Eleonor of Habsburg - A Queen for France

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  • Опубліковано 30 жов 2021
  • Eleonor of Habsburg was the prototype of the ideal renaissance princess, born and raised to serve her family in any given situation, even if that went against her personal desires.
    From a young age, she was considered by her relatives as a valuable asset to the Habsburg dynasty and throughout her life she always behaved as a devoted and obedient daughter, sister and wife, with great pride and without any complains.
    Many times in her life time, Eleonor was forced to do as she was told, sometimes making huge personal sacrifices. But, beyond being just a piece in the pollical chest game, Eleonor was also a Queen, twice, and a refined and educated woman, who had a knowledge of Europe much deeper than other royal women of her time.
    From Flanders, where Eleonor was born and raised, to the Iberian Peninsula that she discovered in her youth and retired in her old age, and France, where Eleonor was queen for 17 years, surrounded by a court where she was seen as the sister of the enemy.
    So, on this video, I’m going to try to find how did Eleonor become queen of France, as well as the personal dream she cherished throughout her reign there.
    #eleonorofaustria #habsburgdynasty #renaissance
    Sources:
    - Buesco, Ana Isabel (2008). D. João III. Temas e Debates: Lisboa.
    - dos Guimarães Sá, Isabel; Comblet, Michel (2012). Rainhas consortes de D. Manuel I - Isabel de Castela, Maria de Castela, Leonor de Áustria. Círculo de Leitores: Lisboa.
    Channel: / @intothepast
    Into The Past 2021.
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  • @IntoThePast
    @IntoThePast  2 роки тому +34

    The information presented in this video is only possible thanks to the work and dedication of academics and researchers. Therefore they take full credit for it. You can access the sources used in the making of this video in the description.

  • @mariaminghi4297
    @mariaminghi4297 2 роки тому +32

    In Spanish we call her “la reina obediente” which means the obedient queen as she often put down her own desires to satisfy her brother

  • @adriannespring8598
    @adriannespring8598 2 роки тому +101

    Except Joanna "the Mad" was NOT mad but Phillip was an emotional/sexually abusive sadist. Check out the highly detailed book "Isabella: The Warrior Queen" by Kirsten Downey. The focus on Joanna's life is explored in depth roughly from chapter 23rd. Her father was a flagrant egotistical sadist as well who deeply resented resented the power his wife had and held that grudge till he died. HIGHLY recommend that book.

    • @IntoThePast
      @IntoThePast  2 роки тому +41

      I never said in the video she was in fact mad, i used the expression Juanna "the mad" because this was the epithet given to her (rightly or wrongly) in her life time and used ever since. It is scientifically correct (from the point of view of history, as it is a part of her life story that cant be erased, even if she wasn't) and allows me to identity her in a simple and direct way.
      As to her supposed madness, I agree with modern historians that point out that she wasn't mad like she was portrayed in historiography for centuries. But it impossible to deny that she probably suffered from some kind of mental health issue (depression maybe?) that it s now impossible to know for sure.
      Only a professional could analyze her case. but that now is impossible.
      Our society is much more open today to talk about mental health without stigmatizing the people who struggle with it, i think we should apply the same principle to the past.
      Just because she might struggled with her mental health in a period of her life, doesn't mean that she was mad. But on the other side, doesn't mean that she was completely free from these issues.
      The truth is probably somewhere in the middle (even that is questionable), but we will never have any certainty about this question, only theories (hopefully backed by science and not fantasies).
      On the other hand, it's good to see that people are interested in this subject!

    • @adriannespring8598
      @adriannespring8598 2 роки тому +6

      @@IntoThePast True, just pointing out the in depth detail actually explored in the book from direct sources of the time that would be interesting to add to the discussion.

    • @Isabella2335.
      @Isabella2335. 2 роки тому +12

      @@adriannespring8598 I think she was suffering from a severe form of depression disorder that can occurred after giving birth and they didn’t understand medical health issues in those days either!

    • @adriannespring8598
      @adriannespring8598 2 роки тому +12

      @@Isabella2335. Absolutely but literally read the book I suggested, during her lifetime her husband and father spread outright lies about her to oust her from power as Queen of Castile because they wanted the resource control she was in the way of. There's firsthand accounts of people meeting her and being mystified of the "mad" reports when she was in fact perfectly sane only not as outgoing & domineering as her mother.

    • @Isabella2335.
      @Isabella2335. 2 роки тому +6

      @@adriannespring8598 I just brought it

  • @bookmouse2719
    @bookmouse2719 2 роки тому +22

    Their jaws kept getting larger and larger from intermarriages.

  • @iosephvscarrizozae7887
    @iosephvscarrizozae7887 2 роки тому +32

    Eleonor of Austria is said to have died of a broken heart, because when she finally met her daughter Maria of Portugal, the Princess acted indiferent, cold and with anger towards her mother… she died not long after that sad meeting…

  • @tamaliaalisjahbana9354
    @tamaliaalisjahbana9354 2 роки тому +14

    How sad...to see her daughter only once in 35 years...

  • @pamelachartrand1082
    @pamelachartrand1082 2 роки тому +33

    I found from reading a lot of the hapsburgs most or all of them were a nice and gentle family. Which can be hard to find with a lot of other European monarchs

    • @gonefishing167
      @gonefishing167 2 роки тому +5

      Perhaps but I sure wish they’d known the dangers of interbreeding. You could in no way call them an attractive family. Catherine of Aragon must have got off lucky. Though, In later aged portraits , she was starting to get what looked like a tad of a hapsburg jawline. It’s a wonder the whole lot of them were t away with the squirrels. Think this was quite early into the ‘keep it in the family’ line. Not sure about Joanna. I’ve heard a very convincing case that she was t. Hmmm 🤔. Could have been sibling rivalry gone overboard. 👵👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

    • @pamelachartrand1082
      @pamelachartrand1082 2 роки тому +1

      @@gonefishing167 that’s true a lot of them probably were away with the squarrels look at don Carlos who was Philip of spains son. He wasn’t mentally well or physically and then Carlos 11 of spain . They sure didn’t know the dangers of interbreeding. It was interesting I was reading up on Eleanor when she married her 1 st husband Manuel they had a daughter Catherine and manuel had had another son John 11 of Portugal from a previous marriage. John of Portugal had considered marrying his half sister Catherine. That would have been awful. They didn’t know much but yes the hapsburg jaw most of them had

    • @samcabrera2316
      @samcabrera2316 2 роки тому +9

      @@gonefishing167 What? Catherine of Aragon was a Trastamara not a Habsburg.

    • @pamelachartrand1082
      @pamelachartrand1082 2 роки тому +1

      @@gonefishing167 what do you think of Philip the handsome, juannas husband? He was probably about the only one who wasn’t too bad looking

    • @gonefishing167
      @gonefishing167 2 роки тому +1

      Sorry dam, my bad. 👵🇦🇺🇦🇺

  • @skrayraja
    @skrayraja 2 роки тому +13

    Seperated from her daughter for 35 years! Holy shit. Who wants to be a queen in such a condition. Its betters to be a commoner

    • @jeandehuit5385
      @jeandehuit5385 2 роки тому +3

      The peasants also practiced arranged marriages (they were usually more geographically close, for obvs. reasons), so it's not exactly like they're free to just do whatever themselves. I think a lot of people would have been willing to sell out their children to live in splendor.

  • @e.a.b.k7048
    @e.a.b.k7048 2 роки тому +6

    One moment while I go call my Mom and tell her I love her

  • @HikariHolic
    @HikariHolic 2 роки тому +32

    it is rare for women in the Renaissance period to have a happy ending, so it is nice to see eleanor have one by being able to finally reunite with her daughter

    • @nenisguevaragomez8122
      @nenisguevaragomez8122 2 роки тому +6

      But her daughter turned her back on Leonor at the end, she refused to live together with her, that affected her health a lot and died shortly after they met.

    • @shop-a-holic3194
      @shop-a-holic3194 2 роки тому

      @@nenisguevaragomez8122 🤣... And this is how too kill a good ending! 😂🤣

    • @nenisguevaragomez8122
      @nenisguevaragomez8122 2 роки тому +3

      @@shop-a-holic3194 well it is a fact

  • @Belinda8881
    @Belinda8881 2 роки тому +12

    Thank you for posting. Wonderful video.Leonor and her siblings were so cute when they were children.

  • @pbohearn
    @pbohearn Місяць тому

    The end is heartbreaking. A mothers love

  • @pamelachartrand1082
    @pamelachartrand1082 2 роки тому +7

    Lovely video she seemed like a great queen and person but put up with a lot . I really like the photos with the video too

  • @rawirocket8194
    @rawirocket8194 2 роки тому +7

    Great upload. I didn’t know about her, history favours kings over queens. She lived a fascinating life.

    • @adriannespring8598
      @adriannespring8598 2 роки тому +3

      I highly recommend the book: "Isabella A Warrior Queen" by Kirsten Downey for an incredibly in depth examination of the women's history in that family.

    • @rawirocket8194
      @rawirocket8194 2 роки тому +2

      @@adriannespring8598 Thank you for the recommendation! I will try to find it 😊

    • @adriannespring8598
      @adriannespring8598 2 роки тому +1

      @@rawirocket8194 Its available via Audible and hard copy. I bought the Audible to listen to while I worked my 8hr shift. 😏

  • @hyperactivehyperbole
    @hyperactivehyperbole 2 роки тому +10

    Thanks for the upload, definitely enjoyed and haven’t heard much of her story, sadly. Was nice to learn of her. Thanks again!

  • @salvadorarruda4664
    @salvadorarruda4664 2 роки тому +4

    loved the details

  • @pamelachartrand1082
    @pamelachartrand1082 2 роки тому +9

    I’m looking forward to more of your up coming videos. These are great and well done. The art and pictures too. Will you be doing videos on all the hapsburgs as well? Like emperor Ferdinand of Austria and his children? Or just the Spanish side? I was just curious. Regardless whatever upcoming ones you do I’m sure will be great. I have watched your videos a few times now

  • @naishahenderson9976
    @naishahenderson9976 Рік тому

    This is such a heartbreaking story and one I'm so glad I now know. I have been interested in similar videos on this and other royal documentary channels, for several years now. And I am always stunned by some of the details concerning royal families intrigue and drama. This story just made me sad.

  • @Mar-pb3vx
    @Mar-pb3vx 2 роки тому +8

    Reconheço um compatriota pela sua maneira de pronunciar alguns dos nomes :) Excelente trabalho :)

  • @annfisher3316
    @annfisher3316 2 роки тому +3

    Really enjoy your videos, thank you! 👍👏✌

  • @christinetitus6388
    @christinetitus6388 2 роки тому +6

    Obrigada. Gostei do vídeo. Nunca ouvi de Eleonor de Áustria antes.

  • @paupimariu2367
    @paupimariu2367 Місяць тому

    Nice video !

  • @nillyk5671
    @nillyk5671 2 роки тому +1

    Awwww 😭

  • @medievalgoth9777
    @medievalgoth9777 2 роки тому +4

    Loved the video! keep up the good work!

  • @genevievevavance3122
    @genevievevavance3122 2 роки тому +5

    13:44 if that was me... 🗡🚬
    😉loved the video as usual!

  • @wellwell8648
    @wellwell8648 2 роки тому

    Love it!

  • @LariLesque
    @LariLesque 2 роки тому +2

    Great content. Enjoyed your video very much.

  • @karawigley6231
    @karawigley6231 2 роки тому +3

    Anytime I see the name Habsburg I think don’t stare at the chin, don’t stare at the chin…

  • @wellwell8648
    @wellwell8648 2 роки тому +1

    Love it

  • @WickedFelina
    @WickedFelina Рік тому +1

    Wow! Eleonor looks almost the spitting image of my mother. My mother has deepset or, what they called "Bedroom Eyyes" in Italy. My mother is full blooded Italian. If they were not so far apart in time, I would swear we were related. My mother's family on her mother's side are Nobility, and her father's mother was the daughter of a princess. So, maybe?

  • @bekytwining2522
    @bekytwining2522 2 роки тому +3

    true, Juana was not complètement mad but rather OCDC and therefore not fit to gouvern all her kingdoms ! That she was horribly treated is à fact by her very Catholic Son Carlos V ! Poor Lady.

    • @meeeka
      @meeeka 2 роки тому

      Ive always thought that Charles was also slightly "off balance," like his mother.

    • @QWERTYUIOP-wu6ht
      @QWERTYUIOP-wu6ht Рік тому

      Charles was Joanna's co-ruler actually. Since medical confinement wasn't a thing yet for the mentally ill he decided to keep Joanna where she was since it's for her safety as well.

  • @laiapuig1710
    @laiapuig1710 2 роки тому +1

    por favor si pudieras traduciorlo al castellano te lo agradeceria

  • @jeanette606
    @jeanette606 2 роки тому +2

    Ever heard of Gráinne ní mhaol Grace Malone Irelands pirate queen

  • @isaiasramosgarcia9771
    @isaiasramosgarcia9771 2 роки тому +1

    in the series Leonor canednt! see her daughter, to her uter pain

  • @michellel564
    @michellel564 2 роки тому +4

    So marry an old king instead of a young prince. Ok

  • @elizabethbower2168
    @elizabethbower2168 2 роки тому +4

    This was an absolutely fascinating video… My only criticism is that the narrator speaks too quickly and often miss pronounces words… But I appreciate that English is not your first language

    • @nicoleb3868
      @nicoleb3868 2 роки тому +1

      If you change the speed to 75% its easier to catch everything he's saying.

    • @alexandramsh4740
      @alexandramsh4740 2 роки тому

      @@nicoleb3868 thank you! Indeed, it’s much clearer to listen with the 75% speed. Xx

  • @queenisabella9380
    @queenisabella9380 2 роки тому +3

    I thought she was suggested as a Bride for Henry vlll to

    • @jeandehuit5385
      @jeandehuit5385 2 роки тому +2

      She was

    • @queenisabella9380
      @queenisabella9380 2 роки тому +4

      @@jeandehuit5385 lucky escape for her

    • @jeandehuit5385
      @jeandehuit5385 2 роки тому +5

      @@queenisabella9380 Well, she was closer to Henry in age, & she didn't share her aunt's penchant for fasting, so there's a chance they'd have better luck conceiving.
      If *that* is the case, then Henry gets his beloved male-heir right away & there's a good chance Henry VIII leaves history w/ only 1 wife...

    • @queenisabella9380
      @queenisabella9380 2 роки тому +3

      @@jeandehuit5385 yeah god bless wouldn't that have saved a lot of bloodshed

    • @Kenfren
      @Kenfren 2 роки тому

      @@jeandehuit5385 one of the factors in the many wives was likely a head trauma, so maybe maybe not

  • @lisakalfus4706
    @lisakalfus4706 2 роки тому +1

    HAPSBurg not Hamsburg

  • @colormetakenaback
    @colormetakenaback Рік тому

    Why does it have to be Joanna The Mad??? 😭😭😭😆

  • @sozbdulrhmanli3300
    @sozbdulrhmanli3300 2 роки тому +3

    💀wtf

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