Uh oh! I made a mistake! Apparently the tiny-kris-running sprite *is* used! Infact it's used in a plot-mandatory cutscene, so we all actually saw it already. So how did we all miss it? Well you see, it's only used for a couple of frames, when Kris is jumping into the dark world with Susie at the beginning of chapter 2. Oops! Credit to Jason llirmwl for that eagle-eyed catch. ... okay here's the rest of the FAQ: Q: Wait why did you suggest Noelle's mother is on the roof? The dogs don't mention a roof. A: Oops! That's my bad, I don't know why my brain just assumed that. Maybe I imagined a mansion wouldn't have floor-accessible windows....? That doesn't make any sense though, sorry about that! I don't even. Q: I just want to watch the Jevil part on infinite repeat, how do I...? A: I got you covered dawg: ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxrKRln2y3YusT6JpjIDy3OYDybTqk44NB Q: Wait are you being serious or....? A: Welcome to Schrodinger's Seriousness, I am, at all times, both joking, and conveying some element of the truth. Q: Are you okay? A: I think "March Madness" describes my last month pretty well, so I'm gonna make smaller videos to recharge during April. Obvious the ideal would be 'take a break dang it' but uh, the algorithm is watching. It's always watching... Q: I noticed a glitch! A: This is a very glitchy video. Some of this is corner cutting, some of this is intentional. Q: Did you mean to make that part at 13:12 a Freezeframe bonus? A: Aw crap this is what I get for editing at 2am. Try this....? ua-cam.com/video/ftQNVAY6KeU/v-deo.html And if that doesn't work it's just a freezeframe of the Ice-E's Pizza Place next to the First Dark World (the closet) and the words "Why do the color schemes match?" I first noticed the ICE-E conspiracy when I was making the Closet Darkworld, you see, and wondering if there were any other parts of the game that match the aesthetics. And while the basements 'sort' of match, ICE-E's pizza-lair, behind the counter matching disturbingly well, including a blood-like sauce substance dripping from the counter. You ever make an entire video because of a particular observation, but then you literally only mention the observation in a fraction of a second and it gets lost to the abyss? No? Just me? Okay then. Q: You really like April Fools Day, huh? A: I really do. As a kid I used to get sick a lot on April 1st because I'd plan these super elaborate pranks and tire myself out from the stress/excitement of it all. ♫ Just another April First for HalfBreadChaos ♫ Q: Why do you keep marking the 'not real screenshots?' It's pretty obvious they're not real gameplay. A: I use a lot of footage and screenshots from parts of the game people miss, and it makes me anxious that people won't be able to tell obscure gameplay footage from some of the more elaborate edits, so if it's not beyond a shadow of a doubt, I figure I might as well make it easy to tell. Q: Where did you get the Asriel and Dess sprites? A: I just kinda tweaked the Noelle sprite, and Asriel's sprite from UT. Those aren't game files. I also edited the tiny Kris to have a front-facing sprite, since the only thing in the game folders for them is the sprite of them running up. Q: At 13:40... where did you get that sprite of ICE-E? A: I believe that's from the ICE-E mini game Toby received as a birthday present, but the details of said game appear to be lost in space and time. If you have a copy of the game from when it was a downloadable, gimme a poke. Q: Where can I find the voice of Jevil? Does he do commissions? A: Yep! Find his commission details on Twitch here: twitter.com/zedynamo?lang=en You can also see more epic Jevil-Voicework from him on www.twitch.tv/hellhandbasket This... this isn't sponsored btw. I just had a lot of fun with that part. Q: I want the patreon link but can't find it! A: UA-cam descriptions sometimes bug out, here ya go: www.patreon.com/HalfBreadChaos?fan_landing=true
Holy shit, this helped me piece together my elements theory! There are two axis of Deltarune's story: Internal and External. The internal is all contained within the story and the external is the combination of the of the explicit implications of the metalore, and the implications of what is not explicitly contained in the story. So, storywise, you have a positive/negative binary. Combined two binaries and you get a T chart: The Primary Elements of Light versus Dark, "Morality", and Fire versus Ice "Entropy". The primary elements are not seperate, but all part of the same whole. The secondary elements come from applying the elements to story structure, creating a sort of "possibility cube". There are eight internal "prescriptive" elements, like how a cube can be divided evenly into eight smaller cubes, and six external "descriptive" elements. The descriptive external elements are the six elemental types in combat: Morality here is interpreted in story terms- comedy and tragedy. The four primary elements become a tertiary sliding scale: aggression, neutral, passive: That being the reaction to the situation. Comedy x Aggression: Creative Comedy x Neutral: Supportive Comedy x Passive: Productive Tragedy x Aggression: Violence Tragedy x Neutral: Insanity Tragedy x Passive: Obsolescence The the prescriptive elements describe what mode of the story the character pushes forward. It "prescribes" a motive to their actions;- This is why it has been so hard to understand this aspect at this point in the story: we have three out of eight of the clues. And thus for now, I will let this remain unnamed. I'd love to chat if you are also interested, if not, I'll keep passively enjoying this content :).
Something to note about the whole "Noelle button puzzle" thing: Kris may not like nearly shocking Noelle, but if you move off the button repeatedly when Noelle *isn't* close to the laser, it will prompt Noelle to jokingly ask if Kris wants a treat to stay still. If you answer yes, Noelle will say that Kris sounds very genuine. I think Kris does indeed enjoy pranks and teasing, but only harmless ones.
Plus, if Kris is Chara's Deltarune counterpart to some extent (Dreemurr child, likes knives, chocolate, etc), then having them enjoy pulling pranks as well makes sense.
i feel like kris probably just looks hurt knowing that WE are making them almost hurt noelle. she sees it as one of their funny little pranks, but to kris, its something they cant even control.
@@yoahnoah9780 He didn't say that. Tust me, I've read all the interviews and he's very specific with how he words his answers. The real question is to what degree are the two worlds related?
Okay, hear me out here; Ice-E/Nightmare is the final boss of the weird route and your reward is just a single slice of really soggy pizza that heals one HP
@@davisdf3064 If you play through the whole game purposely choosing the options that bring most suffering to everyone, you kinda deserve way worse. Like a *cheeseless* soggy pizza
It just occurred to me that WE are the shadow that awakened in kris’s heart and considering what he says about it being in the knights hand would mean that we’re being played by the knight(we’re playing the knights game) so what Dess and Noelle saw was probably our original body or gaster because whatever they saw probably had to do with why we’re in kris’s body in the first place. it’s also likely we weren’t the only one controlling kris considering how kris seems to have been fighting a soul before the game started(hence the bird cage and toriel talking about how kris” does this sometimes” when he leaves on the sink.
ICE'Es actually being hell would be the funniest and most brilliant play on words in the game. I'd love to see a creepy cryptic corporste greed based dark world in the restaurant.
In the sprites using the debug mode the purple character sprite reads:,, spr_npc_icemascot_fake". Every other mascot is described as :,,icemascot1" and ,,icemascot2". The purple one is the only one that reads : "fake"
I'm willing to bet there's some truth to this, not that Ice-E is the literal dangerous creature, but symbolism, maybe there's a similarity of whatever killed Dess took that shape in a dark world
Well the dark world does bring these inanimate objects to life, if the bunker has a dark world in it, maybe some Ice-E's merch was brought to life and that's what ended up killing Dess
@JPeri05 Yeah, but I understood that as Mtt going to the computer and drawing that body in ms paint then deleting it... after all, deleting a file makes it be still there just inaccesible by normal means, until the bits that it was get overwritten by something else, which is why swatch (a color square of a paint software) is the one talking about that "dream"
knowing toby's tendency to subvert expectations i think it's entirely plausible for ice e to secretly be some sort of overarching demonic force lurking in the darkness, tormenting the people of hometown
@@CreepyboomGamer Very different actually. The only real relation would be the fact that both have an evil pizzeria. And a purple guy inside that pizzeria
@@CreepyboomGamer Ice-E was a joke in Undertale that just carried on to this game, so not really. Ice-E is a creature that feeds off, uh, pizza, loves the cold probably, has an excess of merchandising, might be someone in a sui- Ok I see the similarities, but they're very superficial
For a crackpot theory published on April 1st, this makes a surprising amount of sense! ICE-E might be real. But I swear, if freaking *PURPLE GUY* is the knight, I'm gonna lose it
I've always thought Ice-E was creepy, but this is quite something else. I think there's a good chance a Dark Fountain will be opened inside the P"E"ZZA Shop, at least.
In Undertale as stated in the video one of the Fun events triggers the "Nightmare" in the Monster Kidz Word Search But there's also another Fun event, the phone call where Alphys orders a .... Pizza
oh hey, apparently on the spamton sweepstakes thing there's a hidden link to a story written by a young Noelle which says that the Ice-e on a pizza box which was in her home winked at her
Ice E also has strange connections to the everyman, as well as the weird muscular ice E has a weird thing for medieval words and claims to have blood. Monsters don't have blood.
@JPeri05 Wait.. The bunny does imply they don't have blood, but Susie MIGHT have blood, Which means monsters are split into 2 categories again, Monsters with blood, and those without. I guess Humans do exist and Monsters are on the surface?
Ice-E supposedly is called a crytid to small children to scare them, makes sense, although the rumor might have some lore implications? There's also the Wizard who is said to be in the hospital for self induced injuries, but he speaks about Magic, which could just be interpreted as the guy is insane, as it is implied, but Toby is known for misdirection.
I actually really like this theory. It definitely feels like the "creature" the dog gang were talking about has be brought up again eventually, even if it turns out to just be some kind of guard animal. Tho I don't think it's ICE-E lol. The idea that Kris isn't actually a prankster but their attempts to protect others were interpreted as pranks is very interesting!
I think it relates to the smile in the dark of the spamton dungeon and on the t.v and the fact that kris was scared after the spamton fight, the speculation gets deeper, neat tho
This is actually a pretty good theory, I personally had a bad feeling of Icey and the mascot as burger pants doesn’t recognize him. Plus Toby once used Icey face in profile pics before. Could just be harmless, but there is a small possibility that it’s actually evil
There's a funny little theory that Gaster is Toby, the dog is almost confirmed to just be his messenger, it was literally sent to relay a message from Toby during a live event, plus his account just turning into Gaster was uh, interesting. So if Gaster is Toby, and Toby is also Ice-E, then..?
Something interesting with Ice-e being referred to as "hell" is something I don't see mentioned a lot with Gaster. Gaster is often connected to 666 in the code, so it does seem like Gaster is also a part of "hell".
Wouldn't be surprised if this was building up to a war between Heaven and Hell, or the Angel and Gaster & the titans. If ICE-E really is an abombination created by Gaster, then it makes sense it would go after the Holidays (if we assume either Dess or Noelle is the Angel).
This is ALARMINGLY well connected... I'm gonna keep thinking about this while playing now, if it isn't part of the main plot I want some secret super bonus boss against Ice-E.
"Nightmare will awaken in your hearts" This is literally the first thing we see in the game, us the player "awakening" in a heart Though I don't think whatever then "thing" is is the player or gaster, rather it's something else (not chara)
@@officersoulknight6321 Watch the stain and birdcage meaning there was another player, and they were a playtester, then there's the player in real time, and THEN comes someone representing a person in a future where Deltarune is considered something of a retro game. Absolute chaos... chaos.
Personally, I view the reading that Kris felt hurt by the electric wall puzzle as them feeling guilt over their past actions. You'll notice every instance of their dark pranking tendencies are in the far past tense, suggesting that at some point they realized how much it was outputting and straining their relationships with everyone close to them. Now in the modern context, they've outgrown this harmful behavior and are overall regarded as much much more chill.
I think I can actually come up with a connection between Ice-E and Gaster. Gaster fell into the Core, right? And what's used to cool the Core? The blocks of Ice from Snowdin, where we first meet Ice-E? COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!!!
We don't know that gaster fell into the Core - just that he fell into 'his creation'. It's more likely to be the machine that Sans is trying to fix (and, according to Toby Fox, never will - this is the best possible outcome, he says... but of Undertale, or... Deltarune?)
There is now a cryptid kind of ad for Ice e on the Deltarune site. Clicking it leads to a young Noelle's blog entry where she gets scared when she believes Ice e on the pizza box winked at her, and links to her sister's entry, which redirects to a missing page.
You've put out some of the most interesting and niche deltarune theories I've seen, and I am in love with it all. This channel is just what I needed now that I've been hit by the Deltarune hyperfixation bug again, and I'm so glad its gained so much traction!
I do agree there is some nefarious force in the light world. Though personally I think it was what slashed the tires. I think the sound that plays during Entry 17 is meant to connect Entry 17 to the dark world, not connect the dark world to Entry 17, if that makes sense.
@@littlemoth4956 I think it's a red herring, similar to what toby did at the end of chapter 1. I wouldn't be _surprised_ if Kris was the one who slashed the tired, but it's not where I think this is going.
Actually, now that you've mentioned it, it's interesting that we meet those weird smiley faces in the Ch 2, and we see another smile at the end... There seems to be a high concentration of weird smiles in Deltarune.
AHAHA! THE SMILING MAN THAT MUFFET MENTIONS WASN'T METTATON, IT WASN'T FLOWEY, AND NOT GASTER EITHER, IT WAS ICE-E ALL ALONG YES AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I did not expect this at all, but goddamn I kinda see it and will probably be on the lookout for him on the next few chapters. The thing from the dogs in jail also caught my attention, seems like something that's sorta hidden, but might be very important. Thanks for the video, you always put quality content out, the editing in this one was insanely good, I loved all the details and effort you put, absolutely goated.
The idea if there being a cryptid in the town, a threat that kris Susie and noelle have no real way to deal with outside of the dark world, and kris being the only one trying to stop it, only able to use a simple knife as a defense...that’s honestly really terrifying. I’ve had thoughts of how fights in the light world may come to pass but this one seems pretty interesting.
I suspect that whatever shadow we’re talking about might definitely have the connection to the shadow crystal bosses, being that there’s three different spellings of giasfclfubrehber, giasfelfebrehber being a fairly important part of accessing the basement, I actually really like the idea that there’s a hidden secret in giasfclfebrehber, I would imagine that it could be an anagram, however at this point it could be too easy, awesome video by the way
5:33 - i litterally blinked at the last second of this frame when it stared to fade out and I didn't noticed that smile in the window but then when I oppened my eyes when this frame almost completely fainted out I actually saw that smile but only briefly and when I actually realised what I saw it was already gone - so it basically felt as if I was hallucinating it... That was very weird
Ohhhh shit! That point about Noelle blocking out truamatic experiences is fantastic! It's such a small detail but could mean so much. I never thought that this could be being used as secret forshadowing or something. bravo for spotting it
5:02 while it might seem like nothing is wrong if you look back at spamton as a parallel you cut his strings the only thing keeping him from freedom(mirroring Kris’s soul) he falls to the ground the only thing keeping him together we’re the thing keeping him from freedom. This doesn’t have much to do with this theory but I thought I would get it off my chest.
FUCKING FINALLY. I've been waiting for somebody to talk about Nightmare Mode and Jevil's warning. I assumed that the "Nightmare" was referring to snowgrave, though. I figured that was why Nightmare Mode depicts a creepy snowman- maybe somebody who was frozen to death. But who knows?
I was just saying to my friend some time ago, that I would LOVE to fight a glitched out hellish Ice-E in the future chapters! Like, there's a build-up! And Kris really either loves Ice-E or is investigating something. Either way, it's exciting!
Oh my god, the entire meltdown once ICE-E comes up, combined with the editing and the slowly speeding up THE WORLD REVOLVING is just, chef's kiss. I can't stop laughing. This video is a masterpiece
This theory would also explain each route differently with With the pacifist route, Kris' view you the player as too soft and would see you hesitating against the Nightmare. In the weird route, you are view as too bloodthirsty and one that would hurt even they're allies, friends and family example being Noelle as you literally broke. Despite they're different outcome you have one common trait- You are a powerful soul and if you fall into the hand of that thing, game over.
I do like the idea of something dangerous lurking on the light World other than the knight, but i don't think it will happen, though i must admit, everything abaut ice-e always Confused me
I do think there may be some sort of terrifying creature haunting Hometown, or at least the dark world, but I doubt it’s Ice-e. That would be ridiculous even for Deltarune standards. However, I still think the thing that attacked the wet-nosed bandits might still be Noelle’s mother. Since they probably tried to break in during the night, and caused a lot of noise, waking up Noelle’s mom, who scared them off. But Kris had to have seen something in the bunker. And the unused goner code, which is theorized to be spoken by Dess, mentions scratching sounds. While that could refer to many things, it brings to mind something with sharp claws. And if Kris is aware of Dess being trapped in the dark world, then maybe them creating the fountain in chapter 2 is Kris trying to look for clues to her whereabouts. And them slashing Toriel’s car tire and opening the door could be them trying to get the police to be aware of the dark world. But what would Kris need Undyne’s help with? What kind of foe does Kris believe they need the help of someone who benchpresses a car in order to take down?
This would line up strangely with the "preparation theory". The theory that we or even Kris performing the snowgrave route is in some way goading the power out of Noelle to make her powerful enough to withstand and combat something, most thinking they/we powering her up is for the dark prophecy.
Yessss! Found your channel not that long ago, already seen ALL of your videos, and wanted to see more, the THEORY spirit I have sensed, was very strong. Even if this is just an April Fools video, I very appreciative your content! Hope that nothing happens in your life and You will continue cheering me, and the rest of your audience, by your uploads! GL
Edit: at the moment of writing the comment, I haven't watched the video. It IS nightmare, that awakened in your heart after you have decomposed the evidence. And now it will live with you. Forever. Maybe THIS is the actual incomprehensible truth that made Jevil and Spamton go insane. 'Cuz it sure did with me, you, and other people that have watched this NIGHTMARE of a theory. After watching the video, before I wrote this comment, I was continuously laughing for 5 minutes. You know why.
The logic that a prankster would be fine with being pranked makes sense. But not grounded in any reality. The world is full of stone-throwers in glass houses. Nothing about Kris taking a prank poorly makes me think that this means they don't prank others. When you bring real things into a theory, you sometimes have to discard logic. The rest is really damn solid. Surprisingly so.
Point wasn't that Kris was offended, it was that Noelle thought it was unnatural, and boy howdy, when Noelle says something is unnatural in this game, it's important.
Honestly the best part of this vid was finding out that you're getting so much support. Really hope you're able to support yourself with this because your content is so good & you seem like a good lad, would love to see you be able to make stuff through the entirety of Deltarune's lifespan and beyond. This theory was wild it's disturbing how much evidence it has LMAO ice-e is god
The fact that ICE-E was also in the spamton sweepstakes, and in one of the few Toby Fox pictures we have makes this incredibly weird theory age even better????
The kris running animation isn't actually a younger kris; it's just the one that Kris uses when running to jump into a dark world in Ch2, right? Looks the same to me? They're smaller because they're hunched over
I still think that when Deltarune is complete, the whole fandom will have headaches to understand EVERYTHING, I mean, right now it's already complicated and with hint to new things that lead to new theories and AAAAAAAAAA
I feel like the first two chapters have mostly been introduction and setup. We have a mountain of questions that are mostly going to be answered, but until then we pump out theory content til 2024.
@@NRobbi42 i still think the game (or at least chapters 3-5) will be out before then toby fox already said he has the entire game's story finished, and apparently chapter 2 mainly only took so long because they were reworking the game's engine at that point. he even said outright that finishing chapter 2 will make the process of developing the rest of the game much more quick and efficient. all that plus the fact he has an entire team now, i really think he just wants us to expect we have to wait another 3 years but pull a fast one on us and like, release that shit this september out of nowhere. could just be wishful thinking, but, idk, makes sense to me
You know what? You’re probably the coolest, nicest UT/DR theorist youtuber I’ve had the pleasure to stumble upon. Like, your jokes and energy land even with a tts voice, you never shy away from the disclaimers reminding people to be kind and respectful (we all need a lil’ reminder, even the best of us) and being so damn observant and open-minded to come to crazy yet plausible conclusions, always managing to get my full attention in the process. Keep doing your good work (with given breaks, of course). Hope you’re doing well!
No. Ice-E related to gaster is actually more true (half being a joke, half being unironically true). I remember a line from susie about Ice-E frothing his mouth and then screaming "giasfelbreher". "Giasfelbreher" sounds a bit like gaster. Ice-E could even mean "I see Everything" or "I seE". And sans is also the one that gives you the word search with ice-e in it.
@@tornadix99 tbh i think that's just a silly reference to FNAF......... but honestly, yeah, sure, deltarune may have a canonical serial killer and cannibal of children, why not at this point, anything is possible
Hello HalfBreadChaos, First, I want to say I love your videos, you got me back in theorizing about this game. As such, as some kind of retribution, I wanted to share a sketch of a theory I made, for you or for anyone who somehow see this comment. Anyway, here is the thing : For the release of the second Chapter, we learnt there was going to be a total of 7 chapters, and it instantly reminded me of the seven human souls from Undertale. As such, I started thinking about the general themes of each chapter, and they somehow match the souls, in order of the Photoshop Flowey fight : Chapter 1 is Patience : You have to wait for Susie to understand all by herself that violence is not a solution and cannot do much to change her except to wait she learn by herself. Chapter 2 is Bravery : Noelle is a generally scared character who, at the end of the chapter, finally stand for herself and her friends, saving the situation. We can also argue that Berdly represent general Bravado as he act like a hero (while sucking at it). This would mean Chapters are in order : 3.Integrity , 4.Perseverance , 5.Kindness (probably in link with Ralsei ?) , 6.Justice , and finally Chapter 7, the final, would be Pure Determination. Beside, about chapter 3, it seem Toriel will be on the ride, maybe the chapter could make her be a better person somehow, and accept for exemple Asgore a bit more. I know, this theory seem like I said really sketchy, but I wanted to share it somewhere before it is lost in the deepness of memory. Anyway, thanks for those who took the time to read it. Have a nice day.
i always love it when a new video comes out from you its always a crazy ride the whole way ive been waiting for some hbc branded chaos since the spamton video
I don’t know how, but the TTS feels more sincere than most actual UA-camrs voices. Absolutely love your channel and theories. But this one makes a little too much sense.
I just realized, I don’t think I’ve never voiced my appreciation of your channel. I just wanted to say, I am consistently impressed with all of your content! It’s amazingly well researched and edited, I really love all the hard work you put into your content, even when it’s weird randomness or a crack-theory like this one. And your story about your disabilities and overcoming UA-cam’s monetization system was honestly just inspiring, I was cheering for you all the way through and was so glad to see you get justice. Keep up the amazing work! :]
I love the idea that Kris is trying to protect the town from something instead of just being a regular prankster, it’s easily the most sound part of the theory. The rest feels like a fever dream that kinda works. But it’s definitely something to chew on.
Congrats on the 13k followers! I've been enjoying watching your theory videos for a while now. They're all very entertaining, even the crack theory videos 😅
You ever notice Snowdin Town seems to contain the Don't Forget leitmotif & that just happens to be the snowy place with a Christmas tree, a Christmas deer, a bipedal deer, the politics bear, & a resident who makes crossword puzzles? Here's a crackpot theory for you. Noelle's mom's name is Snowdin Holiday, she started Snowdin Town, & she lives in the cabin in the woods by the cliff near Snowdin Town. The person who came out & waved toward the screen is the same person who's with us in the dark. Not only is Snowdin a name in real life but a white Christmas could be called a snowed in holiday. The wall near the cliff (where Gyftrot first spawns) is similar to the eye walls in the entrance to the first dark world. That's because the nearby cave is a dark world entrance & the dogroom is the dark world. The dogshrine is also a dark world. That's why it seems to follow different rules from the main Undertale world like how its chronology follows game ports instead of narrative order & it contains references to Deltarune. Gyftrot & Glyde are both darkners. That's why you have an extremely low chance of encountering Glyde in a room he had no visible way of entering or exiting & why Gyftrot's antlers have the same eyes as the holes on the wall. That's also why both of their names have a "y" in place of an "i". The door there even has the delta rune on it & the music that plays there (Mysterious Place) has similarity to The Door from Deltarune. The ground also looks like you've crossed into a different world. It goes straight from ice to black ground with luminescent grass & mushrooms. & the interior cave the door is attached to has an artificial-looking roof. I don't know if this means anything but Rudy+Snowdin=Rudin. Maybe the Rudinns were formed from a diamond necklace that belonged to Noelle's parents & was lost in the school by Noelle or Dess & that's why a group of Rudinns is called a necklace? Viewed from this context, the Rudinn entry seems weird. "Said to be someone's best friend, but maybe not. Shine on, you lazy diamond!" A creature who shines in the dark & represents diamonds which often represent a promise in people's hearts? Edit: Actually, if the dark world town in Deltarune is named after the player whose actions helped form it & Snowdin Town is named after Noelle's mom, doesn't that mean the entire underground between The Ruins & New Home is a dark world? Maybe built as a way to give monsters more room to live in the underground? Maybe the reason the atmosphere varies so jarringly from section to section (grassy ruins, snowy forest, wet grassy cave, giant volcano, normal castle city) is because each area represents the needs of the monsters living there. Muffet & her spiders can't survive the cold of Snowdin, even long enough to cross it & Undyne almost died from sprinting into Hotland so how did spiders & fish people even get trapped in the undergound together in the first place unless Snowdin & Hotland weren't originally there? The undergound being a dark world could explain how Snowdin is so big, how it can snow there, why Waterfall looks so similar to the first dark world from Deltarune, & why the ability to save only works in the underground just like Kris' ability to save only works in dark worlds.
Holy crap that's a good theory. Also I think the dog shrine will be a open world, optional dark world in chapter 6 that can only be accessed by donating all the money possible from light world choices (stealing from asriel and selling undyne's chocolates gives you money)
I don't know why you thought you'd look crazy for this theory, this is wonderful as always. Deltarune is already crazy... Relatively speaking, this is FAR from anything out of the ordinary
One does have to wonder- how would this information be doled out? If stuff like the optional dialogue about kris hiding under noelle’s bed and noelle freezing at the ice-e logo is important to knowing about this roaming monster, how would we learn that? It’s a connection that works from our perspective but doesn’t fit very well into a narrative where those encounters may never have happened.
your videos always are so high quality, I feel like a kid watching a cartoon bc it's so entertaining while also being really informative and interesting! you're awesome!
hmmmmn, after the whole Spamton Sweepstakes and Noelle posting about how she thought that the Ice-e's pizza box winked at her...... maybe this theory holds more truth than we initially thought?
This is the best April fools video I have ever seen. I was a bit hesitant because of the date, but it defiantly was worth it. I always look forward to your videos. Thank you so much for doing this.
oh wow this video was very well made and fun to watch. To be honest something in hear has to be right as it kind of makes sense. Also congrats on the 12k!
with what we have in JUST 2 deltarune chapters (and undertale) i think there's no way in h"e"ll that ICE-E won't play a major role in the story in a certain way
Dude, i have no idea how you make these videos, Seeing all these little details i could never ever in a million years see. Youre one of few youtubers who consistantly cheer me up when i see them in my notifications. You have awesome skills/talents, and i really hope this channel works out well for you, or whatever you end up doing :D
Honestly though, I don't think people pay enogh attention to Ice-E, he's being brought up way too many times in deltarune, there's a lot of things about it that really don't make sense in a creepy way, like serously, people, wake up #IceEIsReal
Hello I just wanted to say that I really like your videos. The theorizing is good, the animation is good, the humor is good! I don't know what else to say other than thank you for making these videos.
Uh oh! I made a mistake! Apparently the tiny-kris-running sprite *is* used! Infact it's used in a plot-mandatory cutscene, so we all actually saw it already. So how did we all miss it?
Well you see, it's only used for a couple of frames, when Kris is jumping into the dark world with Susie at the beginning of chapter 2. Oops! Credit to Jason llirmwl
for that eagle-eyed catch.
... okay here's the rest of the FAQ:
Q: Wait why did you suggest Noelle's mother is on the roof? The dogs don't mention a roof.
A: Oops! That's my bad, I don't know why my brain just assumed that. Maybe I imagined a mansion wouldn't have floor-accessible windows....?
That doesn't make any sense though, sorry about that! I don't even.
Q: I just want to watch the Jevil part on infinite repeat, how do I...?
A: I got you covered dawg: ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxrKRln2y3YusT6JpjIDy3OYDybTqk44NB
Q: Wait are you being serious or....?
A: Welcome to Schrodinger's Seriousness, I am, at all times, both joking, and conveying some element of the truth.
Q: Are you okay?
A: I think "March Madness" describes my last month pretty well, so I'm gonna make smaller videos to recharge during April.
Obvious the ideal would be 'take a break dang it' but uh, the algorithm is watching. It's always watching...
Q: I noticed a glitch!
A: This is a very glitchy video. Some of this is corner cutting, some of this is intentional.
Q: Did you mean to make that part at 13:12 a Freezeframe bonus?
A: Aw crap this is what I get for editing at 2am.
Try this....? ua-cam.com/video/ftQNVAY6KeU/v-deo.html
And if that doesn't work it's just a freezeframe of the Ice-E's Pizza Place next to the First Dark World (the closet) and the words "Why do the color schemes match?"
I first noticed the ICE-E conspiracy when I was making the Closet Darkworld, you see, and wondering if there were any other parts of the game that match the aesthetics. And while the basements 'sort' of match, ICE-E's pizza-lair, behind the counter matching disturbingly well, including a blood-like sauce substance dripping from the counter.
You ever make an entire video because of a particular observation, but then you literally only mention the observation in a fraction of a second and it gets lost to the abyss?
No? Just me? Okay then.
Q: You really like April Fools Day, huh?
A: I really do. As a kid I used to get sick a lot on April 1st because I'd plan these super elaborate pranks and tire myself out from the stress/excitement of it all.
♫ Just another April First for HalfBreadChaos ♫
Q: Why do you keep marking the 'not real screenshots?' It's pretty obvious they're not real gameplay.
A: I use a lot of footage and screenshots from parts of the game people miss, and it makes me anxious that people won't be able to tell obscure gameplay footage from some of the more elaborate edits, so if it's not beyond a shadow of a doubt, I figure I might as well make it easy to tell.
Q: Where did you get the Asriel and Dess sprites?
A: I just kinda tweaked the Noelle sprite, and Asriel's sprite from UT. Those aren't game files. I also edited the tiny Kris to have a front-facing sprite, since the only thing in the game folders for them is the sprite of them running up.
Q: At 13:40... where did you get that sprite of ICE-E?
A: I believe that's from the ICE-E mini game Toby received as a birthday present, but the details of said game appear to be lost in space and time. If you have a copy of the game from when it was a downloadable, gimme a poke.
Q: Where can I find the voice of Jevil? Does he do commissions?
A: Yep! Find his commission details on Twitch here: twitter.com/zedynamo?lang=en
You can also see more epic Jevil-Voicework from him on www.twitch.tv/hellhandbasket
This... this isn't sponsored btw. I just had a lot of fun with that part.
Q: I want the patreon link but can't find it!
A: UA-cam descriptions sometimes bug out, here ya go: www.patreon.com/HalfBreadChaos?fan_landing=true
take your time dude, you are awesome!
Holy shit, this helped me piece together my elements theory!
There are two axis of Deltarune's story: Internal and External. The internal is all contained within the story and the external is the combination of the of the explicit implications of the metalore, and the implications of what is not explicitly contained in the story.
So, storywise, you have a positive/negative binary. Combined two binaries and you get a T chart: The Primary Elements of Light versus Dark, "Morality", and Fire versus Ice "Entropy".
The primary elements are not seperate, but all part of the same whole.
The secondary elements come from applying the elements to story structure, creating a sort of "possibility cube". There are eight internal "prescriptive" elements, like how a cube can be divided evenly into eight smaller cubes, and six external "descriptive" elements.
The descriptive external elements are the six elemental types in combat: Morality here is interpreted in story terms- comedy and tragedy. The four primary elements become a tertiary sliding scale: aggression, neutral, passive: That being the reaction to the situation.
Comedy x Aggression: Creative
Comedy x Neutral: Supportive
Comedy x Passive: Productive
Tragedy x Aggression: Violence
Tragedy x Neutral: Insanity
Tragedy x Passive: Obsolescence
The the prescriptive elements describe what mode of the story the character pushes forward. It "prescribes" a motive to their actions;- This is why it has been so hard to understand this aspect at this point in the story: we have three out of eight of the clues. And thus for now, I will let this remain unnamed.
I'd love to chat if you are also interested, if not, I'll keep passively enjoying this content :).
THE SIX ELEMENTS ARE FLAVORS.
oh no. oh no no no. I've realized Gaster's true motive. Oh no. He's been RUNNING. Oh no. no.
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH
Forget “everything connects to Gaster” theories now it’s “everything connects to ice-e” theories
In Deltarune, you’re either Gaster, Ice-E, Asriel, inside of Kris, or a teenager.
AND ICE-E CONNECTS TO GASTER
@@michaelkindt3288 damn it, lancer managed to be all of those, i guess lancer is a god
@@JocaPlays87
Always has been
@@truemori6700 Gaster connects to ICE-E lol
Something to note about the whole "Noelle button puzzle" thing: Kris may not like nearly shocking Noelle, but if you move off the button repeatedly when Noelle *isn't* close to the laser, it will prompt Noelle to jokingly ask if Kris wants a treat to stay still. If you answer yes, Noelle will say that Kris sounds very genuine. I think Kris does indeed enjoy pranks and teasing, but only harmless ones.
Plus, if Kris is Chara's Deltarune counterpart to some extent (Dreemurr child, likes knives, chocolate, etc), then having them enjoy pulling pranks as well makes sense.
i feel like kris probably just looks hurt knowing that WE are making them almost hurt noelle. she sees it as one of their funny little pranks, but to kris, its something they cant even control.
@@CreativelyJake That too
@@NRobbi42 pretty sure toby fox said that deltarune has nothing to do with undertale
@@yoahnoah9780 He didn't say that. Tust me, I've read all the interviews and he's very specific with how he words his answers. The real question is to what degree are the two worlds related?
honestly toby is insane enough that i think Cold Barney The Dinosaur being the key to everything is completely reasonable
Purple Guy 🤝 Purple Guy
Abducting Children
@@NRobbi42 Fnaf's purple guy Is obviusly weaker than Deltarune's purple guy
@@Chaotic_Overlord
But he always comes bacc :(
@@davisdf3064 but to ICE-E you’re just a snacc
Looks too fat to be gaster.
Okay, hear me out here; Ice-E/Nightmare is the final boss of the weird route and your reward is just a single slice of really soggy pizza that heals one HP
Oh god, i can accept Pizza that heals little... BUT SOGGY PIZZA?!
@@davisdf3064 If you play through the whole game purposely choosing the options that bring most suffering to everyone, you kinda deserve way worse. Like a *cheeseless* soggy pizza
@@pablopereyra7126 a soggy none pizza with left beef
@@pablopereyra7126 no, a soggy pizza dipped in a weird flavor of milk with icecubes in it. and the cheese is a disgusting flavor of cheese.
@@epikitee2186 Not even left beef, thats too funny for doing that to Noelle
Therapist: Ice-E isn't real he can't hurt you
Ice-E: _Eldritch interdimensional horror_
intensifys
I wanted to like this comment but then i noticed it has 666 likes soooo......
It just occurred to me that WE are the shadow that awakened in kris’s heart and considering what he says about it being in the knights hand would mean that we’re being played by the knight(we’re playing the knights game) so what Dess and Noelle saw was probably our original body or gaster because whatever they saw probably had to do with why we’re in kris’s body in the first place. it’s also likely we weren’t the only one controlling kris considering how kris seems to have been fighting a soul before the game started(hence the bird cage and toriel talking about how kris” does this sometimes” when he leaves on the sink.
Also she could be stuck on the character creation menu considering the scratching noises......
(omega Flowey laugh)
o_o
ICE'Es actually being hell would be the funniest and most brilliant play on words in the game. I'd love to see a creepy cryptic corporste greed based dark world in the restaurant.
Brings new meaning to the phrase, "When Hell freezes over."
@@normal6483 In Dante's Inferno the bottom of Hell is a giant frozen lake
@@normal6483 Toby is exactly the type to do that.
Turns out Deltarune actually has the norse "Hel" instead (their version of Hell, was actually extremely cold)
Burgerpants must’ve gotten more vacation days
In the sprites using the debug mode the purple character sprite reads:,, spr_npc_icemascot_fake". Every other mascot is described as :,,icemascot1" and ,,icemascot2".
The purple one is the only one that reads : "fake"
OH MY GOD ADSHSSNFKJS
I just thought it was a reference/joke to purple guy from fnaf
he also gets close to noelle’s mom when he is in city hall…
@@skimbi OH NO
Makes perfect sense actually.
Idk if it will be exactly that but that purple character is DEFINITELY suspicious!
I'm willing to bet there's some truth to this, not that Ice-E is the literal dangerous creature, but symbolism, maybe there's a similarity of whatever killed Dess took that shape in a dark world
There's too much of this for it to not have at least a little bit of truth
Well the dark world does bring these inanimate objects to life, if the bunker has a dark world in it, maybe some Ice-E's merch was brought to life and that's what ended up killing Dess
@JPeri05 Dreams?
@JPeri05 Yeah, but I understood that as Mtt going to the computer and drawing that body in ms paint then deleting it... after all, deleting a file makes it be still there just inaccesible by normal means, until the bits that it was get overwritten by something else, which is why swatch (a color square of a paint software) is the one talking about that "dream"
@JPeri05 thanks
knowing toby's tendency to subvert expectations i think it's entirely plausible for ice e to secretly be some sort of overarching demonic force lurking in the darkness, tormenting the people of hometown
As much as this feels like it could happen, I don’t know if I like the idea that Deltarune hinges on what is effectively a FNAF Parody.
@@CreepyboomGamer Very different actually. The only real relation would be the fact that both have an evil pizzeria. And a purple guy inside that pizzeria
@@CreepyboomGamer Ice-E was a joke in Undertale that just carried on to this game, so not really.
Ice-E is a creature that feeds off, uh, pizza, loves the cold probably, has an excess of merchandising, might be someone in a sui-
Ok I see the similarities, but they're very superficial
He did make a mcdonald sample into a flowey voiceline...
For a crackpot theory published on April 1st, this makes a surprising amount of sense! ICE-E might be real.
But I swear, if freaking *PURPLE GUY* is the knight, I'm gonna lose it
As he says, he always comes back, even in other franchises
@@vilkristproductions6772 *insert Dawko screaming "WILLIAM AFTON" out of his lungs*
*insert a skeleton on a wheelchair* even if he was i think this is how he would look lol
The man behind the fountains
@@Dibdab9303 the man behind the tree perhaps?
I've always thought Ice-E was creepy, but this is quite something else. I think there's a good chance a Dark Fountain will be opened inside the P"E"ZZA Shop, at least.
ITS A DOUBLE DOOR
In Undertale as stated in the video one of the Fun events triggers the "Nightmare" in the Monster Kidz Word Search
But there's also another Fun event, the phone call where Alphys orders a .... Pizza
@@indask8 Hopefully Alphys didn't inject it with Determination.
FIVE NIGHTS AT ICE-E'S????????
@@vilkristproductions6772 WAS THAT THE BITE OF XX!?
oh hey, apparently on the spamton sweepstakes thing there's a hidden link to a story written by a young Noelle which says that the Ice-e on a pizza box which was in her home winked at her
Ice E also has strange connections to the everyman, as well as the weird muscular ice E has a weird thing for medieval words and claims to have blood. Monsters don't have blood.
WAIT... Could Ice-E be the knight?!
@@CombustableLemon No. Noooooo
@JPeri05 but in a door in town a monster says how it feels like to be a human made of blood, if they are made of blood this doesn't make sense
@JPeri05 Wait..
The bunny does imply they don't have blood, but Susie MIGHT have blood,
Which means monsters are split into 2 categories again, Monsters with blood, and those without. I guess Humans do exist and Monsters are on the surface?
Ice-E supposedly is called a crytid to small children to scare them, makes sense, although the rumor might have some lore implications?
There's also the Wizard who is said to be in the hospital for self induced injuries, but he speaks about Magic, which could just be interpreted as the guy is insane, as it is implied, but Toby is known for misdirection.
I actually really like this theory. It definitely feels like the "creature" the dog gang were talking about has be brought up again eventually, even if it turns out to just be some kind of guard animal. Tho I don't think it's ICE-E lol. The idea that Kris isn't actually a prankster but their attempts to protect others were interpreted as pranks is very interesting!
I was always under the assumption it was kris
It would also explain where they get milk, they milk it from the creature
@@fartyfazbear1932 WHAT
Might not be Ice-E, but they're important, both ice-e and the mysterious shadow hopping criminal
I think it relates to the smile in the dark of the spamton dungeon and on the t.v and the fact that kris was scared after the spamton fight, the speculation gets deeper, neat tho
This is actually a pretty good theory, I personally had a bad feeling of Icey and the mascot as burger pants doesn’t recognize him. Plus Toby once used Icey face in profile pics before. Could just be harmless, but there is a small possibility that it’s actually evil
There's a funny little theory that Gaster is Toby, the dog is almost confirmed to just be his messenger, it was literally sent to relay a message from Toby during a live event, plus his account just turning into Gaster was uh, interesting.
So if Gaster is Toby, and Toby is also Ice-E, then..?
@@averagegenzguy2751 I always thought Toby is both GAster and The dog
the Dog is Yang Toby
and gaster is Yin Toby!
@@Videospiel-Man5730 that would make sense too
@@averagegenzguy2751 gaster is ice e
Something interesting with Ice-e being referred to as "hell" is something I don't see mentioned a lot with Gaster. Gaster is often connected to 666 in the code, so it does seem like Gaster is also a part of "hell".
There are tons of connections to be made with hell. Jevil's "Hell's roar bubbles from the depths" comes to mind.
Wouldn't be surprised if this was building up to a war between Heaven and Hell, or the Angel and Gaster & the titans. If ICE-E really is an abombination created by Gaster, then it makes sense it would go after the Holidays (if we assume either Dess or Noelle is the Angel).
guess hells frozen over, eh?
@@ultravioletcatastrophe There is a "Holy/Electric"element in the game
@@averagegenzguy2751 Me: Readies my Broom
(He Had a gaster profile pic while im writting this)
This is ALARMINGLY well connected...
I'm gonna keep thinking about this while playing now, if it isn't part of the main plot I want some secret super bonus boss against Ice-E.
Ha! Ice-E being the creature that stalks the light word. Pffft, when hell freezes over!
Wait a second...oh no. OH NO-
You know what they say... ICE-E's P"E"ZZA is H"E"LL.
WhAt hAvE y Ou D O N E?
hehehehe snowgrave go brrrrrrrr
Hey, is it cold in here or is it just me?
Some stuff you miss or overthink but
.. the ice-e graffiti is drawn in the same color as the hint about the tree that gives you the egg
Oh, wow
the incredible amount of detail & care that goes into your videos is so refreshing! you are so awesome
Fr, their style of video is so full of content and fun
@@neutralclownpose3928 The only think I can think about is that their videos must need a LOT OF TIME
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"Nightmare will awaken in your hearts"
This is literally the first thing we see in the game, us the player "awakening" in a heart
Though I don't think whatever then "thing" is is the player or gaster, rather it's something else (not chara)
Watch it be more players
@@officersoulknight6321 Watch the stain and birdcage meaning there was another player, and they were a playtester, then there's the player in real time, and THEN comes someone representing a person in a future where Deltarune is considered something of a retro game. Absolute chaos... chaos.
@@Estra_Estra or the stain isn’t blood or rust but instead peeperoniss flavored peeza and it all points back to ICE-E
ARE WE ICE-E?!
@@officersoulknight6321 deltarune mmorpg
Personally, I view the reading that Kris felt hurt by the electric wall puzzle as them feeling guilt over their past actions. You'll notice every instance of their dark pranking tendencies are in the far past tense, suggesting that at some point they realized how much it was outputting and straining their relationships with everyone close to them. Now in the modern context, they've outgrown this harmful behavior and are overall regarded as much much more chill.
13:46
You’re looking at that wrong. That’s Ice-E wearing a purple suit.
I think I can actually come up with a connection between Ice-E and Gaster. Gaster fell into the Core, right? And what's used to cool the Core? The blocks of Ice from Snowdin, where we first meet Ice-E? COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!!!
this is genuinely such a terrifying connection I never considered before.... woah
Gaster is a block of ice confirmed
(but seriously, I like this connection)
We don't know that gaster fell into the Core - just that he fell into 'his creation'. It's more likely to be the machine that Sans is trying to fix (and, according to Toby Fox, never will - this is the best possible outcome, he says... but of Undertale, or... Deltarune?)
@@EmbiggenedJ or falling down is actually refering to the fallen down state
Perfect! I love this!
There is now a cryptid kind of ad for Ice e on the Deltarune site. Clicking it leads to a young Noelle's blog entry where she gets scared when she believes Ice e on the pizza box winked at her, and links to her sister's entry, which redirects to a missing page.
Missing page? Perhaps you're using the wrong name...
You've put out some of the most interesting and niche deltarune theories I've seen, and I am in love with it all. This channel is just what I needed now that I've been hit by the Deltarune hyperfixation bug again, and I'm so glad its gained so much traction!
I do agree there is some nefarious force in the light world. Though personally I think it was what slashed the tires.
I think the sound that plays during Entry 17 is meant to connect Entry 17 to the dark world, not connect the dark world to Entry 17, if that makes sense.
Bruh what Kris slashed the tires they literally jumped out the window to do it.
Unless you mean it’s what possessed him, which is fair
@@littlemoth4956 I think it's a red herring, similar to what toby did at the end of chapter 1. I wouldn't be _surprised_ if Kris was the one who slashed the tired, but it's not where I think this is going.
@@lasagna3289 i could see that. maybe kris caught something outside, but tried to stop them from slashing the tires
@@littlemoth4956 Kris went out to steal the pie ingredients from the car
@@littlemoth4956 Them.
Half Bread talking about Grevity Falls and having that yellow triangle there at 14:17 is peak referencing.
Between Kris' connections to water, Ice-E being real, and the Snowgrave Route: Toby has some subliminal water messaging he'd like to tell everyone.
Actually, now that you've mentioned it, it's interesting that we meet those weird smiley faces in the Ch 2, and we see another smile at the end... There seems to be a high concentration of weird smiles in Deltarune.
AHAHA! THE SMILING MAN THAT MUFFET MENTIONS WASN'T METTATON, IT WASN'T FLOWEY, AND NOT GASTER EITHER, IT WAS ICE-E ALL ALONG YES AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I love how HBC's soul trait is Patience, a trait every theorist needs.
I did not expect this at all, but goddamn I kinda see it and will probably be on the lookout for him on the next few chapters.
The thing from the dogs in jail also caught my attention, seems like something that's sorta hidden, but might be very important.
Thanks for the video, you always put quality content out, the editing in this one was insanely good, I loved all the details and effort you put, absolutely goated.
The idea if there being a cryptid in the town, a threat that kris Susie and noelle have no real way to deal with outside of the dark world, and kris being the only one trying to stop it, only able to use a simple knife as a defense...that’s honestly really terrifying. I’ve had thoughts of how fights in the light world may come to pass but this one seems pretty interesting.
I nEvEr tHoUGht iT T H A T C://"Way"
OH GOD THE FUNDRAISER CONFIRMED IT
I suspect that whatever shadow we’re talking about might definitely have the connection to the shadow crystal bosses, being that there’s three different spellings of giasfclfubrehber, giasfelfebrehber being a fairly important part of accessing the basement, I actually really like the idea that there’s a hidden secret in giasfclfebrehber, I would imagine that it could be an anagram, however at this point it could be too easy, awesome video by the way
10:23 this became far less cracked after the sweepstakes
HOLY FUCK YOU WERE RIGHT, WHICH MEANS ICE E IS UNDERTALE FREDDY FAZBEAR
MORE LIKE HE'S FUCKING WILLIAM AFTON
HOW IN THE NINE CIRCLES OF THE UNDERTALE FANDOM DID THEY GUESS THAT CORRECTLY?! HOW!?!
Like so this rises to the front of the comments section.
I get it is April fools day and all, but this a very solid theory, and honestly I am totally down for that to be the case.
Imagine toby fox watches this and gets inspired. If ice-e appears more in the next chapter I'm going to die laughing.
He's already finalized the story and major characters a long time ago.
@@ivythay4259 i know, but like making ice-e appear slightly more just to make people go insane over it would still be feasible and funny as hell
@@ivythay4259 he did but we see recent memes all over of chapter 2
C://"Same"
5:33 - i litterally blinked at the last second of this frame when it stared to fade out and I didn't noticed that smile in the window but then when I oppened my eyes when this frame almost completely fainted out I actually saw that smile but only briefly and when I actually realised what I saw it was already gone - so it basically felt as if I was hallucinating it... That was very weird
Kris being the one on the Holidays roof would also explain Rudy's comment on Kris being tangled up in their christmas lights.
Ohhhh shit! That point about Noelle blocking out truamatic experiences is fantastic! It's such a small detail but could mean so much. I never thought that this could be being used as secret forshadowing or something. bravo for spotting it
Agreed
5:02 while it might seem like nothing is wrong if you look back at spamton as a parallel you cut his strings the only thing keeping him from freedom(mirroring Kris’s soul) he falls to the ground the only thing keeping him together we’re the thing keeping him from freedom. This doesn’t have much to do with this theory but I thought I would get it off my chest.
FUCKING FINALLY. I've been waiting for somebody to talk about Nightmare Mode and Jevil's warning.
I assumed that the "Nightmare" was referring to snowgrave, though. I figured that was why Nightmare Mode depicts a creepy snowman- maybe somebody who was frozen to death. But who knows?
The snowman is Berdly after being covered in snow.
The scaries part is that there are things from the Spamton Sweepstakes or whatever it calls that build upon this and fits perfectly.
you were right. you were right. you were right. you were right.
Help. I'm terrified that Ice-E will now be the Chapter 4 Secret Boss. Help!
Or chapter 3
so, the spamton sweepstake came out, and theres a post from noelle saying she actually saw ice-e wink at her holy. shit.
I was just saying to my friend some time ago, that I would LOVE to fight a glitched out hellish Ice-E in the future chapters! Like, there's a build-up! And Kris really either loves Ice-E or is investigating something. Either way, it's exciting!
Oh my god, the entire meltdown once ICE-E comes up, combined with the editing and the slowly speeding up THE WORLD REVOLVING is just, chef's kiss. I can't stop laughing. This video is a masterpiece
This theory would also explain each route differently with
With the pacifist route, Kris' view you the player as too soft and would see you hesitating against the Nightmare. In the weird route, you are view as too bloodthirsty and one that would hurt even they're allies, friends and family example being Noelle as you literally broke. Despite they're different outcome you have one common trait- You are a powerful soul and if you fall into the hand of that thing, game over.
I do like the idea of something dangerous lurking on the light World other than the knight, but i don't think it will happen, though i must admit, everything abaut ice-e always Confused me
I do think there may be some sort of terrifying creature haunting Hometown, or at least the dark world, but I doubt it’s Ice-e. That would be ridiculous even for Deltarune standards. However, I still think the thing that attacked the wet-nosed bandits might still be Noelle’s mother. Since they probably tried to break in during the night, and caused a lot of noise, waking up Noelle’s mom, who scared them off.
But Kris had to have seen something in the bunker. And the unused goner code, which is theorized to be spoken by Dess, mentions scratching sounds. While that could refer to many things, it brings to mind something with sharp claws. And if Kris is aware of Dess being trapped in the dark world, then maybe them creating the fountain in chapter 2 is Kris trying to look for clues to her whereabouts. And them slashing Toriel’s car tire and opening the door could be them trying to get the police to be aware of the dark world. But what would Kris need Undyne’s help with? What kind of foe does Kris believe they need the help of someone who benchpresses a car in order to take down?
This has shaken my entire perception of Deltarune, well done. I knew Kris seemed a little too nice to be just the village "weirdo"
This would line up strangely with the "preparation theory". The theory that we or even Kris performing the snowgrave route is in some way goading the power out of Noelle to make her powerful enough to withstand and combat something, most thinking they/we powering her up is for the dark prophecy.
Yessss!
Found your channel not that long ago, already seen ALL of your videos, and wanted to see more, the THEORY spirit I have sensed, was very strong. Even if this is just an April Fools video, I very appreciative your content! Hope that nothing happens in your life and You will continue cheering me, and the rest of your audience, by your uploads!
GL
Edit: at the moment of writing the comment, I haven't watched the video. It IS nightmare, that awakened in your heart after you have decomposed the evidence.
And now it will live with you.
Forever.
Maybe THIS is the actual incomprehensible truth that made Jevil and Spamton go insane. 'Cuz it sure did with me, you, and other people that have watched this NIGHTMARE of a theory. After watching the video, before I wrote this comment, I was continuously laughing for 5 minutes.
You know why.
The logic that a prankster would be fine with being pranked makes sense. But not grounded in any reality. The world is full of stone-throwers in glass houses. Nothing about Kris taking a prank poorly makes me think that this means they don't prank others. When you bring real things into a theory, you sometimes have to discard logic.
The rest is really damn solid. Surprisingly so.
Point wasn't that Kris was offended, it was that Noelle thought it was unnatural, and boy howdy, when Noelle says something is unnatural in this game, it's important.
Honestly the best part of this vid was finding out that you're getting so much support. Really hope you're able to support yourself with this because your content is so good & you seem like a good lad, would love to see you be able to make stuff through the entirety of Deltarune's lifespan and beyond. This theory was wild it's disturbing how much evidence it has LMAO ice-e is god
The fact that ICE-E was also in the spamton sweepstakes, and in one of the few Toby Fox pictures we have makes this incredibly weird theory age even better????
If it makes you feel any better I already had suspicions of my own that Ice-E was more important than he seems before watching this
same here!
in the wake of the spamton sweepstakes, im further convinced that ice-e is real
The kris running animation isn't actually a younger kris; it's just the one that Kris uses when running to jump into a dark world in Ch2, right? Looks the same to me? They're smaller because they're hunched over
I still think that when Deltarune is complete, the whole fandom will have headaches to understand EVERYTHING, I mean, right now it's already complicated and with hint to new things that lead to new theories and AAAAAAAAAA
I feel like the first two chapters have mostly been introduction and setup. We have a mountain of questions that are mostly going to be answered, but until then we pump out theory content til 2024.
@@NRobbi42 i still think the game (or at least chapters 3-5) will be out before then
toby fox already said he has the entire game's story finished, and apparently chapter 2 mainly only took so long because they were reworking the game's engine at that point. he even said outright that finishing chapter 2 will make the process of developing the rest of the game much more quick and efficient. all that plus the fact he has an entire team now, i really think he just wants us to expect we have to wait another 3 years but pull a fast one on us and like, release that shit this september out of nowhere.
could just be wishful thinking, but, idk, makes sense to me
Man what's even happening in UNDERTALE????? 😭😭😭😭😭
@@Estra_Estra Lol
You know what? You’re probably the coolest, nicest UT/DR theorist youtuber I’ve had the pleasure to stumble upon. Like, your jokes and energy land even with a tts voice, you never shy away from the disclaimers reminding people to be kind and respectful (we all need a lil’ reminder, even the best of us) and being so damn observant and open-minded to come to crazy yet plausible conclusions, always managing to get my full attention in the process.
Keep doing your good work (with given breaks, of course). Hope you’re doing well!
No. Ice-E related to gaster is actually more true (half being a joke, half being unironically true).
I remember a line from susie about Ice-E frothing his mouth and then screaming "giasfelbreher". "Giasfelbreher" sounds a bit like gaster.
Ice-E could even mean "I see Everything" or "I seE". And sans is also the one that gives you the word search with ice-e in it.
Wasn't there also a dialogue about kris saying to noelle that ice-E ate children or something?
@@tornadix99 Yes.
@@tornadix99 It was from Noelle complained about it
@@tornadix99 while she's on your party
@@tornadix99 tbh i think that's just a silly reference to FNAF......... but honestly, yeah, sure, deltarune may have a canonical serial killer and cannibal of children, why not at this point, anything is possible
Hello HalfBreadChaos,
First, I want to say I love your videos, you got me back in theorizing about this game.
As such, as some kind of retribution, I wanted to share a sketch of a theory I made, for you or for anyone who somehow see this comment.
Anyway, here is the thing :
For the release of the second Chapter, we learnt there was going to be a total of 7 chapters, and it instantly reminded me of the seven human souls from Undertale. As such, I started thinking about the general themes of each chapter, and they somehow match the souls, in order of the Photoshop Flowey fight :
Chapter 1 is Patience : You have to wait for Susie to understand all by herself that violence is not a solution and cannot do much to change her except to wait she learn by herself.
Chapter 2 is Bravery : Noelle is a generally scared character who, at the end of the chapter, finally stand for herself and her friends, saving the situation. We can also argue that Berdly represent general Bravado as he act like a hero (while sucking at it).
This would mean Chapters are in order : 3.Integrity , 4.Perseverance , 5.Kindness (probably in link with Ralsei ?) , 6.Justice , and finally Chapter 7, the final, would be Pure Determination.
Beside, about chapter 3, it seem Toriel will be on the ride, maybe the chapter could make her be a better person somehow, and accept for exemple Asgore a bit more.
I know, this theory seem like I said really sketchy, but I wanted to share it somewhere before it is lost in the deepness of memory.
Anyway, thanks for those who took the time to read it. Have a nice day.
after the sweepstakes thing and the Ice-E hidden thing, this might actually have some real substance....just a lil bit
i think why kris slashed the tires is do undyne could come over and see the darkworld exists since she keeps saying she thinks it's a joke
i always love it when a new video comes out from you its always a crazy ride the whole way
ive been waiting for some hbc branded chaos since the spamton video
I don’t know how, but the TTS feels more sincere than most actual UA-camrs voices.
Absolutely love your channel and theories. But this one makes a little too much sense.
I just realized, I don’t think I’ve never voiced my appreciation of your channel. I just wanted to say, I am consistently impressed with all of your content! It’s amazingly well researched and edited, I really love all the hard work you put into your content, even when it’s weird randomness or a crack-theory like this one.
And your story about your disabilities and overcoming UA-cam’s monetization system was honestly just inspiring, I was cheering for you all the way through and was so glad to see you get justice. Keep up the amazing work! :]
Ice E is real cryptid now
I really wanna see someone go in depth with this theory you’ve gotten me hooked on it
9:38 "In your little cell" is actually jevil takling about how he thinks the king locked his entire kingdom in a jail cell,
Pizzeria dark world will be fnaf. Except you fight the snowman thing and purple guy (as in the guy in the costume thing). Also spamton as phone guy.
Your content is some of my favorite, thank you so much for existing 💖
I love the idea that Kris is trying to protect the town from something instead of just being a regular prankster, it’s easily the most sound part of the theory. The rest feels like a fever dream that kinda works. But it’s definitely something to chew on.
honestly i love how your videos are so high quality
I love seeing you literally evolving from video to video, making your own style and developing new ways to expess things.
Wait....
What if Purple Guy is responsible of Dess' dissapearence?
NOOOOOOOO!!!
sounds like canon, actually
DESS IS CASSIDY ‼️‼️‼️
Congrats on the 13k followers! I've been enjoying watching your theory videos for a while now. They're all very entertaining, even the crack theory videos 😅
imagine your face seeing the ice e sighting on the sweepstakes
You ever notice Snowdin Town seems to contain the Don't Forget leitmotif & that just happens to be the snowy place with a Christmas tree, a Christmas deer, a bipedal deer, the politics bear, & a resident who makes crossword puzzles? Here's a crackpot theory for you.
Noelle's mom's name is Snowdin Holiday, she started Snowdin Town, & she lives in the cabin in the woods by the cliff near Snowdin Town. The person who came out & waved toward the screen is the same person who's with us in the dark. Not only is Snowdin a name in real life but a white Christmas could be called a snowed in holiday.
The wall near the cliff (where Gyftrot first spawns) is similar to the eye walls in the entrance to the first dark world. That's because the nearby cave is a dark world entrance & the dogroom is the dark world. The dogshrine is also a dark world. That's why it seems to follow different rules from the main Undertale world like how its chronology follows game ports instead of narrative order & it contains references to Deltarune.
Gyftrot & Glyde are both darkners. That's why you have an extremely low chance of encountering Glyde in a room he had no visible way of entering or exiting & why Gyftrot's antlers have the same eyes as the holes on the wall. That's also why both of their names have a "y" in place of an "i".
The door there even has the delta rune on it & the music that plays there (Mysterious Place) has similarity to The Door from Deltarune. The ground also looks like you've crossed into a different world. It goes straight from ice to black ground with luminescent grass & mushrooms. & the interior cave the door is attached to has an artificial-looking roof.
I don't know if this means anything but Rudy+Snowdin=Rudin. Maybe the Rudinns were formed from a diamond necklace that belonged to Noelle's parents & was lost in the school by Noelle or Dess & that's why a group of Rudinns is called a necklace?
Viewed from this context, the Rudinn entry seems weird. "Said to be someone's best friend, but maybe not. Shine on, you lazy diamond!" A creature who shines in the dark & represents diamonds which often represent a promise in people's hearts?
Edit: Actually, if the dark world town in Deltarune is named after the player whose actions helped form it & Snowdin Town is named after Noelle's mom, doesn't that mean the entire underground between The Ruins & New Home is a dark world? Maybe built as a way to give monsters more room to live in the underground?
Maybe the reason the atmosphere varies so jarringly from section to section (grassy ruins, snowy forest, wet grassy cave, giant volcano, normal castle city) is because each area represents the needs of the monsters living there.
Muffet & her spiders can't survive the cold of Snowdin, even long enough to cross it & Undyne almost died from sprinting into Hotland so how did spiders & fish people even get trapped in the undergound together in the first place unless Snowdin & Hotland weren't originally there?
The undergound being a dark world could explain how Snowdin is so big, how it can snow there, why Waterfall looks so similar to the first dark world from Deltarune, & why the ability to save only works in the underground just like Kris' ability to save only works in dark worlds.
Holy crap that's a good theory.
Also I think the dog shrine will be a open world, optional dark world in chapter 6 that can only be accessed by donating all the money possible from light world choices (stealing from asriel and selling undyne's chocolates gives you money)
I don't know why you thought you'd look crazy for this theory, this is wonderful as always. Deltarune is already crazy... Relatively speaking, this is FAR from anything out of the ordinary
One does have to wonder- how would this information be doled out? If stuff like the optional dialogue about kris hiding under noelle’s bed and noelle freezing at the ice-e logo is important to knowing about this roaming monster, how would we learn that? It’s a connection that works from our perspective but doesn’t fit very well into a narrative where those encounters may never have happened.
This video aged like fine wine with the sweepstakes.
your videos always are so high quality, I feel like a kid watching a cartoon bc it's so entertaining while also being really informative and interesting! you're awesome!
hmmmmn, after the whole Spamton Sweepstakes and Noelle posting about how she thought that the Ice-e's pizza box winked at her......
maybe this theory holds more truth than we initially thought?
I don’t know what’s scarier: the fact that ice-e has so much evidence or that you took the time to find that much ice-e evidence.
This is the best April fools video I have ever seen. I was a bit hesitant because of the date, but it defiantly was worth it. I always look forward to your videos. Thank you so much for doing this.
Goodness that does explain why Kris opens the door out of the blue like that before creating the dark-world.
Every upload from you always keeps me entertained
oh wow this video was very well made and fun to watch. To be honest something in hear has to be right as it kind of makes sense. Also congrats on the 12k!
OH MY GOD YOU WERE RIGHT LMAO.
ICE-E IS REAL!!!
ICE-E IS REAL!!!
ICE-E IS REAL!!!
with what we have in JUST 2 deltarune chapters (and undertale) i think there's no way in h"e"ll that ICE-E won't play a major role in the story in a certain way
Gaster dropped a word search that papyrus was working on into the machine that created the deltarune universe and now ice-e is infused with reality
Dude, i have no idea how you make these videos, Seeing all these little details i could never ever in a million years see. Youre one of few youtubers who consistantly cheer me up when i see them in my notifications. You have awesome skills/talents, and i really hope this channel works out well for you, or whatever you end up doing :D
Honestly though, I don't think people pay enogh attention to Ice-E, he's being brought up way too many times in deltarune, there's a lot of things about it that really don't make sense in a creepy way, like serously, people, wake up #IceEIsReal
Hello I just wanted to say that I really like your videos. The theorizing is good, the animation is good, the humor is good! I don't know what else to say other than thank you for making these videos.
Soooo... part two on this with the Spamton Sweepstakes ICE-E lore? 👀👀👀