Not sure if I reiterated this enough in this video.. but if you decide to flash your BIOS... MAKE SURE ITS FROM THE SAME BRAND/PCB type... for instance.. if you have an OEM/Reference card then make sure its also an OEM 5700XT... if its a 5700 Red Devil, make sure its a 5700XT Red Devil etc... THIS MATTERS as doing another style card COULD brick your video card. DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!
I did it and my PC started violently crashing in some specific games, might be an issue with AMD's abhorrent drivers, but yeah thank god I did a backup
@@ursusemperor Its better to just OC with amds standards so from 1750mhz to 1850mhz I did that a little warmer but I gain few fps and I'm happy without any crashes or errors I won't go further like they did 2100mhz and etc...
@@JonelKingas did this to mine, i can hit 950mhz on memory, 2130mhz core clock, power limit plus 50. runs insanely amazing man, honsetly my benchmarks are close to beating stock xt in alot of games. im sure not everyone will have the same luck but if you undervolt and clock it to around 1950mhz you can get great thermals and performance, mine is a reference version.
One thing I really enjoy about Jay's videos is the real time feel of them. Instead of just showing some charts, specific instructions, and whatnot... he's like... hey let's see if this works, watch our trials and tribulations as we slip into madness. XD
Videos like this we had to make sure to record it as it happened... otherwise if we broke it before we started the video, we wouldnt be able to make a video about it etc. We like to show it as it happens. Those are the kinds of videos I like to watch, so I produce that type of content. Thanks for watching!
@@Jayztwocents Hell yeah my dude. :) Keep doing what you do. Your channel has a very specific tone that is genuine, entertaining, and informative at the same time. The triple threat! :)
That's why I like this channel. Basically, since it was filmed like this, I don't feel bad choosing an XT now for a PC a the office. No way I'm going through this to save some dollars. It was fun to watch the real time line.
@@DerToasti no one wants to play with 30fps on low settings. PC gaming is superior. Also, flashing bios is not a normal thing. If you don't try things like that, PC gaming is simple.
@nune nemaveze just because a gpu is more high end than an other doesnt automatically mean the other is low end . radeon 5700 isnt by any means a low end gpu.
@@Twongz_does_anything Considering the 5700 XT is essentially on par with a 2070's, you're saying the only high end GPU that exists on the market are 2080's? Like, if you were to split the market in three tiers, "low, mid, high," you don't think the 5700XT is in the top 33% of GPU performers? Wouldn't you rank performance against the mean or median averages rather than what's relative compared to the best GPU on the market if you were objective? Otherwise everything is kinda "mid-tier" if you're simply comparing against a 2080, lol.
Saw this and went and flashed mine the same way and then did some tiny overclocking. Went from 4449 to 4902 after flash to 5091 after oc. That’s a 14% score increase! Thanks Jay!
@@zhila5958 I've got a reference 5700 which made it super easy to follow techpowerup's instructions. If you can find the right bios for the xt version of the exact same card it should be nice and easy, but that's the big thing. As long as it's the right bios it is super safe. If it's the wrong one....
Hey, im currently on a 980ti and i really like the 5700 performance especially with the bios flash. But ive been hearing that amd has lot of driver issues. Just as Jay had in the beginning of this video. Have you had any problems and what games are you playing?
@@schwany6703 i dun geddit. I just built my first pc based on half life alyx's recommended specs which called for an rx5700. I was under the assumption it was a high end, or at the very least the higher end mid tier card. Is it not? Did i waste my money?
@@corvidconfidential8826 lmao no you didn't waste your money. 5700 is a really good card. Maybe not high end compared to the 2080ti but definitely high end
Dad : Are ya winning son? Son : No dad. I'm having trouble getting the updated drivers, flashing the bios. Under volting the card. May even need to reinstall windows onto a clean drive. I am not winning dad. I'm tired. Dad : Haha okay son. Dinners ready in half an hour.
@@BlingBoyOto temps barely change tbh. Max I've seen my card get was 75, and it's the red dragon so only a 2 fan cooler. I think before that I'd seen 72
the old Athlon days where you could just use a pencil and bridge the pins on the top of the processor to unlock the multiplier was the go to trick of the time until AMD used a laser to sever the connections. People still managed good overclocks if they tweaked the memory speeds and AGP:PCI bus dividers.
RX 460 to RX 560, + custom memory straps and no power target limitations, burn it to the ground if you want :) Competes with the 1050 and 1050ti for 100$ 4GB Vram in 2016 :)
not all r9 290s could be flashed though. Also the most popular flashes were back in the HD4000 and HD 5000 seires series GPUs. A HD4670 could become a HD4730 100% of the time and a HD4770 could flash to a HD4830 100% of the time. The HD 5750 could be flashed to a HD5770.
Heh, I did a lot of pencil mods on ATI 9500 to make them 9700pros. The "shaved" parts could be reenabled by using a soft graphite pencil to short a couple pins on the PCB then, you you flashed the 9700pro bios and you had a fully functional card that cost twice as much. That was back when ATI was spanking nVidia hard, and there was a massive shortage of 9700pros. Such an amazing card... Then, to quadruple the sale price, you'd flash a Mac ROM, so it could be used in G4 power Macs. ATI even provided all the unlocked flashing tools and a really nice set of drivers for macos and OS X. We were poor students with the most expensive GPUs and computers. Cross flashing cards basically paid for my masters. Anybody here remember strangedogs forum?
i remember the 9700 pro it was a beast, wasnt there also a 9800 pro? i had a ATI 9600 Pro, and AMD athlon 2500+ unlocked to 3200+ ofcourse :) # p4 killer.
The whole high-end 9x00 series were amazing. They completely deleted the competition that existed when they launched, and even the cards NVIDIA brought out to fight them could barely hold their own *at best*. I had a 9700 PRO, then a 9800 PRO that was mostly paid for by a friend buying my 9700 PRO when he saw how much it ruined his GeForce4 Ti.
I remember that with the old 9xxxx series. 9800pro was a great card back then; until Nvidia brought out the 8800Gtx it was top. Around that time AMD were topping the CPU game with faster clocks and better gaming performance. Interesting how things have developed. I don't remember stumbling across that forum but man, I could use a racket like that right now.
This brings back some memories. I've still got my old Sapphire Radeon 9700 Pro that I flashed way back in the day. Man I need to dig that old machine out.
This reminds me of something I did in. Buying a laptop and naturally wanted a gaming computer, but parents wouldn't let me get one for obvious reasons. So I picked a Thinkpad T61p with the Quadro FX570M. Talked about how it's not a gaming card, but would be great for CAD drawings and such. Then when I got to campus, I replaced the FX570M drivers with 8600M GT ones. Big Brain moment.
At first I was dissapointed that my pc had this variant of the card, but now I kind of got attached to it. The build is so aesthetic and it actually has a cool cooling design.
whenever i upgrade i always wipe my drives completely and reinstall windows from scratch so i can make sure nothing fucks up, so i can benchmark my pc while clear and because its fun
unoJustAJ AMD intentionally wanted the screen to go green when it sees Nvidia drivers are still installed. It resembles the puking that the AMD card is experiencing... 😂
I am on 20.1.3 with a 5700XT Red Devil, all seems normal and working. Remember to DDU your old drivers before installing the new ones, I think that helps quite a bit with both AMD and Nvidia drivers.
@sw4gr1d No, the card is not dead, V56 is manufactured with both Samsung and Hynix chips so BIOS must support both, V64 is only manufactured with Samsung chips so Samsung HBM is the only one that the BIOS supports, Hynix memory won't get killed while flashing... it will simply not work and since most Vega 56 models have a dual bios switch(with one write protected), recovering is a piece of cake.
@@Qvik_ Which is more expensive than a reference XT, which is more expensive than an manufacturer's 5700, which is more expensive than a reference 5700. So then you could just buy a reference 5700 and stick an aftermarket cooler on it, turn it into an XT, and you have a super quiet but super powerful 5700 that can beat all but the very best XTs
I flashed my reference 5700. My fans are at max 60% junction temp is 90-95 it only throtles at 110 celcius. yeah its louder but not by much and i get better performance.
This happened around 2008/2009 when AMD acquired ATI, around the time of the Radeon HD 6000 series. The 2GB version of the 6950 could easily be turned into 6970s with a BIOS flash, and AMD fully supported it :)
I got the XFX 5700 a few months ago. I flashed the bios to the XT version, and got about 2.5% increase, but my temps shot up a ton, so I flashed it back.
Yeah I have the same card. The cooler is not sufficient to run as an XT. They used the same exact cooler for the XT versions and it was so bad they quickly made a new model with a better cooler. But they still sell the old Thicc II version that is cheaper. I'm not even gonna try it, I don't have the best case cooling and being in Florida my ambient is less than ideal more than half the year. BTW, I'm curious. Are you running adrenaline 2020 on that card? Each new version seems to be worse for me, I'm getting a black screen while gaming forcing a reboot every 10 minutes or just crashes if I'm lucky. Currently staying at 19.2.1.
Yes but bios flashing allows you to use the latest drivers without having to re do your power play tables and honestly is just as stable in 90% of cards. If you have a dual bios card theres no reason not to try 👍
@@jarrettmaltry6305 no when you bios flash the drivers think your card is a 5700xt. Requires nothing special afterwards to download drivers or anything of that sort
Great, I was finally convincing myself to go to bed since it's 3 am here and then a Jay's video popped up LOL I guess these 15 minutes won't make a great difference in my sleep schedule so here we go :D
Yep, less risk more overclocking also by using more power tool you can edit the fan profile and NOT use MSI afterburner that's known to cause problems but here we are again... ffs Jay.
Modding power tables also doesn't void your warranty. Most vendors don't actually check the BIOS on a dead card, but if they do, your warranty is gone. Don't flash the BIOS, just mod the power tables. Everything you get from a BIOS flash, you can get from modded power play tables. In fact you can get more from modded power play tables than a BIOS alone. This video is bad advice.
You could actually use morepowertool instead of flashing bios especially if your cards dont have dual bios. Morepowertool does just the same thing without the risk of bricking the card.
@@patent5421 No, I had the Polaris cards. I edited bios, memory straps, and did a ton with it. It was awesome. I did end up having to sell it since people were buying them for double their store price and I got a Pascal card, so untweakable by comparison.
@@Jayztwocents thanks boss , im almost sad the first heart i get on a video comment is a critique , been subbed a long time and love the content! *obligatory ass kiss* I've also done some bios flashing and unlocking with ole school amd hard ware.
@@Jayztwocents It's because the music in the back is lofi hip hop. LoFi producers like to add electric hum underneath their music to make it sound like it's played from a shitty record player. Just cut all the sub from it next time if you use this song again.
I noticed it too. I don't think it's the music though, it's still there when all the music cuts because the screen turns green at 4:07 but is gone at 5:12 with music
Yup, I had two reference Gigabyte 6950s with the 6970s BIOS, it was great. What wasn't great was not finding out about bitcoin until after they were no longer profitable to mine on GPUs. I could have become a real life millionaire if someone had told me about them. Made about one hundred with mining Litecoins, but the reference cooler made horrible noise when mining (not gaming though), and my wife was turning the PC off whenever I wasn't around. :/
@@filipealves6602 I sold mine last year. I made a few dollars on it until the software to mine was updated to not recognize the card any more. Became worthless after that. Used so much power for the performance, but was great for its day, and yea I too did the bios flash to enable the additional power.
Gainward gave me bios and bios flash tools when I got my 1070 in 2016, it has a dual bios switch so easily recoverable if you screw it up and the manufacturer officially supported you flashing higher tier bios onto the card.
This makes me remember the time I when I was able to flash my radeon 6950 to a 6970. It actually worked flawlesly and I even sold it later as a 6970, so a win win.
I had problems a few months ago with my Sapphire 5700 when I first installed it too. Each new driver update since then eventually eliminated all of them and it's rock steady now. I'm debating this bios flash as well, but am a little leery because I'm pretty happy with it's performance and don't want to muck it up.
Idk, the drivers seem to have been better lately. Though I remember using my 5700 in Linux for a couple of months after launch, because although I loss a bit of performance using the mesa github drivers at least i didnt have wierd black screen or signal losses or cursor corruption etc. Been back on W10 since December and still have a few issues every once in a while. Atelier Ryza didnt launch for a while. Dark Souls 3 would occasionally hang, Civ V would cause drivers to fail when using DX11. It was a bit laughable to be honest lol
Yep my RX5700XT had driver issues, and still has on Pavlov VR. And yesterday, I was playing games at 100c because the fans didn't start(for some reason). So I had to open MSI afterburner and put the fan speed to 100 to cool the thing down.
@@MrWayne6363 if its the pulse then you have two bioses on it. As long as you dont try to flash both you can always change to the second bios if anything goes wrong and restore your bios
Jay, this is why I watch you. You and GN are the only reviewers showing QUALITATIVE data, or the day to day experience of using the product. Everyone else only shows nonsense like "price to performance," which won't matter literally one second after you boot up your first game. How do you factor broken drivers into price to performance?
Bought an AMD card for the first time since they were... ATI, a 5700XT! HYPE! Well, simply, sadly. No. Just no. I can't quite believe how bad the drivers are, or at least the constant troubles I'm having with it. I'd heard of 'bad AMD' GPU drivers but assumed it was just fanboy smacktalk. Oooh boy! Sadly it's too late to return the bloody thing now as well. Monitor is constantly going into power saving mode or just games crashing. It's actually quite impressive at how shoddy a product it really is. Anyway, rant over. Team green all the way [for the next build :( ] (Super happy with my 3700X though!) EDIT: 13/10/2020 After a few driver updates over the summer months the 5700XT runs brilliantly. No more problems and great performance, with hindsight happy with the purchase and glad AMD turned things around.
Step 1: Google DDU Driver uninstaller Step 2: Download and follow the instructions Step 3: Redownload the latest drivers Step 4: come back and thank me It’s literally that simple as installing and uninstalling I’ve had probs with amd drivers before but 1 or 2 uninstalls fixes it in like 10 minutes
One tip for the losing signal and monitors blacking. Go into Radeon settings and go to global graphics settings. For anti aliasing set it to override games settings with the amd settings. And it makes it happen way less often. I did it and it only happens with specific games under very specific circumstances. Also do not open Radeon settings while running a game it usually trips it
I did that, then did some undervolt (1150mv), downed the clock a little bit to 1930mhz and agressivly change fan profile. I got steady performance and max temperature of 65oC. Mine is reference design
@@jongoodenough3162 All files have extensions, his view just didn't show it. That doesn't mean it's not there, just that his view options don't show the extensions.
Press TAB on a partially typed out filename and both CMD and PowerShell will autocomplete to their best ability. I mess around in CLI for both Win and *Nix, so this helps, IMMENSELY. Hope it helps you too.
Also don't forget that for binning heat can be important. If your cooling solution is better than a dell/hp hot box it is likely to work in your computer and not one of those.
Feels bro. But with the wide spread of performance options in GPUs these days, it's understandable why he'd say that. When the Titan RTX launched, a lot of reviewers were saying that the 2080 is now mid-range.
They got a test bench where who knows what cards were swapped multiple times and several driver versions probable saved in windows, so yeah it might not be just plug and play on that test bench.
This is such an idiotic thing to say - you use your anecdotal evidence to suggest that everyone having any kind of problem is because they are morons. Could it be that you are just a blind fanboy? AMD driver problems are well-documented and anyone saying shit like this is obviously a sheep.
I just rebuilt my gaming pc. From ddr3 and an amd 4130 quadcore to a Ryzen 2600x and upgraded everything. I watched ALL off your videos and Linus's for 3 days. (yours for 2 days and Linus's for only 1, but shhh dont tell him lol) I literally forgot everything pc building wise since it'd been 7 years. I just wanted to say thanks for the awesome videos, I definitely learned a lot! I've been so miserable gaming capability wise, and now Im in love again. Your videos are awesome for beginners, mediate, and even advanced builders. Most UA-camrs\experts, can only teach 1 or the other.
I can't even use any driver newer than 19.7.5 on my RX 580 without getting black screen crashes. AMD drivers are SO TRASH its unreal especially those garbage Adrenaline 2020 drivers
ohh and btw the dumb driver had updated itself to a new trash version and it started the black screen marathon again, so I had to uninstall completely then reinstall 19.7.5 and use Kaspersky's firewall to block the driver from connecting to the internet LOL
@@hircine92h Haven't had a single issue on the wife's 580.. try this though. > Ddu the drivers. Restart the system. Unpack the new 2020.2.1 driver. But don't install. Go into your device manager and update your video drivers. Specify the drivers in amd/2020.2.1/packages/drivers/display/wt6a_inf
Hello! nobody ever talks about this, but could you do a video in your show on safety, distance to sit from the screen, EMF radiations, number of hours spent in front of a PC and stuff like that? Jay you're great, love your show!
AMD was shit so, yeah like Matt said, that's what happen. I recently built a 3900x with a 5700 XT for a PC at the office and my 1+ year old 9900K/2080Ti is still better, even though it was very pricey. Then people don't understand why competition is important, and want Apple to die or hate on Intel etc. You NEED as a customer, competition. Amd drivers are still dogshit.
Recently sold some cards and what I do is take a video starting with the card in the tower, then pan over to desktop with the time/date up, then pan over to GPU-Z and then start Furmark.
@@IamR3D88 the drivers had issues in the beginning and the fe versions were overheating. But rn, they are super value and compare to a 2070s (only performing worse in some games, but also better in others). Let's just hope that the new amd cards wont have the same issues at launch
I bought the 5700 red devil when it launched with the plan to reflash the bios to a 5700XT red devil. It actually worked and mine was able to boost to the same speed at the 5700XT red devil. I wanted a better air cooler and the red devil has a great cooler. I couldn't get the GUI to work, I used the command line instead.
Nicholas Davey ...When a channel has more than 4k subs, it doesn’t do anything to support the channel. It’s just the clicks that count. The only advantage to subbing is to get notifications of new content, but if you watch a channel regularly you get the videos recommended anyway.
@@chudson8453 I've literally had zero driver issues with my RX 580 and 5700xt over the past 2 years. They are regularly updated as well, I hate to say this man but it's probably you.
@@totobyafrica847 nah, the 5700 series causes many problems for some people, most peeps are fine and i bought mine a few days ago, but a mate of mine also had lots of issues and nothing helped. he sent it back and got a 2060s
It's like owning a Tesla and they release an OTA firmware update and your car has an additional projected 40 miles range and an additional 15 more ft/lbs of torque.... it's beautiful! I just flashed my XFX RX 5700 Ultra DD to the XFX RX 5700XT THICC II BIOS... worked easy and ran the Superposition test both before an after and came up with about a 7% boost in performance.
This card is a second graphics card I have owned since Windows 98 came out and its amazing I can't picture what a new card would be like probably a Quantum computer compared to mine
In the last decade+ I went from a GTX 8800 to a HD4870, HD6970, 750ti, RX480, and now 1660 super. The only times I had any driver troubles with either Nvidia or Amd was when I messed up the installation and didn't properly DDU.
You should use the tab button for autocomplete in cmd. First it will autofill the executable then it will auto cycle through filenames. Just a tip to make life easier
I've done a lot of research on it since I'm planning to buy a new PC, and honestly from what I've seen the options are either to wait an indefinite amount of time before they properly fix it, or get a 2070 Super. So you made the right choice
As much as I love AMD, they really do need to work on their drivers. Last time I had an AMD card with the R9 390 I was getting bluescreens left and right. The entire display driver would crash on a regular basis as well. Switched to NVIDIA with a 1080 TI and all the issues went away.
@@hircine92h is that a fact? I mean I'm not seeing anything like this in any of my gpus ever. Its ridiculous thinking someone as goofy as Jay isn't doing something asinine.
Here i am sitting with my 750ti and wishing i could afford to upgrade to something like the 5700xt....overclocking that would just be extra icing on the cake for me.
Love it. MSI RX 5700 GamingX flashed to XT version a month ago. 1200mV, 2150Mhz core clock, 1820Mhz memory clock in MSI Afterburner and haven't crashed once since bringing the Memory clock down from Afterburner's max of 1900Mhz. Had some artifacting at 1850 but no other issues. Guessing I have a good Binned 5700, Superposition on 1080 Extreme came in at 5241.
You should've talked about SPPT also as an option that is done through the registry and has a lower chance of messing something up with the card as you're not messing with the card BIOS itself.
Not sure if I reiterated this enough in this video.. but if you decide to flash your BIOS... MAKE SURE ITS FROM THE SAME BRAND/PCB type... for instance.. if you have an OEM/Reference card then make sure its also an OEM 5700XT... if its a 5700 Red Devil, make sure its a 5700XT Red Devil etc... THIS MATTERS as doing another style card COULD brick your video card. DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Is there legitimately no way to recover the card if you screw up the flash? Like, it's straight up bricked forever?
@@anusmcgee4150 see Tech Yes City video about that. He used another video card to boot and flashed it back
Also recommend not to do this with the blower cooler cards, they simply can't handle the extra heat output
JAY! I watched your video and it inspired me to Flash my Etch a sketch Bios over to the my calculator. Now all the numbers are unreadable.
isnt the MorePowerTool from Igor safer? you get the same performance without risking bricking your card.
"You can easily brick your GPU with this."
*EVERY RADEON 5700 NEEDS TO DO THIS*
A power outage can happen at any given moment so that's the risk you take but yes it is funny :D
I did it and my PC started violently crashing in some specific games, might be an issue with AMD's abhorrent drivers, but yeah thank god I did a backup
@@ursusemperor Its better to just OC with amds standards so from 1750mhz to 1850mhz I did that a little warmer but I gain few fps and I'm happy without any crashes or errors I won't go further like they did 2100mhz and etc...
I used modified bios to upgrade my RX 460 to RX 560 but sadly it doesn't work. No output or anything. Glad I export the bios before doing this thing.
@@JonelKingas did this to mine, i can hit 950mhz on memory, 2130mhz core clock, power limit plus 50. runs insanely amazing man, honsetly my benchmarks are close to beating stock xt in alot of games. im sure not everyone will have the same luck but if you undervolt and clock it to around 1950mhz you can get great thermals and performance, mine is a reference version.
One thing I really enjoy about Jay's videos is the real time feel of them. Instead of just showing some charts, specific instructions, and whatnot... he's like... hey let's see if this works, watch our trials and tribulations as we slip into madness. XD
Videos like this we had to make sure to record it as it happened... otherwise if we broke it before we started the video, we wouldnt be able to make a video about it etc. We like to show it as it happens. Those are the kinds of videos I like to watch, so I produce that type of content. Thanks for watching!
@@Jayztwocents Hell yeah my dude. :) Keep doing what you do. Your channel has a very specific tone that is genuine, entertaining, and informative at the same time. The triple threat! :)
@@Jayztwocents the exact reason I love watching your channel. Thanks to you and your team for bringing us REAL information.
@@Jayztwocents agreed, the let's play around videos are my favorite.
That's why I like this channel. Basically, since it was filmed like this, I don't feel bad choosing an XT now for a PC a the office. No way I'm going through this to save some dollars. It was fun to watch the real time line.
Instead of plug and play, its plug and pray.
😂😂😂😂
#RadeonLife
pc gaming in a nutshell. go with consoles.
@@DerToasti 'it just works'
@@DerToasti no one wants to play with 30fps on low settings. PC gaming is superior. Also, flashing bios is not a normal thing. If you don't try things like that, PC gaming is simple.
Calling my new 5700 a "low end card" in the first 40 seconds kinda hurt me..
That's because for nVidiots Fanboys any AMD GPU is "low end card"
@nune nemaveze just because a gpu is more high end than an other doesnt automatically mean the other is low end . radeon 5700 isnt by any means a low end gpu.
@@Twongz_does_anything lmao
@@Twongz_does_anything Considering the 5700 XT is essentially on par with a 2070's, you're saying the only high end GPU that exists on the market are 2080's? Like, if you were to split the market in three tiers, "low, mid, high," you don't think the 5700XT is in the top 33% of GPU performers? Wouldn't you rank performance against the mean or median averages rather than what's relative compared to the best GPU on the market if you were objective? Otherwise everything is kinda "mid-tier" if you're simply comparing against a 2080, lol.
@@finsimple4396 he's too simple to think of that.
Saw this and went and flashed mine the same way and then did some tiny overclocking. Went from 4449 to 4902 after flash to 5091 after oc. That’s a 14% score increase! Thanks Jay!
RaidaTheBlade is it safe to do? i have an XFX ultra DD variant wonder if i should do it or not? would appreciate a response
I have 4240 with stock bios, and 4734 with an xt. Ref card
@@zhila5958 I've got a reference 5700 which made it super easy to follow techpowerup's instructions. If you can find the right bios for the xt version of the exact same card it should be nice and easy, but that's the big thing. As long as it's the right bios it is super safe. If it's the wrong one....
RaidaTheBlade thanks man appreciate your help
Hey, im currently on a 980ti and i really like the 5700 performance especially with the bios flash. But ive been hearing that amd has lot of driver issues. Just as Jay had in the beginning of this video. Have you had any problems and what games are you playing?
Why am i even watching this.
I got an exam tomorrow and already flashed my 5700 months ago.
Did you pass?
Where is exam? Is it safe? Is it alright?
Dumbest comment 2020
Did you go well on the exam???
How did you do on the exam and how well is your card doing months later. Please update us.
"lower end graphics card"
*looks at 5700*
*looks at jay*
*confused pikachu face*
PC users act smarter and then make comments like this
@@schwany6703 i dun geddit. I just built my first pc based on half life alyx's recommended specs which called for an rx5700. I was under the assumption it was a high end, or at the very least the higher end mid tier card. Is it not? Did i waste my money?
@@corvidconfidential8826 lmao no you didn't waste your money. 5700 is a really good card. Maybe not high end compared to the 2080ti but definitely high end
@@marksk898 it's mid range
Its high mid
Dad : Are ya winning son?
Son : No dad. I'm having trouble getting the updated drivers, flashing the bios. Under volting the card. May even need to reinstall windows onto a clean drive.
I am not winning dad. I'm tired.
Dad : Haha okay son. Dinners ready in half an hour.
Needed to add reinstall windows for the authentic experience.
Flashed my reference Vega 56 with a Vega 64 bios then undervolted it/OC'd the mem. It is now as fast as a stock Vega 64 Nitro
i just overclocked my regular 5700xt and it beats the 2070 super in benchmarks. i got 109 at 1440 high on tomb raider while 2070s gets 106
Damn good! What are the temps before and after?
@@BlingBoyOto temps barely change tbh. Max I've seen my card get was 75, and it's the red dragon so only a 2 fan cooler. I think before that I'd seen 72
@@bladeclanhalo3 Oh yeah PowerColor, Sapphire and Gigabyte's Gaming OC are fantastic for this.
my 56 is doing 1550mhz core and 1000mhz memory on games, 190w average power usage, 75 c max (70 average) temps (custom fan curves). Blower btw
9:37 I had an AMD Phenom ii x2 555 BE back in the day that I was able to unlock a 3rd stable core on and OC. Those were crazy times.
I still have an old Athlon x3 that unlocks to a Phenom B50 x4, love that thing.
the old Athlon days where you could just use a pencil and bridge the pins on the top of the processor to unlock the multiplier was the go to trick of the time until AMD used a laser to sever the connections. People still managed good overclocks if they tweaked the memory speeds and AGP:PCI bus dividers.
@@NightMotorcyclist I remember reading about that. That seems so long ago now.
RX 460 to RX 560, + custom memory straps and no power target limitations, burn it to the ground if you want :)
Competes with the 1050 and 1050ti for 100$ 4GB Vram in 2016 :)
And after that AMD started to sell fake 8 core CPUs.
Flashing a R9 290 into a R9 290X was also "common" a thing.
not all r9 290s could be flashed though.
Also the most popular flashes were back in the HD4000 and HD 5000 seires series GPUs. A HD4670 could become a HD4730 100% of the time and a HD4770 could flash to a HD4830 100% of the time. The HD 5750 could be flashed to a HD5770.
@@rattlehead999 vega56 to vega64 (not 100% but most of the way)
@@iMagic16 that too, but very few people on Vega cards.
Never forget the 6950 - 6970 flash before the dual bios switch was removed on the reference cards.
@@OCBSphinX true, true. And the HD6850 to HD 6870.
Heh, I did a lot of pencil mods on ATI 9500 to make them 9700pros. The "shaved" parts could be reenabled by using a soft graphite pencil to short a couple pins on the PCB then, you you flashed the 9700pro bios and you had a fully functional card that cost twice as much. That was back when ATI was spanking nVidia hard, and there was a massive shortage of 9700pros. Such an amazing card...
Then, to quadruple the sale price, you'd flash a Mac ROM, so it could be used in G4 power Macs. ATI even provided all the unlocked flashing tools and a really nice set of drivers for macos and OS X. We were poor students with the most expensive GPUs and computers. Cross flashing cards basically paid for my masters. Anybody here remember strangedogs forum?
AMD XP 2500 barton to 3200 Barton used the same trick with graphite pens to short on set of pads.
i remember the 9700 pro it was a beast, wasnt there also a 9800 pro? i had a ATI 9600 Pro, and AMD athlon 2500+ unlocked to 3200+ ofcourse :) # p4 killer.
The whole high-end 9x00 series were amazing. They completely deleted the competition that existed when they launched, and even the cards NVIDIA brought out to fight them could barely hold their own *at best*. I had a 9700 PRO, then a 9800 PRO that was mostly paid for by a friend buying my 9700 PRO when he saw how much it ruined his GeForce4 Ti.
I wish I could have flashed my 9600 Pro to a 9700/9800 :P
I remember that with the old 9xxxx series. 9800pro was a great card back then; until Nvidia brought out the 8800Gtx it was top. Around that time AMD were topping the CPU game with faster clocks and better gaming performance. Interesting how things have developed.
I don't remember stumbling across that forum but man, I could use a racket like that right now.
This brings back some memories. I've still got my old Sapphire Radeon 9700 Pro that I flashed way back in the day. Man I need to dig that old machine out.
8:35
No, Jay. The 5500 series uses a different die design to the 5700 and 5600 series.
"you NEED TO DO THIS" "do this at your own risk"
I remember way back when I flashed my 6800GTS to an Ultra. I miss those times.
A 6800gt was an unachievable dream when I was 15. My 6600gt served me well.
This reminds me of something I did in. Buying a laptop and naturally wanted a gaming computer, but parents wouldn't let me get one for obvious reasons. So I picked a Thinkpad T61p with the Quadro FX570M. Talked about how it's not a gaming card, but would be great for CAD drawings and such.
Then when I got to campus, I replaced the FX570M drivers with 8600M GT ones. Big Brain moment.
Nice
Ploc. Noice
Nouice
At first I was dissapointed that my pc had this variant of the card, but now I kind of got attached to it. The build is so aesthetic and it actually has a cool cooling design.
I’m surprised you didn’t know and/or mention that having both Nvidia and AMD drivers installed causes unusual problems.
He runs into these issues like on every video he does, yet he still hasn't learned.
glad i seen your comment. I have an AMD GPU on the way and Ive been using a nvidia GPU. thank you
whenever i upgrade i always wipe my drives completely and reinstall windows from scratch so i can make sure nothing fucks up, so i can benchmark my pc while clear and because its fun
Brady Smith happy it’s gonna work out for you now! Enjoy
unoJustAJ AMD intentionally wanted the screen to go green when it sees Nvidia drivers are still installed. It resembles the puking that the AMD card is experiencing... 😂
PSA: do NOT use the latest drivers on 5700xt. Use the latest Adenaline 2019 instead of 2020, more stuff works than doesn't on that version.
For me the problem is the new Radeon software. Roll it back to something like 19.10.1 and update only the GPU driver to 20.1.4. No more problems.
Um...What do you think the Adrenaline software includes? THey always include the latest drivers.
20.1.3 run stable for me on ROG Strix 5700XT. I reinstalled W10 in situ going from NV to AMD tho
I am on 20.1.3 with a 5700XT Red Devil, all seems normal and working. Remember to DDU your old drivers before installing the new ones, I think that helps quite a bit with both AMD and Nvidia drivers.
@@scott.purcival 20.1.1 onwards has been stable so far but I will roll back if anything goes wrong. 20.1.4 right now. Ryzen 2700 + 5700XT
Flashing a Radeon 5700 to a Radeon Pro w5700 would be really exciting for CAD and 3D artists.
Watched whole video......feels like I need a refresher on just about everything that was said here lol
5700: Flash the same brand
Vega 56: Oh you have a Red Dragon Vega 56? Here, flash this Sapphire Nitro+
Woah...🤦🤣🤣
@sw4gr1d No, the card is not dead, V56 is manufactured with both Samsung and Hynix chips so BIOS must support both, V64 is only manufactured with Samsung chips so Samsung HBM is the only one that the BIOS supports, Hynix memory won't get killed while flashing... it will simply not work and since most Vega 56 models have a dual bios switch(with one write protected), recovering is a piece of cake.
@sw4gr1d You should not be flashing if you have Hynix HBM lmao
When your using wattman, try hitting save profile and then loading it instead of just hitting apply.
I like to run 5700 reference at stock because the fan is quiet. Once you go XT Bios you also make the card louder.
You can get after market fan and radiator kits to fix this
But then you could just get an XT from a manufacturer that makes good coolers. HMM
Mount a cpu aircooler on it.
@@Qvik_ Which is more expensive than a reference XT, which is more expensive than an manufacturer's 5700, which is more expensive than a reference 5700.
So then you could just buy a reference 5700 and stick an aftermarket cooler on it, turn it into an XT, and you have a super quiet but super powerful 5700 that can beat all but the very best XTs
I flashed my reference 5700. My fans are at max 60% junction temp is 90-95 it only throtles at 110 celcius. yeah its louder but not by much and i get better performance.
6:57 I'm not even paying attention to what Jay's doing, I'm just looking at all his desktop icons. :P
"not the drug community" portion needs to land on a best of video. LOL
lol i randomly skipped the video and landed on that quote while reading this comment.
This happened around 2008/2009 when AMD acquired ATI, around the time of the Radeon HD 6000 series. The 2GB version of the 6950 could easily be turned into 6970s with a BIOS flash, and AMD fully supported it :)
I got the XFX 5700 a few months ago. I flashed the bios to the XT version, and got about 2.5% increase, but my temps shot up a ton, so I flashed it back.
Yeah I have the same card. The cooler is not sufficient to run as an XT.
They used the same exact cooler for the XT versions and it was so bad they quickly made a new model with a better cooler. But they still sell the old Thicc II version that is cheaper. I'm not even gonna try it, I don't have the best case cooling and being in Florida my ambient is less than ideal more than half the year.
BTW, I'm curious. Are you running adrenaline 2020 on that card? Each new version seems to be worse for me, I'm getting a black screen while gaming forcing a reboot every 10 minutes or just crashes if I'm lucky. Currently staying at 19.2.1.
Just use power play mod of igorslab for a less risky operation.
Running 2100mhz with my rx 5700.
right takes way less time and you can push it further than you can with just the bios. i get xt levels and 27000 on firestrike 1080x1920
how do you overclock your 5700 to 2100mhz? I use msi afterburner and the max i can do is 1850 mhz. I fi go over it won't go past 1850.
Yes but bios flashing allows you to use the latest drivers without having to re do your power play tables and honestly is just as stable in 90% of cards. If you have a dual bios card theres no reason not to try 👍
Alex Firdog won’t both ways cause future issues when it comes to driver and software updates? Possibly even individual game stability issues
@@jarrettmaltry6305 no when you bios flash the drivers think your card is a 5700xt. Requires nothing special afterwards to download drivers or anything of that sort
instructions unclear: flashed my rx 5700 xt with rtx 2080 ti bios. didn't work. :(
also
8:36 RX 5500: I could have been a contender!
🤣
m33p0 make sure you undervolt it while flashing, it worked for me
@@cristicristi2668 Did not know that was possible, any step through on that. Sounds awesome esp. since it has duel bios.
@@cristicristi2668 Any walk through on that sounds awesome didn't know could be done.
Great, I was finally convincing myself to go to bed since it's 3 am here and then a Jay's video popped up LOL
I guess these 15 minutes won't make a great difference in my sleep schedule so here we go :D
Oof its 4am didnt notice
me to BE
@@shin8731 who needs sleep anyway? LOL
6 pm and I was not planning on going to bed but than I watched Jay's video. J/K
Cant fuck up a sleep schedule if you don't have a sleep schedule...
It's easier to fix power tables, and you'll get even more abilities without changing the bios
how would you go about fixing power tables for vega 56 if thats a thing?
Yep, less risk more overclocking also by using more power tool you can edit the fan profile and NOT use MSI afterburner that's known to cause problems but here we are again... ffs Jay.
Is my card supposed to be smoking
Modding power tables also doesn't void your warranty. Most vendors don't actually check the BIOS on a dead card, but if they do, your warranty is gone. Don't flash the BIOS, just mod the power tables. Everything you get from a BIOS flash, you can get from modded power play tables. In fact you can get more from modded power play tables than a BIOS alone. This video is bad advice.
@@K31TH3R good to know.thanks
You could actually use morepowertool instead of flashing bios especially if your cards dont have dual bios. Morepowertool does just the same thing without the risk of bricking the card.
The real game for me is overclocking. I loved Polaris overclocking and bios editing. AMD baby!
Are you sure you mean Polaris not Vega? Because Polaris was terrible at overclocking.
@@patent5421 No, I had the Polaris cards. I edited bios, memory straps, and did a ton with it. It was awesome.
I did end up having to sell it since people were buying them for double their store price and I got a Pascal card, so untweakable by comparison.
man my ry480 can overclock a wrapping 30mhz xD. nothing comparble to my old HD7850 from 850mhz to 1,2ghz with stock bios
big mic buzz going on , like when my guitar is not plugged in all the way
I think it might actually be a low note in the music track. Ill have Phil double check and not use it again if thats the case. But its not the mic.
@@Jayztwocents thanks boss , im almost sad the first heart i get on a video comment is a critique , been subbed a long time and love the content! *obligatory ass kiss* I've also done some bios flashing and unlocking with ole school amd hard ware.
Sounds like the blower cooler not a mic problem. I had one of those noisy bastards.
@@Jayztwocents It's because the music in the back is lofi hip hop. LoFi producers like to add electric hum underneath their music to make it sound like it's played from a shitty record player. Just cut all the sub from it next time if you use this song again.
I noticed it too. I don't think it's the music though, it's still there when all the music cuts because the screen turns green at 4:07 but is gone at 5:12 with music
My brother ran his 6950 flashed to 6970 for years... It's such an amd thing :p
Yeah good old times when the lesser version was the same only with deactivated stuff
Yup, I had two reference Gigabyte 6950s with the 6970s BIOS, it was great. What wasn't great was not finding out about bitcoin until after they were no longer profitable to mine on GPUs. I could have become a real life millionaire if someone had told me about them. Made about one hundred with mining Litecoins, but the reference cooler made horrible noise when mining (not gaming though), and my wife was turning the PC off whenever I wasn't around. :/
@@filipealves6602 I sold mine last year. I made a few dollars on it until the software to mine was updated to not recognize the card any more. Became worthless after that. Used so much power for the performance, but was great for its day, and yea I too did the bios flash to enable the additional power.
I still have one and still works great for older games.
I’m the worst computer diy’er around. But I was able to do this and it works great!
Thanks for showing me how to do this.
Gainward gave me bios and bios flash tools when I got my 1070 in 2016, it has a dual bios switch so easily recoverable if you screw it up and the manufacturer officially supported you flashing higher tier bios onto the card.
Geez Jay, here I was thinking you'd found a way to force crossfire lol
This makes me remember the time I when I was able to flash my radeon 6950 to a 6970. It actually worked flawlesly and I even sold it later as a 6970, so a win win.
As a 5700XT user, I can confirm the driver issues. My 1070 worked way better.
I had problems a few months ago with my Sapphire 5700 when I first installed it too. Each new driver update since then eventually eliminated all of them and it's rock steady now. I'm debating this bios flash as well, but am a little leery because I'm pretty happy with it's performance and don't want to muck it up.
Idk, the drivers seem to have been better lately. Though I remember using my 5700 in Linux for a couple of months after launch, because although I loss a bit of performance using the mesa github drivers at least i didnt have wierd black screen or signal losses or cursor corruption etc. Been back on W10 since December and still have a few issues every once in a while. Atelier Ryza didnt launch for a while. Dark Souls 3 would occasionally hang, Civ V would cause drivers to fail when using DX11. It was a bit laughable to be honest lol
Yep my RX5700XT had driver issues, and still has on Pavlov VR.
And yesterday, I was playing games at 100c because the fans didn't start(for some reason). So I had to open MSI afterburner and put the fan speed to 100 to cool the thing down.
@@MrWayne6363 if its the pulse then you have two bioses on it. As long as you dont try to flash both you can always change to the second bios if anything goes wrong and restore your bios
Railroad Sniper I can’t even download the new driver as it gives my pc instant bsod. Returning and going Nvidia
I did the exact same as you....I now have an expensive doorstop....great jay thanks for that
Jay, this is why I watch you. You and GN are the only reviewers showing QUALITATIVE data, or the day to day experience of using the product.
Everyone else only shows nonsense like "price to performance," which won't matter literally one second after you boot up your first game. How do you factor broken drivers into price to performance?
"Find the link yourself"
Jayz 2020
Bought an AMD card for the first time since they were... ATI, a 5700XT! HYPE! Well, simply, sadly. No. Just no. I can't quite believe how bad the drivers are, or at least the constant troubles I'm having with it. I'd heard of 'bad AMD' GPU drivers but assumed it was just fanboy smacktalk. Oooh boy! Sadly it's too late to return the bloody thing now as well. Monitor is constantly going into power saving mode or just games crashing. It's actually quite impressive at how shoddy a product it really is. Anyway, rant over. Team green all the way [for the next build :( ]
(Super happy with my 3700X though!)
EDIT: 13/10/2020 After a few driver updates over the summer months the 5700XT runs brilliantly. No more problems and great performance, with hindsight happy with the purchase and glad AMD turned things around.
Ive honestly never experienced bad AMD drivers. But drivers for a 1050ti? Ive had shit drivers on nvidia.
I always clean install my drivers though.
yeah the AMD CPUs are great I still would not buy a Radeon GPU from them.
Step 1: Google DDU Driver uninstaller
Step 2: Download and follow the instructions
Step 3: Redownload the latest drivers
Step 4: come back and thank me
It’s literally that simple as installing and uninstalling
I’ve had probs with amd drivers before but 1 or 2 uninstalls fixes it in like 10 minutes
One tip for the losing signal and monitors blacking. Go into Radeon settings and go to global graphics settings. For anti aliasing set it to override games settings with the amd settings. And it makes it happen way less often. I did it and it only happens with specific games under very specific circumstances. Also do not open Radeon settings while running a game it usually trips it
Joshua Christiansen they had bad drivers mid Rx 470-480 launch
Me watching this as my 5700 showed up in the mail today lol
Do itttt
Be sure to backup your default files, and give it a whirl, no harm no foul.
liked purely for the explination of how binning works, because that confuses so many people. It's good to see.
I did that, then did some undervolt (1150mv), downed the clock a little bit to 1930mhz and agressivly change fan profile. I got steady performance and max temperature of 65oC. Mine is reference design
2:05 am here. still awake lmao thinking I'll go to sleep now. Then jay uploads. No.
Night dude
facts
Good night, don’t let the bed bugs whisper threatening things into your ear that make you question yourself. >:)
SAME
lightweight man, it's 4:30am here.
the code line would be "amdvbflash -f -p 0 Bios.rom"
no .exe or .win needed..
depends if amdvbflash is listed as a command in the vars
his filename was plain "5700XT" but he was typing in "5700XT.rom", which was a file that didnt exist. that's why it wasn't working
@@jongoodenough3162 Nope, you need to add the .rom at the end.
there was no ".rom" extension in the filename, the filename was just 5700XT with no extension
@@jongoodenough3162 All files have extensions, his view just didn't show it. That doesn't mean it's not there, just that his view options don't show the extensions.
5500XT is a different die all together but they do use the same chip for 5600XT - 5700XT :-)
Adrian Wujtowicz 5600xt dies are crippled as fck tho, wont be able to flash that one a tier higher
@@alpenjodel24 Yeah I know that, is just he said they all use the same die just cut up which is not true 😊
Press TAB on a partially typed out filename and both CMD and PowerShell will autocomplete to their best ability. I mess around in CLI for both Win and *Nix, so this helps, IMMENSELY. Hope it helps you too.
Also don't forget that for binning heat can be important. If your cooling solution is better than a dell/hp hot box it is likely to work in your computer and not one of those.
"Low end card"
Me, with my rx 570 : 😶
Feels bro. But with the wide spread of performance options in GPUs these days, it's understandable why he'd say that. When the Titan RTX launched, a lot of reviewers were saying that the 2080 is now mid-range.
i have a rx 570 too :D it's not a bad card tho best budget gpu ever!
@KeananC depends, where you live though for usa thats true, 114mhz oc on gpu speed and 250mhz on vram speed it's a lot more overclockable than rx 580
@KeananC just easily oc my 570 pulse to 1380mhz clock and 2039mhz memory. Which is pretty close to 580 saphhire nitro out of the box.
@Keanan so 1080p ultra and 90 FPS is “barely a 1080p card” alrighty fam clearly 😂
I'm using AMD Cards since 16 years and my gf does too. Strange I (or we) never had problems, sometimes the problem sits infront of the pc...
Jay is a clown in front of a very expensive computer. Its what people like watching for some reason.
@Brad Viviviyal i like that. I'm stealing it
They got a test bench where who knows what cards were swapped multiple times and several driver versions probable saved in windows, so yeah it might not be just plug and play on that test bench.
This is such an idiotic thing to say - you use your anecdotal evidence to suggest that everyone having any kind of problem is because they are morons. Could it be that you are just a blind fanboy? AMD driver problems are well-documented and anyone saying shit like this is obviously a sheep.
well, my 2060 scored 5176 on superposition without any bios flashing :)
the 2060 is worse than the stock 5700
@@bladeclanhalo3 Not in my favorite game : Superposition benchmark !
@@bladeclanhalo3 but it works. no trash drivers and no laughable temperatures
@@hircine92h so does my 5700xt
@@bladeclanhalo3 how's your experience, I'm considering 5700xt soon
I just rebuilt my gaming pc. From ddr3 and an amd 4130 quadcore to a Ryzen 2600x and upgraded everything. I watched ALL off your videos and Linus's for 3 days. (yours for 2 days and Linus's for only 1, but shhh dont tell him lol)
I literally forgot everything pc building wise since it'd been 7 years. I just wanted to say thanks for the awesome videos, I definitely learned a lot! I've been so miserable gaming capability wise, and now Im in love again. Your videos are awesome for beginners, mediate, and even advanced builders. Most UA-camrs\experts, can only teach 1 or the other.
This is the first time I hear about flashing BIOS and Jay is making a lot of sense on it
12:30 love it.
I didnt get it?
@@animeshbhakta2229 you're not American.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence
Semper Fi O7
@@rump360 oh, now i did
AMD's drivers are a giant mess right now.
They are always a mess, thankfully the rollback system works fine.
The latest are working great for my 5700 xt
I can't even use any driver newer than 19.7.5 on my RX 580 without getting black screen crashes. AMD drivers are SO TRASH its unreal especially those garbage Adrenaline 2020 drivers
ohh and btw the dumb driver had updated itself to a new trash version and it started the black screen marathon again, so I had to uninstall completely then reinstall 19.7.5 and use Kaspersky's firewall to block the driver from connecting to the internet LOL
@@hircine92h Haven't had a single issue on the wife's 580.. try this though. > Ddu the drivers. Restart the system. Unpack the new 2020.2.1 driver. But don't install. Go into your device manager and update your video drivers. Specify the drivers in amd/2020.2.1/packages/drivers/display/wt6a_inf
Why buy a used 5700 xt if it could be a scam when you can just buy a 5700 for cheaper and flash it. 😎
I saved allot of money saving for 6 months and i can't risk bricking the graphics card and void the warranty.
@@chikakabaroka8294 its alot easier and safer to just use the power table you dont even have to flash the bios.
Because you can brick your card.
@@_Thred_ I'm not really good at tweaking the parts other than building a PC.
Did you even watch the video? Not really worth the hassle.
Hello! nobody ever talks about this, but could you do a video in your show on
safety, distance to sit from the screen, EMF radiations, number of hours
spent in front of a PC and stuff like that? Jay you're great, love your show!
Last time I was this early Nvidia was still overcharging for their cards
it's what happens when they don't have a competitor on par with stable drivers and performance to match
AMD was shit so, yeah like Matt said, that's what happen. I recently built a 3900x with a 5700 XT for a PC at the office and my 1+ year old 9900K/2080Ti is still better, even though it was very pricey. Then people don't understand why competition is important, and want Apple to die or hate on Intel etc. You NEED as a customer, competition. Amd drivers are still dogshit.
Could have used this a week ago when I was buying new pc parts
k1ngs4ndm it just be like that sometimes
A big lesson is... Always wait
@@TheBinklemNetwork I wait more than a year (cuz ram and gpu prices) and I have feeling I should wait a bit more ....
I mean if that's the lesson, always wait, I'd still be struggling on xbox
0:40 Me pressing the 5s skip button 12 times.
its amazing how good the 1080ti is still, get 6350 score on same but full extreme 1080p high details instead of low as well
Recently sold some cards and what I do is take a video starting with the card in the tower, then pan over to desktop with the time/date up, then pan over to GPU-Z and then start Furmark.
11:17 when you hack the matrix
PC is the best for gaming
Gameboy Color or GTFO
Dude this IS my first AMD card. Never again
Agreed.
Why?
@@IamR3D88 the drivers had issues in the beginning and the fe versions were overheating.
But rn, they are super value and compare to a 2070s (only performing worse in some games, but also better in others).
Let's just hope that the new amd cards wont have the same issues at launch
@ 8:33 thats how we do it for 17 years now... you aim high, rejects are cut down inferior products, with some exceptions ofc
I bought the 5700 red devil when it launched with the plan to reflash the bios to a 5700XT red devil. It actually worked and mine was able to boost to the same speed at the 5700XT red devil. I wanted a better air cooler and the red devil has a great cooler. I couldn't get the GUI to work, I used the command line instead.
Ok so I ended up flashing a nuclear reactor to my FX5200 and the floor is now lava
Sen halp
not great not terrible
Idk why m watching this when I don't even own a card. ooF
I don't even own a desktop
@@noah_the_nerd sed lif eh! ooF
*_Grand Oof_*
@waffeltek r/woooosh
@@WillyJunior wasn't one.
Since when is this a "low-end card"?
@Brad Viviviyal
5700 = 2070. That's mid range not low end.
Also, cut out every other little metal strap across the exhaust port, will nearly double the airflow.
I dont know how i went 4 years of watching your videos I never SUBed. Your videos are so straight forward, as well break it down kindergarten style
Nicholas Davey ...When a channel has more than 4k subs, it doesn’t do anything to support the channel. It’s just the clicks that count. The only advantage to subbing is to get notifications of new content, but if you watch a channel regularly you get the videos recommended anyway.
It s funny how in 15 years of using about 10 different AMD cards, I never had ANY problems with the drivers... It's your karma man!! :-p
i went froma 1050 to 570 to just yesterday my new red devil 5700xt! its like a whole different world man
I had loads of problems with my rx 5700xt returned it change to rtx 2070 super
@@chudson8453 I've literally had zero driver issues with my RX 580 and 5700xt over the past 2 years. They are regularly updated as well, I hate to say this man but it's probably you.
@@totobyafrica847 nah, the 5700 series causes many problems for some people, most peeps are fine and i bought mine a few days ago, but a mate of mine also had lots of issues and nothing helped.
he sent it back and got a 2060s
@@VochtigePizza Oh shit, I haven't heard any but what sort of issues was he having?
Jay - "Yay for the tweaking community... not the drug community!"
*Phil cracks up*
hehe crack, like the drug
4:30 that was me half a year ago 😂 replaced it with a RTX 2060
It's like owning a Tesla and they release an OTA firmware update and your car has an additional projected 40 miles range and an additional 15 more ft/lbs of torque.... it's beautiful!
I just flashed my XFX RX 5700 Ultra DD to the XFX RX 5700XT THICC II BIOS... worked easy and ran the Superposition test both before an after and came up with about a 7% boost in performance.
This card is a second graphics card I have owned since Windows 98 came out and its amazing I can't picture what a new card would be like probably a Quantum computer compared to mine
Hope that their drivers dont break their card? Make sure that if they have a blower card it dries their hair well? :D
For the love of god please tell me that wasn’t his actual card in the ad
See his most recent tweet
Soutar3DG dude I was only memeing lmao
Regular tech person: "AMD drivers age like fine wine!" No.. They age like milk.
The only reason I won't buy an AMD card just yet, will give them a try once they tidy up their stuff
In the last decade+ I went from a GTX 8800 to a HD4870, HD6970, 750ti, RX480, and now 1660 super. The only times I had any driver troubles with either Nvidia or Amd was when I messed up the installation and didn't properly DDU.
Fiiiine milk!
Ye sure thats why the rx 480 aged better than the 1060
PHil..... how did you miss the opportunity to title this episode "Jay takes the WIN out of things."
You should use the tab button for autocomplete in cmd. First it will autofill the executable then it will auto cycle through filenames. Just a tip to make life easier
I had to green screen issue with my 5700xt, my fix was to return it and get a 2070s
I've done a lot of research on it since I'm planning to buy a new PC, and honestly from what I've seen the options are either to wait an indefinite amount of time before they properly fix it, or get a 2070 Super. So you made the right choice
I just bought the 5700 XT and had to take it back because I was having too many problems with it. I ended up getting a RTX 2060 Super instead.
What problems?
Keep seeing posts about problems when mine worked fine out of box
@@RThe-Artist thats cause some cards have the old bios, some have the new one. You're in the second group
@@timytimeerased There's 5700 XT's with an older bios?? How do you check?
As much as I love AMD, they really do need to work on their drivers. Last time I had an AMD card with the R9 390 I was getting bluescreens left and right. The entire display driver would crash on a regular basis as well. Switched to NVIDIA with a 1080 TI and all the issues went away.
I wouldn't seriously base an AMD products stability off of this video. I get so much cringe watching Jay play with AMD cards.
@@Rexolaboy but its the truth AMD cards are junk ..
@@hircine92h is that a fact? I mean I'm not seeing anything like this in any of my gpus ever. Its ridiculous thinking someone as goofy as Jay isn't doing something asinine.
@@Rexolaboy well, I had a different experience. AMD gpus are low quality, high temperatures, loud and less than TRASH drivers.
Here i am sitting with my 750ti and wishing i could afford to upgrade to something like the 5700xt....overclocking that would just be extra icing on the cake for me.
Love it. MSI RX 5700 GamingX flashed to XT version a month ago. 1200mV, 2150Mhz core clock, 1820Mhz memory clock in MSI Afterburner and haven't crashed once since bringing the Memory clock down from Afterburner's max of 1900Mhz. Had some artifacting at 1850 but no other issues. Guessing I have a good Binned 5700, Superposition on 1080 Extreme came in at 5241.
14:20 - Please don't give the dodgy Asian tech sellers ideas. Oh wait, they already do that, just with sh!ttier cards.
3:55 Admit it Jay, the green display was an attempt at subliminal messaging to get people to buy Nvidia GPUs because you're such a shill.
CONSPIRACY!!!!
nvidia is "smart" for doing everything to prevent you from having fun with your hardware? Jay please! The words! That´s not smart, that sucks.
You should've talked about SPPT also as an option that is done through the registry and has a lower chance of messing something up with the card as you're not messing with the card BIOS itself.
I don't have radeon 5700 but I still watch it since its Jayz
Damn I’m early