How a typo in Terraria means this Skeleton can ignore dodges

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  • How a typo in Terraria means this Skeleton can ignore dodges
    it's always the empress of light!
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    Credit to Kellam Yoshikage (amaboye) in #video-suggestions for the idea!
    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro: the undodgeability mechanic
    0:52 Uh oh, something's wrong... why the hell are the daytime Skeletrons dodgeable?!
    1:10 The code behind undodgeability (Empress & Dungeon Guardian, normal)
    1:44 Skeletron's code
    2:04 Oops someone forgot an r
    2:26 How the Skeleton can "steal" Skeletron's mechanics and ignore a dodge
    3:00 Oops someone forgot a prime
    3:17 Outro
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    How a typo in Terraria means this Skeleton can ignore dodges
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  • @johnsnail
    @johnsnail 17 днів тому +128

    Skeletron's ID name isn't NPCID.Skeletron, it's NPCID.SkeletronHead. This helper class wasn't always used in the vanilla source; one of the programmers was probably tired and changed the magic number to the wrong constant.

    • @renakunisaki
      @renakunisaki 17 днів тому +3

      Do we know for sure what it was in the original code?

    • @johnsnail
      @johnsnail 17 днів тому +6

      @@renakunisaki Well I looked at the code lol. The switch case checks for ID 21; ID 21 is Skeleton, ID 35 is SkeletronHead.

    • @chlorobyte
      @chlorobyte 16 днів тому +4

      @@johnsnail the compiler will most likely reduce enums to the constants themselves, we won't know if they worked with the raw IDs or the enum

    • @johnsnail
      @johnsnail 16 днів тому +6

      @@chlorobyte Devs confirmed they do, and the two numbers being wildly different makes that clear on its own.

    • @Terraw
      @Terraw  7 днів тому +10

      My bad on forgetting that; the dev typo is still the likely case regardless.

  • @Terraw
    @Terraw  17 днів тому +1296

    This will basically never happen in a real run but it'd be *really* funny if some 1HP hardcore run died to this

    • @Kepplar
      @Kepplar 17 днів тому +64

      It would be funny history that a man in full holy hallowed armor died to some random skeleton.

    • @Meowlegend7
      @Meowlegend7 17 днів тому +7

      @@Terraw sad*

    • @gdstar6917
      @gdstar6917 17 днів тому +13

      @@Meowlegend7 both

    • @Adventurer32
      @Adventurer32 17 днів тому +30

      Most Hardcore runs die to overconfidence.. so the Skeleton possessing this power could ironically let it work.

    • @smiley_gamig
      @smiley_gamig 17 днів тому +5

      terra will you make a video about the zenith in 3 seconds bug with the achievement?

  • @bluks384
    @bluks384 17 днів тому +907

    I read the title and thought that skeleton can dodge

    • @purogamingyt2327
      @purogamingyt2327 17 днів тому +148

      SANS???

    • @Dorvendor
      @Dorvendor 17 днів тому +6

      Lmao, same!

    • @CykeGames
      @CykeGames 17 днів тому +86

      * what, you think i'm just gonna stand there and take it?

    • @polishscribe674
      @polishscribe674 17 днів тому +40

      *megalovania intensifies*

    • @quint001
      @quint001 17 днів тому +11

      Same. Our neurons just built different fr fr

  • @MyraTerrariaOfficial
    @MyraTerrariaOfficial 17 днів тому +471

    Finally a worthy opponent! A nohit Skeleton!

    • @kaiotrem358
      @kaiotrem358 17 днів тому +23

      No hitting a skeleton? Things sure are getting undertale here

    • @virajl5754
      @virajl5754 17 днів тому +6

      "OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY!"

    • @virajl5754
      @virajl5754 17 днів тому +4

      Also, Myra we fully expect you to now follow through and nohit a skeleton

    • @Pyrodiac
      @Pyrodiac 17 днів тому +3

      I genuinly had to read that twice to make sure you said Skeleton and not Skeletron.

  • @Shyguymask
    @Shyguymask 17 днів тому +55

    Not a good day to be a mechanical machine shaped like a skull

  • @GDColon
    @GDColon 17 днів тому +333

    You're slowly turning into the Terraria version of pannenkoek and I love it

    • @linhero797
      @linhero797 17 днів тому +30

      Now we just need a 3 hour video of some irritating Terraria Mechanic that bothers everyone but no one has fully explained yet.

    • @a.random.cat.22
      @a.random.cat.22 17 днів тому +6

      since when does bro play terraria? W

    • @m4x_g4mer90
      @m4x_g4mer90 17 днів тому +11

      He's kinda like decino but for terraria and not old

    • @marcespano2866
      @marcespano2866 17 днів тому +7

      Hey it's the funny Generation Retro unsightreadable, GD coins guy

    • @LudovicoPetroleumScallywagVII
      @LudovicoPetroleumScallywagVII 17 днів тому

      @@a.random.cat.22”Into the terraria version of”

  • @SirPembertonS.Crevalius
    @SirPembertonS.Crevalius 17 днів тому +671

    This should be made an easter egg during the skeletron fight, a visually enraged skeleton spawns during the fight, but it's just a normal skeleton enemy that is undodgeable lmao.

    • @aperks
      @aperks 17 днів тому +5

      nuh uh

    • @dr.infernous9342
      @dr.infernous9342 17 днів тому +27

      perhaps in legendary mode

    • @yes_and_so_what
      @yes_and_so_what 17 днів тому +26

      new getfixedboi spawn

    • @yourmom6472
      @yourmom6472 16 днів тому

      okay sure but uh, the pfp?

    • @chickennuggetman2593
      @chickennuggetman2593 15 днів тому +4

      Maybe theres an easter egg were skeletron "dodges" attacks (it says something like miss and he doesn't take damage)

  • @BigPapaWMoney
    @BigPapaWMoney 17 днів тому +113

    Oh God I better make sure no regular skeletons bang once on a tall gate

  • @Meowlegend7
    @Meowlegend7 17 днів тому +219

    You are using the Fairy Princess instead of the Wisp? That is insane to believe.

    • @DanielQuan13011
      @DanielQuan13011 17 днів тому +12

      A fairy princess is prettier than a flying burning skull I guess. Other than that, she's worse than Wisp because you can't control her.

    • @Meowlegend7
      @Meowlegend7 17 днів тому +10

      ​@@DanielQuan13011Fairy Princess is my favorite light pet, so I prefer it more.
      Wisp is very cool too, though. Sometimes I swap to that.

    • @gablink5190
      @gablink5190 17 днів тому +4

      Wisp is cool, but it is kinda annoying when you are mining, and the fairy princess has a higher light radius

    • @BoulderGod
      @BoulderGod 17 днів тому +9

      All this chitter chatter about the better light pet between wisp and fairy princess but tbh i know the best one is THEEEE JACK O' LANTERN YEAAAH HES COOL AF THATS ALL I CARE ABOUT YEAHH

    • @DanielQuan13011
      @DanielQuan13011 17 днів тому +10

      @@gablink5190 From a quick trip to the wiki, their lights are the same.

  • @randomyoutuber4189
    @randomyoutuber4189 17 днів тому +35

    The uncaring melee dodge build vs the undodgeable Skeleton spirit

  • @gengarisnotinsmash...
    @gengarisnotinsmash... 17 днів тому +57

    That's not a skeleton! That's just Sans messing with the Devs again!

    • @marianox3644
      @marianox3644 17 днів тому +1

      Finally found someone who made a Sans joke

  • @hamzamotara4304
    @hamzamotara4304 17 днів тому +72

    Holy moly you and the makers of Wand of Sparking could make an esoteric compendium of Terraria data.

    • @Goat_gamering
      @Goat_gamering 17 днів тому +2

      The 3 (because to my knowledge there are 2 people running Wand of Sparking) could remake the entire Terraria wiki

    • @hamzamotara4304
      @hamzamotara4304 17 днів тому +4

      @@Goat_gamering WoS is made by Deadbug and Canadien. And I'm certain that the three of them are the living embodiments of the trivia section.

  • @Vici0uSquirrel
    @Vici0uSquirrel 17 днів тому +143

    I like that the existence of dodges based on random chance means that you can technically face tank any boss without instakill attacks forever without even wearing armor, you just need Dream’s luck mod to do it

    • @fragmentedrose7401
      @fragmentedrose7401 17 днів тому +11

      Luck stat doesn't affect dodges iirc. I hope I'm wrong because that would be insanely funny.

    • @firestrike5478
      @firestrike5478 17 днів тому +18

      @@fragmentedrose7401 They don't mean in-game luck, they just mean luck in general. E.g. landing on that 25% dodge chance every single time is technically possible but unlikely.

    • @trentlindsey7401
      @trentlindsey7401 17 днів тому +5

      ​@@firestrike5478 They said "dream's luck mod", which is a mod that cranks your luck stat to insane levels

    • @fragmentedrose7401
      @fragmentedrose7401 17 днів тому

      @@firestrike5478 what the other guy said. "Dream's luck mod" is an existing mod that changes your in-game luck stat so they did in fact mean the in game luck.

    • @cleversand404
      @cleversand404 17 днів тому +10

      ​@@firestrike5478actually, it's not! the effect the brain of confusion gives you acts as a cooldown, so the brain will always fail if you're tanking. you'd have to rely on the 10 percent of the master ninja gear!

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 17 днів тому +23

    Who's stronger?
    A martial artist personally protected both by the gods themselves and the still-living brain of a Lovecraftian deity
    Or:
    Bone-itis

    • @Sambekonen
      @Sambekonen 17 днів тому +6

      Bone-itis solos negative difficulty + verse

  • @abdillahahmad7025
    @abdillahahmad7025 17 днів тому +11

    Player: What? You think I'm just gonna stand there and take- ouch!

  • @nmheath03
    @nmheath03 17 днів тому +11

    Whenever they patch this, they shouldn't fix the typo, just add skeletron along side it.

  • @MrShuki0
    @MrShuki0 17 днів тому +29

    I love whenever I can dodge le funny skeleton bros... Oh, wait. I can't.

  • @damnthisisabadname
    @damnthisisabadname 17 днів тому +22

    Kellam at it yet again

  • @ambythepubby
    @ambythepubby 17 днів тому +17

    2 videos in a day huh

    • @Terraw
      @Terraw  17 днів тому +17

      *week.

    • @ambythepubby
      @ambythepubby 17 днів тому +13

      @@Terraw i am not familiar with the concept of time huh

  • @codenameloser8488
    @codenameloser8488 17 днів тому +4

    Waffletime celebrating Skeletron prime being forgotten rn

  • @Mega_Croissantamence
    @Mega_Croissantamence 16 днів тому +2

    Some relogic employee is facepalming right now

  • @thexwhats2989
    @thexwhats2989 17 днів тому +2

    They should make skeletons undogeable in the next update in the for the worthy seed because of this

  • @JaizerIsTrashAtTerraria
    @JaizerIsTrashAtTerraria 17 днів тому +2

    Two amazing Terrasteel videos in a week, this should be considered a national holiday!

  • @felixcohen1247
    @felixcohen1247 17 днів тому +20

    My theory based on 0 evidence is that they had NPCID.SkeletonPrime or something in the original code, but because that's not something that exists, it got removed in the compiled version.

    • @madcio
      @madcio 17 днів тому +28

      That would cause compilation error about unknown "SkeletonPrime".

    • @Alexminecrafter1
      @Alexminecrafter1 17 днів тому +3

      ​@@madcioyeah

  • @jimkas3606
    @jimkas3606 17 днів тому +3

    This is the kind of content I fw

  • @AlanDarkheart
    @AlanDarkheart 16 днів тому +2

    Skeleton when u tryin to dodge him
    "R + Dont care + L + Didnt ask + My rizz is more powerfull. Tonight, 22 . 00, date, bcause through all the Terraria's, its, indeed an undodgeble one!"

  • @acidassassin475
    @acidassassin475 17 днів тому +3

    Why am I surprised it's a switch statement. It's Terraria code... It's ALWALYS switch statements.

  • @cleversand404
    @cleversand404 17 днів тому +2

    if they fix this they should keep the skeletons not being dodgable, but make them undodgable all the time

  • @MuffinTheMicrobiologist
    @MuffinTheMicrobiologist 15 днів тому

    I love that skeltron prime was just forgotten about

  • @Its_Sult_
    @Its_Sult_ 17 днів тому +3

    the infamous R

  • @CongaYT
    @CongaYT 17 днів тому +3

    Relogic indirectly nerfing summoner yet again

  • @pnghumor
    @pnghumor 17 днів тому +3

    skeleton prime

  • @Fofenho
    @Fofenho 3 дні тому

    this truly is a re-logic moment

  • @3twibles4sweetrevenge
    @3twibles4sweetrevenge 17 днів тому

    I was expecting a late month upload when u said next month

  • @WhimsicalLittledawg
    @WhimsicalLittledawg 17 днів тому +1

    Much skeleton, even if the metal one was forgotten.
    Yay!

  • @ThePsycho211
    @ThePsycho211 17 днів тому +4

    3:10, I didnt see the decompiled code, but it is possible that developers didnt forget about Skeletron Prime, as he might have same ID as Skeletron and the game is handling both bosses from one type of enemy. Didnt see the code, but that would also explain why they didnt notice the typo, if they tried to type "SkeletonPrime" they would notice, as compiler would give an error.

    • @Brass319
      @Brass319 17 днів тому +10

      imagine if skeleton prime was an actual hardmode enemy

    • @mrscreamlad6572
      @mrscreamlad6572 17 днів тому +5

      Nah, they do have separate IDs. Good guess, though.

    • @kellamyoshikage286
      @kellamyoshikage286 17 днів тому +1

      The IDs only refer to individual NPC IDs, so you couldn't refer to both Skeletron and Prime in one value. They would have to be separate. That's why it's only the blue shirt skeleton that can be undodgeable, that's what the ID resolves to.

    • @steptimusheap8860
      @steptimusheap8860 15 днів тому

      ​@@kellamyoshikage286no reason they couldn't technically have the same NPCID and be differentiated by an ai[n] tag or some other field. That would be a weird way to do it but it wouldn't be something too out of the ordinary for terraria.

    • @kellamyoshikage286
      @kellamyoshikage286 15 днів тому

      As far as I've seen, the only cases where separate enemies have the same ID are when those enemies differ only by scale and/or color. Pinky is a blue slime variant, and so is a yellow slime. However, Dungeon Guardian and Skeletron have different sprites and thus separate IDs, and the more obviously different Prime gets a separate ID for the same reason.
      Though the weird thing is Prime's head actually uses a different AI style as well, it's just that that style does the same things as DG/Skeletron AI.
      Side note, size variants of the blue shirt skeleton are equally affected by this glitch since they use SetDefaults() to define their variants, like how Pinky is a blue slime according to slime rain. Bone-throwing skeletons, however, have different IDs to give them their unique behavior. They also can't push doors iirc.

  • @TheLusion
    @TheLusion 17 днів тому +2

    But you can survive dungeon guardians's hits

  • @macyk113
    @macyk113 17 днів тому +1

    That skeleton just was a master of enforcing while life, if you dont get it then dont worry

  • @LemonSoap156
    @LemonSoap156 17 днів тому +23

    Mellon

  • @_dot_tea2774
    @_dot_tea2774 15 днів тому

    "Minor spelling mistake, your dodge mechanic is invalid" -- Terraria Skeleton, probably

  • @MARSHTMP
    @MARSHTMP 16 днів тому +1

    blue shirt skeleton... i name him snas
    because he ignores dodges instead of dodging, so hes like the reverse of sans

  • @BuildingBloxies
    @BuildingBloxies 17 днів тому

    boys, Sir Terrasteel has uploaded

  • @OLEKSAJEDIX
    @OLEKSAJEDIX 17 днів тому

    great vid, though sometimes music was too loud

  • @ahmed4363
    @ahmed4363 16 днів тому

    i find it quite funny that the *blue shirt* skeleton is the one that can ignore player dodges.
    Next you'll be telling me he can dodge your attacks and shoot blasters at you

  • @Jonskipvp
    @Jonskipvp 17 днів тому +2

    thats so fucking funny

  • @CoolGirlAyden
    @CoolGirlAyden 13 днів тому

    As a modder that's so funny because that's definitely something I'd do

  • @Pirlo926
    @Pirlo926 17 днів тому +1

    I've been modding the game lately for fun to do stupid stuff like hammering furniture. It's hilarious.
    I'll fix this in my modded version.

  • @LilacMonarch
    @LilacMonarch 16 днів тому

    SANS!! Stop ignoring the human's dodges! You're not Skeletron!

  • @DarkGob
    @DarkGob 17 днів тому +1

    The programmer that wrote this function: ........fuck.

  • @fishthingidk
    @fishthingidk 17 днів тому +5

    How do you find this out?? You would literally have to comb over all of terraria’s code to find this. Or you’re insanely mad, die to a skeleton and decide to check the code on why you didn’t dodge it (which literally should not be something you notice or care about this much lol)

    • @Terraw
      @Terraw  17 днів тому +8

      I dunno. Amaboye just showed up with it one day.
      I guess there are people who just scour the code.

    • @maqma_2118
      @maqma_2118 17 днів тому +12

      Read changelog
      “Skeletron is undodgeable during the day”
      Go test this out ingame
      Skeletron is, infact, dodgable
      Check sourcecode to find out why this is the case

    • @fishthingidk
      @fishthingidk 17 днів тому +4

      @@maqma_2118 Actually yeah that would make a lot of sense… uhm 😅

    • @kellamyoshikage286
      @kellamyoshikage286 17 днів тому +5

      Someone was wondering about the full list of undodgeable enemies, so I checked in the code because that's faster than scouring version histories. Then I saw the skeleton and got curious.

    • @fishthingidk
      @fishthingidk 17 днів тому

      @@kellamyoshikage286Ah that makes sense, thanks haha

  • @GGGamesFNaF
    @GGGamesFNaF 17 днів тому

    That's hilarious

  • @damnthisisabadname
    @damnthisisabadname 17 днів тому

    Amazing

  • @linkgottert8208
    @linkgottert8208 15 днів тому +1

    reverse sans

  • @CHARGER_20-98
    @CHARGER_20-98 17 днів тому

    can you make a how to for extracting terraria's files?

  • @SkyTetra
    @SkyTetra 17 днів тому

    This is hilarious

  • @nneykobar_hali
    @nneykobar_hali 17 днів тому +2

    hope this never gets patched

    • @kellamyoshikage286
      @kellamyoshikage286 17 днів тому +2

      Alas, I actually reported it on the forums before I mentioned it to Terra.

    • @mannyheffley5481
      @mannyheffley5481 17 днів тому +1

      @@kellamyoshikage286 found terraria Oppenheimer

  • @nneykobar_hali
    @nneykobar_hali 17 днів тому

    perfect

  • @puglinbrute9264
    @puglinbrute9264 16 днів тому

    Wait
    I though skeltron and prime despawn when it turns day???
    Ive been playing this game for 9 years. HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS

  • @fiddlestickjones
    @fiddlestickjones 17 днів тому

    100% relogic can just make a hotfix like right now, but it would be funny to keep it in the game so

  • @SomeRand0mNerd
    @SomeRand0mNerd 17 днів тому +3

    skeleton primre

  • @clcasiisclqadir
    @clcasiisclqadir 17 днів тому

    Wait you mean you cant dodge EOL daytime but i remember that the master ninja gear make me dodge her attack i play on mobile pls explain for mne

    • @vaelophisnyx9873
      @vaelophisnyx9873 17 днів тому

      iirc that update never made it to mobile. Its how it used to be there, dodgable (as it SHOULD be. Do not disrespect players like this, Relogic!)

  • @marshallsessions845
    @marshallsessions845 16 днів тому

    HOW DO U FIND THESE THINGS

    • @marshallsessions845
      @marshallsessions845 16 днів тому

      Nvm i was 3 seconds away from you telling us who told u about this when i commented

  • @vermilion1414
    @vermilion1414 17 днів тому

    Man I can't hear you behind all of the music and game sounds wtf

  • @arealdummyonyoutube
    @arealdummyonyoutube 17 днів тому

    Oh nous

  • @TricksOfLoki
    @TricksOfLoki 17 днів тому

    As a programmer. Yeah I could see myself doing something like this

  • @vaelophisnyx9873
    @vaelophisnyx9873 17 днів тому

    the EOL dodge change was just...awful, tbh. Makes it so painful to fight.

  • @kovexplay
    @kovexplay 17 днів тому

    Wow, that's actually crazy lol
    I don't even know how you can discover something like that. I'm assuming by looking through the code for some reason...?
    At the end of the video the person who discovered this issue mentioned that it will be parched. Does that mean the devs are aware of this or is that just speculation?

    • @Terraw
      @Terraw  17 днів тому +3

      It probably means someone told the devs. It’ll probably be fixed in 1.4.5.

    • @kellamyoshikage286
      @kellamyoshikage286 17 днів тому +2

      Someone was wondering about the undodgeable mechanic in another server, so I looked into it and found the method/traced the Skeleton AI to figure out how to make him undodgeable. Then I reported it because it gave me a convenient excuse to bring up how weird it is that Skeletron's speed is uncapped.

  • @nemesis041
    @nemesis041 16 днів тому

    Missing semicolon moment

  • @tommyking7878
    @tommyking7878 17 днів тому

    The music at parts was louder than you talking.

  • @MidoriMushrooms
    @MidoriMushrooms 7 днів тому

    thanks for making the EoL even more cancer I guess
    also lol
    lmao even

  • @SquidBow
    @SquidBow 17 днів тому

    Wait? You cant dodge daytime empress?

  • @zekerdeath
    @zekerdeath 17 днів тому

    W video

  • @Spiney09
    @Spiney09 16 днів тому

    Leave it in Relogic, it’s funny!

  • @thebindingofzajamack9909
    @thebindingofzajamack9909 7 днів тому

    uh daytime empress is hard? it took me like 5 attempts with endgame gear

  • @Dingsmann
    @Dingsmann 16 днів тому

    They Will Fix this but turn the Skeleton into a feature
    please

  • @baikal7936
    @baikal7936 17 днів тому +9

    the music is kinda loud. It was kinda hard for me to listen to your voice :(

  • @jarusca3933
    @jarusca3933 16 днів тому

    LOL

  • @facelessanon
    @facelessanon 17 днів тому +2

    1:11 as a coder who uses C# (the same programming language used to create Terraria), when I saw this boolean function, I started analyzing it 🗿🗿

  • @OmegaChip
    @OmegaChip 17 днів тому

    wait dodging eol was a thing in the past?

    • @Terraw
      @Terraw  17 днів тому +4

      Yes

    • @elfrangofrito
      @elfrangofrito 17 днів тому

      Yes, and thankfully I killed her during that era

    • @yarnicles4616
      @yarnicles4616 17 днів тому +1

      How else do you avoid damage? Do you stand there?

  • @Triple3Universe
    @Triple3Universe 17 днів тому

    Reverse sans

  • @ISAAC_69000
    @ISAAC_69000 17 днів тому

    Hope it gets fixed in 1.4.5

  • @farenhay7805
    @farenhay7805 17 днів тому +2

    Hello

  • @maksiksq
    @maksiksq 17 днів тому

    Lmao

  • @FicusLicker
    @FicusLicker 14 днів тому

    SA-

  • @jsnUej39hrsbOQmwJqw92bLgoP
    @jsnUej39hrsbOQmwJqw92bLgoP 17 днів тому

    lmao

  • @Mabra51
    @Mabra51 17 днів тому

    Re-logic being a anti-fun police.

  • @noble6677
    @noble6677 17 днів тому

    music is way to loud.

  • @valront9553
    @valront9553 17 днів тому +2

    lets gooo

  • @terraSpark902
    @terraSpark902 17 днів тому

    Lol

  • @Ariamaki
    @Ariamaki 16 днів тому

    These changes were terrible and I hope that, rather than correcting this typo, they just remove the "dodge ignorance" mechanic entirely. At bare minimum they need to make it so ONLY the instakills are dodgeproof and not all their attacks, although even that is trash.

  • @NotSnak
    @NotSnak 17 днів тому +4

    The daytime empress change will forever be my least favorite change relogic has ever done. Only for the fact that it just removes the option to use dodges entirely. I can and have nohit daytime empress easily i just see no reason why this option should be completely stripped from players when specing into dodging nerfs your potential damage output by a fair bit. You're prolonging the fight for some survivability which is a fair tradeoff in my eyes.

    • @desestscourge6240
      @desestscourge6240 17 днів тому +1

      Doesn't being able to get hit defeat the purpose of it being a "no-hit" challenge?

    • @VaultInteractive
      @VaultInteractive 17 днів тому

      @@desestscourge6240…just don’t equip the dodge items then.

    • @NotSnak
      @NotSnak 17 днів тому

      @@desestscourge6240 i dont see why dodges should be disallowed even if it is a "no-hit" challenge. theyre in the game and using them should be an option that you can go for if you choose to. Just outright disabling them while also not saying theyre disabled feels incredibly arbitrary

    • @vaelophisnyx9873
      @vaelophisnyx9873 17 днів тому +1

      @@NotSnak yeah this. If anything a dodge ISN'T a hit, by definition! You didn't take damage. therefor, no hit

  • @leafyisnthere9396
    @leafyisnthere9396 17 днів тому

    I had not known of the change to EoL. Just means use better armor against her.

    • @vaelophisnyx9873
      @vaelophisnyx9873 17 днів тому

      nah its a straight up instant kill if you get hit, always, no matter what
      dodges made the fight bearable but as of that patch EoL daytime is a hard NO

    • @jrgamer8677
      @jrgamer8677 17 днів тому

      @@vaelophisnyx9873 daytime EoL was always meant to be difficult, you're supposed to learn the attacks and avoid them(also, you can still get "better" armor for the fight, that just means more damage/mobility/support in this case instead of dodge chance or defence)

  • @tylerherr4288
    @tylerherr4288 17 днів тому

    epic mojang fail

  • @adambyte256
    @adambyte256 17 днів тому

    Is there a mod that reverts this behaviour, making all attacks dodgeable again? I wasn't able to find one.
    To me, this was the most insulting change in the history of Terraria, because its entire purpose is to _remove_ something interesting that is the natural result of the interactions of existing mechanics. If Re-Logic wanted certain attacks to be guaranteed kills, they shouldn't have added the dodge mechanic to the game.

  • @cappytalysm
    @cappytalysm 17 днів тому

    Literally unplayable.

  • @epicmanepicmani7106
    @epicmanepicmani7106 17 днів тому +1

    This is gamebraking and just made the game unplayable, I will be asking for a refund

  • @MegaJani
    @MegaJani 17 днів тому +2

    Proof that they don't test their game
    So much for that labor of love

  • @dram3711
    @dram3711 16 днів тому

    Literally unplayable. Relogic, plz fix.

  • @asyncthevoid
    @asyncthevoid 17 днів тому

    that's so dumb

  • @Tpainmills.
    @Tpainmills. 17 днів тому

    e