Why Hans Is NOT the Villain in Frozen | Disney Film Theory
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Today I discuss something that's been bothering me since 2013 when I first went to see Frozen in theaters. It's the fact that I don't like that Hans is the villain in Frozen and I have finally sat down and discussed my theory as to why he definitely IS NOT the Villain in Disney's Frozen.
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All photos and videos are from the 2013 version of Frozen, accessed from Disney+. Other snippets of videos are from Tangled, all accessed from Disney+.
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English Country Garden by Aaron Kenny
Water Lily by hero board
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Night Snow by Asher Fulero
Retreat by Jason Farnham
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I LOVE this theory and completely agree. The look he gives her is so sweet and it was like a switch that was flipped when he “turned evil”.
Britney Wilbur exactly!! Comes from nowhere! Trolls are definitely the culprit!
"Flynn eyes. . . Every villian spells out their plan in song." Love it.
Lego Harry Potter Fanatic Deanna Joy thank you!!
Thank you for mentioning King Candy in the beginning. He is the best written twist villain of all time. It is so obvious he is the villain, but Disney gives us a reason he might not be. They made us believe maybe he isn’t the real villain, that the virus bugs were going to be villains, the final battle. But then they do a 180, and it doesn’t come out of nowhere. If you pay attention or rewatch, it is so obvious. It all fits perfectly. That is why King Candy is my favorite Disney Villain of 2000-2021 that I’ve seen
Absolutely!! I go more in depth about why I like him in my favorite villains video if you want to check it out! Thanks for watching!
Which is weird, because these two movies were written by the same person!
I’d argue Commander Rourke and especially the crew from Atlantis the Lost Empire, given they’re genuinely friendly with Milo and kinda helping him out on his first adventure, despite they’re really after the treasures and wealth of what they assumed was a dead city, not really caring about the Atlantians upon realizing they’re actually alive
I have been saying this for such a long time!!! There are so many ways they could have slightly tweaked the story to make Hans a more understandable villain. But no he's basically an angel of a human being until the end when he suddenly isn't and it makes no sense.
Exactly! It makes no sense! I mostly made this theory because I want to enjoy listening to Love is an Open Door because I love Santino Fontana but I also just have so many qualms with the plot and story of Frozen. So weak and could've been so much better and don't understand why it is still such a big deal to people. Thanks for watching Leah!!
This is so great!!! I was always super disappointed in the Hans "villian" reveal - felt like a super cheap story-telling tactic that Disney usually avoids. I hope your theory becomes canon! Haha. So good.
Ranking The Mouse it would be fantastic if it could be canon! Even if it doesn’t... I’m still going to believe it. Thank you for watching!!
@@PunziesPalace I think im going to as well. Its great to have an actual reason for the twist!!
I think the real villains of this movie are the parents. I mean they split the kids up without giving Anna an explanation and essentially ruin their children’s relationship which causes all the problems when the girls become adults. Idk. I love Frozen but this story has some crazy problems.
Oh most definitely. There should be a ranking of the disney parents, and they would definitely be in the bottom. Basically telling their kid to bottle up all emotions and never feel? Yeah, pretty terrible. It's definitely a movie to enjoy on the surface and try not to think too hard about or you'll get really frustrated at a lot of it.
Punzie's Palace New series idea after Quarantine Princess ranking...Disney Parents ranking!
Louisa Ruby ooh I could definitely do that!
The trolls told the parents how to do their job. The parents just wanted to know how to help their daughters. Troll=villain for the whole movie
@@PunziesPalace Even when I first saw this movie, I honestly wasn't looking for plot holes, and yet I noticed 3 or 4! And until Frozen, I had NEVER come upon a movie where I noticed more than 2 plot holes on the very first viewing. 😡 *EVER.*
I've thought since I first saw the film that Elsa is the real villain. She nearly killed her sister (twice). Then when they wrote that hit song, they decided to create some convoluted bad guy instead.
I like that they made her instead a better character, instead of just a villain, but they could've just gone with her as a misguided villain who finds a way to be good at the end. That would've been a good choice too instead of just trying to label someone as a bad guy.
@@PunziesPalace Amrn
@@PunziesPalace amen*
@@PunziesPalace I quite agree. One dumb decision on the makers' part led to a plethora of plot problems.
I've seen a few people suggest that the "act of true love" sacrifice at the end should have been done by Elsa instead of Anna, b/c it would have been character development for Elsa to actually have to show Anna that she loved her rather than having Anna solve everything for her. Maybe you could make a video about that idea and how it would have changed the movie thematically or plot-wise?
Interesting. I feel like the act of true love could’ve been olaf almost melting for Anna, which could be interpreted as Elsa saving her since he is an extension of Elsa.
@@PunziesPalace aww my hear🥺
Heart*
It melted
This video is so underrated
I love hans not gonna lie
“We can have her saved by the snowman” haha, YUP. I’m 100% on board for this....it re-contextualizes the movie through a lens where I can actually appreciate frozen for the plot- yes please do more videos like this one!!
Teacup For One Aw thank you Matt! Working on some ideas for more like this!!
Okay, I have an idea as to why the trolls would even bother helping the royal family at the beginning of the film: "It's the King!" Trolls are *rarely* helpful to humans, which means that *sometimes* they do. These trolls of the *valley of living rock* seem to have a bit of a history with the *royal family* if Arendelle (myth book with the map) so getting in good with the current royal family would benefit them. Saving Anna as a child can only benefit them in the long run, as *the King* hardly ever goes to them. So the Trolls of Frozen would help the royal family at the beginning of the movie to make sure the King saw them as a powerful, reliable allie. Now that Anna has benefitted from their input twice in Frozen + once (sorta) in Frozen 2 & she's officially engaged to their Kristoff & she's the new Queen of Arendelle they have all the power & influence over the people that they could ever need or want. As to why the trolls would want that.... Whatever the reason, I have a feeling it's not good.
“The Flynn eyes” lol I loved hearing your thoughts.
Unboxing Princess Jelesa haha thank you!!
I really love the troll magic theory on this for the sudden change of personality
Hans backstory is explained in the book " A frozen heart". It says that he was bullied and humiliated by his brothers and his father considered this abusive behavior by his sons to Hans to be a sign of strenght upon the weak. So, I think that Hans probably was so frustrated by this mistreatment that he would have escaped to another realm to marry, and so he came to Arendelle to marry Elsa, but then he saw that Elsa was having trouble with herself so he targeted Anna. But i think that this theory that you made is very good and makes very sense, and if this is confirmed by disney that would be official: the trolls are the real villains!!!!
Your videos and perspectives are so fun! You make a lot of great points here! But I agree, I don’t consider Hans a villain when I think of all the villains. Thanks for making this, so great!
Wildest Gram In The Wilderness thank you!! I feel like Disney leaves him off of villains merch for a REASON!
Lmaoool! I can’t with you! So hilarious as always! “ we’re suppose to believe this guy! “ I always hated that love is an open door was sang between them cause it’s so cute but he was the “villain!”Wow this was super intense..and so good. I’m so confused now...😂😂😂 this was great!! Please do more videos like this!!! I love your other content of course but this is sooo good!
Aw thank you! I hope to do more videos like this sprinkled in with my other content! I really enjoy looking at the movies in this kind of way!!
I've been saying this for such a long time and I'll say it again...Hans did nothing wrong!
I believe Hans has fire powers, I’ve just always felt that vibe around him and that he’s hiding somethin still? his clothes also have fire symbols 🧐🔥
Ooh very interesting!
going even further, maybe the trolls could have mind-controlled hans to kill elsa because anna is next in line for the throne, which would give them indirect control over the human population of arrendele when christoff was to marry her. but once they realise that anna chose to save elsa and that if they didn't use elsa's hug as the act of true love, anna would die, they changed their mind.
6:23 I do not think they just altered his memories. They created a whole new personality that was taking control over him a few times throughout the film. Plus he can tell noone otherwise something bad happens (maybe trolles threathened to kill Hans' family). And they did it years ago coz he has bad reputation in his family.
This is a great theory. I've alway felt something was off or rushed with Hans being the villian ... Now all this needs is a fanfiction. 🤔
So have I. How my parents missed a plot problem that obvious, I don't know.
That smile was smitten. Not scheming. Then comes "get the fiance out of the way."
fear and loneliness and depression are the true villians
Amen
Really fun video! I had a (somewhat) formal debate in which I argued that Elsa was actually the villain in Frozen. It was a debate against Steve’s World if you happen to know him 😀
Actually, I think the true villain behind the frozen movie is not the trolls or the parents. It’s Hans’s father to think about it if Hans had took him, Arrendale for himself, and his father would’ve been king of the Simone Isles and Arendelle for his father, King George
1 Hans was thirteenth in line of succession to the Southern Isles and unlikely to inherit much if anything in the way money or land. His parents may have arranged for him to learn a trade, otherwise he would have no way to support a wife and children, compared to Anna who was one heartbeat away from inheriting a prosperous kingdom, and the owner of that heartbeat had just turned twenty-one and was in excellent health. When one considers that, his being in such a hurry to marry her starts to look suspicious.
2 Codirector Jennifer Lee confirmed in an interview that she meant Hans to be a warning to girls everywhere that some guys are manipulative jerks and they need to choose their romantic partners carefully.
ok hes still a bad villian take him outta the movie and nothing will change
For number 2: Well, that's all fine and dandy, Jennifer, but next time, PLEASE make sure the writing and execution are well-done and believable in the process. You did that with Wreck-It Ralph; I know of what you're capable!
I agree I think the trolls were I don't really like the Fixer-Upper I think these whole idea of Love is an Open doors okay because he's genuinely showing his real feelings I think your theory
Great theory! We enjoyed this perspective!
TheDisneyDigest thank you!!
Trolls or not, Hans's only fault was being a jerk to Anna-which isn't a crime. And lying. Everything else he did was entirely reasonable and justified. The writing for the two Frozen films cannot be more stupid if it tried: spectacle with little substance-which is a shame because the character concepts are interesting and had potential.
Yeah, one of the only things worse than a bad movie is a bad movie with the potential to be good.
7:18 Another proof for your theory is a scene when Elsa creats giant snow monster and is not in control of her powers or emotions at all Hans doesn't kill her though he would have if his acts were cold calculation to become a king.
Disney, you need to READ through your scripts before animating. THAT IS WHY MOVIE SCRIPTS EXIST.
Great twist and different perspective on this! I really enjoyed it!
The Magic In The Music thank you!! Glad you liked it!
this is such an underrated video, i wish it had all the things it deserved
Aww thank you!!
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The real villain had planned to be Elsa, but they wrote THE SONG and they decided to change it mid production. I think this may explain why Hans change his mind so weirdly and why it's practically not even mentioned in the second movie (just for the laughs).
I love the trolls though!! But absolutely loved this video!! Please so more like this!!
The Duke of WEASEL TOWN was the one who tried to kill Elsa and kept calling her a monster.
Honestly, while I'm not a fan of Frozen due to The Snow Queen being my favorite fairy-tale, I would've liked it better if Hans wasn't the villain. He just made no sense at all. So this theory at least explains why he did such a heel turn for seemingly no reason.
Trolls are tricksters! Tricksters aren't inherently evil, yet quite capable of doing some messed up sh*t❕
Love is an open door is too good to be sung by a true villain
You read 'A Frozen Heart' by Elizabeth Rudnick, didn't you?
Disney's POV novel based on Disney's Frozen that switches between Princess Anna's & Prince Hans' POVs: It actually supports this theory in a weird way.
So, I love your theory; how it adds to the original trolls theory, further explaining it.
💜❄️👑
Actually no I’ve never read that but interesting!
@@PunziesPalace She changes the scene where Hans falls into the water under the boat to gaze goofily at Anna's retreating back. In the book he's just standing there, before going to Elsa's coronation ceremony at the chapel, thinking about how confusing Anna for Elsa (the only Princess if Arendelle he was aware of in the book) & that introduction was like a joke his brothers would've pulled on him. It just felt weird how some scenes from the movie involving Hans weren't just omittedbut written over in his OOV so it read different.
Also, in that pivotal scene towards the end of the movie when Hans leans in to kiss Anna, Hans' posture / body language before the almost-kiss (his he was holding / supporting Anna or not) is different than it was in the movie. He actually drops her on the couch before leaving her & uttering that atrocious signature line. In the book, that is; which is weird because he didn't & couldn't have dropped her on the couch in the movie. Hans wasn't holding her body upright in that scene. I know, I've researched it. Interestingly & rather annoyingly, after Hans says his line to Anna (withdrawing) we switch to Anna's POV.
For those of us who like Hans' character & believe he wasn't really a villain it is a rough read because we're reading from his *altered* POV quite possibly from the beginning. There are hints in his POV that he's not remembering everything accurately, yet also that his memories only had to be slightly tweaked to turn him 'evil'.
From his POV: She had given him no choice. (Talking about Elsa) Despite his best efforts to keep the blood off his hands, he saw no alternative. (This is after his conversation with her in the cell)
@@PunziesPalace Okay, so if you do read it, just know that it reads a little rough to us fans who like Hans' character & do not believe he was the villain because she writes almost all of his POV as heavily influenced from his Westergaard family upbringing. Which is bad; Westergaard's view love (& emotion in general) as a weakness.
Just landed here. I do not like the screenwriting in frozen 2 - too many plotholes. I do think that the Hans Theory about the Trolls is interesting. I would liked a frozen 3 with this incipit! It always looked like Hans becoming a villain was a last-minute decision. Than again, Elsa was originally a Villain so who knows how many times the writing has changed, ofc they would have messed something up
Yeah, they really should have shelved the film until they'd fixed the story problems. But instead, they chose to release it sooner just to get a quick buck out of unsuspecting young girls. And if anyone wants to defend that, well, go ahead. But I won't.
I like this theory a lot, but there is a problem with it: It's intelligent and coherent. Disney stopped writing intelligently years ago. This is probably the onset of Disney's writing dementia.
You Really Got Me Thinking Now... This is a Great Theory!
Kingdom Ears thank you so much! Glad it makes you think!
You conjured up a better movie in your imagination than what was on screen.
Which is sad, because she's not the professional here!
Yeah I agree with previous comments, while I hates/dislikes him (his that character), as he becomes ruthless cruel, but even also when if his actions were despicable way his karma was way too merciless & torturous tho, his fate was too horrible for what he did.
Edit: Anyway, that Anna scene which kicks Hans into sea actually was too worst, just as for sake of her revenges only (besides her own unnecessary "obessions/fansgirling/blind & slave of love" whose towards Kristoff). That reasons: for as well it's undirectly was promotes sadistical violence scenes into "family friendly" cartoon animation film where should be good
Great video!!!
I love this video! Very thought provoking.
Thank you!!
Very interesting take. Thanks for sharing. I disagree, but I do like the fresh perspective.
I completely agree! From Hans giving Anna the Flynn Ryder eyes (or, as Flynn would say, "the smoulder") when literally NO ONE outside of the audience can see him, to the trolls being so quick to dismiss Anna's "quote" engagement to Hans in favor of Kristoff, who openly argues against getting with another man's fiancée, to Pabi troll being more than willing to mess with Anna's mind without her knowledge or consent... It all seems more than a little fishy to me.
Good examples of twist villains page for Twist Villain Cliche Loathsome Characters Wiki:
Disney:
Stinky Pete/The Prospector (Toy Story 2): The first good example of a Pixar twist villain, he successfully reveals his villainy in the start of the third act before the climax and spares enough time to reveal the motivations and goals behind how he became a villain, and also had several foreshadowings of his villainy beforehand including him framing Jessie on Woody’s failed escape attempt and gets to duel Woody and Buzz in the climax before his defeat.
Henry J. Waternoose (Monsters Inc.): Another good example of a Pixar twist villain and one of the best ones yet, he successfully reveals his villainy at the end of the second act before the third act and climax and unlike most Diseny villains reveals that his goals are anti-villainious and to kidnap human children to extract their screams in a desperate attempt to stop the energy crisis going on in Monsterpolis from Monsters’ Inc hunted and showed several times beforehand.
I still prefer Kranna over Hanna
Agreed! But I do like that it would make his character have more depth! Thanks for watching!
I don't. I loathe the "we fell in love even though all we did was argue" trope. They had no romantic chemistry, they're only together because the lazy writing dictates so. It also contradicts the movie's "message" of falling in love after having just met; the writers failed to hold themselves to the standards they set, so I won't take their story seriously and instead tear it apart every chance I get.
Finally someone who agrees with me!
Did you know hans also had a sister and his mother poisoned her
Flynn eyes 😂 So true! But noooooo I love the trolls! Even though your theory makes total sense I love them too much to accept they’re bad lol
Park Pioneer interesting. I’ve never met someone who loves the trolls. But if they did this in such a way where the trolls had a redemption arc at the end that could still be good!
Punzie's Palace I think part of my love for them is because we love Iceland, and they have so many awesome tales of trolls (including Yule Lads who visit in the run up to Christmas and have amazing names like Spoon Licker, Door Slammer and Sausage Stealer 😂) Its hard not to love a troll who brings presents and lick spoons 😂😂
Park Pioneer that’s really cool! Yes totally understand the love now!
Ok i loved the duke they want him as a bad guy but he is so full of personality
The trolls turns hans evil
I actually agree with this theory
Why they can’t do a love triangle scenario in Frozen just like what happened in the Hunger Games with Katniss, Peeta and Gale like I mean if you’re going to make Hans one of the cutest characters in Frozen to find true love in that kinda situation you can’t necessarily make him a villain
Hans we know it’s you baby
Frozen III is on the way maybe we'll find out if this Theory is true in that film. :)
My theory, "THE TROLD ARE VILLANS OF FROZEN THREE"
I agree with you
While Prince Hans villain true side might not be like by everyone, I was good and okay with it since that lesson about never marrying people you just meet is a very well educated great health hygiene 100% and great away at learning to avoid strangers to keep our lives safe 100% thank you Jennifer Lee and Chris Buck your great film director creators 100% and love her majesty Princess Anna and Kristoff as a romantic couple there one the very best film couples, I’ve ever seen in a cool good way of it indeed oorah.
I am accepting this as cannon
Yes thank you!!
@@PunziesPalace np besides what you said makes the most sence
I want to see fanfiction of this
Did you watch frozen in the end of frozen hans tried to kill Anna and elsa so he can be king of Arendelle
If you watch the video, I explain my thoughts. 😊
Ok
I hated those trolls.
Bruh, I can't longer loves/likes Anna again anymore...
The King Trolls did NOT sing.....😊 he like also..... once upon on time & (little bit) frozen 2 is best charater. The rest of trolls are bad 😒
Are you kidding he almost killed Elsa
OK BUT HE SPARED ELSA SOOO FCKING MANY TIMES, AND THE TROLLS ARE conTROLLing his mind
I bet you didn’t understand the vid 😂
And he saved Elsa when his men could have killed her when she created an ice monster and started shooting ice darts.
Yes, and Elsa almost destroyed thousands of people's lives. Why on Earth should I feel sorry for her after her wanton display of self-absorption nearly got her subjects killed, or at the very least endangered their livelihoods? Her actions had far worse repercussions than his. It was completely justified to end her, because for all he knows, there's no other way to stop the catastrophe. I hate that the narrative treats this as if he was in the wrong when it's a perfectly reasonable conclusion to come to. But this movie is chock-full of logical inconsistencies.
@AnimaVox_ Indeed it is!
How it won Favorite Animated Movie at the Kids Choice Awards, I don't know. I guess it's because not only do young girls love princesses, but all the guys split their opinions between the other three choices.
But more than that, my mom keeps telling me to "look at it through the eyes of young girls who love princesses and colors" or whatever. That's just insulting, because smart kids don't watch movies to look at princesses, they watch movies to be entertained! And this bring a Disney movie is even more insulting, because Walt Disney was a good man and a hero to children everywhere. And he focused on making movies for kids AND adults. Not just for little girls who have never even been in a castle and have probably never met any real princesses in their life!
I DISAGREE HE LITERALLY IS
The real villain had planned to be Elsa, but they wrote THE SONG and they decided to change it mid production. I think this may explain why Hans change his mind so weirdly and why it's practically not even mentioned in the second movie (just for the laughs).
Maybe in Frozen 3...