ExpressLRS Vs. Crossfire - 25mW 3KM Range Test
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2021
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* About the test: • Radio Multi-Protocol R...
* Both Radio TXs were set to 25mw
* The BetaFPV ExpressLRS TX was mounted on the Tango 2
* ExpressLRS Settings:
- Pkt Rate - 500Hz
- TLM Ratio: 1:64
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- No failsafe have occurred during both tests. I might push the models further next time ;-)
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About the test: ua-cam.com/video/JOTlmjaUI6s/v-deo.html
* Both Radio TXs were set to 25mw
* The BetaFPV ExpressLRS TX was mounted on the Tango 2
* ExpressLRS Settings:
- Pkt Rate - 500Hz
- TLM Ratio: 1:64
- Antenna: betafpv.com/products/betafpv-moxon-antenna?sca_ref=67456.Y8BhtlkEp8
- No failsafe have occurred during both tests. I might push the modules further next time ;-)
Thank you for this great test!
Interesting, as always. Thank you for your instructive content. I am curious, given Moxon is directional and TBS T has nulls, as to the behavior of a flight where you may not be aligned with the model (which can be simulated by turning your radio) and a flight in which LOS is impeded by foliage or terrain.
500hz for elrs is not fare. Tango had only 50hz. If you set elrs to 50hz 25mw it will fly 5 time further after tango failsafed
let's test both locked at 50hz and 150hz
And the Tango 2 is 900Mhz so that's even more in favor of TBS and still, ExpressLRS on 2.4GHz still kept up!
Thanks for uploading this kind of testing so we can make informed decisions, besides flying that far would also make me really stressed!
My pleasure. I was using the Mavic Air 2, so it was not stressful at all :-)
Except you can make an informed decision when he’s feeding you false information. Crossfire outperforms elrs in every single possible way.
@@joshlasalle123 make your own “true” tests and share the results. useless conversation will not convince anybody in superiority of something.
Hi Gal, thanks again for your work, even there are some discussion, this vid shows us how strong ELRS is, even i´m using crfr but of course not on 25mill. Kudos to your work for the FPV Community.
Hey Gal! Huge thanks for the great comparison test. Compliments!
Thanks for watching :-)
Pretty fantastic testing, Gal! 😃
Really impressive results! 2.4Ghz with that range in 25mW? WOW! 😮
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Wow! Great distance for both on just 25mw! TBS needs to pull something out of their hat, or they’re going to be joining FrSky on the side of the road. With ExpressLRS being relatively new and "open source", manufacturers are jumping on the bandwagon which is great for competition in the marketplace!
Thanks for posting this vid!
Funny you should say this but Frsky have that light module Bay in most of there radios now... if you can suffer the old times and get in now with the receiver options they have now for Archer I think you will be on a double win.
Plus you can plug the Express lrs in.
Until Express lrs and Blacksheep get on the Gyro reciever Bandwagon they still relegate themselves to a back seat..
My 2 cents worth lol
I dunno, TBS have been around a long time doing RF stuff. They gave us Tracer recently and I can't see them letting ELRS gain too much market share without a fight. Competition is great for the hobby though!
TBS should just face the facts and adopt ELRS. They can just make premium high end ELRS stuff and still support their crossfire stuff.
I dont know if tbs is in danger. I bought crossfire recently, but i could go for express lrs. I am programer and know howto run this. I preffer to pay not 20 but 50 dolars and just plug and go flying instead of siting at the computer to flash lrs firmware
@@kdeclinetostatendeclinetos6707 it come pre flash. you can plug and play with newer hardware its already comes with official release FW
I need more penetration depth. which one is recommended ELRS 2.4 Ghz or 900 MHz or crossfire?
What VTX did you use?
Very interesting thanks. I still use Crossfire for all my GPS-equipped quads for long range. I did switch a couple 3inch models to ELRS with the EP2 receiver, simply because it is smaller than a TBS Nano RX and there are no antennas to worry about since it's on the board. BTW I use the BetaFPV TX on my Tango 2 with no issues using the Happymodel RX. I saw a post somewhere showing the BetaFPV Moxon has a very bad SWR... Anyone tested it? Presumably the stick antenna included is better. Next I will try the BetaFPV ELRS AIO FC on a 3inch 1S quad. I see no reason to switch from Crossfire to ELRS 868 but I am glad I tried ELRS 2.4. Now waiting on an ELRS 2.4 remote. Any news about that?
I do a lot of RC Sailboat racing and a few of us have larger boats in which we would like to run up the coast and back. 10 miles inshore/ offshore races would be a hoot and would take up an entire day. Battery's aren't an issue as we are only using 4 to 6 channels for servo's, winches, XT6 Cree lights etc.. No motor. The antenna's on the yachts we can fit to the deck which sits at around 4 inches from the water line So if need be we can mod to take ELRS or TBSX antennas which the mount would be around 5 inches above the water line.
Ive only ever had experience with 2.4gHZ and 5.8gHZ.... I would appreciate any help and advice which to go in for Xfire or ELRS. Given my age I am not able to code or write scripts either so how simple are these systems to get up and running? and how much interference from the salt water surface would we have from each transmission?
I guess the big question is can this be done without mortgaging your house or can one get into these systems relatively on a budget build?
Id really appreciate any advice here guys...
Thanks alot, Take care from Australia
Glad to see so much support for open source development here in the comments!
What are the upper numbers for?
Awesome Job always
Thank you! Cheers!
ELRS on 500hz? TBS on?
It's not more fair put bought on 50hz or the same rate?
Great test! Just curious…… Was the antenna on the TBS receiver oriented vertically the way it is designed to be?
Actually at 6:01 you can see the TBS RX antenna was mounted with the dipole in the direction of flying. So worst case scenario for signal receiving strength.
@@sempron1500 wow good point! OH wait!! The ELRS is also pointed in that same orientation. So both are bad. So this mean equal? Go check Gal IG page, you can see a other video of this test and you can see betafpv antenna. Which that was discussed in this video.
@@sempron1500 yeah lol, but they still manage 3Km on the lowest power setting. crazy
ExpressLRS is better in open area. A penetration test behind tree is needed for knowing what is better.
Wow nice comparison so 100% shift to Elrs from tango?
Already having Crossfire and Tracer.. Dunno,
but I like the 1s boards coming out with the ELRS built in and that tiny antenna...
Just ordered the Namimmo..
ELRS looks like a solid hit though, if I was coming into it now....
You had the nulls of the immortal t facing forward and backwards ie going away from yourself and back to yourself will be reduced gain. What was the ELRS antenna orientation?
Look at the moment the quad turns around: at 90 degree angle (from flight path) the signal on CRSF gets better (best at 90 degree) and then worse again as he faces home, so you are correct the antenna must be oriented with the nulls facing front and back, the worst orientation possible. Better would have been vertical, then there would be no RSSIdBm dip in the turn. But... the same thing happens with the ELRS flight, so he must have also had it's antenna orientation front-back and not vertical? That still makes it a fair comparison, but better would have been vertical yes.
Just admit your crossfire setups are obsolete. XD
@@karoo_bushman6880 I guess if they both have the same orientation it balances out and it gives you a worst case scenario.
@@blackwater7183 If ELRS wins out in the end I have no brand loyalty. I go where the performance and reliability is.
Crossfire still look fine on 25 mW. Would like to see another range test. At this time with obstacles - through bushes, forests and bandos. Freestyle brethren will like to see that.
Pity that Jumper T-Lite radio must have external module for ELRS support. I would like this radio with ELRS built-in.
And one is clear. If FrSky will not drop their "IP against compatibility" policy and will not invent something better as their existing firmware hodgepodge, they are finished.
For drones probably. For fixed wing their X20 system sells extremely well.
I just switched to the BetaFPV 2.4 system. I don't fly long range but it works great for me anyway.
How can you use aftermarket TX for dji GPS drone?
Like a Mavic? You can't. I didn't use the radio to control it - just to test the receivers.
ELRS is looking good. I'm going to stay with my Tango2 and XF Nanos for some time yet, but hopefully ELRS will be a mature product by the time I feel the need to upgrade.
Why will you need to upgrade?
Interesting how LQ dropped significantly on CRSF after the U-turn. ELRS seems more indifferent to the antenna positioning!
Gal didn't added a picture of his test rig. Maybe TBS antenna was behind that Mavic in way back.
The crosfire antenna was in the worst position. You can see it as it lands. The nulls of the dipole are pointing directly towards the front and back. This is the worst case scenario for these antennas. A vertical placement would have represented a much more ideal situation, and pointing the tips to the left and right instead of front and back would likely have given a different, improved result as well.
You needed to explain what you were showing, I’m new and trying to decide what to get and had No clue what I was looking at!!!
Thanks Gal
Are you flying a DJI drone with the Tango 2 in this video ? Forgive me if that's a stupid question I'm new to the hobby .
Hi, please check out the pinned comment.
That was truly amazing LQ for both. I'm really surprised about ELRS. I have few receivers and been debating to put some 2.4GHz receivers for my fleet. I have all my fleet equipped with Crossfire, but 2.4GHz really intrigues me. Just ordered 1W 2.4GHz HappyModel ES24TX Slim Pro module yesterday. Need to do some testing when it arrives.
Awesome test once again Gal.
Thanks Mikko! Let mw know how you like your new radio system after you'll give it a try.
Any updates? Would like to switch even my long-range copters to ELRS 1W had actually some failsafe with 1W crossfire for no reason, till now no failsafe with ELRS
Is this for the video range or the controll range of the drone?
Radio transmission range.
ELRS24 makes a ton of sense on tiny builds, and there's tons of stuff available right now. Currently running Crossfire on all my stuff, but ELRS would have my vote had I gotten into this a few months later. It's harder to find their stuff in stock, it's more expensive, and it takes more space on average. TBS has done amazing stuff, but they gotta step it up a bit.
Yes they have a major competition now and it’s hard to compete with an open source project that is works well…
Does the Mavic run on 2.4Ghz? If so it could be interfering with the ELRS?
No, it was restricted to 5.8Ghz.
@@KremerFPV brilliant. It's as if you know what you're doing 😉👍👍
How did u connect mavic with these controllers?
I didn't - the Mavic was just piggy backing a radio receiver.
I moved to elrs 😊 love it no more binding crap
What a great ELRS,
Can i use this betafpv module with a crossfire rx? didnt undestand the protocol
This can be confusing. First, you do need an ExpressLRS transmitter and receiver. Different companies is fine. If ELRS supports the hardware, then it will work. And between the transmitter and receiver they use the ExpressLRS protocol talk to each other through the air. However, the transmitter talks to your radio using the CRSF protocol, and the receiver talks to your quad's flight controller in betaflight using the CRSF protocol. They did this for compatibility purposes so ELRS can nearly drop into any existing platform like betaflight and openTX. To set the ELRS settings on the transmitter you use the ExpressLRS LUA Script and you update the receivers by turning on the on-chip wifi or with a usb passthrough in betaflight to flash the receiver. This is just a general overview. The updating process changes over time as the open source project evolves and makes it more streamlined each version. I would put it on par with the TBS update system at this point. They both can be confusing at times but the community support for ELRS is great.
I will release a tutorial soon. Thanks a lot @CREASE for the detailed response.
Love love my elrs !!! Im running a Boxer with rp3 diversity rx and BAAAM !!! She bangin
Happy flying!
Why are you using such an old version of the DJI Fly App..??..
🤔🤔🤔🤔😳😳🇬🇧
so confused with this video, it's a mavic with elrs? what? the HD feed looks like from a dji drone, did you put the elrs and crossfire receivers on the mavic?
Thanks for all you have done TBS, but the new kid in the block is, better, more compact and affordable!
ELRS is pretty sweet! I dig my Crossfire and will Not switch them to ELRS, but I’m probably not going to put crossfire on any quads moving moving forward as ELRS is absolutely much cheaper in the short run and the long run. Not to mention if you are into this hobby and love building and tinkering, ELRS is simply more fun and rewarding for me Everytime I install it. And ELRS is more exciting for me than my Crossfire as developers are constantly improving on it in the FB group.
Crossfire took my 5” quad out for a four mile flight and is great, but I have no more need to go that far. The price is too high now and Elrs works great for range, penetration, and that darn ep2 ceramic like receiver saves soooo much space and gives more options on and micro or 5”.
Crossfire has been good to me, but the constant innovation of the ELRS Devs is the win for me
CRSF is very reliable and I am not going to ditch it anytime soon.
I do like ELRS as it seems to be working very well.
For micro quadcopters it's going to be my go-to receiver for now for sure.
@@KremerFPV can you help me, i have already had 3 failsafes on crossfire when I go long ranging in the mountains. I had this so much, i think about also putting it in my 7incb copters (just have one 5inch freestyle copter and also pushed it really far with now problems) what are you thinking? What i also hate is if crossfire switches 150hz to (?50hz?) It feels so bad when doing risky shots
Don’t hassle yourself. Not sure what he has to gain but the video is bullshit. Crossfire on 25mw can go almost 20km. I’ve gotten past 10km on 25mw many times.
@@KremerFPV not sure why you’re bullshitting people. You sell these or something? Crossfire will outrange and out penetrate elrs any day in any scenario.
i think you should use non-moxon antenna for both transmitter
do you know how to show LQ exlrs with jumper t-lite on dji osd
It's possible using the custom messages hack.
ua-cam.com/video/hz1cg7HHgGw/v-deo.html
@@KremerFPV ok tq bos.., i'll try
how about elrs 915 ? better then 2.4 ?
Yes, 900Mhz does go really really far if you really want to go long long range. But since ExpressLRS uses LoRA modulation, you get tons and tons of range on 2.4Ghz. This is much different modulation that the 2.4GHz systems we had previously. So knowing this, you add that 2.4Ghz has smaller antennas, has more bandwidth so that more quads can be up in the air without interfering with each other, and that you can have super fast 250-500Hz high update speeds. Allot of the quad pilots that are switching to ELRS are choosing 2.4Ghz instead of 900Mhz. But trust me, there are tons of ELRS 900Mhz users out there. I was one of them when I flashed my 900Mhz FrSky R9 gear to ELRS. But I'm switched to 2.4Ghz.
@@cagmuer wow, very detailed 🔥🔥🔥 thank you very much buddy for your excellent explanation I hope others can read it too 🤘
I will compare both options soon.
Boa noite, qual o alcance máximo dos modulos de 2.4 GHz e 915 Hz?
Potentially you can get very far (Over 10KMs easily).
Should FPV LR beginner in 2021 start with ELRS or Crossfire?
Good question. For quadcopters ELRS is a great option.
@@KremerFPV how would elrs perform in a city environment like nyc?
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Funny how the DJI drone had no issues going that distance 😂
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interesting to see tests until failsafe and need to see how is oriented antennas on RX and TX. Because looks like betta fpv send this antenna to all blogers)
What does this tell us?
Both receivers worked great.
How many Crossfire users run 25mw?
I'd guess nearly none.
So, at 250mw we can go out so far it's craZy! Cuz neither one failsafed at 3000m, or nearly 2 miles out....on 25mw!
I don't do long range... IMO, It's simply to damn boring to fly that far and that slow.
So, for many like me, both system worked great.
Crossfire users: I can't see a single tiny reason to abandon Crossfire and switch to ELRS. Logically, if we already have Crossfire, why switch?!
If you are new to quads, sure ELRS is a good option. It cost a little less, but in the big scheme of things, that small savings between costs of receivers is not saving you a ton of money... Let's call a Crossfire Nano $25, and an ELRS receiver around $15. Great you saved ten bucks and some on the module too. Let's say you want to convert 10 quads to ELRS from Flysky or whatever, it'll save you 10 quads x 10 bucks less for each receiver = $100 + let's say approx. $40 for the module totaling $140 to outfit ten quads.
Not a huge amount of money. 💰
Sure, I guess you can make your own receivers, or something like that, but you've got to be the biggest cheapskate, penny pincher in the entire hobby to want to go to that extent to save a few more bucks!!! Lol 😳🙄
Bottom line: Crossfire users enjoy the best quality protocol on the market.
Newbies: Pinching pennies, go ahead and jump into ELRS. Want a tried and proven, used for years by thousands of flyers, go for Crossfire. Spend a little extra and get the long time proven best. 😎🤘
Crossfire used to be this hugely expensive thing, so I flew XM+ for years. I finally switched to Crossfire last year after I got a module and receivers to test out for free and now we have this super cheap way for people to long range their stuff :D Crazy how far we have come recently. We just need cheaper and faster digital and we are golden :D
@@Raven187FPV And smaller! Small enough for all sizes even 65mm whoops! I think DJI is blowing it... Not coming out with that AIO digital board leaked way, Way back in the start of 2020 @ CES.
Sharkbyte just went on sale or closeout or whatever for $99.99 and DJI could pretty much have put an end to SB by coming out with that board, but still nothing. Chip shortage probably delaying it along with COVID-19.
We need some innovation in that DJI digital FPV system! It's stale. 😎🤘
@@Raven187FPV Amen, Brother! :)
Elrs is now currently being used by thousands and just as reliable. Unfortunately setup isn't that easy but if you can figure out betaflight settings you can setup elrs easily.
elrs for the win! its cheaper, open source and better.
Thanks, I’ll buy tracer, it’s more expensive bit faster and it’s from team black ship
@@frontwolffpv6601 it's not faster, it's not cheaper and it's not open source
@@itaysteklov1241 that’s why I’ll buy it
@@frontwolffpv6601 why would you buy it if it's more expensive and less good?
@@itaysteklov1241 because it’s more expensive (just messing with ya man I think elrs is currently the best radio Protocol and also it’s cheapest one)
500hz rc refresh rate vs TBS only 150 to 50hz rc refresh rate
expressLRS is much better than TBS crossfire
I even think it's not a fair competition. LRS can go down to 50hz also true?
Crossfire here could still go another -30dbm which is 10x that range (-130 - -100 = -30. 30/6 = 5. 6dbm diff = 2x range. 5x2 = 10x range). Elrs can only go another 6x (-108 - -90 = -18dbm. 18/6 = 3. 3x2 = 6x).
shouldn't a range test try to see where each one caps out? instead of just turning them both around at the same point
What LQ stand for ?
link quality
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Express lrs at 2.4 on 25mw..... but at 500hz! Feck that's impressive!!!!
3km!
These videos combined with my own experience using this on my Jumper t-lite make me realise what a damned good decision it was to sell all my tbs gear inc my Tango 2 and Tracer for the Jumper and express lrs happymodel.
Mine has been faultless.... and I had a good chunk of money left over after selling my tbs gear.
I’ve gotten 10km on crossfire at 25mw. This guys video is actually bullshit. Not sure what he has to gain from it but it couldn’t be any more misleading.
Express lrs is briliant project but dont be overexcited. At 2,4 GHz when you loose your video you will probably loose your Control also if gone behind a tree or wall. That is why i choose 868 MHz, first i loose video and control link much later
ExpressLRS also works on 868 as well. Most of the ELRS manufactures ship both types.
Elrs 2.4 on 100mw has gone to 23km without failsafe. Wez Varty vid.
I have seen that gear. I was wondering how about telemetry range. In CF telemetry has very limited range. Why I am asking about that. Well this is strategic reason :) If my drone drops far far away, the only way to find it is by setting gps cordinates and driving there. But how I can get those gps cordinates? There are two options, one have them on your google osd, which sucks a lot because it takes a lot of space and I don't care about gps position when pilot drone. Second option, logging in the radio to csv file, but this works until telemetry works. That is the reason I need telemetry range to be equal to control range :)
Unless maybe you have other ideas to solve this problem?
@@kdeclinetostatendeclinetos6707 Check out Crossfire Nano Pro - it has higher telemetry power now.
@@TheVeganarchism This is great news. And price is fine :) Thanks for a tip.
What reviewers usually not say is that express lrs has only 4 channels with full resooution. Arm switch as AUX 1- channel 5 is 2position, then there are 3 position switched and one AUX 8 is 16 position. So if you need your camera tilt and pan you wont do it on express lrs. This sucks a lot for me. Crossfire can do that. So you have 500 Hz radio with 4 full resooution channels vs 50 Hz radio with all full resooution channels. Both have range around 100 km
That's true. I still didn't release a full review / setup guide of the ELRS radio system and it is definitely one of its main down sides.
@@KremerFPV elrs developers are thinking to introduce full resolution channels that will be refreshed at slower rate. It is possible. Lets say at 200hz you can send 4 full resolution channels once every 20th frame so it will result in refresh rate of 10hz for those aux channels. And it will lower refresh rate of basic channels to 199 Hz. I think IT is matter of time only and they will do it 😀
@@KremerFPV on the other hand limited packet size is what makes it work so good 😀 what about telemetry? What is the output power and range of telemetry in elrs? In cf telemetry is transmited at 25 mw.
In ELRS 2.0 extra channels have good resolution. Why I am not switching to elrs from cf, I don't know :) Maybe I don't want put all this work to convert my drones. I do not see a reason to stay with CF.
Ok but what is the conclusion ? Which is better ?
Crossfire being 900MHz is going to have higher latency and larger antennas than 2.4GHz so given that they both can go that far i would pick the one with the lower latency and smaller antennas and faster update rate. Seems like ExpressLRS is the no-brainer here.
ua-cam.com/video/LtZgUJ94eHc/v-deo.html
@@changeagent228 Trappy? Is that you?
@@karoo_bushman6880 Haha I'm actually undecided on ELRS and have Crossfire currently. I'm open though and have been noticing ELRS's performance. More testing is ahead 😄
@@karoo_bushman6880 WV has done lots of good testing on ELRS m.ua-cam.com/users/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=wesley+varty
Crsf for the win
The moxon antenna has twice the gain of the tbs.
I know a guy ho did 53 km on 25 mw crossfire with a diomond antenna without failsafing
Crazy!
Wow 2.4ghz beat 900mhz 😅
Tbs needs to step up I guess
In the open area ok, but the penetration is not the same and crossfire can go to 8km and more
But i confess elrs is a good system
Watch the penetration videos of the 2.4ghz elrs you’ll be speechless
@@terpsquirter7107 4 month ago we don't have the test ,today the elrs and hd zero are demonstrate ,is a good option vs crossfire and dji, but for me is to late , all my quad are dji and tbs
I didn't expect that at all.
TBS ftw
Tbs should add support for express lrs protocol on their modules. Many people would buy tbs for quality hardware
Ok agora um teste com obstáculos prédios, urbano o que acontece kkkkkk
Isn’t that a DJI Fpv feed.? 🤔
Maybe so, but receiver's don't give us our FPV feed, VTX's do. So, it's immaterial.
Yes. Please check the pinned comment.
This range test is not even express lrs is on 500 Hertz and Crossfire is on 50 hertz that affects the minimum sensitivity not to mention Crossfire is 900 MHz versus ELRS 2.4, still love it though and it's nice to see ELRS can win.
More tests will be up soon.
900MHZ will always be able to travel farther the 2.4GHZ. It’s not rocket science or unicorn magic.
U should watch the new elrs 2.4ghz videos it’s beating out crossfire in range and has a higher refresh rate 👊🏼🤟🏼
@@terpsquirter7107 links ?
@@megahertz6787 also this is a really good penetration comparison for you if your a woods flier the penetration of crossfire is nothing compared to elrs especially since you can play with packet rate and power output at 150hz 250mw it’ll go further than any video link
ua-cam.com/video/7Kfz008YdDk/v-deo.html
Seems to outperform the Crossfire in all areas!....
Not sure it is a fair test to run different frequencies at the same power. For example the maximum limit you can run 868Mhz in the UK (apart from on an unusably narrow band) is 25mW, whereas it is permitted to run 2.4Ghz at 100mW, so why cripple the 2.4mHz radio.
Because it is a fair way to compare both systems at a similar power output...come on guy. Kremer gives us the best test comparison videos in the hobby, don't be a goose :D
lol everyone likes to make excuses (anttenna orientation, latency, better camera on the way etc...) for companies that wait unit they are beat to innovate (Fatshark....TBS....Rapidfire), WE GET IT YOU ARE INVESTED, but holy crap maybe instead of giving blindly to them, they might offer more then just rewashed last 4 year tech. Like come on crossfire is the same as it was in 2017...really HDO's 2018...seriously lol and now the 100+ setup it being beat by BetaFPV lol
ExpressLRS is actually just the same hardware as most Brand name radio, even cheaper. But it is very cleverly use small packet and save every ounce of bits in sending the stick data. It is just Lora push to the limit. Technically, if they want, they can do the same with existing hardware. But I don't thinking they would do just for pushing the envelope.
Maybe crossfire has a lot of less problems than elrs to make It work. I have 3 elrs receivers and problems with all of them.....
What issues are you having with them?
@@FailsafeFPV problems before and after flashing. Errors when flashing vía passtrough or uart (can't flash the rx). And errors after flashing vía wifi (no binding and no wifi mode, only a led blinking). I solve it recently, flashing vía passtrough and plugging the lipo when the configurator shows "serial Port.... And flashing only versions from rc9 to back, oficials like 1.0 and newers, doesn't work. And i have 2 ep1 and 1 ep2 Rx, same problem on all, installed on betafpv aio 20a
@@alessdiazlopez54 just back to crossfire. Your problem will be solved
@@bobmahbob now elrs works great. Probably better than crossfire. But elrs is open source and a young link, while crossfire is mature
DJI win
This test was done wrong probably. Look at the concrete wall on front of the pilot. At 3 km drone probably lost visual with tx radio. It is hardly probable that both systems lost signal at 3 km exactly
It needs to be said. Who cares!
Many years ago, I flew FlySky over 2km with directional. Whooptydo. But it failsafes behind a couple houses.
I bought R9M, but FrSky firmware, and inverted and accst sucks.
Don't care about 500Hz.. FlySky/FrSky was like 50? 60? Solid 100Hz is plenty.
Don't care about max power of Crossfire/Tracer/Ghost/R9M. If you have to solder, install heatsink fans.. where is the "upgrade"?
FYI: I'm now running 900Mhz ExpressLRS on everything.
Elrs moxon antenna is literally cheating. It gives bettrr range than stock tango 2. 🫤