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I know this is on the older side, but I click the link for the fan and it brings me to a kickstarter page and I can’t seem to find where to purchase it from there. Where am I supposed to get the fan? 🫠
the USB powering the fans in Rest Mode is actually a setting you can change in Settings > System > Power Saving > Features available in Rest Mode > Supply Power to USB Ports.
@@SPOONtoma Sony either changed up the location or I forgot a step. Updated path... Settings > System > Power Saving > Features available in Rest Mode > Supply Power to USB Ports
All these fans were blowing the air out without creating a balance of negative and positive air pressure. To properly regulate the air one end should blow in and the other end should blow out just like in PC’s.
That is correct, and thats what i mentioned above, this only extract portion of hot air that would be extracted anyway, but what we need is something that will blow cool air in from below or other side.
Besides. 70 fn dBs my dudes. That's INSANE 😂😂😂. That's very loud, even if you use closed headphones. If this thing actually cooled things by like 10/15 degrees I could say "yeah it's loud but it works". These don't even cool anything 😂
Exactly ive done the same test he did but had one on top temps before where 125 after 5 hrs then i put the fans on the back and added a cooling base and one fan on top temps dropped to 87 then after an hr of gaming went to 95 an stayed there
Id be interested in using this in tandem with a top "pushing" fan or the g story faceplate "push fan" to actually have both intake and exhaust moving air at increased rates instead of just relying the exhaust draw doing all the work
I’ve got both of those and a top fan. It’s cool as can be on the top plates, moderately warm on the bottom, and hot coming out the back fan add on. Think I might add a cooling stand to it just for Funsies.
Hey Rudy, I'm not sure I understand your conclusion about this product. You say that it's worth it for the temp reduction, but in the data you presented the difference is minuscule (and in a larger dataset would be within the margin of error). Also, the temperatures without the extra fan are nowhere close to hitting a point where performance or durability would be impacted. I understand there's no way to capture the exact APU temperature, but I wouldn't be surprised that if we could, the difference with or without a fan would be imperceptible. Am I missing something?
To answer your question: Nope. You're not missing anything. The fan will drop the temperature a degree or so Celsius on average. Is it enough to impact the performance of the console directly? Probably not. I agree that in the larger data set, this can definitely be in the margin of error. Even more so with the miniscule difference that I experienced in my home in Florida. Apologies for not being more accurate in my conclusion. To be clear, this is a "nice to have" accessory, in my humble opinion. I hope that answers your question.
1. Any system that takes power from the PS5 will incur a heat debt. 2. The small reduction in temperature difference is an indicator of the effectiveness of the heat sink, as increasing airflow velocity/ volume can actually transfer less heat. 3. The ideal way to reduce the system heat would be to reduce the ambient temperature of the room or create a stand of say aluminium that has direct surface contact to the PS5 heat sink.
Is it actually the PSU turning the console into magma? I feel like that’s the part of the console that gets ridiculous because the bottom portion of my console is molten.
I feel like what this is mostly doing is just cooling off the hot air that’s already coming out of the system. Unless they’re more powerful than I think and they’re actually pulling air through faster
Bought a cooling fan for my Ps5 as my kids were playing on most of the day. It used to turn itself off because of the summer heat, with the cooler on its never turned itself off once since and that’s all day continuous playing.
My PS5 says it’s overheating and cuts off when I play 2K and that’s the only game it cuts off for so I’m wondering if this would work for it can someone lmk….
If I'm 100% honest, probably not. This is meant to help keep temps cooler, but not a full solution. You might have a faulty fan or the manufacturer did a faulty job on the thermal padding. The console should be able to run without this fan. It's simply an add-on.
Bro I literally just fixed this issue with 2K24, you have to thoroughly clean your system from dust. I disassembled the entire console and got all of the dust out. Follow a tutorial
Great video, but you might be wrong with the fan noise calculations since 70db is a vacuum cleaner as a reference. You may want to put the decibel 1 meter away from the fan for better calculation. Thanks
Have you tried different fans or only the ones that they sent you for free? Just to not be biased on that brand I feel like if they made a cooling system that somehow blew AC into the PlayStation that would be cool
Hi, i got a ps5 slim external fan and it doesn't really cool the ps5, its not that strong the 3 fans in the back and when i turn off the ps5 slim theres a slight delay then the fan on the back beeps & turns off, the fan doesn't have much power when its running. I don't know if i should completely disconnect the external fan or keep on the ps5 slim i feel like its going screw up the ps5?? 🤔
Ima need something like this cuz my room gets warm and the ps5 always gives me heat warnings I clean it the fan just doesn’t keep up for whatever reason
i had the ps4 for 5 years with no additional fans in a well ventilated area and never had issues was playing about 15-20 hours a week on avarege ...so are these really neccasarily ?
I installed a 3 fans exhaust to help dissipate heat but what happened is the fans itsef gets overheated including the usb that used for its power and it shuts off completely to protect itself from power surges at first I didn’t know from what I restarted the ps5 removed charging wire for controller usb headset everything narrowed it down to the fans I removed it never got the issue again, if there isn’t a problem don’t counter it by adding something might create it, get the faceplates they wont farm no wires attached install and play and it has dust filter which might help to reduce the amount of dust yes it will be more since there is 2 open hatches but more airflow just not the exhaust thing
@@yanwaspful this is the comment i was looking for it’s not logic i don’t know why he does that 😂 he was paid for this but he negociate for that he doesn’t want to lie to his fans
Ye nah, 70 db is absolutely insane lol. For like a degree of difference this is a no go for anyone. I don't care if you have your ps5 20 feet away from you.
@@dmo848 yeah lol. I work in acoustics. Anything above 60/65dB is very audible, even with closed headphones. 70 is just insane for those small fans. Probably shit quality with little to no airflow considering the reduction is just about one degree lmao. Like if they cooled down 10/12 degrees I could see the point, it'd be loud but it's working. But like this is just a rip off. Truth of the matter is that consoles should just start doing what PC cases have been doing for a little less than a decade now. Airflow holes/grills side panels with removable/magnetic meshes to capture dust. It doesn't take a genius. I don't understand why they are still doing these obviously bad close panels. Put at least a grill where the fan is located. That is the only way to impact performances cooling wise. Not these bs third party solutions that do more harm than good.
I had a digital and a disc edition. The disc has a fan and the digital did not. The digital overheated and shut off a couple times on me. Had to lower settings and go to performance mode. Never had one issue with the disc and fan. I think it works. Unless there a big different in cooling between disc and digital
Exactly. And no one else mentioned it. Because what most people do not know for sure is that the power unit inside the ps5 generates most heat and adding more strain to the power will increese that heat more.
These fans use barely any power lol. If you have a C- cable charging your controller from PS5 that’s using more power than the little fans that go on the back. And the heat that’s being moved out faster cancels out the tiny bit of extra power draw.
Took me a couple hours, but I took my PS five apart. It was dirty as crap turns on, but I did miss one silver bolt Hopefully that doesn’t hurt. It was definitely clogged up, especially in the power supply.
It depends is the short answer. Does it turn off indicating that it overheated? Then this could help. If not, then it might be a software issue. I'd factory reset the console and see if that fixes it.
@@freshprince0304 I had this problem myself, it’s the heatsink, I had this problem and I had to take the whole thing apart to clean the heatsink-battery and I never had the problem since
I don't think those work well. The console pulls air from the front and top. Fans from the bottom would help keep the bottom and exterior cool and wouldn't impact the intake or exhaust of the actual cooling system.
The artic fan was very disappointing. The fan does work but it stays on 24/7 even in standby mode unless you power the console all the way off. After 3 weeks when I turned on my PS5 the fan now makes weird loud noises sounding like the fans are struggling to get to operating speeds. Would not recommend
@@baldlyrudy yep I did adjust the settings so items plugged into the USB ports would not have power while in rest mode but it was a couple of weeks after that is when the noise started.
I'm seeing alot of faceplate for the ps5 that ha e fans as well are those worth it? Does anyone know? Also I keep mine in like a little cubby which has an open back but it still gets a little warm would it be worth it then? And do the ones in the video work for the slim?
@iiGhost_Killa Yeah bro unfortunately it’s prob your ps5 power supply my own ps5 had the same issue so I had to get a whole new ps5 slim idk how or why it happens all I can say is keep your playations horizontal from now on
Your mesurements are not accurate because that cooling gadgets emits its own pushed cool air out and because of it your thermometer will give a lower number, but that cool air is not whats coming out of the console unfortunately. The only viable cooling gadgets are the ones you mount below the console that are used as a vertical stand.
my ps5 is 6 months old and has maybe 200 hours on it and it gets soo hot i can feel the heat coming up from the ps5 under my desk...i just rebuilt my compter for this reason and kinda angry at sony for making such a shitty console
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I know this is on the older side, but I click the link for the fan and it brings me to a kickstarter page and I can’t seem to find where to purchase it from there. Where am I supposed to get the fan? 🫠
the USB powering the fans in Rest Mode is actually a setting you can change in Settings > System > Power Saving > Features available in Rest Mode > Supply Power to USB Ports.
I don't see any REST MODE for the PS5. 😕
@@SPOONtoma Sony either changed up the location or I forgot a step. Updated path...
Settings > System > Power Saving > Features available in Rest Mode > Supply Power to USB Ports
There is no way u can't find rest mods on your ps5 @@SPOONtoma
I’m a PS5 fan and I work 9-5. I think others work 12-8 and yet some others work 11-7
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One dad to another
Lmao 🤣
Ikr we're cool fans.
@baldlyrudy did you ever review ps5 cooling stand stations specifically one that ducks air out and blows air into the air
All these fans were blowing the air out without creating a balance of negative and positive air pressure. To properly regulate the air one end should blow in and the other end should blow out just like in PC’s.
You already have the one in it pulling air through
That is correct, and thats what i mentioned above, this only extract portion of hot air that would be extracted anyway, but what we need is something that will blow cool air in from below or other side.
Besides. 70 fn dBs my dudes. That's INSANE 😂😂😂. That's very loud, even if you use closed headphones. If this thing actually cooled things by like 10/15 degrees I could say "yeah it's loud but it works". These don't even cool anything 😂
Exactly ive done the same test he did but had one on top temps before where 125 after 5 hrs then i put the fans on the back and added a cooling base and one fan on top temps dropped to 87 then after an hr of gaming went to 95 an stayed there
Kid trying to be zen and making a math problem out of something so simple.. 😂
And he’s a pc kid to, just HAS to compare everything to PC.. wow 😅
In the PS5 settings you can have usb ports turn off during sleep mode, or stay on, turn them off, fan turns off.
Thanks!
Id be interested in using this in tandem with a top "pushing" fan or the g story faceplate "push fan" to actually have both intake and exhaust moving air at increased rates instead of just relying the exhaust draw doing all the work
I’ve got both of those and a top fan. It’s cool as can be on the top plates, moderately warm on the bottom, and hot coming out the back fan add on. Think I might add a cooling stand to it just for Funsies.
Hey Rudy, I'm not sure I understand your conclusion about this product. You say that it's worth it for the temp reduction, but in the data you presented the difference is minuscule (and in a larger dataset would be within the margin of error). Also, the temperatures without the extra fan are nowhere close to hitting a point where performance or durability would be impacted. I understand there's no way to capture the exact APU temperature, but I wouldn't be surprised that if we could, the difference with or without a fan would be imperceptible. Am I missing something?
To answer your question: Nope. You're not missing anything.
The fan will drop the temperature a degree or so Celsius on average. Is it enough to impact the performance of the console directly? Probably not. I agree that in the larger data set, this can definitely be in the margin of error. Even more so with the miniscule difference that I experienced in my home in Florida.
Apologies for not being more accurate in my conclusion. To be clear, this is a "nice to have" accessory, in my humble opinion. I hope that answers your question.
This is by far the most extensive review of the cooler, keep up the good work. I'm definitely getting one!
Thanks! I appreciate that! Feel free to share this with someone you know that has a PS5.
@@baldlyrudy Will do!
I plan to get one around the summer time ⏲️ 😌
2 degrees isn’t enough temperature difference for me to purchase this. I’m looking for 6 - 10 degrees of change. Any other options? Please help
take the covers off to let the fan breathe more, or buy side panels with fan cut outs that will drop several degrees easily
Dbrand dark plates do the job
1. Any system that takes power from the PS5 will incur a heat debt.
2. The small reduction in temperature difference is an indicator of the effectiveness of the heat sink, as increasing airflow velocity/ volume can actually transfer less heat.
3. The ideal way to reduce the system heat would be to reduce the ambient temperature of the room or create a stand of say aluminium that has direct surface contact to the PS5 heat sink.
I use a small table fan I put it in front of my ps5 it blows cool air at it and my ps5 seems much cooler from it
Had to wait a month for a faulty scry arctic cooler fan, and now I am not hearing back from them on a warranty replacement. This sucks..
It lowers the temp by 1 degree I was hoping for a lil more
Same. 🫠
Is it actually the PSU turning the console into magma? I feel like that’s the part of the console that gets ridiculous because the bottom portion of my console is molten.
I feel like what this is mostly doing is just cooling off the hot air that’s already coming out of the system. Unless they’re more powerful than I think and they’re actually pulling air through faster
What about the cooling stands? Any tests on those?
Stay away they most likely blow hot air back into the console when u want it to be out of there
The PS5 during spring and summer makes my room temperature go up a few degrees.
Just bought one I play for hours on end so it’s needed! And yes Florida we live in is hot lol
A proper test would be after 5 hrs of hard core gamming
With Horizon forbidden west playing
Bought a cooling fan for my Ps5 as my kids were playing on most of the day. It used to turn itself off because of the summer heat, with the cooler on its never turned itself off once since and that’s all day continuous playing.
@@LostInDistance could you comment a link or where you bought said cooling fan?
@@Suffino some people dont always order online. some of us go to places called, bargen bens.
The main fan would slow down as the rear fans are adding airflow. Thus the similar temps
My PS5 says it’s overheating and cuts off when I play 2K and that’s the only game it cuts off for so I’m wondering if this would work for it can someone lmk….
If I'm 100% honest, probably not. This is meant to help keep temps cooler, but not a full solution. You might have a faulty fan or the manufacturer did a faulty job on the thermal padding. The console should be able to run without this fan. It's simply an add-on.
Bro I literally just fixed this issue with 2K24, you have to thoroughly clean your system from dust. I disassembled the entire console and got all of the dust out. Follow a tutorial
Deep cleans your fans you lazy mofo
@@AllAccessBill yo bro did you fix this ? I’m having the issue and my ps5 is completely clean
Thats how a product review should look like! I just subscribed :)
Thank you! Much appreciated.
Great video, but you might be wrong with the fan noise calculations since 70db is a vacuum cleaner as a reference. You may want to put the decibel 1 meter away from the fan for better calculation. Thanks
Thanks. Much appreciated.
06:47 it's roughly 1.25 meters away.
@@baldlyrudy I think I've missed that part. 😅
All good. 🙌
A very good and thorough review. Nice
Hey! Thanks!
Have you tried different fans or only the ones that they sent you for free?
Just to not be biased on that brand I feel like if they made a cooling system that somehow blew AC into the PlayStation that would be cool
well maybe if it wasn’t drawing power from the console the console wouldn’t heat up more.
It gets the warm air out quicker thats all it does. So it wont efect inside temp duh
So true
CPU and GPU are still hot even with cooling fan
Hi, i got a ps5 slim external fan and it doesn't really cool the ps5, its not that strong the 3 fans in the back and when i turn off the ps5 slim theres a slight delay then the fan on the back beeps & turns off, the fan doesn't have much power when its running. I don't know if i should completely disconnect the external fan or keep on the ps5 slim i feel like its going screw up the ps5?? 🤔
For me the fans on my PS5 just stopped working for some reason
Its within margin of error so it basically makes almost no difference
Pretty much. 👍
Not sure if its worth the buy if it lowers the temp only by 1
I don't think it is. But that's just me.
probably the best you can do if you are in a hot country, plus adding in external fans maybe 😅
One °doesn't seem worth it might as well put a box fan on it 20 dollars send it
@@baldlyrudy You recommend it in the video.
Hey What's The Name Of This Cooling Fan
SCRY Artic Cooling Fan.
@@baldlyrudy Thanks
No worries. ✌️
Ima need something like this cuz my room gets warm and the ps5 always gives me heat warnings I clean it the fan just doesn’t keep up for whatever reason
@buteraa271 look into a local place that cleans them.
i had the ps4 for 5 years with no additional fans in a well ventilated area and never had issues was playing about 15-20 hours a week on avarege ...so are these really neccasarily ?
Nah.
kinda figured lol
Better (current) test for this would be to run System Shock Remake. Game runs the PS5 hotter than the sun for some reason.
I installed a 3 fans exhaust to help dissipate heat but what happened is the fans itsef gets overheated including the usb that used for its power and it shuts off completely to protect itself from power surges at first I didn’t know from what I restarted the ps5 removed charging wire for controller usb headset everything narrowed it down to the fans I removed it never got the issue again, if there isn’t a problem don’t counter it by adding something might create it, get the faceplates they wont farm no wires attached install and play and it has dust filter which might help to reduce the amount of dust yes it will be more since there is 2 open hatches but more airflow just not the exhaust thing
I'm confused, the data you posted showed roughly 1-2 degrees of difference? How is this a significant improvement?
It's not. 🫣
But you say it is worth the money? And you recommend?
@@yanwaspful this is the comment i was looking for it’s not logic i don’t know why he does that 😂 he was paid for this but he negociate for that he doesn’t want to lie to his fans
Ye nah, 70 db is absolutely insane lol. For like a degree of difference this is a no go for anyone. I don't care if you have your ps5 20 feet away from you.
That's almost as loud as a generator i have. So that's loud
@@dmo848 yeah lol. I work in acoustics. Anything above 60/65dB is very audible, even with closed headphones. 70 is just insane for those small fans. Probably shit quality with little to no airflow considering the reduction is just about one degree lmao. Like if they cooled down 10/12 degrees I could see the point, it'd be loud but it's working. But like this is just a rip off.
Truth of the matter is that consoles should just start doing what PC cases have been doing for a little less than a decade now. Airflow holes/grills side panels with removable/magnetic meshes to capture dust. It doesn't take a genius. I don't understand why they are still doing these obviously bad close panels. Put at least a grill where the fan is located. That is the only way to impact performances cooling wise. Not these bs third party solutions that do more harm than good.
+ Only 1°C lower?😮
It's a total waste of money, just like on PS4, those fans don't work. Thanks for saving me the $40 bucks!👍
Hence my statements in the early part of the video. And you're welcome. 👍
Wow I would've never thought that that actually works but ... Now I wanna know if it's also working for the ps5 slim
I had a digital and a disc edition. The disc has a fan and the digital did not. The digital overheated and shut off a couple times on me. Had to lower settings and go to performance mode. Never had one issue with the disc and fan. I think it works. Unless there a big different in cooling between disc and digital
Probably only if it’s plugged into an external power source instead of drawing more power from the ps5. Counter productive
Exactly. And no one else mentioned it. Because what most people do not know for sure is that the power unit inside the ps5 generates most heat and adding more strain to the power will increese that heat more.
These fans use barely any power lol. If you have a C- cable charging your controller from PS5 that’s using more power than the little fans that go on the back. And the heat that’s being moved out faster cancels out the tiny bit of extra power draw.
@@th3w1ldrov3r_ controller takes 3watts. No fan is running on 3watts
Helldivers 2 always makes my ps5 overheat so hopefully this helps
Did it help at all?
So does it help?
@@kawaiibatman it helped me
It helped!
Just got my ps5 a week ago not sure if i should get one of these just trying to keep as much life in it as i can
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Meh how come you don't talk about connections how much space is there from the port to the fan
absolute legend this is what i was looking for much appreciated subbed :D
Took me a couple hours, but I took my PS five apart. It was dirty as crap turns on, but I did miss one silver bolt Hopefully that doesn’t hurt. It was definitely clogged up, especially in the power supply.
Yeah. Dust builds up really quickly in there.
i bet it would be cooler with some dark plate 2.0
I’m trying to save for the ps5 so bad 😤😤
Would help
Mine over heats
Tell I pulled the covers off
70 decibels! So just at the level to start damaging your hearing?
@Baldlyrudy
Could you please test the NexiGo fan?
I have an issue with my ps5 turning off while using ps5 apps, do you think this would help? Or no
It depends is the short answer. Does it turn off indicating that it overheated? Then this could help. If not, then it might be a software issue. I'd factory reset the console and see if that fixes it.
I had this issue. This wouldn't help, you need to sell that PS5 and go buy a new one
@@baldlyrudy it never over heats. I can play all day, but as soon as i play a ps5 version game. Less than 20 minutes of playing it shuts off
@@dnizzy4191 you might be right man, $530 down the drain..
@@freshprince0304 I had this problem myself, it’s the heatsink, I had this problem and I had to take the whole thing apart to clean the heatsink-battery and I never had the problem since
Celsius > Fahrenheit
Whqt about fans that come from the bottom of the comsole not the back ? Pretty much a stand that has a fan built into it
I don't think those work well. The console pulls air from the front and top. Fans from the bottom would help keep the bottom and exterior cool and wouldn't impact the intake or exhaust of the actual cooling system.
But aren’t cooling fans bad thou? It’s pushing the air back inside where the air comes out.?
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The artic fan was very disappointing. The fan does work but it stays on 24/7 even in standby mode unless you power the console all the way off. After 3 weeks when I turned on my PS5 the fan now makes weird loud noises sounding like the fans are struggling to get to operating speeds. Would not recommend
Sounds like a bad ball bearing. Also, the fans can be turned off when in rest mode. There's a USB power setting that just needs to be changed.
@@baldlyrudy yep I did adjust the settings so items plugged into the USB ports would not have power while in rest mode but it was a couple of weeks after that is when the noise started.
I'm seeing alot of faceplate for the ps5 that ha e fans as well are those worth it? Does anyone know? Also I keep mine in like a little cubby which has an open back but it still gets a little warm would it be worth it then? And do the ones in the video work for the slim?
Would it put unnecessary stress on my ps5's power supply?
Probably not. It only uses 5v.
Bro can i buy any design of attaching cooling fan or i need to buy specific can u give me the best brand
Better off buying a small table fan and put it by the ps5 and run it while playing. Cheaper and does a better job
I just sit a tower fan in front of it,no more overheating!
So $60 for maybe ONE degree of difference in the internal temps? I don't think it's worth it. Pass
I bought this myself but it’s not helping didn’t last 5min in game also my ps5 is not dusty so idk what’s the problem
The liquid paste brother had the same
@iiGhost_Killa Yeah bro unfortunately it’s prob your ps5 power supply my own ps5 had the same issue so I had to get a whole new ps5 slim idk how or why it happens all I can say is keep your playations horizontal from now on
Yeah this is sad i thought i should buy the slim but reading the comments and seeing it myself its just awful
We just need it for slim version now
We do
1.1 degree max difference for 60$? I'm good.. not sure why you think this is worth it unless that company is paying you to say that 🤔
Your mesurements are not accurate because that cooling gadgets emits its own pushed cool air out and because of it your thermometer will give a lower number, but that cool air is not whats coming out of the console unfortunately. The only viable cooling gadgets are the ones you mount below the console that are used as a vertical stand.
Laptop cooling pad might work better. Imma have to try it😂
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That isn't great performance lol.
My ps5 runs at 125 degrees.. y are y’all ps5 are at 150 🤯.. that’s crazy
So hardly even 1⁰c change and you think this did a good job?
Pretty useless if it cools it down to 1 degree
1 celceus???
That's it?
That's it.
1C difference… rip
my ps5 is 6 months old and has maybe 200 hours on it and it gets soo hot i can feel the heat coming up from the ps5 under my desk...i just rebuilt my compter for this reason and kinda angry at sony for making such a shitty console
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no, as i dont have a PS5.
Well that'll stop you. 😅
USB A and USB port ❌
male and female ✅
what a horrible product!
1 degree lol. Gtfo.
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