The funny thing about cults is that they don’t tell you they’re a cult upfront. I was part of that group in 1994 to 1995 for a few months. Thank God that He got me out!
Just recently came across your channel. Got an eviction notice and at 48 years old going to live in my car. Holy moly. My father was a church of Christ preacher. Thank God, he saved me from that cult. Subscribed!!
Yes, sista. It’s important to remember that Jesus wasn’t the biggest fan of religion. He wants relationship and community for us because we have differing gifts and are stronger when we share and care. But oh, the many times he handed it to the religious leaders….. I may worship at a church but I follow Jesus, not religion. I can’t wait for Part 2! (P.s.,It took me a bunch of years to get past my church wounds, and I’m grateful that I finally overcame!)
Grandpa was only partially right. There is no such thing as a relationship with God apart from God's people. Whether that is ICOC is ultimately up to God but we can't discount that God has created for himself a people, a nation, a race, a royal priesthood not a collection of random individuals. @@travelsnacks
Hi Allison, I was in the London Church of Christ in 1991 (aged 19). I was only in it for about 6 months, so didn't have the length of time or experience of getting married and having a family inside the ICOC. But it is amazing listening to your account and how many memories it jogs for me. I'm also really heartened to hear that you still love God and follow Jesus, and that this experience hasn't caused you to blame him or turn your back on him. I haven't listened to your two follow-up videos yet, but I look forward to doing so.
Thank goodness you got out! From dealing with a Domestic Violence caseload for years, the isolation tactics are case book for DV abusers. Divide and conquer and prevent victims from hearing the truth at all costs. Constantly breakdown emotionally for control.
There’s no shame in making mistakes when you’re vulnerable - that belongs to the people who take advantage. Describing how you were lulled into it will help others recognise it when they or their loved ones experience the same thing. And good on you for naming names! These places need to be exposed! ❤
I can't say that I was an ex member of ICOC but they tried recruiting me. I was out within about two months. I was waaaaaaaaaay too resistant for them to suck me into their cult. Only then I didn't know that it was a cult!!
I began my walk in the regular Church of Christ (not yours, thank goodness) -- this experience really messed with my relationship with God, never feeling secure in my salvation, always afraid i wasn't saved. I left that church and began attending Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa where i grew and thrived under Pastor Chuck Smith for 4 years. Even though i grew as a Christian, that first super legalistic experience still affects my walk today. Your testimony is incredible, Allison, so much it is similar to my own, i can't wait for your next video. I, too, was told my family wasn't saved because they weren't in the "the one true church." Did your church have musical instruments, in mine they weren't allowed. That tithe requirement, wow! The sheep beater atmosphere sounds toxic. Thanks for sharing, i would have never guessed this about you.
Ah yes this same organization recruited myself and my roommate in college. We fell in hook line and sinker and we even went on a weekend retreat with them. Luckily my boyfriend at the time did some research and found out they were a “cult”. My roommate and I immediately cut them off. Thank God!
Thank goodness you got out. Thank you for giving your testimony. My sister was recruited when she was younger. She was a college graduate and just like you they love bombed her! She too had to give account of all her sins in front of the congregation. My mother, a devout Christian, felt something was definitely off and she literally went into that place and rescued my sister from their demonic control over her. My mom is the bravest person and you don't want to mess with her children! Who knows where they could have taken my sister if my mom hadn't of intervened.
I lost my best friend to the ICOC. It happened a decade ago, but still sucks. He is the type to always need the validation of others, so the love bombing really got him.
@@Lotterywinnerify Okay, so it is very common the members cut off family, friends, or any form of support system both directly and indirectly unless your “Sharp”. Indirectly because the church keeps you so busy and directly because the church tells you to distance yourself from relatives, friends, and anybody they feel that can or is pulling you away from the church. And if you don’t align either directly or indirectly you are talked to.
@@Hello_gorgeous1 Yes this can happen. Sometimes such actions are justified. Though I agree cutting off family and friends without really strong cause is wrong and should not be encouraged. And, this has not been my experience in the ICOC.
Thanks for sharing. I was getting towards the end of the Bible studies for the same church, until i got fed up with their manipulation. They wanted me to attend to every meeting and telling how their church is the only church. That didn’t sit well with me and i started doing some research about that church. I will never go back, but i will continue my path with Jesus.
I'm glad I got out too. I went to a meeting and they told us people might tell you this is a cult, but it's not a cult! I went back home to the college dorm and messaged everyone else who was at an earlier point from me in their Bible studies about that and said I think it's a cult. Later I remembered that the one girl I messaged was actually the sister of one of the church leader guys. They all shunned me after that except for one other girl who left their church with me who became my best friend.
Allison I am so sorry you have gone through this. You are in my prayers sweetie. This sounds like LDS (mormons), Scientology and so many other cults out there.
Wow! I am so sorry to hear that this happened to you at such a young age and for so long. This sounds very similar to Scientology - I have followed Leah Remini’s story. I am eager to hear more details about your experience and how you and your family were able to leave. Thank you for sharing this very personal story ❤️
I've watched almost all of the Scientology shows and it is fairly similar. It's really wild how deep you can get into an organization before you're like.... wait, what the heck!
You were taken advantage of and manipulated. You were very young and vulnerable. Many actors in Hollywood were also taken in by Scientology. They use religion to scheme people out of their money and freedom.
Something happened to my comment, so I will re-type. This is an amazing video that honors Christ and compares true Christianity (which is healthy...falling in love with Jesus and following Him) to a toxic cult. You are really helping people with videos like this and I admire you. LOVE IT! Looking forward to your next video. Would love you to keep these types of videos rolling. Reminds me of Leah Reminy's exposure of the Church of Scientology. Go girl!
Yikes! I wasn't in a cult but we were in a church for years and our pastor retired and a new pastor came in. It got scary after that and we were deeply hurt there. We ended up pretty much being forced out. Thankfully we had a strong foundation in the Lord and didn't give up on God, but it sure takes a while to heal from something like that and trust people again. Looking forward to hearing the rest of your story. ❤
Thank you for sharing this very important story. God has a plan for all of us, and your story will help others who are in the same situation. Really enjoying your new content 🙏
Wow, Allison, I had no idea and I've been following you for years! My sister is a Jehovah's Witness and it has been a great sadness to my family. It's driven a big wedge between us. So sad.
The problem is the people in a church community, they make a faith ugly with their own believes en rules. As i child i always felt a big aversion to it.. couldn't understand why until now 30 years i lost my boyfriend to a cult, the pain and grieve is. Unbearable woooow! In time we learn how to live with it, but we always will be left behind with a very deep intense wound. 🥹😓
I was in the ICOC in the mid 90s after a bad breakup. The love bombing got me. It's a long story but I eventually saw them as a cult and ran away. Multiple disciples kept trying to get me back. Crazy times.
Allison, You are going to reach so many people for Jesus. I believe it with all my heart, because you are not doing this for Allison. You are following the Lord’s leading. It shows! To God be the Glory. Love, big hugs & prayers from Oklahoma!
Oh my gosh. This is sooo interesting. I can't wait until the next edition. You should write a book. You are helping a lot of folks here. Thank you for sharing this.
I can so relate to a lot of what you’re talking about. I was around 15 yrs old when my parents got involved in a discipleship type church, it all started fine but became more controlling. I was young but I remember my family was assigned a “Shepherd “ and everything needed to go through this person. I remember a friend in church said my dad was in rebellion because he resisted this teaching. It wasn’t to soon after that my family left, I remember my parents saying the church was a cult. I had another experience with a church when I was 16 yrs old that did not allow you to wear pants, makeup or cut your hair. They did not want you to associate with the world. I’m sharing these experiences because I totally agree with you about not blaming God. People are not perfect and will disappoint you even in the church but God will NEVER disappoint you. Jesus is the way, the truth and the Life.
My ex-husband had just left a cult when I met him. Followers would continue to come to his business and call him to try to get him back. Even though he didn't go to the church anymore, he would gaslight me and try to shame me with this cult mentality during our entire marriage.
We went through all these studies, wrote the sin list, cross study, and had all the experiences you describe. It all just got all too personal. I have some still very good friends from the remnants of that church as it got disbanded. Interesting time.
I can relate to this SO much. I also joined when I was young (18). I wanted to get married and have babies in the church young but there weren’t many men in my sector. I’m SO glad I didn’t get married in it. I have several livestreams on my channel about it. I even interviewed 2 people from the LA church. New sub here.
Thank you for sharing! Makes me remember a time when I was taken advantage of at a very vulnerable time in my life. Bless you on your journey and much love to your channel ❤❤❤
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I think this kind of thing happens to more people than everyone realizes. I myself had an experience with one. They know how to pick their “victims “. They prey on people who are vulnerable in some way then before you know it you are in way over your head. I really look forward to hearing more about your story. I’ve not heard of this “church “ before so it’s very interesting.
I joined the church in 1997 when I was 22. I also had religion in my background, and I wanted to really know what it was to love and serve God. The internet wasn't was it is now so it wasn't as easy to research things like it is now. I did have a lot of good experiences in the church because I did have amazing friends that I miss, but they stole my 20s from me and I failed all my college classes because they guilted and manipulate me to commit every waking minute to this church. They always assured me that God would bless my sacrifice. I did meet my husband there, and we are still married. I stayed in the church for about 12 years, and I left 14 years ago. I did try to get restored at one point, but it didn't work out. We miss our friends, but we don't miss our lives being controlled. I still talk to people in the church, and they never try to convince me to come back, and I never try to convince them to leave. They are people I still love and feel close to, but they know that I will never return to that church. Right now, I live somewhere where no one knows me, and sometimes I'm tempted to go to a local ICOC branch and pretend I want to learn about the church. I would tell them that I'm really struggling financially and need money for food and rent, so they would give me momey and I could at least recover a fraction of the money they manipulated me to give them
Wow. This sounds like an extreme version of the Church of Christ that I belonged to for 2 years. I left because I knew they were off base and I couldn't grow there. Sorry you experienced this. Glad you are free.
Thank you for sharing this, Allison. I had a similar experience, but they weren't quite as forceful. Still a cult, though because they did not teach the Bible. God called me out and I believe He called you out as well.
Thank you so much for sharing this with us Allison. I know it must not be easy. Your very brave, strong and resilient (and talented!). Thank God for you being able to see what was going on and get your family out of it. I personally know (that’s a whole long story) that these cults prey upon younger, more impressionable people and those who might be older but are in fragile states/life transitions, needing love or support, direction, guidance, seeking answers etc. So that covers basically ALL of us! People tend to think they wouldn’t “fall for such a thing”, but they are just unaware how these things work in real-life settings. I’m hoping there was no physical or s3xu@1 abu$e in this one. I know that many do, in all different ways, I won’t go into here. Looking forward to part 2. I FULLY UNDERSTAND AND SUPPORT YOU in this endeavor! Thanks so much for “pioneering” and shining your light! God bless you amazing woman of God!!!
Thank you! For me there weren't any physical abuses but just recently it's come out that there was seggual abuse happening in some of the churches and there is now a lawsuit! I pray for those who had to endure that on top of the mental and spiritual abuse. Thank you for your kind comment. Blessings to you!
I am so glad you saw the light so to speak. I am glad you are out of there and getting with what I assume is a. Inch better life. I am anxious for the next video to explain more.
Thank you for sharing with us. I’m sorry that happened to you but I’m a firm believer that all things work together for good, so I’m sure you learned much and grew from the experience. God bless you. ❤️
My daughter got convinced into going to the same organization (Disciples of Christ) while a sophomore in college, every thing that she experienced was very, vey similar (showering you with love immediately, writing your sin list, etc.) thankfully, I research the ICOC and sounded strange some of the things she was telling me about and eventually I told her she needs to leave that church because I didn’t feel comfortable with it. She was so angry with me and thought I was just such a hateful person but after leaving the church, she came to the realization that it was a cult.
I went to a very similar church. It was SLIGHTLY less excessive. Both ICOC and the church I was in were inspired by something called the Shepherding Movement. The thing that contributes the most to the toxicity is the fact that there are people who are very type A and they thrive on the social status that succeeding in the church gives them and they like being able to flex on other people with their "spirituality." And since those people really like the church, the church can point at them and say "these people made it work, so if you don't think this place is healthy then the problem must be you."
I have always been of the opinion that the way to know if a church ⛪️ is a solid biblical church is to self study and pray seeking God’s answers. If there’s any contradiction, it’s time to RUN! So sorry we didn’t meet back then, I was living in Orange County diligently studying the Bible myself. My then wife was not a believer in Christ, I pray she now is but I doubt it. All you and I went through was undoubtedly God’s plan and we are better off now because of it even if it doesn’t make sense to us then or now. I hope to meet you in person someday, but at least I know that we will eventually meet in the eternal Heaven living with Jesus. Amen. Have a wonderful week my dear sister in Christ and keep on preaching His word, our precious Holy Bible ✝️
I ended up in an Illuminati cult. After I left church cult. And my family narcissistic cult. There is no end to it unless you look inside yourself. I understand God, I pray every day to my ancestor s and I feel more connected to those I know by name. My passed away loved ones. They live through me and pass on their Wisdom on to me, but only if I ask for it. Amen
Allison, that's crazy what happened to you! It's unfortunate how you were treated at that "church." You're such a good storyteller and I'm curious to hear what else happened. P.S. Been praying for you! 💜
Hey look, I’m not even all the artistic but their music was 🔥 😂. I still remember some of the music fondly including that Upside Down musical. Well at least I made some lifelong friends who also left Also, I’m all the way on the other side of the country in the Midwest. It’s so wild how the experience is the same, like a factory. Thanks for sharing your story.
Kinda ironic the ads before this vid was about how Jehovah is the only true way to be. I was 14/15 before i learnt organised religion was not a good place to be. I developed my religious beliefs from research and what made sense to me at that time, i wont bore you with what I believe is the 'right' life to lead, suffice to say I feel it is more important to be compassionate than to be right in this life. ❤
Glad you got out. Even the regular Church of Christ in Boulder was a cult. They tried so hard to get me, but I was able to resist by going to the Lutheran church youth group, and Intervarsity Christian fellowship
I was in the International Church of Christ for a decade! I bet you were a part of my former cult. We were in every major city and named by those cities. Worldwide, too. Kinda imploded early 2000s.
Haha I was in that cult in VA until God literally pulled me out just before they baptized me. Then He led me to a solid Bible Church. Praise God!!! I wasn't in there too long at all.
@@travelsnacks I've met others who got out too. Its hard because as you said, they provide family-like soul ties and that can really mess your mind up. But the Lord is Faithful in that when we truly seek Him above all else, He comes to the RESCUE!!! Praise the Lord!!!❤️✝️
Yes yes, people including Christians, can have problems in themselves that hurt others…..Have Faith in God not people, we all have to grow in The Holy Spirit and wisdom, some more than others. All Good comes from God,…it’s the goodness and Love of God in us that’s makes us good! Okay enough!! Wow, you got so strong from going through all that deception!! God even uses the bad stuff when he has to. God Bless you!❤❤❤
I was in this church in Miami, FL. I was in both the campus and singles ministry. I always felt they were trying to do interracial marriages, and if you liked someone in the same race, they would guilt trip you for liking someone who was the same race.
I attended ICOC in 2001 in Jackson MI. Me and my friends were already christians and were looking for a church with diversity. They did not consider us christians until we baptised over and did church their way. They felt I was stubborn and prideful for not doing something I already did. We just wanted to attend a church. There was no musicsl instruments in tbeir worship which was weird. They dated each other a lot in rotation which was weird. No teaching of the Holy Spirit at all. They also cherry picked scriptures .
Funny but not haha funny, we were in the same church just here in Las Cruces Church of Christ. My wife and I left too as we knew too it was very cultish.
They tried getting me to move out several times from my home. They wanted to know everything about how I was spending my money. They even tried pushing me to take LOANS to give the church money and to pay for moving out.
I was wondering how this was a cult, ah... isolation from family and former friends! 13:19 I get the idea, like keeping an addict away from stressors and bad influences, providing a safe house, but it’s all about how far they take it. God still gives us free will so we can learn from our stumbles. So glad you found your way. 🤗
Our experiences in life get us to where we are today. I’ve used common sense and what I’ve heard over the years from the Bible. I’ve never gotten a tattoo even though I’ve been in the military and around people with tattoos. I’ve always held to just because everyone else is doing stuff doesn’t mean it’s healthy, safe, or moral. The older I get the more I believe in Jesus Christ. I don’t believe in pushing anything on anyone else however. It should be based on have absolutely no hidden agenda or motives.
The way others treat us is recorded as how they would treat Jesus. Same with us. Oh to be like Jesus 🎶 Sacrificial love for salvation of souls! Even understanding where we are in the stream of time. Jesus said don’t be deceived. And come out of her My people. And if you love Me keep My commandments. Let’s be found prepared to meet Jesus in peace at His soon return.
Sounds like SGI, Sokka Gakkai International right in Hollywood, Scientology, The Landmark Forum aka EST, Wellspring, ISHA (Sadhguru), They are all structured the same way. NLP, enrolling, witnessing, testimony and volunteering. In the 1970's my mom had to break into an office at the Scientology building at night on Franklin Street with her friends to rescue a close friend of hers because they were holding her against her will.
Thank you, Allison. You are so wise, and your relationship with Jesus shines thru you.
HOLY MOLY! I TOO WAS IN THE SAME CULT, BAPTIZED IN AUGUST 3RD 1993 PHOENIX VALLEY CHURCH OF CHRIST AND LEFT IN 2000! 7 YEARS TOO😊
The funny thing about cults is that they don’t tell you they’re a cult upfront. I was part of that group in 1994 to 1995 for a few months. Thank God that He got me out!
Just recently came across your channel. Got an eviction notice and at 48 years old going to live in my car.
Holy moly. My father was a church of Christ preacher. Thank God, he saved me from that cult. Subscribed!!
Yes, sista. It’s important to remember that Jesus wasn’t the biggest fan of religion. He wants relationship and community for us because we have differing gifts and are stronger when we share and care. But oh, the many times he handed it to the religious leaders….. I may worship at a church but I follow Jesus, not religion. I can’t wait for Part 2! (P.s.,It took me a bunch of years to get past my church wounds, and I’m grateful that I finally overcame!)
Amen well said
Amen! I'm glad you got through the church hurts. And yes, the religious leaders always seem to take it too far.
I'm so glad my grandfather always taught me it's about a personal relationship with God, not religion
Amen! Grandpa was right!
Grandpa was only partially right. There is no such thing as a relationship with God apart from God's people. Whether that is ICOC is ultimately up to God but we can't discount that God has created for himself a people, a nation, a race, a royal priesthood not a collection of random individuals. @@travelsnacks
Hi Allison, I was in the London Church of Christ in 1991 (aged 19). I was only in it for about 6 months, so didn't have the length of time or experience of getting married and having a family inside the ICOC. But it is amazing listening to your account and how many memories it jogs for me. I'm also really heartened to hear that you still love God and follow Jesus, and that this experience hasn't caused you to blame him or turn your back on him. I haven't listened to your two follow-up videos yet, but I look forward to doing so.
Thank goodness you got out! From dealing with a Domestic Violence caseload for years, the isolation tactics are case book for DV abusers. Divide and conquer and prevent victims from hearing the truth at all costs. Constantly breakdown emotionally for control.
Yep! Even talking about it today I can see EVEN more how isolating and abusive it really was.
There’s no shame in making mistakes when you’re vulnerable - that belongs to the people who take advantage. Describing how you were lulled into it will help others recognise it when they or their loved ones experience the same thing. And good on you for naming names! These places need to be exposed! ❤
I was in a cult as a child--the Worldwide Church of God, and they always stressed that we were the "One True Church." Glad you were able to get out.
I can't say that I was an ex member of ICOC but they tried recruiting me. I was out within about two months. I was waaaaaaaaaay too resistant for them to suck me into their cult. Only then I didn't know that it was a cult!!
I began my walk in the regular Church of Christ (not yours, thank goodness) -- this experience really messed with my relationship with God, never feeling secure in my salvation, always afraid i wasn't saved. I left that church and began attending Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa where i grew and thrived under Pastor Chuck Smith for 4 years. Even though i grew as a Christian, that first super legalistic experience still affects my walk today. Your testimony is incredible, Allison, so much it is similar to my own, i can't wait for your next video. I, too, was told my family wasn't saved because they weren't in the "the one true church." Did your church have musical instruments, in mine they weren't allowed. That tithe requirement, wow! The sheep beater atmosphere sounds toxic. Thanks for sharing, i would have never guessed this about you.
As a born and raised C of C person, I relate! After 52 years of that, it was such a relief to leave.
Ah yes this same organization recruited myself and my roommate in college. We fell in hook line and sinker and we even went on a weekend retreat with them. Luckily my boyfriend at the time did some research and found out they were a “cult”. My roommate and I immediately cut them off. Thank God!
Oh dang! I'm glad you got out early!
Thank goodness you got out. Thank you for giving your testimony. My sister was recruited when she was younger. She was a college graduate and just like you they love bombed her! She too had to give account of all her sins in front of the congregation. My mother, a devout Christian, felt something was definitely off and she literally went into that place and rescued my sister from their demonic control over her. My mom is the bravest person and you don't want to mess with her children! Who knows where they could have taken my sister if my mom hadn't of intervened.
Hi Alison! Thank you for sharing your story....I am sorry for all that you went through 😢
I lost my best friend to the ICOC. It happened a decade ago, but still sucks. He is the type to always need the validation of others, so the love bombing really got him.
Hey Keith, that is interesting what you are saying. In what sense did you lose him? Are you two no longer friends? Why is that?
@@Lotterywinnerify have you ever been apart of the ICOC?
@@Hello_gorgeous1 I am apart of the ICOC
@@Lotterywinnerify Okay, so it is very common the members cut off family, friends, or any form of support system both directly and indirectly unless your “Sharp”. Indirectly because the church keeps you so busy and directly because the church tells you to distance yourself from relatives, friends, and anybody they feel that can or is pulling you away from the church. And if you don’t align either directly or indirectly you are talked to.
@@Hello_gorgeous1 Yes this can happen. Sometimes such actions are justified. Though I agree cutting off family and friends without really strong cause is wrong and should not be encouraged. And, this has not been my experience in the ICOC.
Thanks for sharing. I was getting towards the end of the Bible studies for the same church, until i got fed up with their manipulation. They wanted me to attend to every meeting and telling how their church is the only church. That didn’t sit well with me and i started doing some research about that church. I will never go back, but i will continue my path with Jesus.
I'm glad I got out too. I went to a meeting and they told us people might tell you this is a cult, but it's not a cult! I went back home to the college dorm and messaged everyone else who was at an earlier point from me in their Bible studies about that and said I think it's a cult. Later I remembered that the one girl I messaged was actually the sister of one of the church leader guys. They all shunned me after that except for one other girl who left their church with me who became my best friend.
I was in NYC branch of this church. Everything this young lady says is TRUE.
I was in the nyc branch. Thank God that He got me out!
Exactly 💯
Allison I am so sorry you have gone through this. You are in my prayers sweetie. This sounds like LDS (mormons), Scientology and so many other cults out there.
Wow! I am so sorry to hear that this happened to you at such a young age and for so long. This sounds very similar to Scientology - I have followed Leah Remini’s story. I am eager to hear more details about your experience and how you and your family were able to leave. Thank you for sharing this very personal story ❤️
I've watched almost all of the Scientology shows and it is fairly similar. It's really wild how deep you can get into an organization before you're like.... wait, what the heck!
You were taken advantage of and manipulated. You were very young and vulnerable. Many actors in Hollywood were also taken in by Scientology. They use religion to scheme people out of their money and freedom.
Something happened to my comment, so I will re-type. This is an amazing video that honors Christ and compares true Christianity (which is healthy...falling in love with Jesus and following Him) to a toxic cult. You are really helping people with videos like this and I admire you. LOVE IT! Looking forward to your next video. Would love you to keep these types of videos rolling. Reminds me of Leah Reminy's exposure of the Church of Scientology. Go girl!
Yikes! I wasn't in a cult but we were in a church for years and our pastor retired and a new pastor came in. It got scary after that and we were deeply hurt there. We ended up pretty much being forced out. Thankfully we had a strong foundation in the Lord and didn't give up on God, but it sure takes a while to heal from something like that and trust people again. Looking forward to hearing the rest of your story. ❤
Aww I'm sorry that happened to you. It's so hard when pastors hurt those in the church. Good thing you stayed close to God!
@TravelSnacks. Amen! And the Lord led us to a better place and we have grown much there. I love Romans 8:28. ❤️
Thank you for sharing this very important story. God has a plan for all of us, and your story will help others who are in the same situation. Really enjoying your new content 🙏
I pray this is helpful to someone in a similar situation! 🙏🏼
Wow, Allison, I had no idea and I've been following you for years! My sister is a Jehovah's Witness and it has been a great sadness to my family. It's driven a big wedge between us. So sad.
Yep! It's so hard when family gets torn apart by religion. Sorry you've had to go through that.
Increadible journey! This story resonates with me... now I understand you more- Hugs! ❤
The problem is the people in a church community, they make a faith ugly with their own believes en rules. As i child i always felt a big aversion to it.. couldn't understand why until now 30 years i lost my boyfriend to a cult, the pain and grieve is. Unbearable woooow! In time we learn how to live with it, but we always will be left behind with a very deep intense wound. 🥹😓
I was in the ICOC in the mid 90s after a bad breakup. The love bombing got me. It's a long story but I eventually saw them as a cult and ran away. Multiple disciples kept trying to get me back. Crazy times.
Allison, You are going to reach so many people for Jesus. I believe it with all my heart, because you are not doing this for Allison. You are following the Lord’s leading. It shows! To God be the Glory. Love, big hugs & prayers from Oklahoma!
Thanks Glenda! I pray to stay in HIS will always!
Oh my gosh. This is sooo interesting. I can't wait until the next edition. You should write a book. You are helping a lot of folks here. Thank you for sharing this.
Allison, praise God you were able to escape this cult with your family. You are such an inspration. ❤
Yes! Thank you!
I can so relate to a lot of what you’re talking about. I was around 15 yrs old when my parents got involved in a discipleship type church, it all started fine but became more controlling. I was young but I remember my family was assigned a “Shepherd “ and everything needed to go through this person. I remember a friend in church said my dad was in rebellion because he resisted this teaching. It wasn’t to soon after that my family left, I remember my parents saying the church was a cult. I had another experience with a church when I was 16 yrs old that did not allow you to wear pants, makeup or cut your hair. They did not want you to associate with the world. I’m sharing these experiences because I totally agree with you about not blaming God. People are not perfect and will disappoint you even in the church but God will NEVER disappoint you. Jesus is the way, the truth and the Life.
OMG Allison. I love your story. Sounds like scientology. I would have never guessed.
I was thinking this was very much like Scientology.
I was thinking the exact same thing!
So glad that I found this channel. I can relate to everything that you stated.
Thanks for watching!
Yep! 💯
My ex-husband had just left a cult when I met him. Followers would continue to come to his business and call him to try to get him back. Even though he didn't go to the church anymore, he would gaslight me and try to shame me with this cult mentality during our entire marriage.
Happy 50th birthday 🥳 in 2023 Allison
September 25th! Mark it on your calendar! 🙂
Thanks Praveen!
Thanks for sharing your story. Very interesting. Can’t wait to hear the rest of it.
Part 2 will be posted on Saturday!
We went through all these studies, wrote the sin list, cross study, and had all the experiences you describe. It all just got all too personal. I have some still very good friends from the remnants of that church as it got disbanded. Interesting time.
I can relate to this SO much. I also joined when I was young (18). I wanted to get married and have babies in the church young but there weren’t many men in my sector. I’m SO glad I didn’t get married in it. I have several livestreams on my channel about it. I even interviewed 2 people from the LA church. New sub here.
Thank you for sharing! Makes me remember a time when I was taken advantage of at a very vulnerable time in my life. Bless you on your journey and much love to your channel ❤❤❤
I'm sorry that happened too you. 😔 Thank you and blessings to you as well!
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I think this kind of thing happens to more people than everyone realizes. I myself had an experience with one. They know how to pick their “victims “. They prey on people who are vulnerable in some way then before you know it you are in way over your head. I really look forward to hearing more about your story. I’ve not heard of this “church “ before so it’s very interesting.
My husband was out there when you were. He has a really crazy story. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for sharing your testimony. 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for sharing this with us. I wanted to here more when you ended it.
I joined the church in 1997 when I was 22. I also had religion in my background, and I wanted to really know what it was to love and serve God. The internet wasn't was it is now so it wasn't as easy to research things like it is now. I did have a lot of good experiences in the church because I did have amazing friends that I miss, but they stole my 20s from me and I failed all my college classes because they guilted and manipulate me to commit every waking minute to this church. They always assured me that God would bless my sacrifice. I did meet my husband there, and we are still married. I stayed in the church for about 12 years, and I left 14 years ago. I did try to get restored at one point, but it didn't work out. We miss our friends, but we don't miss our lives being controlled. I still talk to people in the church, and they never try to convince me to come back, and I never try to convince them to leave. They are people I still love and feel close to, but they know that I will never return to that church. Right now, I live somewhere where no one knows me, and sometimes I'm tempted to go to a local ICOC branch and pretend I want to learn about the church. I would tell them that I'm really struggling financially and need money for food and rent, so they would give me momey and I could at least recover a fraction of the money they manipulated me to give them
❤ Thanks for being brave and sharing your story. It's hard at times to strip away your walls to share. BLESSINGS
Thank you! Blessings back to you!
WOW! That sounds like Scientology. Thank you for sharing, this will help those who are trapped in a cult and want out.
Thanks for sharing your experience Allison. Will definitively help another. 👍
Thanks for watching! I pray it helps someone!
Wow. This sounds like an extreme version of the Church of Christ that I belonged to for 2 years. I left because I knew they were off base and I couldn't grow there. Sorry you experienced this. Glad you are free.
Thanks for watching, I'm glad I'm free too!
I have been to a church were I saw cars being repossessed, in the church parking lot, food stamps in the offering plate, it's crazy
Thank you for sharing this, Allison. I had a similar experience, but they weren't quite as forceful. Still a cult, though because they did not teach the Bible. God called me out and I believe He called you out as well.
Thank you for sharing your story, Allison. Those who it is meant for will be rescued for it 🩵🧡
I hope so! Thanks 🙏🏼
I am addicted to your channel
Thanks for watching!
W0W!
W O W! 🤯 Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for sharing this with us Allison. I know it must not be easy. Your very brave, strong and resilient (and talented!). Thank God for you being able to see what was going on and get your family out of it. I personally know (that’s a whole long story) that these cults prey upon younger, more impressionable people and those who might be older but are in fragile states/life transitions, needing love or support, direction, guidance, seeking answers etc. So that covers basically ALL of us! People tend to think they wouldn’t “fall for such a thing”, but they are just unaware how these things work in real-life settings. I’m hoping there was no physical or s3xu@1 abu$e in this one. I know that many do, in all different ways, I won’t go into here. Looking forward to part 2. I FULLY UNDERSTAND AND SUPPORT YOU in this endeavor! Thanks so much for “pioneering” and shining your light! God bless you amazing woman of God!!!
Thank you! For me there weren't any physical abuses but just recently it's come out that there was seggual abuse happening in some of the churches and there is now a lawsuit! I pray for those who had to endure that on top of the mental and spiritual abuse.
Thank you for your kind comment. Blessings to you!
This was very interesting.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for sharing. So interesting. Liking forward to hearing part 2.
Part 2 will be posted Saturday!
Wow!’ Thanks for sharing! So interesting and informative.
Thank you for watching!!
I am so glad you saw the light so to speak. I am glad you are out of there and getting with what I assume is a. Inch better life. I am anxious for the next video to explain more.
Yes I'm so glad to be out of there. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for sharing with us. I’m sorry that happened to you but I’m a firm believer that all things work together for good, so I’m sure you learned much and grew from the experience. God bless you. ❤️
Yes all things work together for HIS good. I learned a lot and am grateful I got closer to God. Blessings!
My daughter got convinced into going to the same organization (Disciples of Christ) while a sophomore in college, every thing that she experienced was very, vey similar (showering you with love immediately, writing your sin list, etc.) thankfully, I research the ICOC and sounded strange some of the things she was telling me about and eventually I told her she needs to leave that church because I didn’t feel comfortable with it. She was so angry with me and thought I was just such a hateful person but after leaving the church, she came to the realization that it was a cult.
Hugs Honey. I'm so sorry for this happening to you
Hugs back to ya!
I went to a very similar church. It was SLIGHTLY less excessive. Both ICOC and the church I was in were inspired by something called the Shepherding Movement. The thing that contributes the most to the toxicity is the fact that there are people who are very type A and they thrive on the social status that succeeding in the church gives them and they like being able to flex on other people with their "spirituality." And since those people really like the church, the church can point at them and say "these people made it work, so if you don't think this place is healthy then the problem must be you."
Yes I agree! There were some good things in the ICOC, but the controlling aspects ruined it.
Yikes! Sounds like a nightmare. I'm glad you got away!
Thanks, me too!
I'm not taking anything away from your channel but for those who don't know it's a great channel called growing up in Scientology.Aaron!
I've watched many Scientology videos and channels. It's crazy!
Might check that out. So many people act like that’s the way to go once the “church thing” doesn’t work out…
Fascinating! I can't wait to hear the rest of it.
I have always been of the opinion that the way to know if a church ⛪️ is a solid biblical church is to self study and pray seeking God’s answers. If there’s any contradiction, it’s time to RUN! So sorry we didn’t meet back then, I was living in Orange County diligently studying the Bible myself. My then wife was not a believer in Christ, I pray she now is but I doubt it. All you and I went through was undoubtedly God’s plan and we are better off now because of it even if it doesn’t make sense to us then or now. I hope to meet you in person someday, but at least I know that we will eventually meet in the eternal Heaven living with Jesus. Amen. Have a wonderful week my dear sister in Christ and keep on preaching His word, our precious Holy Bible ✝️
Thanks Mike! And Amen to heaven!!
Oh my gosh... sounds EXACTLY what my daughter just went through with Chi Alpha. 😳
I ended up in an Illuminati cult. After I left church cult. And my family narcissistic cult. There is no end to it unless you look inside yourself. I understand God, I pray every day to my ancestor s and I feel more connected to those I know by name. My passed away loved ones. They live through me and pass on their Wisdom on to me, but only if I ask for it. Amen
Allison, that's crazy what happened to you! It's unfortunate how you were treated at that "church." You're such a good storyteller and I'm curious to hear what else happened. P.S. Been praying for you! 💜
Thank you! I appreciate that! 🙏🏼
Hey look, I’m not even all the artistic but their music was 🔥 😂. I still remember some of the music fondly including that Upside Down musical. Well at least I made some lifelong friends who also left
Also, I’m all the way on the other side of the country in the Midwest. It’s so wild how the experience is the same, like a factory. Thanks for sharing your story.
I met one of the Wayon s brother's at the North Hollywood JW location!! During In LIVING color era! 😢
Oh wow!
That`s right, don`t put your faith in man, they might let you down, True faith is with the Holy Trinity.
Kinda ironic the ads before this vid was about how Jehovah is the only true way to be. I was 14/15 before i learnt organised religion was not a good place to be. I developed my religious beliefs from research and what made sense to me at that time, i wont bore you with what I believe is the 'right' life to lead, suffice to say I feel it is more important to be compassionate than to be right in this life. ❤
Been there and survived.Sorry for your experience but God!!!!
I grew up LDS and this sounds very familiar: first load bombing, then guilt and obilgation
So glad you got out.
Me too!
So brave of you to share this.
Xxxxxxo
Thank you!
Glad you got out. Even the regular Church of Christ in Boulder was a cult. They tried so hard to get me, but I was able to resist by going to the Lutheran church youth group, and Intervarsity Christian fellowship
I was in the International Church of Christ for a decade! I bet you were a part of my former cult. We were in every major city and named by those cities. Worldwide, too. Kinda imploded early 2000s.
Good thing you didn't get sucked in!!
Haha I was in that cult in VA until God literally pulled me out just before they baptized me. Then He led me to a solid Bible Church. Praise God!!! I wasn't in there too long at all.
Holy moly! Good thing you didn't stay in tooooo long! Amen!!
@@travelsnacks I've met others who got out too. Its hard because as you said, they provide family-like soul ties and that can really mess your mind up. But the Lord is Faithful in that when we truly seek Him above all else, He comes to the RESCUE!!! Praise the Lord!!!❤️✝️
Yes yes, people including Christians, can have problems in themselves that hurt others…..Have Faith in God not people, we all have to grow in The Holy Spirit and wisdom, some more than others. All Good comes from God,…it’s the goodness and Love of God in us that’s makes us good! Okay enough!! Wow, you got so strong from going through all that deception!! God even uses the bad stuff when he has to. God Bless you!❤❤❤
I firmly believe everything happens for a reason. I fully depend on the Lord now. God bless you as well!
I believe you. Danielle Mestyanek Young has a book, Uncultured. I believe my daughter was in a cult.
11:44 good advice ❤
Sorry this happened to you
Thank God you understand now who Christ is ❤
Yes indeed! 🙏🏼
Great interesting content. 👍❤
Thanks!
I was in the West region!
I was in this church in Miami, FL. I was in both the campus and singles ministry. I always felt they were trying to do interracial marriages, and if you liked someone in the same race, they would guilt trip you for liking someone who was the same race.
I did two years in that church international church of christ
"MARKED" I never heard that term in the 9 years I was in.
You were at AMS!
I attended ICOC in 2001 in Jackson MI. Me and my friends were already christians and were looking for a church with diversity. They did not consider us christians until we baptised over and did church their way. They felt I was stubborn and prideful for not doing something I already did. We just wanted to attend a church. There was no musicsl instruments in tbeir worship which was weird. They dated each other a lot in rotation which was weird. No teaching of the Holy Spirit at all. They also cherry picked scriptures .
"looking for a church with diversity"
What could go wrong??
smart 👍
Interesting........sparked my curiosity. 😍
I'm so glad!
Wow reminds me of scientology 😮
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Funny but not haha funny, we were in the same church just here in Las Cruces Church of Christ. My wife and I left too as we knew too it was very cultish.
International Churches of Christ. I was caught up in that for 12 years.
Caught up sounds about right!
They tried getting me to move out several times from my home. They wanted to know everything about how I was spending my money. They even tried pushing me to take LOANS to give the church money and to pay for moving out.
I was wondering how this was a cult, ah... isolation from family and former friends! 13:19 I get the idea, like keeping an addict away from stressors and bad influences, providing a safe house, but it’s all about how far they take it. God still gives us free will so we can learn from our stumbles. So glad you found your way. 🤗
Yes exactly, they didn't want any 'bad' influences. I'm grateful God allowed me to learn and grow from the experience.
Our experiences in life get us to where we are today. I’ve used common sense and what I’ve heard over the years from the Bible. I’ve never gotten a tattoo even though I’ve been in the military and around people with tattoos. I’ve always held to just because everyone else is doing stuff doesn’t mean it’s healthy, safe, or moral. The older I get the more I believe in Jesus Christ. I don’t believe in pushing anything on anyone else however. It should be based on have absolutely no hidden agenda or motives.
Exactly! There should be no secretive motives!
The way others treat us is recorded as how they would treat Jesus. Same with us. Oh to be like Jesus 🎶
Sacrificial love for salvation of souls!
Even understanding where we are in the stream of time. Jesus said don’t be deceived. And come out of her My people. And if you love Me keep My commandments. Let’s be found prepared to meet Jesus in peace at His soon return.
Sounds like SGI, Sokka Gakkai International right in Hollywood, Scientology, The Landmark Forum aka EST, Wellspring, ISHA (Sadhguru), They are all structured the same way. NLP, enrolling, witnessing, testimony and volunteering. In the 1970's my mom had to break into an office at the Scientology building at night on Franklin Street with her friends to rescue a close friend of hers because they were holding her against her will.
Scary.
Your cult sounds like my actual family.