PS5's Have a Liquid Metal Problem - But It May Not Be What You Think
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PS5's Have a Liquid Metal Problem - But It May Not Be What You Think - The recent talk about issues from keeping your PS5 vertical prompted me to make this video checking out 3 PS5s to see the condition of the thermal paste and if I find that any has leaked out. I'm also trying to fix a PS5 that I paid $260 for that randomly turns off while a game is being played.
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nice efforts again! when my ps5 started to shut off while playing from overheating there was no message. i had to remove the power cord and then do a hdd repair on both drives and read the message that the unit was not shut down properly . it ran for 16 months 24/7 and the fan was quite dusty and heatsink was plugged with dust. i didnt check the liquid metal since the cleaning of the fan and heatsink fixed the shutting down.
I found you can rotate out the main board assembly to about 75 degrees angle leaving the metal shielding undisturbed. Once there, you can easily blow out the heatsinks and PSU with an electric blower. To do this you need to leave the IO ribbon cable attached and IO board installed. Just be careful that you don't put the IO ribbon under pressure. If you are careful and maintain observation with the still attached ribbon cable, you can easily rotate out the main PCB for heatsink cleaning. I tend to put a little contact cleaner on the PSU spikes once air dusting is complete to ensure best PSU connectivity.
Really loving the recent editing style. Great transitions!
The PS5 was fine, it just REALLY didn't want to play Horizon Forbidden West.
Lol, apparently!
What's wrong with Horizon?
It’s just the trial version and he has 0% progress and 0 trophies so he just turns it on and let’s it run I assume.
Can I substitute the liquid metal with thermal paste ????
My friend had the same problem with the launch spider man
Whenever you mentioned ifixit tools, you reminded me of the time when I cleaned and repasted my old laptop several years ago. Thanks to their instruction video and tools, I did it very well although it was my first time. I got more comfortable cleaning laptop and doing thermal paste since then. Also cool shirt you got there.
What type of tool would you/anyone recommend to clean/reposition the liquid metal with?
I'd love to know the amount of times you've undone those 40 completely necessary screws.
Man even thinking about it annoys me. It's not all about doing it tho it's the fact that you have to be careful you don't lose these 43 screws
get a magnetic white pad you can write on with sharpy, draw a diagram of where each screw came from and you never lose a screw@@Alirezarz62
@@Alirezarz62 if u get a magnetic tray it will change your life :)
I would assume based on the 1st PS5's symptoms that the PSU thermal protection was kicking in before the APU, hence no overheating message and just plain shutting down.
This seems very likely in my case. Never seen the over heating message, but still the same symptoms.
Explain? My PS5 is a launch model and it’s suffering the same symptoms, no message at all. Just POOF! power off.
A got the same at the weekend no message just turned off and wouldn't turn back on so changed fuse in plug and she came to life but you could feel the heat coming off it so went on amazon bought a small precision set with security torx and just striped the ps5 down today took me 3 hours as its my first time and my fan heat sink and power supply where full of dust and cat hair cleaned it all out and she is running really quite so quite that a had to double check that I reconnected the fan lol so if you guys are having the same issue strip it down and clean it 1 tip you don't need to take the shield off or the heatsink once you have it striped down enough flip it over and take the 2 screws out so you can remove it in one piece to clean and not worry about the liquid metal running everywhere
@@zmman9243 same launch model. Just had same issue. Did you end up sending yours back or did u find a fix ?
Day 1 first batch ps5 here and no issues at all
Nice editing job, Steve. I love the zoom animation. 👍
that dry spot is where the heat sits when you shut it down immediately after hours of playing. i make it a habit to cool down my consoles for like 3-5 minutes before shutting them down. my 14yr old ps3 slim 6 yr old ps4 slim runs like new on their stock thermal paste. now that i have the ps5, i'm making sure to cool it down before turning it off to disipate the heat inside.
is the liquid metal dry on the same area of the apu every time? Could it be gravity?
It looked like as you cleaned oxidation off the APU that the remaining liquid metal looked "chunky". Was oxidation being left behind?
I have not had any problems with my console. And I believe it's one of the original launch models. I've never seen a single overheating message. I guess I am a bit OCD when it comes to cleaning game consoles and keeping them running cool for longer game sessions.
Yea me either plus my stuff never gets dusty, but then again I don't use consoles that much anymore
I think keeping it clean is going to really help its longevity
@@dailygamer6630 time to change that user name then ;)
What is that little brush you used to spread the Liquid Metal around? Or was it just a black qtip?
Mine has been having this issue for about a month and a half now im glad there is away to fix it
is it really necessary for a PS5 to use liquid metal ? normal thermal compound does not cool it enough ?
The thing is is not all parts of the die have thermometers so if there’s a dry spot and thus a hot spot it may not detect a high temp but detect too many errors that result from a high temp and turn it off, similar to how bsod’s are triggered on windows
I got silly question. Can we just replace the liquid metal with normal thermal paste?
Does this problem only occur with the original day one model ps5's? I have the god of war bundle, just curious if I can put mine vertical.
I'm not surprised, seems like launch systems have issues. I bought a launch PS1 and laser was a poor design and eventually failed. My PS5 controllers have stick drift, I tore them apart and cleaned the sticks with electronics cleaner.
I see alot of people asking. Yes vacuuming the holes helps but it's minimal I guess it's peace of mind only. I've vacuumed the holes on mine but it was still caked on the fan. Cleaning the fan is not fun it really gets caked up even if you dust it off. I have hepa air purifier in every room it helps but still gets dusty and caked up. I blow my ps5 out as well as all the pcs/laptops every 3 to 6 months. I've cleaned 8 PS5 for people as a service in my town and the fan is always caked in each household the heatsinks are usually not that bad seems like the fan design just loves collecting lint and dust.
you use a leaf blower on ps5 without taking it apart?
The issue is the PS5 so massive and unwieldy it’s hard to put somewhere efficiently. Hope a slim model comes out ASAP.
I'm just glad people everywhere are taking to regular maintenance of their systems nowadays instead of just letting something die and assume it's reached the end of its life cycle to just get a new one.
Cause if there's one thing we all know, these companies aren't making the devices we love for long and when something goes wrong, you'd typically want to start again with the same product you had before.
Can anyone explain to me, why don't processors come soldered directly inside the cooler?
it seems like it would bypass all these issues.. Its not like anyone will change the stock PS5 cooler with a different one (like you maybe would with a PC cpu)
is it a dry spot? have been wondering. is it not just a clamping problem where there is direct contact between the silicon and heat sink that squishes the liquid metal away. however the oxidation is not good as it will damage the mounting surface on the heat sink
Depends where the temp sensor is. It could be some place else than the dry spot, so no overheating message, just thermal protection kicking in at last second, before APU burns itself
then It's a poor design if that sensor is not catching actual overheating
@@ceramicmagic4169 this is the ps3 all over again, ps4 pro was perfect yet sony messed everything up again for their inventive fetish
@@ceramicmagic4169 That will be on AMD side of things for the sensors as it is there chips not Sony's they cant change the chips. But the problem of it has gone away so it must of been a way Sony was applying the liquid metal or brand of it as this problem only affected early models so Sony did change something to fix it.
Is that what my issue is? I’ve had a PS5 since launch and my console will run PS5 games for about 30-45 minutes and then turn off. I’ve tried deep cleaning, rebuilding the database, wiping the console clean etc. Has anyone else overcame the overheating issues or should I just purchase a new model?
Any video involving Steve and a PS5, my favorite moment is the "43 totally necessary screws" lol.
Is this for the disc console or the digital console? I just bought a digital console last week but I haven't opened it yet, it's just in its box but standing upright, should I lay the box down?
Nice one. This is reminding me that I should do a good cleaning on my PS5. Mine is a launch disc system that’s been horizontal the whole time due to the space I have for it. No problems and runs pretty quiet during play. Fingers crossed it stays that way.
Hi could tell me if your working PS5 is a 1000, 1100 or 1200 model please? (It's written under the PS5
He mentioned that he had the ps5 since launch. So his ps5’s definitely the 1000 model. Also the most recent ps5 model is 1200 so I don’t know where your 1600 came from
@@ColdFuego- Yes, its a CFI-1015A.
@@ColdFuego-
(edit July The 3th)
Thanx : Investigation results still now :
Investigation results still now :
12XX without problem : 7 gamers
10XX without problem 7 gamers
10xx shut down after 2 years (fixed by cleaning the internal power supply from dust) : 2 gamers
1116A without problem 2 gamer
1116A/B WITH CRASH SHUT DOWN PROBLEMS : 8 gamers (!!!)
1115B (digital version) without problem 1 gamer
It's not a lot but it's intéressant to see that the most gamers (almost 100%) who have issue are on the 1100 model for the moment.
@@ColdFuego- (1600 was a mistake I wanted to write 1200, I've edited)
I just got my ps5(owned before by someone else). It immediately had this problem. I have it fixed for now but once I get the tools I’m definitely giving it a good cleaning. So helpful 😊
I'm just curious can you buy liquid metal much like you could thermal paste?
Any ideas how to fix my PS5? Controllers won't connect while the console is on but they will only connect while in safe mode through the cable
43 totally necessary screws got me laughing pretty good lol
I asked a friend of mine, who works at a game store, about the whole ‘dripping liquid metal’ thing and he said that one of the guys at the out-of-warranty repair place they use said one of the most common issues with PS5s is dry spots on the chips like this video states. The repairer thinks that most vertically placed moderately used PS5s, especially launch ones, probably have a lifespan of about 3 to 4 years before they’ll encounter dry spots on the APU. He thinks that Sony didn’t really plan for longevity with the design of the PS5. If this turns out to be true it won’t be a good look for Sony, especially considering that all of their marketing for the PS5 has it placed vertically. I’ve had mine for just over a year now and have it vertical due to lack of space in my entertainment unit. I’m curious to see if I run into any issues in the long term.
Have you forgotten the RROD? I was burning through 360s in months not years(I went through 5 of them all told), and I wasn't alone. Every single solitary person I know who had a 360 had at least one RROD. As long as a platform has good games, and eventually owns up to their mistake(MS denied the RROD problem for nearly a year) "gamers" will be very forgiving of that platform.
tell your friend to inform people about attaching dust filters, any dust in the console would wreck the liquid metal and there will be thermal imbalance, L console
@@CDRaff ps3 was worse
Pumpout issue like with low-viscosity thermalpaste on GPUs? Seeing the the PS5 is also heatsink on direct die similar to GPUs.
That transition was fire!
Do you think that people who keep their PS5 vertical are at greater risk of the liquid metal moving about? LOL, I see that you answered this at the end of the video....I thought so. Thanks!!!
From watching your buddy The Cod3r, I have gotten the impression that the liquid metal gets out of place largely due to dropping the unit. The shock makes it splatter. It gets all over the place and shorts things out. If you lay the PS5 horizontally, it is in a more stable position and is less likely to get knocked off the entertainment center onto the floor. So whether it is just gravity or dropping that causes the problem with the liquid metal, laying horizontally is an improvement.
can you remove the liquid metal andput thermalpaste there instead?
Isn’t it possible that the PS5s just sitting and not being used is what’s causing the dry spots? I think you need a control case, meaning a vertical PS5 that’s actively used or at least in sleep mode in order to see how the Liquid Metal behaves.
Have you tried replacing liquid metal with good thermal paste or the difference in temps will be too much?
I was actually thinking of doing this.
@@matthewward5849 You will be able to use it for a maximum of 10 minutes and you will be warned of high temperature, the recommended is liquid metal and not thermal paste.
Either he made the video or someone else did on replacing the liquid metal with thermal paste and it does not work
I still wonder if one could mix both thermal paste n liquid metal blunding it, than apply so it's not runny like that
How can I tell if my ps5 is having this issue, because I have a ps5 on my desk setup and it doesn’t look to good vertically, but I’m paranoid about the liquid thing.
I have a suggestion. Try Honeywell tpm 7950 thermal pad. I used it on my PS4 Pro and framework laptop. Both are now super quite. LTT tested it, and the conclusion is, it is on par with liquid metal.
As I don't own a PS5 yet, I can not try it myself.
Normal thermal paste can't conduct better than liquid metal.Liquid metal Thermal conductivity: 128 W/mk(average) Normal thermal paste max:14 W/mk
@@ibrahimhalil9251 liquid metal is expensive and also requires dust filters
@@ibrahimhalil9251 128 W/mk (average) for liquid metal (gallium, indium, and tin) when the best liquid metals range from 73-80 W/mk. 😂
PTM 7950 is a phase change material and it IS on par with liquid metal with none of the downsides (pump-out, dry spots, conductivity) of liquid metal. Manufacturers don’t use liquid metal on their flagship 2-3k USD+ gaming laptops, they use Honeywell PTM7950.
ive kept my ps5 horizontal since day one cause i think it looks better, everyone always asks me why i keep it that way instead of vertical, now i have another reason
Its designed and marketed to be vertical and all the PCs that use liquid metal are vertical so your reasons are poor
@@tyr573 yeah bro my preference on how it looks is a poor reason LMAO
Same!
@@tyr573 no? Less dust comes in the air vents if i keep it horizontal
My problem is i hate to void the warranty sticker even though alot of people do it but if you send it to sony they have to void the warranty sticker when they take it apart too
why would you put liquid metal on the heatsink and the APU? Isn't that too much which causes more issues
I'm curious cause I haven't seen a lot regarding it, but what about the vacuum holes Sony put on the case to clean the dust out. Would this help if dust is already caked on the heatsink?
Also, I know you attempt to fix them for content and show us the inner workings but could you send them into Sony for repairs since they are still under warranty?
no it be useless, take it apart and clean it, then attach dust filter and pray that liquid metal didn't get damaged
@@MGrey-qb5xz now I see you just have no clue what you’re talking about, and are just regurgitating incorrect talking points. Liquid metal doesn’t get damaged. I’ve had the same application of it on an i5 4670k since the cpu launched, with zero degradation. I’ve been building computers for over 25 years.
@@BenFilley casing
@@MGrey-qb5xz is a word. Which means nothing without some sort of context.
Hi there, thanks for sharing. I've been watching your videos for a while and don't remember you addressing the possibility of switching from liquid metal to a good thermal paste. Is it really necessary to exclusively use liquid metal? Wouldn't a good thermal paste do the necessary heat transfer and avoid all the dry spots and splatter from people bumping their consoles?
He already made a video on that. Search it up. He put thermal paste on the ps5
He did a video about that, iirc the conclusion was the metal liquid is necessary
So what about if the PS5 won't turn on giving 3 beeps, power supply problem or dry spot? CFI-1016A model
Which tool kit do you favor for a full (All Models) PS5 cleaning or tear down? Liquid metal, and everything else too.
it's interesting to see that Sony decided this was the best way to cool the system. given the series x and PS5 basically use the same APU I wouldn't expect their cooling solutions to be so different even given their form factors, Sony obviously knew about the limitations of LM and decided to use it anyways
and soon other companies will follow cause they can sell soon to be defective products and the masses would be more then happy to buy cause liquid metal sounds hip to them. Disposable income is disposable indeed
It all comes down to cost. MS used a custom vapor chamber, but also don’t mind selling the Series X at a significant loss. Sony can’t afford to do that anymore.
I think Sony ran in to some problems with the design of it as the heat sinks are kind of a odd set up and spaced out like it was put in a later date as i think it struggled with heat problems as the fan itself is having to pull air from the front of the case when it is on the side blocked by the silly panels. That why so much heatsinks and liquid metal instead of normal paste while Xbox used the vaper chamber and good fan placement as the AMD chip can pump out some good heat when under load maybe that is why Sony clocked the chip down a bit from Xbox as they both using the same chips but Sony one is clocked down a small bit. Just what i think i have both consoles so not saying one is better.
@@MGrey-qb5xz that is very questionable. Liquid Metal is actually a better cooling solution overall
Liquid metal is far superior at conducting heat vs. thermal paste, several times better than the very best pastes, so is a more efficient interface between the chips heat sink and the cooling block.
Mine has been on since it came out. Never had a problem with it, never cleaned it. Been almost 3 years and purring like a kitten with 9tb of memory.
How do you add the liquid metal if the APU or heat sink needs it?
Great video! Do ever add liquid metal or are you always spreading what is already there?
I had a customer last week with the same problem. His PS5 had about 8 months, very clean inside and still getting overheat. After open up, i noticed this same issue, one part of the APU was dry of metal liquid. After move around the metal liquid to cover that area, closed the PS5 and the customer had no problems at all anymore.
I have a little problem with mine it working but it doesnt showing on the monitor sometimes it showing a white light but when i tried a ps remote play it working on the remote play but not on the monitor it is because of the ac adapter ? i leave my ps5 on yesterday and when i came back then it happend thanks for reply
@@samuelgregr8451 If it's working on ps remote play, the console gpu itself is fine, i think its something wrong with the hdmi output ci.
This means that basically nothing horrible can happen? If there are errors, just check and fix the liquid metal? I'm keeping my device vertical. Does it make any sense to check the metal without having any issues? It is over 2 years old.
@@Zsolt_ If there is any problem with the liquid metal heat transfer, the console will only shutdown itself.
@@kensm2 thanks!
It definitely does not give you the heat error message all the time,(never did for me) after watching your breakdown vid, i did a cleanout (stage 3) and lucked out with just a dusty heatsinc. Sper drty.....i do alot of GT7 series racing and ps would shut off after 20 to 30 min, the full clean saved me, no liquid metal issue this time🥵, love your vids! 🤜🤛
yeah this time but the heatsink being dusty means it could damage the liquid metal to not working fully, attach dust filter , no dust should be allowed in there
Cant you just replace that lquid metal with just regular thermal paste? Or will it effect the ps5?
Is it true that thermal paste can drain if you keep PS5 in vertical position?
Do you think that keeping the PS5 vertical contributes to the dry spot forming and better to keep it horizontal or does that matter? Also how long should we wait before checking the liquid metal on our systems? Thx! I see you answered my question at the end of the video I should have waited until it was finished before asking. Thanks for the information I am now keeping mine horizontal just to be on the safe side.
Wondering this myself
How useful/helpful do you think those ‘vacuum holes’ are on the PS5? Would vacuuming them every now and then actually help stop any significant internal dust build up?
Just anecdotal, but I was having the same issue where my ps5 was shutting down, a lot, while playing ps5 games. I read about the vacuum holes and tried it. No more shut downs. Now I do it every couple of months and I haven’t had the issue come up again.
Hi. Could you tell us if your model is a 10000, 11000 or 12000. I try to see if these shut down problems are specific to the 11000 model...( Mine is a 1116A)
no , take it apart to clean it and then attach dust filter
@@MGrey-qb5xz Plenty of websites out there have recommended not to install aftermarket dust filters after they tested them as they restrict airflow and cause the PS5 to run hotter. Regularly cleaning your PS5 is probably the best thing to do.
i have had my ps5 since it came out. should i get mine cleaned? and im not having any trouble with it..
Where did you get that tool you use to spread the Liquid Metal?
I am sure this has been tested before, but I would love to see you do a few different tests on a PS5 with all liquid metal removed and replaces with varying tiers of thermal paste. Kryonaut, Artic Silver, Noctua branded, the stuff you purchase by the bucket, etc. I am going to assume Sony engineered the PS5/heat sink so it would not work, but a detailed analysis would be REALLY cool to watch and learn from. Just a thought, Steve!
PS: if anyone knows of a TY channel that has done what I am describing here, please let me know their name and the name of the video so I can go check it out!
Steve did that in a previous video!
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I’m sure he has done it.
It basically doesn’t work.
Apu is hotter than thermal paste that’s why they used liquids metal
@@Leemillion_xM L console
LM will always give better thermal results then any kind of paste.
i really love your videos sir as its always informative BASED on your different experiences on your repairs..sharing your knowledge and experiences to all of us lessens the tendencies of broken or unrepairable game consoles because of not carefully handling them..best example as always is cleaning the console..for me its always the key to prolong a game console's lifespan... though we all know the YLOD and other light of death on other consoles that is always inevitable at least in their lifespan we took good care of them before their demise,,,, Nice Video Sir!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
Got it and thank you! I posted a video on my channel about the potential of a leak. Lots of comments there saying I’m fear mongering. I don’t want to spread false information. I may have to take my PS5 apart. I’m going to watch your cleaning video again first lol. Thank you for your help.
I have a PS five that has the HDMI took off. Is there anyway you could fix that?
Sold my PS5 about 3 weeks ago as I've moved back to PC gaming but still this was very interesting, thanks!
@@juliuscaesar7715 Since I got a new PC and a Steam deck I switched back to pc gaming and I just wasn't using my PS5 at all, not even an hour a week, so I decided to sell it.
Yikes,not great news to see this. Definitely concerning for a $500 console.
Can this be due vertical console use?
I have a ps5 too. I was wondering how much u charger for a repair like this or just and repair on a ps5 in general? I haven’t had any problems with mine yet but in case I do I would like to send mine to you. Thank you for your time.
I was taught close to 30 years ago that if the thermal compound is being squeezed out you've applied too much. It's only there to bridge between the die and the heatsink and fill any gaps. Ideally the gaps should be as small as possible. When I started overclocking way back when I used to wet sand and micro-polish both surfaces to get them as flat and as smooth as possible and then apply the compound with the edge of a razor blade. Never a ridge of compound left after they were married together. I think people have gotten the misconception that thermal compound has some magical properties where more of it means more heat being pulled from the processor but that's just not what it does. As soon as liquid metal came around the first thing I thought of was the fact that it remains so fluid will mean it will have to flow away from where it needs to be. Now with the board being vertical and it's just got a gravity assist to drain away. The one thing I don't see anyone try here is to remove the liquid metal, thoroughly clean both surfaces and replace with something like arctic silver and then compare temps and stability. Too many people seem to be on the "if it's new it has to be better" bandwagon.
Thermal compound has been tried and tested and its thermal conductivity is nowhere near liquid metal
Actually it's been tried. You can find it on youtube. Thermal compound overheats it and the ps5 turns off. It can't handle it. Liquid metal is the only way.
@@TheBreadSliceMaster Oh...no dispute that thermal compound has less thermal conductivity than liquid metal does but it also has WAY less negative drawbacks. I've never had it run out and short anything out. I've never had it flow away and leave dry spots like shown here. I've never had to make it a routine to go back in and reapply or spread it out over and over. Frankly I think a bigger issue is the cr*p poor heatsinks and horrifically minimal venting they put in these things. So little mass to absorb the heat in the first place. But this is what happens when you employ designers instead of engineers. Get rid of the aluminium and put in much thicker and larger solid copper heatsinks and you'll be able to pull far more heat. I used to deal with with servers all the time when they would thermal and shut down. We had multiple xeons at one of my old jobs and once we replaced all the low mass aluminium heatsinks with copper (and did nothing else) the heat issue went away. It became a standard part of the builds we would do where thermal issues were a real concern. But copper is expensive. It's also a huge waste to use so much thermal compound or liquid metal if it is leaking/running out and not doing anything to facilitate the transfer of heat from the heat spreader to the heatsink.
But it would seem people are happy to deal with a system that is plagued with thermal issues and dies because of them than to spend an extra $100. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about it. People can spend their money however they want, but it seems incredibly short sighted. And if you have to rely on something like liquid metal that means that you've overlooked something critical along the way. Then there's the foam tape they used as a stop-gap measure. That's honestly ridiculous for a company supposedly as advanced as sony. A full o-ring surrounding the die with a milled channel in the heatsink face would have fully contained the liquid metal and avoided all of these issues. But then that would have added cost and they know that most people would rather deal with a system with issues that costs less than one that is more expensive but lasts longer.
Sony, and all the other console manufacturers, are playing their customers for fools and the customers just keep getting in line again and again. It's almost masochistic.
Ive had my PS5 since launch but since i heard that story about the liquid metal i been using it vertical and its staying that way to be safe since my warranty is out. Keep them vids coming👍
I though vertical use was the issue
@@benterry28 dust also causes liquid metal to pool up and dry and collect on the cooler parts of the apu, both ps5 and xbox series are huge dust magnets but ps5 suffers the most from it, L console
You must mean horizontal wright 🥴😂
my playstation 5 will just start having the screen flicker if I try to open youtube. Ive reset the whole thing, redownloaded etc. and now it is doing it with some of the other media apps. Any ideas?
Sorry to ask but what cause for the liquid metal to leak ? see i am about to receive a PS5 but where live pretty sure there is no repair shops at least for consoles
I posted this video on the PS5 Reddit and of course the mods removed it, the censoring on that sub is unreal. My day 1 PS5 died about two months ago, would just randomly shut down…..started happening more and more frequently until graphical afrifacts started so bad it was unplayable.
A dust clogged serially overheating console probably bakes the thermal interface material regardless of what it’s made of. You need to revive and re-spread it if it’s metal, or clean it off and replace it if it’s traditional grease.
I can see the excess outside the two mating surfaces pooling over time towards one end, but not the material between those two surfaces due to capillary action and surface tension.
My guess is that it’s a neglected console that went through many cycles of overheating until it was thrown away, instead of just being cleaned out. The oxidised spot is probably a result, not a cause, which is why sorting it made no difference but cleaning the ventilation and heatsink fixed the problem.
So the issue I’m having is that I get a buzzing sound when it starts up but nothing after the fact only after I go to bed and start it up the next day and it o my last like minute wonder if anyone could give me a idea I have replaced the fan and thought it was that but it wasn’t
I had the same issue with my ps5 keep shutting down recently and then I checked the psu for dust and since I cleaned it I haven’t had any further shut downs
I've heard that easy fix is to keep your console horizontal all the time, so liquid won't move
dust would still damage it , L console
@@MGrey-qb5xz dust damage every equipement
@@Herendill dust build up reduces performance, you have yourself a very fragile machine if it folds from dust
@@MGrey-qb5xz dust damage machinery over time. Not right away
I like the video, but have to disagree on certain points, if a PS5 suffers from oxidation or "corrosion" in its IHS or heatsink union, it's not because the design is wrong, but because that particular unit was poorly assembled (isolated cases among thousands of consoles) and parts with defects, be it poorly sanded surfaces or defectuous nickel plating, because in theory and practice, liquid metal doesn't have to eat copper or nickel, it only melts with them at a molecular level but not to the degree of corroding as If it happens with aluminum.
And second, we have to take into account the behavior of a liquid, obviously if we separate two plates pressed together with a liquid in the middle, the surface tension will cause that layer of intermediate liquid to break and disintegrate creating those "dry spots" that can be seen when we opening the assembly (only when we opening it), but at a micro level that doesn't exist when the two plates are tight together, since the idea and purpose of the liquid metal is to create a very thin but extremely conductive layer at a thermal level, that we cannot see with the naked eye That layer doesn't mean that it's not there when everything is closed.
An example would be that you will enclose water between your two palms, if you hold it indeterminately, the water will not come out, no matter the position. But as soon as you separate them the layer disappears, the same logic occurs with liquid metal used as TIM.
That is why I would not guarantee that the PS5 has to be used in a “safer” way or another, since the position doesn't have to alter the internal layer or the integrity of the TIM.
@Kratosine I definitely agree with you this one, its like all of these repair videos, these persons dont actually know anything about liquid metal and how its actually act whe ja pressed tightly there between two area and ofc there is then dry spot when this seal is broken.
So in short, having your PS5 vertically or horizontally won’t change anything or “harm” the liquid metal.
Question: with the newer playstation "slim" editions will this be a same problem?
Dose the ps1 and ps2 have the same problem cuz I never had anything like that happen to me be for
If my launch model doesn’t randomly turn off and have had no issues with it, you still think there is a chance it has a dry spot already purely from heat cycles?
That's what the man says. 16:20
Launch model has larger heatsink and runs 3C cooler than newer PS5 (CFI-1100) so there is bit more headroom.
I just don’t believe the liquid moves *that* much when pressed up against the heatsink, unless of course it’s been dropped. Especially with factory seal on xclamp I’m curious but not enough to open it.
Yes, I think there is a chance that it has one. No way for me to know for sure though.
I am curious, would a ps5 run ok with thermal paste, something like thermal grizzly, instead of liquid metal (my model is 1216a, still under warranty but when the time comes to open it up and clean it I am afraid of reapplying LM )? it seems to me it would be a safer solution than LM. Any thoughts?
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Which model number was the very first ps5 that u opened
It was the power supply on first ps5. If the power supply overheats you won’t get a warning message first. If it’s the APU it’ll pop a warning message or the board in general
what tool are u using for to put the liquid metal where do u get the liquid metal?
I’ve been watching your content for years, I’ve learned so much from your videos. Continue the great work!
Great to hear!
This guy honestly inspired me to learn soldering and I’ve fixed a tonne of stuff I would’ve just replaced since then. Hopefully more people get inspired to do this from these vids.
My mate vince is also a great channel 👍
I never understand how devices can get dusted up on the inside like shown in your videos, and others here on YT. I'm very lazy and only clean occasionally, but my devices never look like that lol
Probably depends where you live. In a city you have more dust than in rural areas. That's at least my observation since it gets dusty all around fast.
My ps5 keeps turning off after high intensive games like R6 anything I could do to fix it?
As soon as I found out they were using Liquid Metal I was never going to have mine vertical.
Man, every time I watch videos like these - I can't stop thinking of how horribly greedy Sony is that they couldn't spend a few more $$$ to put a plastic or metal mesh dust filter on both sides of fan intakes (instead of useless "fan finger guards" that they currently use) so the dust would accumulate on top of those dust filters and could easily be vacuumed by every user without further disassembly.
Dont forget its a business they want you to spend.
I bet PS5 fanboys would cover their ears, pretending nothing bad has happened to PS5. They would always say "PlayStation5 the only current gen gaming system!"
Well tbf sony is already selling them at a loss theyre making money back through games, subscriptions, and accessories
@@TheGintama86 I'll also give the benefit that at least the PS5 is super easy to self-maintain. It's kinda built in a way to be opened up.
To be fair. Sony probably does tests in a well ventilated clean environment. I see it as a good thing because people really shouldn’t be living in dusty environments. And if your room accumulates the amount of dust to cause your ps5 heat sink to clog up. that’s not good.
Bro I loved this video SO MUCH. I really hope you do more
Mine is a 1216a is that the second edition Or not and what's the difference
Nice tutorial Steve. I think the best position for PS5 is in horizontal position rather than having in vertical one. Keep it up!
That’s just your opinion, but show me the empirical data to back up your assertion.
@@princegroove you can find it anywhere not from me, bro.
@@princegroove consider the exhaust vent location and how heat rises
I wished there was an easier way to clean a PS5 without almost fully taking it apart.
They have vacuum ports on the inner case. There’s two holes on the fan side, that to put a vacuum hose to. I use to use them, when I lived in a very, very dusty area with a dog.
Can you tell the tools you are using please and thank you
Is this gonna be a problem with the slim as well or just the original model?
If Sony and Microsoft intended to design consoles with the primary purpose of accumulating dust inside, they couldn't have designed consoles better that the PS5 and Xbox Series X. The vents on these consoles, when the consoles are stood vertically, are perfect for allowing dust into them. As soon as my consoles arrived, I was straight online looking for dust covers designed specifically for them. Just remember to remove the dust cover when using the console, because it's easy to forget, only to be reminded when the fan has to work so hard that you can hear it over the audio in your headphones.
Xbox has no problems.
Yea both systems have issues. I have both. Especially when you have a limited area for them such as an entertainment center. The series x is a DUST MAGNET. I had to buy screens and a top for it that came with fans....now it runs cool as ice. The PS5 is much better dust wise... But I have fan vents with screens and an exhaust fan on it that keeps it cold too. Without all the accessories.... Ive never overheateded either.... But they have been way hotter than I was comfortable with. I've already replaced my series x once. It was a 1st gen..... Notable disc drive problem. New one seems to work better. I'd advise to purchase insurance on your machines. Saved my from buying the second x box. PS5 has been a champ the whole time
That's why Sony started letting us have access to the fan and part of the heatsink so we can clean them . They started doing this with the PS4 slim and pro. You can pop the top plates off and remove the fan to clean it and get some compressed air Into the heatsink to blow any dust out. Same with the ps5
@@patrickallen4374 wait as in for when console is off or running, can you tell the name of thing u bought?
@@patrickallen4374how long you’ve had your ps5 for and is it still running good?