One of the Best RX 5700 XT PCBs: AMD Reference Analyzed
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- AMD overbuilt its reference RX 5700 XT PCB and set the benchmark for other high-end cards to try and meet. This video talks about why.
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The AMD RX 5700 XT Reference PCB manages to be one of the best RX 5700 XT VRM and PCB designs overall, albeit lacking in cooling and accessories (like multi-BIOS). Many of the high-end RX 5700 XT cards, like the Nitro+, end up as "sidegrades" of the reference model by AMD. This video explains why.
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Will you do an analysis on the MSI 5700XT Gaming X? maybe even a short one since you are probably getting bored with all the 5700XT's? :p
Who wouldn't use the reference for water cooling anyway it's the cheapest.
And easiest to find waterblocks for
@@Tallnerdyguy yeah that too
because the high end custom cards, like the Strix and Aorus, are binned GPUs
There are some pretty sick aftermarket PCBs though (not necessarily for the 5700XT, haven't kept up on that card).
Hey Gek Just get an Anniversary edition.
Buildzoid recently said people like his voice. Now that I think about it, yeah I really do like his voice
It's like a weird, unlikely tech ASMR.
Can't work out what country he's from with that accent? UK?
I deed, I have a playlist specificly made for long Buildzoid videos to have in the background while working and sorting out various things... well full disclosure, he shares this playlist with Wendell from Level1Techs.
When he says "bios." Gets me...
nice to see my choice of water-cooling the reference card worked out
Honestly, it's silly to use anything else. I looked at the return policy of the reference cards and found out Asus changed the policy so regardless of what cooler you use on the card they will take it back as long as you didn't fry it.(removing the stock cooler and water-cooling it doesn't void the warranty.) I went and purchased the Asus reference 5700xt the next day. I'm water-cooling for aesthetic purposes so the cost of that isn't a factor for me.
AMD reference PBCs are underrated. The Vega 56 Nano PCB is another example of a good reference design from AMD.
Most of the VEGA 56/64 had to be decent quality to sustain the high heat and voltage, had fond memory undervolting it :D
Pretty much anyone in the know has long known AMD reference pcb's were top, even for their cheaper Polaris offerings. It was Nvidia who made pretty meh reference boards in the past.
Neither have made boards as bad as the cost cutting 3rd parties do.
One thing I found lacking in all AMD reference cards is the noisy inductors. R9 Nano was the worst so far. Maybe 5700 XT is better.
It's probably not related to PCB, but to parts used. (Albeit smaller multiple inductors would help.)
Not too much can be done about these though.
@@AstralS7orm R9 Nano is a wildly undersized PCB for a very power hungry GPU. It's impressive they ever got those things out the door in that footprint. The Fury X I have is very quiet once I got a hold of the 'updated' AIO with the non-screamer pump and I have it under a full cover block now. I run it at 330W draw and the inductors are still pretty quiet. I remember looking at the Nano PCB and the VRM was 1/3 the size IIRC.
I was pretty sure smaller inductors whine more than bigger ones.
There's a reason why most of the high end Radeons only got actual custom PCBs in limited and expensive form. The Fury X only got one real custom board and it was Asus, and it was scary money. R9 290X/390X or the rare X2 editions, same type of deal.
I water cooled this exact card, Sapphire reference blower style. Top notch results, especially now with the newest drivers
The SMD aluminum polymer capacitors in the back of the 50th Anniversary edition are fully populated and also noticed the SoC is 1200mv vs 1050mv of the standard edition, and also in bios the 50AE shows as 5700XTX
Best part about AMD is their reference cards. I watercool so when I buy Nvidia I have to shop for a better PCB than reference. Reference in Nvidia world usually means cheap. In AMD land, however, you can buy the cheapest card and get the best version for watercooling. It's nice.
On top of that the mounting spacing has been the exact same for every AMD card I've owned. I've had my water block on a 5850, a 7850, a 7870 XT, an R9 290, and now my 5700 XT. All without having to mess around with adapters, it just fits.
@@K31TH3R would you say that it "just works"?
@@Moshenokoji Yes. (Card flies out of computer spinning off into the horizon)
Buildzoid analysed the Nvidia 20 series reference board. He concluded it left no stone unturned.
@@K31TH3R Better yet: You can do the same with most air coolers as well!
Especially useful for those that want a RX5700 toxic edition.
Now i feel REALLY good about my purchase.
@v KEITH v do the washer's mod and life is good with it being under 55°C at 47% Fan speed
@v KEITH v yup.. water cooling is the next step.
For now i did undervolt it and tweaked the fan profile to a reasonable RPM.
No shame my friend
$1 says AMD uses Buildzoid videos to train their own junior engineers
So, are you going to give everyone in here a dollar, or how does this work?
@@Mr_Wh1 no, he just has a rare talking $1 bill.
@@givemeajackson I'll buy that for a dollar!
jeez still learning about this stuff and you just help a crap tonne!
27:08 tiny correction - "and then if you look at the reference cards"
love my 5700XT and the performance out of this card is actually really good! the only issue i have with it from a person that owns it perspective is....the drivers just aren't there yet....I'm crashing on games that aren't crashing on my Nvidia card...which is why i never really sold it just in case! games like FFXV, Far Cry 5/New Dawn...Division 2 all have crashing issues with these cards that just need to be fixed...sucks i gotta revert back to Nvidia because the drivers are just...well they work lol! I do want the XT to be a good card and i am sure it will be in time.. its lame a lot of games have issues just running when they don't with team green...
Nice summary.
Are you sending feedback reports specific to the games back to the manufacturer (which one is it?) I am thinking of getting the Msi or sapphire since no other options here.
AMD drivers aren't there but I still would support them as much as possible otherwise team blue and green would just rob everyone from their position.
@@Xeno8086 the same reason im rocking a radeon VII :)
@@Xeno8086 exactly!! i have to! its a few games not all have the issue and its due to some of the options AMD has in its radeon settings that conflict with other drivers on the PC i am sure like one example was i couldn't have my logitech C20 pro and blue yetti mic plugged in while gaming because them two would cause stutters in gaming when in use..unplugged them and the stutter issues were gone!? and just crashing in division 2 and FC games and stuff that i have reported to the dev and AMD, since we pay good money for these cards and want to play the games we already have bought! and i know it wasn't thermals because i kept my card around 65 70C which is nowhere near failure at all... just little hitches and bugs here and there that when the Drivers mature I'm sure it will be fine, that's the thing to Nvidia has a good share of the market in the PC gaming sector so a lot of games are tailored around their architecture unfortunately..like basically don't turn on any gimpworks stuff like hair and shadowlibs...because it totally bogs AMD cards completely but not as much on an Nvidia card of course..I also have the 50th anniversary reference design like in this video..so i am sure AIB cards as well as that duel fan Sapphire would be a good buy for sure! especially for keeping the card on the cooler side while gaming!
AMD drives/Navi are very sensitive to RAM instability, particularly the TRFC timing. When I first got my system and was getting a feel for it, I had driver crashing issues/flickering screen, and Wattman resets. My RAM passed memtest, but it turned out the TRFC setting, which I used from Ryzen Dram calculator, was set too low. After raising my TRFC to 550, all of my issues vanished. I've since lowered it to 490 (Ryzen Dram calc suggested 448) and have a rock solid system. Check your RAM settings, consider raising voltage a little, and increasing TRFC timing.
@@K31TH3R ahh! interesting! i'll have to look into that! i also did a memtest and my ram is good as well! running 3200mhz Corsair Pro, im guessing the TRFC would be directly in bios on startup correct? I am just running a XMP profile on mine, what voltage would you recommend? My system specs are
MOBO:MSI X470 Pro Gaming Carbon
CPU:Ryzen 2700x/240mm DeepCool AIO
RAM:3200mhz Coarsair Pro DDR4
PSU:EVGA Supernova 1000w 80+ Gold
Awesome man ty, I bought the asrock reference an flashed to xt. And threw a waterblock on it. And it works. Damn good now. Amazing how high the clocks go now with a xt bios and the ppt tool. Love it
what clocks are you getting?:p
@@St0RM33 max ive seen was 1958cclock and 950mhz on mem
@@jimsinnovations2737 can u OC it to 2000?
@@brazilpaes ya but i dont hit it very often
Im seeing 2050-2100 with a real XT and PPT mods under a Bykski full cover block and simply raising limits with more power tool, I havnt pushed it as far as possible because I simply dont need the performance
Truth is this card aggresivly downclocks when it doesnt need the power... its amazing to see it pushing 1440p and dropping to ~60 watts when its not rendering anything too difficult.
Im extremely happy with it. At 30-35c ambients year round, ths waterblock keeps it under 60c junction temp under load, memory and vrm are also kept in check cos the block covers amd contacts every chip and vrm on ths board.
Using my trusty old Swiftech D5 pump and a Bykski AM4 cpu block on a Ryzen 7 3700x in the same loop with 37mm thick 360 copper radiator everything runs really cool.
2 takaways, bykski is both cheap and good.
AMD reference 5700xt board is extremely good and as good as any AIB once you slap a $75 ish block on it.
Aliexpress is cheap for bykski. Dont pay double elsewhere.
The explanation you gave took me down through a rabbit hole i couldn't get out for more than 2 days.Thank you so much for doing this and putting an effort into it.
I have one XFX Blower, i pushed the card to 420w without a problem and with the blower!
1.37v, GPU 72ºc at TimeSpy, 420w, VRMs at 65º and memory at 72ºc
the ref XT PCB is a massive beast, for me, the better ref pcb ever made
That's awesome. I have pushed a modded sapphire 5700 to 300watts. it runs insainley good but it also ramps over 80c insainley fast, and even when lowerd to 200watts. Not sure what cooler to upgrade it with.
Appreciated all your content on 5700xt, buildzoid. Personally, I cant wait for your analysis on MSI Gaming X one so I just go and bought it 2 days ago. Great card so far. =)
Now I have to find a decent, cheap water block! Thanks for the review!
The reference card sounds like it's the best build. People get the ID-Cooling VGA120 AIO solution for the card!!! It's cheap, just get some good ramsinks too though.
Does it fit the reference 5700?
Hey Steve I love these videos. can I suggest you stitch multiple pictures to avoid what I would call parallax bluriness? the details on the far edges start to blur a bit. I mean , the video is already damn beautiful , might as well go the extra two feet.
I debated between liquid cooling the AMD rx 5700 xt 50th anniversary editon or the Asus Strix rx 5700 xt keeping it on air. Ended up with the Strix, I may of won the silicon lottery because it hits 2050+ mhz without manual oc with temps in high 60c. Also I don't know if it matters with gddr6 but the reference pcb has Samsung memory. Most all others are Micron including the Asus Strix.
It's more that Asus was generous with the where they locked the frequency, as Asus would be prone to do on a Strix card. These cards are more bound by where they get locked by the manufacturer than the GPU "lottery". I doubt you would get much out of Wattman but with PPT, you could probably squeeze a few more ponies out of it...not that they would count for much in real world performance.
Holy shit . this is pure joy.
and I don't even have an AMD gpu .
the internet needs more of this.
is he using a mouse or those wacom bamboo tablets thingies?
This is pretty sweet to understand the workings of the GPU. Hell it may be my OCD talking but I want to solder those SMD Polymer Capacitors to fill those gaps :p. I think they sell for like $2 each, give me 20mhz more overclock! lol
Unsure if you guys read the comments section, but here goes nothing.
All of this seems fascinating, yet I don't understand a word of all that jargon. I also don't understand its functional significance. And that's coming from someone who's been watching other tech channels (namely LTT) for around 8 years. I'm not a CS or electrical engineer, but I WANT to understand all of these stuff. This is why I keep coming back to your channel. It's clear that you're the only ones who provide content within this category, yet I can't understand most of it. Me (and the thousands of others in my position) could spend hours going through the manual work to learn all of this.
A more attractive option would be to have a reference video (or a video series) explaining the technicalities of all that jargon to regular Joes like me. What each of these components are, how they're build, what they do, what the different options are, how one manufacturer could improve on their power efficiency... etc. A "The making of Hardware" series would do wonder for people in my situation. I understand your case reviews, some of the other stuff on this channel, but for the most part, I'm just left scratching my head to what all this means. That's the only thing preventing from coming back, or watching all your vids. They're extremely high quality, I just don't understand them.
Thanks for the analysis, great fan of both your and Stephen's work.
Will you test flashing RX 5700's to 5700 XT's? As that seems to be the best price to performance right now not to mention testing the longevity of it if it's viable.
But you lose warranty, if you don't have a dual bios card to reflash for warranty
@@Claud1995 I'd understand that. Though you could reflash the bios on a pc with an iGPU. I would like to see all non XT's flashed to XT variants to see if they all can handle the extra voltage and power.
this would be a real service to us gamers looking for the best price to performance.
@@JudasMugensson Flash + undervolt should be the best deal for 5700!
I just went from a 5700 reference that I flashed to an xt. And ended up getting an actual xt. It's not even close a real xt runs much better.
The 50th Anniversary Edition has all the capacitor spots populated.
Amd: Hey you, go design a board for our GPU as quickly as you can. Don't worry about optimizing at all, just the quickest you can make it work.
Interesting how AMD's cheap blower design would lead to the ecosystem we have now; if you want a good air cooled card you can get a decent one for about $20 above MSRP, and if you're watercooling, you can buy the reference and it's one of the better ones electrically. I just never thought I would be glad AMD made a $400 blower card in 2019
AMD had to leave room for partners to work with. If they had this PCB with a Strix level cooler. AIB partners wouldn't have much they can do.... given AIBs make motherboards for AMD chips, its good business to toss them a cookie.
AMD clearly showed with the PCB design they could make a crazy good reference card if they wanted to.
$75 waterblock is a perfect match for this PCB
hey, they didnt put another oversized regulator in the lower left corner ! They started cheaping out, maaan!
(i'm always the most curious on the pcb parts where there are pads but no parts...what was cut and we did not get...)
Will you do an analysis on the MSI 5700XT Gaming X? maybe even a short one since you are probably getting bored with all the 5700XT's? :p
Maybe they had tons of the higher quality stuff left over from all the Radeon 7 cards they didn't make?
hmm i wonder if the board could be reworked for like a NANO type card im sure they could take off about 3 inches of the pcb and sell it as a water cooled version
Got hyped to buy this card for ulterior modding and then comes the "No switch bios"... why AMD why !?
I don't like watercooling for purely subjective reasons. What would be, in your opinion, the best three 5700 XT custom cards?
The RX5600 have been announced can't wait for GN to get one and test it
source?
5500....
are you a time traveller?
The recurring theme of ‘this is too expensive, none of the custom cards do it that way’ raises the question: is that blower cooler so cheap that it is still legitimately cheaper than the AIB designs, or is the profit margin on the reference cards just smaller?
I wonder how the reference performs with an Arctic Accelero Xtreme III/IV. Been seeing a lot of people using these coolers on their 1080Tis.
terrible, because you cannot properly cool the memory. Mounting plate from accelero covers it. I tried it myself
I used Accelero IV and it was a peice of work; had to grind off some fins to make it work, and had to use aftermarket ram heatsinks. Looks ugly but cools great. No overclocking improvement.
Super informative, thanks. So if I want to get a reference card it comes down to what memory each brand uses, and how the memory would overclock.
I have said this a lot since July. but I am glad I got a reference 5700xt.
Sounds like the card was developed for a higher performance than the 5700. One reference board for multiple levels of gpu.
The cpu side has used the chiplets for both cpu and chipset so unified architecture maybe their focus. Unified architecture would be cheaper overall than having multiple cards for their each of their products.
Quick interjection, looking at that photo of the PCB... somehow the PCIe connector and it's fingers look so crude to me now somehow...
Recently I've been dealing a lot with USB-C, TB3 and NGFF connectors, but have also been dealing with old PCI-X and AGP slots... somehow this photo strikes me as... I dunno, 'archaic'?
Cooled it with ek phoenix module and bykski water block, nothing goes above 60 degrees after that.
What if I'm using it with the blower cooler? Is it still worth it? I really like the reference cards looks.
Good PCB is good PCB. I've been using the reference since it came out. My advice, slap it in, turn up power limit, set a somewhat aggressive fan curve in wattman (as aggressive as you can get before the sound bothers you), and profit.
Just to confirm, does blower style cooler from msi, asus, shapphire, etc..have the same pcb quality as this one. Sorry for noob question.
Yes, they are just re branded AMD card
They all buy the card from AMD, stick their logo on it then sell it to you. In other words, regardless of which brand you pick they're all identical. The only consideration is if you think the $10 extra Asus charge is worth the longer warranty. Otherwise just pick whichever is in stock or whichever brand looks nicer in your opinion.
Can you make a video about how to add the missing aluminum polymer capacitor to the back of the 5700 xt reference card?
World Hello
I think the 50th anniversary edition has the full layout. I remember seeing a reddit post about it but I’m not sure
@@Shrek_Boi5155 Do you have the link?
World Hello
Here I found the link
www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/dm3uv2/5700xt_50th_anniversary_isnt_just_a_base/?
The 50th anniversary is full populated on the back of the board.
I'm water cooling the none XT for fun, it's def smarter to buy a xt with that money. But if you have a aio laying around why not ^^. With ref you can fabricate a little cardboard sheath to act as a blower. Yeah I know not very common. Thanks for the vid, very informative!
Since you theorize that AMD used overkill power delivery because they did not want to have to buy a bunch of different levels of parts, would you say this might be promising for future, higher-end Navi cards?
Can you do the MSI Gaming X PCB next?
Yes! So excited for this video!
This PCB has more or less been discontinued from what I hear. They claim AIBs can still use it in their cards and it's not true, but there no other AIB card that uses the reference design as far as I know.
There are two reference designs for partners. One of them, the non-blower option, is pretty common in partner cards.
@@GamersNexus damn. That could make things confusing. Do water blocks fit both reference designs?
@@eugkra33 if reference design, same layout
This is actually my plan lately, buy a reference RX 5700XT and water-cooled the hell out of it :)
Aliexpress, bykski... their 5700XT block is really well made with nickel copper cold plate,it has contact with every chip on the pcb, everything is covered. Its HEAVY because they didn't skimp on copper. The coldplate looks like it was cnc machined from a 6mm ish thick copper block.
It runs really cool, under 60c with 35c ambient temperatures... so expect it to be better in colder climates.
I highly recommend that block. Its under half the price of EK or corsair with zero difference in performance.
Very happy with mine. Zero hesitation recommending it (& im picky!)
@@martinpalmer6203 Thanks for the inputs my brother. Much appreciated. Enjoy the rest of your week.
So what I'm getting from this is that AMD made a bizarrely good card for the money, just hampered by the cooler.
Any custom air cooling option for reference? Would that be a lot more value that eay
I cant imagine pushing 1.4v to the core. My ref 5700xt hits 1950mhz steady stable at 1.1v. Considering much higher than 2ish ghz it pretty much tops out until the VRAM is OCed going much over 1.2 doesnt make much sense to me, but the memory seems more interesting.
What's your temp?
@@DarkPa1adin At 1.1v? I depends, during Heaven it get's upper 80s on Junction but it's not the stock fan curve. I plan on water cooling it one way or another once I have a little cash. I am interested in the Alphacool Eiswolf they have for it, it supposedly keeps the entire PCB under 70c max even though the water block only directly hits the die since it's covered in what is basically a heatsink. For now, the UV helps with a custom fan curve to keep noise down.
"SOCs", "Rails", "Regulators". Are there any videos explaining what all these parts do?
Also one of the videos I watched said the reference boards are binned first.
after all the reviews now you tell me the best one is the reference? monkaW
Ikr ? So confused
Actually AMD reference boards were always over engineered that's why picked the AE because it has also a high binned chip.
Well you have to look at all the cards to compare them.
Yes, best pcb, worst cooling, but great for waterblocks
@@Tallnerdyguy Actually using the AE. Having downvolt it to 1044mv from 1182mv is fine.
Why then save money on the cooler and make an overkill PCB?
really disappointed that you didn't round the 67W at 420A to 69W. That woud've been nice.
Overkill on the vmem maybe to do with hbm/2/e comptatiblity testing in house.. left over chips used and gddr6 mem for public reference?
Also, with in house, maybe the die was MUCH MORE than what we have.. silicon binning, cutting cu's for market segregation yada yada..
I don't want to retract my question, but, I now don't agree with myself.
Mainly coz it makes more sense for leftover r7 parts to be used and isn't hbm pretty low energy...
I can think of many points. All of which have as much likelihood of being true, or not, as each other.
Though, If I was coming from the dark hole that amd was in, once I've made a design and it works, well, and competes, I may take the hit and use the in house design and make a bit less money just for the sake of making sure when it hits the market it works. No problems.
Waffle waffle..
yeah except the fact that nobody sells this reference version, AMD doesn't ship to my country.
Get yourself a morpheus 2 cooler with this PCB and you are set. (morpheus 2 fits 2 120mm fans)
Doesn't fit per timmy joe
But is the reference design equal quality across all OEM's?
Am I missing something here? Why is a Sapphire 11266-09-20G Radeon NITRO+ RX 570 8GB GDDR5 DUAL HDMI / DVI-D / DUAL DP with backplate (UEFI) PCI-E Graphics Card listed at almost 800 bucks on Newegg?
Could you compare the reference ASUS RX 5700 XT with the AMD-direct PCB?
What is it with AMD building the finest reference PCBs possible and then slapping just the worst cooler on top of it?
I think they're doing it on purpose...
Heh! Nice review! And nice vrm!
Just wondering if amd would have used their Radeon7 cooler in here... that would have been one a heck Great reference card... Also heck expensive, so I can understand why They did not do it... really looking for good water cooled test of this card. So far not very good has been done.
The Radeon VII cooler wouldn't work straight up, because of the memory.
True! But a variant of it could, but yeah it would have needed a complete rework to fit...
@@haukikannel at that point it would have been a 5700XT axial fans cooler, but for the question "would it have worked better with a dual fan cooler? Yes, probably"
In other words if AMD board partners followed the AMD design and didn't cheap out on parts of their cards there would have been no problem at all.
Any chance you could do a brake down of the 50th anniversary edition? Its like 369 on dells website and it is slightly different.
So much praise for the sapphire nitro+ everywhere to the point I got it and now it turns out it's just a middle of the pack ballsucker? Slightly unhappy
But bcuz of the limited OC headroom, nitro+ is the best cooler and you don't need overkill parts
@@DarkPa1adin hopefully you are right.. also yeah, the nitro+ is supposed to OC to 2010 mhz out of the factory, I doubt I will tweak it in afterburner
For someone who is not up to speed, are all 5700 XT reference cards built with the same components? Is this an AMD built card, or one of the makers of reference cards?
Same. The only difference is that some brands stick their name on the fan.
It's pretty obvious that AMD (or Sapphire) engineers rushed out this pcb without removing all those debugging headers and switches. They are using only one type of VRM and controller just because they don't have enough time for coding and testing. There is another interesting design in reference PCB is the empty pads for USB-C and USB-PD power supply. I'm really curious about why AMD cancelled this at the last time.
Actually it takes time to remove the headers and redesign. The early boards went out fast to meet the July seventh date I believe until a new revision of the board could be made. This is a much more common practice than you would think. It basically costs nothing to just not populate those areas of the board. As a reference design the usb headers would have been used for internal testing, debugging, and more in the Prototyping of the board. Also it is extremely common for boards to use the same controllers overall if they work and are reliable enough for the job. It also reduces the complexity of the board design and makes the board faster to manufacture as they can use a cheaper pick and place machine with fewer parts to populate the board.
Come on, it's Gen 1 of this arch 😄 I don't think the 7970 was perfect either
I'm seriously considering the MSI Mech Black OC NAVI RX5700
Is it a good choice? For price in my area, it's up against Power Colour and Red Devil
Buildzoid, is it feasible to cool this card (or a partner card) with a universal gpu block?
Would soldering some of the 'missing' chips help in any way? ie power/heat/stability in crypto-mining?
If you would add chips, do you need to change the bios or will they just work?
Can I use the 100 C6N & 470 75RPY chips from (dead) Vegas?
If that was possible it would be commonly done.
Think there’s a blueprint so you can’t just add in chips . That’s why aib follows closely to the reference card design.
My watercooled Vega 64 died and i was thinking about this rx5700xt. What's better: ref rx5700xt with ekwaterblock or a custom rx5700xt ?
take a sip of ya slimowitz whenever he says "like" ^^.
So who makes a reference pcb with a quiet cooler?
one rail for the fan? is it dumb?
how is it possible for 5700xt to beat vega 64?
I have a question. Do every reference card use the same electronic components regardless the brand? I bought a Sapphire RX5700XT. Do I also have this components shown in the video? Thank you for your Help.
yes, every reference card from different brand is the same.
@@allen15967 thx sir!
@@allen15967 almost...they might use slightly different components, including memory
@@Tallnerdyguy Actually so far every Reference 5700XT uses Samsung GDDR6.
@@SolarianStrike yes, other reference design do not, that was my point
What about Sapphire?
How do all these excellent parts affect performance? I have a watercooled AE card yet my mem OC is very low, 910mhz, and while my core can hover around 2020mhz I cant go any higher even with vcore and power limits mods. It needs incredible power to go any higher which means incredible heat.
So i just found out these cards just straight up don't work for a lot of people. Blue screens, crashing, and bad performance. There's a lot of 5700 content on this channel, and no mention of this? (That i've seen)
Is the pcb on reference cards the same as the XFX thicc 2
When you listen to Buildzoid ramble on for long videos, but you understand
suddenly my reference 5700XT vddci power inductor (R56 1917) has been already repaired ( i assume by the melted plasty on it) and its looks ugly, where can i find a new one?
Id like to ask about those small capacitors on top of the pci lane what the names are or at least where can i find those?
I have a burnt chip and cannot figure out what it is! It is the chip to the left of the 4r7 inductor that is to the left of the middle memory chip. Right under the R56 1913... Any help?!
So I google FDMF3170 and I get $1.8 per unit from On Semi direct from their site. I don't know if this is correct but, do they really need to save $1.8 per unit or is it more an engineering or manufacturing thing?
Hi. I managed to kill my card with water, it's acting now as if it's hasn't got the PCIE cables plugged in. If you possible know, where would be the best spot to start looking for dead components as unfortunately they all appear normal under a microscope, so some testing is going to be needed. Would around the IR357F be the best spot to start? Any fuses on the beasty?
How much VRAM do you think can fit on this card?
so if someone got the capacitors and populated the empty pads they could get more speed? or are the traces not connected to the empty pads?
Try desodering a benched chip from nvidia ref card and put it on the best AIO card and see what happens.
you need a specific stencil and IR soldering station to do this job, i don't think he has these tools..maybe you can do it with hot air but it is more difficult
@@St0RM33 it was just an idea I'd like to see results of. See if nvidia`s bined chips are really that good.. and if they would be better on an AIO board. I know it would be hard to pull off.
Does anyone know the depth of the thermal pads for the memory, VRMs etc, as I have a reference rx 5700xt card that someone has done a bad job of replacing the thermal pads
Anyone have hole spacing for the 2 sets of mounting holes. ? Just checking to see if universal gpu blocks will fit. Wondering if it will work with 53 to 54mm spacing
Can anyone identify the exact specs of the VRMs' inductors "R56 xxxx" ? I have to replace that part and can't find anything specific, there's way too many types and variations of inductors to risk a random 0.56uH inductor.
Too bad the driver quality isn't given the same standard.