People pleasing tendencies made me a magician during my younger years, now tapping into my masculine energy, I feel like I'm changing into more leadership or seeking more responsibility at time. I'm not on all the time though, and that frustrates me.
Nice work! I picked up the book for my teenage son when he turned 20, and I’ve also gotten the updated version for myself. Again, insightful and informative.
Good mature men are a rare commodity. Gamma bias, the combination of alpha and beta biases, does seem a common societal phenomenon. Glorification of female achievement and ignoring female bad behaviour. The reverse exists of not celebrating male acts of heroism but headlining any adverse male behavior. We are now a highly demoralized group, with poor outcomes now evident right across the social stage. We fail, we suicide, we lose access to our children with legal support, we die much earlier than woman. If the boot was on the other foot, this would be the basis of an aggressive social movement with media headlines, political and legal support. BUT we shoulder our responsibility without network support. Stand up for the men in your social group, support them, lift them up. They have somewhere tremendous energy and resilience as their biological superpowers. They achieve great things when given the freedom to achieve their full potential if they are encouraged to enter adulthood with discipline and self control. Connect, find joy in little things, commune with nature, find your purpose. The last is the hardest of all. Act with honesty and conviction. Being true to yourself sometimes needs another good man to help you along
Fantastically put. My hope is that more men are compassionate with each other, and if I can do one thing to help other men it’s to really do what I can to care about their feelings. Be the change you want to see and all
This is the best explanation of the 4 masculine archetypes I've ever watched - and I've watched plenty of them! This is great work Erin, I've been following your channel for a while now and I really love your to-the-point and literature-based approach to these topics, particularly considering how polluted this "genre" is with new-age stuff. I hope you grow to have a larger audience that appreciates what you're doing and learns from it.
I clean all the damn time. I like moving around and I like fixing stuff around the house and my car and doing other yard work. I didn't realize doing these chores was a manly thing but I guess I can be humbled by your discovery.
Excellent. Great lucid visual aids. Nice to see someone who cares enough about a topic, put in time off-camera all to ensure the intended message is well received.
oh lovely. Someone to give actual academic, objective advice on how to be a mature, adult male instead of yelling at me with vague catch phrases. Edit: yea,... didn'thave to look too far to see i'm more of a warrior type (my intuition is annoyingly accurate, tho). I prefer Boolean type logic and first principles. Honesty is far harder than lying because lies are easier to digest and believe. Honesty usually has an upfront cost while lying has an upfront reward. I find great joy in over training or high intensity weightlifting - really puts the hair on ur chest. Great video.
i find telling the truth is easier because i dont have to keep track of the lies and it frees up space for me to think about other things. guess im more of a wizard then.
I actually listen, and am in revision stage of my life and being. Just finished reading Epictetus (oddly enough, I had never read, and initially found it nihilistic, but was very, very wrong by the end). I am in the warrior archetype. And I embrace pain, because it is an external, something not of my control. Im a disabled veteran, but this is not about me. I enjoy your videos. I wont call them content (I do not like that term as it is). I am a myso(wont type the rest). I respect based on actions and deeds. So I wanted to say, I respect the work you do, and more so, the fact you have chosen a dificult path. It would be much easier to draw in views, in a well known and documented manner. Im sure there may still be those here for prurient interests, but, you are doing two things. You stir introspection, and these discussions, even if one sided, can be beneficial, especially for young men. But also, you are a good role model for young women. If society, culture, our civilization is to survive, we have to reevaluate the self, and it starts with each of us, knowing our roles, our general broadstrokes characteristics (archetypes) and move that upward, to a society. So keep doing what youre doing. It is appreciated. A.
As a Visual Artist I realise that I fit perfectly within the Magician archetype. I avoid perfectionism, often have more ideas than I can execute, care more about the journey rather than the destination, avoid concerning myself with peoples opinions. The negatives are also true, and this is remarkably accurate.
growing up without my father figure and my mom having to assume that role, I had a very rough and confusing upbringing questioning my masculinity. I went through a lot of paradigm shifts, thank you for making this video to guide young men like myself who have never had the chance to be taught.
I am not gonna lie, I was actually thinking about this video today because of the previous one. So glad is here, so time to watch now, and I am sure it will be great like the ones before.
My dad is the king archetype I used to be a magician before my first girl friend but after seeing what my dad went through with divorce I ended up changing my mentality I knew that depending on people will bring more stress I turned into a warrior I like to think that when you’re on your own you are closer to god.
Again, this is utterly fascinating. I've been taking extensive notes and I bought the book. MTBI says I'm an INxP and I identify most closely with the Lover archetype, most recently with the negative aspects of procrastination and laziness. I'm retired now and I've really taken it to heart. I very much see the Seeker in you and I really appreciate all the research you have done. Keep up the very good work!
@@lorensims4846 I am also an INFP and yes, I'm also known to procrastinate lol. The key is to use your Te Inferior to aspire towards your ESTJ subconscious, which switches you into go-getter mode. Be a task master, executing actions.
This is a great explanation of these archetypes and how they interact and integrate, well done! I will also check out the citations in the description. Well done!🙂
This was outstanding! I am a student of Jung and MBTI. I would love to see this chart overlayed with any other personality systems, religions, social structures that you are studying. Really fascinating insights you brought out here for me personally and I really appreciate your attention to detail and accuracy.
Thank you for breaking this down so simply - your little white boards really worked! Now I'm looking for your reference book by Moore &Gillette for a deeper dive.
Thanks, Erin. I really appreciate your gentle, but no-nonsense approach to these topics. You're clearly well-educated, well-versed in (among other things) Jungian ideas and psychology, and have given a great deal of thought and effort to the things you're discussing. Your approach is helping me on my journey to becoming a better man. May all the good things happen to you!
As a lover that second chart stung. I know it bares out. I live a very unorganized life. Honestly that's all I've been trying to do lately is organize and structure my life.
Erin, thank you for explaining Mature Masculine Archetype. It is helping me to understand myself and how I can change & improve to be a mature man. I have a suggestion about the use of white board. If I do it, I will put it in MS PPT and transition each point which will allow others to listen and anticipate the next point. I felt it was crowded and had to read through all the points before you finish explaining the presentation of that white board. I might be wrong on this but thought of sharing with you. Thank you once again for explaining these concepts in an understandable and relatable way.
@@kelvinjohn2000 Thanks for the comment. Are you saying it would be better if I did like a google slides with me in the corner? I appreciate any and all feedback. Thank you
@@erinbyrd5377 Yes Erin. Wherever there is text or white board you can use Google slides with you embossed in the background and when you are talking, be back to the current mode (full screen). This will look great.
I think I've been working towards mastering each side of myself with out any name to give them a name. I most see my strengths in the lover and warriors archetypes. Maybe having this name can give me something to focus on these points of growth. Thank you
I would say that I have traits from all the archetypes and found it difficult to decide which solutions to prioritize. My strongest archetype is the warrior and weakest is lover but I feel magician and king to be a close second and third. I have been empowering positive traits and dis empowering toxic elements of my shadow self without any overarching theme(s) so I find videos like this super interesting. We need more information on this topic, especially when young men have very few masculine role models to lead us.
The center of this chart 5:08 is where I worked to get to for years. Self-Actualization is what I've always called it, so when i looked up "individuation" its basically the same. The problem with being in the center is others not knowing its possible. They look real surprised when They think you fit into one Archetype area but you can move to others at any moment. My own personal study finds that most feel uncomfortable around me when they notice that because you become too unpredictable. I have to "Play the fool" in order to create a false since of weakness in order to make others feel like they got me figured out.
@@thethrilla80 Yah, i control the "role" i assume by regulating what others "expect" of me at any moment. So managing Expectations becomes a key skill to stay in the center and not become what others want you to be.
@@erinbyrd5377 True, over the years I've learned how to mirror their way to thinking without losing myself. This ability made me a perfect representor or mediator between different factions. Everyone want's to survive and thrive, but different locations have different resources and options, thus resulting in different ways of thinking. The biggest problem is when others think that every other way of thinking is inferior to theirs. But the best way to survive overall is to be as flexible/adaptable as possible. Still, its all a product of what your objectives and life goals are.
Funny thing about this all being theory: It's helped me embrace life and want to be a better man to myself and others. Those people saying that can eat their empirical papers for all I care.
All of us know we can feel vibes. That we receive information like warnings from our subconscious. That we all have a hunch about something. Yet all these readings are also considered theory even though every human can tap into it.
Fantastic video/channel. Keep up the great work. You are very easy to listen to, very pleasant and feminine voice full of radiating intelligence. Long time ago i found out i have to learn more from lover archetype to be able to fully enjoy life, your points gave me quite a confirmation and ideas how to actually do that. Thank you!
I feel like I’m pretty balanced across the four archetypes but I also definitely notice myself struggling with all of the negatives from each and I’m not sure what to do about that
@@NolanKruse9 In my previous video on the masculine archetypes, I go into more detail about the shadow poles. Which one seems to be the most resonating with you?
Thanks for the work you do Erin its inspiring and you explain things in a digestible way. its difficult to find this information in a non aggressive way towards men.
Hello, Erin. Could you consider making videos on the concept of individuation by Carl Jung and the hero's journey by Joseph Campbell, also covered by Christopher Vogler? I loved the videos on male archetypes, I've already watched them twice. Thank you! Keep up the good work.
I'm kinda young (18yo) but I was forced to mature early in life because of my father (who has not been present since I was 7, he didn't die, he just got the hell out of the country and doesn't want anything to do whith us) and the 3 men my mom brought to our lives when I was respectively 7, 10 and 16. Every one of them has taught me really important things, being the first 2 guys more into the magician/lover zones and the 3 one (who is one of the persons I trust the most in the world) being actually between the king/warrior zones, but also leaning a lot towards the magician. He came to our lives in a moment where I needed the warrior the most (not because of anxiety or anything else, but because of discipline) and he has been also a very good demonstration of the king archetype for me. I've been following my evolution very close since 11 because at that age I had my biggest mystical conflict since I decided to become an atheist after being Catholic from birth (I'm not atheist anymore, thanks Christ). Getting to the point: my main archetypes are the magician and the lover, but I also lean towards the king, I'm a musician, so art and all the emotional areas have been important to me and many other things that fit in the lover; I love to learn all I can, from history, politics, philosophy, geography and economy to biology, chemistry and physics, but I always try to make creative solutions to my problems and many more things that fit in the magician; now, I had to develop leadership when I was around 13 (it was a mess back then, but now I understood the assignment 😂), I know when to say "no" when it's needed, I always try to care for the persons around me (family and friends) and when emotions or creativity don't really work I tend to be moral and logical driven. I tend to guide myself currently with my moral compass a lot, I despise betrayal with my life (probably because of my father and some situations I has with "friends" a few years ago) and value a lot the righteousness of how something was done, my morals currently are heavily influenced by traditional Christianity but also by philosophy and logic, maybe those things fit more jn the king. I want to finish with my warrior archetype which has not been since the beginning of this journey my strongest one until now that I've veen trying to develop it: developing discipline has been hard and I still on my way to do it in a larger scale, carving wood has helped me a little with it and walking really long distances instead of just taking the bus has helped too, and when it comes to sports I love climbing. The warrior has been my weak point since I was very emotional when I was younger, but currently I have developed a pragmatism that has helped me endure some of hardest situations in my life without falling apart at the ages of 16 and 17 (long story). I want yo apologize for the length of this text but also thank you a lot because I could now find appropriate terms for all this and a better view on the things I have to focus for better developing all my archetypes. Thanks!
Looking at these charts, I honestly don't know which one I fall into more. I express about the same number of traits from each one. I seems the best way to proceed would just be to look at where I'm lacking and work on those aspects to bring more of each archetype into a fuller expression when I'm coming from those places.
I love how all of us understand human psychology while we use it on a daily basis yet when we talk about it people say well there is no evidence of that. Amazing. Erin can you please tell us if you are married?
I believe there is an oversight to this diagram, due to it's planar limitations. (also it has linear interpolation). Person could play out literally all of this roles at different stages, periods and contexts, not to mention there is dark side to this characters as well. After all these years of trying to understand people I have realized that it is futile - our search for truth could very well be just another story told by the mind, and in that regard that we are only good as the stories other minds create about us. That is why the compassionate and emotional men are often not selected to become fathers - at best they become surrogate parent to their significant other.
@@vukbabovic5031 The truth is that everyone has basically four personalities in their mind and we switch off based on the situation at hand. However, you have to reach a level of maturity before you can access one of the other sides of your mind. Children, for instance pretty much always stay in their ego because they're less developed.
thank you so much , i've been looking forward for this video since i watched the last one. Very informative , you put much work to make this video , with the charts and all. I'd love to see more videos on how to prevent yourself from reaching shadow poles like sadist and tyrant.
We can't "prove" consciousness but we all know stories exist and that archetypes in stories came from the real experiences underlying those stories. In that way it's a better way of understanding.
I appreciate the model implying; assertiveness, aggression, lover and suprise. With the woman at the center this is a great diagram to explain to a difficult woman. This is not berating. Merely an appreciation of the affirmation of male characterists--however indirect. I will use this to build a more Christian understanding neglected by modernists in the church.
@erinbyrd5377 You clearly put a lot of work into these presentations. You deserve some thanks! I do not think that the diagram helps recogize scale or balance of each concept. I would suggest any people curious of Christianity to use the bible as a guide. One might feel suprised. 🤷♂️
I love how you made this chart seem like it's a pokemon state chart where you can maximize the amount of stuff in your pokemons personality to get the most out of their ability and type. I also laughed when I heard Animus is where you got this chart from, I hate myself for knowing who that is.
@@erinbyrd5377 a vague youtuber making charts with a not necessarily very fleshed out method of self improvement?! Perish the thought! Alright sarcasm and jokes aside, yes it's very vague, there's no proper one way methodology for these archetypes much less the method by which to improve one's self so its very vague and very up in the air, in my experience I learned that advise applies to the person giving advice and not the one receiving it, different strokes for different people and all that
Very Interesting if, we can manage to find a balance between the 4 without being codependent in triangulations with narcissist dynamics ir order to not be overwelmed. I think the key is to manage the 4 at different stages and times to avoid impulsivity and anxiety as an excuse to stay in a comfort zone of toxic money stability avoiding to truly know ourselves in the process. Best Regards!
Apparently I have a healthy balance of all 4 however I feel like I might be suffering the negative effects of rapidly developing the Warrior and Magician aspects in my mid 20s. Definitely feel like a robot and disassociating from groups.
I feel like all of those things and none of those things. Especially when it comes to the negative aspects. Not so much a pushover over or easily influenced anymore. I am a micromanager though. I use to not be able to say no, doesn't bother me now. Procastinating and being lazy is huge issue for me now though. I have all the negative traits of the warrior and magician. I abandoned everyone i care about. I didn't intend to. I isolated myself from the world in order to motivate myself to do something I really dont want to do but is very important for me to do. I didnt think I'd still be here years later still trying to convince myself to do it. I wish I'd just get it over with already.
This video was phenomenal. I have been working towards my own versions of these archetypes for the past few months: the scholar, the warrior, and the monk. I feel like how I define scholar is how you define magician. The monk is more or less equivalent to the lover archetype. The Warrior(my interpretation) would be your equivalent of the warrior plus the king.
Awesome video, exactly what I’ve been looking for. Really professional and well done! Would you be able to hold each white board fully on screen even just for a second so I can pause to help me get a full picture and take notes?
I’m kinda surprised that you didn’t use a tripod or something so that you didn’t have to hold that up. But whatever works for you. Keep up the great work. Can’t wait for the next video.
Intelligence definitely makes a woman more beautiful
Hard agree
You're a sapiosexual! 😂
I think it depends on the man, but for me is a big YES.
Horny ass
No
I feel like giving you a big hug. You have put in such conscientious and loving effort into this project.
Hey guys. Keep moving forward. It's all natural there's no rise without a fall. Life is changing you.
I've lived the fall for years, well all my life really and now I'm kinda lost on the rise part. 🤔 I liked this video.
lol. if only you knew how bad things are for society and how non-analogical this comment is. atlantis is burning.
People pleasing tendencies made me a magician during my younger years, now tapping into my masculine energy, I feel like I'm changing into more leadership or seeking more responsibility at time. I'm not on all the time though, and that frustrates me.
@@Photik At least you're trying
Thank you for explaining all of this. I appreciate the whiteboards on your shoulder.
God bless you miss.
Nice work! I picked up the book for my teenage son when he turned 20, and I’ve also gotten the updated version for myself. Again, insightful and informative.
why am i addicted to those videos? you are so cool
Good mature men are a rare commodity. Gamma bias, the combination of alpha and beta biases, does seem a common societal phenomenon. Glorification of female achievement and ignoring female bad behaviour. The reverse exists of not celebrating male acts of heroism but headlining any adverse male behavior. We are now a highly demoralized group, with poor outcomes now evident right across the social stage. We fail, we suicide, we lose access to our children with legal support, we die much earlier than woman. If the boot was on the other foot, this would be the basis of an aggressive social movement with media headlines, political and legal support. BUT we shoulder our responsibility without network support.
Stand up for the men in your social group, support them, lift them up. They have somewhere tremendous energy and resilience as their biological superpowers. They achieve great things when given the freedom to achieve their full potential if they are encouraged to enter adulthood with discipline and self control. Connect, find joy in little things, commune with nature, find your purpose. The last is the hardest of all. Act with honesty and conviction. Being true to yourself sometimes needs another good man to help you along
Fantastically put. My hope is that more men are compassionate with each other, and if I can do one thing to help other men it’s to really do what I can to care about their feelings. Be the change you want to see and all
This is the best explanation of the 4 masculine archetypes I've ever watched - and I've watched plenty of them!
This is great work Erin, I've been following your channel for a while now and I really love your to-the-point and literature-based approach to these topics, particularly considering how polluted this "genre" is with new-age stuff. I hope you grow to have a larger audience that appreciates what you're doing and learns from it.
@@infinityminuszero This comment made me feel absolutely inspired 😊 Thank you so much 🙏
what literature was referenced in this video
@@slide387 I am referencing the book "King Warrior Magician Lover...", published in 1990 by Robert Moore and Douglas Gillette.
I clean all the damn time. I like moving around and I like fixing stuff around the house and my car and doing other yard work. I didn't realize doing these chores was a manly thing but I guess I can be humbled by your discovery.
She’s back. I bought this book because of your video.
Excellent. Great lucid visual aids. Nice to see someone who cares enough about a topic, put in time off-camera all to ensure the intended message is well received.
oh lovely. Someone to give actual academic, objective advice on how to be a mature, adult male instead of yelling at me with vague catch phrases.
Edit: yea,... didn'thave to look too far to see i'm more of a warrior type (my intuition is annoyingly accurate, tho). I prefer Boolean type logic and first principles. Honesty is far harder than lying because lies are easier to digest and believe. Honesty usually has an upfront cost while lying has an upfront reward. I find great joy in over training or high intensity weightlifting - really puts the hair on ur chest.
Great video.
Absolutely this.
So much on that first line, most of the things I've heard about being a mature man are so vague they don't really mean much at all.
@@iromez1812 Where men lead, women follow.
I'm a damn man
i find telling the truth is easier because i dont have to keep track of the lies and it frees up space for me to think about other things. guess im more of a wizard then.
Thank you for this, and please continue your work here. It is appreciated greatly!
Thank you for this. I can relate to these archetypes. It is illuminating to see how the four types might interact. Food for thought and action!
I actually listen, and am in revision stage of my life and being. Just finished reading Epictetus (oddly enough, I had never read, and initially found it nihilistic, but was very, very wrong by the end).
I am in the warrior archetype. And I embrace pain, because it is an external, something not of my control. Im a disabled veteran, but this is not about me. I enjoy your videos. I wont call them content (I do not like that term as it is). I am a myso(wont type the rest). I respect based on actions and deeds. So I wanted to say, I respect the work you do, and more so, the fact you have chosen a dificult path.
It would be much easier to draw in views, in a well known and documented manner. Im sure there may still be those here for prurient interests, but, you are doing two things. You stir introspection, and these discussions, even if one sided, can be beneficial, especially for young men.
But also, you are a good role model for young women. If society, culture, our civilization is to survive, we have to reevaluate the self, and it starts with each of us, knowing our roles, our general broadstrokes characteristics (archetypes) and move that upward, to a society.
So keep doing what youre doing. It is appreciated.
A.
As a Visual Artist I realise that I fit perfectly within the Magician archetype. I avoid perfectionism, often have more ideas than I can execute, care more about the journey rather than the destination, avoid concerning myself with peoples opinions. The negatives are also true, and this is remarkably accurate.
As always well done. I appreciate your time and effort to provide something worth mentally engaging with and not merely spectating.
growing up without my father figure and my mom having to assume that role, I had a very rough and confusing upbringing questioning my masculinity. I went through a lot of paradigm shifts, thank you for making this video to guide young men like myself who have never had the chance to be taught.
@@Gavenchyy Same here. I wish you the best.
I am not gonna lie, I was actually thinking about this video today because of the previous one. So glad is here, so time to watch now, and I am sure it will be great like the ones before.
@@B0StheB0S 😊
I’ve been waiting for this for forever
My dad is the king archetype I used to be a magician before my first girl friend but after seeing what my dad went through with divorce I ended up changing my mentality I knew that depending on people will bring more stress I turned into a warrior I like to think that when you’re on your own you are closer to god.
Informative, helpful, and attractive.
Thank you for your work/content. 🙏
Again, this is utterly fascinating. I've been taking extensive notes and I bought the book.
MTBI says I'm an INxP and I identify most closely with the Lover archetype, most recently with the negative aspects of procrastination and laziness. I'm retired now and I've really taken it to heart.
I very much see the Seeker in you and I really appreciate all the research you have done.
Keep up the very good work!
@@lorensims4846 I am also an INFP and yes, I'm also known to procrastinate lol. The key is to use your Te Inferior to aspire towards your ESTJ subconscious, which switches you into go-getter mode. Be a task master, executing actions.
Hey are you refering to the book written by Linda Berens? I'm also very interested in the subject so I was wondering which book you picked up
@ Understanding Self and Others
This is a great explanation of these archetypes and how they interact and integrate, well done! I will also check out the citations in the description. Well done!🙂
Yo Erin, just wanted to thank you for this video. These charts and practical solutions really help. Definitely use them more in future vids.
This was outstanding! I am a student of Jung and MBTI. I would love to see this chart overlayed with any other personality systems, religions, social structures that you are studying. Really fascinating insights you brought out here for me personally and I really appreciate your attention to detail and accuracy.
This is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels. It's both educational and practical. Thank you for another great watch!
Thank you for breaking this down so simply - your little white boards really worked! Now I'm looking for your reference book by Moore &Gillette for a deeper dive.
Thanks, Erin. I really appreciate your gentle, but no-nonsense approach to these topics. You're clearly well-educated, well-versed in (among other things) Jungian ideas and psychology, and have given a great deal of thought and effort to the things you're discussing. Your approach is helping me on my journey to becoming a better man. May all the good things happen to you!
Ohhh Niceee Mrs. Erin just uploaded.
I always seem to find your videos very insightful and refreshing. Keep up the good work 👏🏾
You are doing a great service with these videos, thank you and dont stop!
I am so happy to see you continue the exploration on this topic, I think this is truly world changing, we yearn for this in the 21st century.
As a lover that second chart stung. I know it bares out. I live a very unorganized life. Honestly that's all I've been trying to do lately is organize and structure my life.
Loving your content , keep up the good work !!!
Erin, thank you for explaining Mature Masculine Archetype. It is helping me to understand myself and how I can change & improve to be a mature man.
I have a suggestion about the use of white board. If I do it, I will put it in MS PPT and transition each point which will allow others to listen and anticipate the next point. I felt it was crowded and had to read through all the points before you finish explaining the presentation of that white board. I might be wrong on this but thought of sharing with you.
Thank you once again for explaining these concepts in an understandable and relatable way.
@@kelvinjohn2000 Thanks for the comment. Are you saying it would be better if I did like a google slides with me in the corner? I appreciate any and all feedback. Thank you
@@erinbyrd5377 Yes Erin. Wherever there is text or white board you can use Google slides with you embossed in the background and when you are talking, be back to the current mode (full screen). This will look great.
@ Thank you
I think I've been working towards mastering each side of myself with out any name to give them a name. I most see my strengths in the lover and warriors archetypes. Maybe having this name can give me something to focus on these points of growth. Thank you
@@Xull41st That probably means that you're on that axis. You're very self-aware.
I would say that I have traits from all the archetypes and found it difficult to decide which solutions to prioritize. My strongest archetype is the warrior and weakest is lover but I feel magician and king to be a close second and third.
I have been empowering positive traits and dis empowering toxic elements of my shadow self without any overarching theme(s) so I find videos like this super interesting. We need more information on this topic, especially when young men have very few masculine role models to lead us.
Love this video, great comprehensive breakdown.
Thank you for this!!
by chance are you a teacher? you took something really complex and ambiguous and made it all sound so simple and applicable thank you!
The center of this chart 5:08 is where I worked to get to for years. Self-Actualization is what I've always called it, so when i looked up "individuation" its basically the same. The problem with being in the center is others not knowing its possible. They look real surprised when They think you fit into one Archetype area but you can move to others at any moment. My own personal study finds that most feel uncomfortable around me when they notice that because you become too unpredictable. I have to "Play the fool" in order to create a false since of weakness in order to make others feel like they got me figured out.
well said, and i also struggle with this. you kind of have to assume a role, but then when you switch it up people feel threatened for some reason
@@thethrilla80 Yah, i control the "role" i assume by regulating what others "expect" of me at any moment. So managing Expectations becomes a key skill to stay in the center and not become what others want you to be.
@@IN-tm8mw I think most people assume that everyone else thinks like them, and sometimes the only option is to mirror them for self-preservation.
@@erinbyrd5377 True, over the years I've learned how to mirror their way to thinking without losing myself. This ability made me a perfect representor or mediator between different factions. Everyone want's to survive and thrive, but different locations have different resources and options, thus resulting in different ways of thinking. The biggest problem is when others think that every other way of thinking is inferior to theirs. But the best way to survive overall is to be as flexible/adaptable as possible. Still, its all a product of what your objectives and life goals are.
Please can we talk about this over DM, I'm a 21 year old mildly autistic male and would appreciate it
Funny thing about this all being theory:
It's helped me embrace life and want to be a better man to myself and others. Those people saying that can eat their empirical papers for all I care.
All of us know we can feel vibes. That we receive information like warnings from our subconscious. That we all have a hunch about something. Yet all these readings are also considered theory even though every human can tap into it.
Thank you, this helps me understand myself better and find out where to start on what I need to work on
Learned a lot. Thanks!
Fantastic video/channel. Keep up the great work. You are very easy to listen to, very pleasant and feminine voice full of radiating intelligence.
Long time ago i found out i have to learn more from lover archetype to be able to fully enjoy life, your points gave me quite a confirmation and ideas how to actually do that.
Thank you!
@@Jandaph This comment makes me so happy
Very useful. I am mostly magician myself, with some Warrior and i am currently reading Jung's Man and his Symbols to integrate the shadow.
I feel like I’m pretty balanced across the four archetypes but I also definitely notice myself struggling with all of the negatives from each and I’m not sure what to do about that
@@NolanKruse9 In my previous video on the masculine archetypes, I go into more detail about the shadow poles. Which one seems to be the most resonating with you?
Thanks for the work you do Erin its inspiring and you explain things in a digestible way. its difficult to find this information in a non aggressive way towards men.
It dawned on me that the underlying drive for philosophy in the Warrior is 'to know what is he fighting for'.
I really liked the whiteboards! Great visuals :)
Wasn't expecting this to teach me anything new but it did. 👏👏👏
Wonderful and comprehensive insights into what makes us tick. I really enjoyed it.
Hello, Erin. Could you consider making videos on the concept of individuation by Carl Jung and the hero's journey by Joseph Campbell, also covered by Christopher Vogler? I loved the videos on male archetypes, I've already watched them twice. Thank you! Keep up the good work.
def a lover+magician
I'm kinda young (18yo) but I was forced to mature early in life because of my father (who has not been present since I was 7, he didn't die, he just got the hell out of the country and doesn't want anything to do whith us) and the 3 men my mom brought to our lives when I was respectively 7, 10 and 16. Every one of them has taught me really important things, being the first 2 guys more into the magician/lover zones and the 3 one (who is one of the persons I trust the most in the world) being actually between the king/warrior zones, but also leaning a lot towards the magician. He came to our lives in a moment where I needed the warrior the most (not because of anxiety or anything else, but because of discipline) and he has been also a very good demonstration of the king archetype for me.
I've been following my evolution very close since 11 because at that age I had my biggest mystical conflict since I decided to become an atheist after being Catholic from birth (I'm not atheist anymore, thanks Christ). Getting to the point: my main archetypes are the magician and the lover, but I also lean towards the king, I'm a musician, so art and all the emotional areas have been important to me and many other things that fit in the lover; I love to learn all I can, from history, politics, philosophy, geography and economy to biology, chemistry and physics, but I always try to make creative solutions to my problems and many more things that fit in the magician; now, I had to develop leadership when I was around 13 (it was a mess back then, but now I understood the assignment 😂), I know when to say "no" when it's needed, I always try to care for the persons around me (family and friends) and when emotions or creativity don't really work I tend to be moral and logical driven. I tend to guide myself currently with my moral compass a lot, I despise betrayal with my life (probably because of my father and some situations I has with "friends" a few years ago) and value a lot the righteousness of how something was done, my morals currently are heavily influenced by traditional Christianity but also by philosophy and logic, maybe those things fit more jn the king.
I want to finish with my warrior archetype which has not been since the beginning of this journey my strongest one until now that I've veen trying to develop it: developing discipline has been hard and I still on my way to do it in a larger scale, carving wood has helped me a little with it and walking really long distances instead of just taking the bus has helped too, and when it comes to sports I love climbing. The warrior has been my weak point since I was very emotional when I was younger, but currently I have developed a pragmatism that has helped me endure some of hardest situations in my life without falling apart at the ages of 16 and 17 (long story).
I want yo apologize for the length of this text but also thank you a lot because I could now find appropriate terms for all this and a better view on the things I have to focus for better developing all my archetypes. Thanks!
Looking at these charts, I honestly don't know which one I fall into more. I express about the same number of traits from each one. I seems the best way to proceed would just be to look at where I'm lacking and work on those aspects to bring more of each archetype into a fuller expression when I'm coming from those places.
I love how all of us understand human psychology while we use it on a daily basis yet when we talk about it people say well there is no evidence of that. Amazing. Erin can you please tell us if you are married?
@@_JimmyBeGood I am married, yes. I also have an 8 year old daughter, who is my world.
@@erinbyrd5377Awe good for you. You are a lovely person and your husband is one lucky man. Your intelligence is very sexy.
what is it that you use on a daily basis that serves as evidence for "4 masculine archetypes"?
@@slide387 A thorough understanding of archetypes. Research Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell, who are two of my very favorite people, especially Jung.
hello,love from india,so thankful to have found this channel. Your work is absolutely amazing, i have been binge watching all your videos.
17:00 "Now you see me, now you don't."
I believe there is an oversight to this diagram, due to it's planar limitations. (also it has linear interpolation). Person could play out literally all of this roles at different stages, periods and contexts, not to mention there is dark side to this characters as well. After all these years of trying to understand people I have realized that it is futile - our search for truth could very well be just another story told by the mind, and in that regard that we are only good as the stories other minds create about us. That is why the compassionate and emotional men are often not selected to become fathers - at best they become surrogate parent to their significant other.
@@vukbabovic5031 The truth is that everyone has basically four personalities in their mind and we switch off based on the situation at hand. However, you have to reach a level of maturity before you can access one of the other sides of your mind. Children, for instance pretty much always stay in their ego because they're less developed.
thank you so much , i've been looking forward for this video since i watched the last one. Very informative , you put much work to make this video , with the charts and all. I'd love to see more videos on how to prevent yourself from reaching shadow poles like sadist and tyrant.
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We can't "prove" consciousness but we all know stories exist and that archetypes in stories came from the real experiences underlying those stories. In that way it's a better way of understanding.
I've been waiting for this video, thank you so much
excellent presentation!
I’m INFP older guy, dating a female warrior.
She’s very good for me although sometimes frustrating
This was absolutely amazing!! Thank you Ms Byrd.
I suppose these videos are a step towards better deductive reasoning? Doin' good!
Ah those three boards, the self-consciousness is adorable.
Very brilliant and inspirational. Thank you.
Thank you. I’ve been patiently waiting for this video. You are very informative and helpful to the community. Especially to men.
You're looking really good in this video .👌
lovely
Thank you so much for this. I hope you are well and safe. I love this content.
Immediately subbed
I seem to lean towards warrior, but i dabble with a lot of these aspects. Maybe a warrior lover combo most of all! Interesting stuff.
What a great presentation, I'm glad it found your channel.
I appreciate the model implying; assertiveness, aggression, lover and suprise. With the woman at the center this is a great diagram to explain to a difficult woman. This is not berating. Merely an appreciation of the affirmation of male characterists--however indirect. I will use this to build a more Christian understanding neglected by modernists in the church.
@@andrew1717xx I'm happy to hear you say this is compatible with Christianity.
@erinbyrd5377 You clearly put a lot of work into these presentations. You deserve some thanks!
I do not think that the diagram helps recogize scale or balance of each concept. I would suggest any people curious of Christianity to use the bible as a guide. One might feel suprised. 🤷♂️
I was waiting for this video! Very excited :)
I love how you made this chart seem like it's a pokemon state chart where you can maximize the amount of stuff in your pokemons personality to get the most out of their ability and type.
I also laughed when I heard Animus is where you got this chart from, I hate myself for knowing who that is.
@@thegunslinger8806 Lol, you think he's that bad??
@@erinbyrd5377 no I think it's funny the more I go around youtube circles the more I realize everyone's watching each other without ever interacting.
@@thegunslinger8806 I felt like he wasn't very thorough and I saw a need for improvement with the chart.
@@erinbyrd5377 a vague youtuber making charts with a not necessarily very fleshed out method of self improvement?! Perish the thought! Alright sarcasm and jokes aside, yes it's very vague, there's no proper one way methodology for these archetypes much less the method by which to improve one's self so its very vague and very up in the air, in my experience I learned that advise applies to the person giving advice and not the one receiving it, different strokes for different people and all that
Very Interesting if, we can manage to find a balance between the 4 without being codependent in triangulations with narcissist dynamics ir order to not be overwelmed. I think the key is to manage the 4 at different stages and times to avoid impulsivity and anxiety as an excuse to stay in a comfort zone of toxic money stability avoiding to truly know ourselves in the process. Best Regards!
I love this.
Thanks for the time & effort put into this. I enjoyed a lot of what you had say. Have you ever read the book "the power of now"?
Take my respect
Apparently I have a healthy balance of all 4 however I feel like I might be suffering the negative effects of rapidly developing the Warrior and Magician aspects in my mid 20s. Definitely feel like a robot and disassociating from groups.
I feel like all of those things and none of those things. Especially when it comes to the negative aspects. Not so much a pushover over or easily influenced anymore. I am a micromanager though. I use to not be able to say no, doesn't bother me now. Procastinating and being lazy is huge issue for me now though. I have all the negative traits of the warrior and magician. I abandoned everyone i care about. I didn't intend to.
I isolated myself from the world in order to motivate myself to do something I really dont want to do but is very important for me to do. I didnt think I'd still be here years later still trying to convince myself to do it. I wish I'd just get it over with already.
Thank you very informative
I am a Magician 🧙♂️
I feel like the most useful chart was the first one. Thanks!
Great video Erin, thanks for the 2 part series
I'm so totally the lover with a mix of the king.
When you said screens, I laughed so hard!!! If I were to get a divorce it would be because of that.
I appreciate how earnest and conscientious you are. Perhaps you have corporate presentation experience, or teaching?
I'm definitely on the warrior-magician end of the chart
Next up: Discover and Develop your Zodiac's Ascendant Powers. An Introduction to the Twelve Temperaments.
Well organized and thoroughly presented. Good Job!
awesome
Well done. Good video. I love this antagonization in stereotypes. Thanks you
Thank you :)
you are amazing...really, reminds me a brazilian philosopher who had a great didactic talent ......and you are so cute ....a big hug from Brazil
I have been looking forward to this video since the first part.
This video was phenomenal. I have been working towards my own versions of these archetypes for the past few months: the scholar, the warrior, and the monk. I feel like how I define scholar is how you define magician. The monk is more or less equivalent to the lover archetype. The Warrior(my interpretation) would be your equivalent of the warrior plus the king.
Awesome video, exactly what I’ve been looking for. Really professional and well done! Would you be able to hold each white board fully on screen even just for a second so I can pause to help me get a full picture and take notes?
I’m kinda surprised that you didn’t use a tripod or something so that you didn’t have to hold that up. But whatever works for you. Keep up the great work. Can’t wait for the next video.