@@cephelos1098the problem is you don't really struggle with exploration *after* you've killed golem. the only thing you'd realistically explore for is truffle worms, since the content that's left if you left the (decently hard) optional bosses for last would be fishron, empress, cultists, pillars, and moonlord himself. none of these really require "exploration" unless you never finished exploring both sides of your map.
One thing a friend of mine uses this for is simply leaving this in his vanity slots and tossing it on whenever he has downtime during an event or something. Gets him back in the fight much faster.
I like to consider it the "I didn't hear no Bell! 🔔 💯" Accessory since it brings you back into the fight more often when you need to recover Whenever the Nurse dies, my homies all have this thing in their vanity for the very situation you described
Shiny Stone is still nice to have in an vanity accessory slot so you can temporarily swap it in in-between fights for a quick burst of health unaffected by Potion Sickness. It doesn't even add any visuals to your character, so it won't ruin your fashion either.
Not necessarily, it wont save you from getting beat around which is the main issue at that point Itd help you with environmental stuff like lava, silt, fall damage, poison darts, etc Along with helping you recover from a fight *after* its already over
It's still not quite as useful as accessories which improve defense. Unless you play on master mode, armor and defense buffs from accessories alone is enough to at least take a few hits from the majority of common damage sources in pre-hardmode, which is enough time to switch to your main set, deal with them using a weapon, or let a passive summon handle it for you without needing to shift your focus from mining.
In the adventure map I'm making, the Shiny Stone is one of the items the player gets in it, and it's obtained very early on. I found that it's a really effective way to make sure the player gets back to full health in between levels.
I like using it because healing back to 500 hp when you respawn takes a long time, so having it in my inventory helps me get back into the fight quicker
I can understand why relogic are kinda vague about some description, simpler is better unlike calamity with sometime half of your screen with text about some items but still like your video.
Well, I never played Calamity or any mods, but I would really, really like to know literally everything about an item, and not just have to watch a UA-cam video on it. Maybe the devs could make it a Guide/Mechanic 'help' attribute. The Mechanic could tell you all of the statistics of an item, or the Cyborg could. You could also/instead use a Bookshelf as a sort of workstation to expand the item info. Or... just add a (Read more info) tab at the bottom of the item description!
@@hatyyy Yeah... but then you have all of the information immediately. It would add incentive to try to get the other NPC(s) or a bookcase for the total data by decentralizing the item database. It's like the Tavernkeep, but the Tavernkeep says nothing that isn't really obvious.
i don't completely agree with the statement that the shiny stone is "useless"; sure, it can't really be used in fights, but it can be used AFTER a fight to get yourself back to full HP quickly and without a potion. i use it all the time for the lunar event; i'll dip into the area, fight a few enemies, and dip back out and equip the shiny stone when i get hurt. it's not the BEST accessory, sure, but it isn't completely worthless
I do like using the shiny stone during the pillars. Go in, deal some damage, leave before you die, and regen with the stone instead of burning health pots
I always thought this thing was stronger than it looked. It's great to have it on you for quick regen while exploring, it's just not as good during boss fights. Unfortunately, you're likely done exploring after Golem, so its usefulness is limited.
It is useful in multiplayer, yuy are low health, you leave your friend alone with the boss (💀), the nurse is dead or too far, and you need to regen, use the shiny stone, and you are back at the fight in mere seconds, also i didn't understood anything in this video, might be the first time i don't understand a terrasteel video :c
Shiny stone ISNT a good accessory to carry around. BUT its an amazing accessory to quickly heal. For example on events you can just swap it from vanity and quickly heal before you next fight. It also helps on boss fights as you can heal to full if you die to the boss instead of wasting gold on nurse But its terrible overall. Solely good for niche scenerios but it makes it worth to bring it as a vanity accessory
Honestly even if you ignore the awful point of progression you obtain it at, it's still just bad game design. Terraria's combat system is entirely movement based, so having something that only activates when you stand still will inevitably be really inconvenient to use. Unless you use one of the very few items that allow parrying, the only way to consistently avoid damage is to dodge, which means that in order to activate the effect you'll have to get hit, so you'll end up taking more damage then you heal anyway. Even if you use it during events, the only way to be safe during events without moving is to get inside an enclosed area, and at that point why not just use the nurse or potions? Both of those would probably heal you faster
Shiny stone defenders when they realise that if they are in a scenario where they aren't getting hit they can just use a chair to regen or healing potions Post golem is a very niche stage and the only real use you can hypothetically get out of this is regenning before the last wave of old one's army if you got hit in wave 6
Personally, the Shiny stone should've just been another Golem Drop rather than an exclusive item dropped by Golem, so we could come up with accessory combinations
I always keep the shiny stone in one of the vanity slots and use it to regen after leaving combat so I can get back to it sooner, finding it most useful for jumping into and out of battle with pillars without waiting forever or splurging on the nurse.
Re-logic could easily make the shiny stone much stronger by making the standing still buffs half as effective when moving insted of completly removing them .
exactly, if it was even HALF as effective you'd want to have it for every fight after Golem just to make sure you could heal while Potion Sickness is active
You probably shouldn't look at this accessory from the perspective of "how good against bosses?" considering there's a lot more to Terraria than boss fights.
@@LazoGTIn Legendary regular mobs often deal over 200 contact damage. It’s super useful to be able to barricade yourself and regen 0-500 in 30 seconds rather than 3 minutes.
@@Brass319Literally none of the non-boss fights matter at all after Golem. The pillars aren't hard and neither is the Martian Invasion. Honestly, I've always hoped that there would be a new post-Moon-Lord buff to the Pumpkin and Frost Moon events...maybe buff all of the regular enemies to a large degree. Even the Old One's Army is piss-easy, and protecting yourself isn't even the main goal of that one. Let's be honest...bossing is almost everything you gear for unless you are at the absolute beginning of a new char in a new world, or have just started hardmode and are racing to get wings.
one thing i found using dragonlens is that when using shiny stone and crimson armor it will regen at the same rate no matter how much health you have, this is unique because other regen buffs with crimson armor still only increase by 1 at a max rate, meanwhile with shiny stone and crimson armor it has no acceleration max and no number max (with 100hp it takes x time with 10000000hp it takes same time about. and another thing i found wiht this is that crimson armor multiplies/buffs shiny stone in some way.
would be interesting if it primarily applied when you aren't moving, but can still be firing and if you get hit it doesn't cancel as long as you didn't move ((knockback)) giving it synergy with shields. (also, some noticeable affects while moving would be useful, though probably less. i'm also looking at the charm of myths and was earlier thinking it could be involved with (an upgrade to?) the ankh shield somehow due to affecting the potion sickness debuff and also being a charm, but it could theoretically be involved with the shiny stone instead)
the shiny stone can be pretty good in mutliplayer boss fights, provided your partner is drawing aggro. Sometimes the little extra regeneration can save your life, especially if you're on potion cooldown ^^
please research one to unlock duplication T^T or i suppose this video was just that o.0 in any case shiny stone good yummy accessory *especially* in co-op
Realistically, its best use is during the lunar events because of its sequential structure. A lot of people have already mentioned as well to put it in vanity for quick swapping, but I advise to place it next to a non-movement accessory so you can still dodge when needed. Just defeated Cultist and you're low on health? Plop that stone in and you'll be back in shape, ready for the pillars. Struggling to kill swarms? you can dip in, kill some until you're low health, then just get out of the pillar's range to heal with your shiny stone, and repeat until pillar is gone. Impending doom approaches but you're still sore and not ready? Moon Lord comes slow enough to give you time to get to your arena and rest with your shiny stone.
Shiny Stone isn’t for bosses, it’s for camping invasion events. You wield the treasure magnet while standing in the safe zone of your farming traps, and just gather loot while having massive regen to counter any stray shots that hit you.
I typically keep a shiny stone in my inventory during the pillars, a very effective strategy is to go into the pillar zone, spawn a few enemies, then when you're low-ish health retreat to outside the spawning range and regen back to full with the shiny stone. Really useful if you don't have really good gear, like in a challenge run or something.
oh hey, turns out it might actually be useful if you could combine it with something, honestly surprising really though, good video, thanks for explaining this thing (it's in game description is a good bit vague) OOf
Give you 5 gold or more everytime you beat golem, that's what it does
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Try building a loadout that maximizes regen; obv not a main loadout or helpful for bosses, but it's nice for exploring around
@@cephelos1098the problem is you don't really struggle with exploration *after* you've killed golem. the only thing you'd realistically explore for is truffle worms, since the content that's left if you left the (decently hard) optional bosses for last would be fishron, empress, cultists, pillars, and moonlord himself. none of these really require "exploration" unless you never finished exploring both sides of your map.
@@cephelos1098🗣️🗣️💩
yea
One thing a friend of mine uses this for is simply leaving this in his vanity slots and tossing it on whenever he has downtime during an event or something. Gets him back in the fight much faster.
I like to consider it the "I didn't hear no Bell! 🔔 💯" Accessory since it brings you back into the fight more often when you need to recover
Whenever the Nurse dies, my homies all have this thing in their vanity for the very situation you described
i do the same. it's a faster way to get full health without having to break your pockets for the nurse
@@pineapple2.041 Besides, anyone who uses the nurse as a crutch to brute force events and bosses is lame.
@@_shadow_1 real
Yeah I pretty much use it as a pocket heal
Shiny Stone is still nice to have in an vanity accessory slot so you can temporarily swap it in in-between fights for a quick burst of health unaffected by Potion Sickness. It doesn't even add any visuals to your character, so it won't ruin your fashion either.
I didn't even know that Feral Bite reduced life regeneration. I'm so far behind
True
Me neither
We always learn something new each day I guess
Man I forgot feral bite even existed…
@@Ordinaryhumanbeing-cg5vx found the melee player (i also build ankh shield on mages tho)
this would be a crazy accessory for exploration and mining in early-mid hardmode
its sad they only give it to you in late hardmode
it'd be way too busted
Not necessarily, it wont save you from getting beat around which is the main issue at that point
Itd help you with environmental stuff like lava, silt, fall damage, poison darts, etc
Along with helping you recover from a fight *after* its already over
It's still not quite as useful as accessories which improve defense. Unless you play on master mode, armor and defense buffs from accessories alone is enough to at least take a few hits from the majority of common damage sources in pre-hardmode, which is enough time to switch to your main set, deal with them using a weapon, or let a passive summon handle it for you without needing to shift your focus from mining.
you'd have to be able to get it as you're exploring the world for it to be a game changer
In the adventure map I'm making, the Shiny Stone is one of the items the player gets in it, and it's obtained very early on.
I found that it's a really effective way to make sure the player gets back to full health in between levels.
To evolve several pokemon such as togetic evolving to togekiss. It's quite simple actually
I like using it because healing back to 500 hp when you respawn takes a long time, so having it in my inventory helps me get back into the fight quicker
This thing's lore is so much more complicated than its gameplay. I think this video melted my tiny little brain a bit.
Sorry but what its lore comrade ? Cant find it in the wiki
@@xdskiller3509 ..I meant "lore" as in a detailed summary of what it does.
@@purplehaze2358oh thanks comrade
@@purplehaze2358 oh thanks
@@purplehaze2358That would be the item's statistics.
It helps me regen hp faster without using health potions between chain golem farms 😅
I can understand why relogic are kinda vague about some description, simpler is better unlike calamity with sometime half of your screen with text about some items but still like your video.
Well, I never played Calamity or any mods, but I would really, really like to know literally everything about an item, and not just have to watch a UA-cam video on it.
Maybe the devs could make it a Guide/Mechanic 'help' attribute.
The Mechanic could tell you all of the statistics of an item, or the Cyborg could.
You could also/instead use a Bookshelf as a sort of workstation to expand the item info.
Or... just add a (Read more info) tab at the bottom of the item description!
@@Human..Being... Cool idea
@@cosminonisoru1145 It would be so much better, too.
@@Human..Being... or the guide could
@@hatyyy Yeah... but then you have all of the information immediately. It would add incentive to try to get the other NPC(s) or a bookcase for the total data by decentralizing the item database.
It's like the Tavernkeep, but the Tavernkeep says nothing that isn't really obvious.
i don't completely agree with the statement that the shiny stone is "useless"; sure, it can't really be used in fights, but it can be used AFTER a fight to get yourself back to full HP quickly and without a potion. i use it all the time for the lunar event; i'll dip into the area, fight a few enemies, and dip back out and equip the shiny stone when i get hurt. it's not the BEST accessory, sure, but it isn't completely worthless
it's insanely useful he's yapping hardcore
And THIS is why I love Terrasteel. Always showing us the in's and out's of obscure things that nobody ever even thought of 😂
average vtube watcher
I love having the stone in a vanity slot for general use, usually use it for wave events or the Pillars.
man and here i was just thinking it just gave you really fast regen
Damn who would have thought such a simple accessory was so complicated
the only time I use this item, is when I’m fighting Golem 50 times right away, and using it between each fight
I do like using the shiny stone during the pillars. Go in, deal some damage, leave before you die, and regen with the stone instead of burning health pots
It is useful if you play with a group of friends, and need 10 seconds to reset. Just equip it for 10 seconds and you are max health
I always thought this thing was stronger than it looked. It's great to have it on you for quick regen while exploring, it's just not as good during boss fights.
Unfortunately, you're likely done exploring after Golem, so its usefulness is limited.
I think shiny stone is an excellent accessory for exploring, caving, just casual gameplay maybe building even
Very interesting video, didn't knew about a lot of this
Terraria players when you tell them there's more to the game than boss fights:
Wtf is left other than bossfights after beating golem? You just explored the last structure
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Building?
@@LemonbreadSCWhy would you need extra life regeneration while building?
@@lunashenck There's so many darn bats underground. You have to, like, switch tools to attack them unless you're a gross summoner main.
@@LemonbreadSCIf you're post golem you shouldn't be struggling so hard against bats that you have to heal
Good job Terra, couldn't find any spelling mistakes 👍
You didn’t look hard enough :)
@@Terraw Damn you got me, it was a trap for me to watch the video again.
good luck ever finding a player not using the ankh shield after beating golem
shiny stone seems like a W for bossfights
It is useful in multiplayer, yuy are low health, you leave your friend alone with the boss (💀), the nurse is dead or too far, and you need to regen, use the shiny stone, and you are back at the fight in mere seconds, also i didn't understood anything in this video, might be the first time i don't understand a terrasteel video :c
It used to be so good and underrated
What texture pack do you use for your UI?
it boosts shiny moon lord spawn rates
It opens the door to Culex, duh
Shiny Stone is great for multiplayer: you get weak and pull back for a few seconds to heal, then get back in
Why haven't I seen that before in the game? Is it a molded item? Cuz I play vanilla
No. It's a drop from Golem. Not guaranteed either.
It's not useable for solo bosses but if you're doing anything else or if the boss is focused on sommeone else It's useful
It shines. All pretty like.
Duh
Shiny stone ISNT a good accessory to carry around. BUT its an amazing accessory to quickly heal. For example on events you can just swap it from vanity and quickly heal before you next fight. It also helps on boss fights as you can heal to full if you die to the boss instead of wasting gold on nurse
But its terrible overall. Solely good for niche scenerios but it makes it worth to bring it as a vanity accessory
I love how after all that, it's still virtually useless.
I am a shiny stone enjoyer.
Honestly even if you ignore the awful point of progression you obtain it at, it's still just bad game design. Terraria's combat system is entirely movement based, so having something that only activates when you stand still will inevitably be really inconvenient to use. Unless you use one of the very few items that allow parrying, the only way to consistently avoid damage is to dodge, which means that in order to activate the effect you'll have to get hit, so you'll end up taking more damage then you heal anyway. Even if you use it during events, the only way to be safe during events without moving is to get inside an enclosed area, and at that point why not just use the nurse or potions? Both of those would probably heal you faster
bro think he Tera Steel
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Shiny stone defenders when they realise that if they are in a scenario where they aren't getting hit they can just use a chair to regen or healing potions
Post golem is a very niche stage and the only real use you can hypothetically get out of this is regenning before the last wave of old one's army if you got hit in wave 6
Its still useless
what on earth do djs actually do do do do do do
First. I REALLY like your content by the way
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Hello
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Personally, the Shiny stone should've just been another Golem Drop rather than an exclusive item dropped by Golem, so we could come up with accessory combinations
I always keep the shiny stone in one of the vanity slots and use it to regen after leaving combat so I can get back to it sooner, finding it most useful for jumping into and out of battle with pillars without waiting forever or splurging on the nurse.
Re-logic could easily make the shiny stone much stronger by making the standing still buffs half as effective when moving insted of completly removing them .
exactly, if it was even HALF as effective you'd want to have it for every fight after Golem just to make sure you could heal while Potion Sickness is active
You probably shouldn't look at this accessory from the perspective of "how good against bosses?" considering there's a lot more to Terraria than boss fights.
I agree, it can be useful when fighting normal enemies
Terraria is about Killing bosses. So looking at boss fights first shouldnt be a mistake.
@@Meowlegend7 It really isn't lmao
@@purplehaze2358 It is. Game forces you to Kill bosses to progress. Even looking at to the game's lore, we try to kill bosses.
@@Meowlegend7 Yes, killing bosses is how you progress.
But bosses still only make up a small slice of Terraria's content overall.
4:03 What? Shiny stone is good in my opinion. Having it in social slot can help with regen in many scenarios where you fight regular enemies.
terraria players when you mention that there's more to the game than boss fights:
post-golem? what are you struggling with? pillar mobs don't really let you stand in place to heal either.
@@LazoGTIn Legendary regular mobs often deal over 200 contact damage. It’s super useful to be able to barricade yourself and regen 0-500 in 30 seconds rather than 3 minutes.
@@Brass319Literally none of the non-boss fights matter at all after Golem. The pillars aren't hard and neither is the Martian Invasion. Honestly, I've always hoped that there would be a new post-Moon-Lord buff to the Pumpkin and Frost Moon events...maybe buff all of the regular enemies to a large degree. Even the Old One's Army is piss-easy, and protecting yourself isn't even the main goal of that one. Let's be honest...bossing is almost everything you gear for unless you are at the absolute beginning of a new char in a new world, or have just started hardmode and are racing to get wings.
You do know pillars have limited spawning range right? if you are low just get out of there ,equip it , heal and get back to fighting much quicker
one thing i found using dragonlens is that when using shiny stone and crimson armor it will regen at the same rate no matter how much health you have, this is unique because other regen buffs with crimson armor still only increase by 1 at a max rate, meanwhile with shiny stone and crimson armor it has no acceleration max and no number max (with 100hp it takes x time with 10000000hp it takes same time about. and another thing i found wiht this is that crimson armor multiplies/buffs shiny stone in some way.
it makes me sparkle :)
would be interesting if it primarily applied when you aren't moving, but can still be firing and if you get hit it doesn't cancel as long as you didn't move ((knockback)) giving it synergy with shields.
(also, some noticeable affects while moving would be useful, though probably less. i'm also looking at the charm of myths and was earlier thinking it could be involved with (an upgrade to?) the ankh shield somehow due to affecting the potion sickness debuff and also being a charm, but it could theoretically be involved with the shiny stone instead)
its amazing in multiplayer if you can get your friend to take the boss away from you for a few seconds
Try it with a honeycomb, curious how effective that combo is in fights
the shiny stone can be pretty good in mutliplayer boss fights, provided your partner is drawing aggro. Sometimes the little extra regeneration can save your life, especially if you're on potion cooldown ^^
This accessory reminds me of the bustling fungus from the risk of rain series
OMG he said turbocharge! is that a bloons reference!?
Indeed
It is honestly pretty nice during events or multiplayer runs, where you’ll have some moments of reprieve from fights
please research one to unlock duplication T^T or i suppose this video was just that o.0
in any case shiny stone good yummy accessory *especially* in co-op
Realistically, its best use is during the lunar events because of its sequential structure. A lot of people have already mentioned as well to put it in vanity for quick swapping, but I advise to place it next to a non-movement accessory so you can still dodge when needed. Just defeated Cultist and you're low on health? Plop that stone in and you'll be back in shape, ready for the pillars. Struggling to kill swarms? you can dip in, kill some until you're low health, then just get out of the pillar's range to heal with your shiny stone, and repeat until pillar is gone. Impending doom approaches but you're still sore and not ready? Moon Lord comes slow enough to give you time to get to your arena and rest with your shiny stone.
Shiny Stone isn’t for bosses, it’s for camping invasion events.
You wield the treasure magnet while standing in the safe zone of your farming traps, and just gather loot while having massive regen to counter any stray shots that hit you.
I play only modded terraria (mainly calamity mode) and it is really good to save money (nurse is a scam in late game). Nurse gets to expensive
I use this in-between golem fights to bring myself up to full without wasting potions or getting potion sickness for the next fight
NO! That is NOT Solid Snake!
shiny stone is still nice qof
Time to make a regen build
I typically keep a shiny stone in my inventory during the pillars, a very effective strategy is to go into the pillar zone, spawn a few enemies, then when you're low-ish health retreat to outside the spawning range and regen back to full with the shiny stone. Really useful if you don't have really good gear, like in a challenge run or something.
Great video!
oh hey, turns out it might actually be useful if you could combine it with something, honestly surprising
really though, good video, thanks for explaining this thing (it's in game description is a good bit vague) OOf
well i think it greatly increases your life regeneration when not moving
It might increase your life regeneration when you're not moving but I'm not sure I don't use this item much