Metal Drummer REACTS to Wintersun - SONS OF WINTER AND STARS (I AM COMPLETELY BLOWN AWAY)
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2022
- I've been a metal drummer for 12 years and have never listened to a song by Wintersun! I've heard this one goes HARD!!!
Original Video: • Wintersun - Sons Of Wi...
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If you want to see some kickass drumming from Kai check out "Devil and the deep dark ocean" from Nightwish live.
I keep saying this and Weak Fantasy and Tribal
Yes! 🔥🤟
Seconded!!!
I don't want to spoil anything! Just keep checking in on the channel because those songs are definitely on "the list"!!!!! Thank you Gary!!!
Forget nighwish you need to check out wintersun broo ❤️❤️❤️❤️
This song, and most other Wintersun songs, are why Kai Hahto has the nickname "The Human Metronome." He doesn't miss a single timing or beat with his kicks or his sticks... just consistent and smooth and also stupidly fast on the blasts
Jukka Koskinen on bass is also now in Nightwish, having been announced as a permanent member last month.
Try Time from this same session for more Wintersun.
A couple more drummers you are going to want to check out :
Arien van Weesenbeek, with EPICA. Consign To Oblivion (live at the Zenith in Paris)
Vlad Ulasevich, with Jinjer. Pisces (live session). Don't do any research on this one.
Consign to Oblivion is coming up in the queue! Thanks Chris!
I concur
@@IronSmokeLTD Keep an eye on the keyboardist - he does some funny shit with his mobile keyboard. Make sure you look at Live at the Zenith.
I would add Mario Duplantier from Gojira
I concur
Dude, I just had my head blown off my shoulders. This the first Wintersun song I ever heard. Man I have to catch up on these guys. Everyone in this group is EXTREMELY talented. Kai on drums is a machine. Good grief it's like he was on fast forward making sounds and beats coming out of those drums that were unearthly. Thank you so much for adding this to your list of reactions. I defiantly will listen to more Wintersun now.
This is part of a trio of songs recorded live at Sonic Pump. Check out Time and Land of Snow and Sorrow. You won't be disappointed. Their entire discography is amazing (if short).
Like Nightwish, Wintersun is amazing to see live!
The same here. I fell in love with this band since I saw them in UA-cam. It was love at first sight. I could not believe what I was hearing.
Rotten Sound was one of Kai's former bands. There are couple of drum cam videos of that era and they are a testimony of how fast Kai is.
NightWish have been very lucky with their drummers,Jukka and Kai are both fantastic musicians,Kai’s an absolute machine technically and Jukka’s the perfect showman,both deliver 100%…..(there’s also a great drum cam version of this) ua-cam.com/video/08_PduSKNWU/v-deo.html
Check out "Licks and Tricks with Kai Hahto" where he is describing some specific patterns and polyrhythms of this songs and new techniques he had to learn for this specific song. Thumbs up if other viewers support this recommendation.
Not sure if your aware Kai Hahto drums and Jukka Koskinen Bass are both with Nightwish now
Now, Weak Fantasy live from Tampere xD (yeah, I know it`s my third time recommending it :) )
Fun fact: in this video, you have also 2 of Nightwish members. Can you guess??
Hi Cesar! It has been added to the list! :) And wow! Definitely a great fit for Nightwish. Thanks again for watching!
I like Kai's style. He doesn't beat the drums to death, His light touch equals more speed. Really crisp. There's a lot of talent in this band.
Greeting`s from Finland. the homeland of Wintersun and Nightwish. 💪💪💪
You need to check out the video of him doing the drum cam version of this for a special session with drummers.
Below you can see a drum cam and also Kai talking about the techniques and time signatures used.
ua-cam.com/video/tbb8m3wNXbs/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/BGMbHHgga18/v-deo.html
And next to react these two songs:
Wintersun - Time (TIME I Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios) REMASTER ua-cam.com/video/4UMwLxFNKS0/v-deo.html
Wintersun - Land of snow and sorrow - Live rehearsal @ Sonic Pump Studios ua-cam.com/video/cZB6JVllJSg/v-deo.html
Kai is a beast on the kit!
You can also check out “Yours is an Empty Hope” live at Wembley 2015 he’s got many parts for drum fills on this song
Thanks Paul! I'm super excited to watch that one with how much its been requested. Can't wait to see a vid of him playing live with Nightwish!
Kai Hahto drumcam from the same song! ua-cam.com/video/tbb8m3wNXbs/v-deo.html
As a Nightwish fan I love Jukka on drums because he pounds the kit for accents and entertains more. Technically, I have to admit that Kai is a beasty metronome and his posture seems to be a lot healthier.
For drum studies, I love them both.
Cheers from Germany 🤘
Kai needed to switch to alexander style of ergonomics as a solution to his back problems... and his posture allows him to play any genre of music at high level efficiency, hence his aim to play drums as long as he lives...
I can't believe I forgot to bring this up! I agree! The posture difference is quite noticeable. I must say sometimes after a few songs, I start to slouch a bit myself!! Thank you so much Sandra!
@@IronSmokeLTD I think these are definitely the benefits of a reaction channel for you (and others) as a young aspiring drummer: not only watching their possibilities on the kits, also seeing how to achieve them without ruining your health.
Another awesome example is Dan Prestland of ne obliviscaris who shares a few drum cam pieces on his channel though I think you should start with a live performance of the whole band: ua-cam.com/video/rNuVdsx7qJY/v-deo.html
Jukka have most perfect view watching Floor everytime. I if on his position will have insomnia too.😅😅 I love them both and all and trying very hard to love Kai on NW.
It's a drummers endurance test for sure, especially being technical and fast.
There are some really good drumcams and clinic videos with kai.
He's a monster and a lovely guy as well 😁
I said before Kai the human metronome! The only thing that moves is his arms and legs lol he is so great ! I seen Nightwish on May in Massachusetts for the first time it was simply amazing! 🤯🥁 unfortunately as Americans we don't get exposed to this great music .
I'm not a jealous person naturally but I just found Floor with Nightwish a few weeks ago and now I'm jealous of anyone who has seen them live recently or is about to soon.
And yes, the U.S. is missing out. Great and real talent is being stifled here and I hate it.
Was at that same show. They are so tight live. Kai is a beast on drums and everyone in the band so talented. Was like 8 feet from Floor so my attention was hard to break from her 😂
Greetings from Finland, thanx for the video, IT was fun to watch 🙂
😁🇫🇮❤️🎼✨💙🤘
Only from 🇫🇮, metal Music capital 🤘✨🎶👍
Oooh... Try out Blind Guardian. Bet you haven't heard them either. They're like Nightwish -- long timers, sturdy as hell, Distinctive, HUGE following outside U.S., Sings in English, Impeccable. Here's a link to "Bard's song" and "Valhalla" performed at Wacken 2016. This is a top tier live video -- sort of like "Ghost Love Score" is for Nighwish. AMAZING audience response. Link: ua-cam.com/video/i-IcX_bccFc/v-deo.html .
I like your reactions I've only seen a couple but looking forward to more..... So you should really check out a band from Sweden called sabaton...... They are very high energy and their concerts are insane....... And the drummer of sabaton happens to be floor jansen's husband........Hannes Van Dahl.......👍😁
Yeah. Kai is okay. LOL!
Wintersun is a great band and it speaks volumes that two members are now in Nightwish, the premiere Finnish metal band. If you want to hear a similar track from Nightwish, only much shorter, check out "Master Passion Greed": ua-cam.com/video/hBTRq2Kgt3Q/v-deo.html
It has never been performed live as it was a cathartic exercise for the band following Tarja's departure, that doesn't need to be repeated. The song is aimed at her husband who the band blames for the breakup.
Jukka's double kick work is really worth the listen.
This one was sick! Stay tuned and keep an eye out in the Community tab! I regularly have polls and updates on the channel!!!! THANK YOU EVERYONE!
you can watch the drumcam for this song which is fairly accurate to this performance:
ua-cam.com/video/qZgASzmUkLU/v-deo.html
Kai's working on a book "The Lost Eyebrows -- One Drummer's Quest."
thank you for your insightful analysis - very much appreciated :)
The change up after the blast beats, Kai plays 3/4 over a 4/4 tempo (really amazing syncopation). His blast beats went over two minutes which is a workout for sure. Now Kai plays and the bass player Jukka play in Nightwish.
This song is just a giant flex :) and an awesome one at that
Just for yourself, take a look at Kai on the Roland TD-50 electronic kit. Yes, it's a promo for Roland, but it shows a little of his diversity. It's a short video, less than 3 minutes but well worth a watch. ua-cam.com/video/EvSTZhDXpKo/v-deo.html
There is a Drum Camera from this song played by Kai Hahto in YT "Pearl Artist Kai Hahto/Wintersun - Sons Of Winter And Stars Drum Cam @ Nosturi, Helsinki 13.10.2012" - Cannot see the legs, but hands and fills and symbal hits etc. check it out, in private if you want. Also others, search by "drum cam kai hahto".
Kai has also some drumcam shots from his Wintersun performances if you want to watch just his drumming. He is awesome.
There are too many bands and songs out there to hear them all, glad we could share this one with you as you clearly enjoyed them. So much more to discover, so please continue!
It might not make a good video for the channel, but check out the album (and live videos) from the band Taphos from the Netherlands (album is "Come, Ethereal Somberness"). Drummer is insane.....dude never had access to a double kick pedal or something, because he plays double bass parts by doing a blast beat on his one kick and a floor tom. Crazy stuff.
Yes, just subbed😊 You are the 1st drummer reactor who's channel I subbed, I liked this one - you got your own and honest way.. Keep up..👋
More Kai Hahto:
Kai Hahto Playing Obey with Rotten Sound - ua-cam.com/video/SHoY51VCluI/v-deo.html
kai hahto playing a cover of meshuggah´s WAR - ua-cam.com/video/XtIzctherZc/v-deo.html
Kai Hahto performing Wintersun - Sons Of Winter And Stars (Drum Playthrough) - ua-cam.com/video/tbb8m3wNXbs/v-deo.html (watch that left leg at 4:40)
Legend says, that Tomas Haake (Meshuggah's drummer) himself called Kai a beast after watching that video. Some say, that even Tomas can't play it himself, and that Meshuggah haven't played that live. Unfotunately that video quality won't do justice for Kai. It would be awesome to see him playing it with a good sound, because that song is just sick on the drums.
So many great drum clinic and drumcam videos. For example Kai with Jaska Raatikainen from Children Of Bodom. Jaska has also been one of my favorite drummers since late 90's. Very creative and I always loved how well he fitted to COB.
Kai is jist a beast on drums, total machine, his timing is always flawless and his blastbeats are off the chart, the guitars are so heavy in places then beautiful and harmonious in others, Jukkas bass is always on point as well, They have produced a couple of these live in studio videos, also Kai has done a live drum playthrough elsewhere. Kai and Jukka are now also fulltime members of Nightwish and you need to see the Hellfest set
"Time"!
Fab to see a drummers reaction and joy.
Meshuggah Clockwork and Bleed
Drumcam Thomas Haake
Kai has video of his drumming for this song also a very neat warm up video. For Nightwish's recent live concerts he added several toms to be able to play the drum solo/fill for Tribal. He is left-handed but uses a right-handed set up. He is a very respected drum tutor.
Hi Ironsoke, glad to see you took the Wintersun 'turn'. They're good but so little material. Loved your comments..... hey, I was sweating too and I was only watching!...Lol
Now that you've seen both Nightwish and Wintersun, check this one featuring Tuomas and Kai : Darkwoods my Bethroded ua-cam.com/video/NtU4v_u7pUs/v-deo.html If you thought Kai was fast in Wintersun, this is way faster.
Or Time, The Forest That Wheeps, Land of snow and sorrow 🤠🇫🇮❤️
Kai is an awesome drummer, the "human metronome" they call him.
Indeed "Devil and the deep dark ocean" is a badass song from NW. Great you are interested in European bands. We have many awesome bands here. As a drummer, you will also LOVE the song Sancta Terra from Epica (Also Dutch female singer and 2 of Floor's former bandmembers) She sings with Floor, but you will love the drumming too.
Don´t know if you saw it already but if not .. since you´re drummer check out Dark Funeral - Vobiscum satanas drum cam video of Dominator .. there you can see/hear why his nickname is Dominator one of the fastest drummers out there
I now see you got to them. You will get to "Time" eventually. Just another level. Love the breakdown on the drum work from Kai, he deserves the attention. Your channel your choices enjoy your journey.
Now you need to search him playing this live by himself..... It's worth it....
Hey my man great reaction 🤘 you got to react to Routa pt 2 or The flood by wolfheart. Great band. Kind regards 🤘
Listening they song Loneliness 🙏🏻 hello to you from Finland summer 🤠🇫🇮❤️
I enjoy you commenting a bit more on the drumming now. Well done, keep it up,
I'm getting a little bit more comfortable now! Thank you so much Andre!!
Watch the video Kai Hahto performing Wintersun - Sons Of Winter And Stars (Drum Playthrough) by moricoon creator where only Kai is shown! there is fire!
Evgeny from Slaughter to Prevail is insane. Demolisher is mind-blowing.
I have always the best time when somebody as drummer tries this. Ofc with learning and doing map of it would help. I can play drums but luckily i don't need to do this.
Might want to check out drummers like Chason Westmoreland and Reno Killerich (sorry if I butchered his last name). The latter absolutely destroys with Hate Eternal at some place called the London Garage. Crazy shit.
John Longstreth too, btw.
Kai's drum clinic of this is sick. Filmed on a potato but still worth a watch in your spare time. Great reaction.
Does a drummer need to go to a gym after that? Tuomas Holopainen (Nightwish keyboardist) said in an interview that they had an rather annoying backstager. So the drummer " grabbet his neck and carried him out", LOL
Now that you have seen the northern Jukka Nevalainen and Kai Hahto, maybe we should check the southern hemisphere. Aquiles Priester from Namibia (but moved to Brazil when he was 6) is more expressive than Kai, and more technical than Jukka. Seems like a nice middle ground: ua-cam.com/video/dQsCulwCrvQ/v-deo.html
Hi, great reaction
See here for more details about the more complex stuff that Kai Hahto does in this song:
Licks and Tricks with Kai Hahto
ua-cam.com/video/BGMbHHgga18/v-deo.html
As a wintersun fun i would also recommend u to check songs like "Time" , "Land of snow and sorrow" , "The forest that weeps" by Wintersun. Great reaction, keep the good work up sir!
IronSmoke LTD home of the cat queen with the unicorn throne.
You should check out Kai's Licks & Tricks video where he breaks down different sections of this song it is very interesting.
The song "Time" is worth checking out, too, from the same rehearsal.
You should check out SLAUGHTER TO PREVAIL - OUROBOROS DRUM PLAYTHROUGH by Evgeny Novikov Good stuff .
I think you missed the part where he plays hihat with his left foot *while* playing fast double kick. See here for more clear example: ua-cam.com/video/tbb8m3wNXbs/v-deo.html
Whit Love form Finland!
Kai Hahto is the new Neil Peart.
I'm not drawn to scream singing but this was so intriguing and loved the harmonies, rythm, orchastration, etc. Cool!
Do you know Blind Guardian? If you don't, please react to The Bard Song & Walhalla @ Wacken, it's on the same video 😁
The camera looks way better dude!
It's getting a little better each time! Thanks for watching!!
I get what you're saying about blast beats. There needs to be a certain amount of swing to it or else it sounds like a machine, in the bad way.
Also, if you really like cymbal accents, there is a band called Brymir that just released an album/single called "Voices In The Sky" and their drummer is a disciple of Kai Hahto. You should check that track out. The accents during the chorus will make your panties wet. Plus it's just a banger of a tune. It doesn't show the drummers full chops technically, but that's not what the song calls for. There are other Brymir tracks with blast beats and faster double bass but hey, gotta start somewhere and might as well hit what's fresh.
Thank you! It's hard to explain sometimes but I'm glad you got it! More coming soon!
Meanwhile, at 23:14, we got some Bill the Cat going on……
They get too comfortable sometimes! Thank you for watching!
🇬🇧 Norfolk strapped in and ready to go my favourite Kai in Nightwish is yours is an empty Hope live at Buenos Aires, the drummer and bass guitarist are both in Nightwish
Thanks for watching 😁
ya should check drum cam too :)
Check out Bruno Valverde - Black Widows Web
Since you are a drummer I hope you have seen "A brief case" by SAGA.
Next reactiona man? With your wife,enjoy :)
Wintersun, my favorite band of all time. You should check out Fleshgod Apocalypse - "No" live version where Eugene Ryabchenko sure shows his skills :)
you thanked nightwish fans for all the hits, and the next sentence implies you're gonna keep making videos...you go man, I guess myself and other nightwish fans would love to hear "I'll be doing nightwish and other good videos." the worst kept secret online is if you want hits, play nightwish. what I'm saying is now you have some hits. don't forget about NW or its fans. new reactors are usually inundated with NW info given by the fans.use us to further your channel. don't screw us over by not playing NW. OK, nuff said. Kai and Jukka are worlds apart as drummers.even Marco said so in an interview. Kai is better than he was when he started in NW. they're both great drummers!
Believe me, I have ENDLESS ideas right now! Nightwish will not be forgotten and will continue to have a place on this channel as well as in my personal life. They introduced me to the symphonic metal genre including this band Wintersun. I am happy to be a newfound member of the Nightwish Army, views or no views, I am super excited.I hope you stick around for the ride! Thank you so much for the feedback Jerry, it's greatly appreciated!!
Some of the things Kai do here didn't survive the mixing, it's easy to say you can play it but try 🙂
Here you can see what he does better: ua-cam.com/video/tbb8m3wNXbs/v-deo.html
Definitely! What I should have said is I could probably play a few of the rolls/fills he plays but nothing about what he does is easy at all, even for experienced drummers! Just the endurance alone and the skill to stay on time throughout all of the transitions/tempo changes, while still keeping the writing interesting and unique is extremely impressive. A true master of his craft.
So... when may we expect your cover of this?
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🤣🤣 If I start now, maybe 100 years! He's awesome. I absolutely love da fast feet!!! Thank you!
#VicFirth SD1 General my fav ❤
It tends to hold up a little longer than it's Pro-Mark peer! Thank you!!!
kai is phenomenal
Hey dude, I'm enjoying your reactions. The obvious next video to do from Wintersun is "Time" from the same Sonic Pump studio session. It's another long track with virtuoso guitar and bass playing and Kai working his ass off behind the kit. It has more of an anguished emotional vibe as opposed to the battle cry vibe of Sons of Winter and Stars, allowing Jari to use more of his vocal range. I personally think it's their best song, and an underappreciated metal classic really.
Aside from that, here's a couple of drum cam recommendations that might be good material for your channel if you haven't seen them yet:
MGŁA@Mgła-Exercises in Futility V -Darkside-Brutal Assault 2019 (Drum Cam) - very creative cymbal work
Trivium - "Betrayer" (Alex Bent Drum Playthrough)
Copper Wasp play through | Aric Improta | Night Verses
Danny Carey | "Pneuma" by Tool (live in concert)
Keep up the good work! Subbed.
I WOULD SO LOVE TO PNEUMA, but it wouldnt be a genuine FIRST REACTION. Though there is SO MUCH to break down in that video! Thanks Antti!
Kai Hahto aka The Human Metronome :D
Hi, i discovered your channel recently and liked you and your reactions a lot.
Just a short question: are you familiar with the Bands Jinjer and Meshuggah?
I have definitely heard most of the hits from Meshuggah and just a few from Jinjer, but it's been a while! Thanks for watching Andre!
ua-cam.com/video/IxpKyaZRd6o/v-deo.html Kai's YT channel: check his "Meshuggah: WAR" cover. And of course other great vids
Kai is awsome
Here is the raw very unforgiving audio performance of the same song by Kai. You get far better visual on what this wizard is doing during this song. During the slow part he just improvises which is not part of the original song.
ua-cam.com/video/tbb8m3wNXbs/v-deo.html
If you cramp up at Kai's drumming, then you should check out the Norwegian Symphonic Black Metal band, Dimmu Borgir.
Here they play at home turf in Oslo, Norway with full orchestra and choir:
ua-cam.com/video/L_mqQJbp1q4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=AEON
That drummer's blast beat is completely of the charts. (more so in other songs than this, but this is one of my favourites)
I saw them at a festival this summer. Epic
Ha, ha, you shouldn’t have held out so long on your wife’s suggestion of Ghost Love Score! Wife’s ALWAYS KNOW BEST! I left you a message this morning about Kai on your Storytime reaction, interested to see your thoughts.
Glad you liked it.... I like Wintersun, but they aren’t Nightwish, the difference? A song vs a musical experience. He must like it better too, he has been with NW 8 years now. 🤘💥💥
I think you need to do some fleshgod apocalypse
This is heave. Song that has never been played live: "Master Passion Greed".
Anyway, I hope to learn at least something about the drums. During my Soviet childhood the only music, apart from choirs, was pop. Not bad, because songs had to be approved not only by the Communist party, but also by the conservatory, however... Then came the singing revolution and songs (songs got heavier), rock on bones disappeared - no need to record foreign music on x-ray pictures. And I finally found metal, our own Skyforger, though I did not paid much attention to the music, even in the performance of Kurbads (metal+national ballet troupe). And then I found Nightwish. By accident.
@@ievazagante5527 WOW! I hope to continue reacting as well as discussing drums and techniques in future videos! Thank you so much for watching!
There's a cat in the background.
So this main singer has one lung btw.
And, smtg different
Jinjer: Mediator ua-cam.com/video/qG_ylwHJK6k/v-deo.html
Drum cam ua-cam.com/video/k6Xoipsd22E/v-deo.html
PLEASE don´t watch if never seen - do a reaction!!! Wanna see!