Film Theory: Disney LIED to You! (High School Musical)
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Disney's High School Musical seemed pretty straight forward. Most people assume that the mean rich girl Sharpay is the villain. But what if I told you that isn’t the case? Could there be someone else better suited for that title? Someone more spoiled, undeserving, and ungrateful? Scramble to your seats theorists! Class is now in session!
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Straight up, in theater if you're not fully committed, you can forget about even getting a part. Troy missing the 1st act thinking he can show up for the 2nd? He's not getting on stage at all.
Trueee!🧐
Weirdly not for my school. Theater is really popular in my school with guys and girls. A lot of the performers do track and field, tennis, and softball along with it. Last year I helped with the lights since I’ve been helping the theater all the time with making props anyhow. The director even said the first full cast rehearsal was our dress rehearsal in front of the entire school system. The all day practice following it was the first time he had practice with everyone. Everything went off without a hitch. On Saturday morning before the show there was a track and field meet and everyone still made it on time without an issue
lissamaven Sharpay and Ryan can’t get the leads 24/7 because they are the only names on the sign up sheet for auditions for the leads because no one else signed up because Sharpays name takes up almost the entire sign up sheet. Darbus was probably tired of seeing Ryan and Sharpays Names as the only names for the leads for every single musical 24/7.
Also Troy would have shown up for the first act if Gabriella hadn’t been at Sanford which was like 4 hours or more away. He was at Sanford in movie 3.
He is fully committed to theatre in a way other wise he wouldn’t have showed up period. he just also likes basketball at the same time. Sharpay and Ryan are good at other things as well that aren’t theatre related. Like Ryan and Sharpay don’t balance their time doing other stuff when they aren’t doing theatre and singing.
Also I think the idea for theatre mainly is you just have to show up period mainly at some point. Other wise they wouldn’t have understudies for good reasons.Troy despite missing the first act still showed up for the second one. Plus if Gabriella hadn’t been at Sanford they would have Been there for the whole entire act. The only reason they missed the first act was because Gabriella was all the way at Sanford and Troy had to go and get her then drive all the way back. Gabriella was the other main Lead for the movie 3 musical he couldn’t have done the musical without her other wise he’d be stuck singing with Sharpay and he doesn’t like singing with Sharpay as much as he does Gabriella as shown in movie 2.
Troy in movie 3 kind of had no choice but to show up for the second act since he was like 4 hours or more away. Theatre also has to be more understanding for those who have other stuff going on espeically if someone is like 4 hours or more away. If they are understanding when someone gets sick,or has family issues...then someone playing a sport or being hours away is no different than someone who is sick or has a family emergency pop up. Especially if the theatre is understanding for people like with Sharpay then Troy is no different. Sharpays only Been in like 17 school productions her entire education like there weren’t times she and Ryan missed productions because something else happened.
Metal/rock/alternative music person :I think that’s because most schools are a lot more understanding if something comes up at the last minute there are understudies for a reason. Like if someone has a sports game or something else come up it’s no different than someone being sick or out of town. Sometimes last minute stuff pops up when you least expect it.
@@Megz1794 Theatre teachers choose who is best for the part and Darbus knows that Sharpay and Ryan are talented and hard-working performers. Just being able to sing is not the only thing that's considered and she knows absolutely nothing about Troy and Gabriella except that they were late (strike 1), Gabriella had stage-fright indicating that she wasn't used to being onstage (strike 2) and that they're dedicated to other clubs (not necessarily a strike but definitely puts them a tier below the actually dedicated drama kids who've spent years working at their craft). There's a reason new theatre kids are given supporting roles first.
Troy had already made a commitment to being in the play, and you can't miss the first act of a play only to show up for the second. Never mind the fact that it confuses the audience, it shows a clear lack of care and respect. If you can't do a job well, then let the people who actually can get on stage and give the audience what they want.
It's not a crime to have different hobbies, but it is bad to not know how to balance those hobbies. You can't say "well if he didn't care he wouldn't have shown up" because that's not how it works. If someone was late to a job interview, a recital, etc that'd be a strike against them. The world doesn't bend over to fix your mistakes. (except they're the protagonists so it does). Theatre, like everything else, requires commitment. Maybe your experiences are different, but most theatre shows require everyone to commit to the show. If you don't turn up, you aren't getting on stage. Even if you have a good reason, you still missed half the show, so no. If the show runs for more than one night you might get to perform later, but otherwise you're not getting on that stage. That's what understudies are for.
And speaking of good reasons, BEING SICK OR HAVING FAMILY ISSUES IS NOT THE SAME AS "oh i have a sport's game silly me haha". The former are completely out of your control. Unless you went skinny dipping in winter, coming down with a cold on the night of a performance isn't something you deliberately caused. Having a prior engagement is not a good reason, if anything it just shows bad planning on your part.
Finally, you can't use "well he doesn't like singing with Sharpay" as a defense. You think every co-performer likes the other? It's called acting and most directors will tell you to suck it up and get on with the show. Songs are usually 4 minutes long and shows max at 3 hours. Unless Troy had an actual good reason to dislike Sharpay (and by good reason I mean racism, violence, breaking institutional rules etc and not just "she's not Gabriella") then this is just petty.
Hell, why was Gabriella allowed to audition if she was gonna be 4 hours away the night of the show?? Why didn't she make plans to be there like staying over at a friend's place or driving there by herself earlier in the day?
In conclusion, I get the feeling you're just trying to exonerate Troy and Gabriella, and while you're free to like them as characters, you really can't justify everything they do. Besides, you don't have to, the movie logic already bends over backwards to fix their mistakes.
And why is Troy the valedictorian when he clearly doesn’t have the grades for it? If I was the hardworking kid with straight A’s I would feel cheated.
David Kilamon
No way. I never saw the 3rd movie, just parts of it. Troy really was the valedictorian? That literally makes no sense at all.
Yeah it should be Gabriella
umm, to be a serious consideration in ANY school sport or activity, your grades have to be at LEAST satisfactory. He probably is naturally talented as a whiz kid but prefers physical activity over brain clubs. There's nerds in EVERY division.
The Uber Successful in hsm3, Troy said he would probably have to sit finals multiple times over....implying that he knew that he was a mediocre student at best. And anyway, “satisfactory grades” aren’t good enough to be class valedictorian.
i was gonna say because he was better looking...
but that would be weird for a teacher
Honestly it’s good that Troy doesn’t go with Sharpay. She is so hard working and kind that Troy doesn’t deserve.
Plus she tried harder to meet him halfway.
Sharpay is *filled with DETERMINATION
I love Sharpay but sometimes she tries a little too hard especially when she changes the songs Kelsi writes Troy is a nice guy although sometimes it’s hard to show It
yess sharply worked soo hard for the show and what did troy do?COME IN AND BECOME THE LEADER OF THE PLAY 😒
@@rhearfl698 There’s two sides to that. She tells Kelsey to “write it in her key.” Different singers have different styles. Sharpay probably understands what styles suit her vocals. I did choir and stopped after a year because my voice sounded rigid and less smooth with the straight laced music choices. Give me show tunes, alternative, pop etc my vocals are solid- im a 2nd alto. Vice versa a classmate of mine sounded good in choir but if she sang a modern song she’d hit the notes (had a wide range) but it’d sound soulless and stiff. If you “compared us, she would skillfully be better. But it depends on who’s listening and what is required. In warm ups we sang a lot of pop music and when people heard me they were like 😱 you sound so good. I wouldn’t say Im an amazing singer.
Did it hurt Kelsey that her songs weren’t portrayed how she wanted? Im sure. But the kid didn’t stick up for herself either. Like she wrote the whole show. Im sure she had some input on creative direction. My high school did student led productions.
Lets not forget that Sharpay LEARNED ANOTHER LANGUAGE FOR HER AUDITION SONG. Now THAT is effort.
Dang she did?! What language was it?
@@Aimi_Kaneko Spanish(HSM1) and another one for hsm2 or 3 I think
Bop to the top was the song
SE COMPROMETIÓ!!!
@@Aimi_Kanekoin HSM2 she learns Hawaiian I think
Just wanna point out something:
When I was in theater, we also did a production of High School Musical. Literally one of the first things that my drama teacher said was that you could be the best singer in the world, but if you were timid and meek, you WOULD NOT get the lead role. Confidence had first priority. So the fact that Gabriella got the lead role for the play when she got stage fright at the audition is absolutely BONKERS to me.
Same
same Gabriella getting the lead role makes no sense! If you're trying out for a lead role you need to be confident in front of an audience if you have stage fright you should be in the back round or on the stage crew
@Madison Frank
*background
..... you know the last song of the first movie was the last callback, right? and she wasn't scared then
SAAAAME
I also hate the fact that Ryan and Sharpay are so experienced and they probably worked their behinds off 24/7 to get the parts, only to lose to two beginners who literally have no reason to be the leads of the play
Guess its beginners luck
True, in my school's theater club, newcomers would often be extras, dancers/ensemble, and would be super lucky to have a part on the main cast in general. The movie is super unrealistic.
EXACTLY!
@@austinpelissier2131 wait.. you mean musicals dont spontaneously occur in the hallways of high school?!?!?! I totally thought this is EXACTLY what happens in high school. I'm shocked that this MOVIE made by DISNEY channel, would be less than realistic..
Except Ryan is the worst, hat wearing, backstabbing brother EVER.
Imagine an alternate reality where Matpat starred in high school musical and Zac Efron is doing the theory channels.
Nope, I don't want to, it wouldn't be the same..
Hah! I can’t even imagine-
Yeah. That Zac efron doesn't do acting
It would be perfect
I would be ok w that
Signed, Wildcat fan
Troy is probably the most short sighted person and naive character I’ve ever seen. In addition, the “good guys” are toxic af, Sharpay is actually a good person with something called honor yes I said it Sharpay is the most honorable and morally sound person in the series.
BRO HIS FRIENDS ARE JERKS
Literally he gives them a job and they get mad at him 💀
BRUH Sharpay gets everything? Y'all aren't looking at Gabriella. She gets to everything without experience half the time smh
Wooli e I swear her and Troy are the ones that basically get everything, it’s all handed to them without them doing anything to EARN IT!!!! Which Ryan and Sharpay did, they were honestly the most hardworking characters in HSM to me, yet in the end they didn’t get the Spotlight it’s handed to two people who didn’t even take it seriously. Literally this kind of gives the message that you shouldn’t work hard for the things you want, you’ll get it by being lazy (Troy) inexperienced (Troy & Gabriella)
True
Natalia Washington periodt
At least Gabriella IS smart so getting into Stanford wasn't out of reach. She also did choir before HSM1 so she had some singing experience. Everything else just sort of fell in her lap.
Ninja Aura Not ALWAYS
In theatre, if you're not on time, not committed, and not serious overall about the production, you can forget about getting a supporting role, let alone the main role. As a theatre kid, Troy infuriates me.
What are you gonna do? Put him to shame with your box steps? Pull out the view points? Comment on his stance?
Exactly. I was in Les Miserables a few years ago and played the main character Jean Valjean. The theater teacher had to make sure I was COMMITTED to doing the role. I had at least six to eight hours per day working on this musical. I also had private singing lessons, extra blocking, character development and exercises and a huge schedule. I also had to memorize a lot of lines (obviously) , be on time for call time, and try on costumes as the opening night drew nearer. Troy and Gabriella are not and will never be good theater students
Yeah, yeah, we get it, you all are SO talented ...
@@universalpower419 No one said anything about talent. They just said you have to actually *care* about the show you're performing, which is true. Don't be a Troy.
Me, the person who is early to every audition: haha YES
Poor Sharpay was villainized when she was just devoted to the arts and still did nice things for Troy and Gabriella. She was only shocked that Troy and Gabriella got the leads when they were late to auditions (Twice!) and have no experience in the arts and put no effort into their performances. Sharpay was betrayed by her own brother too, but she still kept strong and decided to help her high school’s theatre program. Troy and Gabriella got whatever they wanted even when they said and did bad things because they’re the main characters. Sharpay deserves justice.
As a theater kid myself, commitment is incredibly important, especially when you're a main role.
Okay guilty confession. I always loved her way more than the main characters. She was more memorable and wasn't actually that evil like you said.
Also, she's quite nice to look at ^_^
...I thought that was a given.
True, tbh the movie wouldve been quite boring without her
Same Ashley tisdale is such a goddess
@@questionmarkoverload And Ryan and his stupid hat
"This (college) could change your life!" "I care more what my friends think of me!" Thanks, Disney
Devils' Advocacy Productions oh my god I remember wanting her to go to the college so badly
I just am going to a smaller college and I have 2 friends that are past college age so yeah not a issue for me XD
He was honestly super insecure even though popular
HAHAHAHAHAHAH Same bruh
It’s a great lesson for the kids!
Tbh the person who annoyed me the most was Taylor. She knew Gabriella for all of two months and still tried to force her hand to choose the decathlon with the webcam stunt. And in HSM 2 she kept blowing up the narrative that Troy was taking more interest in Sharpay when in reality Troy was super uncomfortable with every interaction with her but was trying to do what he could to be able to afford college.
So, Taylor's a "pick me" girl?
Taylor also had a bit of internalized misogyny where she told Gabriella about how all cheerleaders are vapid & boy crazy, and how the Decathlon women's academic ambitions made them better
Garbriella is the only one of the so called “good guys” who isn’t spoiled or rude or mean. She hasn’t done really anything wrong. She actually try’s to be nice. Everyone else is jerks though
This theory was so satisfying. So may people assume just because a girl is rich, popular and wears makeup, she has to be the biggest jerk in the world. And just because the main protagonist gets the boy, saves a cat and is "naturally pretty", she has to be a saint. Thank you for proving that things aren't that black and white.
Hi I'm a human can you like my vlogs please
Amy Geyer you sound like youre a triggered 6 year old
Oh no watch out that girl.. wears pink... and has blonde hair
@@2tuffbasketball how are they being racist
THL Productions they don’t mean black and white as in race. They mean like good and evil. Nothing is one thing or another. It’s mixed and what might seem like a bad thing is actually good and vise versa
Well isn’t this just the most satisfying thing ever seeing Sharpay getting all the respect and Troy getting dragged in the dirt.
Why is noone replying lol
As she should💅🏾
pogchamp
yes
The justice they both deserved
Honestly I think the real villian in High School Musical was Troy's father and Mrs. Darbus, they together put a lot of pressure on the students and really if it wasn't for them, they wouldn't be as divided as they were. Sharpey didn't even like Troy in the first movie, so it was totally confusing when she was interested in him in the second.
True
ten bucks says the directers wanted a reason behind the conflict of the movie and Sharpay was the scapegoat.
No one can take that bet because everyone knows you’re right.
Although I agree with every word said in this episode, tone matters. Sharpay constantly throughout the movie says things that are obviously sarcastic or made to put the others down. But once again I do agree she gets out down for nothing, she works hard and deserves to come out on top
There is no way two extremely experienced and talented actors who clearly have a standing relationship with the director, would get passed up for two COMPLETE noobs, one of whom has extreme stage fright
I mean it makes total sense for Troy to get casted but Gabriella 100%, would never have had the chance.
@@erindibblee8094 Troy didn't even sing in HSM it was Drew Seeley's voice all along, none of them would ever get casted in real life
Exactly! I mean Troy ig makes sense why he would be casted but why Gabriella? I mean 1. She's new to the school in the first movie and 2. Doesn't have any theater experience whatsoever! 3. Has stage fright
I mean usually you won't get a lead role until after you do a couple of shows, and you DEFINITELY won't get it on the first show you do ever
@@SieMiezekatze Your confusing Troy the character with Zack Effron the actor. Troy, the character has Zack Effron's body and Drew Seeley's voice when singing in the same way that Darth Vader has James Earl Jones's voice, and David Prowse's body at the time. By your logic, Vader really sounds like an Englishman.
But those two experience and talented actors couldn't even perform a simple love ballad and had to switch it to an upbeat show-stopper, as opposed to the complete noobs, who could actually sing the song as it was written.
What I always hated is how Troy breaks EVERY PROMISE HE MAKES in High School Musical 2 and has the NERVE to sing a song about how trustworthy he is
IKR he was my least favorite character by far.
Wait he does!? I haven’t finished watching the first two movies sorry.
And he’s annoyingly stupid.
Amir Kirkwood how?
@@WhoCares-yt4ot he sacrificed a potential full ride scholarship because he wants to hang out with his friends. he could have easily still had the scholarship if he had just chosen to not be like "you're all beneath me now that I have a scholarship", he could have had his friends and a future set up for him.
I also don’t understand why Troy is nervous that people will make fun of him for doing theatre. He is the most popular kid in the entire school. Whatever he says is cool, everyone else will just fall in line.
Stick to the status quoooooooooooote!
The more I watch HSM I think “Why are they auditioning to different songs?” It would make more sense that they would be doing the same song so Ms. Darbus could more easily determine who sings it better. That being said I would love to have seen Ashley and Lucas do Breaking Free or Vanessa and Zac (or more likely Drew Seeley) doing Bop to the Top.
Funny thing here is that Zac Efron said in an interview that he HATED Troy as a character and would punch him immediately in the face if given the chance.
can you send me the link where he says that
same i wanna see
I laughed when I read this. Also same
yes zac good boy
Bryan when did he say that
Sharpay was the confident fashionista and drama club outcast that everyone at the school pretended to dislike but secretly admired and envied… she was always sweet at heart and never a true mean girl.
Regina is just a stupid untitiled manipulative brat compared to Sharpay!
Oh! And even if the actress is an adult, lets not forget that the character is propabably like 15!! That's sooo worse!!! Yikes!!
all she ever wanted was to be the star and she was great at it. she was just angey that she never got it.
Omg yes, Regina was a b**ch
Yes I also like fancy sharpie
@@canuelslaurence
I always liked Sharpay the most back when I first watched these movies. Now that I'm older and can really comprehend all the things you've pointed out, I'm glad that even as a kid I could pick up on these things. I found myself gravitating towards her more and more as each movie released, and thinking that I'd much rather hang out with someone like her than any of the others. She always seemed like a genuinely nice person that was just misunderstood.
But hey, that's just a theory... a comment theory
I don't think a genuinely nice person would homewreck on someone's relationship, bully people, treat her brother like trash, and manipulate others for selfish reasons
I understand why Sharpay was mad when Troy wouldn’t sing with her, I mean she put so much effort in to getting college scouts to get in and Troy wouldn’t even sing ONE song with her. He could have gotten a scholarship and decides that friends were more important
Forgetting that Troy bullied the freshman in the third movie! He took his clothes and exposed him to the theater. Also, Troy was the reason the guy decided to sing with sharpay , ruining the show. Cause he believed sharpay liked him cause Troy said. Then Sharpay might have lost the scholarship to julliard cause her show was ruined. Troy May not have been the villain but was a really mean person to the only person who looked up to him.
I thought it was funny when he made the guy believe Sharpay had a crush on him..
@@here5588 It's mean.
@@Isabelle-hv6ny lmfao it's called a prank and jeez man "mean" who tf cares XD
@@baguette_tt9601 I feel like this is a joke but I can’t entirely tell so
If it’s a joke lmao
If it’s not
Why was I sent to court all I did was stabbed that dudes dog it was just a prank bro
@@elohim447 ikr bro couldn't handle a prank smh. People are so soft 🙄
I've also noticed that it makes a "Blondes vs Brunettes" fight which is really not something that sits well with me. Oh, sweet, smart brunettes are better than hardworking, pink-loving blondes who are usually cast as the villain. Can we all just...not slap on stereotypes.
I swear to god I had to change schools because I was bullied for being a pink loving blonde and everyone called me Barbie and stuff. Now I've embraced my Barbie identity every time that I'm walking into the faculty of international economics I'm studying in Europe. People just assume you can't be feminine, confident and smart at the same time. Watch and learn.
Yesss why do movies like to make blondes the bad or evil one
Ooh look at me I'm a dumb, rich blonde who loves pink and if you hurt my feelings I'm telling daddy.
Why do so many movies do this? It makes me sick. *Sigh*
"brunette" is a real English word? I'm French and I just laughed so hard to see this word in the middle of your comment 😂
@@Daiglaki it's originally French borrowed by English. In French the masculine spelling is Brunet and is taken from Brun which literally means brown
But it typically means girl with brown hair.
Troy: I don’t want my friends to know that I sing
Also Troy: immediately sing in front of the teammates
Sharpay offered Troy a fully payed college education, as well as the starting blocks to a professional athletic career, and he DECLINED. I HAVE SO MUCH BEEF WITH THAT MAN
Oh, he knows what he really wanted. BOO. FREAKING. HOO.
Somewhere in an alternate universe : "Matthew Patric you stole my career!"
Who knows maybe Zac Efron would make a great theorist.
Wow I didn’t even think of that 🤣😂😅🤟🏾❤️💕
I died laughing from reading this
I would totally want to go to that alternate universe!
Somewhere in the universe, Zack Efron is laughing.....
there's an alternate universe where matpat was the star of hsm and zach efron runs a popular web series on youtube
I would watch both of those
I doubt he would be half as good as matpat
It would be called The Zac Theorists
MatPat is a lot more catchy than ZacEff.
Soda 🇵🇷 True. True
It’s soo annoying how Ryan and Sharpay have probably been working their asses of for months. Then we have Troy and Gabriella who most likely woke up one morning and thought: I think I’ll try out for the school musical today, just for the fun of it
in the books, Sharpay isn't really evil tbh. She's interpreted as a non-loveable, but decent character. Most of the time she is the rival, but in the books they usually get along in the end bcs.. classic disney man.
I am sorry books their are books
"I care about how my friends see me more than my future"
That's... that's not a good lesson Disney
Sarah Walter that's what I thought!!!!
Right? Like that’s not really a good mindset
Their making a new one and by the trailer everyone’s life has gone to hell and Troy is a bar guy
zappy tarziea you sure that's not fan made?
Sarah Walter
😂 IKR
tbh all sharpay ever did was try and help troy achieve his dreams and everyone was always mean to her 😂🤷♀️
riles_roo Fr!
Your really correct
Not zeke he told everyone top give her a chance
@@giavannarhem6479 I kind of wish we had an alternate universe where she was in love with Zeke instead. He'd actually be more deserving of her love and of Sharpay moving heaven and earth to help him get to the university of his choice with scholarship in tow.
@@giavannarhem6479 An underrated character😒
Fun fact: I had been offered the opportunity to be an extra in the movie, since I live in Utah, but I was too afraid to actually accept that invitation (though, my friend did accept that invitation, and got kicked out of the film because he punched Zack Effron (at least that's what he claimed happened)).
what did the entitled spoilt rich boi do?
@@rachelgarnier-qv8kq my friend never really explained.
I haven't watched all of HSM and didn't even start the 2nd or 3rd, but I never thought Sharpay was a bad person. As a fellow theater geek, I always though her and Ryan should have gotten roles instead of Troy who's life was basketball and Gabriella who just wanted to do smart things.
Like let the theater geeks be geeks! ☹️
When mat is lowkey sharpays super fan😂
Ellen Marie after zeke
Mat rebutted everything that people could use to bash Sharpay
**highkey
Aren't we all haha
@@weedleisopcute3626 *refuted ,not rebutted
Y'know Troy, if theater is really something you want to pursue, you're gonna have to start being comfortable performing alongside people who aren't your girlfriend :/
but that's cheating
@@svampebob007 *cough* *cough* "performing"
@@svampebob007 Lol there's a difference between cheating and working professionaly together.
@@Ying13280 high school musical deserved better. 🌟
@@svampebob007 how is it cheating to perform?
I honestly cant believe its been 6 YEARS since this came out I MEAN THIS IS SO GOOD FOR HOW LONG THIS CAME OUT
"Actually, just the plot of Grease"
Me: "Uhh.... He has a point."
This is actually funny though, Grease IS a musical
Troy:
Sharpay: “You coulda had a bad b*ch, noncommittal. HELP YOU WITH YOUR CAREER, JUST A LIL” 🎶
Supposed hold me down, but you're holdin me back. And that's the sound of me not callin you back!
Immediatly started to sing😂
WHY MEN GREAT TIL THEY GOTTA BE GREAT
@@kkaaiittlliinn DON'T TEXT ME SAY IT STRAIGHT TO MY FACE!
Mayonaka Tsuki BEST FRIEND SAT ME DOWN IN THE SALON CHAIR
And just because someone is protagonist doesn’t make them the hero, a protagonist is the main character and the story usually centers around them. Most might see Sharpay as the Antagonist, a character who is against the main character and not necessarily evil. But Sharpay isn’t really an Antagonist, she try’s to HELP the main character
The antagonist isn't against the main character, they just cause conflict. For instance, let's say the protagonist and his/her friend were both trying out for a musical. Would the friend be considered a villain because he/she is wanting the same role as the protagonist? No, but they do cause conflict. A villain is actively working to defeat the hero, but an antagonist just causes conflict in the story. Just because Sharpay is going for the same role in the musical doesn't mean she's the villain.
Sharpsy also gets maulplated by troy
Joline Taylor No she does not. Not for his good anyway. She was manipulative.
Even as a child i've never really viewed Sharpay as an antagonist but more of an "anti hero"
nevaeh By doing nice things for him in hopes to at least get a “lead role” of singing with him? Once? She possibly wanted more but settled with this very simple thing! Mean while troy made her do things for him as if she’d get that prize than in the end totally flops on the promise. Making someone do something because they think they’ll get something in return (while not holding your end of the deal) is manipulative and selfish. Very bad.
I actually agree with this. She helped with his career and goals. Gabriellia only cares about what she wanted.
Finally someone defending Sharpay!!!!!
Thank God!!! I’ve always loved her and hated the fact that she was misunderstood and mistreated. Yes she can be a brat but we all need to understand why.
Thank You for understanding ❤️
Sharpay isn’t perfect, she’s a little bit of a diva but she has redeeming quality’s, she has character flaws but compared to literally every other character she probably has the best morals.
She’s probably the only person who had actually a real character development during the series (including the spin-off)
The best morals? Sis literally attempted to break up Troy and Gabriella. She desperately threw herself at Troy knowing he had a girlfriend. And she was mean and selfish towards Ryan and others
@@thelovelyone2828 Sounds like an accurate teenage girl.
@@rorrim0 Um no. Sounds like a sociopath. I don't know what kind of teenage girls you hang out with but I wouldn't want to meet them. And as a teenage girl, I've never acted like that and will never
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tbh i never liked troy cuz most of the time he was over rated as the “ perfect teenager “ that everyone loves
Anime ASMR same
Anime ASMR yeah Ryan was always better
Plus, no teenagers are perfect they are just walking abominations of axe not and showering in three months
Just like Harry Potter
Me too
My only thoughts process was how the techs would have to deal with them..the costume people having to speedily get them ready, the sound crew chasing them down for mics while they’re having “moments”, the stage manager having to deal with them being late or just not showing up because of conflicts they clearly didn’t disclose..Sounds infuriating.
Sharpay has always been my favourite and I loved how she never gives up and remains a really awesome person throughout the franchise. :D
Sharpay: Helps Gabriella with vocals, helps Troy get to the college of his dreams, gives her brother the award (even though he backstabbed her), even though she didn't get chosen for Juilliard (which makes no sense because she is super talented), she still decides to help out with her school's theater program, listens to her parents, helps out the lead actress, and helps out a little boy, and is a SUPER hard worker.
Troy: Gets everything he wants, BUT STILL CAN'T EVEN SING ONE SIMPLE SONG! woooooooooooowwwww
Juilliard does not even have a musical theater program
Yeah except sharpay back stabbed him first
And can’t act to save his life
Raquel De Abreu 2026 ??????
whaaat, Sharpay only cared about herself... And only helped Troy to win the talent show... She is a spoilt brat...
Dude, this ain't a theory, you're basically proving it RIGHT. Not a theory, but a true statement. It has great evidence and rebuttals, and there is explanation as well. I think that you're right.
Edit: Prob most likes I’ve gotten.
That's not what a theory is
A hypothesis is essentually an educated guess. A theory is a statement you say with evidence, and a theorum is something that's 100 percent true.
Like it's a theory that fat people have a lower life expectancy but you can never 100 percent say that all fat people will have a lower life expectancy because it isn't true and you can't prove it to be true either way.
So most things that aren't mathematical are theories, even when they have strong evidence, like the theory of Gravity and the theory of evolution
@@megaibfernape3612 Dude, I did not say that was a theory XD The first sentence I said was "Dude, this ain't a theory"
@@megaibfernape3612 he just said that?
@@megaibfernape3612 r/woosh
DaPandacommanda yt That's no r/woosh.It wasnt even a joke
Sharpay does have some redeeming qualities and we can all agree that she’s hardworking and cares about theatre. And yes the other characters aren’t exactly angels either. I think the problem is that nobody sees the other characters for their faults as much as Sharpay, and people don’t pay enough attention to Sharpay’s good qualities. She’s still a villain tho lol (in terms of the plot line of HSM)
Her fears are well founded, but she was not testing their resolve in HSM 1. Sharpay and Ryan overheard Gabriella and Troy practicing. Ryan said they’re good and Sharpay said they needed to do something (getting the dates changed). She was trying to drive them away. And she did help Gabriella with vocal exercises, but only after her attempts to sabotage Gabriella’s chance at the lead failed. It wasn’t in control anymore. Yes her fears were justified but in terms of the plot, she was still the villain in this scenario. She put the others in a tough situation, only redeeming herself after she failed. And if we look in the movie Troy and Gabriella were putting in the work practicing for that audition. Yes the way they got the audition and the lead roles wouldn’t happen irl, but that’s not the point here.
In HSM 2 Sharpay was literally trying to bribe Troy for her affection and the duet. It doesn’t seem like a lot to ask and Troy did take all the bribes (there’s a lot of problems with HSM 2) but Sharpay doing that when Troy is in a relationship regardless is overstepping boundaries. And Sharpay trying to bribe Troy and preoccupying him with things caused a rift in his relationships with his friends. Troy could’ve handled it better and he and Gabriella could’ve had better communication (again, many problems in HSM 2), but that doesn’t negate the fact that Sharpay’s actions still play a part in all of this happening, thus still making her a villain. And again, Sharpay joined in with everyone in the end after everything she did failed. Also how could she accept an award when she didn’t really perform on stage lol. I’m not negating the fact that the other characters have faults too and nobody seems to pay attention to that. And I’m not negating the fact that Sharpay has some good qualities about her. But the fact of the matter is, Sharpay is still a villain in the HSM plot
For some reason, I’ve come back to this video every time I’m bored and wanna watch something good. It’s just so entertaining.
30% salty about Zac
10% puns
60% facts
Eh, you forgot the 2% of complaints about Ryan's hats
All of them combined equal 100% theory and 100% coke
@@thatinternetshipperyouknow632 That would be diet coke
100 % facts
@@amy-janebradford714 I'm sorry did he SAY diet Coke or did he say COKE???
(I'm joking don't hurt me plz)
13:37
Sharpay: "Troy, Troy. This could literally change your life!"
Troy: "I'm more interested in what my friends think of me."
Isn't that usually what the whiny teenager in a movie says to make us hate them?
I love how this answer is the actual problem in HSM1, but the "solution" in HSM2.
You should never be what somebody else wants you to be. Therefore, Troy is basically making himself get peer-pressured
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Yes, because what your friends in HIGHSCHOOL think of you is soooo much more important than your future
Sharpay: "Troy, Troy. This could literally change your life!"
Troy: "I'm more interested in what my friends think of me."
Och so he's basically saying Sharpy isn't his friend... why did I not notice this before.
Sharpay has always been my favorite, since the movies came out. I totally sided with Zeke. Wish we got to see them get together. She even tried his baking when all the other kids wouldn't. She is a good person and I'm glad someone could see it. Too bad everyone else saw her as a villain.
Sharpay and Zeke forever!
Honestly, Kelsi (the awkward piano girl with glasses) was also a pretty good person.
Troy: "I care more about what my friends think of me!"
Also Troy: *Completely ditches all of his friends to play basketball with the professionals*
Am I seriously the only one who noticed this?
That was the point of the second movie though. It was about Troy failing his friends but at the end realizing he was wrong. His friends made him realize that he was becoming too self-absorbed. He recognized it and changed. So, in a way, he was redeemed from that.
@@monsev.arellano9125 it doesn’t make him any less of a bad friend and a liar
@@Caitlin288 i mean everybody makes mistakes, that’s why he made up for them because he realized he was wrong
oH No ItS cAlLEd ChAraCTeR dEVelOpmENt
You missed the entire point of Troy’s story in HSM 2
Now that I see this Troy and Gabriella are the real brats
Sharpay is the only decent person in the ENTIRE franchise
Sharpay is hardworking and nice and just because she is rich doesn't mean she is rude
Her parents worked hard foe their money
True the first movie all she did say all get you a role and help you lut secomd movie helps troy woth college like his dad is a basketball coach like he cant afford college all on his own third movie literly does nothing to anyone but dreams of being on brodway
Sharpay and zeke were the only good characters
@@egendary6811 i really like the both of them. They're the kind of people who can see the beauty and everyone :) especially Zeke
No I like Zeke 😇 he's a sweetheart
@@emilyjdgv6095 truuuue omg he's such a cinnamon roll. I really wish he had more screentime tho
sharpie never gave up after being rejected multiple times.even after her backstabber brother done that she still gave him the trophy I think she just wants to act mean and big but actually is a kind hearted girl and Gabriella and troy hated her but all she wanted is to be troys girl friend it is amazing that after high school musical 1 and 2 she never gave up in loving him. I love that she was in the movie 😉😁😘
Ashley Tisdale gave this entire franchise such a BOOST
I've always said this. I always hated Troy and Gabriela so much because they always reminded me of the popular kids who never talked to me but still called me a brat or a bitch for never talking to them. Funny thing is they never tried to talk to me either and if they had they'd have realize I could not talk. Literally could not.
The_White_Witch hates life are you mute?
I think they point they want to get across is they were too busy calling her a bitch and hanging out with dickheads to even want to talk to her.
ILL KILL THEM FOR YOU CAUSE I HATE THOSE POPULAR BRATS!!! AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW THEM!!!
Janeth Cervantes Calm down dude
Janeth Cervantes wow
I'm 100% sure Matpat is lowkey jealous of the "stupid hat"
Aaron_Wells Lmao
Fricking hat, man.
HAHAHHHHAHH
Yep he's jealous of the hats
Maybe
SHE'S COMMENTING ON MY STANCE! 3:10
Sharpe actually wasn’t testing their loyalty to the play though, she saw their friends talking, assumed they were trying to help Troy and Gabriella beat them out for the part, and then had the callback put on another day because of it
And I will say that in Troy’s defense, both Troy and Gabriella’s friend groups are awful, conniving, and manipulative. That type of toxicity would make anyone constantly annoyed and irritated and lash out to a degree
Also Sharpe DID give Gabriella a commitment to the math team that she didn’t want and attempted to get away from
Tbh Sharpay's movie really let us see how hardworking she really is and changes how you see her in the high school musical films when you rewatch. Also now I kinda wish Troy ended up not being able to go to any college and having no friends
@dristawxstaken Sharpay never let Troy and Gabriella have a turn to sing Kelsi had to do what Sharpay said she threatened Kelsi to rewrite you are the music in me really I mean come on sure she is talented but why not let somebody else have a turn
Just consider the snl skit about troy bolton canon lmao
Sharpay and Ryan were working in theatre for YEARS and when two newcomers rock up and get the parts they should have gotten through logic of theatre and basic unspoken laws of the world, they had every SINGLE right to make sure those two were 110% dedicated to their roles, and they just weren't. Sharpay wanted to help the newcomers and got given crap for trying to defend herself or even try to get her role back. She is a theatre kid, she knows how it runs and the dedication needed and she wanted to prove they weren't, because who wouldn't? If you know someone has 3 jobs and is going for a fourth, and that position just so happens to be the one you've been gunning for, then this lil brat rocks up, gets the job, then still can't find time to do the job YOU worked so hard for, you'd be furious
EDIT: WHY IS THIS THE MOST LIKED THING I HAVE DONE ON ALL OF SOCIAL MEDIA I HATE IT HERE THIS IS JUST AGREEING WITH MATPAT AND YOU GUYS GAVE 4K LIKES W H Y
Amen
Amen
Amen
Ajax Tanner So right
Amen
I agree with everything, except that Sharpay did push away and backstab Ryan first, she had him doing so in return coming from a mile away. The Evans twins are iconic
Troy: "I'm MoRe InTreSTeD iN WhAt mY FRiEndS ThiNK oF mE!!!"
Also Troy: Nah, I know you want to go with me to the all star basketball players, and I can let you, but i'll just leave you, and have all the fun. Enjoy working!
I always felt bad for Sharpay. She got her musical taken away from her, her talent show she had been waiting for for the whole year, and her scholarship.
Lyrics With JoJo can you like my vlogs please
Lyrics With JoJo they literally screwed her over
Me too
Lyrics With JoJo well, the scholarship isn't that big a deal, right?
evandragonfire I think she wanted to prove that she didn't need her family's money to be successful
I actually thought the friends were the villians...no offense.
No offence taken probably. What are your arguments?
Kotton Kitten watch at 9:37 and so on
I agree!
How about everybody, but sharpay, is the villain
Madeline Simmons,they’re the evil masterminds behind the scenes controlling it all and creating all the drama
Jk mate
Troy really had the nerve to be jealous of Ryan when he hung out with Sharpay the whole time in High school musical 2!? And personally I just found Gabriella annoying. Ryan, Sharpay and Chad personally were my favorite
Ryan is love, Ryan is life.
@@ctcomics8293 end of story
You’re right I agree 100% agree with all this Sharpay isn’t actually the villain in the movies she is the victim she worked so hard for everything she wanted and was held down, delayed opportunities and humiliated by others Troy ruined everything for her and so did Ryan everyone seems to be against her and she just takes it as a kid I always hated her and saw her as the villain but as an adult I saw her as the victim and the hated one and that the protagonists were the real villains
Sharpay deserved so much better yes she’s a bit of a diva and maybe a bit full of herself but she knows what she wants and her dream to become a famous actor is one of her biggest passions and she didn’t try and step on others to climb to the top she climbed herself to the top even if it meant doing things she didn’t want to do ❤️.
Sharpay is a true queen! 😁
summary of this video:
1. temper tantrums over zac efron getting the role
2. ryans stupid hats
3. sharpay is not evil
Willow Gibson lmfao 😂😂😂
I like Ryan's hatz
Jackson Kelley Me too his hats are cool
@@marial7625 we have the same taste
Sharpay is savage and selfish. That is true
Just Imagine Matt being Troy in “High School Musical”
I would be a *LOT* more interesting
I would buy that film
Zach effron: eh i like the actor but he doesn't fit in the role
MatPat: NANI!?!
Next up:
Welcome to Zac Efron theory!
personally, I love Zac Efron as an actor. I think he is great! But Troy is just not the right kinda character for him. Zac can do better than Troy. Come on, we all know that!
No way
Everything you've said so far is plausible. I really wish to be friends with Sharpay for the reasons you mentioned. When it comes to my goals, hard work, compromise, and honesty are all stuff I seek out, so Sharpay is my kind of gal. I wish I could help her with her goals, cause I share goals and work so everybody wins without worrying about gaining nothing in return..
5:16 my dude's rapping
It feels so satisfying that people are finally starting to realize that just because you are rich, talented, a pretty means you are bad. Heck, Sharpay might not even be that talented, she might just be way more hard working than me think at first glance. I mean, she IS super persistance about her dreams, and she might have been practicing 9 hours a day everyday since she was like 5. But noooooooo, because she is a rich girl that just happends to be blond and like pink things, she is obviusly the bad guy.
They could have broken that stereotype but sharpay literally judged Gabriella as soon as she entered the school lmao- she had to be the star of every single show and walked all over her brother
@@Jay-id3wi are you judging Shar-Pei because if you are well then shut up 🤫🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐
@@shwbrt11 *Sharpay
@@shwbrt11 no
@@shwbrt11 Its not judging. Sharpay literally was rude to Gabriella as soon as she showed any interest in the musical like she's the bad guy because she does legitimate bad things lol
Another problem I had with Troy and is that he could barely act. Whenever he was singing with Gabriella he could convey the emotion of love but when he was singing with sharpay he looked like an idiot. Sharpay was able to pretend she was in love with her brother.
Plot twist: "Sweet home Alabama"
Edit: Because of Sharpay
@@garopropiedades what 😳
i mean thats because he was kinda forced to do that and was surprised by the show. seeing that way, sharpay also was bad acting without troy in hsm3
@@garopropiedades excusemewhat
@@Leo-ox1rd but she was caught off guard because that guy wasnt supposed to be there
The one thing that irks me about this theory is that all of Mat’s evidence for Troy being a bad person comes from hsm2, where the whole point of the movie was Troy learning why his actions were unkind. Overall, the behavior of Troy’s friends is worse across the series than his actions in one of the installments. They seem more like the “true villains”.
Well, I don’t know that I believe she is the victim since the whole scholarship thing had an ulterior motive. But I can definitely understand where she’s coming from most of the time in the series. Like in the first movie, suddenly other people (Troy & Gabriella) are taking something she loves away from her. And she has no idea if theatre is something they’ll take seriously or if this is a fluke. And she isn’t always solely the antagonist when Troy was the one to annoy me a majority of the series. Overall, I just don’t think he was a good friend. But it’s strange that he’s seen as the good guy just because he’s the main character.
Troy: I CARE MORE ABOUT WHAt MY FRIENDS THINK OF ME!!
Me: DO U KNOW HOW FRICKEN EXPENSIVE COLLAGE IS ?!?! I’m mean like honeyyyy...
*Edit: Thanks for all the likes! Also stop saying I don’t know how to spell, that was part of the joke -~-*
Jessica Rivera Honestly, that was the most stupid line I’ve ever heard. If someone practically serve me a free college education on a silver platter, I’d totally devour it. If my friends can’t support me for preparing for a better future, then they’re not my friends.
The problem with Troy, he neglected his friends on his own. Didn’t even spare a second to explain why he has to hang out with Sharpay all the time. It wasn’t Sharpay’s fault that he had a fall out with his friends, he was just really a jerk. Not that I sympathise considering what his friends did to him in HSM1...
Jessica Rivera yeah that’s 10k down the drain
Unrelated but *gram* 👏 *mar* 👏
Edit: Ohhh, okay. I see the edit now, and I finally, FINALLY get the joke. My bad!
Because troy is an idiot that doesnt deserve the medals,reward all of that stuff his a moron idiot like brainless and doesnt care for his friend his just making them waiter commanding them to do stuff that he wants troy your F@#$ING SH#T!!!
College* I know because I went hahaha. Also, I assume you weren't comparing yourself to honey. Haha I'm sorry. I'm just being mean... Like honey. Alright...I'm done being a jerk now.
I hate how movies always picture the “rich” person as the “bad” person. It’s just not fair. You can’t judge a person by how much money they have! Her parents probably worked day and night for their money!
Yeah! Rich kids are usually AINT THAT BAD. I hated this movie so much when i watched it that i stopped like almost when it ended. Not even WHEN it ended
Like, her dad seems like a legitimately cool guy in the short clip(s) of him we get. If I'm wrong, sorry. I don't like hsm2 so I havent seen it many times lol
I've met some wealthy people and only once have I actually seen a spoiled rich kid. In fact most rich families I meet go out of their way to make sure they DON'T spoil their kid.
@@neemibronstein303 Me too! Out of all the wealthy kids I have met there was only one spoiled kid and he was 3 years old. They aren't that bad
In real life, rich students are more well-rounded and smarter than poor students.
This is the kind of situation where having the "underdogs" win ISN'T a good thing.
So... if Troy is the villain in HSM, and Matpat wanted to play Troy... then that means 🤔
Matpat confirms as a villain. I guess that explains a LOT of his videos... Someone get Matpat a job at the Villains Pub.
"We are EXACTLY the same!"
*looks at Zac's abs*
"We are MOSTLY the same!
😂
Victoria James yassssss
Thanks, I also watched the intro
Troy would honestly have been a great villain if the story actually treated him like the villain and not the hero.
The heroine is a brash, loud mouthed and bit boastful rich girl but is ultimately a good hearted individual with a good work ethic. The villain is a mild mannered individual but also a greedy and cunning manipulator. This would've made the movie so much better
That makes the movie good to me tbh. It's like in I Am Legend. I don't want to reveal spoilers so watch it yourself.
Great
RIGHT
in another universe, MatPat would've taken the role of a Hollywood actor while Zach Afron gets to be the one who descends into madness because of a franchise named FNaF
Can we talk about how amazing his summary of the movie was? I'm still laughing
omg I always thought that the scene where their "friends" gets Troy to admit he doesn't like Gabriela was pretty messed up. When your friends have someone they like you support them until you have a reason not to, not con your friend into saying the complete opposite of what their feeling.
They said that in a scene. I think it was Chad that said that if music is something that Troy likes, they should be boosting him up not tearing him down.
The “friends” are the most messed up characters definitely
I like how he chooses Gabriela over acting on stage with Sharpay, which is basically his college, income, etc on the line, but he'd leave her like that in an instant over what his friends said. It makes no sense.
That's why I didn't like HSM as a kid. Their friends were so awful it really turned me off
crunchy actually it was one of troys friends, Zeke who said that
I couldn't really place why I didn't like Troy; this is an eye-opener.
All it took was a trailer for me to hate him.
He was a lazily made character. All of them were. That's why Sharpay was meant to be evil but she was good
I still hated him even before this theory.
Same
Yea heck this video actually makes me want to be friends with sharpey
you know the reason sharpay got a solo movie and no one else did,
because she is the only good character
Knowing that Matt's a theatre kid, I REALLY wish that when he said "You think this is all a chip on my shoulder", he sang it like Christian Borle in Legally Blonde: The Musical😭😭
In an alternate universe, Zac Efron just uploaded a Film Theory on how Matthew is the villain of the High School Musical series
LOOOOL
HelixSpectrumGamer does this mean matpat would have a six pack
Six pat they call him
AnIndecisiveWeeb and he would say mat stole his part
@@samuraibear5102 id pay to see that
how is troy valedictorian when i've only seen him in class once, and that was the last day of school
Yeah I hate how on tv the valedictorian is always a main character who not that great at school. Because at my high school to be that you basically had to take all AP classes.
They say that there is an ancient and powerful deal which can be made with weak minded teachers where you can trade your virginity for favors or even marks.
He might've used this ancient forgotten deal to his advantage
Yeah I think Gabriella deserves it more than troy
this reads as if you personally went to high school with troy bolton
He wasn’t Gabrielle was. They just let him give a speech for unknown reasons.
One day I binged all of the movies for the first time and the whole time i was screaming because of Ryan’s fedora that 𝘯𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 matched his outfits 😭
It’s funny how when you take an objective look at a story the villain can often be the hero.