Could the Terrarian Kill Minecraft Steve?
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- People often joke about how strong Minecraft Steve is, but what would happen is Steve and the Terraria player were pitted against each other in a death match? Who would win in this ultimate death battle?
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Oh look, I found the oopsie doopsie net, it catches all the comments about oversights and math errors I may have made. And before you take this super seriously, know that I didn't.
Terrarian is confirmed 3d in lore
And you cannot, in good faith compare a 3d character to a 2d character.
@@calamaricalamity6757 thats what i said
@@DE1ClD3 ok.
netherite is atleast 4 times heavier than gold since it needs 4 gold
also i think tungsten is heavier
Cursor holds a 'slot' at least from what I saw in phoenixsc's video. I haven't watched the full vid so idk what contribution this makes
The terrarian holding 9999 fallen stars in one inventory slot:
What about solar fragments because fallen stars aren't actually stars
Steve bolding the water buket with infinite water
@@user-vr1ou5df8y Terrarian's infinite lava and water buckets.
@@robloxinternationalvideos6503 Yes, both can carry infinite weight.
@@Shadows_price Wait! If we look at it in a technical standpoint, water only flows from the very top of your world to the very bottom, aka Bedrock. Does water flow into Minecraft's Void?
The Terrarian and Steve: *Holds billions of pounds of gold and run around at full speed*
Beginning game: *killed by Zombie*
LMAO 😂
Don’t forget the trick shooting skeleton and a slime that come out of nowhere 😂
In master mode they can one tap too 💀 (Bedrock Minecraft's harder)
Best to consider the inventory as a magic thing rsther than lugging that stuff around
@@imaginehimhappynot for me lol. I’m having issues on expert whilst bedrock is a walk in the park for me
Dont fear the creature, that has mastered its 3D surroundings
Fear the one, that has been inprisoned in 2D for ages
Hard line
Oh I have both games
Terria can move only left and right but steve....
@@fuser9892 Jesus Christ. Terraria is canonically 3d were are just seeing it in 2d. Also in the video he explained it to be a tie.
@@The_Police_Of_UA-cam yeah... Just saying sorry if I hurt you
Steve watching the terrarian kill a whole ass eldritch horror:
*Bedrock wither behind him:* reminded of me?
@El.fish.the.chocolate Bedrock wither has like idk like 400 health.
That's less health than the Terrarian at max health.
@@drakewahl7609 no, I meant the fact that probably, Steve, after seeing how hard the boss in terraria are, it would probably trick a PTSD episode in him about the bedrock wither... That fight is really traumatic, especially if you are a java player...
@@El.fish.the.chocolateplease never make a joke again. I never usually say this but this made me cringe, and i rarely cringe.
@@frowner_and_co emotional damage
I always interpreted Terraria's 2D nature as an artistic depiction of the world for the sake of the game rather than actually being 2D in universe, as such each block would be 2 x 2 x 2ft significantly changing the strength calculations
Yeah lol, it's so silly to assume every 2D game has a canonically flat universe.
also, in the backgorund of terraria you can see more terrain stretching out behind where we play, meaning this is most probably correct
That's a fact, as clearly demonstrated by background tiles and a background that can clearly be seen IN THE BACKGROUND which requires depth 🤷🤦
@@ColeSwaney it's not just probably correct, it's factually, objectively, and demonstrably correct 🤷
i think it depends on the person. I personally like seeing it as 2d world.
"the only hostile mob the two games share is the zombie." What about skeletons, spiders and slimes?
Spiders have variations even within their games so it's harder to do that, and skeletons do damage immensely differently, and in terraria there is like a dozen different skeleton types.
@@Splatoonspyro okay but there's a lot of different zombie sprites too? ice zombie is a different mob if you're gonna be nitpicky. op's point still stands
Mostly they work very different. Skeletons use bows in minecraft, the slimes in terraria are a: smaller and b: don't split like they do in minecraft and c: have very diffrent uses with their drops, and spiders in minecraft are not even hostile, their neutral. The zombie is basically the same, being a melee attacker that sometimes holds weopons that it can drop.
@@Jackaboy3695 I agree with you however, there is the Skeleton Archer in Terraria.
Closest to a Minecraft Slime would probably be the Mother Slime
tbf this video went from. "with as less assumptions as possible" to "how many hypotheticals does it take for steve to atleast stalemate"
Yeah the terrarian is so overpowered that even with the most insane assumptions possible steve can't do anything
@@CallytheCalicoCat Terrarian isn't overpowered the games just use compltly different numbers for health/damage
@@eslin2845You could calculate the damage by comparing max health, so if The Zenith deals 50k dps, it kills a person a hundred times per second. No weapon in Minecraft could ever reach that damage. Also the difference in agility and ranged attacks is insane, meaning Steve could not touch the Terrarian.
@@Jurajoxx The best comparaison would be the mace, who could *theorically* kill a person a hundred times over through an undiscosed ammount of time used to fly up and crash down
@@JurajoxxYou forgot Steves Prized Position, COMMANDS and CREATIVE MODE
Zenith ignores invulnerability frames
...and potions/arrows of harming ignore armor.
Instant Harming would still be reduced by the Terrarian's worm scarf, beetle endurance, and more. Plus good luck to Steve hitting a guy with infinite flight and teleportation using gravity affected potions and arrows
@@randomuser.5356Steve ain’t winning dog
@@kevindunn2099 That's exactly what I'm saying. What else did you think "Steve realistically wouldn't even be able to hit Terrarian" means?
@@randomuser.5356 yes 🗿
20HP vs 500HP
Terraria's 2D plane is artistic only, since we have non-static backgrounds, working doors, the Moonlord, and walls
Not to mention there's an entire landscape in the background, including a sun, moon and stars. One could even use the parallax to calculate how far the background is from the player.
theres buuldings or i think towns if i remember right in some backgrounds
Fr, Florj.
Well yes, you're completely right. However, if he would've said that the Minecraft meat riders would've bawled their eyes out.
And don't forget the absolute best, most logical and relevant argument:
It's called a Shadow Orb not a Shadow circle
(On a more serious note the most recent box art is also 3D)
Calculating the gold bars with paper thickness is so bizarre lmao
Why wouldn't you just consider the width of the block to be the same as its height in 2 dimensions?
because if it's truly 2 dimensional, there wouldn't be a width
@@Throarbin You didn't take into account the background, which would make the world 3 dimensional
@@Throarbin but Terraria is 3d, but the pov makes it look like 2d
@@Throarbin If its truly 2 dimensional it would have 0 weight by 3 dimensional standards
@@ThroarbinThe game's box art depicts the world being 3D, only the gameplay is 2D, so the blocks being cubes is the easiest assumption
"Also try Terraria" 🤝 "Also try Minecraft"
"We don't have golden blocks in Terraria"
Golden bricks: guess I don't exist
Steve grabs unbreaking elytra, density V mace, loads of firework rockets, and a totem of undying. He flies as far as he can upwards and crashes back down on to the earth with the full might of the mace. He misses the hit and the terrarian instantly filets him with the Zenith
Depending on the version, Steve can also remotely activate ender pearl stasis chambers if a certain item is used
Rod of Harmony and rod of discord exist teleports away before the attack hits oh and master ninja gear black belt both dodge also we have to take into consideration that there is damage reduction from the solar flare armour set bonus with a solar flare shield also the frozen turtle shell with it if they’re low health which gives them even more damage reduction
What about end crystals? He doesnt have to use the mace
Not if steve has a totem of undying
@@clay8156 It wont save him from that much dps.
This video was a really bad effective argument but a fun equivalent of the kind of argument you’d have with your friend over xbox voice chat at 3am
Exactly 😂
"Nah bro! You know how heavy Netherite is?!"
terrarian vs 1000000000000 lions
“Since terraria is 2D that means everything is 2D and can’t estate the value of a cube”
The Terrarian world is canonically 3d, so all the calculations here make it seem like Steve is closer than he is in reality. The Terrarian is easily killing Steve.
Everyone debating whether Steve or the Terrarian would win
Me: Thinking how many universes they would conquer when working together
The Terrarian is at least somewhat of a good person, whereas Steve is closer to a psycopath. There isn't any world ending threat, he invades other dimensions for conquest. The Terrarian is a rather reluctant hero, it's more likely that the Terrarian would see Steve as an invader and another boss to fight.
@@KraNisOG Boss? The terrarian its going to make steve look like an ant
Throarbin: "we have reached a stalemate"
Me: if steve could use potions why cant the terrarian?
Terrarian: *Chugs thorns potion*
Steve: *Dies*
Thorns Potion only works with melee attacks though
Both could still beat Goku though.
For real....time for another video just to make the Goku fans angry
A true comment that makes dbs fans mad💀
@@Throarbin heck yeah!!!!
@@Throarbin you forgot about saitama, he's even named after the fact that he can kill anyone in one punch...
Terrarian could but steve is weak
if its a naked hand fight steve wins because the terrarian doesn't know how to punch
that made me think, why doesn't the terrarian use his hands? is he stupid?
@@suspicioussand Maybe it's below them? They can craft literal alien technology from vortex fragments. So why bother punching?
@@suspicioussand I don't think punching trees and skeletons is exactly a "smart" move
But he ALWAYS spawns in with a cooper short sword
@@suspicioussandbecause he has a axe? Why use hands?
This debate is basically what if a medieval knight fought a warhammer dreadnought
"10% more damage" while comparing zombies is bs. 20% is double of 10%.
Usually when people compare percentages they treat them like normal numbers
Like, when someone says they increase a 20% buff by 50% they usually mean they got it up to 70%, not increased it to 30%
@@starsilverinfinity This is just wrong. If you say that you increase a 20% buff by 50%, you get a 20x1.5=30%. If you say that you increase a 20% buff by 20 POINTS then you get 20+50=70%.
@@TheArtificer_ He's not wrong because he said that's how people usually treat them, not that it's correct.
@@TheArtificer_ Yeah Im not saying your wrong, Im simply pointing out that people usually treat it as addition instead of multiplication when casually talking to one another
@@starsilverinfinitymy gripe with percents is people always treat them like units, when they're really just glorified ratios
It's literally called "per cent" -> per hundred, it's a ratio of for the number of hundreds you're refering to has
"An increase of 10%" in itself is ambiguous because it's not refering to anything
Is it "an increase of 10% OF the mobs damage"?
Is it "an increase of 10% OF the other percentage"
Idk if I'm explaining it well but eitherway it annoys the hell out of me.
I guess one could argue that the default "of" is literally just 1, since that's how you convert percent to decimal anyway, but thats not always the default
"Increase 20% by 20%"
Ok sure it's increased by = 0.4 =
But it could also mean increased by = 0.24 =
But because no one ever specifies it just leaves everything vague
Math isn't supposed to be vague dammit
My main problem with the first part is that the terrarian world DOES exist on a 3d plain, we just view it as 2d, since the background and wall layers exist, i would have used the same rules from the minecraft calculations, where a block in terraria is a cube with every side being the same
Agree, also, in terraria you can place golden bars (: And that means that size of the bar is 2ft x 2ft x Z axis size. So if its a cube it will be heavier than minecraft gold probably (maybe not, i didnt bother calculating, but i believe it should be heavier)
further proven by the fact that coins spin when dropped on the ground
also the terrarian could fill their inventory with platinum bars which are heavier that gold
@@R3verse301I forgot that they can spin
@@R3verse301 i agree that the terrarian can obvioulsy carry more but he decided to use gold because minecraft doesnt have platinum and it would be unfair on steve
OBJECTION: the dryad becomes 3D when going to the world of dungeon defenders 2, and the tavernkeep and old ones army becomes 2D when going to terraria, so it stands to reason that the terrarian would become 3D or steve would become 2D when going to a setting where they would fight
The Zenith from terraria ignores immunity frames 🙂
Terraria is 3D, just viewed in 2D. There's literally backgrounds and walls and the sun in the BACK. Plus canonically it's 3D
I don't really care about "canon" for Terraria. But I hadn't thought about the dimensionality walls introduce
@@Throarbin All good tho, great video btw
@@Throarbin FYM you don't care about the canon? That's like saying you don't care about the taste of food, or about the reason for a war. If you disregard the canon, you might as well say "Steve wins because I said so"
if anyone said "its just 2d minecraft" post the 2 infected biomes and see the results
@@randomuser.5356 Canon has nothing to do with these calculations at all. Did you even watch the video??? In MC cannon it is heavily implied that Steve is the descendant of an ancient builder people that created great civilizational monuments but also world ending destructive monsters (Wither) to the point they had to build gateways to new dimensions to escape (End, Nether). Thus, if push comes to shove it is not inherently illogical to think that Steve may also possess the ability to create similar world ending destructive monsters or dimension hop (a stretch but you see the point). In Terraria cannon, the player literally defeats a GOD.
Factoring the cannon of either of these series into the debate complicates it astronomically while not adding any fun to it. This is why the video only focuses on comparable gameplay aspects between each story. Your last argument is literally a strawman of an angry Terraria fan that the video wasn't simply 10 mins of just delving into the game lore to find which one of these characters is more powerful in their cannon. I agree that the Terrarian wins against Steve (easy too), but I know if this video was just about comparing cannon, then I would not stay because that is completely subjective rankings of power.
The showdown between Minecraft Steve and the Terraria player would be legendary!
Nah they to close as friends.
@@cat_in_a_fish_bowl I agree
I don’t think you watched the video because the terrarian would win instantly
@@SVTVN1234With no prep time and Steve just sees the terrarian walking in the streets and see each other Steve is winning
The terrarian has much more op armor and weapons but Steve is much more stronger, and that’s an understatement.
Both of them: **gains FULL power**
Steve: “it’s so sad Steve Jobs died of ligma”
Terrarian: “who the hell is Steve Jobs?”
Steve: “ligma ballz” **evaporation of the terrarian**
How?
@@intruder6628probably/kill or something, but it doesn't count either way
CORNY tomato 🍅 tomato
@@intruder6628woosh
If these two met...
I think they would be friends
Steve: *jumps one meter high*
Terrarian: *jumps three times his own height*
Hmm, yes, the gravitational force appears to be the same
Maybe the Terrarian can just jump higher.
He got the legs
He jump good
Mario
oh? then explain to me why blocks can float in both games
bro making the gold the thickness of a sheet of paper, like bruh
Sure would suck if there is a literal lightsaber as a WEAK weapon in one of the games-
Terrarian wins hands down but what these glazers are not realizing is that TERRARIAN SPAWNS WITH TOOLS. No prep time and he still wins.
Steve can hit his head on trees so he can run faster, he can probably find a ruined nether portal for armour and weapons with the extra time he has, also you can spawn a starter chest too so yeah.
Hypocrite
If Steve gets a starter chest than the terrarian gets journey mode@@HyperYT-ob8fc
@@HyperYT-ob8fcThat is prep time
By just examining the gold bar you could find that the terraria world isn’t paper thin cause it’s multiple times as long as it is wide and it’s shown when placed to be a full block wide
look wat chatgpt says:
is terraria 2d game?
ChatGPT
Yes, Terraria is a 2D sandbox game developed by Re-Logic. It features a pixelated art style and gameplay that revolves around exploration, building, crafting, and combat within a 2D world. Players can mine resources, fight various enemies and bosses, and interact with NPCs in a side-scrolling environment.
but isnt it canonically 3d?
ChatGPT
Terraria is primarily a 2D game, where gameplay and graphics are presented in a two-dimensional space. However, there have been discussions and plans for a potential sequel, Terraria: Otherworld, which was intended to have a 2.5D graphical style, blending elements of 2D and 3D. This sequel was originally announced but later cancelled due to development challenges. As of my last update, Terraria remains a 2D game in its canonical form.
@@egegeyyeyeyokay and chatgpt does not know anything stop trusting ai
@@egegeyyeyeychatgpt isn't reliable.
@@egegeyyeyey first of all, using chatgpt as your argument is taking an instant hilariously bad L. it's going to know _less_ than I could after a quick google search and sometimes intentionally lies, and will even admit it can lie. it's a LLM, so its responses aren't some supergenius objective fact, just a machine trying to replicate how a human's response would sound. secondly, it's ignoring your question and talking about the art style, both times, so it's literally not addressing the question correctly
@egegeyyeyey
A) You're using chatgpt as an argument. Chatgpt isn't an omniscient source of information, it just uses information presented to it (whether or not that information is meant as a joke), and uses it to come up with a response. There's an entire meme about how the GoogleAI bot gives VERY misleading information.
B) It's clearly talking about it's gameplay, and got confused by the word, "canon."
"2D game in its canonical form" makes no sense, as the canon of Terraria isn't noted to literally be a game (a la Wreck it Wralph.) You can tell by how it says "2.5D," which isn't an actual dimensional classification in any form of mathematics, it's just a term used to describe a game design phenomenon.
The gold math done for terrarian is killing me, the terraria world is canonically 3D, we just view it from a 2D perspective
Edit: also I think that overall the math and comparisons could be done much better
Edit 2: btw since this comment got so popular, I’m gonna say this just in case, no hate to throarbin or anyone else in the replies please and thank you.
which means the terrarian could carry 4,849,003,051.2 lbs, if I did my math correctly.
plus, when you can place gold bars, that means the gold bar is just as big as the gold ore
Yeah. Just because we see it in 2D it doesn't mean it's really 2D (or that we can't make it 3D, I mean we already know the lenght and height of a Terraria block).
BTW Minecraft is 2D too through our monitors.
also, its 3D, because if it WAS 2D, the terrarian would bump into every tree, wall, enemy, npc, and every stuff that is in the backround
@@TaratheTigerSharkNo because if you place a gold bar in Terraria you can see at least three bars there, not just one.
Minecraft Steve: totems, strong armor, fought a dragon
Terrarian: Fought gods, Domain Expansion: Glass Prism
Im sorry, i was curious when I started this video, but it just feels agressively poorly researched...
Ong it’s so annoying
12:52 that's not how percentages work. if a zombie hits for 10% of a terrarians health, and for 20% of steves health, that means that minecraft's zombies hit twice as hard (not 10 percent harder) as terraria's.
Even then one might look 'well steve is actually naturally more hardy but the terrarians zombies are also stronger' or other nonsense. Guy is trying to do things that dont really make sense here.
Do we assume that the characters have the same amount of health, just measured differently, in which case the zombies deal different amounts of damage?
Or do we assume that the zombies deal roughly the same amount of damage, in which case the characters not only measure health differently, but also have different amounts of it?
@@davidburnett5049 That's just power scaling in a nutshell
@@wl-o8197 pretty much.
I thought he would just compare the average health of both zombies to get a conversion rate for terraria health and minecraft health
Just because terraria is a 2d game doesn’t mean it’s a 2d universe. Otherwise there wouldn’t be a background/walls/furniture etc…
Or do you think super Mario magically world hopped from a 2d universe to a 3d one?
your right, but I just wanted to point out that in super mario oddessy, you can actually magically switch from 3D to 2D 😅
Paper mario do it firts
Yeah, Classic Sonic would be a better comparison. He didn't magically just become 3D. Or the Metroid games, or Celeste, or the Ori games, or the early Street Fighter games...
The "Terrarian 2D" logic just doesn't fit. You don't assume common game design choices are literal unless told so.
Minecraft shield can deflect anything.
Idk tho, I’m not an expert.
I would imagine the terrarian could just keep hitting the shield until it broke, or just dump lava on Steve using a bottomless lava bucket
As seen with Piercing enchanted crossbows, piercing attacks can go through Minecraft shields
Uhhh, I mean i don't know if id say deflect because that kind of makes it sound like it causes the attacks to side to the side and not send all the energy into the shield, definitely would say block tho, however;
An axe strike disables a shield in a single hit for a few seconds(and does a bunch of durability damage to it), a piercing crossbow ignores shields, attempting to block a large slime didn't end well last i tried it (ungodly fast durability drain in java) (might have been changed tho without me knowing)
some items in terraria do have endless piercing, anything that could hit behind steve would also be able to damage him (possibly a boomerang on the way back? not gonna say it wouldn't get blocked and head back if it hit steve's shield going forward tho)
I don't believe magic damage in minecraft can be blocked by a shield if it hits the floor Infront of the user(splash or lingering) and terraria has lots of magic too.
So he definitely shouldn't fully rely on the shield
Axes:
With the piercing damage of the range of terrarian items, they might get through
Terrarian isn’t even 2D, this is easily contradicted by lore and official art 😭
You are right.
And the comics
And background tiles.
when you just realise that terraria summon class summon unkill-able beasts that will auto track you
Dont even gotta go that far. He literally bs’d his way through trying to ignore a certain green bullet 😉
entity insta kill tactic.
if they count as entities they will die
Steve can use a certain method
@@irrelevanttroll3312 How can you insta kill in minecraft?
@@maxhillai8219 u summon alot of mobs n put them on a machine which forces it to exceed the limit of entities killing all entities in the chunk
@@irrelevanttroll3312
Outside of Story mode, there is no canonical way to create a command black. As far as we know, lore wise- it was a unique relic of a bygone era that Steve cannot canonically access.
To deny the Terrarian their canonical 3D dimensionality, whilst giving Steve a dubiously canon at best God block is unfair.
one point you forgot, terraria has nukes.
1:03 "Who would be the one coming out on top?" Not the alley, that's for sure
I always imagined it as:
Terrarian is the smart one, using a passive form of magic to store their countless wares and tank hits and preform feats that shouldn't be humanly possible.
Steve is just a brute that uses raw physical strength for all that, hence why he can't hold as much stuff yet can punch a Zombie to death and break nearly any material with his bare hands, while the Terrarian absolutely needs tools.
Terrarian Twink vs Steve Hunk
@@m.blaster05terrarian holding 9999 solar fragments
Some time ago, Steve was officially depicted as the more crafty character, who brewed, traded, and did redstone. Alex was the miner and adventurer who makes progress, putting the mine in Minecraft. Though in the recent trial chambers trailer Steve was shown to be the most armed and prepared out of the whole group
@@mike-._ Steve existed longer, of course he's more prepared!
@@m.blaster05that twink can hold 9999 of throne made out of solid gold in just one slot of his inventory
I think instead Steve and the Terrarian would make out passionately
It’s cannon
Crhrjrjrhrbrjfjrjrgjyk
Neither got time for that nor got a button for that
@@VeryRGOTI mod one in 😈😈
@@VeryRGOTI "neither got time for that" fym they're both the main characters of sandbox games
people might say "minecraft steve is stronger" and others might say "the terrarian SOLOES" but we all know that both of them are really close digital friends
Minecraft: also try terraria
Terraria: also try minecraft
"terraria is a 2d space" the moon lord:
still 3d 😂
Yeah it’s still 2d… if it was 3d then a beam that goes across the entire screen in a 2d plane would be easily dodged if it was 3d
@@user-qc3di2up7r It's 2d in it's style, 3d in canon. official art (Steam trading cards, steam library banner) Shows that it's a 3d space.
@@user-qc3di2up7r Wrong, how the hell would platforms, background walls, etc, work if it was in 2d? It's 3d, VIEWED in a 2d perspective
@@helloagain.andagain.andagainjust moonlord proves its 3d MY MAN EVEN THE BACKGROUND AND CLOUDS prove its 3d
with the logic you’re using to count the safe, avengers forge, and piggy bank you should be counting the ender chest for steve, as steve always accesses the same inventory through ender chests, even if he breaks one
He didn’t count the void item, it’s the same thing, magical.
There’s a difference, the piggy bank and safe Is comparable to the shucker box since it’s just straight up storage, the ender chest is more comparable to the void bag which both were excluded
The Ender Chest is clearly meant to be a magical item as you cant carry and store normal chests in your inventory - meanwhile a safe and piggybank, internal space aside, are mundane items
@@ultranecrozma7449 id say safe piggy void and ender are all pocket dimensions and shouldn't be counted
he didnt even count Steves armor
Both can hold ungodly amounts of weight without affecting the world around them. But only the Terrarian has weapons that bypass invincibility frames.
counting piggy banks and safes but not counting ender chests is devious
also, if the terrarian can use the zenith, steve should AT LEAST be able to use a multishot firework crossbow (one in each hotbar slot, preloaded)
part of me kinda imagines steve flying around with an elytra while plinking the terrarian with firework.
I dont think the world size of terraria changes the actualy "planet". It seems pretty heavily implied that the world we play in is only an island on a planet, so world size would only change the size of that island
The lore explanation is that every terraria world is canonically it's own world, living in balance between light and dark, meaning there is a theoretically infinite amount of everything that exists in any Terraria World in just the main planet (assuming worlds aren't separate planets)
I like how he used noraml
Same :]
ikr
Steve has a bow, making the armor damage argument irrelevant
@@Themasterofkeys. A bow? Terrarian has guns
@@starboi141even if Steve would lose, he could just log out before he died lol, or he could just chunk ban The Terrarian. Also a Minecraft rail gun is a thing along with Iron Golems (that can one shot Steve in hard mode)but since this comparison isn’t on hard mode for either, I won’t consider that. You also could argue that the Terrarian could one shot Steve before he logged out or did anything but Steve could use the vanilla technique from Minecraft 1.18 to get infinite hearts from the god Apple and golden apple glitch.
Since he added explosion damage, we can reasonably say the celebration mk.2 can be used to kill steve. so steve gets clapped
"No assumptions in this video"
Bro proceeds to make Terraria literally flat despite knowing the blocks are 2 feet in all directions and it would be making no sense whatsoever, just for the sake to lower the Terrarians sheer power and make the video less 1-dimensional. Ironic.
When you remember that the Platinum coin weighs
348,900,000 MILLION KG and the average terrarian has around 50 of those after beating moon lord
wait, you're trying to say 1 platinum coin weighs that much? Where you getting that?
@@Throarbin just saw some guy's video about it😭😂
@@ThroarbinAssuming you can place a copper coin and it takes up the place of a block, you can then find its weight and multiply that by 1,000,000 to find one platinum.
@@ThroarbinI remember watching a UA-cam short where a dude explained how much 1 platinum coin weighs. He did some long ass math calculations so we assume he's right.
@@Throarbin according to Terrasteel, if a platinum coin is made up of 1,000,000 copper coins it would be 350 million kgs, but if you purely go off the size of the plat coin (according to Terrasteel's coin gun video) it would be around 1,130 kg per coin
steve uses a batman mod and terrarian uses a batman mod whoever gets 1 more second of prep time wins simple as that 🍷🗿
Vortex sniper armour exist dealing upwards of thousands of damage oh and SDMG plus glorified bullets there’s no dodging that shit
@@Molly-The-Shiny-Mega-Gardevoir no shot you replied to the type of comment i wrote with this shit
@@intensehumanbox9662 I don’t fucking understand humans I just I just like attention I’m Pokémon after all
To give the Terrarian more credit, promotional art like the console sleeve cover shows the world is 3D, so what if we assume each ore is a 2x2x2' cube?
look at the background of terraria, its completely 3D, the terrarian lives in a 3d world but chooses to stay in 2d, *hes holding back*
“Show me a good time, steve!” Type of thumbnail
"Steve, you deny your weapon.. Its purpose"
"This'll be fun!"
@@Kweli-kw3dj Let's Dance!
Zenith ignores immunity frames
And Creative Mode is completely intangible to all kinds of attacks
only thing that touches Steve is Fire,potion effects and Water in Creative mode form
@@irrelevanttroll3312there are many 'flamethrower' type weapons in terraria that deal very fast and large amounts of damage. Plus this whole thing is based on purely survival mode, cheats off.
@@rimnull5399 And Steve can easily be in 8 mins + Fire resistance
also idk how damage contributes to this
they are unscalable
@@rimnull5399 ignoring immunity frames is a direct counter argument to creative mode
@@rimnull5399 Damage doesn't matter
just because creative mode is touchable by fire doesn't make him vulnerable to it
he doesn't take dmg during it
and also Steve can give himself fire resistance that can outlast any of terrarian's potion effect
in Survival Steve can carry a cow through a leash which has infinite milk inside
so infinite strength
same Steve can use a glitch (although unethical) to gain infinite hearts
The intro music is Spaced Out by Salvati from the Spirit Mod OST, and it isn't listed in the description as one of the music sources used
God himself would be praying that neither of them die out of sheer fear.
Man you nerfed the Terrarian to hell with bizarre and nonsensical logic and the Terrarian still outpaced Steve in almost every way
Ong he was like "the terraria blocks are 2d meaning the terrarian is weak" 🤓 except thats bs because of background walls in terraria
@@pohbob he was pushing so hard to not be biased in favor of Terraria but it still came out on top anyway
@@pohbobhe forgot gold thrones which have 30 gold and zenith ignores i frames
bruh steve is in 3d dimension whereas terrarian lives in 2d dimension.this means terrarian gold could weigh as zero.Before u say they are walls and background then move terrarain into them if it aws 3d then it has a limited world.
@@andrewstephenson5825why did bro use paper as measurement😭😭😭
It's not exactly a peaceful encounter when it's a customary greeting in Minecraft to pour lava over your friend's house
@@fadeleaf845 I literally stack my friends graves in terraria
sounds like bad friends the traditional minecraft greeting is to twirk
It really isn't...
nah, its the classic repeatedly jump, crouch and punch. The terrarian would probably be very confused.
@@sleepdeprivedcactus for a few seconds, then I imagine they'd start jumping back and maybe swinging a weapon aimed straight up
Nah. They'd both die because of their power clashing against eachother.
now a more interesting idea,, who would beat the other game faster
or how well will each of them beat
Steve can carry a cow egg, meaning he can carry infinite milk
The infinite cube of water, lava and honey in terraria: Not so fast
That's not how that works that's like saying I can hold 5000 fully grown cows cause I can hold 1 baby
@@DavidHughes-v3q the cow already has milk in it when you spawn it.
you can't get a spawn egg in survival
Two water buckets are infinite water chat.
6:47 that's completely inaccurate, the world of Terraria is very clearly three dimensional, otherwise the parallax setting wouldn't exist and there would be no background tiles or actual background to see in the background 🤷🤦
Yeah, however we can't see it in three dimensions, so there's no way to know the full area of it?
@@kxs4899 educated guesses,it's not gonna be paper thin nor absurdly wide
@jon.arbuckle. okay but either way it's going to be inaccurate and likely not affect the final result
@kxs4899 not as inaccurate as sayings it's PAPER THIN, like you cam agree on am educated guess which makes the most sense, it's like me saying we don't know how much inventory steve has, what if its just a pocket dimension, makes.no sense in the terms of this argument
@jon.arbuckle. I mean it isn't really worth crying over when the side that's losing strength from calling it paper thin wins anyways no?
I know people keep counting shulker boxes as the actual weight but I always just assumed it was a pocket dimension inside that had no weight affect on the outside other than the actual weight of the shulker
Personally, I believe that since Shulkers hit you with the levitation effect which reduces your gravity, Shulker Boxes do the same for the items inside them.
I think we all knew Steve was toast.
As a Minecraft die-hard fan that's never played Terraria
as soon as I heard "Both of these characters at their peak", knowing how immeasurably harder Terraria is than Minecraft, I accepted that Steve was going to lose
Steve will win becuse the mace can deal infinite demage
@@This_is_a_normal_namethorns potion
@@This_is_a_normal_namedodge it
@@This_is_a_normal_namethe Terrarian has multiple items that give him i-frames to "dodge" attacks. That "infinite damage" is worthless.
I think if they wanted to give Steve a realistic and fair chance they should have mentioned things other than just sword damage output, things like End crystals, god apples, ebderpearls and instant damage arrows or poison, also new things like mace, jus feel like they could have been mentioned to give steve a fair chance
Throarbin: were gonna make as less assumptions as possible.
Also Throarbon: were gonna assume they are maxed out
"We are gonna assume that Terraria being 2D as literally as possible in order to downplay everything about Terraria so we can glaze Minecraft"
@@adaphion "We're gonna assume that Terraria is somehow actually 2D so that we can show that even if they couldn't do damage, Steve can't do anything."
@@adaphionratio, the entire point was that the terrarian is so strong that even if they literally couldn't attack, steve can't win.
it's advanced terraria glazing.
also wdym "that Terraria being 2D as literally as possible"?
you mean "we are gonna assume terraria being 2d is literal so we can downplay everything and glaze minecraft"?
besides, they aren't even glazing minecraft anywhere, it's just decently plain facts.
terrarian can't punch, so he loses in fist fight.
steve is way too weak if terrarian pulls up with end game gear.
@@mishagaming1075 Nah... The terrarian LITERALLY carried a spear made OUT of stars, and + theres golden bricks, terrarian soloes Steve in all manners. Also, the game IS 3d, its just viewed in a 2d space
@@glitchzop2995i know that the game is 3d.
also the stars were super small, so the calculation of weight would probably be different than actually carrying stars.
also i don't know anything about golden bricks cause i never use decorative blocks, cool info i guess.
Plus if the Terrarian isn't being restricted to one class he could also have one terraprisma or other summon out assuming no summon accessories or buffs.
Steve losses badly because of cosmology difference gameplay wise and lore wise, people doing fictional vs battles really need to learn that...
All the Terrarian would need to do is turn to his side and Steve couldn't see him...
But can still interact with the terrarian since seeing doesn't matter him doenst matter, steve can also go invisible with both dimention advantage or potions so I don't see how it would matter.
@@Greatcelestialkaligo you expect steve to click on nothing?
buttttt if hes 2d he literally cant turn sideways and even if you argue steve wouldnt be able to see him while both on the x axis, steve can simply go on the z axis and be able to see the terrarian just like how the real life player sees him
@@prettyradhandle If it's nothing that means the terrarian dies if he does that which he won't be able to do since that would mean he can trun into 3 dimensional space and from the start of the battle the are both in the same plane of dimensionality so the terrarian will be invisible from the start we are 3rd dimentional if I told you to go back in time you can't so if the terrarian can do that then steve can't use 4th dimentional space to go invisible and back and forwards in time.
In short not how that works
Bro, forgot about the bottomless water, bucket and lava bucket💀
No, there's just no parallel in Minecraft
@@Throarbin the water bucket holds infinite water due to the infinite water source glitch
@@Throarbin also hi
steve also has a bottomless water bucket, when placed on the ground, the source fills infinite water bottles
@@LBTVGAMES well, that's a glitch, which I said I'd not be taking into account. But not a bad point
the zenith ignores immunity frames from what i remember
If we are discussing the weapons vs bosses. A max damage sniper in terraria will oneshot the strongest enemy in minecraft, the warden.
this is the ramming an ethernet cable into a phone charging port equivalent of powerscaling
this guy is so bad at power scaling lol
That's just pretty much all power scaling because power scaling is inherently a silly thing. I don't inherently think all power scaling is bad it's just that most people take it WAY to seriously and have this stupid "my show/game is better than yours because this character can lift 198288e tonnes" attitude. There are very few pieces of media where character are actually even remotely consistent so although it can be fun to find all these insane feats of strength and speed these characters are usually being calculated as way more powerful than actually intended by their creators and it's not as if it actually matters who the strongest person is anyway. sorry for the stupid rant. That's just how I feel about things, lol.
@@GumbyGoons yeah it all boils down to people wanting the thing they like to be better anyway terrarian stronger
2 cosmic entities clash, the worlds tremble
All seeing immortal god slayer vs block man with muscles, yeah 2 cosmic entities fr.
6 block man with muscles*
@@Mr.Pixelated meat rider
@@koolaidmansam8yearsago273 average minecraft player behavior
@@koolaidmansam8yearsago273 Also your comment history is just full of you spamming the same "Steve beats mid terrarian" phrase. Crazy oversight on your end lil bro.
Its kinda hard to even compare the two cause their games are so different despite being pretty similar. All we can do is compare feats we can’t really know what would happen if they fought on the same playing field.
And this is mostly assuming that the 2d aspect of terraria is how the world's physics work, and isn't just an art medium for the game, otherwise the terrarian would win in all aspects.
Rq, the zenith completely ignores immunity frames, so the 15k dps was accurate
How did you get 15k? Like what accessories? I’ve only gotten to around 10k
@@aaronyc2011 all menacing i think and the celestial shell and stuff
@@I-Really-Like-Gaming. k, thanks. I believe I got to 13k recently with some changed modifiers
@@aaronyc2011 good good
everyone gansta until mojang suddenly realeases infinite inventory.
@@egegeyyeyey they can't even get a sachel working properly
@@davidward9550 LOL
@@davidward9550 bundles got added to bedrock beta a week ago
@@davidward9550 lol agreed on that xD but if they really wanted they would...
@@egegeyyeyey it was in the caves and cliffs update log originally, they added it, but them removed it because it wasn't working properly🤷🏽♀️ then if I remember correctly I believe they had a functioning one in the potatoe April fools update but then took it out AGAIN.
Apparently they feel like it's unbalanced but I feel flying is more OP than extra inventory for a game built like Minecraft
Nah, Terrarian'd win in a fist fight, since you concluded him being the same thickness as a piece of paper, his hits will apply bleeding and paper cuts
lol
Underrated
Terrarian canonically has his skin enchanted with Thorns 255
@@CinderedSilverwhat are you yapping about
@@sandtheunderman The thorns enchantment in minecraft... Please at least know one of the most basic things about Minecraft before making fun of people
@@CinderedSilver bro you typed terrarian and Terraria don't have the thorns effect. Re-read what you typed before start an argument
Uhhhhh... The zenith kinda doesn't have immunity frames.....
- In the Education Edition of Minecraft, there's a block called the Material Reducer which can convert Minecraft items into their component elements. It confirms that 1 gold block in Minecraft is 100% pure gold.
- Terrasteel calculated that one Platinum Coin weighs around 1,138.8 kilograms, or the weight of a small car, if we count up all its pixels in its various sprites from the Coin Gun and when it's dropped on the ground (unlike other items, coins rotate around when dropped on the ground, meaning that they are 2.5D instead of 2D like most other Terraria items). He has an entire video dedicated to calculating this. However, he also made another video pointing out that you can use 100 copper coins to craft 1 silver coins, 100 silver coins to craft 1 gold coin, and 100 gold coins to craft 1 platinum coin. Aka, 1 platinum coin is equal to 1 million copper coins. Assuming that each platinum coin actually weighs as much as this many copper coins, 1 platinum coin weighs 348.9 million kilograms. And we can put coins in the 4 coin slots as well, as opposed to the items you used for measuring the Terrarian's lifting capacity. Not only does this allow the Terrarian to lift far more than Steve, it also directly translates to attack potency through the Coin Gun.
- Full Protection 4 Netherite wouldn't even always give 96% damage reduction, because Armor Toughness exists. It's a mechanic in Minecraft that makes armor block less damage the more damage is being dealt.
- Terrarian has the Thorns Potions, which reflects 100% of all melee damage taken by the Terrarian back to the attacker. Given how much more health the Terrarian has over Steve, not to mention Lifeforce Potions which boost the Terrarian's maximum HP to 600, this essentially shuts down all of Steve's melee attacks. Thorns Potions don't work in PvP, but that's only between multiple Terrarians, so I don't see why it wouldn't affect Steve.
- The Terrarian's fire explosions from the Solar Flare armor have a limited AoE, so Steve could just use ranged weapons. Heck, we've already established that ranged weapons are his only hope at taking down the Terrarian due to Thorns Potions.
- For the 2D Terrarian vs 3D Steve debate, Steve could theoretically have infinite prep time to set up redstone contraptions. He could just place down a thousand TNT around the Terrarian and explode them all at once, or something. However, the Terrarian could just fly up past Steve's block placement limit, and then stay there indefinitely using Gravitation Potions or Soaring Insignia + Celestial Starboard, so it's still a draw.
- Also for the 2D Terrarian vs 3D Steve debate, you could say that Terrarian wins because Steve will eventually starve.
- Steve has the Thorns enchantment, which reflects ALL forms of damage taken, not just melee damage like the Terrarian's thorns effects. However, it only deals around an average of 1.5 hearts of damage per hit. That's not a lot, and Terrarian could pretty easily outheal that.
- Steve has Instant Harming Potions and Tipped Arrows of Instant Harming, which ignore defense. However, those potions and their respective Tipped Arrows are affected by gravity. Terrarian could easily dodge them with Celestial Starboard + Soaring Insignia + Rod of Harmony. Even then, percentage based damage reduction like Worm Scarf and Beetle Endurance would still reduce the damage of Instant Harming.
- Terrarian can place blocks that Steve can't destroy such as Lizhard bricks while being able to destroy Steve's blocks from afar with Celebration MK 2 with Mini Nuke IIs. He can also place blocks in midair with Ice Rod, unlike Steve. And he can fast-forward time with the Enchanted Sundial/Moondial to skip past the Rain to negate the positive buffs Steve's Trident gets in the rain.
- As seen with Piercing enchanted Crossbows, piercing attacks can go right through Minecraft shields. And the Terrarian has tons of piercing weapons.
- The world of Terraria is 3D, as seen in the backgrounds that change depending on your biome. In the Forest, you can see mountains and trees in the distance, and in the Crimson, you can see giant eyeballs and skulls jutting out from the landscape. These backgrounds are clearly 3D. However, the Terrarian cannot move into the Z-Axis himself.
- Terrarian could use a Hunter Potion to see Steve if Steve uses an Invisibility Potion.
- Steve has the Wither debuff which could shut down the Terrarian's HP regen, but no reliable method of inflicting it. Since Potions of Decay and their respective Tipped Arrows are affected by gravity. Terrarian could easily dodge them with Celestial Starboard + Soaring Insignia + Rod of Harmony. He could also fly over Steve's Wither Roses and break the blocks Steve needs to place to summon the Wither from afar with the Celebration MK 2 with Mini Nuke IIs.
- Terrarian could pretty easily hit Steve with debuffs such as Betsy's Curse, which reduces defense by 40, Acid Venom, which could deal 30 damage per second to Steve and remove his positive life regen, and Confused, which could reverse Steve's controls. Steve could drink Milk to remove them, but that takes a few precious seconds Terrarian could use to attack, and it would remove his positive buffs as well as his negative ones.
theres a block from april fools 2024 update called the floatato that can place mid air too
And Steve has the Elytra and fireworks.
And Absorption from Golden Apples and Totems
@@Bzk0001 speaking of golden apples, enchanted golden apples theoretically take 8 golden blocks to craft 1
@@FadedNinja9694 👀
Saw the title, came to say "Yes. Absolutely. No question."
As someone who has played the games for practically their whole life I just quickly like to add 1 or 2 notes:
(1 Obviously the Terrarian would win in a war If They both have as much prep time as they need)
(2 The reason the Terrarian and Steve Have such drastically different damage and health numbers Isn't because one of them is stronger than the other... But rather because they're balanced in different ways... Steve uses the lower number Way meaning each hit *technically* hits a lot harder (Meaning the larger number are more impressive) While the Terrarian Goes for the higher number approach (Meaning each hit doesn't look as impressive But the numbers can get a lot larger without it being overwhelming) So if you really wanted to calculate who is stronger You'd need to calculate what their base starting health is compared to each other and look from there (the Terrarian has (100) While Steve has (20) ) )
But like you said they would never fight In fact I imagine it would be great friends and team up if they got the chance
Yes, it doesn't change nothing though, if Steve dealt 5 times more damage the Terrarian would regenerate faster
Steve would honestly be trying so hard trying to keep up with Terrarian just zooming around
It should also be mentioned that Canonically, Terraria exists in a 3D universe. We just perceive it in 2D.
That statement was made by Red.
"I tip my hat to you, one legend to another"
Terraria has fallen stars, and stars are kinda heavy
By density, assuming the fallen star is a yellow dwarf or the same type of star as the sun, they would weigh roughly 300kg, which is pretty heavy, but there's heavier items, contrast to Minecraft's nether star, which most closely resembles a neutron star and you have uh... Alot of density.
nether stars in mc
@@SolTheIdiot your forgetting solar fragments, vortex fragments, nebula fragments, and stardust fragments. Not to mention you can make a block out of them. Also the nether star doesn't look like a neutron star, it probably just got called that because it's kinda shaped like a star.
@@SolTheIdiot I didn’t think abt that actually
Since we are comparing it with real life (coz we took real life weight of gold) in reality fallen stars are actually meteors not stars
I disagree with the calculation of the weight of gold for terraria, because we should assume that each block in terraria is a cube not a thin sheet just like in Minecraft so your .67 meters would be cube which would make them much more even. We should've also assumed they where both in the same dimension and equipped with the best for both damage and defense as well as ALL potions and external effects like beacon buffs and dryads blessing respectively in which case would make the battle over in quite literally less than a second as the Terrarian vs Steve both at maximum power would end with Steve groveling like the dog he is while the Terrarian according to lore can move beyond lightspeed which also has the strength to kill gods, so in short the Terrarian solos Minecraft verse period.
go and see how strong steve is, the dude can lift a multiverse
@@sparta-zh7yk and the terrarian can lift 9999 per inventory slot of literal pieces of the SUN. Which is 100% heavier than a single netherite block, please fact check your source again 😂
@@smartgamingpotatopotatoz4217 you didnt even watch the video about steve
@@sparta-zh7yk what video in relation to Steve?
@@smartgamingpotatopotatoz4217 "how strong is steve"
Bro literally made the most assumptions possible
I think cube gold ore in Terraria would make more sense but that's still only 118,260,175 lbs which is still 25x less than Minecraft
i feel like it should've been noted the terraria cover art depicts the terrarian in a more 3d enviorment than what we see ingame
I wish I could attack the Cthulhu spiders that have blood dripping from their eyes that watch me from the 4th dimension that I can’t see.
you okay man?
I wouldn’t compare who would win between the two, but rather, who could beat both of them if they were on a team