Something interesting I noticed. When Fox and Rex were standing side by side, you can tell that Fox’s armour is significantly cleaner. It’s cool character design showing that Rex is on the battlefield much more than Fox
thats because rex is wearing modified clone armor, its mostly phase 1 still with some phase 2 pieces. and so, the armor is older, much older. and like someone said fox is on coruscant most of the time
Actually fox disobeyed the order to kill fives as palpatine ordered him to kill fives yet fox gave him the option to get on his knees and surrender before fives picked up the pistol
@@ruufiss9922 he gave him the chance to surrender if fives had surrendered then fox wouldn’t have shot him and he definitely would have disobeyed orders
Agree since law is the law and its a perfect evidence you cant blame him he is merely doing his job. Plus a Coruscant is the worst place to be place to protect. I hear the even lower lever were so worst that Coruscant guard did not even patrol there and just sent Commandos. Thats how bad their job is.
Ironic how Fox was pretty much the only clone that actually followed orders without question, while literally every other clone has not complied with an order a least once.
@@cowntfranchewlaWhen someone threatens you with a gun, you don’t have time to set to stun. Thats why fives died. Fives got killed cause he was stupid and wanted to point a gun at a armed person
@@AguythatlovescentauraThere was ample time before he grabbed the gun for Fox to set his weapon to stun and stun him. He could've stunned him right away and avoided the entire thing. He chose to wait for fives to do something
@Anakin_skywalkerr_Same with Floyd. Drugs make people erratic and unpredictable. You do not take chance with those people. There are more instances of erratic behavior with more drugs being legalized and therefore more harmful incidents. As much of a libertarian as I am, all drugs that actively change the state of one’s mind should be banned from public use.
Literally any other clone: *Follows orders* People: YESSSSSS!! GOODSOLDIERSFOLLOWORDERSGOODSOLDIERSFOLLOWORDERSGOODSOLDIERSFOLLOWORDERS!! SO BASED!!! Commander Fox: *Follows orders* People: WTF?!?!?!?! HOW CAN HE DO THIS?!?!?? BURN IN HELL!!!!!?
@@Gatesh_0 1. There was an order to kill him. 2. He already threatened the head of the republic that he’s already facing the death penalty. 3. Threat to the physical health of Fox's people. Even the stunning mode seriously affects the nervous system of living beings.
@@Gatesh_0 I like to think that Palpatine told Fox to put their weapons on lethal. Still, the least Fox could've done was taking off his helmet like his brothers did.
I'd say most hated clone is Dogma, a lot of people forget he was the one who killed Krell in the end and only remember him ordering the firing squad to kill Rex and Fives.
@@caitlynvoice5129 the thing about dogma is that he was blind and when he saw the truth he felt regret, fox however doesn't regret not setting his blasters to stun and prefers "shoot to kill" as we saw with Ashoka and fives, glad that Vader snapped his neck, fox and mace windu are truly a hated duo
FYI: Vader kills fox in the comics via neck snap after a mishap with his clones. He was misidentified as a jedi and fox’s unit shot even though fox said not to. Vader was pissed and killed him, didnt even listen to what he had to say
He no longer shot Fives, but a clone who had gone crazy, who at first was talking nonsense about chips, then almost killed the head of the republic, and then completely threatened the physical health of the Fox guys. Let me remind you that even the stunning mode seriously affects the nervous system of living beings.
Fox is one of my favorite clone troopers. The armor he wears is amazing. He followed the law accordingly. He did his job the best he could. Did he make some mistakes that in hindsight were the wrong decisions, yes; but he was the best at his job.
People keep saying that he should has using stun mofe. But, I have evidence that stun mode don't always work too. Season 3 episode 6 Ahsoka got shot by Mandalorian gun turret set to stun mode and still not going down. And episode 7 after that show Aurra Sing got stun by Padme but wake up in a few seconds. It either work or not work or have only a small effect. So yes despite i don't like Fives to get shot myself, it very much justify.
@@sandvichbros1659 police also don't stun mentally ill people who threaten them with a weapon in real life. the goal is to take out the threat to protect anyone around you and your own life. people just like fives a lot and blame fox for it.
So lets go over what Fox does Saves Padme from a Hutt Gives directions to what he thought were regular cleaning droids on a planet that had not been attacked in a thousand years Arrested Ahsoka Tano after seeing on camera what appeared to be her choking a suspect who had unknown supporters Didn't let Anakin in because he was given direct orders not to be his superior Gives an order to kill what appears to be an escaped terrorist/dark Jedi who he had no personal connection to and appeared to have killed his brothers who he worked alongside. Then changed the order to stun when ordered to. Shoots what appears to be a deranged fugitive clone holding a general and clone captain prisoner pointing a pistol at him. Look he might not be the most personable clone trooper but when you actually look at what he's done I don't see him doing anything wrong except following orders and doing what seems like the right thing to do in the situation.
On the second thing Fox does you listed, He legitimately really did call those Droids “Stupid” when in reality he was the one stupid. The entire bombing lead to the entirety of Coruscant’s power, go down, Caused quite a few senators to get killed, led to the republic purchasing 5 million clone troopers which was them even more Bankrupt and poor, and led to the battle of Umbara. If Anakin was Darth Vader sooner, Nothing would really change for Fox aside from the fact that he would still be in his Phase 1 armor when he would be executed. Not that it would really matter because Fox would still end up dying by Anakin/ Darth Vader 2 years later.
@@OutOfIdeas9977Do you think he is omnipotent? We know the droids are sketchy but to everyone else, they aren’t. You think if Yoda or Kenobi or anyone would also know something was off?
At that moment, when Fox shot Fives, the galaxy gained a chance for stability, but the stubborn traitors Jedi once again destroyed everything that led the galaxy to peace.
@@AzulStryer Well, that's understandable. From the point of view of lore, history is written by the victors and the new republic rewrote the entire history, blaming all the misfortune that they mainly created on the Empire, which led the galaxy to stability. From this point of view, you have fallen under propaganda. But from our point of view, you simply divide into good and bad, you were told that the Jedi and the Republic were good and you believed, you were told that the Empire and the Sith were bad and you believed. It’s a pity that reasonable people think exactly the opposite, since they read about the empire, where the empire pursued policies much more freely than the republic, where the Empire eradicated slavery and piracy in worlds where this had not become a tradition for thousands of years. The empire almost completely destroyed the drug trade, but the good rebels released the influential bigwigs of these organizations and, through their fault, the black sun rejoiced. Oh, there are so many problems with the rebels, but we will close our eyes to this, we will close our eyes to the fact that in the empire, taking into account the fact that there was totalitarianism, the worlds were given freedom, they could have a foreign policy, an army and even planetary defensive structures, but why then you don't want to notice it. As I already said, you were told who was bad and who was good and you believed, like dividing children into good and bad, without understanding who actually did more evil.
@@AzulStryer Unfortunately for us, history is written by the victors, and since the republic won, history has been completely rewritten, highlighting the republic as freedom fighters and the empire as oppressors, although this is absolutely not true, the rebels were simply terrarists, and the Empire was a stable state where in the end they lived better than in the republic. The fact is that Fox is a hero and history has been rewritten, that Fox is a traitor.
The thing about Commander Fox is, he didn't face any normal Clone Trooper when he shot Fives. He faced a xlone who by the medical book avted like a crazy person, escaped from Kamino, threatened to kill the Chancellor of the Galactic Republic and then forcefully held a Jefi General and the Captain of the Torrent Company in captivity. He acted completely within protocol and moral sense.
@@stavros1216 Fives never threatened to kill anyone. Palpatine set him up to LOOK as if Fives was threatening him so people wouldn't take him seriously
For doing his job also stun doesn’t always work it also would effect the nerves. It’s like the real police he was reaching and they had to make a fast decision
Alternatively, Fives could have NOT grab his weapon and tried to shoot him or his troops… or tried to kill Palpatine under literally everyones assumption that he’s JUST the Chancellor, and not an evil basterd… or held Rex and Anakin hostage in the first place. There is literally no excuse you could make for Fives dude. Intentions or meaning go out the window, as this was the perfect framing, and that’s the point. Not even Fives’ drugged state cuts it, people with actual common sense know that.😑
I feel bad for Fox. He never got a chance to learn to express himself. His personality never got to develop and deviate from the Kamino standard. If anything, he only became colder, being the head of Palpatine’s corrupt Shocktroopers and Military Police. He’s probably exactly the kind of trooper Palpatine would’ve wanted for every unit. I also love that his Phase 2 armor paint scheme is the same as but completely inverted to the standard Shocktroopers
To me, when Fox shot Fives, it was always another Umbara imo. Fox was no more to blame than any other clone on Umbara, so i never hated his character. I really pitied him tbh.
1. Tarkin is not guilty, he, like Fox, saw the fact of the murder without Ahsoka’s guilt being denied. 2. The clone went crazy, tried to kill a Kamino representative, tried to kill the head of the republic, took a senior Jedi general hostage, and also posed a threat to Fox's guys, this is already a 100% death penalty. In addition, let me remind you that a stun shot flies slower than a standard shot, Fives simply could have time to shoot at Fox or his people, even if it was a shock shot, then shock shots hit the nervous system hard and can be fatal, so a combat shot was the best solution.
@@DX16 Well, yes, the only suspect in the cell, who could have done this, hmhmhmhm, an invisible spirit or Ahsoka, who was alone in the cell, HMMMMMM, WELL NATURALLY AN INVISIBLE SPIRIT. Chall Fox saw the fact of the murder, the only suspect is Ahsoka, who asked to leave them alone, which no longer plays into her creep.
I don’t want to be mean but Fox is a terrible clone. He let those droids into the generator without question and then they blew it up. Then he accused Ahsoka of a crime she clearly didn’t commit. And worst of all he killed Fives, his own brother. I mean what is wrong with this guy. Couldn’t he stunned Fives? But no. He had to kill him because the chancellor said so.
2:50 I feel like Anakin could’ve used the Jedi Mind Trick to control Commander Fox and the Shock Troopers and let him through. It’s been shown that Clones are weak minded, and are susceptible to it.
Fox does not deserve the hate... He was just his job. And fives, well, you dont grab a blaster and aim it at the squad of troopers, with the commander telling him to stand down and not grab the gun.
@@DavidSilver-mr9vz they've got tasers to also bring you down with. At least THEY can't straight up kill you. They're supposed to be powerful enough to temporarily stun you and nothing else
@@eljordinio7647Stun blasts have been shown to be resisted by some characters in some episodes of TCW. Not only that they are far slower to travel. Fives made the mistake to pick up the blaster. That’s the end.
I saw someone saying this: how does LEGO dare to give a side character from marvel a waist cape instead of a beloved clone commander My friend that side character had a support role in 4 movies had her own tv show and was the main antagonist of another movie and is said to keep appearing That clone commander not even has 5 minutes of screen time BLY GOT MORE SCREEN TIME! (Which I love Bly so that’s a win from me) and an appearance in a Vader comic
@@PteranoLiv I'm not a fan of Lego printed waistcapes, even an Airbourne trooper from 212th got it. Characters should be getting waistcapes regardless of screentime they were given. So, I support That X-Men character having a waistcape and also Fox deserving it.
@@Cardo... agreed 100% Fox is an atrocious figure, but saying that he is more popular than friggin scarlet witch is insane, still he deserved better despite being the second biggest jerk in the army
What did he do to Ahsoka? Arrested her at the scene of the crime? Wow, how bad Fox is, he arrested the possible killer of an important prisoner. How bad Fox is, he shot a clone, who first went crazy and started repeating something about non-existent chips, inappropriately attacked the head of the republic, and then threatened the physical health of Fox's guys. Let me remind you that even the stunning mode seriously affects the nervous system of living beings.
@@josuesosaa7 But the Chancellor most likely told Fox to execute Fives so he wouldn’t tell the Jedi council about what his true intentions were. A lot of characters throughout the Clone Wars had opportunities to reveal who the Sith Lord really was and what he was planning, but most of them either fought for themselves, kept their mouths shut or nobody would’ve believed them.
Spoilers if you haven’t seen the comic: In Star Wars: Darth Vader #10 (2018) Or in other words, in 19 BBY, he obeys Orders 66 without Question and shot those Jedi traitors down cold, and he and his men secure the Jedi temple. He meets up and talks to Darth Vader about what he and his men did during Order 66. Darth Vader tells Commander Fox to give him his description which he ended up basically disobeyed Vader’s order. So anyways, the Coruscant Guard clones end up finding and started to think that Darth Vader was a Jedi which they end up shooting at Vader. Fox was just standing when all of a sudden he realized that his men were shooting at him. He ordered his men to go to a specific location and to stop firing at Darth Vader. Darth Vader asks Fox as to why he didn’t give his men his description . Fox was shaking and nervous. Fox was trying to explain as to why he didn’t give His men his description but while he was trying to explain to Vader, he snaps Commander Fox’s neck killing him instantly. There’s a lesson to learn from Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker don’t make mistakes thrice 1: Arresting and trying to Kill Ahoska 2: Killing Anakin’s/Vaders men (Fives) And 3: Not giving your men His description. It’s debatable if CC-1010/Commander Fox deserved his death/execution or not, but to me, he did.
It's hard to hate Fox, because he was basically in "factory mode" through his entire career and was never given the chance to develop his own personality or interests. He was nowhere near as bad as Faie or Bacara, who were given the same freedom as Rex and the other clones out in the field, but showed zero compassion for anyone
He never worked with Jedi he didn’t get the chance to have the decision making Rex had he only was really around the chancellor, senate, and other clones he doesn’t really get what all the other got
I really think fox is over hated 1 the droid who shut down the power they basically fooled everyone and they had convincing ID so can’t blame him 2 the reason he arrested Asoka was because her hands were up like she was force chocking so can’t blame him 3 the reason he shot fives is because palpaten probably ordered him to
Fitting that Anakin ( vader) will kill commander Fox without though in the comics for shooting him by mistake when the order was "fire on any jedi escaping" though clones didn't really get the memo that the red lightsaber was empire . Haha to them lightsaber = Jedi
Fox isn’t as bad as ppl make him. Honestly the only times he was definitely wrong is when he was chasing Ahsoka in the hallway and tried to kill her with lethal bolts. That and forcing Fives to panic and not stunning him. Like a lot of irl cops, he’s over zealous and reactive, but he’s not a monster
What was wrong with him when he fired live fire at Ahsoka? From his perspective, it all looked like Ahsoka first strangled an important suspect, then ran away and caused physical harm to a squad of guards, and then killed several other soldiers in the corridor. The use of combat weapons is completely justified. Also with Fives, the stun round travels slower than the combat round. When Fives took the gun and Fox fired the stun, during this period of time Fives could also have time to shoot. Even if Fives fired a stun gun, it would have a strong impact on the nervous system of the creature it was caught in, even to the point of death.
@@chopper3940You’re right about the Ahsoka case the more I think about it. However not so much with Fives. Fox knew fives was in mental turmoil and was unstable, rushing someone like that is stupid. He could have easily snuck up behind him and stunned him while Fives was talking to Anakin and Rex, but he didn’t. In all his genius, he bum rushed Fives causing him to panic and act irrationally. Ask anyone from law enforcement, what Fox did was beyond moronic. Ofc most fans agree palpatine gave him orders to shoot fives (for obvious reasons). So this automatically assumes he had Fives well being in mind to begin with, he didn’t.
@@Crimsonlupus, it’s not his job to care what state of mind he’s in. A rogue clone takes a general and a captain hostage, both highly decorated, and then when you confront him he reaches for a blaster. That’s grounds to be shot. “aSk AnYbOdY iN iRl LaW eNfOrCeMeNt.” This isn’t real life and also isn’t really law enforcement, this is the military. Different rules apply, especially to clones.
@@ChickenLiver911You do realize the coruscant guard is basically military police right? You’re missing the point just for the sake of arguing. I’m making the connection between real life and fantasy because the same logic applies. You don’t bum rush ppl in an ill mental state, thats moronic. If you have the chance to do a non lethal take down, you should. Which ironically fox did try to do, (executed horribly) but he didn’t just pop fives on sight. Where he went wrong is when he literally took all his men and ran at him, keep in mind fives already didn’t trust anyone close to palpatines authority, hence why he was talking to Rex and Anakin. All fox could have done is quietly gotten closer and stunned him. That would have been the safest and most logical option. Again, the irl connection/logic applies. No rational mind bum rushes ppl like that, it’s stupid.
Fox hate makes no sense, considering he's only doing his job and probably has a very difficult job. He killed Fives because he had to. Had Anakin not yelled at Fives when he brought up the Chancellor, chances are Fives wouldn't have acted the way he did. He went after Ahsoka because in Fox's mind, she killed his men--his brothers. Cut my guy some slack, he is not the worse character out there.
I always felt kinda bad for Fox. He legitimately thought what he was doing was right he was just so brainwashed by Palpatine’s propaganda (or perhaps he had an advanced inhibitior chip like Crosshair) that he acted against his own good and the good of his brothers
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Something interesting I noticed. When Fox and Rex were standing side by side, you can tell that Fox’s armour is significantly cleaner.
It’s cool character design showing that Rex is on the battlefield much more than Fox
that's the purpose of the coruscant guard since they're more of a police force and body guards to senators
thats because rex is wearing modified clone armor, its mostly phase 1 still with some phase 2 pieces. and so, the armor is older, much older. and like someone said fox is on coruscant most of the time
Actually fox disobeyed the order to kill fives as palpatine ordered him to kill fives yet fox gave him the option to get on his knees and surrender before fives picked up the pistol
@@thomasbootham2707 well he didnt disobey it if he still killed him
@@ruufiss9922 he gave him the chance to surrender if fives had surrendered then fox wouldn’t have shot him and he definitely would have disobeyed orders
“can’t say I blame you commander tano, but all the same you’re under arrest”
how can you hate against such perfect reasoning
And people still think he had a bias against ahsoka lol
Agree since law is the law and its a perfect evidence you cant blame him he is merely doing his job. Plus a Coruscant is the worst place to be place to protect. I hear the even lower lever were so worst that Coruscant guard did not even patrol there and just sent Commandos. Thats how bad their job is.
@@DreadTheMaximus nope the lower levels are so bad they had their own separate police force
@@LucyWest370 No they legit sent commandos to take care of any infiltrators who were at the lower lvls
@@DreadTheMaximus, nope, they was sending Bad Batch to low levels
What’s interesting is that fox is never seen without his helmet on, so it kinda dehumanizes him
He takes off his helmet after shooting fives.
@@ponchopyro3314 It's only his men
I saw a fan art of him with strict haircut and a straight little beard on his chin.😂
I wonder what he looks like
@@shovelmp4971I imagine he looks like a Shiny. Straight regulation, since he never learned to express himself.
Ironic how Fox was pretty much the only clone that actually followed orders without question, while literally every other clone has not complied with an order a least once.
He doesn’t work with Jedi therefore they don’t inspire creative thinking among the Coruscant guard
And he died by not following orders…
Death: because He tried to kill Vader because he mistook him for a jedi
@@LuiseT-l7f that wasn’t fox, it was some human wannabe cg recruit who got fox killed.
He’s also the only major clone who we never see take his helmet off
Bruh I never realized how his Phase 2 armor is color inverted shock trooper armor.
It's the reason his armour is my favourite, even though Kix is my favourite Clone
I was today years old when I realized he said "Set weapons to stun, I want her alive" as he said as Vader
But he didn't shock fives...
@@tobiaszkukotko8655 fives had a gun and hostages to say he should have shocked him is stupid
I used to dislike fox but after watching this he was pretty much made out to be the bad guy when he was just trying to do his job
if this was the real world yes it would be legally justified, but fox had plenty of time to set his gun to stun
@@cowntfranchewlaWhen someone threatens you with a gun, you don’t have time to set to stun. Thats why fives died. Fives got killed cause he was stupid and wanted to point a gun at a armed person
Anakin hated him lol
@@AguythatlovescentauraThere was ample time before he grabbed the gun for Fox to set his weapon to stun and stun him. He could've stunned him right away and avoided the entire thing. He chose to wait for fives to do something
@Anakin_skywalkerr_Same with Floyd. Drugs make people erratic and unpredictable. You do not take chance with those people. There are more instances of erratic behavior with more drugs being legalized and therefore more harmful incidents. As much of a libertarian as I am, all drugs that actively change the state of one’s mind should be banned from public use.
Seeing the incident with Ashoka but purely from Fox's perspective alone... he did pretty much nothing but the right things in that
You know those clone guards started crapping their pants when Anakin looked like he was gonna throw hands over seeing Ashoka
I’m surprised those hallways don’t have security cameras
Like in the real world there's a good chance that hallway would be covered by a camera. So these guys have no excuse at all.
Literally any other clone: *Follows orders*
People: YESSSSSS!! GOODSOLDIERSFOLLOWORDERSGOODSOLDIERSFOLLOWORDERSGOODSOLDIERSFOLLOWORDERS!! SO BASED!!!
Commander Fox: *Follows orders*
People: WTF?!?!?!?! HOW CAN HE DO THIS?!?!?? BURN IN HELL!!!!!?
All because the others didn't kill a fan favourite character.
I think that people have to accept someone had to kill fives otherwise it wouldn’t have fit with the rest of the movies
In the sense of storytelling, yes. But i can still blame him for killing fives while he could set the gun to stun him.
@@Gatesh_0 1. There was an order to kill him.
2. He already threatened the head of the republic that he’s already facing the death penalty.
3. Threat to the physical health of Fox's people. Even the stunning mode seriously affects the nervous system of living beings.
@@Gatesh_0and than what
@@Gatesh_0 I like to think that Palpatine told Fox to put their weapons on lethal. Still, the least Fox could've done was taking off his helmet like his brothers did.
@@Gatesh_0 Blaster* Not a gun...
POV: you managed to become the most hated clone with less than 10 minutes of screentime
For doing your job
@@w1ndgeneral226we need a star wars rapper to make a song called "f*ck tha courascant guard"
@@w1ndgeneral226 Good soldiers follow orders
I'd say most hated clone is Dogma, a lot of people forget he was the one who killed Krell in the end and only remember him ordering the firing squad to kill Rex and Fives.
@@caitlynvoice5129 the thing about dogma is that he was blind and when he saw the truth he felt regret, fox however doesn't regret not setting his blasters to stun and prefers "shoot to kill" as we saw with Ashoka and fives, glad that Vader snapped his neck, fox and mace windu are truly a hated duo
FYI: Vader kills fox in the comics via neck snap after a mishap with his clones. He was misidentified as a jedi and fox’s unit shot even though fox said not to. Vader was pissed and killed him, didnt even listen to what he had to say
Because the comic was created purely as fanservice for you haters as why else would Fox act out of character?
No, he gets killed because Vader gets revealed to be anakin and Vader throws them out of the ship out of anger
@@williamnguyen8663 Nah, Vader killed him BEFORE he entered the ship.
that was decanonized lol
@@goldenretrieversarethebest8119 no it wasn't lol
“ I hate him because he shot Fives” My brother in the republic he was grabbing for his weapon and he told him to get on the ground.
Stun mode exists
Palpatine's orders too @@martinmiklas7478
He no longer shot Fives, but a clone who had gone crazy, who at first was talking nonsense about chips, then almost killed the head of the republic, and then completely threatened the physical health of the Fox guys. Let me remind you that even the stunning mode seriously affects the nervous system of living beings.
@@martinmiklas7478 If Fives had not been killed off the prequel trilogy would have not made sense.
@@chopper3940 Curious how there where republican guards with Palpatine when he threatend fvies, it almost seems like they where in on it
4:46 I understand that he could’ve stunned him but he literally said „don’t do it soldier“ several times while Fives was drawing a gun
I looked at the footage twice, He only said “Don’t do it soldier!” Once.
Fives was drugged and couldn't control himself
It's not like Rex tried to hide them anywhere. He literally left them in the open
@@MiloTheDumbstill, simply stunning him would have sufficed
@eljordinio7647 yeah ik so I'm saying it's not fives' fault
Fox is one of my favorite clone troopers. The armor he wears is amazing. He followed the law accordingly. He did his job the best he could. Did he make some mistakes that in hindsight were the wrong decisions, yes; but he was the best at his job.
I believe he was one of the best clone commanders, he didn’t want to shoot Fives he gave him an opportunity to surrender
People keep saying that he should has using stun mofe. But, I have evidence that stun mode don't always work too. Season 3 episode 6 Ahsoka got shot by Mandalorian gun turret set to stun mode and still not going down. And episode 7 after that show Aurra Sing got stun by Padme but wake up in a few seconds. It either work or not work or have only a small effect. So yes despite i don't like Fives to get shot myself, it very much justify.
ikr. everyone hates him but he's really just following orders. i respect his loyalty to the republic.
@@sandvichbros1659 police also don't stun mentally ill people who threaten them with a weapon in real life. the goal is to take out the threat to protect anyone around you and your own life. people just like fives a lot and blame fox for it.
I don’t think he was the best at his job.
3:20. Geez. Barris sliced those three all the way through. Look at the disembodiment.
And that is the child-friendly version.
i've never understood the hate for fox. his loyalty was to the republic, not to the Jedi. i respect that.
My boy does not deserve the hate
Yes ☹️
@angeligiacomo2292 “he WoULd TaZe ThE PErSOn RAisInG a gUN”
@angeligiacomo2292 commander Fox is just a puppet being controlled by palpatine
Yeah I like him too
If it weren't for Fox, they could have learned the truth about the inhibitor chips earlier
So lets go over what Fox does
Saves Padme from a Hutt
Gives directions to what he thought were regular cleaning droids on a planet that had not been attacked in a thousand years
Arrested Ahsoka Tano after seeing on camera what appeared to be her choking a suspect who had unknown supporters
Didn't let Anakin in because he was given direct orders not to be his superior
Gives an order to kill what appears to be an escaped terrorist/dark Jedi who he had no personal connection to and appeared to have killed his brothers who he worked alongside. Then changed the order to stun when ordered to.
Shoots what appears to be a deranged fugitive clone holding a general and clone captain prisoner pointing a pistol at him.
Look he might not be the most personable clone trooper but when you actually look at what he's done I don't see him doing anything wrong except following orders and doing what seems like the right thing to do in the situation.
On the second thing Fox does you listed, He legitimately really did call those Droids “Stupid” when in reality he was the one stupid. The entire bombing lead to the entirety of Coruscant’s power, go down, Caused quite a few senators to get killed, led to the republic purchasing 5 million clone troopers which was them even more Bankrupt and poor, and led to the battle of Umbara. If Anakin was Darth Vader sooner, Nothing would really change for Fox aside from the fact that he would still be in his Phase 1 armor when he would be executed. Not that it would really matter because Fox would still end up dying by Anakin/ Darth Vader 2 years later.
@@OutOfIdeas9977How was Fox supposed to know the droids were going to blow some stuff up?
@@OutOfIdeas9977Do you think he is omnipotent? We know the droids are sketchy but to everyone else, they aren’t.
You think if Yoda or Kenobi or anyone would also know something was off?
@@Justin-ui5ti Maybe.
@@OutOfIdeas9977 Considering they missed the literal Sith Lord in front of them kinda makes me doubt that.
Seeing it from his perspective makes this so much more reasonable. He doesn't get enough credit and people expect him to know everything
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2:52 Fox be like: Ya know what, take it up with my supervisor.
After all he was such a cool guy, you just had to know him better
Fox is so cool tbh
Real
totally
The moment he shot Fives, the galaxy became doomed.
At that moment, when Fox shot Fives, the galaxy gained a chance for stability, but the stubborn traitors Jedi once again destroyed everything that led the galaxy to peace.
@@chopper3940 Unfortunately for you, history will not see it that way
@@AzulStryer Well, that's understandable.
From the point of view of lore, history is written by the victors and the new republic rewrote the entire history, blaming all the misfortune that they mainly created on the Empire, which led the galaxy to stability. From this point of view, you have fallen under propaganda.
But from our point of view, you simply divide into good and bad, you were told that the Jedi and the Republic were good and you believed, you were told that the Empire and the Sith were bad and you believed. It’s a pity that reasonable people think exactly the opposite, since they read about the empire, where the empire pursued policies much more freely than the republic, where the Empire eradicated slavery and piracy in worlds where this had not become a tradition for thousands of years. The empire almost completely destroyed the drug trade, but the good rebels released the influential bigwigs of these organizations and, through their fault, the black sun rejoiced. Oh, there are so many problems with the rebels, but we will close our eyes to this, we will close our eyes to the fact that in the empire, taking into account the fact that there was totalitarianism, the worlds were given freedom, they could have a foreign policy, an army and even planetary defensive structures, but why then you don't want to notice it. As I already said, you were told who was bad and who was good and you believed, like dividing children into good and bad, without understanding who actually did more evil.
@@chopper3940 Fox is the savior of the galaxy. Praise be Fox
@@AzulStryer Unfortunately for us, history is written by the victors, and since the republic won, history has been completely rewritten, highlighting the republic as freedom fighters and the empire as oppressors, although this is absolutely not true, the rebels were simply terrarists, and the Empire was a stable state where in the end they lived better than in the republic.
The fact is that Fox is a hero and history has been rewritten, that Fox is a traitor.
The thing about Commander Fox is, he didn't face any normal Clone Trooper when he shot Fives.
He faced a xlone who by the medical book avted like a crazy person, escaped from Kamino, threatened to kill the Chancellor of the Galactic Republic and then forcefully held a Jefi General and the Captain of the Torrent Company in captivity.
He acted completely within protocol and moral sense.
@@stavros1216 Fives never threatened to kill anyone. Palpatine set him up to LOOK as if Fives was threatening him so people wouldn't take him seriously
4:49 congratulations, now you are the most hated clone by fans!
For doing his job also stun doesn’t always work it also would effect the nerves. It’s like the real police he was reaching and they had to make a fast decision
with not even 5 minutess of screen time
Not all the fans hate him
Edit: I personally don’t hate him, but I can understand why some do even if I don’t agree with their reasoning
@@Haven_Security_PMC you could literally say the same about the kill setting
Stunning would have been just as effective to bring fives down
'fox being scripted as a bad guy for 4:55' could have also been the title of this video.
I love how everyone just stands and shoots at each other instead of seeking cover.
True
I think Fox was there to show us the difference in personnality between clones who worked under Jedi Generals and those who didn't.
Wow, Fox, you had the jump on the suspect and had him out numbered. He could've just stunned or shot him from cover. But no had to run at him yelling.
Alternatively, Fives could have NOT grab his weapon and tried to shoot him or his troops… or tried to kill Palpatine under literally everyones assumption that he’s JUST the Chancellor, and not an evil basterd… or held Rex and Anakin hostage in the first place. There is literally no excuse you could make for Fives dude. Intentions or meaning go out the window, as this was the perfect framing, and that’s the point. Not even Fives’ drugged state cuts it, people with actual common sense know that.😑
This is a great video!
Any other clone: *Follows order*
Fox: *Follows order*
Community: We don't do that here
People seem to forget the fact that all clones are just Jango Fett with different character development.
I’m starting to feel like under that mask doesn’t lie a man but a monster……
I feel bad for Fox. He never got a chance to learn to express himself. His personality never got to develop and deviate from the Kamino standard. If anything, he only became colder, being the head of Palpatine’s corrupt Shocktroopers and Military Police.
He’s probably exactly the kind of trooper Palpatine would’ve wanted for every unit.
I also love that his Phase 2 armor paint scheme is the same as but completely inverted to the standard Shocktroopers
You know for such an advanced society you’d think they’d have security cameras in jails
Are there air conditioners?
Phase 1 0:00
Phase 1:06
To me, when Fox shot Fives, it was always another Umbara imo. Fox was no more to blame than any other clone on Umbara, so i never hated his character. I really pitied him tbh.
Look, I understand he was just doing his job, but I forgive the fact that his ONLY CONFIRMED KILL IN THE ENTIRE DUCKING SHOW WAS ANOTHER CLONE.
He is so overhated!
Fox is awesome
Happy new year to new Republic.😂
I like fox he is my second favorite clone
Same bro! My first is Kix
I know that he has the same face of every other clone, but fox never took off his helmet, neither when he killed fives.
Happy New Year 🎆
Fox is good soldier
I don’t think people understand that someone had to kill fives, it wouldn’t have made any sense if he lived.
@@hampter1534 at least if he did, the republic would have been better equipped to handle Order 66 and the mutiny of their own army
Commander Fox was right in arresting Ahsoka, it was Tarkin who is to blame. As for Fives, bro literally could’ve just stunned him
1. Tarkin is not guilty, he, like Fox, saw the fact of the murder without Ahsoka’s guilt being denied.
2. The clone went crazy, tried to kill a Kamino representative, tried to kill the head of the republic, took a senior Jedi general hostage, and also posed a threat to Fox's guys, this is already a 100% death penalty. In addition, let me remind you that a stun shot flies slower than a standard shot, Fives simply could have time to shoot at Fox or his people, even if it was a shock shot, then shock shots hit the nervous system hard and can be fatal, so a combat shot was the best solution.
Fives would've probably died anyways even if Fox stunned him
@@chopper3940fr Fives raised his weapon and could’ve shot Fox or one of his teammates, he had no choice but to eliminate the threat
@@josuesosaa7 Why did you write this to me, I already know it
@@chopper3940Because he agree on your opinion?
Mr Gilbert: Wel Commander Fox, Think we better go and see the Head
Fox did nothin wrong, and i will happily argue about it
All he did was his job
Yea it’s true unfortunately but we still don’t have to like it 😅😅also I like his armors color layout
Fox clearly was stupid to not think that Ahsoka killing a suspect, in a prison cell, after being left alone with her.... isn't stupid in itself
@@DX16 Well, yes, the only suspect in the cell, who could have done this, hmhmhmhm, an invisible spirit or Ahsoka, who was alone in the cell, HMMMMMM, WELL NATURALLY AN INVISIBLE SPIRIT. Chall Fox saw the fact of the murder, the only suspect is Ahsoka, who asked to leave them alone, which no longer plays into her creep.
@@chopper3940 Does he think she's completely stupid ?
2:15 it is interesting that they are still using those long blasters you didn't really see them too much at the point in the war.
that roll at the beginning lmfao
2:59 The clones are aware of Anakin’s temper to the point that Fox flinches from behind safety glass
Best clone ever.
Ngl his armor is so freaking cool
Dude looks cool
After what Fox did to Anakin’s friends, it was no doubt Ani was going to snap his neck the next time he messes with him
I don’t want to be mean but Fox is a terrible clone. He let those droids into the generator without question and then they blew it up. Then he accused Ahsoka of a crime she clearly didn’t commit. And worst of all he killed Fives, his own brother. I mean what is wrong with this guy. Couldn’t he stunned Fives? But no. He had to kill him because the chancellor said so.
Commander fox doesn’t deserve the hate
2:50
I feel like Anakin could’ve used the Jedi Mind Trick to control Commander Fox and the Shock Troopers and let him through. It’s been shown that Clones are weak minded, and are susceptible to it.
Fox does not deserve the hate... He was just his job. And fives, well, you dont grab a blaster and aim it at the squad of troopers, with the commander telling him to stand down and not grab the gun.
You also don’t aim a gun at the police and expect them to do nothing
@@DavidSilver-mr9vz they've got tasers to also bring you down with. At least THEY can't straight up kill you. They're supposed to be powerful enough to temporarily stun you and nothing else
@@eljordinio7647Stun blasts have been shown to be resisted by some characters in some episodes of TCW.
Not only that they are far slower to travel.
Fives made the mistake to pick up the blaster.
That’s the end.
I want more stuff with Fox
I wonder if it’s canon that anakin remembered fox not allowing him in to the holding cell and that’s part of the reason why he killed fox as Vader
I don't think so, but I'm not sure.
bro is the most hated commander
I love how it goes:
“Sorry General, Admiral Tarkin has order no one be let in”
Dude, he’s a General, he outranks the man by a mile
tbh he’s one of my favourite clones
The difference between Fox and Rex? Good soldiers follow orders, but the best soldiers do what is right no matter what.
Difference between Fox and Rex
Rex - betrayed the state for the sake of traitors
Fox - was the most loyal soldier to the state
@@chopper3940yes
Fox did what’s right.
Fox did what was right based on the information he had to work with
3:05 how likely do you think it is that Vader didn’t kill him because he was mistaken for a Jedi but for his padawan?
1:24 I never saw this scene, I initially Thought he Was refusing to Let Ahsoka in Giving the Fact Jedi were killed in the Jedi Temple Kaboom
3:29 dude was just based af
So goated
I saw someone saying this: how does LEGO dare to give a side character from marvel a waist cape instead of a beloved clone commander
My friend that side character had a support role in 4 movies had her own tv show and was the main antagonist of another movie and is said to keep appearing
That clone commander not even has 5 minutes of screen time BLY GOT MORE SCREEN TIME! (Which I love Bly so that’s a win from me) and an appearance in a Vader comic
@@PteranoLiv I'm not a fan of Lego printed waistcapes, even an Airbourne trooper from 212th got it. Characters should be getting waistcapes regardless of screentime they were given. So, I support That X-Men character having a waistcape and also Fox deserving it.
@@Cardo... agreed 100% Fox is an atrocious figure, but saying that he is more popular than friggin scarlet witch is insane, still he deserved better despite being the second biggest jerk in the army
I started hating Commander Fox after what he did to Ahsoka and then Shot Arc Trooper Fives in cold blood, but I always liked his armor.
absolutely the only reason i liked him was the colour of his armor
What did he do to Ahsoka? Arrested her at the scene of the crime? Wow, how bad Fox is, he arrested the possible killer of an important prisoner.
How bad Fox is, he shot a clone, who first went crazy and started repeating something about non-existent chips, inappropriately attacked the head of the republic, and then threatened the physical health of Fox's guys. Let me remind you that even the stunning mode seriously affects the nervous system of living beings.
He didn’t shoot Fives in “cold blood”, he told fives to surrender then Fives picked up a blaster and pointed it at him
@@josuesosaa7 But the Chancellor most likely told Fox to execute Fives so he wouldn’t tell the Jedi council about what his true intentions were. A lot of characters throughout the Clone Wars had opportunities to reveal who the Sith Lord really was and what he was planning, but most of them either fought for themselves, kept their mouths shut or nobody would’ve believed them.
@@matthewcrawford4177 Fox told Fives to stand down he didn’t want to shoot Fives, he only shot him until he raised his weapon at him
Spoilers if you haven’t seen the comic:
In Star Wars: Darth Vader #10 (2018)
Or in other words, in 19 BBY, he obeys Orders 66 without Question and shot those Jedi traitors down cold, and he and his men secure the Jedi temple. He meets up and talks to Darth Vader about what he and his men did during Order 66. Darth Vader tells Commander Fox to give him his description which he ended up basically disobeyed Vader’s order. So anyways, the Coruscant Guard clones end up finding and started to think that Darth Vader was a Jedi which they end up shooting at Vader. Fox was just standing when all of a sudden he realized that his men were shooting at him. He ordered his men to go to a specific location and to stop firing at Darth Vader. Darth Vader asks Fox as to why he didn’t give his men his description . Fox was shaking and nervous. Fox was trying to explain as to why he didn’t give His men his description but while he was trying to explain to Vader, he snaps Commander Fox’s neck killing him instantly.
There’s a lesson to learn from Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker don’t make mistakes thrice
1: Arresting and trying to Kill Ahoska
2: Killing Anakin’s/Vaders men (Fives)
And 3: Not giving your men His description.
It’s debatable if CC-1010/Commander Fox deserved his death/execution or not, but to me, he did.
He didn’t he was following orders like every other clone
Palpatine: Commander Fox, Execute Order 66
Commander Fox: It’ll be my pleasure Lord Sidious
It's hard to hate Fox, because he was basically in "factory mode" through his entire career and was never given the chance to develop his own personality or interests. He was nowhere near as bad as Faie or Bacara, who were given the same freedom as Rex and the other clones out in the field, but showed zero compassion for anyone
Fox look cool like his phase 2 kit his color also my favorite and yes about the fives is okay
most disliked clone in clone wars history
1 04 How that fool got named Fox is beyond me.
Hes the most hated clone but for some reason i actually like him!
Same I also love spider man noir
@@MrLazeeProductionsOFFICIALsame here
Он просто был верен своему делу, как солдат. Будете ли вы осуждать его за это?
No! It wasn’t Fox who was evil, it was the republic
2:55 How Dare You?!! He Is You're General!! Let Him In!! 😡😡😡😡
He never worked with Jedi he didn’t get the chance to have the decision making Rex had he only was really around the chancellor, senate, and other clones he doesn’t really get what all the other got
i dont understand fox hate, he didnt do anything wrong, just the wrong place at the wrong time.
cause bro killed fives. he should’ve set the gun to stun atleast.
@@tita6517 if a person points a gun at the cop, does the cop taze the guy? no, the cop shoots the guy.
I really think fox is over hated
1 the droid who shut down the power they basically fooled everyone and they had convincing ID so can’t blame him
2 the reason he arrested Asoka was because her hands were up like she was force chocking so can’t blame him
3 the reason he shot fives is because palpaten probably ordered him to
And Fives pointed a gun at him
He said bumblebee
Fitting that Anakin ( vader) will kill commander Fox without though in the comics for shooting him by mistake when the order was "fire on any jedi escaping" though clones didn't really get the memo that the red lightsaber was empire . Haha to them lightsaber = Jedi
Fox isn’t as bad as ppl make him. Honestly the only times he was definitely wrong is when he was chasing Ahsoka in the hallway and tried to kill her with lethal bolts. That and forcing Fives to panic and not stunning him. Like a lot of irl cops, he’s over zealous and reactive, but he’s not a monster
What was wrong with him when he fired live fire at Ahsoka?
From his perspective, it all looked like Ahsoka first strangled an important suspect, then ran away and caused physical harm to a squad of guards, and then killed several other soldiers in the corridor. The use of combat weapons is completely justified.
Also with Fives, the stun round travels slower than the combat round. When Fives took the gun and Fox fired the stun, during this period of time Fives could also have time to shoot. Even if Fives fired a stun gun, it would have a strong impact on the nervous system of the creature it was caught in, even to the point of death.
@@chopper3940You’re right about the Ahsoka case the more I think about it. However not so much with Fives. Fox knew fives was in mental turmoil and was unstable, rushing someone like that is stupid. He could have easily snuck up behind him and stunned him while Fives was talking to Anakin and Rex, but he didn’t. In all his genius, he bum rushed Fives causing him to panic and act irrationally. Ask anyone from law enforcement, what Fox did was beyond moronic. Ofc most fans agree palpatine gave him orders to shoot fives (for obvious reasons). So this automatically assumes he had Fives well being in mind to begin with, he didn’t.
@@Crimsonlupus Well, you answered your own questions yourself. The main reason Fox killed Fyaz was because of an order.
@@Crimsonlupus, it’s not his job to care what state of mind he’s in. A rogue clone takes a general and a captain hostage, both highly decorated, and then when you confront him he reaches for a blaster. That’s grounds to be shot. “aSk AnYbOdY iN iRl LaW eNfOrCeMeNt.” This isn’t real life and also isn’t really law enforcement, this is the military. Different rules apply, especially to clones.
@@ChickenLiver911You do realize the coruscant guard is basically military police right? You’re missing the point just for the sake of arguing. I’m making the connection between real life and fantasy because the same logic applies. You don’t bum rush ppl in an ill mental state, thats moronic. If you have the chance to do a non lethal take down, you should. Which ironically fox did try to do, (executed horribly) but he didn’t just pop fives on sight. Where he went wrong is when he literally took all his men and ran at him, keep in mind fives already didn’t trust anyone close to palpatines authority, hence why he was talking to Rex and Anakin. All fox could have done is quietly gotten closer and stunned him. That would have been the safest and most logical option. Again, the irl connection/logic applies. No rational mind bum rushes ppl like that, it’s stupid.
A bit disappointing to not see fox’s face lol.
2:40 what is it episode
@@isimsizanimator1291 The Clone Wars season 5 episode 18 Jedi, who knew too much
Fox hate makes no sense, considering he's only doing his job and probably has a very difficult job. He killed Fives because he had to. Had Anakin not yelled at Fives when he brought up the Chancellor, chances are Fives wouldn't have acted the way he did. He went after Ahsoka because in Fox's mind, she killed his men--his brothers. Cut my guy some slack, he is not the worse character out there.
I know what he did but like… I honestly really like Fox.
Yeah the chest plate definitely isn't pink that's for sure
I bet he would of liked wolf
Is it true that Vader killed Fox?
Yeah, that is his canon fate.
Fox gets too much hate
They should’ve included a scene in bad batch where he just gets shot a bunch. I know he got his neck snapped in a comic, but come on.
I always felt kinda bad for Fox. He legitimately thought what he was doing was right he was just so brainwashed by Palpatine’s propaganda (or perhaps he had an advanced inhibitior chip like Crosshair) that he acted against his own good and the good of his brothers
MAN FOX HAS THE BALLS TO STAND UP TO SKYWALKER