Indian Scout First Ride and Impression (Yammie FINALLY Likes a Cruiser!)
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Spite is a Busa Man, Yammie is shopping for half helmets and leather vests now. 2020 has done weird things to us all.
*Hayabusa man, please. Only 'Busa Boys use the short form.
Yammie just had some opinions a year or so ago because he just didn't know what the Hell he was talking about. Desert sled is an off road bike? LOL. Go try a real trail bike to see how those work. He has. Now it's cruisers. Go ride some and figure out why people would ride one? He seems to be doing that.
@@blessedbethecurse xDDDD nailed bro
@Judah Lennox Not many of us out here care. Simply because we’re not as insecure as you seem to be.
I think this bike and the new rebel 1100 that we are about to experience next year is going to change the cruiser demographic, effectively attracting younger riders to the scene.
I doubt it will bring a younger demographic because cruisers are mostly a lifestyle choice and if you love these types of bikes you'll automatically be interested in Harley's and Indian culture but 40 years olds in Europe will love the rebel 1100.
I def agree with you. The rebel 1100 gives a more modern look to the cruisers. Which I rode a cruiser but I had to turn it into a bobber bc IMO most cruisers look like outdated grandpa bikes. When I look at cruisers the only ones I really like are ones that have newer looking designs such as the rebel or Vulcan 650 s.
This and the Rebel 1100 are great. Not my thing yet (maybe five years time) but happy these bikes are being sold
100%
@@Fearless154 I can see how it won't waft in a new generation, though I do think it'll reduce the fall of interest for gen z. As a 21 year old I've found myself shifting lifestyles often when it comes to bikes. Went from sport bike to Grom to adv bike to dirt bike. Adventures take different forms. I'm looking forward to the rebel 1100 as my next bike. It makes cruising more athletic and youthful compared to the standard 6-700lb 50-60hp cruiser that has been the market staple
It took you a handful of years but you are finally starting to get it. There's more to motorcycles than stats
I've owned a bunch of bikes, in various configurations, but my Scout is my first "keeper." It still needs a lot of tweaking to make it mine, but what bike doesn't? The bike's bones are just about perfect, though. Absolutely wonderful.
I'm 6'3" and the "little" Indian fits like a glove. I'm tired of huge bikes.
Did it fit you stock or did you make some upgrades to make it feel more comfortable? I'm a quarter of an inch shy of 6'3" and having been contemplating the scout bobber.
First thing i did to my scout was fit stiffer front springs and upgraded the rear shocks. Made a huge handling difference I fitted an S&S air intake, a power commander 2 and that dramatically improved the bottom end torque. I now have 95,000k trouble free riding and it's still going strong.
95,000 miles? That's really impressive man! Did you have to do any major engine work yet? New timing chain?
@Davo Batty: Good sir, which brand front springs and rear shocks have you gotten? I’m looking to upgrade on my scout sixty.
My shocks and front springs are custom made by an Aussie as there wasn't many options back then. If I was doing it now I'd look at Ohlins.
@@Ritalie In Oz we measure distance in kilometers. The drive belt is original, I've changed plugs once. Oil and filters changed every 8,000k apart from those things the engine hasn't had a spanner on it.
How much were the parts in total?
I feel I've finally been vindicated...
I started on a '95 CBR F3, and bought a '99 'Busa in February of '00. I stopped riding after my first kid was born, and started back up a few years ago. My current baby is an '18 Scout. I've upgraded the rear suspension, swapped the seat, and swapped in a performance 2 to 1 exhaust. I also added a quick-detach windscreen for longer rides with the face shield up. My neighbor fabricated me a rider's seat back, and a saddle bag rack for me. On long trips, I carry an extra fuel can in my left bag.
I am 6'1", 355lbs (370 w/ gear). My 5'0", 10y/o, daughter rides with me on longer cruises, and she's currently adding another 110lbs (with gear), so when I'm bagging, and carrying full fuel, we're over 1,100lbs. I feel like she performs VERY well at that weight.
Personally, I see the Scout as the Cruiser for Sport riders. 🤷♂️
Bringing your daughter along is sweet. I remember riding pillion as a kid on my father's motorcycle. Happy memories that your daughter will look back on later in life.
FINALLY.....!!! The Indian Scout is the best mid-range cruiser out there. I own one. I did a Stage 1 upgrade, re-flashed the ECM and changed the engine management system. It is now about 118 hp, 90 ft/lbs torque. It is explosively fast. It is 150 mph capable, although not with me on it.
There's definitely a market for something with the comfort of a cruiser and the performance of a sport bike.
80s honda magna comes to mind
I was going to buy a Rebel 1100, I was completely sold… until I heard the sound that came from the Scout
Which did you end up getting
I used to own a R1, entering my 30's im so glad I bought the Scout back in 2017. Its comfortable enough, and with a experienced rider can do 0-60 in under 4 seconds. But the bike looks and feels absolutely quality👌
He said this isn’t my dads cruiser but my dad has a scout so it is my dads cruiser lol !!
Dad has great taste....💫
😄
Like so many people, he makes the "mistake" of riding the Scout, and has an epiphany.
Do we have another convert to the "Indian nation"?
Thinking so. Love my Scout 60.
I have a wide glide and riding my buddies scout I feel like I'm on a comfortable dirt bike. So much low end power and so comfortable to sit on
I mean.. other than the scout, ftr and challenger, the other models are pretty disappointing tbh
@@sivvinod3187 Indian/polaris Had to start with the Thunderstroke series to please the Heritage crowd before they moved on to more modern types.
From the various statements - Indians are ride bikes we hike Harleys are wrench bikes.
It sure is cool to see Daddy Yammie come around to the cruiser life! Every man will eventually come to appreciate the value of cruising! 🏍❤️
Never thought I’d see the day you’d like a cruiser 😅 love the content! Keep up the great work!
As a Scout owner for nearly 5 years may I interject a few improvements to what appears to be a '16 model. 1) the Kenda tires are only good for city riding as they completely suck for cruising BUT, the now stock, Pirelli Night Dragons really wake up the handling. 2) progressive fork springs, OEM on newer models, make a tremendous improvement as well. The only negative I've encountered is in the Owners Group about breaking clutch cables by those who DON'T do basic maintenance. I've ridden over 26K miles without any fraying or issue. Good informative video and the more you ride the Scout, the more you'll love it (once you swap out the tires and fork springs).
yammie falling in love with the scout
I'm convinced this series about the Scout is 100% sarcastic and I don't appreciate this deception.
That bike is pure Americana... it may not do things the best, but it sure looks the best doing it.
Just bought a Victory Octane for my first bike and I really love it
I loved my Octane. It is such an overlooked power cruiser. I wish Victory was still around so they could build upon that platform.
I have a scout and it is AWESOME and super fun for sure! Nice review!
The Scout can still reach 120mph in fourth gear. ;)
I know I’m biased but the octane never stood a chance. If I remember correctly the bike had maybe one year under its belt before Polaris axed the company all together( of that, I only had mine 4 months before I got the news). Would be awesome if Indian brought the octane back as a special edition run.
The Scout is a heritage bike that isnt limited by "heritage" much like the Toyota FJ Cruiser was a tribute to the original FJ40 it has no real Heritage other than the name. Both are New things Cosplaying as heritage but really not limited by that heritage.
Oh so that's why I love those two vehicles lol
@@Osmani4you me too brother
Okay that thing sounds amazing! It sounds like a Ducati, V-Rod, Harley, TL1000, VFR800. I've always hated v-twins, because of their horrendous vibration. But the sound of this thing is so amazing, I'm starting to consider owning one.
When he said there's no vibration on the Scout, he wasn't exaggerating at all. Mine runs smooth as butter. I normally wouldn't set my helmet down on the seat of a bike when it's idling, but I sit mine on the seat all the time and I am not worried about it at all.
That bike sounds FANTASTIC!
Just picked up the scout 60 as my first bike this week. So far its been incredible and the price makes it better maybe ill upgrade soon
So.. you had it for a week and already want to upgrade..? Yikes. 😂
Excellent review! Very informative, and you've proved what I've always suspected: that HD takes the piss, 'selling yesterdays techology for tomorrow's prices' to gullible people who fail to see that the emperor has no clothes...
It's 11:15 pm here man your not letting me sleep
Finding interesting uploads at night is like reading the old newspapers you put down on floor when decorating.
Yeah, UA-caming can be a journey, one after another.
I think you should try out a Suzuki boss . I think they’re supposed to be a very underrated cruiser.
M109R is what we get here, 1783cc
Hey folks. Everyone is labeling the Scout as a good starter bike (particularly the Scout 60). But, these are the best things for us who have been at this since the early 70s. I started on two stroke Yamaha twins (68 180cc then a new 74 350 RD 350cc) and had a lot of fun. I then moved to a Yamaha 750 Special triple, 4-stroke Hondas (450 scrambler, 500 Twin, 81 GL1100, 88 GL1500) and I'm now old and tired and want to have the fun of the early 2-stroke twins (without the blue smoke and fouled spark plugs.) The Scout is perfect! Low to the ground (I'm 5'5" on a good day.) It has the rush of power if you keep it in the happy gears, and handles like a 2-stroke twin (compared to a 1500 Goldwing.) This is some fun S&!t!!!!!.
This will be my second bike but in Icon Teal and White!
The Victory Octane was a better version of the Scout. The Octane was the best “sporty cruiser” I have ridden. Such a shame that Polaris killed the Victory line. I wish that you could have tested one of them. I think Spite would love that bike!
they still exist
Please, please, please put the big bore kit in the Scout! I’d really like to see what’s involved and how much gain one would get.
I would like to see you test ride a Rocket 3, m109, yamaha raider, bikes like that. Best of all worlds. I have a cruiser, sport tourer in the garage now I need a dirt machine of some flavor.
If you like the scout you would’ve loved the victory octane
No doubt. Best cruiser I have owned/ridden.
Indian needs to make a bigger version with PP 108 for taller folks.
The Springfield Darkhorse is kinda like a bigger version of this
If you love this the Meanstreak and Boulevard are up your alley.
yup sportster rider here, Scout is a better bike vs sportster line but VRod or Fat Bob from Harley is comparable and beats the Scout.
I'm not a cruiser guy, so I'm open to that argument because I don't really know... but I'd like to see the actual case for that. What makes the VRod or Fat Bob better? How do their engines and suspension compare?
For the price of a vrod or fat bob, you can do a lot to the indian. If you need to add another 8-10k to make a comparable arguement, there is no arguement to be made.
@@blessedbethecurse Well to start - both VRod and Fat Bobs are considered "performance cruisers" and older or traditional Harley riders who only stick to Heritage classics hate em for their looks and modern fit-ups; but for me they both look sexy as hell.
VRod - liq cooled engine 1131-1247CC (comparable to scout); wide as hell rear wheels; 111Nm @ 7250rpm (runs better at higher Rpm); 3.5s to 60mph!!; 11.4s to 1/4 mile; same taco fold riding position; better angle of rear suspension to absorb the shock; BUT discontinued because it wasn't popular because it was launched ahead of its time of need for Harley. The prices for the VRod on used market is beginning to rise due to its recent recognition for performance.
Fat Bob - 1745cc (much bigger engine but air cooled); max torque 145 Nm @ 3250; 4.2s to 60mph (slower at acceleration than vrod or scout); 13.1s to 1/4 mile; 6 speed; much better handling on corners; and still being sold by Harley.
Scout: 1133cc liq cooled; max torque 97.7Nm @ 6000rpm; 3.7s to 60mph; 12.2s to 1/4 mile; will continue to be made
so overall by spec standards its Vrod, Scout, then fat bob but for any bikes, its not about just the specs. Look and feel plays a big role and its very subjective and I am more fan of Vrod and Fatbob. Both Harley's are more expensive than the Scout when purchased new but in used market they seem similarly priced.
@@Coletrainbaby true if you bought em new but in the used market they are similarly priced (at least where I am). There is definitely a branding sticker price but that argument can be made for any products like cars (american/japanese cars $-$$!vs european cars $$$-$$$$)
@@KSMotoCafe Thanks for the thoughtful answer!! Again, none of these bikes are really in my wheelhouse, but I do think the Fat Bob looks pretty cool. I don't like the aesthetic of the VRod. I think if HD made a Fat Bob style bike with a more modern engine like the VRod, that might be pretty appealing.
How do you compare it to the triumph bobber? Or speedmaster?
This is my beginner bike and a wholly disagree that is it not a good beginner bike. It felt no heavier than the Rebel and frankly has much better ergos. The beefier engine is surprisingly docile at low RPMs but beastly when you want it to be at the high RPM range. Only downside is it costs more. Great first bike!
Noob here with a ‘20 Scout and I heartily agree. It’s like she was built to fit me. Cuts me all sorts of slack on the low end but scoots out of the way of 18 wheels on the highway without even breaking a sweat. She LOVES to run. But I’m not a young kid with an ego jerking on my throttle hand either. It’s ME looking after me, not my engine displacement.
bought my 2016 new, and is the most fun bike to ride , once you realize the engine is waay better than the chassis !.Indian got it as good as it needs to be now. the most fun you can have at legal speeds, then you twist the throttle more and you've just blown away a V Rod at the traffic lights! thanks for the review .
Thanks for video enjoyed thinking about new scout myself love under the horsepower belt drive water cool my biggest problem for a cruiser 100 plus miles is not very far hard to find anyone to ride with you
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The Scout has a lot in common with the Triumph Bobber. Similar displacement, similar rake and wheelbase. Ride-by-wire throttle, 6 speed box, liquid cooling, flat bars. More HP but less low-down torque. They even sell for about the same over here in the UK.
One important difference though...
The scout looks nice, but the triumph bobber looks about twice as good ;)
I have been lucky enough to ride it as my 2nd Bike ever when I was new to it
@@nilswinkelmann9640 Probably why I bought a Bobber - plus there are more used examples around here.
I'm primarily a superspot/naked fan but that right there is a spicy meatball 🍝🍝
Meatball Mmmm
Really love this bike but sadly cannot get it because of LAMS restrictions... I have a street triple though and that's not a problem at all :)
Any chance we could see Victory return? I think that Polaris (which owns Indian) still owns the Victory brand.
They discounted the Victory brand once they bought Indain. There is no point of having two brands under the name.
I just moved from a Honda Shadow VT1100 to a 2018 Scout. The scout is lower, lighter, more responsive, easier to ride and much quicker. Stock exhaust is nothing to brag about but I'll upgrade that later. I love riding it.
I have a '97 ace 1100, 10 moths of owning the scout would you still stick with it? I am considering also making the switch.
Once Indian makes a true Softail competitor, they will have my money.
The new redesigned Chief is out!!!!
The best looking cruiser money can buy. All while having enough available power to satisfy even the most skilled riders for a low price. The Scout Sixty is still no slouch. Looks the same and can be had for under $9000 new
Very well done video. The footage, and choice of roads was very good, as was your commentary. The only point of contention I have is how much you would have to spend on it, right after purchase. First of all the headlight has to go. It is horrible. Next (and you mentioned) the front end suspension would be on the list. Many have mentioned the grips and mirrors. While these aren't deal killing expenditures, they should be made. Keep up the great work Yammie.
The bike to come pair this to is the Honda rebel 1100.
A chrome radiator grill would look great on that. And spoked wheels. And floorboards.
Spoke wheels and floorboards are options, but not the chrome grill.
@@amazingredkitty3605 Hmmm. I'd have to fabricate!
@@HiroNguy i got spoked custom hooligan wheels ,they really make the bike look incredible
My first bike was a 125cc cruiser 4 stroke 15 hp with fully adjustable rear suspension
Also give the Triumph speedmaster a try. I daily'd a 1200 sportster and the speed master is better in just about every way IMO. Haven't tried the scout though.
Yammie needs to go ride a 2020 Street Bob or Low Rider S.
Best cruiser. Suzuki Boulevard M109r. It's a drag racing bike so it doesn't steer well, but you gotta try it!
130/90 16 is the most common UJM rear tire size. Should make it really easy and cheap to find a nice performing set of rubber!
A new black Scout with ABS is $12,400, no thanks. I bought a 2014 Street Glide Special with 25K miles for $10,500 last year. High output 103 with 110 ft lb of torque and 80 BHP. Project Rushmore, 6.5" touch screen with bluetooth and navigation. Ride by wire, cruise control, linked Brembo brakes with ABS, 18" wheels, 2 up riding, saddles bags with plenty of storage, and the best paint job in the industry. My mysterious red sunglow paint looks show room new. I've put 10k trouble free miles on her with no problems just regular maintenance. PS that water cooled scout sounds like crap.
SGS is not even the same universe as a Scout. New vs New the SGS is 2x+ the price on the scout, so apples/oranges. A 6+ year old Scout is probably closer to 6gs too.
They serve completely different purposes. Scout is a town hopper, Street Glide is an open-road tourer.
I haven't had my hands on a Scout yet, so no real opinion. I did ride it's step-brother the Octane at a demo day, and that was a SWEET ride. Wouldn't have wanted to cross the country on it, but for a commuter/hopper it was pretty sweet.
Demoed an SGS a few years ago too. Also an AWESOME ride, but for different reasons.
Exhaust note on the Scout seems pretty good to me. Better than any inline 4 that's for sure :p
@@squish3r I don't disagree with you. It was a money comparison. A brand new Softail standard is $13,600 plus 800 if you want ABS. Yammie is comparing this to a used 883 they bought. A brand new Iron 1200 is $9,995. I'll take the sound of any HD over any water cooled bike.
@@marka2510 I have 0 brand loyalty; and I think this guy sounds just fine, but that's a subjective thing for sure.
Not like I have a lot of room to talk, my ride is a 17+ year old Suzuki XD
People keep saying the Scout lineup isn’t for beginners. But I see a lot of beginners buying them and enjoying them.
Thank you for finally realizing what a cruiser is. But the scout isn’t the best cruiser. Still an Indian but the ftr1200 is. I’d say the challenger but even though it embodies everything I want in a bagger. I still prefer the street glide and road glide. They aren’t better. The challenger is definitely better. But maybe it’s the Harley boy in me. I just let the looks over the performance because is marginally better but the looks just don’t compete enough for me to want it over it’s competition. I’m actually really excited to see BMW’s new bagger that’s been rumored
Naked bikes can be cruisers or a super Duke. This Indian is most bang for the buck. No stage 4 needed. More cash in your pocket.
I got my permit a few weeks ago and just bought a harley sportster xl1200.
I like the chrome but hate the fat front tire. I hope to see a future 'sport' variation of this bike with a more modern thinner and larger diameter front tire, maybe upgraded suspension. A slightly higher seat would be nicer too but I'm just under 6 foot tall rider.
Liquid cooling with tight clearances of engine will last a long time.
What pipes were on the Scout in the video? I'm looking at upgrading to one next year and I love the sound of that exhaust
V&H slip ons
If it’s pre 2018 scout you can buy fork springs from progressive that people say help the front end a lot, 2018 and on has cartridge forks that has some aftermarket options but they’re decently expensive.
12:00 YAMMIE DIDNT STOP
I just looked at one of these if was black looks really nice in real. I set on it very nice. Doesn’t feel so heavy handle bars come back nicely. Seat is a little hard
Since you really like the Scout. I think you would love the Victory Octane. It's a little more sporty. That's my dream bike
I love that Indian said if you all want to go fast here's the FTR go for it.
I just don’t understand what people expect from Harley that isn’t available on their cruisers besides being water cooled. That’s not really important unless you’re chasing horsepower. They make in torque which others make in horsepower. That to me is more important on the street for a cruiser. If there was anything I wish Harley had that they don’t it’s actually a tft display on a softail with riding modes and Bluetooth connection. The softail standard would be the perfect cruiser if the ftr1200 didn’t exist. But honestly if I wanted something fancy and have performance I’d be riding a Tiger 900
I got my 2018 scout 60 brand new and here I am 10k miles in and have no need for a new bike. I don't feel that I need an upgrade. I like other bikes, but I love my scout.
Please do a video on the Fury. Would love to hear your perspective on it. I recently got one and love the bike. Not fast by any means, but a nice rride.
Yammie, a quick opinion.. try the Royal Enfield Interceptor or Continental GT. I think it's a bit different product of what you are used to from RE, and in terms of sport heritage, it's right up there. With an excelent price
I've got a 2018 Scout 60. It is hard for me to get used to the kickstand position. I have to push my leg back to clumsily find it to put it down.
I nearly bought a scout bobber few years ago but didn't like forward controls. I ended up going with a triumph bobber instead.
Put it next to a Sportster and ask yourself why anyone would buy the Harley. Indian is what Harley SHOULD be at this point in history.
If I wanted a boat I'd go get one :) I'll stick with my nightster personally
🤣🤣 Nightster. Still a boat.
Um, Nightster - 665 lbs, Scout - 558 lbs. If the Scout is a boat then the Nightster is a ship.
Handles like one. Cant stand them. But that why more than one motorcycle exists.
I am not sure why, but I like the scout engine so much better than the FTR1200 engine. Indian says the engines have about 20% in common. I guess thats why it has only 20% of the smoothness and linear power delivery of the scout.
scout was my first bike, then moved on to an Indian chief dark horse. Might go back to a scout in a couple of years though. It was more fun, but less comfortable.
Test ride a Challenger. Amazing power and handling compared to the Chief but you keep the comfort.
@@paulf9653 Already bought a scout bobber, I don't care for fairings. If they make a challenger without one, then I'll consider it.
@@kendil22 that's a great looking bike! I'd love to have a matte blue one sitting next to my Challenger!!
honestly the bike isnt heavy. hareleys are hella cumbersome. i feel like the scout loves to get off the kickstand and go while harleys flops themselves around. I like harleys those
Victory octane is a great cruiser, n of course the vmax
I might be interested if the seat wasn't on the ground, and it had mid-controls . . .
Please start recording in 4k papa yams, it's all I want this christmas 🎅🏻
Scouts a very cool bike. I love my H-D and one day I’ll have a hyper naked. Variety, it’s good for ya.
Should do the Harley soft tail standard next year. It seems like a pretty cool bike.
I looked at them before I bought my Scout Bobber. 3.5k more for a bike that weighs 100+ lbs more with a higher center of gravity and less power and it looks like it is from the 80s or 90s...big pass for me.
@@stuckinpodunk Honestly the only thing I was looking at was the price compared to other harleys and the looks. In my opinion it looks better than the scout but that’s just me.
Yammie actually understanding what cruisers are about? What the fuck is happening?
Was about to order up a new Scout & trade or sell the R6 w/ code 46 issue. Hitting my 40's now so seemed like a good time to transition ......💡Scout for the road & R6 for track ? 🤯🤠🤘SWEET YAMMINATION ! Usher me into the glory land of the Rossi rush. 🤜🤛
If you could get to ride a Victory Octane which was a boosted version of this bike you'd feel the difference. I rode one at Sturgis when they came out and was surprised on how much faster it felt than the basic Scout.
I have a '19 Scout and it isn't the Octane, for sure. I love it, but the Octane is what the Scout COULD be. Although mine has more than enough power for me.
This is the cruiser for people born after 1990 or so. It sets by itself a minimum for what any new cruiser rider is going to want after its appearance.
Not really, HD "big beasts" are overweight, overrated and overpriced.
If I had the garage space I would already own one of these. But I only have enough space for one bike and that bike is for my Ducati 821.
Would love to see you test the Triumph Speedmaster. I am thinking about buying one. But have never had anything but sportbikes. So your opinion would be relevant 👍
Good bike and review. But there's only one thing I'd want to do with it. Make it a donor bike for the coolest café racer of all time.
C'mon Yammie... try the Vulcan S...
U just gotta put drag bars on it otherwise your leaning back when you relax your posture
I think I've spammed that suggestion a few times...nothing yet lol
@@plmotoring so have I. He keeps ignoring it and still talks shit about it. Lol.
@@rallynfernandes8970 cruiser with sport bike engine would be interesting to see his yammi fast boi perspective...the srk cycle dude has done tonnes of videos singing its praises. Oh well im not a paying subscriber can't complain
@@plmotoring I know. It was Sean's videos that made me buy one. Great bike. Would like to listen to Baldy and his Fat Minion's perspective.
In one month I’m going to buy one Scout 2017 almost the same to that one on video
While I know this video is over a year old I can say this, ditch the regular scout and get the bobber ! I bought my bobber in 2018 and I am in love with it. I came from the super sport world, I have owned Ducatis down to Hondas and with out a doubt I can tell you if you know how to actually ride that scout, you will be amazed at their capabilities, and yes the stock tires suck!! Ride the crap out of it and purposely destroy the rear tire so you ca ln put a better tire on it asap.
Good review Noobs. You're a pro.
How about a comparison of this to the bobber.
Great review