Sportster Guy Rides an Indian Scout for the FIRST TIME!!
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2021
- We take a ride out to Bryn Mawr to meet up with Corey and take a look at his garage of bikes. He has a a great story of how we got into motorcycles and his how we started buying and selling bikes. We'll take a look at the current bikes he has and I will hop on his 2015 Indian Scout.
I will give my thoughts on the Indian Scout and some of my thoughts on how it compares to my Iron 1200.
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exactly what I was looking for, a man who is a Harley guy who loves his sportster and gives an honest opinion of the Indian.
The Scout impressed me far beyond my expectations. It's so smooth, and when you wanna get some it's all there. Really fun bike.
I love my Harley. But just some advice, never get on an Indian. It’ll mess you up. You’ll be second guessing your Harley choice forever.
Definitely very fun. A much different experience.
This might be the best comment in regards to harley vs Indian lol I did that, and dream often about adding an Indian to the stable
Lol. Traded in my Springfield for a road king and never looked back. Too much plastic on the Indian and had engine issues since new.
Don't be disturbing the HD cult. Let them be comfortable in their 9,999 reasons to have their Harleys.
Gonna be interesting when the Sportster (not the S) overhaul arrives.
Better, faster, more reliable and a nice ride. Can be a little bumpy at times though. Gotta love that driveway. In one end and out the other. Perfect!!!!!!
I always see the same reaction from Harley riders trying out an Indian for the first time... It's like they've been seeing in monochrome their whole lives and suddenly realize what color is...lol
The honesty is appreciated.
Love your honesty. Awesome vid!
Thank you for this video. Honest opinion on the Indian but still loves the looks of his Harley. Same here.
Right on 🤙🤙🤙
Me personally I love the ride,differences of both. Both are enjoyable. To me that is what makes motorcycles, motorcycling enjoyable as well as the interaction of most people.
Love to try them all.
Exactly,
and for me 1 isn't enough,
In fact four isn't enough,
Maybe 10... but even that probably won't satisfy my never resting desire!
Great video man. I'm really paying attention to the Indian lineup. I'm probably going to buy a second bike early next year and Indian is a great possibility. Well done!
Yo thanks man! Scout would be a great addition.
I love my Indian Scout, 75-80 on the highway in AZ and it still feels like your holding her back. That pony wants to giddy up!
Sure does
Just bought my first bike and grabbed a Scout Bobber Sixty, love it so far. Go Birds!
I just bought a 100th Anniversary Scout to go with my 2014 Vintage. Yeah that little Scout really gets up and goes!
Sure does 🤘
I really like the Indian scout just from what I've seen on UA-cam and with your input
I saw the word “jawn” and I was like “ is this guy from Philly? “ Happy to see Philly be repped
Heck yeah man! 🤟
Wow good lineup of bikes. I would flip out and have to ride them all. Awesome just awesome.
Heck yeah.
I am going to test ride a Scout Bobber in the near future. It's from a old neighbor. Can't wait after watching this.
You'll enjoy it
Hey man! I have the same exact bike for 2years now,only difference is I have saddle bags on mine. cheers!!!
That's awesome!
His bobber scout is so damn nice. I’ve always wanted to ride one.
A real beaut. Loud as heck.
@@TheMotoJawn freedom performance is super loud
I’ll give yah something to ride on! Hahahahaha! 🍆
What's up Corey glad you doing your thing 🏍️ you guys rock 🏍️ 🤟😎💯
Thanks Rodney! Was great riding with ya and your Sportster!
So the real question is, what color scout are you getting? lol
Probably something matte black lol.
@@TheMotoJawn the blue slate smoke is pretty sweet
@@chadbrownlow8770 just picked up the blue slate bobber 60. What a bike! You won't regret it.
@@frosty1005 I've heard some people say that the front signal lights wobble around, not fastened well enough. What's your opinion? Also, do you think the rear springs are okay from factory or do you think you need to upgrade to progressives? Just asking because I'm thinking about buying one and I want to know in advance what to expect.
@@bill392 definitely need to upgrade the rear shocks and the seat. I've had no problem with the lights at all though.
Clicked because Bryn Mawr is near where I live, except that's Bryn Mawr in Wales UK! Nevermind, good video. In Wales we'd pronounce 'Mawr' to rhyme with 'hour'. It means Big Hill in Welsh BTW
Thanks for taking a look!
Moto jawn from Jersey to dragon tail Tennessee 1600 miles sportster ride ..it was insane trying to keep up with the big bikes but I did it!!! Rode the tail an survived ..sportsters is were its at man!!
Sounds like a blast. I want to do that.
Great vid!
I've got the same Scout Bobber Twenty. I will love it until the day I die!!
Bro I'm a Sportster guy like you. Thankfully I'm not a performance guy. It amazes me how much less HP the Harley 1200 has than the Indian 1200. I love my Sporty & as long as it's running good I'm good. But Harley definitely needs to step up their game.
Haha thats a good way to put it. Luckily not a performance guy. I say that until I ride other bikes lol.
That's because the Indian is a Modern overhead cam engine with liquid cooling.. The New Revolution or whatever HD calls their New Liwuid cooled engine is 1250 CC and supposed to be 150 HP .. Variable valve timming and Hydraulic lifters that rarely need valve adjustments..
@@mikeskidmore6754 that's the engine on the new Pan America, right? It's got 150 BHP and looks like a harley engine *not* from 1975 for once. 😂
@@stiggles98 and in the Sportster S, and making it's way into the Sportster (not S) redesign sometime next year.
@@mikeskidmore6754 where HD fell short was, A; they lowered the HP on the Sportster S by roughly 25 and
B; they were thinking Indians comparable bike was the lowly(joking) scout when they should have aimed themselves at the FTR1200 which is a beast mode bike that HD has no answer for.
I have the exact same Scout Bobber 20 that your buddy is riding with a Vance and Hines. It's the best around town bike I could imagine. I'll be adding a Cheif for comfort on longer rides eventually.
Yeah its a beast. I'd like to try a cheif.
The scout bobber is just a dead sexy bike. Loads of HP to boot. I personally like the lower drag style handle bars but to each his own
That looked familiar.😄 Scout was a quick bike, I miss mine just a little bit, but love the Tiger.
Definitely quick and fun
Awesome! I’ve been looking at the scout for my first bike.
Nice! Ride safe and go for it.
Picked a Scout Bobber up in june as my first bike, it's an absolute blast. Just need to go easy with your right wrist
I had my heart set on a Harley 48. I had the cash set aside for it, but couldn't find any in stock, so I waited. Then one day driving home from work, I stopped at the Indian dealership and sat on a Scout. It felt as though it was made for me. It was in the fall so I decided to wait until spring to get a new bike. I finally got a chance to ride a Scout, that next spring, and was hooked. I found one a couple of hundred miles away, used, with under 600 miles on it. Got a great deal on it, and have never second guessed my decision. I'm in the middle of my 3rd riding season on it.
So glad that I stopped at that dealership before I bought the Harley. Still like the looks of that Sportster, just not nearly as much as my Scout.
Can't go wrong either way. As long as you ridin.
@@TheMotoJawn Absolutely!!
Right? I have a 2014 Vintage. I traded in my 2016 Honda Shadow 750 for it. Broke my heart because I loved that peppy mid size bike. But I fell in love with the big ass Vintage right away. A year later I was thinking "I'd really like a mid size bike to compliment this big honking cruiser". Went to Wagner Motorsports in Worcester Mass and inquired about Scouts. They had a 100th Anniversary in stock, brand new. I asked Don "excellent and very smart " salesman about numbers.. long story short.. now I have a Vintage and a Scout and love them both!
Anyone that has been on one will know what I’m talking about. The scout is a special little bike. That thing is fun!
I'm planning to get the Bobber 60 to start, it's 74 horse and 60 cu in. vs the 104 hp 69 cu in. standard bobber. the best part is I learned the 60 has the same engine and when I'm ready to upgrade the power they make a big bore kit that puts it at 1300 cc 139 horse, combined with other upgrades I've seen these bikes topping 160 horse and that's just nuts. I'll be happy with the 74 horse for a long time I'm sure.
I will pass on anything with Forward Controls. I do like the Indian FTR-1200 However.
@@mikeskidmore6754 you can move the controls to mid controls easily they have a kit for it you can do it after market or the dealer will do it before delivery if you insist on having them. 😆
@@aaronlayes4485 The Bike has no Lean Angle .. I will just stick with what I have now ..
@@mikeskidmore6754 it has a fantastic lean angle if you get different exhaust and then adjust the controls. My guess is you just don't like the bike and that's fine but the complaints you have can be fixed without issue. If you want a super lean angle don't ride cruisers to start with not many have a "good" lean angle. I mean look at the fat tire style that has come to these bikes like many cruisers. It's not for everyone for sure. Though how much this bike can be changed to fit riders it's not impossible for anyone to make it their own. Short pegs, an exhaust change and you have a pretty steep lean angle. For me the first things to be changed are the low slung exhaust and the pegs having some lean but plan to make it my own over time that's where the fun is I guess for guys like me. I like the mod ability
Interesting choice in the video, I've owned two different Vulcan S' and the same Scout twice now, I traded it in the first time for my 2nd Vulcan but found it back for sale at my dealer so bought it back.
Own a Scout! Great fun motorcycle!
A fun ride.
Great video sir..
I'm on the West Coast of Scotland..
I have the Truimph Speedmaster and Bobber.. I'm considering changing the Bobber and getting a Indian. 👍
That's awesome 👍🤟💯🏍
ahh the one that got away... Scout is my second fav bike next to my sporty. It is ranked second because I haven't had the chance to ride one yet lol
Just wait til you do!
The problem with a Sportster is that it has the constant stigma of being a girls bike. I have a Sportster and it’s my 3rd one. Sportsters get a lot of flack but it’s a great bike. I looked at the Indian Scout Sixty last week and although I didn’t ride it I immediately fell in love with the seating position and the looks of it.
I'm not into cruises too much but I do like the scout 😍
Yea. Ive never ridden motorcycles before, but fell in love with the look of the street glide special with the steetched bags. Those are too expensive for me right now. After the new 2025 Indian Scout lineup was revealed....i believe i will get one in all black. bobber or Sport trim....
Tell ya what wish I invest in the wind screen would made heck of a diffrence the bugs at night the wind burn the ear popping from moutian height
I like the look of the Scout much more than the Sportster.
I had a 16 Scout 60. Put over 13,000 miles on it in 2 years. Decided maybe a bit bigger bike due to the longer rides. BIG mistake. Got a 17 HD Lowrider with less then 4,0000 on it. After 2 years, 2,000 miles and numerous trips to the shop. Traded it off for a 16 Scout with less then 1,0000 miles added 500 miles since I bought itlast week. After 3 sportsters and 3 big bikes. I will never buy another Harley
that cams and liquid cooling gave the scout a lil bit of punch
So after you riding the scout, I was thinking for my first bike to be a Scout rogue sixty 999cc I think, I believe you're on the larger size 1100 in the video? Would the sixty be too much for a beginner?
No i don't think it would be too much. It would be fine to learn on and grow in to a little bit.
You should have tried the one with an intake, pipe and fuel tune. Way more power.
Yeah that things a beast
Just found your site. Great video, thanks. Question for you, do you happen to know what after market exhaust Corey put on the Indian Bobber? Sounds great. Cheers.
I believe that is the freedom performance combat 2 to 1
Did he sell it yet? I am looking at the 2021 but they may never get it delivered. I could be intrested it that one.
Yeah I think he sold it.
As far as Vtwins go, take a buzz on a KTM 1290 Super Duke R. Horsepower, torque, and light weight. You can have your cake and eat it too. It'll mess up your paradigm of what horsepower is.
lol can see the guys grow light in the window
😂 Good eye, even though PA is a Medical Marijuana state, unfortunately those were just regular house plants 🪴
@@TurtlesTwoWheelers ah yeah I'm in pa too. Whatcha got some tomatoes?
@@patrickmarrone8565 Had a couple Pachira Aquatica AKA “Money Trees”, and tons Spider Plants. Thought some purple lights would help em grow, but honestly just regular sunlight is the best bet from my experience 😁
Looks like his bobber is set up like the Rogue,mini-apes and different seat.
I’m trying to decide what my first bike should be... leaning towards the 1200 sportster because of price, aesthetic, and how easy to ride it seems. I’m thinking that a low rider S or an Indian scout may be better for longer rides/more comfortable. Any advice?!
Any could be a good beginner bike. But personally I would get something cheap to start in case I crashed it lol.
Get a softail standard
Look at The Chief if you are wanting longer rides. Its what the Harley Dyna should have been the lowrider S can't touch it.
@@WarPaintCustom I just bought a super chief and I can corroborate your statement as true, it’ll pull your arms off!
Cory what size Handel bar you have on Indian scout bobber
I believe those are the factory 10 inch Mini Apes
Nice video enjoyed myself thinking about downsizing I want Indian not bobber to each his own
I’m upgrading to a scout bobber. Waiting on my bike. Coming from a sportser
Nice! Ride safe out there!
I managed to convince the wife to let me get the scout bobber 20 and keep my road king custom. Dont know if im more excited about having a new bike or 2 bikes
Now that makes me jealous
@@TheMotoJawn the trick is to make her think it was her idea to keep em haha
@@darthjunkus1088 😂😂😂
was just wondering, how would it compare to the new 2021 HD Sportster S.
It will be interesting to see
I own a Sportster S and have owned scout bobber I sold.Loved the scout nothing bad to say but the new Sportster S is a rocketship! I am no brand loyal in fact own a Indian Challenger. The new Sportster is as advertised so quick also more tech.Times are changing even for HD and some of us are glad for it
Hey, can you tell me where Bryn Mawr is? It's a Welsh name (I speak the language) and wondering what the history behind it is. Great video btw
Yooo thank you. It's near philadelphia
I have the great great great great great grandad of that bike, a 2001 Victory 92SC, I rode a Harley something or other as a comparison, there was no comparison, the Victory it was, the morning after I collected it from the dealer, that's when my problems with it started. I would explain them to you, but the universe will end before I've finished.
I've had 1200 Sporties. Found an '18 Iron 1200 for $6750 w/ 1000 miles. Not sure if I should get that, or a Scout 60, which I hear is MUCH better than the 1200s.
The scout engine will definitely perform better if that's what your looking for
@@TheMotoJawn After watching vids of air filter/spark plug replacement on the Scout, I'll just stick to Sportsters. It ain't worth all THAT to me.
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I love your Iron and I’m a Indian guy!🤯🔫🃏
Thanks man! 👍
The Indian is a lot more fun to ride if you like having a little power
True 💯
Awesome Video brotha! Appreciate the honest reviews on my lineup. My philosophy: Educate Yourself, Invest, Work Hard, and what you put in is what you’ll get in return 💪. “No such thing as a strong person with an easy past”
I owe a huge thanks to you for inspiring me to get on UA-cam. First time riding an Indian Scout = Mind Blown 🤯⚡️🥳!
I highly recommend everyone experience their full glory. Ride Safe Always!
- Turtles Two Wheelers 🏍🐢
Right on dude! Glad I got to take her for a scoot before she left the line up.
I had HD Iron and 48, but when I try scout bobber I just couldn't go back, ever, on HD
my issue with both bikes is low seat height very little rear suspension travel and cramped legs.Low Low is an American thing but terrible for riding scraping pegs back getting jolts on bumps etc.Why I like standard bikes.If I want a cruiser I'll get Valkyrie flat 6 legs under relaxed.
You should have tried that 1200 low as well. It would have been better competition for the Indian over yours.
You have to test the newer models ;)
The 15 model had a few flaws.
Put a new exhaust on a newer model and ur good to go.
How different is the Scout 60? I'm ignorant of Indian.
I wana bike fr now
You can't compare your air cooled Sportster to a water cooled engine. The new Sportster replacement will be water cooled. Just wait and see.
Forward controls work best outside of an urban area. Wouldn't want them for Philly riding where it's stop and go. I like the forwards on my Street Bob in Philly.
Love mids for the city
Did ya buy the scout ??????
Wish I could afford another bike! Absolute blast to ride!
Hey let's ride!
I have to say both marques make really handsome bikes but the lack of lean angle available on either is what will always put me off them. Purely from a safety point of view. I live and ride in Yorkshire where there are almost no straight country roads (apart from the Roman roads, of course). I test rode a Fatbob a few years ago and loved it right up until I entered the first roundabout, pegs dragged on both sides. Now that would be dangerous on the roads where I live. Beautiful bikes though.
Yeah the fat bob will definitely scrape.
He has seen the light
When I heard that Scout had 1200 miles and needed $1000 in repairs and the pipes were burnt blue, I thought wtf? Seriously? I bought my Sportster 1200C new in '09 and it has been 100% reliable and never needed any repairs at all. I just get regular oil changes, replace the battery every 4 years, that's it. The pipes, and the entire bike, are still looking brand new. I know that there are more powerful bikes but I really don't care. This year I considered trading up to a Fat Boy 114 with the M8 engine because I wanted the softtail suspension, 6'th gear, and ABS. The extra power doesn't hurt but I'm not sure I want another 100 lbs of weight. The price of that bike is way too high for what it is, but it is a nice bike, can't argue that. But due to the high MSRP and dealer markup on top of it, I decided to look at other brands. I am convinced that I would really like the Indian Scout, Bobber or standard, can't decide. It's light weight like a Sportster but a better performer. However, the Scout still has poor suspension (mushy in front, to short stroke in back) and the price of accessories is crazy high. Scouts do have some issues, lots of vids about those problems, and I don't need those problems. The new Sportster S isn't even a Sportster IMHO, just in name only, and although it might be a cool bike, it's just not for me. All said and done, I might settle for a new HD Softtail Standard (too bad it's only available in black), or just count my blessings and keep the '09 Sportster until I die.
For what it's worth. My 19 scout bobber has been extremely reliable. Just passed the 3 years of ownership mark. I've only done maintenance and tires(and one set of feeler pegs because i ride it like i stole it and love corners on this little angry beast). I love my bike and couldn't fathom trading it in. I ride year round except when theres snow/ice on the road. I don't think you'll be disappointed with a scout.
I know looks are opinions but the Scput ot preforms on the pavement and looks.
1,200 miles and fuel injectors replaced on the Scout? WTF? 😟
It's from 2015 and done only 1200... So the previous owner might have just stashed in his garage for God knows how long so no need to be surprised.. I'm surprised it didn't have any rust issues .
The frame is aluminum so for the most part..no rust concerns other than the tins and hardware
Its like Blippi is actually a biker lol
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Harley or Indian for first bike and something to grow into and use for a long time
Go with whatever feels best for ya
The only People who don't know how bad Harley Davidsons are .. are people who have never ridden other brands..
Don't you get tired of being a full time hater?
@@omarsalgado9715 Why are people so Clueless haw bad Harleys are with the exception of the Pan American ?
@@mikeskidmore6754 No, why are you such a hater? In every post that mentions H-D, you're there just like whining brat? Got nothing better to do?
that bikes is not very high from the ground, the america roads is must be very good, eh?
Don’t test ride an Indian Challenger! You’ll ride one home!
It's pretty cool the way you show everyone where he lives, even telling us the name of his street. I found the guy's front gate on Google maps in about 30 seconds. If I was a shady type looking to rob me some bikes, I would know where to go.
@@NFL1976 Heh. Why are you so angry?
Here’s how I’ll know if you’re from Philly what’s the best cheesesteak please
The Indian is a great bike, no doubt. Comparing it to a Sportster? Common, just about anything is better than a Sportster. You should be comparing the Sporster to a 1972 CB350 Honda maybe or a 250 Rebel.
So im a new scriber but was curious on a possible collaboration I’m a new rider in the beginning or my journey and have ideas for content of me on my journey if interested
Lovely Scout, but there is NO WAY IN HELL he's gaining 15-20hp from only the exhaust. A turbo vehicle only sees those gains via tuning and full exhaust, on a bigger motor. A 1200cc naturally aspirated V Twin gains MAYBE 10hp if you're lucky, and that is only if a tune is applied with it. If you drop in cams, tune and bolt ons, you might get those numbers out of it however. Maybe I missed something.
What qualifies me to say anything about it in the first place? I work at Indian. If you liked this, the 116ci Chief will BLOW YOUR MIND.
Actually it does with the tune from loyds garage, I got the scout 60 and pushed out an extra 20hp with intake, exhaust and tune. I think its partly because they are tuned down aswell from factory so it picks up some power that was already there just held back.
I own a 19 scout bobber. I rode a 116 super chief at demo days. Frankly I was disappointed with the 116. It did ride smoother but the performance was nothing to write home about. I'll keep my scout.
I have a victory octane with the same freedom exhaust, s&s intake, and a tune and it comes in at just shy of 100hp at the wheel. I'm gonna say now way that thing makes 120hp.
Wait...there are Sportster GUY'S??
I know right lol 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😁😁😆😆
Why is the US flag upside down on the 883? Thats a "signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property".
I was wondering about that as well. Not American, but the only people I've seen do that are people on the extreme left.
Previous owner did that with the flag, I had literally just bought the bike a couple days prior to this video.
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IMHO the Sportster is hands down the most pleasing to the eye. The Indians just look cheaply made to me. I have not ridden one but may try one this Spring here in PA. The only Polaris I've ever owned is my 2019 Ranger 1000 North Star Edition and it rocks.
I'm literally the opposite of you. I think the sportsters look cheaply made and the scouts look incredible. I guess thats why we all have opinions.
@@trevorshaw6123 for sure I have to admit the scouts are growing on me.
I prefer the Harley 😀
Had the Octane, great bike, handled well, Less forward in the controls, rolled on well and nice top end. Scout is cooler looking imo but not quite as talented. However if after a sportier ‘Sporty’ then go get a XR1200 with the High Comp EVO 👍 💪 P.S. Scouts don’t make 100hp stock and with a zaust and tune you might get 105hp on dyno. Octanes had higher redline, more compression, bore and cams. If just want to cruise and be cool, make good sounds and rip then 1200 Sporty gets it done 😎
Would like a look of a sporty with the engine of a scout
@@TheMotoJawn hammer performance can hook you up
10 minutes... Just 10 minutes! Imagine the fatboy ir the low riders guys!
Where's the beef?
Didn't get interesting until minute 8, geez
Your sportster hates you for talking smack about it on the demo ride. Tsk tsk, you know better!
Literally almost everything is faster than a sportster lol.
Nope he didn't. Just told the real.
Watching him come up to the jankiest house on the street, but then discover, wait that's the Carriage house. That's the oldest house on the street.
I rode one in Sturgis. The difference is the Sportster has power and torque down low, the scout is higher in the rev range. I was actually not impressed.
As a citizen that once spent three years of my young life (about your age) in service to my country and put my life on the line for the freedoms you very casually enjoy today, I am deeply offended at your display of the inverted American flag on the back of that HD. I could say shame on you, but you would probably laugh. It is my opinion that you might consider taking your personal freedoms a little more seriously. If you don't, they will certainly be taken away from you.
@MN Citizen
Thank you for your service brother 🙏❤️. At the time of this video I had actually just taken ownership of the HD only a couple days prior and had not yet removed anything off the bike from the previous owner. I apologize if this offends anyone, but the inverted flag is definitely Not my doing 🇺🇸❤️🫡.
8:15 .... That's not HP you're feeling that torque. I don't usually care if people make that mistake but if you're gonna review bikes... C'mon man.
The Scout felt sterile. Wasn't impressed with the finish. It was too smooth riding. Soulless. I'm sure the Scout is well engineered bike, I owned 2 Victorys, but an EVO 1200 Sportster puts a bigger smile on my face.
Vibration means nothing.
All was going well until 6:53 into the video. Corey's Harley 883 had the American flag upside down on the bike. I wouldn't have wasted my time with him and walked away. Then blocked his number and deleted his number from my phone.
Previous owner did that with the flag, I had literally just bought the bike a couple days prior to this video.
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