Musicians react to hearing Wintersun for the very first time!
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2023
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Its also important to recognize that not only Kai but the bass player are both current members of Nightwish.
Sometimes I think of them as Winterwish. LoL
@@TaverenTech they wanted some time off to chill, so they now play 10 minute tracks at half the tempo.
@@TaverenTech or NightSun 😂
Oh really? Did not know that NW's new bassist was this guy.
Jukka Koskinen is his name by the way.
TIME is an masterpiece that not only meets expectations, it confidently and thoroughly shatters them. Powerful riffs, triumphant orchestrations, grandiose choruses, soul piercing lyrics and heart-wrenching vocals.
TIME from the same rehearsal is their best song.
YES!
THIS
No it's not
The forest that weeps is their best song
I concur
I concur
Facts: There is two members from current Nightwish in this video. Kai is the obvious but the bassist Jukka Koskinen is since last year a full member of Nightwish, replacing Marko.
I absolutly love seeing people discover Wintersun for the first time, and react with such jaw-dropping surprise to all the different parts, melodies, and compositional layers (upon layers), that went into making this gorgeous masterpiece. For me the transitions with Jari's range from growls to clean vocals is just phenominally flawless. And wonderful Kai..like a human Machine Gun! The stories their songs tell is just as amazing.. A true 'gallop off on a quest' across snow-swept wintery landscapes, this song has always filled my heart to bursting with love and pure enjoyment. One of the most beautifully epic songs in metal.
I saw an interview where Kai Hahto was asked: - Now that in Nightwish, how come you don't do that incredible stuff you did on Wintersun?
He laughed and answered: - You don't do things because you CAN, you do what serves the song.
Also, the Bass player Jukka is now in Nightwish !!!
🤘😎🤘.
Great comment, spot on!
Kai playing for Wintersun is what opened my eyes to what drummers really do for a song
I'm not a musician, but the drum play through /drum cam of Kai playing this is just 😮😍 So hooking to watch and listen to ❤
He's a beast. (And so humble and nice guy)
I've even watched his "little drum warming studio" - which was like ..oh well.. some drummer reacted to that and at the end only wished he'd some day arrive at that level. ❤
Wintersun, Time, other bands can only dream of approaching this level. For me one of if not the greatest tracks of all time by the greatest band ever bar none who so may don't know about.
The bass player here is Jukka Koskinen, who is also the current bass player in Nightwish. He replaced Marko.
You HAVE to check out "Time" from the same rehearsal session! One of the most gorgeous pieces of music ever created and probably my favourite song ever❤️
Kai saidin interview that this was second song they recorded in this rehearsal, they played Time first so he was warm enough already.
It´s nice to watch people reacting the first time to this band. Wintersun with Nightwish are those bands I never get tired to listen to. Now it is time to watch Time,
for the next one to react to Wintersun. Thank you guys for this one, a good react from you. Till the next one, take care.
Lead singer Jari Maenpaa had contracted Tuberculosis during his military service, and has diminished lung capacity because of it. He has stopped playing guitar live, to focus on the vocals. Teemu Mantysaari on guitar, and Jukka Koskinen on bass(also now with Nightwish). Kai is listed as on hiatus since 2017.
There are 2 more songs from this session on UA-cam. They are shorter, relatively. lol. Time is 12 minutes, and Land of Snow and Sorrow is 8 minutes.
8 min is a sprint for theese guys lol
Nightwish & Wintersun are just two examples of bands from the kingdom of metal music, which is Finland. We have over 700 metal bands per 1M citizens, no other country comes even close - e.f. the U.S. has just over 70/1M. Other great Finnish metal bands include Amorphis, Battle Beast, Ensiferum, Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica, Apocalyptica, Beast In Black, just to mention a few.
Stam1na!
This is the ultimate crowd participation song. I saw them doing this live about 6 yrs ago at a small metal festival in Finland and the crowd were mental, everyone knew all the words . One of the best experiences of my life. Fuckin goosebump city 🤘
This is ONE song with 4 parts - but definitely one song. Here's the tracklist from the album "Time I":
1. "When Time Fades Away" 4:08
2. "Sons of Winter and Stars"
I. "Rain of Stars"
II. "Surrounded by Darkness"
III. "Journey Inside a Dream"
IV. "Sons of Winter and Stars" 13:31
3. "Land of Snow and Sorrow" 8:22
4. "Darkness and Frost" 2:24
5. "Time" 11:45
6. "Sons of Winter and Stars (Acapella)" (Limited edition bonus hidden track1) 3:50
Land of Snow and Sorrow are in lack of better words so freezing cold to listen to.
I need to hear that acapella version.
First time on this channel, long time Wintersun fan. Love your take guys, also good chemistry and entertaining. Cheers
I just paused this video at 0:01 to tell you, that if you loved the drumming of Kai in previous videos, you are going to faint once you see this one. That man is a machine behind the drum kit. And the rest of the band... Yeah, you are about to find out. This one is a ride you will never regret taking. :)
And now to continue the video and see your reactions! :)
i find it crazy that people are finding wintersun because of nightwish, i get nightwish being super popular and more accessible but i see a lot of videos of people knowing Kai from nightwish but not people knowing him from wintersun in nightwish videos. I think wintersun is underrated, incredible band, in the metal world theyre pretty well known but theyre all so extremely talented that they need more recognition
What is more amazing, they are playing WITH CLICK TRACK and there are tons of stuff in backing tracks (keys, chorals, effects, spoken words etc.) - you actually can see Macbook (pro) behind Kai's shoulder that has tracks playing. Jukka Koskinen, the bassist, is also with Nightwish nowadays.
Great reaction guys. Thats their kitchen sink song, they throw everything at it lol. Wintersun is the more aggressive, melancholic but no less romantic version of Nightwish. Cant recommend the other 2 track from this rehearsal session enough. Both brilliant and truly inventive and a bit shorter too! Thanks again guys, good luck with the gigs 😃🤘🏻
Loneliness from Forests seasons, is a dong Jari wrote to his fathers passing and that really shows his singing ability.
Plus it is a beautiful tribute😢❤
Sons of Winter and Stars is a great example of why Kai Hahto (drummer) has the very well earned nickname of "The Metal Metronome." No matter how complex the pattern, fill, or blast, he is always precisely on the beat.
There is a great Kai only version. Some drum clinic I guess. It's shows the unbelievable techical nyances of his drumming. One the the greatest!!
There are, on UA-cam, several different drum cams of Kai demonstrating this and other tracks
'My dreams wither in fragments of time' is one of the most beautiful verses I've heard in lyrics.
Tuomas and Kai have a Nightwish preceding history and an on-and-off presence in a black metal band called Darkwoods My Betrothed. They recently released new material. Jari Mäenpää has spend years creating and refining his epic folk-inspired melodic death metal. Ensiferum is one of the Finnish Folk Metal Big 5. The others are Korpiklaani, Turisas, Finntroll and Moonsorrow. Then there's their forefather Amorphis. All accomplished bands worth checking out.
Glad you enjoyed this. Wintersun started as Jari's (lead vocals & rhythm guitar here) side project. He had some songs he had written that did not fit with his current bands sound/style. You wanted to see them live, here is a live version of "Time" they did as an encore in LA in 2018. ua-cam.com/video/kYOxgNarWVw/v-deo.html The video / audio quality is not bad for a live shot. While Jari usually plays everything but the drums in studio, he is often does not play anything live so he can move / interact with the audience better. This is with, I believe, Rolf Pilve (Stratovarius) on drums & Asim Searah on rhythm guitar.
Jukka Koskinen the Bassist here is also now in Nightwish having stepped in when Marko left the band.
this is a masterpiece that is even hard to comprehend
Yep. There is something heavy in our water here in Finland 🤘🇫🇮😂
I don't normally care for overly longer songs, but there's so much awesomeness going on here that I can't help but love it. The only problem with these guys is that you're lucky if get two albums per decade.
Good to see reactors who can appreciate this for the sonic masterpiece it is!
I was pretty doubtful that they could pull this off live. I was completely wrong; they did it flawlessly in Tuska festival some years ago.
Masterpiece
Great reaction guys! you can´t go wrong with Wintersun !
I have seen this band live 3 times and they sound just as good as they do in the video here.
Is t it enjoyable to discover bands and different talents? Good reaction.
This. IS. Live.
Really enjoyed your reaction videos of this one and time! I liked your explanation of your perspective and went very professionally about it. Best reaction video out there. Props for setting things straight ahead by saying 'this is a whole other level'.
If you really enjoyed it you should consider battle against time, starchild and also death and the healing :)
Hail Finland, Helsingin bändit, HellSinging, no wonder Finland is the capital of metal. Most bands per capita and the best band of them all, Nightwish, though Wintersun is certainly amazing too.
If you think this song was long, just wait until you react to Nightwish - The Greatest Show on Earth (BTW, when you do, you will probably want to include the outro from Wembley at the end if you do Tampere version, trust me).
Nice reaction. Are you aware that the bassist, Jukka is the current Nightwish bassist.
One of the best bands in the world! And of course from Finland🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮💪💪💪🤘🤘🤘
Thank you for great reaction, dudes!
Jukka, the basist, is the one who replaced Marko in Nightwish
When foreigners are asking about Finnish metal, this is the band I recommend first.
It is not all about The Kai... Hey, it is Winterson and all is BRILLIANT
Just dropping by to say I stumbled upon your channel yesterday and I'm really enjoying it. I discovered Wintersun at some point in 2008 and 15y later I am still blown away by their skill and the atmosphere they create. I really like your comments on the technical side of things, too. Would love to see you react to Amorphis some time.
Greeting`s from Finland. the home of Wintersun & Nightwish... 💪
I think much of the backing vocals are coming from the backing track. You really can't hear all of the huge amount of tracks playing on the background in this version, because it is mixed a bit like a live recording. In the album version you can hear better everything that is happening in the song. In this studio project demonstration Jari tells that their are 1700 tracks in this song: ua-cam.com/video/hl6CmmerR8c/v-deo.html
All the 1700 tracks (mostly midi) are of course not playing at the same time, since the song is long and has many parts. But that caused Jari some problems when mixing that album, since the mixing software can't handle that many tracks.
Jukka Koskinen the bassist is now the bassist for Nightwish!
Even a duracell bunny couldn't play drums for this song. For Kai, it's another Tuesday.
It's very easy to relax laying down on the couch to this album. Masterpiece!
Loved the active listening and review, not just another "wow thats good" and thats it. Was all true reaction and opinions. Listen to Octavarium (23') or Six degrees of inner turbulence (40') by dream theater!
Seen them live and they do everything. It's awesome!
There bass player also replaced marco in nightwish 2021
Knowing what a perfectionist Jari is, and seeing Jukka doing some backup singing makes me hope that Jukka's voice is good enough that he can do some singing on Nightwish's next album.
Tuomas has said that Jukka will not be singing on the next album, Just Floor and Troy, I still miss Marko🇬🇧
@@tracyfarnath2270 You're not the only one who misses Marko.
@@WNYretiree ♥️😒
Plenty of post-production and vocal layering. That was SAF! Loved it!
🤘😎🤘
Do give ensiferum a try, especially lai lai hei. The original version was sung by Jari Maenpa
I dont knwo if it has been mentioned here before but fun fact: The singer Jari has had one lung removed once. THat makes him even more impressive I think
They call it a rehearsal because that's exactly how they'll play it live. I know. Un-fucking-believable.
Nice you noticed my recommendation. Nice song. The singer lost part of his lungs due to tuberculosis. Amazing what his voice is capable of.
Been to their gig over decade ago... ticket was like 10€ and they played half a mile from my place in this legendary metal music live house in Jyväskylä, Finland... was very awesome, yes... seen also many other Finnish acts there. :)
There's no video for it but Battle Against Time is my favorite Wintersun song. Had to mention it. Totally agree with the others that have suggested you check out the song Time from the same rehersal, though.
This was the recording where Kai lost his eyebrows. They looked all over for them, but to no avail.
This song is called business card for the Wintersun. They play it live exactly the same way. This was literally live playthrough practice session that they just recorded in studio. (I'm guessing it's actually two different takes for the video.) It's not their best song but it includes pretty much all the styles and techniques they use. The "Time" from the same session is their best song. And the Loneliness is also great song.
And after seeing/reacting to the original song Loneliness, this great cover is also worth checking out:
LONELINESS - WINTERSUN (Cover By CHARME)
ua-cam.com/video/kxNwtFV_kWM/v-deo.html
A song with four movements like this in 'ye olden times' would be called a symphony. It's structured that way on purpose.
hey guys, surprising isn't it ;o) TIME is next - both Kai and Jukka (bass) are now in Nightwish. Will be interesting to see if NW will make use of Jukka's vocal abilities on their next album. They start rehearsing/recording the next album from july 1st.
New sub because of Wintersun!
Drummer and bass player both play their part in the present Nightwish 😊
Wintersun - Time is right up there with this song, and from the same rehearsal
A bit on the tangential comment, but I also recommend reacting to original Nightwish singer Tarja (not Anette) material, especially Phantom of the Opera where Marko and Tarja go absolutely nuts
I concur.
There's a lot of death metal influence- in the form of melodic death metal. You have to understand that melodeath is very, very different from traditional death metal. I haven't checked out your full channel yet, but if you look into melodeath bands like Insomnium, Soilwork, or Mors Principium Est, you'll understand how vast the range of specific *melodic* death metal is. It's totally its own thing, and worth deep diving.
'Time' would've been a better introduction to the band imo. This one is quite overwhelming.
Another great reaction! My third favorite band after Nightwish and Epica. These guys are so epic. Their music feels like a movie score for nordic folk tales or Viking sagas. Wintersun was founded as a side project by Jari from his folk metal band Enisferium. They split with him over a disagreement on him wanting to spend more time on Wintersun. Jari is a known perfectionist and each song on the Time album has over 200 tracks so the mixing is a nightmare. In fact it has been said that the computers weren't powerful enough when the album was first recorded and they had to wait for the technology to improve before the could mix it. One amazing fact is that Jari is missing about 25% of one of his lungs. It had to be removed after he contracted tuberculosis during his mandatory military service. At the end where you guys heard the Irish shanty influence I always feel like I am on a longboat rowing across the sea on some epic quest. You guys definitely need to do Time from the same studio play through. It is even better then Sons of Winter and Stars IMO and one of my favorites. I also love their song Loneliness (Winter) from the Forest Seasons album. As a northern New England guy that song perfectly captures the desolation and quiet of a winter forest. Jari wrote the song after his father's passing so it has a double meaning. The lyric video by the band is outstanding. If you want to check some of Jari's work with Enisferium I would recommend Lai Lai Hei, ua-cam.com/video/eMXGruO8zBU/v-deo.html or Treacherous Gods, ua-cam.com/video/1HphiKoduC8/v-deo.html. There are some live videos of these song s but with different singers since they are all from after Jari left.
Just checked and you guys haven't checked out Epica yet. Female fronted Dutch symphonic metal band. They are the darker /heavier cousin of Nightwish. Lot's of reactors find them through their song Sancta Terra from their 10th anniversary concert because Floor is a guest singer on the song. It is great song and Simone and Floor's voices together are amazing but not a typical Epica song. Unleashed from the same Retrospect concert is a great introduction or Skeleton Key (music video or live from Omega Alive) to get some of Mark's harsh vocals. If you want to go heavy then Consign to Oblivion live from the Zenith in Paris is the way to go.
There's also a "Drum Through" of this song! 🙂
Everytime I hear Wintersun I will remember Children Of Bodom.... which I love (RIP)
❤Amazing ❤ Winterson, Nightwish and Sabaton❤❤❤❤ thank you❤
This song had over 1600 tracks in mixing table.
Have you done a reaction to Unleash the Archers song Awakening? The full band play through video is fire. It isn’t as long as this song but all of their albums are concept albums and they are really cool. From Vancouver, BC.
in my opinion kai is the best drummer in the world, he can play everything.
😁🇫🇮💙🪄🎼✨💯🤘
Only from Finland 🤘😁👍💙🇫🇮
Hi guys! Please, listen Dan Vasc. He is metal singer. He is so good. Listen Nemo (Nightwish') , Dawn of Victory (Rapsody on Fire) . He sing with Fabio Lione ( Rapsody on Fire vocalist, Angra, Shaman)
Melodic death metal is the genre you are looking for :)
Teemu the guitarist with blue guitar now plays in Megadeth
This is what Kai said about the difference playing with Wintersun, Nightwish and Swallow The Sun (doom/death metal band): “ I realized that playing with Nightwish was much more physical than with some other bands. With Wintersun, for example, I didn’t have to move my arms so much, and with Swallow The Sun, the tempo was deliberately sluggish. Fortunately I realized early on that if I’d start banging like a maniac right from the get-go, I’d be dead by mid-set. “
Not being a drummer myself I would also said that he is more technical and fast with Wintersun but I’d say that playing with Nightwish is more physical, the drum kit is massive, so it makes sense when he said that he has to move his arms so much.
I would like to share with you a drum cam recording playing a slow song with Nightwish, which you already know, Ghost Love Score ua-cam.com/video/RI67HtPjWuk/v-deo.html and a faster Nightwish song “Wishmaster” ua-cam.com/video/Yu-0SJCRozg/v-deo.html Just to see the difference. Kai is the human metronome.
Great reaction guys! What an amazing band Wintersun is! Swallow The Sun is also a great band but he is not part of the band anymore.
That's interesting, because I'm sure he said elsewhere that he'd have to get into training to play with Wintersun again! I'm probably misremembering slightly...
@@elvwood: Those are different aspects of drumming. More physical here refers to the wider variety of elements in the kit and how many of them are used in same songs.
Meanwhile Wintersun might get away with smaller kit - and less hand movement - but is technical and fast.
So one requires more stamina, other more precision.
@@JariJuslin thanks!
Also, listen to this several times. You won't regret it. Once you understand it all as a singular piece, it's the greatest thing you'll ever hear, and that's a promise.
You NEED to check out the other tracks on the Time I album. I couldn't possibly decide which is best.
There are a lot of different options in the comments. I'll throw in my two cents.
Darkness & Frost and Time is great (I still find Sons of Winter and Stars to be their ultimate song) if you want to give that a listen.
If you listen to anything from "The Forest Seasons", give Winter a try, it's a more mellow song but full of emotion.
For live performances, I LOVE songs from their first album. Just note though, that the first album is really lacking in vocal range. Lots of screaming (which I personally love), but not much else. Time I definitely upped the vocal range of this band.
Battle against time is a NON STOP heavy song. Tons of blast beats, amazing guitars, great song for a workout
Starchild is another fantastic song, has more clean vocals than most of the songs on that album
Beautiful Death might be my all time favorite song from them, and it's amazing in person. Here's a great live version that's taken from the audioboard: ua-cam.com/video/5akpX5j7niY/v-deo.html
If you like Kais metal drumming you should check Rotten Sound.
This song is actually divided into 4 parts on the album track listing. It goes like this:
#2 Sons of Winter and Stars
i) Rain of Stars
ii) Surrounded by Darkness
iii) Journey Inside a Dream
iv) Sons of Winter and Stars
The other epic song on this album is the title track...Time. It's 11:45 in length, and is very similar to this song, but different, of course. Check that one out next.
Wintersun - Loneliness (winter) is a beautiful song you should check out
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Paradise Lost and the Bee Gees listening to Wintersun. Great stuff. Isn't this band awesome though! Genius level musicianship. Nightwish sure knew from what band to pick the drummer and bass player. Tuomas can seriously challenge these guys. I doubt Nightwish will ever be as brutal as Wintersun though. It's a different branch from the same metal tree.
OK, you're starting connect the musical dots. We have Wintersun with Kai and Jukkis on bass, now both of Nightwish. How about we continue the Black Metal journey and take a look at Darkwoods My Betrothed, with Kai and none other than Tuomas Holopainen of Nightwish. Ya, Tuomas is also in a Black Metal band. ua-cam.com/video/NtU4v_u7pUs/v-deo.html
And if you didn't think that was enough of a stretch, how about another Tuomas project, Auri, which is all about folk metal. The singer is his wife Johanna along with Troy of Nightwish and of course, Kai on drums.
If I'm not mistaken, Kai started out as a jazz drummer.
Talk about versatility.
Another interesting tangent is Ghost Brigade. Now defunct Finnish metal band that was something like ambient black metal...
And glorious on its own way.
Time2 is coming soon ❤❤❤
For some epic bass drum play, Meshugga Bleed live drum cam.
Great reaction guys. Wintersun is amazing. Another band for you is Diabulus In Musica. On the scale of Nightwish to Wintersun, in my opinion they shade toward Wintersun, but like Nightwish they have a superb female frontwoman and incorporate more symphonic compositional elements. The best representation on YT is the live performance of Lies in Your Eyes...ua-cam.com/video/Y4P900PG-SE/v-deo.html The Napalm description says "the finest operas, rough growls, epic choirs, orchestral intermezzi and pure metal".
The guy on bass (confusingly, another Jukka) is the newest member of Nightwish, replacing Marko.
Do note that while Kai and Jukka have been hired to Nighwish later on, the genre is not the same and both bands have existed in their own spaces and genres simultaneously for quite a while.
And when you talk about having multiple songs - in symphonic music those are typical and usually called movements. So that's one part that makes this metal symphonic.
Masterpiece. Do Time and Land of Snow and Sorrow from the same session!
The bassist Jukka is also now with Nightwish.🤘🎸
Check out who plays guitar on Megadeth right now 😅
Definitely melodic death metal sounds with everything else mixed in. It reminds me some of Insomnium a Finnish melodeath band. Thanks for doing this so I'd come across it and remind me of Wintersun. I needed something different. I definitely hear the folky power metal mixed with all this too halfway or more. The changes remind me some of Winterhorde. They have a 360 rehearsal video with more of a live sound. You can spin around the room and see everyone. More similar to all this with less of the folky power metal sound.
Time!