The fact that the video's aspect ratio is 4:3 and the quality only can go up to 480p make this video feel more authentic because if Doctor Who still went on during the Wilderness Years, the TV quality would have been like that in the late '90 and early 2000s! A great, albeit unintended touch Stuart!
God Bless you for this video. As a small child I first encountered Doctor Who on SciFi channel ("Are you My Mummy?") and I went to UA-cam looking up Doctor Who stuff and this was what I found. While it's never been in the forefront of my nerdy interest, this amazing fan edit always stuck with me. So glad I could find it when so many FMVs from this era are lost!
I overlaid the image of a Dalek onto the clip of 'Arc Of Inifinity' to cover over Peter Davison, who is actually running for cover at the end of the corridor. It's only a static photo of a Dalek, which I moved frame-by-frame in adobe photoshop to give the illusion it is gliding out of view.
I read a comment from a fan not long ago that the Time War is a story that should never be told because it would never live up to anyone's expectations. I think there's truth to that. However, what I have seen here is TRULY inspiring. You excel in your form of expression, and inasmuch as I excel in mine, I hope to write this story as well as you've helped me to visualize it. THANK you!
I am still disappointed that we didn't get something like this for the Doctor Who movie. Just think how many more episodes we could have gotten if this was Paul McGann's version of the Doctor Who movie. Shame he only got a half assed story that is largely forgotten and not well received. McGann deserved better for the on screen product. If Eccleston stuck around, he easily would have been a top 5 doctor. Same with McGann if he was given a proper series.
***** I loved this part: "You're a Time Lord?! Get away from me!" ~backs away~ ~The Doctor is exasperated~ "Look on the bright side, at least I'm not a Dalek!"
howdareyou66 I agree Moffat pretty much screwed up the 50th/NotD, but it did have it's moments. He seriously needs to get his head out of his ass sometimes though, there are so many plot holes and open endings!
A masterpiece of the highest order, Mr. H. I thought your previous efforts were un-top-able, but here you've gone and outdone yourself again! Thank you!
I will say that I still kind of prefer this than what we actually got in The Day of the Doctor. It feels more like a War to me & I kind of like the simplicity of The 8th Doctor losing his life to a simple Dalek blast
I firmly agree. Check out my 8th Doctor stopmotion series on my channel. It’s more akin to this, the way I learned of the time war as a kid was thru this video lol
I have to say, UA-cam is a wonderful thing. I've just spent a little while investigating the "insight" function which analysies the video views for this trailer, and I was pleasantly shocked to see visitors from as far afield as Peru, South Korea, Lithuania and Macedonia have all passed by this video. Everyone's welcome, whichever part of the planet you come from. I just wanted to say hello and let you know how pleased I am that my work is so global :)
There's already a rather wonderful black & white video called "A prelude to Totter's Lane" out there on the internet (I picked up a copy in 2006) which does exactly what you describe. I have no idea who created it though and I don't think it's on UA-cam. I'd feel like I was ripping it off if I tried to make my own version.
Wow! Brilliantly done! You've taken scenes and music and dialogue from all over and placed it together so that it told a coherent and exciting and sad but wonderful story. Awesome. VERY well done!
Stuart, this is one of the very best videos I've had the pleasure of seeing on UA-cam and, certainly, one of your finest; thank you -very much- for your efforts! I mean, really, you offer this -for free- to share with the world! Talk about generosity! THANK YOU! What a fine gift for your fellow Doctor Who fans!
I thought your first one was good, but you have really outdone yourself. That was absolutely fantastic. I love how you messed McGann and Eccelston and even showed a regeneration between the two, and the change between TARDIS styles. I *loved* it so much! I gave me chills. Can't wait for more!
OMG that was EPIC!!! AWESOME!!!! I remember your original Time War video years ago. Nice to see a revamp with all the newer appearances to work with! Your videos/tributes always ROCK!
I would pay SO MUCH money to get this made into a movie! This really needs to happen, it would be beyond epic! (This, and I would really like to see a flash back episode to the Doctor's days at the academy) This video goes beyond spectacular, I actually forgot that it was fan made, to the point in which I was severely disappointed when I remembered it was only 5 minutes!
The ULTIMATE version of your masterpiece. You pull off the impossible, and that's make the next Time War trailer even more perfect than the last one. This is pure artistry.
It's best when it opens with the "Time Lords of Gallifrey led a life of peace, and ordered calm..." speech. Puts it in perspective for those who might never have heard of/watched Doctor Who.
This is the one thing that confuses me about the War Doctor, the idea behind him is that his acts were so terrible that the Doctor disowned him but the Doctor has already admitted to wiping out both races. If Hurt was supposed to be so secret why admit to his actions multiple times?
I originally assumed that the 50th anniversary episode would just give more detail on what drove The Doctor's actions, rather than undo it. I took the setup to mean that the Doctor destroying Gallifrey was the first and only Doctor-like thing this incarnation did - to end the Time War and save the Universe - and thus the only action that the others were willing to admit to. But the War Doctor would be shown as a bloodthirsty and warmongering incarnation who would have to be lead back to the light by his future selves. So the later Doctors disowned the War Doctor's actions except his very last. Unfortunately, that incredibly obvious approach wasn't the one Moffat went for.
Why is everyone here hating on Moffat for the War Doctor? If Eccelstone had agreed to be part of the 50th, there would be No War doctor. It would have been Eccelston in that role. But because he doesn't want anything to do with the series any more, Moffat had to rewrite it. With no Nine, a hidden regeneration was the only way to actually show the Time War. That's hardly Moffat's fault.
moon_ giggler The 50th Aniversary was always going to be about the Time War. And with Ecclestone refusing to take part, a "Hidden Doctor" was the sensible idea. I thought Hurt was great as The Doctor!
Eh, I prefer this version to the updated one - I didn't really care for Moffat's idea of how the Time War really ended. I mean, does anyone besides the enemy really die in Doctor Who anymore? Amy and Rory were sent back, River's come back like three or four times now, and all the Time Lords are perfectly alright? It's kind of annoying. Anyway though, rant over haha. Love your videos and all of course, keep up the awesome work.
This was so well done. You did a great job, considering you had such little footage of 8 and 9 to work with. I also like how you made a regeneration scene for 8 to 9.
What an excellent way to celebrate Dr. Who's 45th Birthday, "FANTASTIC!" to quote my favorite Doc. I especially liked your inclusion of some of the audio drama clips, Terror Firma happens to be my favorite, 10000/10000. This is better than the other two (which were brilliant) put together!
First, let me say that I am amazed at the talented you possess. Bravo!!! I think this should be required viewing prior to the new show. Very well done!!!
Tom's opening narration is from 'The Deadly Assassin', the rest of his narration is from 'State of Decay', as others have correctly identified. Neither is currently available on DVD though :(
so again, your ideas are the best i'v heard recently...and you have also awnsered a question which burned me for a long time: I knew the Daleks were great enemy's in the classic series but they never convinced me as equals of the Time Lords. So i wondered how the Daleks were suddenly able over-throw Galifrey's forces where even The Sontarans the universes greatest warriors only succeded to seige it one single day. Offcourse the awnser is, by turning all there defeats into victorys'... fantastic!
That was actually really good. You didn't do what you couldn't and made quite the very most of what you could and ended up with something amazing. Well done sir!!
@BabelColour dude... seriously? thats BRILLIANT!! usually there is something of a lag or a difference in pitch... i had to re- listen several times just to realise it WASNT all one spoken sentance... great job mate
all i can say is wow. if ever another film was to be made...and not let the americans get there hands on it then this has set out how perfect the story would be. Its amazing how well u have edited this there are times i think they were clips from a real episode rather thne bits fomr here and there. well done
Brilliant, like all your videos. Clearly a penchant for being able to put details together with insurmountable reserves of patience to put these videos together (no doubt requiring both time and money for the necessary software and hardware).
This could easily just be another tribute, but it isn't! The editing, and the additional effects make this almost like the BBC themselves made it. For that, I thank you!
I love the way you used Four's dialogue in The Deadly Assassin at the beginning, because I always thought that sounded like he was describing the Time War!
This video left me breathless AND speechless... well, at least for a few moments after it ended. :-p I'm envious of your editing skills! Once again, this was amazing!! ~DJ
Thank you 13thDoctor. Ironically, the effect that took the longest to do is the one I suspect nobody will ever even notice - there's one shot of Mr Eccleston in which I digitally painted out Captain Jack. That was a real pig to do.
It seems on some computer setups the video plays in stereo and Tom's narration is only on the right-siie track, so he can't be heard in the left. Though if he breaks up on your speaker, I suspect the problem's with your hardware as he plays fine on my speaker.
When I first read your post, I initially thought it was sarcasm due to the high volume, and then I wondered whether there's a problem listening to it in stereo? It certainly plays audibly all the way through when I watch it myself.
@exitwest you have a good point !!!! This definitely could be the best thing since the DS9 & BB5 era shows !!! But is there info if the Eighth and Ninth fought in the war ?
Oh my GOSH! You just..you just totally blew me away! f*cking BRILLIENT!! This should win an award cause it's incredible! if only this was an actual film. cause i'll be the first in line to watch it. :D
Had a loose wire in my audio cable, sound is fine for me after replacing it. How many times has The Doctor completely wiped out the Daleks now? Seems he (or a companion) does it once a season, with at most 4 survivors out of millions. Plus a bigger one at the end of the Time War, before the new series 1 with the Ninth Doctor.
The fact that the video's aspect ratio is 4:3 and the quality only can go up to 480p make this video feel more authentic because if Doctor Who still went on during the Wilderness Years, the TV quality would have been like that in the late '90 and early 2000s!
A great, albeit unintended touch Stuart!
This video was what I genuinley thought the time war was back when I first started watching the show! Didn’t realise it was fan made
God Bless you for this video. As a small child I first encountered Doctor Who on SciFi channel ("Are you My Mummy?") and I went to UA-cam looking up Doctor Who stuff and this was what I found. While it's never been in the forefront of my nerdy interest, this amazing fan edit always stuck with me. So glad I could find it when so many FMVs from this era are lost!
Terrifying that this video was such an iconic part of my childhood and now it's 12 years old
LMAO, i was 9 when this video came out! Im now 21 haha... Where does the time go!?
I overlaid the image of a Dalek onto the clip of 'Arc Of Inifinity' to cover over Peter Davison, who is actually running for cover at the end of the corridor. It's only a static photo of a Dalek, which I moved frame-by-frame in adobe photoshop to give the illusion it is gliding out of view.
I read a comment from a fan not long ago that the Time War is a story that should never be told because it would never live up to anyone's expectations. I think there's truth to that. However, what I have seen here is TRULY inspiring. You excel in your form of expression, and inasmuch as I excel in mine, I hope to write this story as well as you've helped me to visualize it. THANK you!
I am still disappointed that we didn't get something like this for the Doctor Who movie. Just think how many more episodes we could have gotten if this was Paul McGann's version of the Doctor Who movie. Shame he only got a half assed story that is largely forgotten and not well received. McGann deserved better for the on screen product.
If Eccleston stuck around, he easily would have been a top 5 doctor. Same with McGann if he was given a proper series.
Eccleston and McGann couldve and should've been far bigger than Tennant and Smith
@@blackham7 in my opinion every doctor is amazing in their own way you cant just put one above the other.
I'm so glad that Paul McGann returned in The Night of The Doctor.
*****
I loved this part:
"You're a Time Lord?! Get away from me!"
~backs away~
~The Doctor is exasperated~
"Look on the bright side, at least I'm not a Dalek!"
howdareyou66 I agree Moffat pretty much screwed up the 50th/NotD, but it did have it's moments. He seriously needs to get his head out of his ass sometimes though, there are so many plot holes and open endings!
cmsahe. Bring back Paul McCann
A masterpiece of the highest order, Mr. H. I thought your previous efforts were un-top-able, but here you've gone and outdone yourself again! Thank you!
Watched this one over and over for a few days. I'm amazed you created this!
For me, this video is the canon version of the Time War.
I won't say it's a bad video but I do say you have bad taste
Even though this video has been superseded I still enjoy watching it. It was very imaginative.
I've heard people say that the Time War is so epic that it could never be shown on screen. But you've come PRETTY DAMN CLOSE. Absolutely beautiful.
I will say that I still kind of prefer this than what we actually got in The Day of the Doctor. It feels more like a War to me & I kind of like the simplicity of The 8th Doctor losing his life to a simple Dalek blast
Will I firmly disagree
I firmly agree. Check out my 8th Doctor stopmotion series on my channel. It’s more akin to this, the way I learned of the time war as a kid was thru this video lol
By far the best Time War tribute
I have to say, UA-cam is a wonderful thing. I've just spent a little while investigating the "insight" function which analysies the video views for this trailer, and I was pleasantly shocked to see visitors from as far afield as Peru, South Korea, Lithuania and Macedonia have all passed by this video. Everyone's welcome, whichever part of the planet you come from. I just wanted to say hello and let you know how pleased I am that my work is so global :)
There's already a rather wonderful black & white video called "A prelude to Totter's Lane" out there on the internet (I picked up a copy in 2006) which does exactly what you describe. I have no idea who created it though and I don't think it's on UA-cam. I'd feel like I was ripping it off if I tried to make my own version.
How you made this regeneration effect ?
Wow! Brilliantly done! You've taken scenes and music and dialogue from all over and placed it together so that it told a coherent and exciting and sad but wonderful story. Awesome. VERY well done!
Stuart, this is one of the very best videos I've had the pleasure of seeing on UA-cam and, certainly, one of your finest; thank you -very much- for your efforts! I mean, really, you offer this -for free- to share with the world! Talk about generosity! THANK YOU! What a fine gift for your fellow Doctor Who fans!
I thought your first one was good, but you have really outdone yourself. That was absolutely fantastic. I love how you messed McGann and Eccelston and even showed a regeneration between the two, and the change between TARDIS styles.
I *loved* it so much! I gave me chills. Can't wait for more!
Nov. 25, 2008? Wow, this video was before Matt Smith had even been notified to be playing the 11th Doctor!
Yes it was.
OMG that was EPIC!!! AWESOME!!!!
I remember your original Time War video years ago. Nice to see a revamp with all the newer appearances to work with!
Your videos/tributes always ROCK!
The update is in progress!
Good to know, looking forward to it :D
Very Good video, I recognise most of the doctor who quotes and clips, was the two ships crashing star ship troopers?
+Jackal Muldipulus CABAL From Starship Troopers
+MrPeterpiper1969 It's during the 1st attack on Klendathu
Absolutely amazing, a brilliant improvement and development on the last two.
Great use of the Big Finish audios.
I love how dalek sec's eye moves in sync while he is talking xD
I would pay SO MUCH money to get this made into a movie! This really needs to happen, it would be beyond epic! (This, and I would really like to see a flash back episode to the Doctor's days at the academy)
This video goes beyond spectacular, I actually forgot that it was fan made, to the point in which I was severely disappointed when I remembered it was only 5 minutes!
This is still canon to me. Screw Moffat's half-assery!
Don't update it, mate. This is perfection
He just released a video featuring John Hurt's War Doctor.
GRRR. Damn you Steven Moffat! Damn you to Shada!!!
You know moffat only modified it because Eccleston didn't want part in the 50th anniversary
I also know he's more obsessed with preserving his legacy to where he forgets that Doctor Who isn't one man's vision; this also appies to the Time War
The ULTIMATE version of your masterpiece. You pull off the impossible, and that's make the next Time War trailer even more perfect than the last one. This is pure artistry.
I still like this video despite developments on the official show.
It's best when it opens with the "Time Lords of Gallifrey led a life of peace, and ordered calm..." speech. Puts it in perspective for those who might never have heard of/watched Doctor Who.
This is the one thing that confuses me about the War Doctor, the idea behind him is that his acts were so terrible that the Doctor disowned him but the Doctor has already admitted to wiping out both races. If Hurt was supposed to be so secret why admit to his actions multiple times?
He also lied to Martha about gallifrey until episode three of season three
I originally assumed that the 50th anniversary episode would just give more detail on what drove The Doctor's actions, rather than undo it. I took the setup to mean that the Doctor destroying Gallifrey was the first and only Doctor-like thing this incarnation did - to end the Time War and save the Universe - and thus the only action that the others were willing to admit to. But the War Doctor would be shown as a bloodthirsty and warmongering incarnation who would have to be lead back to the light by his future selves. So the later Doctors disowned the War Doctor's actions except his very last. Unfortunately, that incredibly obvious approach wasn't the one Moffat went for.
FANTASTIC! This is the pure magic of film editing to perfection.
Why is everyone here hating on Moffat for the War Doctor?
If Eccelstone had agreed to be part of the 50th, there would be No War doctor. It would have been Eccelston in that role.
But because he doesn't want anything to do with the series any more, Moffat had to rewrite it. With no Nine, a hidden regeneration was the only way to actually show the Time War.
That's hardly Moffat's fault.
Haradion Drogon That's completely Moffat's fault. He wrote the shitting script.
moon_ giggler
The 50th Aniversary was always going to be about the Time War.
And with Ecclestone refusing to take part, a "Hidden Doctor" was the sensible idea.
I thought Hurt was great as The Doctor!
*cough cough* Paul McGann" *cough cough*
moon_ giggler
Perhapes...
But can you really imagine the 8th Doctor commit genocide?
Its doesn't mash for me.
+Haradion Drogon He already did in The BBC Books
doesn't matter how many times I watch this, it still raises the hackles- genius!
This might even be better than the 50th anniversary itself!
If Christopher Eccestion came back.
The Doctor really would have been a true monster
This was canon in my mind as a kid
You should just leave this, it doesn't need an update. Everything in here is a hell of a lot better than all the Moffat/War Doctor crap.
I saw this first when I was 8 years old, and watched it 5 to 6 times, first time since then that I've come back and it still looks amazing!
Eh, I prefer this version to the updated one - I didn't really care for Moffat's idea of how the Time War really ended. I mean, does anyone besides the enemy really die in Doctor Who anymore? Amy and Rory were sent back, River's come back like three or four times now, and all the Time Lords are perfectly alright? It's kind of annoying.
Anyway though, rant over haha. Love your videos and all of course, keep up the awesome work.
moffat does have a problem with death, Clara should have died
That was fantastic, obviously a lot of work and interesting to think about. Thank you.
This is how it should have been
Nope should have been exactly how it is now, because Having it be a doctor who either existed before the war or survived it. Just makes it seem small
Well, I'm delighted it's caused such a positive reaction in you, SoulRythm. Thank you
Incredible, you clearly have a huge passion for the show and this video was a labour of love.
Absoulutly aamazing.All your videos are just simply amazing!This and your triibute to Lis Sladen are just absolutly amazing!
I never grow tired of watching this. Thanks again, old man ;-)
This was so well done. You did a great job, considering you had such little footage of 8 and 9 to work with. I also like how you made a regeneration scene for 8 to 9.
What an excellent way to celebrate Dr. Who's 45th Birthday, "FANTASTIC!" to quote my favorite Doc. I especially liked your inclusion of some of the audio drama clips, Terror Firma happens to be my favorite, 10000/10000. This is better than the other two (which were brilliant) put together!
First, let me say that I am amazed at the talented you possess. Bravo!!! I think this should be required viewing prior to the new show. Very well done!!!
Flipping heck. That took my breath away! I loved the Tardis console regeneration!
I really want to see the whole film now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tom's opening narration is from 'The Deadly Assassin', the rest of his narration is from 'State of Decay', as others have correctly identified. Neither is currently available on DVD though :(
@gmodman1701 - the audio snippet was from 'Remembrance of the Daleks' and the video snippet was from 'Starship Troopers'.
This was incredible when I saw it for the first time as a kid, as this is what I imagined what happened at that time
Summing it all up in under 6 minutes an epic piece of work!!
so again, your ideas are the best i'v heard recently...and you have also awnsered a question which burned me for a long time: I knew the Daleks were great enemy's in the classic series but they never convinced me as equals of the Time Lords. So i wondered how the Daleks were suddenly able over-throw Galifrey's forces where even The Sontarans the universes greatest warriors only succeded to seige it one single day. Offcourse the awnser is, by turning all there defeats into victorys'... fantastic!
That was actually really good. You didn't do what you couldn't and made quite the very most of what you could and ended up with something amazing.
Well done sir!!
@BabelColour dude... seriously? thats BRILLIANT!! usually there is something of a lag or a difference in pitch... i had to re- listen several times just to realise it WASNT all one spoken sentance... great job mate
A thing of beauty...
...my hat is off to you Sir. Outstanding.
Oh my God. This is AMAZING! I am in awe of your talent.
that was so beautiful--I hope this stays around for a long time!
all i can say is wow. if ever another film was to be made...and not let the americans get there hands on it then this has set out how perfect the story would be. Its amazing how well u have edited this there are times i think they were clips from a real episode rather thne bits fomr here and there. well done
Bablecolour that was fantastic truly a work of art
my applause
Really intelligently put together from so many sources. Very good work.
AMAZING I LOVE THIS its so well done the graphics too the way you merged so much of DW is absolutly amazing
Haven't seen this in ages nostalgia
wow! I have no words to discribe it! magnifisent!! you've done a really great job! and again, it's brilliant!
This is brilliant! This is probably one of your best videos ever!
Once again, superb editing in this. Definitely a keeper for me!
Brilliant, like all your videos. Clearly a penchant for being able to put details together with insurmountable reserves of patience to put these videos together (no doubt requiring both time and money for the necessary software and hardware).
Amazing work as always, Babel! Five stars without a single question!
As far as I'm concerned, this is cannon. You are absolutely brilliant at making videos and should feel very proud.
It's fantastic.
I love this trailer. I honestly think it's better than anything they could possibly give us at this point.
This could easily just be another tribute, but it isn't! The editing, and the additional effects make this almost like the BBC themselves made it. For that, I thank you!
ironic that this is 10x better than what we got
THIS IS AMAZING.
I haven't been able to find any Time War video on youtube nearly as cool as this.
Wow. This was absolutely astonishing - beautifully done.
Aah, pure fannish enjoyment. Once again your Time War trailer is the very definition of the word Epic.
It's the best I've ever seen. Masterfully done.
Of all the Doctor Who Time War Music Videos that i've seen, this is by far the greatest.
I love the way you used Four's dialogue in The Deadly Assassin at the beginning, because I always thought that sounded like he was describing the Time War!
This video left me breathless AND speechless... well, at least for a few moments after it ended. :-p I'm envious of your editing skills! Once again, this was amazing!! ~DJ
Excellent as ever - the Paul McGann sections left me wondering just what a McGann TV series would have been like.
Thank you 13thDoctor. Ironically, the effect that took the longest to do is the one I suspect nobody will ever even notice - there's one shot of Mr Eccleston in which I digitally painted out Captain Jack. That was a real pig to do.
It seems on some computer setups the video plays in stereo and Tom's narration is only on the right-siie track, so he can't be heard in the left. Though if he breaks up on your speaker, I suspect the problem's with your hardware as he plays fine on my speaker.
WOW WOW WOW! That was even better than your first version of Time War! BRILLIANT!
You are not alone. 4 words that sent a chill up the Doctors spine
When I first read your post, I initially thought it was sarcasm due to the high volume, and then I wondered whether there's a problem listening to it in stereo? It certainly plays audibly all the way through when I watch it myself.
I really like the way you cleverly edited the 8th to 9th Doctor's transformation.
Each TimeWar trailer you've done hase been great, but the're nothing compared to this, Well done, you should be proud!
that was beautiful. and it was really good background info for anyone who hasn't seen the classic series and the movie
Stuart delivers again. Awesome.
This is the best Who fanvid on the internet. I can't wait to see it updated with Rassilon from the End of Time
This was amazing. I found myself crying a bit, close to the end.
@exitwest you have a good point !!!! This definitely could be the best thing since the DS9 & BB5 era shows !!! But is there info if the Eighth and Ninth fought in the war ?
Absolutely outstanding. So much content and excellent editing.
Now that was a good piece of work there. Unlike many others, you managed to do it justice!
The Dalek at 1:50 is so quiet I can't understand him. Same at 3:37ish.
Definitely a superior version, you've outdone yourself yet again. Bravo!
words cannot describe how good this was
Oh my GOSH! You just..you just totally blew me away! f*cking BRILLIENT!! This should win an award cause it's incredible!
if only this was an actual film. cause i'll be the first in line to watch it. :D
Had a loose wire in my audio cable, sound is fine for me after replacing it.
How many times has The Doctor completely wiped out the Daleks now? Seems he (or a companion) does it once a season, with at most 4 survivors out of millions. Plus a bigger one at the end of the Time War, before the new series 1 with the Ninth Doctor.
I so want you to make a full version of this - it's simply brilliant :-)