Coleman CT200 EX minibike / Mikuni carburetor / governor removal
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Coleman CT200 EX minibike / Mikuni carburetor/governor removal.
Installed a VM22 MIkuni carburetor on the Coleman CT200U-EX minibike.
Did a top-speed run to see how much difference the governor removal and carburetor swap would make in Performance?
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I'm guessing nothing stays stock in your garage huh ?..It's all good tho..You got the need for speed,hahaha 👍
Yes, we have the need for speed. We had this Coleman bike for about 12 hours before we tore off the stock carburetor lol
This guy doesn't even use stock in his chicken noodle soup
For those who are like me that’s not trying to spend money all you have to do is zip tie the spring that’s on the governor under the gas tank and that will stop it from engaging. Zip tie it tight and I promise u will see a big difference mines go 41 mph and all it cost me was 3 dollars for the pack of 100 zip ties lol
Check out the Ct200U-EX playlist and other playlists for zip-tied governor and many other combos with this bike. Thanks for watching! ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html
Actually that mod doesn't work man, it just turns the spring into a linkage. To gain any rpm you have to move the spring outward. Stop spreading misinformation
@@stonesbouldersbonesit got mines up to 43mph with no other mods 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Edit: 45**
@@stonesbouldersbones Ur the same type of person that says u dont need an aluminum flywheel when u rev past 4800rpm
Thank you gonna try it out
I got my ct200uex used for $100 because it had problems. The head was never toqued down. Barely finger tight. The cylinder was full of water and the intake valve was open and rusted. Modded it out and now it’s a blast.
That's the way to get them ! The cheaper the better
Mine went 35 with the stock carburetor and governor removed. You should remove the muffler and put a header. It will up the speed to about 38 with the mikuni. These are very fun bikes and you should consider buying a torque converter, specially with the weight of these bikes. I otherwise do love this build
Oh ya for sure !! I really want to add that torque converter .
@@Black66 i have a stage 1 kit and a torque converter. It goes 43 without the governor. Also lowers the cruising rpm. Really good investment
@@smallengines4us922 A torque converter would really make this bike fly. .
We have a few more videos on this bike . But no torque converter yet.
@@Black66 can’t wait to see em’
I have 2 of these the ct200u-ex and the bt200x. Both stock clocked at 15-16mph stock. Cut governor screws off now 25-27mph. So interested in what the stage 2 kit will really bring it to. But im thrown off by them saying stock is 25. Because both mine came governed at 15mph. I purchased 1 in Missouri and 1 in California.
I can not express enough how fustrating it is to see you make it easy, I broke my throttle cable and this probably the best route for me to fix it, now to only figure out how to put this modification on. working on mechanical stuff should be pratice for monk training.
i’m honestly about to tear my whole house apart in a fit of rage because of this same stupid problem.
@@julian5443 what's going on?
He's been doing things like this for decades brother, don't get discouraged! Keep at it!
@@eddiesheeran5791well that was a year ago, I had to sell it lol I'm broke now. Appreciate it though
A way to make this minibike faster for free (if you have the means necessary to add/remove links from the chains) is to remove the two middle sprockets and drive the rear wheel directly from the clutch on the engine. If your chain has a little bit of stretch in it it works better. Your acceleration will be worse, but I gps tested top speed to 44 mph (23 mph before)
Oh ya, I hear ya. We could do that but we like doing things the hard way lol. We got this bike to 45 MPH in our later videos with the jackshaft. We added a header pipe, 40 tooth sprocket, and a 7-degree keyway. Check em out.
I do the same thing and it indeed is way better! I went to a larger rear sprocket to compensate for the loss of bottom end and I use a skateboard wheel as a tensioner/guide. I agree you gotta run a little bit of slack🤙👊
I'm digging this build! I'm considering a small tire ultralight but where I live the terrain is a serious drawback for small displacement and sprockets.
Now that would be a cool build if you could get an area to run it. I would like to see that
I’m about to buy one of these, but I’m a noob. I’ve rode mini bikes my whole life and I know simple stuff, but a governor removal like that is like rocket science to me.
You can do it. It’s not to bad .
@@Black66 just got it today. I’m still nervous about totally removing the governor, but I’m pretty sure I found a way to bypass it with a zip tie. Do you know of the method I’m talking about?
@@ontheflipsideedc Congratulations! Yes, the zip tie basically turns the spring into a straight rod so the governor mechanism cant pull back the throttle.
@@Black66 I’ve heard a few people say that doing that mod can potentially cause valve float and I’m not trying to get that deep into the bike, but I did do a couple other little mods, I cut the throttle stop screw off and shortened the spring on the throttle cable stop thing, and I moved the spring that we were talking about previously to the farthest hole on the governor arm. Went from 19 mph to 25 mph. But I am trying to get to about 30-35 mph. So there’s more work to be done, just not exactly sure what yet. Might go with a torque converter, might just downsize the rear sprocket and upsize the clutch sprocket. Haven’t quite decided yet. I love the torque on this thing though and I know changing the sprockets can mess with the torque. Thanks for your help though and my apologies for my long rant lol
@@ontheflipsideedc With a 40 rear sprocket and a torque converter. The bike will be quicker and faster than stock. The torque converter makes up the difference in torque loss and then some, from the 40 tooth sprocket.
I am boring lol I kept mine stock for years now and I use it a LOT . Going for years now. Really enjoy seeing people doing mods.
Cars n camera who? Lol. Black 66 is my new mini bike channel! Subbed cause I like what I've seen so far. 💯💪🇺🇲
Thanks! Thanks for watching the videos!
I had a torque converter and a stage 1 kit on my ct200u ex and I hit 50 mph with the governor
Hey Black66 you should have bought a Trailmaster MB200 or hurricane 200x in stead and and swapped the factory 196cc engine for a tillotson 212 and then installed a 12 front sprocket and done a full stage 1 performance upgrade and that is a high performance intake bigger main jet high performance exhaust and governor removal.
That's one I can still do later on.
Its such a fun ride, can't wait to make it faster!
That worked better than most. They usually get 31-32 at valve float with the stock gearing. You were turning around 5900 RPM.
Yes, this bike runs really well. We have some more videos coming up. We got it to run faster yet.
When building a throttle cable for a Mikuni from an old throttle cable, use an axle spacer from a slot car. Safety tip, when starting your minibike or go kart, always put the front against a wall or something solid just in case you have a run away throttle.
I have the ct200u-ex and whenever I turn it on the bike just starts going full throttle any suggestions on how to fix that?
@@bankrollalmighty40
Did this start after repairs or modifications?
Yea it started after I did the modifications
@@bankrollalmighty40
What modifications did you make?
I took off the governor and I also installed a vm22 mikuni carburetor on it
Black66 thank you for your input about main jets, I ordered a set but haven't arrived yet.
I have one of these. I can't wait to tear into it
WARNING : Do not leave the governor mechanism inside the motor. It can, and will, come apart or move around where it will break the oil slinger off of the connecting rod.. Even the smallest broken pieces will jam the compression release from working.....or worse. If you must leave the inner workings in place, then re-install the lever and tie it into the far forward position. This will keep the inner assembly from coming apart.
Please read my channel description and disclaimers in the video's. I tell people not to do what I do. if you do, you do it at your own risk. This is what this channel is about. Testing different combinations and doing things most say I shouldn't. By the way, I have had this bike on the channel for over a year with many different combos on the stock internal 196cc without ever opening the case. This is a durability test. It has passed so far. Check out the playlist. Thanks for watching the videos. ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html
@@Black66 how did you keep the governor arm from spinning?
i wish i could see a picture of what you mean by tying it into the far forward position. I put a mikuni carb on & naturally the gov assembly no longer functions but quite frankly I wish i could’ve just kept the gov funtioning. Im getting a built race engine next month so for now i just wanna ride it with it governed.
@@GenZBiker what kind of motor fully built are you getting? And where can I get one? I have a Coleman CT 200 U.
@@DavidZamora-jl3vb It will be a Ducar 212 that Im having a local Wisconsin builder make for me!
Hell yeah can't wait to see more upgrades.
Thanks!! Ya, we have quite a bit more stuff we're gonna do to it.
@@Black66 sweet 🤙
My mini bike is the rt200 stock straight chain stock just govenor removed and tops out at 55
Nice, the black one wasn't available I had to go with the red one.
Nice color! I have had the Coleman bike to 63 MPH, check out the video ua-cam.com/video/Up6TpJiopEo/v-deo.html
Nice learning new tricks
Man bro you are one smart man you're like MacGyver you can modify anything and that Colman is sharp looking bike keep wrenching love to see your work !!!!!
Thanks! Appreciate that
I knew it was coming been looking for it!!😁 I wish u were my neighbor lol
That is awesome!! I wish you were too. We did more after this video. It gets faster lol
You’re not EXPLAINING anything you’re doing to the noob viewer… Youd probably find yourself with plenty more views & engagement if you’d actually share what you’re doing with the rest of us… Other than that, good stuff.
Whats the governor?
@@IDontKnowLuis governor is like a stopper of how fast u can go on a mini bike, remove that and you can go so much faster, there’s 2 ways😂
would of been nice to see how to hook the throttle up to the stock carb for the govern removal
Check out he B200 playlist. Shows stock carb hook up without the governor
An another thing when you were plugging up the whole you said you can use the sealer of your choice what is the name of sealer that you used an were can I get it at? My apologies for all the questions I'm new at this but can't wait to get this show on the road 😂
loctite will work
You got back to me quick lolz thank you👍
Black 66, I need help again lol. I have a torque converter kit for a coleman hisun and now im switching it over to a tilly 212. The 4 bolts that hold the torque converter to the block are not threading in fully and im afraid im going to strip the threads in the block. Are these bolts the same size for both the hisun and the tilly or are they different? The bolts thread in a couple of threads but then stop. I appreciate all the help you offer.
So did you use the original cable and just modify it or did you actually use the cable that came in the kit and did you have to modify that cable ?? Any details would help us out, thanks for a awesome video !!!
Modified the stock cable. You can solder a new tip on the end. Or zap the cable with a welder to put a new end on it.
So you can leave the governor in the engine like that
It’s always recommended to take out the governor wheel in the crankcase . Just one less thing to come apart . But with that being said a haven’t taken this one out or even opened the case with no problems at all .
Only 33 mph with a Mikuni carb and the governor removed??? I just bought the exact same one a week ago and all I did was cut off the throttle stop screw and zip tied the governor and mine goes 30 mph, 31 mph downhill. I was thinking about getting a KX-80 2-stroke engine or an engine off a KX-100, which would make it fast as hell! Shit, I might put a 1000 cc street rocket engine in it! Lmao
You are right, the stock carb can definitely get you into the thirties. The real reason for the Mikuni that a lot of people don't realize is if you are planning to do future modifications, The Mikuni will support the future mods with ease. It is super easy to tune. We have had this bike into the fifties in future videos.
If you hadn’t put in the mikuni carb where would you have attached the throttle cable to?
Check out this playlist on my cc200u. Same set up with the re-jetted stock carb ua-cam.com/video/ZFLSbnoH59g/v-deo.html
What happens if that clip falls off that round deal you took the arm off under the gas tank? Serious question will something catastrophic happen or no?
It won’t fall in there cause it’s has a clip stoping it from dropping
I just got a arco bushwacker with a lifan 196 on it im excited to throw a mikuni clone on it
go over that coleman logo and put one that reads BLaCK66
Good idea!!
@@Black66 of corse dude THANKS FOR KEEPIN THE DREAM ALiVE!!!!! pASS it on
@@SoLoCruizer yes!! Gotta keep it goin
@@Black66 idefinitly so on the contrary im trying to go viral so im gonna come out with this ticktock thing called the shadow dance if china catch on to it before me im screwed ill be under 100 subs forever basically u film your shadow dancing and be like oh shadow dance lmao wtf
@@Black66 wat ya think bud kinda fruity rite lol
Been watching a lot of your videos…lots of great info. I was just handed a Baja mb200…at least I’m pretty sure that’s what it is. Looks the same as your Coleman but the frame is different. Same 196cc engine that’s locked up. The bike was barely used and left sitting outside for a few years. So I got a new predator 212 non hemi for $150 and am getting ready to put it on there. It appears that it will bolt directly in place. I remember this bike being slow and I’d really like to have a bit more go…will the predator make it faster by doing nothing else? Or do I need to remove the governor? Mostly just want to ride some trails with my son, but occasionally I might wanna ride down to the store or just ride to the fishing hole…thanks!
Thanks! MB200 is a nice bike. The governor will definitely hold it back. If you don't want to do anything else throwing a zip tie in the governor spring will wake up the Predator like in the Predator free mods video. If you start spinning it faster it is recommended to upgrade the flywheel . ua-cam.com/video/y3pl7KiSTmY/v-deo.html
Watched that video and it was helpful. I’d like to see it go about 35 maybe….I think I’ll be happy with that for now, is the stock carb on the predator 212 good for that? It seems the Mikuni sticks out a bit and I’d be worried about taking a spill and breaking something.
awesome build but would’ve been better without the stock exhaust :/
Thanks! Check out the playlist for the CT200U-EX The bike has had many combos without the air box . The channel is mainly about testing different combos. ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html
Was there any issues only removing the governor arm and not the actual governor inside the engine?
No issues while the 196 was on the bike. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many engine and part combos with this bike.ua-cam.com/video/jHf9yJmaZLA/v-deo.html
I Need help I need to find a dirt bike carb for my Coleman bt200x mini bike Someone help!
I have the same bike & also removed the external gov assembly. Just to be clear, did you guys ever remove the internal gov parts? If not, did you blow up the engine over time? Id love to be able to continue to run this engine with the mikuni carb but worry itll blow up w no gov.
Check out the Coleman CT200U-EX playlist. We used this engine for many different part combs over the last couple of years. ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html
@@Black66 Just finished watching all the vids in the playlist. Great selection of content man. Can you confirm you never built the internals on the 196 or removed the internal gov? I have a built engine on the way in the next month but wanna enjoy the stock engine till then.
I bought a go kart off Facebook market place and the guy I bought it off of him and his kids pulled the governor out and the go kart top out at 50mph the scariest part about me owning it was the fact the right front tire was missing the cotter pin so the wheel would wiggle when you drove it when I got it I drove it in the drive way A little and noticed it but I was determined to see how fast it went so I drove it on to the road and just hit the gas and just risked it
(Note) I did not have a helmet on at the time lmao
idk where they get it as 196 cc? lts a 50 cc engine ~ might be even a 90 cc > Make the glove box a functional fuel tank on top make the bottom a tool box or make a tool box on back of the seat
I did that with the fuel.tank . Check out the playlist
@@Black66 Very cool
You did all of that masterful removal and installation for the bike to still be slow as hell. THANKS BUT NO THANKS
This is one of many combos. Check out the playlist ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html
I have the same exact kind and I was hoping if u can upgrade mine
I heard some guys using fishing line weights on the end of their throttle cable which they then solder shut after they pinch them on.
There are a lot of different ways to do it. I like taking all of the governor hardware off. It makes the engine more clean-looking that way.
If that has a variator trans setup, like a scooter, you can get a few more mph buy taking to spacer out of it.
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. We got this bike over 60 MPH so far. Thanks for watching! ua-cam.com/video/jHf9yJmaZLA/v-deo.html
Hey i put a new carb on and took the governor off and replaced the throttle now when i start my bike it just runs wide open and takes off by itself?
My baja had the same problem. I put it up on a wooden box to free up the rear wheel. There are three holes on the governor arm where the spring from your throttle connect. I removed that spring & brought it to hardware store. Bought a bunch of similar springs that are the same length. Some tigher some looser, all the same length. You can also go on amazon and order kits of springs for you ride real cheap.. Use the new springs and try fitting it into 3 different holes of that gov swing arm. You will get the right fit sooner or later. Got mine to stop running wild at idle. Also GAINED 6 MPH!!
What did you do with your throttle cable? I did exactly what you did and now my cable sticks in WOT after taking the springs off. I don’t understand
Quick question my minibike turned off while riding now when I turn it on it only goes 10 mph or less and doesn’t get any faster
Have the same problem
So when you say you removed the governor, you just removed the all the hardware on the outside of the engine… you didn’t remove the internal governor gear… correct
No, I have never opened the case on this engine . It still has the nylon wheel inside
Great video, What size fuel hose did you use for the tank going to the carb...
Thanks, the fuel line is linked in the description of the video. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many more engine and part combos with this bike. ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html
You dont even have to do all tht... The Mikuni carb is just for looks, cuz all I did was zip tie the black spring, left a litttle wiggle room and got the same results in MPH
I love the Mikuni. They are super easy to tune for future modifications to the engine. They also add a good amount of torque. It seems a lot quicker with the Mikuni.
Yeah TheCountUp. Is basically just bypassing the governor and that's it. You bypassed the governor and upgraded carbs, that's undeniably better..
@@Partnerthedog We did more than that in other videos
@@Black66 yes I know im just saying this guy was wrong because his zip tie trick doesn't upgrade the carb thats all.
How do you reassemble with the stock carburetor? Wish you didn’t skip over that part.
Check out the playlist on the channel for stock carb videos.
Why tear it apart when all you have to do is remove the governor linkage? Way easier with same results lol
The channel is about having fun with minibikes and testing minibike parts . Check out the over 400 videos on the channel. Thanks for watching!
Take off the stock choke lever and stick that cylindrical end in the fuel line, that's what it's for but nobody knows it!!Why else would it be shaped like that?? It's so when you are servicing the motor you can plug the supply line.
Good tip!
Just wait till I get done building my mini bike. I am going to pass you like you were standing still.
Yes! because you have that secret engine. The one you used in the time machine.
So where you removed the governor arm, has it ever moved and died all the sudden? Or is it that simple. You made it look so easy and way simpler than factory..
Ya, it is that easy . The Mikuni makes it so easy . Basically pull all the factory stuff off , install the carb , good to go . I really like the Mikuni . No messing with all that linkage , brackets , arms none of it .
@@Black66 does this apply with my c100 212?! Just picked it up tonight and it’s a torque monster completely stock!
Just removed mine completely and put the 18lb springs in . When putting the throttle plate back on with the stock carburetor, where do I put the spring so the throttle doesn’t stay wide open? Thanks ahead of time
Check out this video. You can see where I put the springs. ua-cam.com/video/mD_UvdIq1r0/v-deo.html
7 plus mph gain thays awesome
Thanks! Check out the other videos on this bike. We got it to run even faster
i bought an aftermarket cable to do exact setup as you instead of modifying existing one, the one i bought was 50" long but seems to be about 2.5" too long. any suggestions?
Guess you could always cut it and zap the end with a mig welder to create a new tip or solder a new tip on it .
About 2 and 1/4 sticking out of the end is about right for the vm22
You unhooked the governor but didn’t take it out. Did you just leave it set
This is a test bike on the channel. I wanted to see what the long term effects would be without taking out the nylon wheel.
Hi, what are your thoughts about getting a bullet flywheel for this engine after getting a stage 1,2, or 3 performance kit. Do I need it?
Yes, a billet flywheel is definitely a good idea. Or at least one of the cast flywheels that is rated to 8500 RPM . They are inexpensive good insurance. I use one in the budget 212 build on the channel .
Hey man I've got basically the same ct200u-ex setup and I'm having trouble with it stalling would you have any idea why?
Is there an alternative bike with similar specs and frame etc? I've been looking for one for several months.
I can't buy this in Europe/Germany over the normal sites because they don't offer international shipping and I can't find it on Ebay or Amazon etc...
Hey black 66 I got a mikuni but I put it on and the engine sounds like it’s going to blow up do you have any tips? I was thinking re jet
Btw it’s on a brand new no mods at all predator 212
Maybe try the procedure in this video ua-cam.com/video/MnQvIlFX8hM/v-deo.html
Guess what just happened, the same coleman mini bike you have right now, when I left the black fuel choke on while the motorcycle was off, gas was leaking and as soon was I ride the mini bike, the motorcycle was caught on fire and now its ruined, is there any way you can send me some link options on Amazon I can buy to get the new engine. It can be the 212 predator.
@@Black66 I should show you the video on my tiktok what it looks like it's damaged
whoa the black back ground is freaking me out UA-cam MAKE IT STOP
Ok so I removed the external governor, installed my Mikuni carb... tried your soldering but that didn't work so I ordered a new one. One question... it has a choke but now no fuel cut off?
i have an issue on mine where when you crank it it full throttles and the throttle isnt engaged and then when you try to accelerate it slows down like the throttle needle is up when you start it and when you acelerate the needle goes down and it wont stop i have to hit the kill switch anyone know any solutions?
Hey man I have a question for you. Would you say this carburetor mod is fairly simple to install? You made it look easy but Im sure That comes from experience lol, long story short I tried to change my Jet on my Stock carb, but the old Jet got stripped somehow and it became a shit show, so now I have to upgrade it fortunately.
Super easy! My next video on Saturday is doing another carb. It's not on this bike, but it's the same process. Check it out.
@@Black66 forsure man i look forward to it. I need to get my little baby On the road i just installed my torque converter and it’s night and day difference so I can imagine am upgraded carb haha good stuff thanks bro! 👍🏻
Ik it’s from a while ago but can you explain in more depth?
Don’t you have to remove the governor internally for it to not engage?
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for part tests and engine swaps along with governor removals on the CT200U-EX ua-cam.com/video/jHf9yJmaZLA/v-deo.html
Hello. For the mikuni was it the 22mm or the 26mm? I have the same bike.
It's a VM22 Mikuni but the actual venturi size is 26mm
I would love to do your modifications. Is the flywheel going to explode at your rpms? I’m worried about that.
I have never had a problem with one at the level this engine is at . If I was to add a cam and billet rod and other parts to increase the RPM potential, then I would start thinking of adding a billet flywheel .
@@Black66 thanks for your quick response! Another question I had is the reliability of the engine. How reliable would it be with these mods? Would it harm the engine?
@@Farmtractor This is one of the bikes we actually ride around a lot . It has been rock solid with months of riding so far. . The 196 cc seems really durable . The only problem we had to fix so far was the chain on the jack shaft .
@@Black66 that makes me feel very confident. Thank you so much! I’ll have to try this out!
I don’t know if you already answered this question but, what size did the carburetor’s jet come in?
It had a 98 in it when I got it .
You guys are in Az huh? Can ya help me with mine?
Gods I love you
I remember back when I was a kid my father told me that taking the gov off of my go cart would explode/destroy the engine is that true and is it true for go carts and dirt bikes alike
@Dave N thanks
@Danang Alta do you know how I could do this with no risk like adding parts to it
How safe is it to ride without the governor?
what did u put voodoo on this vid man i cant stop watchin it
Yes! lol It's😂 going to make you watch it over and over lol
@@Black66 thats messed up man hay when u gonna get a motovox frame like mine it has good front suspension ..ur bke is cool tho too that green one is crazy fast now huh i bet u scared to drive it
@@SoLoCruizer ya, I want one like your math at frame is sweet . I’ll try and get one .
I tried that ten tooth on the little bike . It made it quick quick , but it tops out quick too so I put the 12 tooth back on until I can get a different rear sprocket so I can balance it with a little more top speed
could you put a link in the description saying where you got the carb
Here ya go. The carb and intake
www.ebay.com/itm/184813872862?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
www.ebay.com/itm/254708226585?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Thank you for the video, I did this mod
but I left the governor arm connected. Does that make a difference?
So you dont need to remove the internals like you would on a like a honda engine, when removing the governor???
The channel is about testing different parts and engine combos. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many engine combos with this bike and others! Thanks for watching. ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html
@Black66 I mean that's a generic automated sounding response, I'm looking for a yes or no lol
Question… I’m on the Mikuni website, what size carb should I buy for my 196cc Coleman?
There are so many different carbs to choose from! I don’t want one that’s going to be to much or not enough for the motor. What size/model carb did you guys use?
I used a VM22 on this build Because it is easy to tune, the low cost and it supports future upgrades better than the stock carb. There are others I have used on the channel that have better performance but cost a little more. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist
ua-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/v-deo.html
Is there a video of taking the governor off and using the original carburetor?
I have a video that came out last week on the CC200U . I jetted the stock carb .
Same engine as the CC200U - EX
I’m not sure if you answered this question or not but I’m going to order this carburetor for mine tomorrow do you happen to know the fuel size needed? And Did you have to use any adapters to connect it to the gas tank, only reason I ask is I know on the Honda gas tanks the nipple on the tank is smaller than the carb and I haven’t pulled this one apart yet . Thanks in advance
No, I didn't use adapters. The jetting might be different than mine because of my elevation, engine mods etc. Check out this video on VM22 tuning. ua-cam.com/video/MnQvIlFX8hM/v-deo.html
@@Black66 Alright I’ll check it out, do you know the fuel line size by chance you used?
@@emjester48 The links for the parts used is in the description
I really appreciate your videos and viewer engagement. I tried that soldering trick on my cable and can't get it to stick well. I get it on there, let it cool and when I pull the throttle it comes off. Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks! Ya, you definitely want to get that thing to stick really good. Don't need that coming off while the engine is running. Use some paste flux on it and then let the iron sit on the cable tip until it gets really hot. That way some of the heat is in the cable and then apply the solder. That way it penetrates into cable as your applying the solder.
. If you have a MIG welder or a flux core wire feed welder you can simply clamp the ground on the metal cable and then just tap the electrode on the cable really quick. It will leave an end on it. If you don't have that you can use a handheld propane torch to solder it on there too. just be careful not to overheat the cable. Sometimes it will get too hot for the solder. You could always just grab a proper length cable with an end already on it .
@@Black66 Thanks. I ordered a proper length cable with the end on it. Out of curiosity, would a ball of epoxy work too?
@@curtisbrown5254 Im not sure. I have never tried that. It has to be something that wont come off while the the engine is running or the engine might not be to happy.LOL
I think they must have changed something about those new cvts, mine still has all the governor stuff and goes 45 and approaches 50 when driving with the wind
Sweet! Oh ya for sure there are differences. Depending on if they have a torque converter or a jack shaft, How quick they get to top speed. some take forever. I've seen some have vented fuel tanks and some not, depending on the region that they were sold in. I think the carb jetting could be different on those versions. You figure the altitude the bike is running in plays a role. The higher evaluation they tend to be slower. The bottom line is there is a lot of difference but I know one thing for sure. I have fun at it no matter how fast or slow it is.
@@Black66 true that, i am at 2000 feet above sea level, pretty low, never have thought about that before
What do you mean by CVT’s ? Sorry im new at this and im trying to understand lol
@@Proto2011Rail the cvt is the continuous variable transmission that these motor bikes used to get power to the wheel, it's two pulleys with a belt under the black cover on the left side.
I believe they've changed ratios so that the engine has to spin quicker for the same speed
@@nathanpratt3058 so essentially a torque converter?
instead of taking that governor assembly completely off couldn't you have zip tied the spring
You can do that and you will gain performance , but the governor still has a small effect on the performance of the engine. If you watch my CC100x video about governor removal the bike still cut off at higher RPM until I removed the entire assembly. Eventually I also removed the nylon wheel out of the crankcase . For complete governor removal.
@@Black66 yeah I no but I am looking to buy one of those contraptions and I don't need but 35 mph and that can be done with zip tying and taking the throttle stop screw out I don't really want to break open that motor
How did you get the original throttle cable to work I swear I did the exact thing and it binds and I get so much free play and half throttle
Maybe there is to much cable sticking out for the slide...
Any adjustments that would fix my issue or just replace with new throttle cable all together?
Hey I did this and put it back together because i needed to by the mod. But when I put it back together and everything is where it's supposed to be.... When I start it it's runs but when I hit the throttle it doesn't do anything... But when I turn the choke off the wheel starts spinning... How do I make it normal
I put a mikuni carb on my bike (exact model in vid) and it takes off even when I am not on the accelerator. How can I fix this?
Check out these two videos. They might answer your question. Thanks for watching! ua-cam.com/video/b5bY-1gIWWk/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/MnQvIlFX8hM/v-deo.html
Did you eventually go back and remove the internal governor, I'm new to this and I'm thinking about doing the same thing you did, in fact the mikuni carb it's on he's way here now 😁
No. I have never had the case apart. Only external mods. This bike is kind of a test bike for me. I have been running the 196 pretty hard for about a year now. This thing has held up. No problems so far.
How long did you cut the cable to put the bit on it
@@zacharyd9029 The cable should have about 2 1/4 inch of cable sticking out of the cable housing for a VM22
Blow up the engine already so we can see the predator in it 😂
Did you have to take the side casing apart and take the governor gear out ?
This is one bike in the fleet that I havent taken out the governor gear.
Definitely a good idea to take it out.
Thank you so much I appreciate you taking time to reply
I would put a 30 series tc and you'll go 50 all day
That is so true. Maybe we will end up doing that.
What’s a good card kit for it ?
@@mannyrodriguez9293 VM22 Mikuni . You can find it on Amazon
@@Black66 there’s one I think will work but I don’t know could u help?
@@Black66 it says it’s a vm22 3847
So yeah I installed my mikuni I see their is a pin where the governer is my thing is pushed all the way down my question is I start riding my bike which is the same one you have and I go 3/4 throttle and the bike goes back and forth and slows down same carb thanks if you can answer back
what was the welding process with the welding tool?
soldering
Can you please give me advice I installed a mikuni carb on a 200cc stock Coleman motor with a governor delete and swapped a 125 jet the throttle response is amazing but the idle is too high and I already adjusted the idle speed screw all the way out i don’t know what it may be
If there are no leaks anywhere, this video might help , here is the link ua-cam.com/video/MnQvIlFX8hM/v-deo.html
Hey what app are this guying to keep track of speed?????
I use digiHUD on the phone along with the camera GPS for top speed and a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30
I have a Massimo Motors 200cc(196cc) minibike with centrifugal clutch and jackshaft, 19in wheels and the bike weighs 164lbs, I weigh 135lbs and current sprocket setup is a 10t to 20t-10t to 50t and I have a GPS top speed of 31mph. Used GR calculator and the math isn't right..Says my top speed should be 20mph. Everything is stock. I want more torque with minimal loss of top speed.. Please help!!
Is the bike still running good without a gov. Enugu be still good?
Yes! It runs awesome . It’s been really durable so far