I actually think that in the fixer upper song the trolls tried to warn Anna about Hans because they knew what Hans motive was. The real villan was Han's Family . Being bullied by his own family for 20 years made him lose the ability to have feelings. Though I disgust at what he tried to do to Elsa and Anna, I understand the reason why he did such a thing.
For all of you who didn’t know there is a book called “A Frozen Heart” it’s a Disney cannon book about the movie Frozen. It shared a little more depth about Elsa, Anna and Hans. In the book it is confirmed Hans had come from a horrible childhood. Even though he was royalty his father never cared for him, and his brothers would beat him and abuse him except only one. His brother Lars. Three years before the coronation and after finding out about Elsa’s parents death, his brother Lars suggested Hans in the idea of him going to Arandelle and marrying Queen Elsa so he can be in line for a throne. He was 13th in line so he wasn’t close to marrying or even becoming King. He never knew about Elsa having winter powers or anything. He became a whole different person when he realized Elsa had issues and finding a man was the least of her issues and also the fear of returning to his father as a failure overcame him. So yeah. Hans wasn’t born or planned to be evil. He just took advantage of the situation after he heard the words “you are all Arandelle will have left.”
@@floweyfangirl69420 You should definitely get it!!! It's amazing, I started re-reading it just because of this comment and I'm so glad I did! It never gets old!!!!
Finally, someone has brought up these points. :D The "Prince Hans is actually evil plot-line" is very... well, just random. I liked this video, it was very cool! :3
I like this, but feel the trolls didn't have much forsite in changing Hans's memory from "as representative of the southern islands maybe I would like the queen and she me" to "I don't love anyone but myself, so killing 2 to get the throne is no swaet" could actually lead to him killing the one kristof is interested in. Not unless the only way to remove true love from one's heart and mind (remember, changing the heart is harder than the mind) is to remove all ability to love from him, thus turning him evil (with Anna's life put in unforeseen jeopardy)
@@charmedx3219 actually, no. They believed Kristoff was Anna's true love, so even if she freezed, in their mind, Kristoff only needed to kiss her and everything would be resolved
Originally, ELSA was supposed to be the villain, but Disney decided they didn't want to do that and switched to Hans instead. Of course, they were also able to use it to break away from their "marry the first prince you meet" tradition to give it a "modern" spin to play to the audiences (kinda like how they made Merida from Brave want to be independent and NOT want to marry). I love the theory where Hans is cursed by the trolls. THAT makes the most sense and has the most complexity to me. :D
They were definitely intending for Elsa to be the villain at first (ua-cam.com/video/jZyWuFsGcgg/v-deo.html), but decided-for reasons that have either never been stated or that simply have slipped my mind-to make her good instead, but still needed a villain because Disney. So they decided to go with Hans for god knows what reason. This is why the whole plot twist makes no sense; they made this change halfway through production and added in subtle attempts at retconning (such as the glance up at 1:52) to try to make it somewhat believable; and then did more retconning in interviews. If Hans had been the intended villain from the start, his character would not have been so inconsistent.
If that was the case, then they could've kissed but it wouldn't work. Because it's not true love, and it's clearly shown the the act of true love doesn't have to be a kiss, but rather putting other's before yourself. But not much we can do about it now.
I agree, but the guards were shown up before hand, they were the two guards to which was always by the Duke of Weasleton. They were also given orders by the Duke of Weasleton to do some sort of harm to Queen Elsa before Prince Hans left to go save Princess Anna.
Yes! And the way Hans looked at Anna in the beginning! I understand they needed a villain, and people would like Christoph and Anna to be together instead, but I really don’t think Hans is a bad guy! I like watching theories, saying that in Frozen Two he will prove himself to be better.
If they wanted to have Kristoff to be with someone, have him fall in love with Elsa like lol or could have Hans run into Elsa first instead thus making Anna x Kristoff a possibility.
Okay but Hans is 13th in line. The easiest way to take the throne is actually to marry in, which makes quite a bit of sense. But he just wants to be king. He can't marry Elsa because she is obviously so shut out (and because she wouldnt want a husband per say). She literally had her and her sister shut away inside the castle. Hans was probably willing to be kind and loving and a good ruler in general. That makes complete sense to show his kindness and reaction when he first met anna, but when he learned that she was a princess and her sister was the queen, he had a change of heart. "Hey, there's a chick that doesnt want a husband, its obvious that i need to get into the line through her sister. But Anna wouldn't be queen until Elsa dies, so how do I do this without getting caught for treason. Hans didn't do anything but follow along with Anna's naive true love bit, he might even had liked her a bit too. When he found out about Elsa's powers, he realized that he could use that to his advantage. He helped the kingdom and whatever, but when Anna disappeared too, he probably wanted to actually fimd anna, but not kill her, because it would keep him on the trusting side of Arendalle. He didn't want to necessarily kill Elsa at the castle because he knew it would hurt Anna as well, blah blah blah. But the real turn was during the scene when he realized that ANNA WAS GOING TO DIE if he did not kiss her. He looked genuinely concerned for her and wanted to save her, but that moment he realized (mid kiss) that if Anna died, it would be Elsa's fault, not his. It would be a legit reason to call treason For murdering the princess (accident or not). But i mean, anyone would feel guilty about this. Im not saying this is true, its my theory, but i think his villain rant was actually him trying to justify his actions. If he believed he was a villain, perhaps he thought it would take away the guilt. Also, there is that scene where weaseltown literally tells his 2 guards to go with Hans and MAKE SURE THAT THE QUEEN DOESNT RETURN. The reason they dont look like normal arendalle guards and carry bows is because their orders were to LITERALLY KILL ELSA. Thank you for coming to my TED TALK
It was said that they wanted to make Hans a likeable character and allow people to believe in the relationship he and Anna could have, then hit then with the plot twist of Hans actually being evil. And he nearly did "stage a little accident" - at 1:52 he glances up in a split second to the chandelier and aims the crossbow upwards towards it, rather than just pushing it out of the way to avoid shooting Elsa.
The redirection of the crossbow upwards was actually essential, and a better option. Had he pushed it aside (turning it to left or right) the arrow would’ve been shot and she would be hit, pointing upwards just buys her more time to get out of there.
by 1:53, notice how he looked up first before diverting the crossbow upwards (and hitting the chandelier). the intention might be (1) since the chandelier's big, there's a big chance that it could kill elsa once it's dropped or (2) he wanted to kill elsa while making it seem like an accident. or maybe he really did not want her dead until she unfreezes arendelle.
But how can someone be that clever in less than a second. Everyone would shoot at the sky and not somewhere else. Every film does this. Everyone who sees a gun holds it up. That doesnt really make sense but thats how it is
Well Elsa can't die from her own magic she'll return lol Disney won't let the main characters die, even Disney didn't make Hans die, Hans is still alive, right?
That was brave of him to do that though and when he said “I couldn’t just let them kill you”, he had a point so I think that the duke and his guards are the real villains of this movie.
Hans will return in the sequel later this year. I hear he is supposed to find redemption or something, but we'll wait and see. Maybe they'll answer more about his 'intentions".
In the story this was based off of, there was a shattered mirror that turned people evil if you got a piece stuck in your eye. I just picture Hans in the boat sailing back home, staring at his reflection in the water and remembering that scene where he saved Elsa, and wondering why he was so desperate to save her if he was just going to kill her after all. Perhaps the Duke of Wesington could have placed a shard in his eye or something? Perhaps he was trying to start a war between the two nations? He could just wait until both kingdoms have weakened enough, and charge in and overthrow them both.
But the one who created that mirror was an evil troll. He should have been the villain from the start because he was the one who had caused the events of the story. But that would make Grand Pabbie and the trolls have a bad name. So for the Disney version, I would say an evil ogre
I already know about the plot twist and it's because Hans had a difficult life when his brothers were playing tricks on him and there are other reasons why Hans is evil.
for the people who said making the ice thingy fall on Elsa was a "little accident"... you see Hans' expression when he saw one of the guys had the crossbow on Elsa, right? he seemed like he was panicking so he make the guy shoot the bow to the ice thingy intead of other places in the palace because he had no time to think what to make the guy target... SORRY, BAD ENGLISH
The ONLY evidence that I've been able to see earlier in the movie was the crossbow scene and only because, if you look VERY closely, you can see as he's looking at the guy with the crossbow that he glances up at the chandelier and then looks up as he's pulling the guy's crossbow up, but it's EXTREMELY easy to miss because of how quick it all happens.
Plus if we're looking at expressions etc, you still have him looking at the two in red going towards the castle with a terrified expression and, most importantly, the moment when he's fallen into the water and stares at Anna with infatuation - even though nobody can see him and there's no reason to fake it
I still fail to believe that Hans is evil he was so nice in the beginning of the movie I don't understand why he would try to kill Anna this all makes no sense but I still failed to believe that Hans is bad. Periott.
Han's is a sociopath, narcissistic opportunist. His isolation from his brothers and lack of respect within his family made him bad. He keeps up appearances and plans ahead to gets what he wants. He is incapable of love and wants to rule alone and absolute. He plays along with other desires and exploits them. He's the polar opposite of Anna. The Duke and his goons were sketchy from the start but the fact Disney played with the idea of a true sociopath as a villain to subvert expectations is incredible.
I was scrolling through the comments hoping to see one like this, this is exactly what Disney intended to portray. Disney has been incorporating real life situations into their movies more and more these past few years along with still keeping the fantasy/fairytale vibe they are known for, its to give the audience something to connect to, I'm sure a lot of people at some point in their life have encountered a sociopath or narcissist and hans demonstrates those qualities perfectly, for all the other comments saying his behavior came out of no where, it often feels like that (the shock/hurt when their true self is revealed) with real life sociopaths and narcissists as they are quite charming, intelligent and manipulative in front of an audience or in the beginning (Love bombing) phase which was why he was so kind and charming to Anna in the beginning but totally heartless and apathetic to her later on in these scenes shown.
idk i have read sociopath ( anti social personality disorder so also psychopath ) fail to plan ahead on a website : "They are impulsive and lack the ability to plan ahead" 🤔are violent aggressive , they can be agitated are very irresponsible dont tolerate frustration dont have impulse control, steal , and apparently dont understand emotions i also read which dont really fit with Hans behavior in the movie. i dont think a true sociopath will have succeeded to do what Hans did in the in the movie and stayed calm. in the book "a frozen heart" Disney publish who explore his personality and past Hans empathize at a moment with his mom and sister in law he is able to show empathy and he hates violence. Also one of the big element is the factor "repetition" He is 23 years old after all if he was one (same for psychopath) he will have already an history of violence behind him since it appear around 8 years old (according to researcher) why would his parents send him , their problematic child who has a history of violence before 15 years old ( one of the condition to be diagnostic one ) as a diplomat to an important political events when they have 12 others sons. Narcissist also develop around '4-5 years old same story here he would have been an abusive kid. And i mean we are not really in his head like how do we know Hans Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance ? Because he wants to be king 🤔 Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration ? Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it ? Exaggerate achievements and talents , is preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty ? believe he is superior and can only associate with equally special people ? Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people he perceive as inferior ? Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with his expectations or have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others ( wrong in the movie he takes cares of arendelle citizens) or is envious of others and believe others envy him. ( thats the list of symptoms ) i mean we just cannot guess all of that because he said " i m the hero who is gonna saved arendelle from destruction" and wants to be king. that's making way too much assumption about the character to me.🤔 in the book " a frozen heart" disney published we are in his head and he feels like a throwaway he feel like trash he dont bullies but is a victim of bullying since little because he is weak according to them. his motivation to be king is to have the acceptance of his abusive father and show that he can be good king and suffer from severe narcissistic abuse as his father is one a big one that designed hans as the scapegoat using hans twin brothers as flying monkey to shame him. the only trait he did check is the one he have in the movie take advantages of others to get what they want. so if the author of this book disney published suceded to give supplementary information about Hans without making him a narcissist is maybe a sign there is not any evidence of him being one in the movie.🤔 sorry for the long comment i guess i really wanted to share what i know about the subject 😅
Hans ending up with Elsa is the result of my modified evil plan for Hans. Him being the villain isn't the problem for me. It's how stupid he was with his plan as Anna had her heart frozen.
He didn't let Elsa get killed when they went looking for her because he wasn't sure if he needed Elsa alive to bring back summer. Once Elsa told him she couldn't, he was going to kill her.
I totally agree with all of your points except for the scene where Hans "saves" Elsa in the ice castle. You can see that before he shoves the crossbow away from Elsa, he glances up and looks right at the chandelier. I believe this to be his idea of a "little accident" for Elsa. He tried to play the hero role until the very end because that's what he wanted to be, the hero. Sadly in the process of trying to do so he actually became the opposite. But it still doesn't quite make sense, things would have been much easier for him if he just let the Duke's men kill Elsa, he could of still played the hero and Elsa would have been delt with. Why rush in behind them as if worried? No one was paying attention to him at that moment, everyone was distracted by a giant ice monster! That's the part that makes no sense to me. I believe that Hans was truly at war with himself and his plan until the very end of the film. If you've ever read "A Frozen Heart" which is a book about Hans from hos childhood, all the way to the end of the movie, it helps understand him a bit more. Yes, he had a plan from the beginning to marry into the throne, but he originally had no intention of killing anyone! His plan was to swoon Elsa and marry her. Anna, the Duke, and Elsa's powers were all obstacles that Hans had know way of knowing about before hand. He himself didn't even know how to deal with them, his own plan was constantly changing with every new complication that came up, making his plan and actions inconsistent, thus he himself seems inconsistent. What I do have a problem with however, is that the movie plays it off like he had everything planned from the beginning, which would obviously be impossible! If hadn't revealed his entire plan to Anna the whole movie would make sense, even him being the bad guy! It could have gone something like this: Hans comes to Arendelle in hopes of marrying into the throne. He bumps into Anna and sees that she is easier to reach than Elsa, so he begins to change plans. Before he can even finish thinking up his new and improved plan, Elsa screws everything up! The next thing he knows, he is left in charge of Arendelle, it's snowing in July, and now has the Duke and his men to deal with. He has to try and change plans again. His attempt to win the people over works and that's a good start. He too is worried about the state of the land itself and wants it to return to normal. He needs Elsa alive for this. When he has reason to believe that Anna is in trouble, he goes after her. They come to the ice castle and he tries to talk Elsa into bringing back summer. He saves her and brings her back to Arendelle. He once again tries talking to her, when she tells him that she can't bring summer back, another roadblock is thrown at him. How is he going to fix this? Time to change plans again. As he worries about everything, the ambassadors say something of importance to him "You are all Arendelle has left." At this moment, he comes to terms with losing Anna, and realizes that he doesn't even need her or Elsa to rule, the throne of Arendelle is literally being offered to him by the people themselves. Just as he gets comfortable with this idea, Anna shows up. Now he has to worry about what she'll do if anything happens to Elsa. He's sick of changing his plans over and over again and just decides to simplify it all. He let's Anna meet her fate. The next thing he knows, Elsa has escaped, these Arendelle royals are more trouble than they're worth! He's sick and tired of Elsa, up until this point she's ruined everything over and over again. He lashes out on her, telling her that Anna is dead. When she falls to her knees in sorrow he sees the storm stop. He looks around and in that moment, he thinks he's figured out how to stop the winter, kill Elsa. In that instance is the first time that its crossed his mind. He pulls out his swords and we all know how the rest of the story goes. I think that is it was portrayed that way, it was have seemed more consistent and played out better. But I love the idea of alternate versions! There are so many different things you could do in the story! I would have liked to see Hans be a good guy or even get redeemed. Great video!!!!
In "A Frozen Heart", a complementary book of Frozen (wrote by Disney), it says that only Hans and two of his 12 brothers not got married. But these two brothers are different in appearance of this two guards (the book says how they look like). Actually, most of people in Disney world doesn't know that Arendelle have two princess, and the majority thinks it's only Elsa, because she is the heiress. Hans wanted to marry Elsa, not Anna. He didn't knew it that Anna existed, until he met her. And, how he says in the movie, Elsa is not a open person and Anna was desesperate for love, then, it was easier for him get close to her, not Elsa. But something I liked you said is that Hans was contraditory, because, if he wanted to be the King of Arendelle, and needed Elsa dead, he would have left her die in her ice castle, what he did not. I still don't understand that, but I think Disney made this to left that thing that he is one of the good guys, and for give that surprise that we had in the end of the movie.
Actually, I think it was very clever to make Hans the main villain because it shoes that he is a master manipulator. I wish though, that Hans went after Elsa instead of Ana. It would have been even more interesting if there was a reason why Hand also wore gloves all the time like Elsa. Like he was a fire sorcerer. Just my opinion.
Maybe he loved her but at the last second he wanted to be the king by himself and then he thought about blaming it on Elsa and then killing her then he would be king
I actually think that in the fixer upper song the trolls tried to warn Anna about Hans because they knew what Hans motive was. The real villan was Han's Family . Being bullied by his own family for 20 years made him lose the ability to have feelings. Though I disgust at what he tried to do to Elsa and Anna, I understand the reason why he did such a thing.
Think it was like Hans kissing Anna, nothing happen and then tries to kill Elsa to save Anna. And in the End he stays in Arendale looks happy for Anna and new Love, but actally is broken inside and talks about it with Elsa and ask her if he can stay (like the Kigdom is better then his home) and teasing something between them for longterm Which could have build up for longterm in the other movies
He is evil. When he "protected" Elsa and moved the hand of that man with the crossbow, you can see that is looking up. So he wanted to appear good in front of the guards. If that chandelier thingy would've felt and killed Elsa, he couldn't have sad he didn't tried to protect her. This is my opinion!!
there's literally no reason to prove himself as "good" infront of the guards when one of them is about to get murdered by Elsa, if anything, letting the Duke's guards kill her will benefit him if he is evil since not only did he allow a girl that already fell for him to be queen, he can also arrest and execute his rival Duke for the murder of a ruler
@@antoniodelaugger9236 He has no proof that the Duke told his guards to kill Elsa, so he can't do anything to him, just to his guards. And I was talking about the guards from the castle, not the Duke's ones. This is not the point anyway, I just expressed my opinion about Hans. In my eyes he will remain an manipulative evil boy who wants to rule a kingdom...
Did you watch the movie? The weaseltown guy told his henchmen to go kill Elsa. And the whole point of Han's villainy was to shock the audience with that plot twist. And it worked.
I agree that it worked, but we really didn't get any good hints that Hans was going to be the alleged "bad guy". Although it's shocking, it doesn't make sense because we don't really see good hints. A good twist villain has to make sense, not come out of nowhere. Hans' villainy depended on shock value, and like you said, it worked, but because it didn't make sense, as soon as the shock wore off, it wasn't... as remarkable.
It really didnt work. I mean from the moment i saw kristoff. I knew hans was going to be the villian. Disney doesnt like having a girl choose between guys. It has to be 1 person.
I feel like Hans was evil all along. You have a point will all the scenes, but what if it was just a cover story? Like he couldn't obviously go "Hey let's all kill Elsa!" Because then Ana would feel betrayed and never marry him and he would never be king and therefore his whole plan is ruined...... That's my opinion😀
Those guys in red were guards of that old man who was bald (lmao idk his name) and hans thought they wanted to help, turns out the bald man told the red guards to kill elsa. And Hans couldnt careless about what they did to elsa
If you look closer when hans breaks the chandelier he looks up at it thinking he could hit it while he tries to look good infront of 'Elsa's' guards so it looks like he is 'saving her' but in reality he was either still trying to kill her or knock her unconscious. And I actually think the out of nowhere villain is a good thing because kids won't see it coming, Anna never seen it coming and the kingdom didn't see it coming so it was a big surprise to everyone and I want to see that in villains (although I've seen frozen so many times Hans has gotten old😂) but anyway I hope you actually understand where I'm coming from😂😂 Also sorry if you were joking or something I haven't finished the video yet😅
I love this. Finally someone says it♡ I personally didn't like the movie very much because of its random events, and I'm not only referring to Hans being the bad guy
You know what your right Hans was all Mr nice guy till the end and when the grad said “if anything happens to t he princess your all Arundel has left” that’s when he had a change of heart
Stop making a stupid conspiracy at 2:59. Whenever Hans in arrendelle after the horse ride by anna suddenly appear he ask for the volunteer for help him on searching princess anna and the dude old man had volunteer his two man to helps hans in plan to brings anna back. And why hans allow them to take along ? If you says its only the volunteer were allowed but why hans allow the those 2 man to come along? If Hans wasn't a villain, kristoff, elsa, olaf wouldn't be together and absolutely not a such happy ending to be seen. So the wesselton and Hans the real villain, checkmate. But I heard some backstory about Hans that he been abused by his brothers and working hard to rule the arendelle and become a king so thats why
The reason their were two guards wearing wearing red is that when Hans said let’s go find Elsa the duke with no hair was like don’t leave without my guard hie guards aren’t from arendal
The Duke of Westelton is the best in a gay sense. It's like no matter what Disney does, they always manage to make their characters gay no matter what they do. Wether they like it or not they always find a way without knowing it lol.
this actually makes sense even though elsa is gay which I like but Hans never deserved to be the villain of the movie more or less the husband or at least boyfriend of Anna
The trolls are behind it! "Get the fiance out of the way, and all will be fixed".
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I actually think that in the fixer upper song the trolls tried to warn Anna about Hans because they knew what Hans motive was.
The real villan was Han's Family .
Being bullied by his own family for 20 years made him lose the ability to have feelings. Though I disgust at what he tried to do to Elsa and Anna, I understand the reason why he did such a thing.
For all of you who didn’t know there is a book called “A Frozen Heart” it’s a Disney cannon book about the movie Frozen. It shared a little more depth about Elsa, Anna and Hans. In the book it is confirmed Hans had come from a horrible childhood. Even though he was royalty his father never cared for him, and his brothers would beat him and abuse him except only one. His brother Lars. Three years before the coronation and after finding out about Elsa’s parents death, his brother Lars suggested Hans in the idea of him going to Arandelle and marrying Queen Elsa so he can be in line for a throne. He was 13th in line so he wasn’t close to marrying or even becoming King. He never knew about Elsa having winter powers or anything. He became a whole different person when he realized Elsa had issues and finding a man was the least of her issues and also the fear of returning to his father as a failure overcame him. So yeah. Hans wasn’t born or planned to be evil. He just took advantage of the situation after he heard the words “you are all Arandelle will have left.”
YES!!!!!! Finally someone who's read this book!!!! I have it and love it!!!!! Thank you for sharing!!!!
OMG! I NEED THIS BOOK RIGHT. NOW.
@@floweyfangirl69420 You should definitely get it!!! It's amazing, I started re-reading it just because of this comment and I'm so glad I did! It never gets old!!!!
Did the book come out after frozen
@@vanitine I READ IT! IT'S AMAZING!!!!!!
i really REALLY LOVE Frozen! it's so cool, we got to see deeper about Anna and Elsa
it's just AMAZING
Finally, someone has brought up these points. :D
The "Prince Hans is actually evil plot-line" is very... well, just random.
I liked this video, it was very cool! :3
+MemuNexu (MemoNexu) Thank you! This was immensely fun to make :)
You're welcome! :D
Mystery Tuber the trolls or darron the god of destruction from the real story could be the reason hans turns bad
HE WASNT EVIL
IT MAKES *NO. SENSE.*
I MEAN THINK ABOUT IT
THE TROLLS LITERALLY SAID TO GET RID OF HIM!
When?
Baby Yoda in the song fixer upper
RIGHT!!
I like this, but feel the trolls didn't have much forsite in changing Hans's memory from "as representative of the southern islands maybe I would like the queen and she me" to "I don't love anyone but myself, so killing 2 to get the throne is no swaet" could actually lead to him killing the one kristof is interested in. Not unless the only way to remove true love from one's heart and mind (remember, changing the heart is harder than the mind) is to remove all ability to love from him, thus turning him evil (with Anna's life put in unforeseen jeopardy)
@@charmedx3219 actually, no. They believed Kristoff was Anna's true love, so even if she freezed, in their mind, Kristoff only needed to kiss her and everything would be resolved
Originally, ELSA was supposed to be the villain, but Disney decided they didn't want to do that and switched to Hans instead. Of course, they were also able to use it to break away from their "marry the first prince you meet" tradition to give it a "modern" spin to play to the audiences (kinda like how they made Merida from Brave want to be independent and NOT want to marry).
I love the theory where Hans is cursed by the trolls. THAT makes the most sense and has the most complexity to me. :D
I think the only reason that Disney made prince hans the villain was because they decided last minute to have Anna with Kristoff instead
I have the impression it was like" OMG A princess can end up with an other man when she has already had a duet song! What people are going to think!?
They were definitely intending for Elsa to be the villain at first (ua-cam.com/video/jZyWuFsGcgg/v-deo.html), but decided-for reasons that have either never been stated or that simply have slipped my mind-to make her good instead, but still needed a villain because Disney. So they decided to go with Hans for god knows what reason. This is why the whole plot twist makes no sense; they made this change halfway through production and added in subtle attempts at retconning (such as the glance up at 1:52) to try to make it somewhat believable; and then did more retconning in interviews. If Hans had been the intended villain from the start, his character would not have been so inconsistent.
If that was the case, then they could've kissed but it wouldn't work. Because it's not true love, and it's clearly shown the the act of true love doesn't have to be a kiss, but rather putting other's before yourself. But not much we can do about it now.
Your theory would actually make more sense than the actual movie
Yah
The first movie made Hans so wrong at the end. He shouldn’t have been the bad guy. I mean it makes no god damn sense.
The men in red were there because the Duke of weasletown sent them as volunteers to go after Elsa Remember? That's why they are in red. Love the vid
I agree, but the guards were shown up before hand, they were the two guards to which was always by the Duke of Weasleton. They were also given orders by the Duke of Weasleton to do some sort of harm to Queen Elsa before Prince Hans left to go save Princess Anna.
Yes! And the way Hans looked at Anna in the beginning! I understand they needed a villain, and people would like Christoph and Anna to be together instead, but I really don’t think Hans is a bad guy! I like watching theories, saying that in Frozen Two he will prove himself to be better.
I feel the exact same wayyyyy. The fiest moment he sees her that was just a look of love and interest there is not one bit of evil i. him
@@fandomcomic First meeting, under the boat where no one can see him, the look is smitten, not scheming. (and rightly so.)
@@flynnryan definitely i mean nobody was looking at him it was his genuine expression
Frozen 2: Lol no
If they wanted to have Kristoff to be with someone, have him fall in love with Elsa like lol or could have Hans run into Elsa first instead thus making Anna x Kristoff a possibility.
Also, also, Han's plan right from the start was to just marry Elsa. He didn't know she had magic and things would go wrong. Great planning dude!
The Duke should have just been the villain if they really needed an external conflict
And Hans be the hero
I never really noticed that it didn't make sense, great observations.
Okay but Hans is 13th in line. The easiest way to take the throne is actually to marry in, which makes quite a bit of sense. But he just wants to be king. He can't marry Elsa because she is obviously so shut out (and because she wouldnt want a husband per say). She literally had her and her sister shut away inside the castle. Hans was probably willing to be kind and loving and a good ruler in general. That makes complete sense to show his kindness and reaction when he first met anna, but when he learned that she was a princess and her sister was the queen, he had a change of heart. "Hey, there's a chick that doesnt want a husband, its obvious that i need to get into the line through her sister. But Anna wouldn't be queen until Elsa dies, so how do I do this without getting caught for treason.
Hans didn't do anything but follow along with Anna's naive true love bit, he might even had liked her a bit too. When he found out about Elsa's powers, he realized that he could use that to his advantage. He helped the kingdom and whatever, but when Anna disappeared too, he probably wanted to actually fimd anna, but not kill her, because it would keep him on the trusting side of Arendalle.
He didn't want to necessarily kill Elsa at the castle because he knew it would hurt Anna as well, blah blah blah.
But the real turn was during the scene when he realized that ANNA WAS GOING TO DIE if he did not kiss her. He looked genuinely concerned for her and wanted to save her, but that moment he realized (mid kiss) that if Anna died, it would be Elsa's fault, not his. It would be a legit reason to call treason For murdering the princess (accident or not). But i mean, anyone would feel guilty about this.
Im not saying this is true, its my theory, but i think his villain rant was actually him trying to justify his actions. If he believed he was a villain, perhaps he thought it would take away the guilt.
Also, there is that scene where weaseltown literally tells his 2 guards to go with Hans and MAKE SURE THAT THE QUEEN DOESNT RETURN. The reason they dont look like normal arendalle guards and carry bows is because their orders were to LITERALLY KILL ELSA.
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Disney is smart. They wouldn't just change a script last minute. It was after the trolls song he became evil
They didnt even know who the voice was until the last second in frozen 2 so yeah they change it last second
It was said that they wanted to make Hans a likeable character and allow people to believe in the relationship he and Anna could have, then hit then with the plot twist of Hans actually being evil. And he nearly did "stage a little accident" - at 1:52 he glances up in a split second to the chandelier and aims the crossbow upwards towards it, rather than just pushing it out of the way to avoid shooting Elsa.
The point of the stage little accident is most the people have not noticed, this mean is poor writing!
McKenzie Rose He could of just let the guard shoot her.
The redirection of the crossbow upwards was actually essential, and a better option. Had he pushed it aside (turning it to left or right) the arrow would’ve been shot and she would be hit, pointing upwards just buys her more time to get out of there.
by 1:53, notice how he looked up first before diverting the crossbow upwards (and hitting the chandelier). the intention might be (1) since the chandelier's big, there's a big chance that it could kill elsa once it's dropped or (2) he wanted to kill elsa while making it seem like an accident.
or maybe he really did not want her dead until she unfreezes arendelle.
Agree
And contrary to what the video argues, Hans' actions, in that moment, are in line with, say, staging a little accident.
But how can someone be that clever in less than a second. Everyone would shoot at the sky and not somewhere else. Every film does this. Everyone who sees a gun holds it up. That doesnt really make sense but thats how it is
Well Elsa can't die from her own magic she'll return lol Disney won't let the main characters die, even Disney didn't make Hans die, Hans is still alive, right?
That was brave of him to do that though and when he said “I couldn’t just let them kill you”, he had a point so I think that the duke and his guards are the real villains of this movie.
Hans will return in the sequel later this year. I hear he is supposed to find redemption or something, but we'll wait and see. Maybe they'll answer more about his 'intentions".
Hans will get reedemed and it means he will change, not finding a redemption.
@@loonygloomster4508 I hope he gets redemption because him returning as the same villain would be too cliché and predictable, overused or pointless.
@@Disneyfan82 Uh ok 😕
@@loonygloomster4508 What do you mean OK? I am serious about what I said. And you act like I just said something icky and disturbing.
Well I guess your disappointed
In the story this was based off of, there was a shattered mirror that turned people evil if you got a piece stuck in your eye. I just picture Hans in the boat sailing back home, staring at his reflection in the water and remembering that scene where he saved Elsa, and wondering why he was so desperate to save her if he was just going to kill her after all. Perhaps the Duke of Wesington could have placed a shard in his eye or something? Perhaps he was trying to start a war between the two nations? He could just wait until both kingdoms have weakened enough, and charge in and overthrow them both.
But the one who created that mirror was an evil troll. He should have been the villain from the start because he was the one who had caused the events of the story. But that would make Grand Pabbie and the trolls have a bad name. So for the Disney version, I would say an evil ogre
... THE CHANDELIER COULD'VE HAD THE SAME MAGIC FROM THE MIRROR BECAUSE IT COULD'VE BEEN MADE FROM THE SAME MATERIAL, YOU'RE A FRICKING GENIUS!
I already know about the plot twist and it's because Hans had a difficult life when his brothers were playing tricks on him and there are other reasons why Hans is evil.
for the people who said making the ice thingy fall on Elsa was a "little accident"... you see Hans' expression when he saw one of the guys had the crossbow on Elsa, right? he seemed like he was panicking so he make the guy shoot the bow to the ice thingy intead of other places in the palace because he had no time to think what to make the guy target...
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And what if the real villains are elsa and anna's parents?
Have you watched Frozen 2 ?
@@_zenith_139 no she probably hasn't it was posted 2 YEARS AGO
@@Peyton10284 lmao
The ONLY evidence that I've been able to see earlier in the movie was the crossbow scene and only because, if you look VERY closely, you can see as he's looking at the guy with the crossbow that he glances up at the chandelier and then looks up as he's pulling the guy's crossbow up, but it's EXTREMELY easy to miss because of how quick it all happens.
Plus if we're looking at expressions etc, you still have him looking at the two in red going towards the castle with a terrified expression and, most importantly, the moment when he's fallen into the water and stares at Anna with infatuation - even though nobody can see him and there's no reason to fake it
The Two guys are the brothers who hated Hans along with the eldest
I still fail to believe that Hans is evil he was so nice in the beginning of the movie I don't understand why he would try to kill Anna this all makes no sense but I still failed to believe that Hans is bad. Periott.
I like how everyone can run perfectly on ice just saying (even elsa in heels? damn.)
Han's is a sociopath, narcissistic opportunist. His isolation from his brothers and lack of respect within his family made him bad. He keeps up appearances and plans ahead to gets what he wants. He is incapable of love and wants to rule alone and absolute. He plays along with other desires and exploits them. He's the polar opposite of Anna. The Duke and his goons were sketchy from the start but the fact Disney played with the idea of a true sociopath as a villain to subvert expectations is incredible.
I was scrolling through the comments hoping to see one like this, this is exactly what Disney intended to portray. Disney has been incorporating real life situations into their movies more and more these past few years along with still keeping the fantasy/fairytale vibe they are known for, its to give the audience something to connect to, I'm sure a lot of people at some point in their life have encountered a sociopath or narcissist and hans demonstrates those qualities perfectly, for all the other comments saying his behavior came out of no where, it often feels like that (the shock/hurt when their true self is revealed) with real life sociopaths and narcissists as they are quite charming, intelligent and manipulative in front of an audience or in the beginning (Love bombing) phase which was why he was so kind and charming to Anna in the beginning but totally heartless and apathetic to her later on in these scenes shown.
idk i have read sociopath ( anti social personality disorder so also psychopath ) fail to plan ahead on a website : "They are impulsive and lack the ability to plan ahead" 🤔are violent aggressive , they can be agitated are very irresponsible dont tolerate frustration dont have impulse control, steal , and apparently dont understand emotions i also read which dont really fit with Hans behavior in the movie. i dont think a true sociopath will have succeeded to do what Hans did in the in the movie and stayed calm. in the book "a frozen heart" Disney publish who explore his personality and past Hans empathize at a moment with his mom and sister in law he is able to show empathy and he hates violence. Also one of the big element is the factor "repetition" He is 23 years old after all if he was one (same for psychopath) he will have already an history of violence behind him since it appear around 8 years old (according to researcher) why would his parents send him , their problematic child who has a history of violence before 15 years old ( one of the condition to be diagnostic one ) as a diplomat to an important political events when they have 12 others sons. Narcissist also develop around '4-5 years old same story here he would have been an abusive kid. And i mean we are not really in his head like how do we know Hans Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance ? Because he wants to be king 🤔 Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration ? Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it ? Exaggerate achievements and talents , is preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty ? believe he is superior and can only associate with equally special people ? Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people he perceive as inferior ? Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with his expectations or have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others ( wrong in the movie he takes cares of arendelle citizens) or is envious of others and believe others envy him. ( thats the list of symptoms ) i mean we just cannot guess all of that because he said " i m the hero who is gonna saved arendelle from destruction" and wants to be king. that's making way too much assumption about the character to me.🤔
in the book " a frozen heart" disney published we are in his head and he feels like a throwaway he feel like trash he dont bullies but is a victim of bullying since little because he is weak according to them. his motivation to be king is to have the acceptance of his abusive father and show that he can be good king and suffer from severe narcissistic abuse as his father is one a big one that designed hans as the scapegoat using hans twin brothers as flying monkey to shame him. the only trait he did check is the one he have in the movie take advantages of others to get what they want. so if the author of this book disney published suceded to give supplementary information about Hans without making him a narcissist is maybe a sign there is not any evidence of him being one in the movie.🤔 sorry for the long comment i guess i really wanted to share what i know about the subject 😅
3:46 I think they are from the little Duke with the moustache !
The two guys got orders to kill her in the film. It was shown when wistleton gave them orders
Hans ending up with Elsa is the result of my modified evil plan for Hans. Him being the villain isn't the problem for me. It's how stupid he was with his plan as Anna had her heart frozen.
He didn't let Elsa get killed when they went looking for her because he wasn't sure if he needed Elsa alive to bring back summer. Once Elsa told him she couldn't, he was going to kill her.
Thank you ! I think that too but no one seemed to notice it : why would he want to be king of a dead kingdom ?? He has to bring back summer !
@@odilekeller4743yeah that is true
I totally agree with all of your points except for the scene where Hans "saves" Elsa in the ice castle. You can see that before he shoves the crossbow away from Elsa, he glances up and looks right at the chandelier. I believe this to be his idea of a "little accident" for Elsa. He tried to play the hero role until the very end because that's what he wanted to be, the hero. Sadly in the process of trying to do so he actually became the opposite. But it still doesn't quite make sense, things would have been much easier for him if he just let the Duke's men kill Elsa, he could of still played the hero and Elsa would have been delt with. Why rush in behind them as if worried? No one was paying attention to him at that moment, everyone was distracted by a giant ice monster! That's the part that makes no sense to me. I believe that Hans was truly at war with himself and his plan until the very end of the film. If you've ever read "A Frozen Heart" which is a book about Hans from hos childhood, all the way to the end of the movie, it helps understand him a bit more. Yes, he had a plan from the beginning to marry into the throne, but he originally had no intention of killing anyone! His plan was to swoon Elsa and marry her. Anna, the Duke, and Elsa's powers were all obstacles that Hans had know way of knowing about before hand. He himself didn't even know how to deal with them, his own plan was constantly changing with every new complication that came up, making his plan and actions inconsistent, thus he himself seems inconsistent. What I do have a problem with however, is that the movie plays it off like he had everything planned from the beginning, which would obviously be impossible! If hadn't revealed his entire plan to Anna the whole movie would make sense, even him being the bad guy! It could have gone something like this: Hans comes to Arendelle in hopes of marrying into the throne. He bumps into Anna and sees that she is easier to reach than Elsa, so he begins to change plans. Before he can even finish thinking up his new and improved plan, Elsa screws everything up! The next thing he knows, he is left in charge of Arendelle, it's snowing in July, and now has the Duke and his men to deal with. He has to try and change plans again. His attempt to win the people over works and that's a good start. He too is worried about the state of the land itself and wants it to return to normal. He needs Elsa alive for this. When he has reason to believe that Anna is in trouble, he goes after her. They come to the ice castle and he tries to talk Elsa into bringing back summer. He saves her and brings her back to Arendelle. He once again tries talking to her, when she tells him that she can't bring summer back, another roadblock is thrown at him. How is he going to fix this? Time to change plans again. As he worries about everything, the ambassadors say something of importance to him "You are all Arendelle has left." At this moment, he comes to terms with losing Anna, and realizes that he doesn't even need her or Elsa to rule, the throne of Arendelle is literally being offered to him by the people themselves. Just as he gets comfortable with this idea, Anna shows up. Now he has to worry about what she'll do if anything happens to Elsa. He's sick of changing his plans over and over again and just decides to simplify it all. He let's Anna meet her fate. The next thing he knows, Elsa has escaped, these Arendelle royals are more trouble than they're worth! He's sick and tired of Elsa, up until this point she's ruined everything over and over again. He lashes out on her, telling her that Anna is dead. When she falls to her knees in sorrow he sees the storm stop. He looks around and in that moment, he thinks he's figured out how to stop the winter, kill Elsa. In that instance is the first time that its crossed his mind. He pulls out his swords and we all know how the rest of the story goes. I think that is it was portrayed that way, it was have seemed more consistent and played out better. But I love the idea of alternate versions! There are so many different things you could do in the story! I would have liked to see Hans be a good guy or even get redeemed. Great video!!!!
3:11 THE REDCOATS STRIKE AGAIN
I'm taking this horse by the reins, making redcoats redder with bloodstains!
In "A Frozen Heart", a complementary book of Frozen (wrote by Disney), it says that only Hans and two of his 12 brothers not got married. But these two brothers are different in appearance of this two guards (the book says how they look like). Actually, most of people in Disney world doesn't know that Arendelle have two princess, and the majority thinks it's only Elsa, because she is the heiress. Hans wanted to marry Elsa, not Anna. He didn't knew it that Anna existed, until he met her. And, how he says in the movie, Elsa is not a open person and Anna was desesperate for love, then, it was easier for him get close to her, not Elsa. But something I liked you said is that Hans was contraditory, because, if he wanted to be the King of Arendelle, and needed Elsa dead, he would have left her die in her ice castle, what he did not. I still don't understand that, but I think Disney made this to left that thing that he is one of the good guys, and for give that surprise that we had in the end of the movie.
Actually, I think it was very clever to make Hans the main villain because it shoes that he is a master manipulator. I wish though, that Hans went after Elsa instead of Ana. It would have been even more interesting if there was a reason why Hand also wore gloves all the time like Elsa. Like he was a fire sorcerer. Just my opinion.
Maybe he loved her but at the last second he wanted to be the king by himself and then he thought about blaming it on Elsa and then killing her then he would be king
Totally agree. I'm just really bummed that he abandoned Anna...
This twist actually does make sense Folks, Kai is a boy in the orgingal snow queen and I feel like they last minute made Hans like Kai
I actually think that in the fixer upper song the trolls tried to warn Anna about Hans because they knew what Hans motive was.
The real villan was Han's Family .
Being bullied by his own family for 20 years made him lose the ability to have feelings. Though I disgust at what he tried to do to Elsa and Anna, I understand the reason why he did such a thing.
1:10 Every plan must be have a hypocrtical behaviour so that everyone couldnt noticed him that he have a bad intent, its simple bro
Think it was like Hans kissing Anna, nothing happen and then tries to kill Elsa to save Anna.
And in the End he stays in Arendale looks happy for Anna and new Love, but actally is broken inside and talks about it with Elsa and ask her if he can stay (like the Kigdom is better then his home) and teasing something between them for longterm
Which could have build up for longterm in the other movies
He is evil. When he "protected" Elsa and moved the hand of that man with the crossbow, you can see that is looking up. So he wanted to appear good in front of the guards. If that chandelier thingy would've felt and killed Elsa, he couldn't have sad he didn't tried to protect her. This is my opinion!!
there's literally no reason to prove himself as "good" infront of the guards when one of them is about to get murdered by Elsa, if anything, letting the Duke's guards kill her will benefit him if he is evil since not only did he allow a girl that already fell for him to be queen, he can also arrest and execute his rival Duke for the murder of a ruler
@@antoniodelaugger9236 He has no proof that the Duke told his guards to kill Elsa, so he can't do anything to him, just to his guards. And I was talking about the guards from the castle, not the Duke's ones. This is not the point anyway, I just expressed my opinion about Hans. In my eyes he will remain an manipulative evil boy who wants to rule a kingdom...
One of the guards or visitors had the ability to hypnotize people.
Who
It must be those background characters, tsk
Did you watch the movie? The weaseltown guy told his henchmen to go kill Elsa. And the whole point of Han's villainy was to shock the audience with that plot twist. And it worked.
I agree that it worked, but we really didn't get any good hints that Hans was going to be the alleged "bad guy". Although it's shocking, it doesn't make sense because we don't really see good hints. A good twist villain has to make sense, not come out of nowhere. Hans' villainy depended on shock value, and like you said, it worked, but because it didn't make sense, as soon as the shock wore off, it wasn't... as remarkable.
It really didnt work. I mean from the moment i saw kristoff. I knew hans was going to be the villian. Disney doesnt like having a girl choose between guys. It has to be 1 person.
Yes he was not evil he's the best hero from elsa
he probably got bored and decided "Hey, I wanna be a villain now!"
No one ordered this, he's a rogue prince.
I feel like Hans was evil all along.
You have a point will all the scenes, but what if it was just a cover story? Like he couldn't obviously go "Hey let's all kill Elsa!" Because then Ana would feel betrayed and never marry him and he would never be king and therefore his whole plan is ruined......
That's my opinion😀
I really wished he appeared in frozen 2 cause there were so many articles saying he would come back but not as a villain
Those guys in red were guards of that old man who was bald (lmao idk his name) and hans thought they wanted to help, turns out the bald man told the red guards to kill elsa. And Hans couldnt careless about what they did to elsa
You made perfect sense in this video plus anyone ever hear of a (red hair...ing)
If you look closer when hans breaks the chandelier he looks up at it thinking he could hit it while he tries to look good infront of 'Elsa's' guards so it looks like he is 'saving her' but in reality he was either still trying to kill her or knock her unconscious. And I actually think the out of nowhere villain is a good thing because kids won't see it coming, Anna never seen it coming and the kingdom didn't see it coming so it was a big surprise to everyone and I want to see that in villains (although I've seen frozen so many times Hans has gotten old😂) but anyway I hope you actually understand where I'm coming from😂😂 Also sorry if you were joking or something I haven't finished the video yet😅
Woah!!! This is amazing
I think they should have had the Duke of Weaseltown be the villain instead of Hans
I love this. Finally someone says it♡ I personally didn't like the movie very much because of its random events, and I'm not only referring to Hans being the bad guy
What if he was pretending that he is the good one???
Honestly it wouldve been like Cinderella and her step sisters but in a male version if they were his brothers trying to kill elsa
Hans is forever evil! He wants forever kill Elsa what he really can feel the Apple of Eden!!!!!
You know what your right Hans was all Mr nice guy till the end and when the grad said “if anything happens to t he princess your all Arundel has left” that’s when he had a change of heart
Right before hans stopped the guard with the crossbow he is looking up at the chandelier. He planned on it falling on her.
Stop making a stupid conspiracy at 2:59. Whenever Hans in arrendelle after the horse ride by anna suddenly appear he ask for the volunteer for help him on searching princess anna and the dude old man had volunteer his two man to helps hans in plan to brings anna back. And why hans allow them to take along ? If you says its only the volunteer were allowed but why hans allow the those 2 man to come along? If Hans wasn't a villain, kristoff, elsa, olaf wouldn't be together and absolutely not a such happy ending to be seen. So the wesselton and Hans the real villain, checkmate. But I heard some backstory about Hans that he been abused by his brothers and working hard to rule the arendelle and become a king so thats why
The reason their were two guards wearing wearing red is that when Hans said let’s go find Elsa the duke with no hair was like don’t leave without my guard hie guards aren’t from arendal
The Duke of Westelton is the best in a gay sense. It's like no matter what Disney does, they always manage to make their characters gay no matter what they do. Wether they like it or not they always find a way without knowing it lol.
I seen rapunzel and Flynn in elsas coronation in the for the first time in forever in frozen
Yeah that is true i believe that
....... the movie wasn’t trying to make it a secret that those were the Dukes men....that’s...... that’s the point.
Yes, that whole video is taking us for idiots...
Oh man Hans thought........ If Anna didn't save Elsa both would have died then no story
Well it already happened
Im just saying like maybe it was a set up and he made the chandelier fall so she would get killed?
Didn't you watch the movie the Duke of weaselton/weaseltown sent his two men
Balan KI didn’t you watch the video? that’s what they’re explaining..
Have you even seen the movie?
Hans Plase to again
red guys are hans brothers
same facial features
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this actually makes sense even though elsa is gay which I like but Hans never deserved to be the villain of the movie more or less the husband or at least boyfriend of Anna
Elsa isn’t gay. It’s just a stupid rumor started by fans WANTING Elsa to be gay.