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If a CPU was cooled to the point that it was effectively becoming a super conductor wouldn't that change the properties of the transistors, making them more conductive as well. It seems reasonable that they would then not be synchronized with the clock and then would function basically at all.
Silikon becomes superconductive at 0.35K as a quick Google search suggested. In Comparison, Liquid Helium sits at 4.2K, while Laser Cooling could get you down to 0.35K. As far as I know does laser cooling not provide the Power to cool bigger structures, so a micro chip should not be possible to cool down with that...
I'm wondering if superconductive transistors would be able to turn off. What would that graph look like which shows what the voltage across the transistor is based on gate voltage? They aren't simply on or off.
The CPU may not work well below -70C as the metals in the die will shrink too much, which will noticeably change its conductivity, the silicon transistors itself will require more energy as the valence gap is higher in the semiconductor atoms. Note: I spitting bullshit that may be correct.
Material Scientist engineering student here. Now i didnt do any background research on this just to make my comment however, from what i am aware of: getting your CPU to that low of a temeprature to enable it being near a superconductor temperatures would actually stop it from functioning properly. The semiconductor junctions inside your cpu would approach something called freeze-out (or ionization). In essense you stop the semiconductor junctions from being capable of moving carriers shorting the ICs. At 0K (not that youll get there) you wont have conduction. Edit: (no comments yet just adding some more info) rememeber this is semiconductors not metal materials and if you want to look this up quickly you can refer to "Inverse Temperature v. Carrier Concentration"
Came to say a dumbed down version of this 👆 Semiconductors should not operate at those temperatures otherwise people would be using those cryogenic refrigerators in data centers 💀
Having been deployed above the artic circle with laptops the real issue is not the cpu but the screens, plastic cases, storage etc becoming brittle and cracking in the extreme cold.
I don't really get it, heat vibrations are random so it should be impossible to lower their momentum with a laser, i would argue that pointing a laser should increase the net momentum of the particles Edit: I just read about it, it's actually super clever, so when they point a laser beam at the atoms, if the frequency is enough to excite the atom from it's ground state, it'll absorb the photon and it's momentum in the direction of the photon(direction of the laser will increase), but atoms vibrate randomly in all directions so normally this would cancel out, as expected. What we actually want is a way to somehow make the photos coming towards the direction of the laser absorb the photon, so that it gets slower, and we want the molecules moving away from the laser to be unaffected so that they don't gain momentum, we achieve this by taking Doppler effect into account, because of Doppler effect, the molecules moving in the direction of the laser will observe a slightly higher frequency, so the frequency of the actual beam can be set to be just slightly lower than the energy band gap, the particles moving away don't get excited because they observe a lower frequency and the molecules moving towards the laser get slower because of the increase due to Doppler effect
@@bakaneko6639 Oh, so you're saying you're rich? Well, let me break it down for you, Moneybags. Your wealth can't buy you any taste, class, or a sense of humor. But hey, at least you can drown your sorrows in expensive champagne while the rest of us enjoy a good laugh.
Another limitation to current cooling technology that I'd like to have seen explored in this video in PCs is the heat transfer efficiency of the materials and whole system between the actual transistors of the processor and your cooling material, be it water, liquid helium or something else. You would probably be able to get quite a bit more thermal efficiency out of your dry ice cooling if the heat spreader (IHS) on top of your CPU was a better material. And even if we remove the IHS and directly cool the die, the transistors are well below the material covering the whole die. To solve this, foundries like TSMC is coming up with solutions like etching micro channels in the die itself for water to reach closer to the transistors to cool them more efficiently.
Dude, that's insane! Just imagine how cost effective that would be. Or maybe, just maybe even a fan less cooling and thermal throttling, imagine how efficient it would be in terms of power drawing. The future is now dude
5:00 actually the risk is the water will pick up dirt/dust and other particles and then conduct electricity. If you could have everything without any dust or other similar things the water would basically be distilled water, and therefore not conduct electricity (then, overtime the water might dilute things like paint or erode a couple of metal particles from the motherboard/heatsinks and will eventually short xD but it takes a loooong time haha)
Thats what some Quantum Computers use. It won't be used for conventional silicon Computers, since it is so bad in Terms of Energy efficiency! Else they would use that already! In Addition to that is liquid Helium damn expensive, so you would probably Just use liquid nitrogen which is a bit cheaper but still inefficient. Btw that is the only reason why MRI Scans are so god damn expensive.
@@ValentinHhn Oh I’m not referring to stuff that crazy. I wish I remembered the name but I believe IBM was working on it and showcased it at a tech con few years ago. It’s purpose built to cool servers and such.
@@guitaristkuro8898 yes there is a solution for submerged server cooling but its just cheaper to run the regular AC units for the server room. you dont want to clean server modules every couple months just because the solution might get conductive (bits of pieces falling of the hardware mixing with the solution).
the AC thing may be a decent option, you would be able to pipe it into the CPU cooler in a case easily and then you pipe the hot air outside. just make sure to get a 2 pipe one. I guess it could be used to cool your pc first and then cool your room. though you can do what I do, turn on the whole home AC and then put your pc next to it so it gets cold air
Electricity costs make it an issue. Heating and cooling require a lot of watts. If you have a 500 watt PC with everything running, an ac cooling that computer may be equivalent to running a 1500-2000 watt system. Not to mention that 2000 watts is mighty close to your wall outlet plugs power limit, so the ac would have to be on a different breaker than your PC so you don't trip anything. No rides for free in life I'm afraid.
@@omegaprime516 I mean, there's countries where light bill isn't an issue, I have a 750w computer running with an AC on that very same room, what would really be the difference?
The water can only conduct electricity when there’s electrolytes in it, such as salt or magnesium or calcium or potassium, water itself is not conducive to
Fun fact: dry ice sublimates instead of melting which gives that vapor. Basically going from solid to gas because of its triple point. Also another fun fact is that, pure water is not conductive to electricity. Its when contaminants get into it which makes it conductive. Silica gel is good at absorbing moisture.
My old 2009 laptop was over heating so I needed to close it every 30 minutes and freezed it for 15 minutes and contunied. Also it had 2x4 Gb ddr3 1666mhz ram intel i5 3210m nvidia gt635 500 gb 5400rpm slow as hell hdd 17 inch 60hz 900p screen lenovo g780
9:29 no resistance means electrical reflections, basically bounces between PC components and individual transistors, introducing huge unwanted noise and system instability, especially at the frequencies used by modern computers. So 0 resistance is a hugely undesired effect
Someone should make a pc that uses crazy over-the-top parts similar to what this guy did for the cooling system in this video but for every piece of hardware
I'm sure someone else has already mentioned this, but cooling material down to superconducting states does allow flow of electricity through non-conductive materials, which would mean the electrical gates in your processor would not function properly and allow flow of electricity to areas you may not want it to.
Id like yo point out that straight water H2O is entirely non conductive. The reason it is conductive is the metallic impurities inside the water, for example, Iron, copper, zinc and calcium can be present in regular drinking water. Condensation normally contains these impurities still due to general localised cooling includes metallic gasses that can get dissolved into the water as it condensates.
2 large bags of ice, air flow pulling the coolness away. I can only imagine the condensation puddles. Not something I'd suggest repeating for viewers. You could leak water into the electronics, but still a fun experiment none the less.
Best cooling setup would be a bath of liquid acetone cooled by chunks of dry ice. That iced cocktail (shaken, not stirred) rapidly cools down anything it's bolted to. Just keep the acetone from evaporating and toss a new block of dry ice every now and then.
The condensation on the heat sink probably would not cause a short circuit. Since the water had condensed out of the air, it would be quite pure, meaning there would be nothing dissolved into it to carry charges. The reason you would want to avoid getting condensation on any electrical components is because it can oxidize electrical contacts, which can prevent current from flowing.
Another great way to avoid that is silica gel the thing you get when you buy new shoes it absorbs water meaning it could absorb the water from the condensation
If I ever build a house from scratch I will make a small closet behind my office wall and my PC will be placed in that closet with an A/C unit like this (or maybe just run a central AC duct into the closet). I'll just have an I/O panel on the office wall for my peripherals. I wonder how carbon/graphite pads would work at those low temperatures. It seems like they would not be affected adversely at all, but what do I know?
@@richardsmith9615 Its kinda complicated. It was tech that was invented many decades ago. It was one of those free energy generators. John Searl invented it using industrial tech working at a power plant. I can't remember everything about it. But things went pear shaped. The project was abandonded. He kept one device running in his home for 30 years or something getting free electric. He was told to turn it off by the government though. Ppl have tried to replicate the technology and have failed. There was a Russian guy that was close to replicating it. He managed to get the metal in the middle cold enough to see frost form at the top. Its all on youtube. The way it works is that the magnetic field gets so strong that it pulls the electrons right out of the metal and it gets colder. Need high RPM's though to do it.
water condensation can be directed by modifying the radiator, where there is no water, high-temperature silicone is used, and where heat exchange is to take place and where water condensation is to occur, the radiator is silicone-free
Imagine that laser cooling system being used for a superconducting zero friction joint on train wheels with AC frictionless motors being used. That sort of system could theoretically make it possible for a train on iron rails to travel at supersonic speeds.
We have magnalev and magnarails which can do that like your laser train idea. Problem with both is the amount of power you need to get those speeds, it increases exponentially.
Regular water is a conductor due to its mineral content (like salts). However, distilled water (with no minerals) is one of the best dialectic materials around. In fact in Nikola Tesla’s day, they typically made large capacitors using nothing but jars of distilled water as the dialectic barrier with a metal cathode and anode.
problem with porable A/C units is that they are generaly not A/Cs, they are swamp coolers. if heat is not comeing out in any way, and/or it requires refills, it is prob a swamp cooler.
The next step forward in cooling is the classic cooling system of a refrigerator inside a PC case. A sealed system of copper tubes has a quiet compressor and one common radiator blown by large, quiet fans.
No quantum computing is not the future of home pc. I am a researcher at quantum computing. It has vastly different purpose. Generally we use computers for repeated tasks meanwhile quantum computing is used more for high number crunching. We use matrix and qft to do the number crunching with qubits. The advantage of qubits is that it has 3 different stages that corresponds to magnetic spin of the fermions inside the atom. Only very few atoms can be suspended in space with laser cooling and it requires an enormous amount of time and resources to even do that. Also there is further cooling after laser cooling. After stopping the atoms and flushing the atoms at the higher temp away, you will switch off the lasers causing the atoms to expand once again causing the atoms to fall to an even lower energy level.
Dry ice sublimates to gas phase. It doesn't evaporate. Nice video though, gonna try something along these line myself, taking into consideration the moisture condensation ofc.
Okay with that all said and done, theres one question that still remains. Will the laser cooler be able to cool the 13900ks without thermal throttling the cpu while overclocked? Truly an immovable object meets omnipotent force moment.
every techbro wants to cool his tech with lasers, but i want to cool my house with a shark. ppl be like, his house is so cool theres even a shark in there🤩
Your house would start off unbelievably bright and progressively get darker (until house lighting took over) until the house is cooled to the programmed temp; As it converts infrared heat to light energy by exciting the molecules to a higher energy state. Just like battletech light emitting heatsinks the clans developed. It would work on that same principle. So if your ok (and your neighbors) with excessive light pollution (inside your house) for those moments before being cooled to the target temp, than your golden. If you don't mind the experience of being inside a light bulb, than you would probably hate what it could do with your body. If the lasers can interact and phase change air, it can and will affect your body. So you probably couldn't be inside your own home when it's on due to phase change in the body and possible melanoma skin cancer (as so e light emissions would surely be in the uv range). It probably wouldn't be safe to be in the area with it operating without a shit and eye protection (like welding goggles).
Dont worry, with the dry ice it's essentially just distilled water pulled directly from the air. Distilled water acts as an insulator. As long as your system is clean you wont get any conductors mixed into the water.
The electrodes inside the processor froze turning into the legendary material Frozen Lightning. Well done! You can now upgrade your Leviathan Axe with thunderous power by socketing this CPU.
The silicon wafer will break way before reaching even -80°C, we need to build different kind of materials to work in sub zero temperature. Second transistor requires some resistance to work otherwise it will not work as switch, so we need different kind of switching system. Cooling is not problem that is the reason in outer space we need heat source to protect CPU and other electronics. CPU require something entirely different concept ( quantum computer is not the answer because we require insanely low temperature which is not possible in case of home and we need millions of qubits to do something meaningful at the moment only 1000's qubits are available) which can transform computer completely.
Yesss what many people don't know is that quantum computer can't even run a basic Tetris game. But theoretically in future we could get way better computers this way
i have that slim and simple kind of pc and whenevrs it over heats it lay it down vertically and take a plate with a bit of water and full of ice cubes and put it on the cabinet for first time i was really suprised because the temps went down and my 5-8fps was boosted 🎉😊
But condensation is plain water, just H2O, which does not conduct electricity, no? It's the ions and minerals in the water that make it conductive. So condensation, or a little bit of it, is not a problem immediately, is it? As long as nothing conductive is dissolved in it?
@mryeester 07:10 if subzero temperatures spread so well around anything they touch... is thermal paste even needed anymore? it's suposed to just fill microscopic gaps between CPU and cooler... but with such low temperatures that "spread" to anything they touch... is it really necesary to use the thermal paste anymore?
Water does not conduct electricity, the minerals in the water do. Also space isn't quite "cold", space temperature depends on where you are, if you are close to sun (earth distances), you will become a fried chicken, but if you are in a completely empty space, you will just radiate your heat, there is nothing to take heat away from you in space.
the silicon wafer does not heat up evenly only at specific points, cooling the entire wafer and not the hot spots increases the temperature difference and cracks the silicon wafer
MANA superdonducting CPU is first of it's kind, bathing in liquid helium it achieves computation without energy loss Even with cooling it's 80x more efficient than existing processes In theory 1x1cm can endlessly cycle 10kW of power and scaled up dewar can fit much much more densely packed computing when modern EUV technology will be adapted
The new Tech which you talk of, the Laser cooling tech, wouldn't that have wider applications ?? Apply it wherever we can where heat is generated ?? Or does it specifically apply only to heat from electronics ?
By the way... that's not how AC units work. The temperature gauge at the top indicates the target temperature, not the temperature of the air being pumped out.
This is a pipe dream, but in the long forseable future we will see computers integrated into HVAC systems in some form. Can utilize the heat output in winter and A/C to cool PC in summer.
Won't the CPU completely cease to function when it reaches superconducting temperatures? Correct me if I'm not understanding this right but isn't the very point of having a _semi_ conductor is so you can send binary signals to form logic gates? If there's no resistance, effectively the moment you turn on the switch, it'll constantly output 1 and never 0. It'll be equivalent to a brain "operating at 100%", it doesn't make you smarter or better; it just gives you a seizure. Superconductors can work with quantum computers because qubits are effectively in a state of superposition of both 1 _and_ 0. Right?
The energy consumption for a cooling laser is nuts, let alone enough to cool a cpu directly, and ummm the power supply for the laser would be a heat source you’d need to cool as well, the whole thing is redundant. If you want to use laser cooling for something it’d have to be for a realllyyyyy specific reason
Why aren't there case fans as big as the side panel? I mean 200mm is big, but is not the size of most side panels. Just think, you'd have 1 fan to rule them all and you could direct airflow out the sides (or rather front and back).
That water won't conduct. BUT! It will carode as it evapurates. The particals in water make it conductive, but that's pure water, so it would be fine, just not long. Again, carosian from evapuration
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@@random_person618 @mryeester i know you can prove him wrong
i have a feeling that a laser cooler would be "slightly" more expensive than the cpu it will be used on
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and use more power
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@@M1szSand need cooling
Just slightly
If a CPU was cooled to the point that it was effectively becoming a super conductor wouldn't that change the properties of the transistors, making them more conductive as well. It seems reasonable that they would then not be synchronized with the clock and then would function basically at all.
Silikon becomes superconductive at 0.35K as a quick Google search suggested. In Comparison, Liquid Helium sits at 4.2K, while Laser Cooling could get you down to 0.35K. As far as I know does laser cooling not provide the Power to cool bigger structures, so a micro chip should not be possible to cool down with that...
I'm wondering if superconductive transistors would be able to turn off. What would that graph look like which shows what the voltage across the transistor is based on gate voltage? They aren't simply on or off.
The CPU may not work well below -70C as the metals in the die will shrink too much, which will noticeably change its conductivity, the silicon transistors itself will require more energy as the valence gap is higher in the semiconductor atoms.
Note: I spitting bullshit that may be correct.
@@ArmiaKhairyIve seen videos where they run cpu at -100 and lower
what if you just ran it so it doesnt get that cold
Material Scientist engineering student here.
Now i didnt do any background research on this just to make my comment however, from what i am aware of: getting your CPU to that low of a temeprature to enable it being near a superconductor temperatures would actually stop it from functioning properly.
The semiconductor junctions inside your cpu would approach something called freeze-out (or ionization). In essense you stop the semiconductor junctions from being capable of moving carriers shorting the ICs. At 0K (not that youll get there) you wont have conduction.
Edit: (no comments yet just adding some more info) rememeber this is semiconductors not metal materials and if you want to look this up quickly you can refer to "Inverse Temperature v. Carrier Concentration"
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@Gamer_fox6091 I aint reading all dat 🗿
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Came to say a dumbed down version of this 👆 Semiconductors should not operate at those temperatures otherwise people would be using those cryogenic refrigerators in data centers 💀
Having been deployed above the artic circle with laptops the real issue is not the cpu but the screens, plastic cases, storage etc becoming brittle and cracking in the extreme cold.
I look forward to seeing more of these! They’re fun and feel like something I would do at my workshop
i once accidentally put water on a PC board like the guy is doing in the video.
HA HA what fun, the cpu died within seconds.
I don't really get it, heat vibrations are random so it should be impossible to lower their momentum with a laser, i would argue that pointing a laser should increase the net momentum of the particles
Edit: I just read about it, it's actually super clever, so when they point a laser beam at the atoms, if the frequency is enough to excite the atom from it's ground state, it'll absorb the photon and it's momentum in the direction of the photon(direction of the laser will increase), but atoms vibrate randomly in all directions so normally this would cancel out, as expected. What we actually want is a way to somehow make the photos coming towards the direction of the laser absorb the photon, so that it gets slower, and we want the molecules moving away from the laser to be unaffected so that they don't gain momentum, we achieve this by taking Doppler effect into account, because of Doppler effect, the molecules moving in the direction of the laser will observe a slightly higher frequency, so the frequency of the actual beam can be set to be just slightly lower than the energy band gap, the particles moving away don't get excited because they observe a lower frequency and the molecules moving towards the laser get slower because of the increase due to Doppler effect
Just put your pc in the fridge.
would break the fridge, then u will have u buy new fridge every few days
Too rich to care
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@@bakaneko6639 Oh, so you're saying you're rich? Well, let me break it down for you, Moneybags. Your wealth can't buy you any taste, class, or a sense of humor. But hey, at least you can drown your sorrows in expensive champagne while the rest of us enjoy a good laugh.
Another limitation to current cooling technology that I'd like to have seen explored in this video in PCs is the heat transfer efficiency of the materials and whole system between the actual transistors of the processor and your cooling material, be it water, liquid helium or something else. You would probably be able to get quite a bit more thermal efficiency out of your dry ice cooling if the heat spreader (IHS) on top of your CPU was a better material. And even if we remove the IHS and directly cool the die, the transistors are well below the material covering the whole die. To solve this, foundries like TSMC is coming up with solutions like etching micro channels in the die itself for water to reach closer to the transistors to cool them more efficiently.
This man deserves all the awards for how high quality and awesome his informative videos are. Keep it up :]
bro! the play button is in the background for a reason 😁😁
The quality isn't bad, but I know a lot of UA-camrs with better quality.
@@technischesgaming he is talking about quality of videos, u answering about the quality of content
@@echelonrank3927 Were is the difference?
@@technischesgaming somewhere between the awesome quality of filming and editing, and the average quality of technical info
imagine a cooling system that uses paper
Dude, that's insane! Just imagine how cost effective that would be.
Or maybe, just maybe even a fan less cooling and thermal throttling, imagine how efficient it would be in terms of power drawing.
The future is now dude
Yo, imagine a cooling system that uses a liquid system. That would be sick.
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@@antifinance holy shit! That thing exists!!!!! And it can be bought for under 1000$!!!!! Holy fuck, now that's straight up from the future dudes
Imagine an entirely paper pc- the only one I can afford 😂
5:00 actually the risk is the water will pick up dirt/dust and other particles and then conduct electricity. If you could have everything without any dust or other similar things the water would basically be distilled water, and therefore not conduct electricity (then, overtime the water might dilute things like paint or erode a couple of metal particles from the motherboard/heatsinks and will eventually short xD but it takes a loooong time haha)
Was looking for this comment lmao
*me applying flex seal to the motherboard
I think the fully submerged cooling system in fluid is just funny but also definitely how most server rooms will be cooled over fans.
Thats what some Quantum Computers use. It won't be used for conventional silicon Computers, since it is so bad in Terms of Energy efficiency! Else they would use that already! In Addition to that is liquid Helium damn expensive, so you would probably Just use liquid nitrogen which is a bit cheaper but still inefficient. Btw that is the only reason why MRI Scans are so god damn expensive.
That's how they cool transformers
@@ValentinHhn Oh I’m not referring to stuff that crazy. I wish I remembered the name but I believe IBM was working on it and showcased it at a tech con few years ago. It’s purpose built to cool servers and such.
@@guitaristkuro8898 yes there is a solution for submerged server cooling but its just cheaper to run the regular AC units for the server room. you dont want to clean server modules every couple months just because the solution might get conductive (bits of pieces falling of the hardware mixing with the solution).
DIY PERKS did create that set up once , u can watch his video if you are interested in trying it out.
You couldn't find some liquid nitrogen??? What am I paying you for?
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Just submerge the cpu into the liquid nitrogen as they are not conductive so it's not a problem
@@Mememeteorite this guy gets it
the AC thing may be a decent option, you would be able to pipe it into the CPU cooler in a case easily and then you pipe the hot air outside.
just make sure to get a 2 pipe one.
I guess it could be used to cool your pc first and then cool your room.
though you can do what I do, turn on the whole home AC and then put your pc next to it so it gets cold air
Electricity costs make it an issue. Heating and cooling require a lot of watts. If you have a 500 watt PC with everything running, an ac cooling that computer may be equivalent to running a 1500-2000 watt system. Not to mention that 2000 watts is mighty close to your wall outlet plugs power limit, so the ac would have to be on a different breaker than your PC so you don't trip anything.
No rides for free in life I'm afraid.
@@omegaprime516 I mean, there's countries where light bill isn't an issue, I have a 750w computer running with an AC on that very same room, what would really be the difference?
The water can only conduct electricity when there’s electrolytes in it, such as salt or magnesium or calcium or potassium, water itself is not conducive to
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Fun fact: dry ice sublimates instead of melting which gives that vapor. Basically going from solid to gas because of its triple point.
Also another fun fact is that, pure water is not conductive to electricity. Its when contaminants get into it which makes it conductive. Silica gel is good at absorbing moisture.
My old 2009 laptop was over heating so I needed to close it every 30 minutes and freezed it for 15 minutes and contunied.
Also it had 2x4 Gb ddr3 1666mhz ram
intel i5 3210m
nvidia gt635
500 gb 5400rpm slow as hell hdd
17 inch 60hz 900p screen
lenovo g780
open that up and reapply thermal paste lol
Hey op the i5 3210m came out in 2012... I think you mean 3210m
I changed it thanks @peterwoods8299
9:29 no resistance means electrical reflections, basically bounces between PC components and individual transistors, introducing huge unwanted noise and system instability, especially at the frequencies used by modern computers. So 0 resistance is a hugely undesired effect
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I didnt really put it together before this video, but essentially laser cooling is adjacent to tractor beams from science fiction, isn't it?
Someone should make a pc that uses crazy over-the-top parts similar to what this guy did for the cooling system in this video but for every piece of hardware
overclockers do this all the time, it's not practical for day-to-day use
Just imagining how efficient the system is doing that. 😂
I'm sure someone else has already mentioned this, but cooling material down to superconducting states does allow flow of electricity through non-conductive materials, which would mean the electrical gates in your processor would not function properly and allow flow of electricity to areas you may not want it to.
This video was just great, love it and the sound track as well.
Id like yo point out that straight water H2O is entirely non conductive. The reason it is conductive is the metallic impurities inside the water, for example, Iron, copper, zinc and calcium can be present in regular drinking water. Condensation normally contains these impurities still due to general localised cooling includes metallic gasses that can get dissolved into the water as it condensates.
I love how u showed what a qubit is, it's simple but efficient to understand!
2 large bags of ice, air flow pulling the coolness away. I can only imagine the condensation puddles. Not something I'd suggest repeating for viewers. You could leak water into the electronics, but still a fun experiment none the less.
Best cooling setup would be a bath of liquid acetone cooled by chunks of dry ice. That iced cocktail (shaken, not stirred) rapidly cools down anything it's bolted to. Just keep the acetone from evaporating and toss a new block of dry ice every now and then.
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9:45 this feels like going underwater with a pc case wich is entirely closed, since it doesnt need cool air from the outside...
The condensation on the heat sink probably would not cause a short circuit. Since the water had condensed out of the air, it would be quite pure, meaning there would be nothing dissolved into it to carry charges. The reason you would want to avoid getting condensation on any electrical components is because it can oxidize electrical contacts, which can prevent current from flowing.
What about stuff on the heat sink getting in the ice itself and then in the CPU
I love the detail at 0:10 where the temperature stops at -273 degree celcius as it's the rounded absolute zero temperature
I hate physics and chemistry but i love that we know these kind of "easter eggs"
Another great way to avoid that is silica gel the thing you get when you buy new shoes it absorbs water meaning it could absorb the water from the condensation
Dessicants don't work that well in an open environment I'm assuming
In the intro, i love that you cut it exactly at 273, Absolute zero. Fantastic
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If I ever build a house from scratch I will make a small closet behind my office wall and my PC will be placed in that closet with an A/C unit like this (or maybe just run a central AC duct into the closet). I'll just have an I/O panel on the office wall for my peripherals. I wonder how carbon/graphite pads would work at those low temperatures. It seems like they would not be affected adversely at all, but what do I know?
Another wild idea for cooling metal is the John Searl effect.
Magnets spinning round non magnetic neodymium cools it down to below freezing.
I have never heard of that before! Very cool, is that what they use in the lab experiments to approach absolute zero?
@@richardsmith9615 Its kinda complicated. It was tech that was invented many decades ago. It was one of those free energy generators. John Searl invented it using industrial tech working at a power plant. I can't remember everything about it. But things went pear shaped. The project was abandonded. He kept one device running in his home for 30 years or something getting free electric. He was told to turn it off by the government though.
Ppl have tried to replicate the technology and have failed. There was a Russian guy that was close to replicating it. He managed to get the metal in the middle cold enough to see frost form at the top.
Its all on youtube.
The way it works is that the magnetic field gets so strong that it pulls the electrons right out of the metal and it gets colder. Need high RPM's though to do it.
@@buchanpeter I appreciate the explanation, my friend. I'll have to look it up in detail. Thanks
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@@brandon9172 I looked it up, it's not fake, it's possible that its efficacy is exaggerated, but the principle is not fake.
water condensation can be directed by modifying the radiator, where there is no water, high-temperature silicone is used, and where heat exchange is to take place and where water condensation is to occur, the radiator is silicone-free
Please do more long form videos! They are so interesting and I learnt a lot!
Imagine that laser cooling system being used for a superconducting zero friction joint on train wheels with AC frictionless motors being used. That sort of system could theoretically make it possible for a train on iron rails to travel at supersonic speeds.
We have magnalev and magnarails which can do that like your laser train idea. Problem with both is the amount of power you need to get those speeds, it increases exponentially.
So for those who don't understand, before doing anything, your components heat can't go velow 7C° or it will be damaged
Regular water is a conductor due to its mineral content (like salts). However, distilled water (with no minerals) is one of the best dialectic materials around. In fact in Nikola Tesla’s day, they typically made large capacitors using nothing but jars of distilled water as the dialectic barrier with a metal cathode and anode.
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4:25 isn't it technically distilled
Honestly I like the smile on you face and the passion you put in your videos thank you rasta
i love your work, i did not know you did videos, keep it up man
problem with porable A/C units is that they are generaly not A/Cs, they are swamp coolers. if heat is not comeing out in any way, and/or it requires refills, it is prob a swamp cooler.
Great video! Slight nitpick though; dry ice sublimates, as it goes directly from solid to gas. Evaporation is when a liquid becomes a vapor
Just bring your PC in Antarctica and play some games
First time I see a video from you that not a short. So happy :)
The next step forward in cooling is the classic cooling system of a refrigerator inside a PC case.
A sealed system of copper tubes has a quiet compressor and one common radiator blown by large, quiet fans.
No quantum computing is not the future of home pc. I am a researcher at quantum computing. It has vastly different purpose. Generally we use computers for repeated tasks meanwhile quantum computing is used more for high number crunching. We use matrix and qft to do the number crunching with qubits. The advantage of qubits is that it has 3 different stages that corresponds to magnetic spin of the fermions inside the atom. Only very few atoms can be suspended in space with laser cooling and it requires an enormous amount of time and resources to even do that. Also there is further cooling after laser cooling. After stopping the atoms and flushing the atoms at the higher temp away, you will switch off the lasers causing the atoms to expand once again causing the atoms to fall to an even lower energy level.
Dry ice sublimates to gas phase. It doesn't evaporate. Nice video though, gonna try something along these line myself, taking into consideration the moisture condensation ofc.
Okay with that all said and done, theres one question that still remains. Will the laser cooler be able to cool the 13900ks without thermal throttling the cpu while overclocked? Truly an immovable object meets omnipotent force moment.
Laser cooling is an interesting idea. Makes me wonder if one day I can cool my house with lasers instead of air conditioner?
Don’t look at it
Just imagine they are pushing your molecules and you cant move..
PLEASE dont take this seriously I am just joking
every techbro wants to cool his tech with lasers, but i want to cool my house with a shark.
ppl be like, his house is so cool theres even a shark in there🤩
@Katlyst_ wait i can float *stary eyes and joy*
*sees read more* ? whats this
*sadness*
Your house would start off unbelievably bright and progressively get darker (until house lighting took over) until the house is cooled to the programmed temp; As it converts infrared heat to light energy by exciting the molecules to a higher energy state.
Just like battletech light emitting heatsinks the clans developed. It would work on that same principle. So if your ok (and your neighbors) with excessive light pollution (inside your house) for those moments before being cooled to the target temp, than your golden.
If you don't mind the experience of being inside a light bulb, than you would probably hate what it could do with your body. If the lasers can interact and phase change air, it can and will affect your body. So you probably couldn't be inside your own home when it's on due to phase change in the body and possible melanoma skin cancer (as so e light emissions would surely be in the uv range).
It probably wouldn't be safe to be in the area with it operating without a shit and eye protection (like welding goggles).
Also there's interesting tech. called nanorectenna. Basically it's consume infrared light and turn it to electricity. But it's still work-in-progress.
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Dont worry, with the dry ice it's essentially just distilled water pulled directly from the air. Distilled water acts as an insulator. As long as your system is clean you wont get any conductors mixed into the water.
The electrodes inside the processor froze turning into the legendary material Frozen Lightning. Well done! You can now upgrade your Leviathan Axe with thunderous power by socketing this CPU.
Finally after many weeks a video instead of a short.
The silicon wafer will break way before reaching even -80°C, we need to build different kind of materials to work in sub zero temperature. Second transistor requires some resistance to work otherwise it will not work as switch, so we need different kind of switching system. Cooling is not problem that is the reason in outer space we need heat source to protect CPU and other electronics. CPU require something entirely different concept ( quantum computer is not the answer because we require insanely low temperature which is not possible in case of home and we need millions of qubits to do something meaningful at the moment only 1000's qubits are available) which can transform computer completely.
Yesss what many people don't know is that quantum computer can't even run a basic Tetris game. But theoretically in future we could get way better computers this way
we need a gaming video with that dry ice cooling system
Pure/Distilled water is actually a horrible conductor... but the moisture in the air (from condensation) will have particles in it.
you have earned a sub bro, learned a lot in this video too
i have that slim and simple kind of pc and whenevrs it over heats it lay it down vertically and take a plate with a bit of water and full of ice cubes and put it on the cabinet for first time i was really suprised because the temps went down and my 5-8fps was boosted 🎉😊
Cooler with automatic dry ice maker and Isolated from Condensation will be Created in the Future.
nice to see something like this, this was always my dream, but i failed the study - tickels me from time to time
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But condensation is plain water, just H2O, which does not conduct electricity, no? It's the ions and minerals in the water that make it conductive. So condensation, or a little bit of it, is not a problem immediately, is it? As long as nothing conductive is dissolved in it?
Yeester you’re the man. I love these experiments!
HOLY SHIT WHY ARE YOU TOUCHING THE DRY ICE WITH BARE HANDS
I really would have liked to see the effects on the PC being stress tested at these ultra low temps.
I cooled my overheating ps4 for a while with that boxfan and icepack strat, worked great
Whats the name of the song at 3:10?
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Why does UA-cam say 1 reply there’s no answer what the heck
For me it said 2 before I comented
Tiger tracks
@@maxc300es Thanks mate
What happens when you touch dry ice to a cpu while it is under a stress test?
Fun fact, if you set the portable a unit to heat rather than cool, you get cold air out the back and don't need the duct tape an elbow grease...
@mryeester 07:10 if subzero temperatures spread so well around anything they touch... is thermal paste even needed anymore? it's suposed to just fill microscopic gaps between CPU and cooler... but with such low temperatures that "spread" to anything they touch... is it really necesary to use the thermal paste anymore?
This is interesting considering most people immediately consider particle beams and lasers to be used for melting and heating only.
Boy am I so glad that the temperature standard for PC's is celcius.
same
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Water does not conduct electricity, the minerals in the water do. Also space isn't quite "cold", space temperature depends on where you are, if you are close to sun (earth distances), you will become a fried chicken, but if you are in a completely empty space, you will just radiate your heat, there is nothing to take heat away from you in space.
cpu is so cold that now we need to heat it 🥶
the silicon wafer does not heat up evenly only at specific points, cooling the entire wafer and not the hot spots increases the temperature difference and cracks the silicon wafer
MANA superdonducting CPU is first of it's kind, bathing in liquid helium it achieves computation without energy loss
Even with cooling it's 80x more efficient than existing processes
In theory 1x1cm can endlessly cycle 10kW of power and scaled up dewar can fit much much more densely packed computing when modern EUV technology will be adapted
I deleded my 13900k and using a normal 360 aio never go above 77 degrees when using cinebench23 while cpu consume 350watt very impressive
The new Tech which you talk of, the Laser cooling tech, wouldn't that have wider applications ??
Apply it wherever we can where heat is generated ??
Or does it specifically apply only to heat from electronics ?
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By the way... that's not how AC units work. The temperature gauge at the top indicates the target temperature, not the temperature of the air being pumped out.
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At a LAN party I helped a friend with a mini fan, paper clips, a pot and lots of ice to help him continue playing. in summer and it was a laptop
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Whats wrong?
@@yako9992 Nothinf
The ac thermostat doesn’t control the air temperature coming out of the unit, it tells the unit when to turn off based on the input air temperature.
This is a pipe dream, but in the long forseable future we will see computers integrated into HVAC systems in some form. Can utilize the heat output in winter and A/C to cool PC in summer.
THE TEMPERATURE DID SOUND GOOD WITHOUT STRESS ON IT
Won't the CPU completely cease to function when it reaches superconducting temperatures? Correct me if I'm not understanding this right but isn't the very point of having a _semi_ conductor is so you can send binary signals to form logic gates? If there's no resistance, effectively the moment you turn on the switch, it'll constantly output 1 and never 0. It'll be equivalent to a brain "operating at 100%", it doesn't make you smarter or better; it just gives you a seizure. Superconductors can work with quantum computers because qubits are effectively in a state of superposition of both 1 _and_ 0. Right?
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You have a great voice man! Love the videos
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ive been using dryice and ln2 since i was 14 for extreme oc.
Also, liquid metal is not paste ;)
The energy consumption for a cooling laser is nuts, let alone enough to cool a cpu directly, and ummm the power supply for the laser would be a heat source you’d need to cool as well, the whole thing is redundant. If you want to use laser cooling for something it’d have to be for a realllyyyyy specific reason
wait....if you make semi conductors become superconductors, then you might as well computing with a copper plate?
Never blow air at your hot computer, you need the fan to remove the heat not blow on it, what happens when you blow on fire?
3:10 That CPU is certainly NOT hitting -60/70 with a small block of dry ice laying on the heatsink.. Stopped watching right here
Your content is awesome, bro. keep it up .
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very epic and entertaining but that mic tho, other than that this is very nice i love it 😊
Distilled water is non-conductive. Great video!
Why aren't there case fans as big as the side panel? I mean 200mm is big, but is not the size of most side panels. Just think, you'd have 1 fan to rule them all and you could direct airflow out the sides (or rather front and back).
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That water won't conduct. BUT! It will carode as it evapurates. The particals in water make it conductive, but that's pure water, so it would be fine, just not long. Again, carosian from evapuration
I wonder if you can say, build a small tank around the CPU and pour liquid nitrogen or like a liquified inert gas.
If you think about it, the water condensing is just distilled pure water, which is non-conductive!