As unlikely as it seems, we don't know what good Brian did secretly, and it's not good for us to rejoice over death instead of someone changing for good. The ends don't justify the means, although I understand the feeling. I have a carechumen friend who really admires Luigi and I've been trying to convince to change mind... Anyway, Lord have mercy and grant rest to the reposted, Merry Christmas and I pray we may all commune the Precious Body and Blood of Christ and feel true joy and peace for all 🙏 ☦️
Sometimes it's hard not to feel a certain satisfaction at times like this. The important thing is whether the catechumen realizes that this is sinful, like Bojan here. I don't feel any joy or admiration for the murderer. But if someone close to me had died needlessly because of that insurance company, I don't know what I would feel now. I feel sorry for the killer. He seems proud of his actions...
@seronymus Knowing he used ai algorithms to deny insurance claims that covered life safing treatment that people paid for puts this CEO in my mind as a white collar murderer where it wasn't just enough to kill people but take their money too and have them suffer whereas an actual murderer like Luigi just got straight to the point and just went straight up murder.
He was about to testify against Nancy Pelosi, there’s that. Luigi’s grandfather often provided his radio station for Tom D’Alesandro’s political use, incidentally.
Since the beginning of this whole thing I’ve been extremely disappointed that people seem to be supporting such a murder. Lord have mercy on Luigi and the soul of Brian. Blessed Feast of the Incarnation
If nothing else, just remember the old Latin motto (and I think of South Carolina): "Dum Spiro Spero" = While I breathe, I hope. Even the worst CEO or criminal at any time can decide to change it all. We have to internalize that reality, not just like a sweet thought.
“Beloved, do not seek to avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay’ says the Lord” (Romans 12:19) I admit at first I was liking memes about the event, and I believe he should have been held accountable, but I agree that a human loss is always tragic- and celebrating and spitting on him after just seems lowly. We shouldn’t have the same disregard for a life as the insurance companies that we go after. That’s just my 2 cents to add. Merry Christmas Bojan!
St. Isaac the Syrian: "What is a merciful heart? It is a heart on fire for the whole of creation, for humanity, for the birds, for the animals, for demons, and for all that exists. By the recollection of them the eyes of a merciful person pour forth tears in abundance." I'm not there, but I've profited from this, and was thinking of this quote your entire video
i dont rejoice, but God forgive me, i can't help but see a sort of earthy logic in this. if more CEOs fear for their lives, they would not abuse their power so much. and I can't help but sympathize with Mr. Mangione. good on you on calling out the bias towards good looking criminals though
There's earthly long term logic against this too. When leaders feared for their lives we didn't have better leaders we had conquerors. Maybe for a generation things will get good but quickly this generation of CEOs will be replaced by those with large security convoys would would then continue doing the same shit.
It’s odd how high everyone’s health standards are when it seems like it hasn’t worked anywhere for over a generation. I think it SEEMED to be working in America during the 1950s. Something about that image of the ideal suburban childhood was instilled into the international zeitgeist during that time. But did it really exist even during that brief time or was it all propaganda? If it DID exist, how was it lost? How did medicine get it right at least once for ten years to never get it back?
He was objectively bad and righteous anger is a reality found in the Bible. Violence is still part of Christianity no matter how much you to try to skirt around it.
Luigi is of a famous family and worked in business. He could have used his blessings to fight against the companies through legal means and make lasting reform, instead of ending someone's life, of which this incident will be swept for the next headline soon enough. :( I pray for his change of heart.
@@seronymus I was thinking the same thing. He's quite well off, well educated, etc. It's quite possible that if he had chosen a different route he could really have made a difference in fixing the problems he and others can clearly see. Now he's just a headline, nothing will change
@@sathlasdalaraynidridlendar6875 he seriously could have even been a big time senator or governor of something, or a "good CEO" himself who brings down the house within. Or just a famous provocateur. If he gets a light sentence it's not 100% over but he had so many options really...
A warrior who lives by the sword and accepts it in turn has honour, in that way it might be unfair to compare evil met with vigilantism. But basically what comes around goes around. Don't be worthy of such a fate unless you can claim it cleanhearted.
Bojan, thanks for sharing! Personally, I feel no joy in the death, and I thank God for that!!, it is not my virtue, but I totally understand the emotion and I don't judge anyone for it. Personally, the whole thing filled me with deep sadness. Is murder really necessary to make a terrible injustice visible and widely discussed? Have we become so numb? The killer, by the way, pointed out his inspiration from Kaczynski (the Unabomber). I've read Kaczynski's Manifesto and other things and there were a lot of very fresh and interesting ideas and analysis in there, but I wonder: What value do they really have if they've entered the public sphere through serial murder? And that brings me back to the failing prophetic role of the Church. Priests should be shouting from the rooftops and pointing out things like injustice and environmental destruction, etc. And I should be doing that myself. I try a little, but I don't shout from the rooftops. We should try to fix it. I am glad that you are commenting on these topics! Just please try to pray for the bad guys beforehand too. The Marxist Plekhanov is largely correct in his analysis that the state of society creates types of personalities who hold power in it. The consideration of hypothetically traveling back in time and killing Hitler as a child would have had no effect, there were thousands of other "Hitlers" in the inventory to take on that role. In the end, people holding political and financial power make visible, amplify our own sins... That's why I feel particularly sorry for them. To be a Jew in Auschwitz was an unimaginably terrible fate, but to be Hitler was spiritually MUCH worse.
It is good Luigi got arrested but it's still a little off he can't claim insanity and be monitored and placed on bail considering recent history. I still feel the gun jamming was a act of God. The new release from Vice with a anonymous former employee tells a lot of the internal culture of these companies and how they groom their employees. It's a thin line though to not wish death on someone and you should be concerned if your brothers and sisters have a obsession over this topic. Zealotry can be a dangerous pitfall.
Christ is born! To deliver us all from sin, all of us. We can rejoice the fall of bad institutions, sin and fight against them but not the sinner. The righteous thing would be to use our mouth that is given by God to argue against the systems of oppression of the vulnerable not our fists or guns. In the spirit of St John Chrysostom, there are better ways to argue for righteousness.
Just FYI, my husband and I are in our mid-seventies with several health problems and we have had United Health Care for many years. We get great care. This murder was very misguided.
Boy aren’t you fortunate to have such good medical care despite paying for insurance from UHC. You must be in a very small select cadre whose access to medical attention is not intercepted by this thieving insurance company, who made some $20,000,000,000 on all you insurance policy holders just last year. The dead CEO was paid something like $25,000,000 last year as well for his successful efforts to deny care to 2/3 of policy holders, of whom you lucked out not to be part of. Thompson also implemented an AI algorithm that denies care misdiagnosing 90% of cases it sees. You must have been even luckier to avoid that daemon’s glance. May God protect your health in the coming year because I wouldn’t think luck with UHC can hold out much longer.
To the video creator and some commenters: 45,000 Americans die annually due to lack of health insurance. 200 million health insurance claims are denied in America every year. The health insurance companies and their lobbying and price gouging are responsible for both. Where are your videos and comments where you have come out and denounced this?
@@BanterWithBojan But the video was about "The Murder of Brian Thompson, the CEO". You only made a mini side comment about it tucked into a larger video condemning Luigi's actions. Big Insurance has been doing this for decades yet there were no such videos condemning it.
@@historia9275 That money comes from their customers and taxpayers. And they would pay for none of the treatments if they could. They only pay those out because they have to. Their business model is taking people's money then refusing to pay what they agreed to pay. Why do you think Big Health Insurance is so despised by American doctors and patients alike? Why have you made it your business to defend such bad actors?
Wisdom of Sirach 8:7 -“Do not rejoice when someone dies; remember, we are all to be gathered in.”
As unlikely as it seems, we don't know what good Brian did secretly, and it's not good for us to rejoice over death instead of someone changing for good. The ends don't justify the means, although I understand the feeling. I have a carechumen friend who really admires Luigi and I've been trying to convince to change mind... Anyway, Lord have mercy and grant rest to the reposted, Merry Christmas and I pray we may all commune the Precious Body and Blood of Christ and feel true joy and peace for all 🙏 ☦️
Sometimes it's hard not to feel a certain satisfaction at times like this. The important thing is whether the catechumen realizes that this is sinful, like Bojan here. I don't feel any joy or admiration for the murderer. But if someone close to me had died needlessly because of that insurance company, I don't know what I would feel now. I feel sorry for the killer. He seems proud of his actions...
@seronymus Knowing he used ai algorithms to deny insurance claims that covered life safing treatment that people paid for puts this CEO in my mind as a white collar murderer where it wasn't just enough to kill people but take their money too and have them suffer whereas an actual murderer like Luigi just got straight to the point and just went straight up murder.
He was about to testify against Nancy Pelosi, there’s that.
Luigi’s grandfather often provided his radio station for Tom D’Alesandro’s political use, incidentally.
@@jaroslavkyprianpolak
It should also be noted that WW1 was started by such a murder, something an educated Serb should be acutely aware of.
I think you can like luigi without liking what he did. Those two things aren't one in the same.
Since the beginning of this whole thing I’ve been extremely disappointed that people seem to be supporting such a murder. Lord have mercy on Luigi and the soul of Brian. Blessed Feast of the Incarnation
I wish I was a better Christian too. Schadenfreude is a terrible sin, and it is difficult to resist at times like these.
If nothing else, just remember the old Latin motto (and I think of South Carolina): "Dum Spiro Spero" = While I breathe, I hope. Even the worst CEO or criminal at any time can decide to change it all. We have to internalize that reality, not just like a sweet thought.
“Beloved, do not seek to avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay’ says the Lord” (Romans 12:19)
I admit at first I was liking memes about the event, and I believe he should have been held accountable, but I agree that a human loss is always tragic- and celebrating and spitting on him after just seems lowly. We shouldn’t have the same disregard for a life as the insurance companies that we go after.
That’s just my 2 cents to add. Merry Christmas Bojan!
Good insights. Glory to God!
St. Isaac the Syrian: "What is a merciful heart? It is a heart on fire for the whole of creation, for humanity, for the birds, for the animals, for demons, and for all that exists. By the recollection of them the eyes of a merciful person pour forth tears in abundance."
I'm not there, but I've profited from this, and was thinking of this quote your entire video
Merry Christmas from America, Bojan!
Thank you for your honesty. I too rejoiced at the news, but feel guilty about it. Been looking for ways to understand these feelings.
i dont rejoice, but God forgive me, i can't help but see a sort of earthy logic in this. if more CEOs fear for their lives, they would not abuse their power so much. and I can't help but sympathize with Mr. Mangione. good on you on calling out the bias towards good looking criminals though
There's earthly long term logic against this too. When leaders feared for their lives we didn't have better leaders we had conquerors.
Maybe for a generation things will get good but quickly this generation of CEOs will be replaced by those with large security convoys would would then continue doing the same shit.
Luigi and Bryan both need grace and forgiveness. They both did evil things and acted contrary to Christianity.
God used the wicked to destroy the wicked all the time.
It’s odd how high everyone’s health standards are when it seems like it hasn’t worked anywhere for over a generation.
I think it SEEMED to be working in America during the 1950s. Something about that image of the ideal suburban childhood was instilled into the international zeitgeist during that time. But did it really exist even during that brief time or was it all propaganda?
If it DID exist, how was it lost? How did medicine get it right at least once for ten years to never get it back?
He was objectively bad and righteous anger is a reality found in the Bible. Violence is still part of Christianity no matter how much you to try to skirt around it.
We must not do evil that good may come
He who lives by the sword dies by the sword.
Luigi is of a famous family and worked in business. He could have used his blessings to fight against the companies through legal means and make lasting reform, instead of ending someone's life, of which this incident will be swept for the next headline soon enough. :( I pray for his change of heart.
@@seronymus I was thinking the same thing. He's quite well off, well educated, etc. It's quite possible that if he had chosen a different route he could really have made a difference in fixing the problems he and others can clearly see. Now he's just a headline, nothing will change
@@sathlasdalaraynidridlendar6875 he seriously could have even been a big time senator or governor of something, or a "good CEO" himself who brings down the house within. Or just a famous provocateur. If he gets a light sentence it's not 100% over but he had so many options really...
True but then is it really bad to die? Or even simply to die by there sword what is wrong?
A warrior who lives by the sword and accepts it in turn has honour, in that way it might be unfair to compare evil met with vigilantism. But basically what comes around goes around. Don't be worthy of such a fate unless you can claim it cleanhearted.
Bojan, thanks for sharing! Personally, I feel no joy in the death, and I thank God for that!!, it is not my virtue, but I totally understand the emotion and I don't judge anyone for it. Personally, the whole thing filled me with deep sadness. Is murder really necessary to make a terrible injustice visible and widely discussed? Have we become so numb? The killer, by the way, pointed out his inspiration from Kaczynski (the Unabomber). I've read Kaczynski's Manifesto and other things and there were a lot of very fresh and interesting ideas and analysis in there, but I wonder: What value do they really have if they've entered the public sphere through serial murder? And that brings me back to the failing prophetic role of the Church. Priests should be shouting from the rooftops and pointing out things like injustice and environmental destruction, etc. And I should be doing that myself. I try a little, but I don't shout from the rooftops. We should try to fix it. I am glad that you are commenting on these topics! Just please try to pray for the bad guys beforehand too. The Marxist Plekhanov is largely correct in his analysis that the state of society creates types of personalities who hold power in it. The consideration of hypothetically traveling back in time and killing Hitler as a child would have had no effect, there were thousands of other "Hitlers" in the inventory to take on that role. In the end, people holding political and financial power make visible, amplify our own sins... That's why I feel particularly sorry for them. To be a Jew in Auschwitz was an unimaginably terrible fate, but to be Hitler was spiritually MUCH worse.
You see brother... These Health insurance CEOs make Polpot look like a saint
All these pious opinions here, like praying for Putin’s salvation.
@@claesvanoldenphatt9972 I wonder if you're an American. Because you would know many millions have died for these evil people's quarterly earnings
I had United Healthcare and it was actually pretty good back then. Things definitely got worse under"Obamacare."
Ask yourself how the people responded when David killed Goliath?
It is good Luigi got arrested but it's still a little off he can't claim insanity and be monitored and placed on bail considering recent history. I still feel the gun jamming was a act of God. The new release from Vice with a anonymous former employee tells a lot of the internal culture of these companies and how they groom their employees. It's a thin line though to not wish death on someone and you should be concerned if your brothers and sisters have a obsession over this topic. Zealotry can be a dangerous pitfall.
Christ is born! To deliver us all from sin, all of us. We can rejoice the fall of bad institutions, sin and fight against them but not the sinner. The righteous thing would be to use our mouth that is given by God to argue against the systems of oppression of the vulnerable not our fists or guns. In the spirit of St John Chrysostom, there are better ways to argue for righteousness.
Just FYI, my husband and I are in our mid-seventies with several health problems and we have had United Health Care for many years. We get great care. This murder was very misguided.
The murder was misguided, but your level of care has no bearing on the level of care received by millions of others.
Boy aren’t you fortunate to have such good medical care despite paying for insurance from UHC. You must be in a very small select cadre whose access to medical attention is not intercepted by this thieving insurance company, who made some $20,000,000,000 on all you insurance policy holders just last year. The dead CEO was paid something like $25,000,000 last year as well for his successful efforts to deny care to 2/3 of policy holders, of whom you lucked out not to be part of. Thompson also implemented an AI algorithm that denies care misdiagnosing 90% of cases it sees. You must have been even luckier to avoid that daemon’s glance. May God protect your health in the coming year because I wouldn’t think luck with UHC can hold out much longer.
@@billbadson7598 My only point was that I receive excellent care through United Health Care. It is one of the good companies out there.
This is literally a survivorship bias. Those who was denied are already on the cemetery or live under the bridge after a medical bankruptcy.
@@АртёмДемин-э8ы lack of empathy paraded as ethicality. The kind of people who go to their priest and say, “I have nothing to confess.”
To the video creator and some commenters:
45,000 Americans die annually due to lack of health insurance. 200 million health insurance claims are denied in America every year.
The health insurance companies and their lobbying and price gouging are responsible for both.
Where are your videos and comments where you have come out and denounced this?
And millions of lives are saved by these same health insurance companies covering the costs of their treatment.
I did denounce it. I did not portray it as anything remotely good.
@@BanterWithBojan But the video was about "The Murder of Brian Thompson, the CEO". You only made a mini side comment about it tucked into a larger video condemning Luigi's actions. Big Insurance has been doing this for decades yet there were no such videos condemning it.
@@historia9275 That money comes from their customers and taxpayers. And they would pay for none of the treatments if they could. They only pay those out because they have to.
Their business model is taking people's money then refusing to pay what they agreed to pay.
Why do you think Big Health Insurance is so despised by American doctors and patients alike?
Why have you made it your business to defend such bad actors?
What sin did the CEO commit?
What sins do you commit?
@@xperez6590 I don't understand the question. I'm not the one being judged.
Don't be coy, your judgement is nigh. May God be merciful to us even as we ourselves are merciful to others.
Apart from driving under influence, insider trading fraud, introducing an IA system for auto-denial vital health insurance claims? I don't know.
Allowing people to die or suffer so his company could profit
Luigi: THATS RIGHT GET SNO SCOPED! GET NO SCOOOOOOOPPPPPPEEED!!!
So immature
@Chance_Rice I'm a key without a drone. A heart without a home. By hope will never die.... MY HOPE WILL NEVER DIE!!!