoo2528
      @khadsykoo2528 16 днів тому +1

      Actually it's not a Christian country. Majority of people identify as Athiest or Agnostic.

    • @inh415
      @inh415 16 днів тому +4

      Just separate religion from anything public. No public funding. Not in schools and definitely not in government.

    • @Balabaluka
      @Balabaluka 16 днів тому +2

      Practicing Christians would understand the need of a practitioner of another (in particular Abrahamic) religion to uphold regular prayer. You can see examples in Jerusalem and elsewhere where Christians protect praying Muslims and vice versa.

    • @khadsykoo2528
      @khadsykoo2528 16 днів тому +3

      @Balabaluka exactly 💯. If it truly is a Christian country then you lot would know the importance of prayer.

    • @inh415
      @inh415 16 днів тому +1

      @@Balabaluka need or want?

  • @Maggie_n_Mitch23
    @Maggie_n_Mitch23 16 днів тому +47

    Should of gone to a school that allows such sillyness ?

    • @agnescraig2912
      @agnescraig2912 16 днів тому +1

      Am a Catholic migrant I can pray anytime without this "Look at religious me" act of kissing the ground with blazers used as a prayer mat BS

  • @jimbo-yv5jh
    @jimbo-yv5jh 16 днів тому +8

    They'll never change our way of life.

  • @kevinmcmahon6910
    @kevinmcmahon6910 16 днів тому +78

    You never hear a good story about this demographic. It's always aggravation and a cost to our country. I'm waiting to see what benefits they actually bring.

    • @MB-xz8xd
      @MB-xz8xd 16 днів тому

      To all those liking this comment... I assume that by 'this demographic' you are not subtly pointing towards Muslims? Well my fellow Brit (if you are British of course) have you even bothered to consider any benefits they might bring? Have you even tried to search online for your answer or will you allow a certain sort of thinking (some may call this ignorant thinking or stereotyping or plain racism or just downright miserliness and resentment- I am not specifically stating this) that Muslims may well be the most generous group in the UK? - and that they may actually donate four times more to charity than the average Brit?
      Well if you'd stop for a moment to find out you'd see that actually this is true. So guess what? I'm assuming you're not a Muslim, so any Muslim is probably way way more generous than you. Just the likelihood of statistics. Nothing personal. I'd call that a huge benefit that Muslims bring right? Would you? Words are cheap right... Actions much less so. Can you put your hands in your pockets?

    • @kevinmcmahon6910
      @kevinmcmahon6910 16 днів тому +10

      And there we have it, once you call out what you see every week, the answer is always "racist". I put it to " my friend" that the British people are the most generous hosts in the world. However, there are those that are not satisfied with this and want to make our country in their own image.
      Whether you like it or not this is primarily a white Christian country and Christian do not need to boast about their generosity because it's there for all to see.

    • @richlk9901
      @richlk9901 16 днів тому +5

      ​@MB-xz8xd they donate 4 times more because its a tenant of islam. That's not charity. Charity is when one voluntarily aids a cause /people. If u want to talk about how generous the said community is please find out how much they voluntarily donate to causes/people then brag.

    • @richlk9901
      @richlk9901 16 днів тому +10

      ​@@MB-xz8xdsince they're soo generous they can pay fir this farce of a lawsuit

    • @bigdaveo397
      @bigdaveo397 16 днів тому

      ​@MB-xz8xd you weren't able to answer the question.....what do they bring other than total aggravavtion and division everywhere they settle.
      The majority of UK Muslim charitable donations are to Islamic charities.

  • @GrantMC100
    @GrantMC100 16 днів тому +82

    The whole education system should adopt this approach. Keep religion away from our schools, colleges and universities. These people are religious fanatics,we are not.

  • @davidloughlin2238
    @davidloughlin2238 16 днів тому +21

    Appalling case, Katherine is quite right, her focus is on discipline and a quality education. I am 65 and had a disciplined, quality education in a poor area. That education had carried me through my entire life and I am very grateful for it. Too many of the modern students seem more focused on disruption and battling with their teachers, the will have their fun but the consequences of wasting their school time will be felt through their entire lives.

  • @seanpaul3050
    @seanpaul3050 16 днів тому +50

    The real story here is the scumbag lawyer who took this case on. That is what we should be talking about.

    • @Uniquely_L1
      @Uniquely_L1 16 днів тому +5

      Very likely a cousin brother 😒

    • @MrCarol666
      @MrCarol666 14 днів тому +1

      Should not be allowed its not a crime and is not mandatry to have seperate times for prays .5 times a day the lads pray while the wifes tend to the house home or farm in there lands .that is fact the people carry a beaded chalise to prey no reason for seperate quarters ..some carry there own mat to kneel on or cushion ...

  • @nickyleighton3766
    @nickyleighton3766 16 днів тому +58

    Fast forward a few years and that student will be causing problems
    ...big problems

    • @nemosays6337
      @nemosays6337 16 днів тому +7

      Courtesy of an exemplary education!

    • @joycegibbs5267
      @joycegibbs5267 13 днів тому

      I heard she’d threatened another pupil with a knife? Maybe this was to get back at the school for whatever punishment she might have had ?

  • @vonyp6018
    @vonyp6018 16 днів тому +20

    They can pray after school apparently in order to make it up

  • @roblloyd1879
    @roblloyd1879 16 днів тому +30

    I agree with the court findings completely. I would prefer to see all schools secular. I remember when I was in school back in the late 50s/early 60s some catholic children would get up and leave the classroom if religion was mentioned, much to the amusement of the rest of the class and often the teacher. Rather pathetic really.

  • @zackay8818
    @zackay8818 16 днів тому +5

    if i sued someone and lost wouldnt i have to pay court costs we need now to claw back the money from the family who i would think are not poor sending daughter to a great school . please get my money back

  • @MAZ732
    @MAZ732 16 днів тому +7

    His talking about Muslim schools and making it sound like he’s talking about Christian schools! Show me a main stream british school that lets its kids leave class 5 times a day to pray, just one?

  • @grash4435
    @grash4435 16 днів тому +28

    Don't you like rules at school change the school . Or even change the country.

  • @simplesimon5739
    @simplesimon5739 16 днів тому +31

    Baz should do one. We need to learn no lessons from him or his faith.

    • @loopyloo788
      @loopyloo788 16 днів тому +9

      My thoughts exactly. Telling a highly successful head teacher ‘she could learn from other schools’. The bloody audacity.

  • @PatrickNaag-uq5yt
    @PatrickNaag-uq5yt 16 днів тому +7

    Tbh, it's not really praying 5x a day. It's more like cursing non-believers 5x a day. That's pretty much salat

    • @anajaz9459
      @anajaz9459 16 днів тому

      anyone who believes this can simply read how to pray and find out this is untrue

  • @pamelsims2068
    @pamelsims2068 16 днів тому +6

    I taught in a mixed race , inner city school. There were frequent occasions where up to 20% of my students left my GCSE lessons early, or arrived late, because they had Muslim prayers. It was disruptive and, as it was a Science lesson, they had no idea what the lesson was about and I had to stop what I was doing to register them then catch them up to speed, or they walked out before the lesson was drawn to a conclusion and the learning summarised. Other students were annoyed and distracted and it was very difficult. Students are in school to learn and they should not be disadvantaged in this way. This school treats all students equally and the results speak for themselves.

    • @typetwo
      @typetwo 16 днів тому

      Very interesting comment. Thanks.

    • @louloubrow2171
      @louloubrow2171 12 днів тому

      Then that’s the schools fault!!! Shouldn’t never of allowed this

  • @glideman
    @glideman 16 днів тому +10

    Deport!

  • @tonyh1515
    @tonyh1515 16 днів тому +24

    The poor taxpayer as usual the gov. are GANGSTERS !!

  • @littzy5576
    @littzy5576 16 днів тому +28

    Out money wasted on this it’s an absolute joke if you want to challenge the rules do it on your own money. Her family should be made to pay this back

  • @robertrickett1636
    @robertrickett1636 16 днів тому +6

    Won’t be long before they are waving a flip flop in the air over something else

  • @manichairdo9265
    @manichairdo9265 16 днів тому +5

    Everyone pays the price of someone's self centredness.
    Deep sigh.

  • @Conpauleonina
    @Conpauleonina 16 днів тому +17

    DON’T give them special treatment for religious beliefs . Get a grip of this now . As this kind of thing leads to division and eventually violence on religious grounds. Trust me I grew up through the troubles in Belfast. It was bleak and many suffered on religious grounds.

    • @darwinsfish
      @darwinsfish 16 днів тому +1

      Exactly, education is the key.

  • @rigilchrist
    @rigilchrist 16 днів тому +4

    It is an outrage that a mother who placed her daughter in a secular school, would then exploit her daughter to take this action, at the public expense. There is something very wrong at the Legal Aid Agency who agreed to fund this action and they need to be held to account. I see that in the Head's measured response to the ruling, she states: "This mum intends to send her second child to Michaela, starting in September. At the same time, this mum has sent a letter to our lawyers, suggesting that she may take us to court yet again over another issue at the school she doesn't like, presumably once again at the tax-payer's expense". The intolerance of Muslims once again challenges our tolerant society. We should heed the advice of Karl Popper, and not tolerate the intolerant.

    • @typetwo
      @typetwo 16 днів тому

      When I worked in Social Work I remember hearing the phrase 'my lawyer' from people on benefits every so often. I truly believe legal aid is vital socially, but 'vexatious litigation' must be stopped.

    • @lyndamayfield1913
      @lyndamayfield1913 16 днів тому

      Probably something to do with sausages on the menu 🙄

  • @4thinternational283
    @4thinternational283 16 днів тому +7

    This headmistress is now in grave danger. It wouldn't surprise me if she ends up in hiding like the teacher from Batley.

    • @theozzy4717
      @theozzy4717 14 днів тому +1

      Bit of a different situation. She has a court ruling on her side.

    • @4thinternational283
      @4thinternational283 12 днів тому

      @@theozzy4717 true, but it only takes one of these lunatics.

  • @wickertwm
    @wickertwm 16 днів тому +6

    They can have private schools that cater to their faith, the problem is that they don't want to pay for it. Everything should be free in Britain, and why would you pay for a private school when you can muscle the public school to your will?

    • @julieclonan2427
      @julieclonan2427 16 днів тому +1

      There called Madrases with Mattresses, they only read 1 Book.

  • @daviecanning1180
    @daviecanning1180 16 днів тому +6

    That's par for the course with these people. Act nonchalant till they get their feet under the table. Then try to change things for their own agenda. We're on a very slippery slope.

  • @user-yz7vc1ux6p
    @user-yz7vc1ux6p 16 днів тому +4

    How on earth were these people allowed to get legal aid for this I find this disgusting they are throwing our tax money around as if it was confetti no wonder we have problems in this country.

  • @yunusrai2752
    @yunusrai2752 16 днів тому +9

    Most of the year only need one prayer rest are out of school hours ... country is unfortunately loosing its intelligence

  • @BalkarSingh-xe8zv
    @BalkarSingh-xe8zv 16 днів тому +3

    Nice to see they can't have it there own way all the time

  • @arao7047
    @arao7047 16 днів тому +4

    How was taxpayer money allowed to be used

  • @suvoir
    @suvoir 16 днів тому +11

    which madrasa is that inclusive gem from? Mogadishu school of thought and Kabul Institutes of Tolerance?

  • @troyenglish5047
    @troyenglish5047 16 днів тому +3

    Also at the workplace it needs to stop we are not allowed to leave our station & go & pray.🤬

    • @jamaali2358
      @jamaali2358 16 днів тому

      don't place restrictions on yourself, think you are more than that

  • @Kat-pu7ls
    @Kat-pu7ls 16 днів тому +20

    This man is not listening. Michaela doesn’t have the space….

    • @snsn7251
      @snsn7251 16 днів тому +4

      Selective hearing and pandering

    • @robedmundsvid
      @robedmundsvid 16 днів тому +4

      He doesn't want to listen

  • @valeriegrimshaw1365
    @valeriegrimshaw1365 16 днів тому +4

    Notice how they USE their women and children...megaphones, challenges to school ethos....

  • @lindapayne1595
    @lindapayne1595 16 днів тому +5

    Never had this crap 50 years ago.

  • @greyfriars6540
    @greyfriars6540 16 днів тому +8

    The only mandatory prayer is on Friday afternoons. All the others can be fitted in at any time. This iis culteral not religious.

  • @mohienamjad3271
    @mohienamjad3271 16 днів тому +4

    What i find a "Tremendous Abuse of Tax Payers Money" is sueing a disabled person who needs Disability so they cant get it and burning 44 million£

  • @tadpringle3148
    @tadpringle3148 16 днів тому +5

    They left out the fact that the Muslim 'prayer' insults Christians and condemns Jews. Five times a day.

    • @jamaali2358
      @jamaali2358 16 днів тому +1

      stop spreading lies and hate. Maybe you should try praying.

    • @pinkdiamond1847
      @pinkdiamond1847 16 днів тому

      Really?
      What does it say to condemn them?
      Like the exact wording translated into English.

  • @bv3bv334
    @bv3bv334 16 днів тому +21

    Sadly, the lady teacher could well now be a target. We live in a mad world.

  • @neogirl37
    @neogirl37 16 днів тому +10

    We've never had a separate prayer time in English schools, might have sung morning has broken in assembly & said a few little words, but that's it! We are also a Christian country, not going to lie about it, we're in England!

    • @jamaali2358
      @jamaali2358 16 днів тому +2

      Secular democracy nothing Christian about this country and if it was it would understand the importance of prayer.

    • @pinkdiamond1847
      @pinkdiamond1847 16 днів тому

      B/S my primary school had us go to church once a week and it wasn't even a Christian school and this was in the 2000s So it wasn't even that long ago (unless you are much younger than me and if you are, what are you doing here? Go and enjoy your youth. Stop getting into politics, it'll only stress you out)

    • @pinkdiamond1847
      @pinkdiamond1847 16 днів тому

      ​@@jamaali2358
      Not to mention kindness towards others and not judging others without judging yourselves There is absolutely No kindness here in England and almost nothing but harsh judgements cast upon others.
      Jesus would be disappointed with us and I say us because I am part of the problem although I am working on it it's hard to be in British society and not be evil.

    • @jamaali2358
      @jamaali2358 16 днів тому

      @pinkdiamond1847 People are different let's respect each other, help each other and learn from each other. All the right wing peddle is hate and restrictions. How miserable is that of a life to lead.

    • @DeeOdzta
      @DeeOdzta 16 днів тому +2

      @@jamaali2358 At the institutional level, the Anglican Church maintains its status of religion of the state and the King is still Head of the Church: hence by law, England is still a Christian country, which entails some specific privileges for the Church of England that are not extended to other religions.

  • @sallyyeomans3456
    @sallyyeomans3456 16 днів тому +5

    The girl knew from day dot along with her mother the rules on religion which they accepted.
    It seems to me that this was intentionally done to cause this issue.
    After all the protests & threats the teachers & head mistress received from this self professed "peaceful" religion,
    the girl needs banning, and parents pay for the court costs.

    • @pinkdiamond1847
      @pinkdiamond1847 16 днів тому

      If they hated the school that much which I would understand because I would have hated it if I was unfortunate enough to go there, why didn't they just leave?
      Why did they have to make a court case out of it when they could have just left and gone to another school 🤔