the Carthaginians used African wood elephants they were the smallest of the elephants, they were easier to train, and its believed they did not fight with a howda. they were protected by skirmishers and Rome feared them more then any other elephant due to them being closer to the ground and able to trample people very easily and there quickness in turning . after the 3rd Punic war, Rome had them all hunted down and killed, so they would never face them again. Today there are no Wood Elephants left.
It is a superb set and working through mine at present. Got a few small boxes of Romans and will use some of the allied forces in this set to bolster them. The Elephants are superb and saving them till last
These are really nice figs, picked up the box and have the allied box as well. Looking forward to painting them. I will probably buy other elephants as a box if two stands appears to be $35 US
I've been painting these up for a few weeks, my first experience with this scale. I really like the sculpts, there's enough variety to keep me interested as I get through the sprues. I've almost got enough Carthaginians for 3 divisions so will be swapping over to the Romans soon and hopefully will get a small game of Hail Caesar in before Christmas!
@ModellingforAdvantage Alas, I'm not on Facebook, but I'm aiming for tabletop standard using mostly Speedpaint and so far they look pretty good from 3 feet away!
Carthege was a trading empire, teh Phoenicians had a small land and huge rade network. I guess Carthege did have the alnds available but unlike Rome it is not a citizen state wehere many gets to be full citizens easily (a bit like the Greek city states)?
The Numidians wore undyed cotton garbs, not red. Their shields were cow hide or animals hide skins. The Royal/Nobles may have worn red (makes sense to me). The African wood elephants were smaller and had no howdah, with JLS troop(s) and a Mahout, no bows or pikes/LTS of any sort. Those elephants look like Successor War Elephants and crew. that army looks very appealing to me too! (Iplayed 7th Edition back in the day - Carthaginian Army). The Indians used to feed wine to their horses in order to negate their instincts when elephants were around. There are no sources stating the Carthaginian elephants caused issues amongst their own army (cavalry). Remember that North Africa was a lot greener than it is today re wood African Elephants. Carthage had stables in its walls for at least 300 elephants. Carthage also had its own "Sacred Band" in its early armies which were made up of Carthaginian nobility BUT when they were wiped out in 1st Punic Wars they were never replaced, as infantry. The 2nd Punic war would have seen Carthaginian nobility as HC JLS Sh. The Libyan infantry were essentially made up from various Greek settlements in Northern Africa HI LTS SH.
Been having a lot of fun painting these. I think a greeks/successors range is almost guaranteed
A sprue of guys in Corinthian helmets would be pretty universally useful.
the Carthaginians used African wood elephants they were the smallest of the elephants, they were easier to train, and its believed they did not fight with a howda. they were protected by skirmishers and Rome feared them more then any other elephant due to them being closer to the ground and able to trample people very easily and there quickness in turning . after the 3rd Punic war, Rome had them all hunted down and killed, so they would never face them again. Today there are no Wood Elephants left.
Interesting, do you have a source for this?
Great unboxing, not surprised you chose Hannibal's forces 😄
Of course.
It is a superb set and working through mine at present. Got a few small boxes of Romans and will use some of the allied forces in this set to bolster them. The Elephants are superb and saving them till last
I was having the same thoughts - mixing up which of the allies I use with which army.
These are really nice figs, picked up the box and have the allied box as well. Looking forward to painting them. I will probably buy other elephants as a box if two stands appears to be $35 US
I will certainly be going for more elephants!
Welcome Alan. A lot of stuff in that box. Who doesn't want Oliphants in their ancients army :)
Indeed!
I've been painting these up for a few weeks, my first experience with this scale. I really like the sculpts, there's enough variety to keep me interested as I get through the sprues. I've almost got enough Carthaginians for 3 divisions so will be swapping over to the Romans soon and hopefully will get a small game of Hail Caesar in before Christmas!
Making excellent progress sir - maybe share them on the FB group so we can see how you are getting along.
@ModellingforAdvantage Alas, I'm not on Facebook, but I'm aiming for tabletop standard using mostly Speedpaint and so far they look pretty good from 3 feet away!
The optional elephant heads warlord have made available look like a must buy.
still no Jonny b?is he ok?
They sure do!
Carthege was a trading empire, teh Phoenicians had a small land and huge rade network. I guess Carthege did have the alnds available but unlike Rome it is not a citizen state wehere many gets to be full citizens easily (a bit like the Greek city states)?
There are thousands of preserved Punic inscriptions, but no literary texts, much like the Etruscan language.
... and importantly.. no idea what any of those inscriptions say.
@@ModellingforAdvantage That is also very untrue. Instead, a limited vocabulary given that most are votive/religious with a limited subject matter.
@@JohanVek your going to need evidence for a claim like that.
@@ModellingforAdvantage
Corpus Inscriptionum Semiticarum might be a place to start.
The Numidians wore undyed cotton garbs, not red. Their shields were cow hide or animals hide skins. The Royal/Nobles may have worn red (makes sense to me). The African wood elephants were smaller and had no howdah, with JLS troop(s) and a Mahout, no bows or pikes/LTS of any sort. Those elephants look like Successor War Elephants and crew. that army looks very appealing to me too! (Iplayed 7th Edition back in the day - Carthaginian Army). The Indians used to feed wine to their horses in order to negate their instincts when elephants were around. There are no sources stating the Carthaginian elephants caused issues amongst their own army (cavalry). Remember that North Africa was a lot greener than it is today re wood African Elephants. Carthage had stables in its walls for at least 300 elephants. Carthage also had its own "Sacred Band" in its early armies which were made up of Carthaginian nobility BUT when they were wiped out in 1st Punic Wars they were never replaced, as infantry. The 2nd Punic war would have seen Carthaginian nobility as HC JLS Sh. The Libyan infantry were essentially made up from various Greek settlements in Northern Africa HI LTS SH.
I have no idea where I got this idea from, because I am clearly wrong, but I genuinely thought I had read that somewhere at some time.
I started to collect what I thought was a Carthaginian army but wound up with an Alexandrian Macedonian army instead. Oh well, lol.
Oh no, sounds like you need a new project!
@@ModellingforAdvantage Been decades ago. Traded those + for over 600 tin soldier molds. Been working on some WWII FoW Soviets, lol.
How does it compare to psc ultracast
Same stuff, like Ultracast, they use a new formula now and it is a lot better.