Joe Budden Exposes The Music Industry & Labels | "All of Them Are Broke!"

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  • @laronnwilson7666
    @laronnwilson7666 2 місяці тому +639

    Soon as I moved to LA I realized artists were broke, film industry too

    • @uriellevelupriley684
      @uriellevelupriley684 2 місяці тому +34

      Me too 💯🎯✨🎯

    • @hirograveyard8236
      @hirograveyard8236 2 місяці тому +37

      Same bro. Same. It’s actually disgusting tbh

    • @Zackey-Zackk
      @Zackey-Zackk 2 місяці тому +10

      Bingo

    • @JusNBL2000
      @JusNBL2000 2 місяці тому

      There isn’t any money in the Us like that period yal watch “The Wolf of wall street” when they asked Jordan Belford “What happens if they wanna pull the stock” he said “What money?” That told me alot of this bullshit is an illusion

    • @curtissimmons2287
      @curtissimmons2287 2 місяці тому +20

      Drake not broke

  • @nate4nate5
    @nate4nate5 2 місяці тому +115

    Literally damn near EVERY song on various Spotify playlist sounds EXACTLY the same in every genre, except underground Hip Hop.

    • @purplekief8154
      @purplekief8154 Місяць тому +6

      Remember back day? If QTip made a beat, JuJu from the Beatnuts would have NEVER used the same snare or kick

    • @xorealslowmd
      @xorealslowmd Місяць тому

      Including underground hip hop **

    • @BlaccPreZidon
      @BlaccPreZidon 14 днів тому

      ​@@purplekief8154Everything is fair by Tribe and No Equal by The Beatnuts use the same Drum loop. Try again yute hahaahahaha!!!!!!!!

  • @clayalston7960
    @clayalston7960 2 місяці тому +426

    The music industry did it to themselves by not putting real music out.

    • @natefrm3rdnation332
      @natefrm3rdnation332 2 місяці тому +52

      Streaming and technology has done the damage. Real music will always be made, there’s just way more bs than ever…

    • @MaxIsBackInTown
      @MaxIsBackInTown 2 місяці тому +10

      You know nothing at the music industry if that’s what you think.

    • @clayalston7960
      @clayalston7960 2 місяці тому +22

      @@MaxIsBackInTown Are you serious? Stevie Wonder can see how bad things become.

    • @jahvohnymcintosh
      @jahvohnymcintosh 2 місяці тому +6

      Facts!!

    • @jahvohnymcintosh
      @jahvohnymcintosh 2 місяці тому +10

      @@clayalston7960 no 🧢 right there fr!! 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @kevinmccreary7439
    @kevinmccreary7439 2 місяці тому +170

    Remember Prince warned us about this years ago.

    • @tylerd1297
      @tylerd1297 2 місяці тому +7

      Prince kinda ruined the message with his greed. He was right to do what he did in the 90s but then turned into a tyrant striking down everything online with his name/music.

    • @tylerd1297
      @tylerd1297 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ginko154 no he's my idol. I simply disagree with how he went about it. He infamously had a video of a toddler dancing to Let's Go Crazy taken off of Facebook.
      But he was right for a lot of what he did, like keeping his music off UA-cam. I think he could have done more to give us something on here like his newer music but I respect his choice.

    • @Thespeedrap
      @Thespeedrap 2 місяці тому +10

      He was very prophetic we just should've listened to him and just started going indie and underground look what happened to TLC Toni Braxton etc.

    • @mikediddyTV
      @mikediddyTV 2 місяці тому +10

      @@tylerd1297you’re simply mad at him because he kicked a toddler off UA-cam / Facebook because he was dancing to HIS music. You gots to be kidding me! 🥴😂
      The bigger picture outweighs a toddler dancing. C’mon now.

    • @tylerd1297
      @tylerd1297 2 місяці тому +3

      @@mikediddyTV no I've followed prince my whole life and gave one example.
      I said I disagreed with how he went about it but understood his point of view. Where are you getting that I'm mad?

  • @peggy6400
    @peggy6400 2 місяці тому +279

    Times has definitely changed. You don’t need a major label anymore.

    • @jerrylanes8354
      @jerrylanes8354 2 місяці тому

      That’s what they want you to think back then you didn’t need a label that’s why niggas in Texas got money they sticking to old ways

    • @nola5045
      @nola5045 2 місяці тому +20

      At all

    • @UnseenAsyluM209
      @UnseenAsyluM209 2 місяці тому +31

      Need money tho

    • @urasenseii
      @urasenseii 2 місяці тому

      @@UnseenAsyluM209time to get a job

    • @MusicEnthusiast2011
      @MusicEnthusiast2011 2 місяці тому +4

      A lot of artists need it

  • @randywatson0745
    @randywatson0745 2 місяці тому +103

    Streaming Killed Music. Once it became expendable. Where you no longer have to purchase physical copies. Businesses and listeners lost ...

    • @mikediddyTV
      @mikediddyTV 2 місяці тому +8

      Agreed!

    • @bigq2696
      @bigq2696 2 місяці тому +3

      And on top of that you can do it yourself as a independent artist.

    • @bigq2696
      @bigq2696 Місяць тому +4

      @@macverishe3480 I remember back in the day guys were popping open the trunk and selling cds pocketing more money than some rappers.

    • @DeeJoyce
      @DeeJoyce Місяць тому +2

      ​@@macverishe3480that's killing authentic music if the artist aren't even needed anymore. But maybe this needed to happen to dismantle these labels from their slavery tactics.

    • @yungwill9179
      @yungwill9179 23 дні тому

      @@bigq2696nigga you quoting Nas lyrics and Papoose.

  • @dbaby9361
    @dbaby9361 2 місяці тому +224

    It’s definitely all about having a side hustle Rihanna didn’t become a “billionaire”until she stated a skin care & lingerie line she’s in no rush to put out an album.

    • @jafar1902
      @jafar1902 2 місяці тому +15

      Yea but before that she was close to 200 million😂😂 like let’s calm down she was making hella money she stopped music becayse she ain’t inspired

    • @dbaby9361
      @dbaby9361 2 місяці тому +17

      @@jafar1902 do u now the difference between having a billion dollars and having close to 200 million both are rich but it’s a big difference. She stoped music because there’s little money in selling records now.

    • @TheGuillotineKing
      @TheGuillotineKing 2 місяці тому +6

      She said she doesn't put anything out because it won't do better than her biggest album

    • @ZackAngelMusic
      @ZackAngelMusic 2 місяці тому

      ​@@jafar1902Music becomes harder to sell when there is not a physical product, aka CDs, Vinyl, Tape. Especially if it can be illegally downloaded in a second.

    • @ZackAngelMusic
      @ZackAngelMusic 2 місяці тому

      ​@@jafar1902200 million is a ton of money, but noway an artist will make that much now. Physical product don't sell now so, better to move to something that can physically sell better like merch and makeup

  • @statpadford
    @statpadford 2 місяці тому +192

    Labels did themselves in with their greed. The need to control the market has killed the market. When the entity that owns a monopoly on the market is incompetent, the whole market will crash.

    • @youngriley3473
      @youngriley3473 2 місяці тому +14

      The labels are reactive. They play a part and incentivize the bs however alot of bs artists get on by going “viral” on social media but ultimately the consumers create the market In the internet era and doesn’t know the power of “attention”.

    • @Thatbenjamindoe
      @Thatbenjamindoe 2 місяці тому +1

      This

    • @azraelfirstofhisname8695
      @azraelfirstofhisname8695 Місяць тому +2

      Agreed we’ll said

    • @user-uw8mc6sf4u
      @user-uw8mc6sf4u Місяць тому +1

      1000%

    • @statpadford
      @statpadford Місяць тому +3

      @@macverishe3480 In my opinion, limiting music to being only on Spotify/Apple/UA-cam ruined music. The need to make a dollar off of every stream ruined music. Strict copyright strikes on UA-cam for creators using music in their videos ruined music. You’ve limited the use of music, you’ve limited its reach, and you’ve lost valuable free promotion. Now nobody really listens to music unless they are in the mood. Podcasts and UA-cam videos have replaced music for me in terms of daily listening because music has pigeonholed itself to that. I can’t even review a song on UA-cam without getting a strike.

  • @henryhudson4965
    @henryhudson4965 2 місяці тому +175

    Great Hip Hop and RnB music left with the record stores 5:46

  • @phlprinting
    @phlprinting 2 місяці тому +147

    America is done not just hiphop

    • @Thespeedrap
      @Thespeedrap 2 місяці тому

      Bingo U.S is about as great as a backstabbing snake that thinks it's all strong when really is very weak pathetic and ridiculous.

    • @davidharris831
      @davidharris831 2 місяці тому +12

      True that fam

    • @qtrellx7174
      @qtrellx7174 2 місяці тому +21

      I’ve said this for the past ten years…..hip hop died in the late 2000s and American died after the 08 stock market crash…..we been livin on economical life support

    • @Thespeedrap
      @Thespeedrap 2 місяці тому +6

      @@qtrellx7174 I agree with you and sadly it's only gotten worse just because alot of these award shows have shunned Hip-hop music for decades and I find it funny that last year they acknowledged it 50 years but 50 years of what ?????😒just trash entertainment for poor black people to aspire how sad.

    • @TeganHoney
      @TeganHoney Місяць тому +1

      Facts

  • @trevscott2309
    @trevscott2309 2 місяці тому +36

    The mainstream basically pimped Hip-Hop and saturated the market with it until it became played out and everyone got sick of the sound. They aged the genre like a presidential term. I saw this shit coming 10 years ago when blockbuster movie OST's were crammed full of Hip-Hop tracks that didn't even fit with the movie at all. They're moving on to the new cash-cow which is Latin music.

    • @Thespeedrap
      @Thespeedrap 2 місяці тому +1

      It's a shame that black people need to own their own businesses in the music and entertainment center maybe that's why we need reparations RIght NOW.

    • @JD-ny3vz
      @JD-ny3vz Місяць тому +1

      Latin music won't have staying power the entire industry is washed

  • @BRUMSEYBOYS
    @BRUMSEYBOYS 2 місяці тому +90

    UNDERGROUND RAP IS BACK THANK GOD! BACK TO THE MIX TAPE ERA !

    • @themostsecretscience6409
      @themostsecretscience6409 Місяць тому +2

      I was thinking the same way. Low intelligence rap garbage is going to go away without easy money funding it.

    • @mbrown7093
      @mbrown7093 Місяць тому +4

      Maaaan I can’t wait for the gangsta grillz / southern smoke / Michael 5000 watts/ New Jersey devil wave to come back. Let’s get back to the mixtape Wayne 50 jeezy ti krit beenie fab and jada days. When ppl took ppl beats and murk’d em. Remixed songs and shit.

    • @Charger-ob8yl
      @Charger-ob8yl Місяць тому

      That era was cool, let's go back further to the 90s and DJ Clue mixtapes, Kay Slay, Dj Envy, Green Lantern, etc... when ALL the goats were in their prime.

    • @purplekief8154
      @purplekief8154 Місяць тому +2

      I'd be on Canal St or 125th twice a week coppin that RON G!!
      Aye
      Peep his 1st 1991 mixtape

    • @jeffkeys8703
      @jeffkeys8703 6 днів тому

      @@mbrown7093y’all should just go back and listen to those tapes instead of expecting it to return lol

  • @toneriggz
    @toneriggz 2 місяці тому +164

    A lot of K-Pop artists are American. Asian American rappers that didn’t pop here, go back overseas and get bread. Snacky Chan was an Indie, Backpack rapper in the states but became a K-Pop artist in Korea. Chinese wise, Jin didn’t pop in America so he went to Hong Kong and got paid.

    • @moee_thyself
      @moee_thyself 2 місяці тому +31

      Africans too
      A lot of Uk/usa artists suddenly embrace their African roots because they want to go viral in the afrobeats trend with African artists and tap into the TikTok dance base

    • @unclemurdablackandyellow5481
      @unclemurdablackandyellow5481 2 місяці тому +7

      That makes sense I couldn't figure out why the k pop artist don't sound Korean.

    • @KA-yk7cz
      @KA-yk7cz 2 місяці тому +1

      jin is not k-pop.

    • @toneriggz
      @toneriggz 2 місяці тому +16

      @@KA-yk7cz Hence why I said “Chinese wise”

    • @kierrataylor5653
      @kierrataylor5653 2 місяці тому +1

      Cause that’s what DaBeautifulKey is doing !

  • @RiCra012
    @RiCra012 2 місяці тому +44

    How is there American K-pop when K-pop is a bad imitation of American pop in the first place 😂😂

    • @Cahluvca
      @Cahluvca 2 місяці тому +7

      🎯

    • @la6136
      @la6136 16 днів тому

      One thing K Pop has over American artists in any genre is performance. They know how to dance. All American artists do is shake their ass. Rappers just jump around on stage they don't do anything.

  • @Chris-pm8qp
    @Chris-pm8qp Місяць тому +9

    I actually miss going to the store in Tuesdays to buy CDs.
    The streaming services don’t have the same quality of music that CDs provide.

  • @greenacres1739
    @greenacres1739 2 місяці тому +63

    Yep, they stopping ninjas from getting paid with rap/hip hop. Time to take control and start making cds and start back selling them out the trunk or getting a website and sell your music from there. And once you establish that, STAY AWAY from those record labels. DO YOUR OWN THANG!!

    • @Imlastudios
      @Imlastudios 2 місяці тому +4

      🎯

    • @tonylove1275
      @tonylove1275 Місяць тому

      You know they stopped making CDs we just got to get out here and use Word of Mouth to keep money coming in

    • @greenacres1739
      @greenacres1739 Місяць тому

      Cd baby still makes cds@@tonylove1275

  • @Ichsukatanuka
    @Ichsukatanuka 2 місяці тому +162

    Hot take from Joe but I see it, artistry and talent isn't important, streaming and virality is to labels. Look at the quality of music last year

    • @LODphantom
      @LODphantom 2 місяці тому +6

      That's the plan

    • @JM-qn3tf
      @JM-qn3tf 2 місяці тому +2

      Duh

    • @iFix43
      @iFix43 2 місяці тому +1

      Facts

    • @darthknowl9222
      @darthknowl9222 2 місяці тому +4

      Last five years

    • @fadethechannel
      @fadethechannel 2 місяці тому +10

      “Hot take” 😂😂😂 artistry and talent was NEVER important to the music BUSINESS. As long as it sells, they will sell it. This ain’t new smart guy.

  • @SpectrumPulse
    @SpectrumPulse 2 місяці тому +71

    The one thing that Joe is ABSOLLUTELY right on here is the fight between UMG and TikTok - the number of acts stranded on UMG and all of their subsidiaries that just lost the promo mechanism that the industry has been aggressively telling them THAT is what they must do to get the kids (and god help you if you built your audience there)... it's already impacting the charts en masse and it's going to leave a lot of acts "underperforming" when in reality it's far from their fault.

    • @kensane3588
      @kensane3588 2 місяці тому +9

      It’s funny, because the labels definitely invested in killing independent acts on SoundCloud by signing the untalented ones and then made the next decade of acts think they needed major labels again.

    • @missmarionlewis
      @missmarionlewis 2 місяці тому +8

      I've been saying this for a while now. Everybody and they momma going on tour. Beyonce not making no music videos no more. If she goes back on tour with the next then I'm really convinced.

    • @ad3098
      @ad3098 2 місяці тому +7

      @@missmarionlewis No music video, because she can make a doc and sell it making more money. Be it through a streaming platform (Netflix, Disney, Prime - past partners) or through theaters

  • @FreePlayMode
    @FreePlayMode 2 місяці тому +70

    I love these conversations because I feel the JBP and to an extent Akademicks are the only ones giving it up on the music industry like this.

    • @RonicBeatsz
      @RonicBeatsz 2 місяці тому +15

      Why did you add the to an extent with AK, because AK is the most in depth when it comes to the music industry.

    • @Josephchomba88
      @Josephchomba88 2 місяці тому +15

      Ak is the OG when it comes to industry content

    • @darnelldarden9429
      @darnelldarden9429 2 місяці тому

      Facts

    • @HHGoverment
      @HHGoverment 2 місяці тому

      Lmaooo

    • @Peanutcoladaa
      @Peanutcoladaa Місяць тому

      Yupp

  • @rainsan
    @rainsan 2 місяці тому +27

    I remember SchoolBoyQ said he makes more money golfing.

  • @Dmm314
    @Dmm314 2 місяці тому +44

    There is nothing new under the sun. Support independent artists, they are the ones with the creativity in there genes because of passion.
    Nothing has been original in a very long time and I mean going back to the 1800’s. Music is constantly recycled, has been for generations, nothing necessarily wrong with that but I also think it’s over saturated, it’s too easy, accessible to do music now, SO much content being thrown out it just makes you want to listen to your small circle of artists and that’s it.

    • @msbeautyboss3784
      @msbeautyboss3784 2 місяці тому +2

      Independent artist have been supported highly on TikTok. People always say to “support independent artists” but if people do not know who they are-how are we suppose to support them. Independent artists need to find a way to market their music for people to listen to…

    • @Dmm314
      @Dmm314 2 місяці тому +5

      @@msbeautyboss3784 It’s not my problem to figure that out. It’s in the artist best interest to find an effective way to promote their art. Word of mouth is still very effective. Not everything needs instant gratification, because the downside of that is whatever the art is holds no weight and people will move on to the next thing.
      Take your time, better your craft, let whatever is outside of your control fly. That’s it.

    • @urasenseii
      @urasenseii 2 місяці тому

      @@msbeautyboss3784 tiktok never supported independent artists.

  • @favoritesonline
    @favoritesonline Місяць тому +7

    Prince called it! God rest his soul.

  • @StaceyFoxx
    @StaceyFoxx 2 місяці тому +38

    Being part of the music industry must be HELL

    • @bigq2696
      @bigq2696 2 місяці тому +6

      And they wonder why chance the rapper never signed.

    • @GEVINCHYGAMEZ
      @GEVINCHYGAMEZ Місяць тому +1

      It is helll.....most rappers are dead or in jail

    • @bigq2696
      @bigq2696 Місяць тому

      @@GEVINCHYGAMEZ To bad there's not enough real ones.

  • @ShaneCM
    @ShaneCM 2 місяці тому +16

    This was a good take. I think artist made the most money from 2003 to 2012. Any artist that were new solo artist during those time periods probably still have a lot of money (like bey, ye, drake, Adele, Rihanna, Bieber, etc)

    • @joco2826
      @joco2826 2 місяці тому +1

      No they didn’t. Most money was made up until 1999.

  • @thesharepointhelpdesk
    @thesharepointhelpdesk 2 місяці тому +8

    Great time for the independent artists.

  • @tiffanymarshall6618
    @tiffanymarshall6618 2 місяці тому +17

    Being able to come up from any Online streams has affected the game across the board

  • @certifiedmg3437
    @certifiedmg3437 2 місяці тому +45

    Customers’ taste change every 7-10 years. New times 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @jerrylanes8354
      @jerrylanes8354 2 місяці тому +16

      Nah it’s what’s forced upon ppl like y’all still don’t get it

    • @devindt77
      @devindt77 2 місяці тому +8

      I'd say 3-5yrs but either way, your overall message is spot on.

    • @jerrylanes8354
      @jerrylanes8354 2 місяці тому +1

      @@devindt77 no it’s not damn tell me at least you don’t vote ?? Do you??

    • @ArteDelDiablo
      @ArteDelDiablo 2 дні тому

      @@jerrylanes8354it’s both. Look into the history of rock and roll and the same thing happened. It started as slightly rebellious music and by the 80’s you had druggies running the mainstream like Motley Crue. After that came the sound change. It got heavier and became metal all the way to the point that it sounds like mindless screaming. Rap started sounding like mindless mumbling. To each their own of course. My point here is that musical waves as a whole go through different stages. It’s like a living thing and is always growing and changing.

    • @jerrylanes8354
      @jerrylanes8354 2 дні тому

      @@ArteDelDiablo chuck berry wasn’t singing about drugs 🤣🤣🤣 and no it wasn’t rebellious smh it’s what them ppl behind the curtain tell y’all what y’all wanna hear come on now you think ppl knew what drill was?? Stop it it’s all about agendas your government wants you to do something y’all slow asses do it ppl can’t think for themselves they need to be told what to think that’s why religion is so big y’all ppl swear y’all know something until truth comes out truth trumps fact anyday all day

  • @couchmayne4351
    @couchmayne4351 16 днів тому +2

    I came up on lil Wayne , ludacris , Mario , kid cudi , The dubstep faze (also kid cudi) , linkin park, ne-yo, G unit , UGK , Nipsey hussle , early drake , T.I. , Jason Derulo , Trey Songz, Lloyd , OutKast, 2 pac , biggie, mob deep , 3 6 mafia, Afro man , tommy wright ll , and the list goes on, all these artists had completely different styles, then soulja boy and Chief keep came and took people to a new sound that was good at first but also the beginning of the end and they are part of the reason we are here today and all the old heads complained and warned us and here we are, I don’t even listen to music anymore when I’m driving and when I am I’m dam near forcing myself to listen to shit I have to back to old music just to enjoy it and I’m still in my 20s and already feel like an old head

  • @BeatsByGemsmiff
    @BeatsByGemsmiff 2 місяці тому +24

    I wanna know were was parks wen DR UMAR came on the show 😂😂😂

  • @jplusofficial
    @jplusofficial 2 місяці тому +5

    Chuck Barry! OMG! I was screaming at my screen 😂😂

    • @devontelewis7577
      @devontelewis7577 Місяць тому

      😂 on god , i feel like the man know exactly who joe was talking bout

  • @MrDavidchuck
    @MrDavidchuck 2 місяці тому +37

    its happening in the clothing business also.

    • @VikktorVampiir
      @VikktorVampiir 2 місяці тому +2

      What's goin on with the clothing industry... how is it happening there?

    • @themofomayor
      @themofomayor 2 місяці тому +5

      I like those Balenciaga's, the ones that look like socks.. the ones now on fashion nova. Then there's Shein v She By Sherie. Then there's aftermarket people like Dapper Dan. The labels making screwy deals would be like Crisp by Yoshi if You've seen How to Make it in America. Trash brands that get pumped on IG mostly by women would be like the Ice Spice of clothing. Nike been blowing out sneakers since Zion last year in college but Nike can't fail because LEAGUES would fail so it gets pumped. Them Devin Bookers is fire tho, said nobody ever.

    • @MrDavidchuck
      @MrDavidchuck 2 місяці тому +11

      @@themofomayor lmao exactly my point. No true originality anymore. And now there's this misleadingly "positive" dialogue being pushed about no one being original therefore it's ok to bite off the next person's original work and deliberately to no credit. It's getting nasty out here and in all forms of art.

    • @Tennessee2012
      @Tennessee2012 2 місяці тому +1

      @@VikktorVampiir thrifting

    • @user-zd7ox7ej7v
      @user-zd7ox7ej7v 2 місяці тому +3

      FACTS I thought I was the only one that noticed

  • @aaronclark2667
    @aaronclark2667 2 місяці тому +23

    I see they watched French Montana sit down with DJ Clue 😭.

    • @PancakeDiaries
      @PancakeDiaries 11 днів тому

      Nah, they didn't have to... Anyone who loves the music been understood this stuff

  • @StoxicVon
    @StoxicVon 2 місяці тому +5

    Another problem is ppl think clout and followers equals more streams

  • @Noplaydre
    @Noplaydre 2 місяці тому +22

    I don’t like cover songs…we need new lyrics about different topics

    • @JusNBL2000
      @JusNBL2000 2 місяці тому +2

      Imma be that guy

    • @selwynandrews7716
      @selwynandrews7716 2 місяці тому +1

      I like then as a means of displaying ability, not generating profit.

  • @TheShoka123
    @TheShoka123 2 місяці тому +11

    Lmfaoooo was that the blazing squad 😂😂😂😂

  • @OfficialDionWhoo
    @OfficialDionWhoo 2 місяці тому +14

    Mel is fire.
    This was a good conversation

    • @hazepark365
      @hazepark365 2 місяці тому +3

      no TF she isn’t. maybe you’re taking about when she gets up.

  • @StaceyFoxx
    @StaceyFoxx 2 місяці тому +9

    Money is in SYNC music (for ads, movies, radio etc) that’s the direction I’m trynna go in😴 yes to artistry but bills and holidays gotta get paid…

    • @beatbuildersstudio
      @beatbuildersstudio 2 місяці тому

      There might be money in sync licensing but it's not that easy to make a full-time living.
      It's still competitive to get top placements. I make music for sync and I have been paid. I collect royalties but I still work another job. The most I made in a year has been 6k.

    • @StaceyFoxx
      @StaceyFoxx 2 місяці тому

      that's still pretty impressive, but I do agreee, that field too is competitive...@@beatbuildersstudio

  • @Dbznation2055
    @Dbznation2055 2 місяці тому +11

    Nothing but facts

  • @midnitepostman
    @midnitepostman 2 місяці тому +23

    Parks get it on this one. Good point about covers

    • @perreality
      @perreality 2 місяці тому +2

      I’d like to see & her more from Parks

    • @ohhweeeee
      @ohhweeeee 2 місяці тому +2

      Nah, all this will do is steal the culture/music from black Americans (who created the foundation for most of the popular genres) and NOT pay them because they got horrible deals in the first place. They're already trying to say that Koreans created hip hop, believe it or not.

  • @demarcusstrange5213
    @demarcusstrange5213 2 місяці тому +6

    I’m glad Parks is getting more video time. I respect his contribution to this pod. Dude dropped knowledge with the royalties input.

    • @qhoward5328
      @qhoward5328 Місяць тому

      Almost thought boy was Vlad 😂

  • @OutcoldFella
    @OutcoldFella 2 місяці тому +7

    This is why im goin to continue to grow 🪴 more Independent be my own Boss gettin my own Big Bag 💰 own everything of mine Cut tha Middleman off create & signed my own label soon💯

  • @ptyaudio
    @ptyaudio 2 місяці тому +1

    as a music publisher, the biggest market for business opportunities is outside of the US, Latin America my guys are booking 5 to 6 shows a month and UA-cam and SoundCloud is the biggest markets to get exposed to easy money. granted pps is lower but it balances out

  • @chiquitico6345
    @chiquitico6345 2 місяці тому +5

    Joe i like this show better than the old podcasters. Could i be apart of live audience one day

  • @Ms110209
    @Ms110209 2 місяці тому

    The sad truth! Thanks Joe for bringing this talk to the forefront!

  • @Funkjunk3250
    @Funkjunk3250 2 місяці тому +38

    It’s all y’all fault! Y’all let rap artists go super sonic on autotune and call it a hit! Im still a boom bapper but it’s gotta be good!

    • @kungfufemafam9216
      @kungfufemafam9216 2 місяці тому +9

      Exactly. Even letting Rick Ross slide being a fake and Drake being Disney and manufactured

    • @ninobrown375
      @ninobrown375 2 місяці тому +2

      This highly under looked!!

    • @mwase7782
      @mwase7782 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@kungfufemafam9216 lol how is drake manufactured?

    • @thaneros
      @thaneros 2 місяці тому

      Pretty sure this is more about physical vs digital sales

    • @urasenseii
      @urasenseii 2 місяці тому

      boom bap is trash

  • @l7ent11
    @l7ent11 2 місяці тому +6

    Streaming platforms took over because it became too difficult in the technology age to protect the content. Technology continues to advance. What many miss while still relying on distribution platforms is that it is becoming more possible to protect your own content. You will see more artist going direct to consume in more creative way and you will see a new age version of the mixtape era and eventually some blockchain platform where mechanical royalties can be distributed instantaneously will come to knock off the giants

  • @MiggieSmalls91
    @MiggieSmalls91 2 місяці тому +6

    Damn it seems like we’re in the dark ages again with Hip-Hop and rap. K-pop was hella niche in the early to mid 2010s now it has become more popular. Artists in South Korea are making hella bread.

  • @medezintv
    @medezintv 2 місяці тому +1

    This is great! Now that the money gone the artistry might come back but it gotta lay low for a few

  • @BACKYARDBULLYnetwork
    @BACKYARDBULLYnetwork 2 місяці тому

    The song you played was from a 90s UK pop band who were signed to Rocafella

  • @ZackAngelMusic
    @ZackAngelMusic 2 місяці тому +4

    This is what you get when you:
    - Depend on audiences and big tech to control who gets seen and keep following trends (algorithms) instead of creating them
    - Dont develop, sign, and invest in strong talent that will last for decades
    - Make terrible deals with platforms that give horrible payouts for streams
    In the end, if the artists arent having a good time, eventually nobody will. Word will get out, the talent will figure it out and eventually leave the table. Also, influencers have been a bug in the system that takes that attentioj away from potential musical talents

  • @edwinragland2883
    @edwinragland2883 2 дні тому +1

    Hip Hop isn't dead.
    But Hip Hop on major labels is completely done.

  • @desr421
    @desr421 2 місяці тому +13

    Artists have been covering each other's songs for years! It's only really shunned in Hip Hop because rap is supposed to be about authenticity!

    • @selwynandrews7716
      @selwynandrews7716 2 місяці тому +1

      It shunned in rap cuz rap ain't like singing. Performing a difficult song that requires vocal range is alot different from just repeating words in your voice
      Now I can see it to display a certain ability like if you can keep up wit Twista/busta word for word but at the end of the day you're more likely to be recruited as an auctioneer than a musician/artist.
      There's really no artistry in covering a rap song. You have to actually sing to cover other genres which is the artistry/talent/craft.

  • @christopherlittle579
    @christopherlittle579 2 місяці тому +9

    We need original lyrics and compositions!

    • @Tes7000
      @Tes7000 16 днів тому

      I don't think there is much left. Over the past 60 years, musical genres and instrumentation evolved so much and so fast that there are no new sound pallets.

  • @hw2211
    @hw2211 Місяць тому +1

    NAS is still killing it

  • @soundwave803
    @soundwave803 2 місяці тому +2

    Whitney sang I will always love you and it made big bank for Dolly Parton because it was her song originally.

    • @masterxxiv
      @masterxxiv Місяць тому +1

      You kno Dolly can't sing like Whitney give credit to the writer

  • @boogerlane9774
    @boogerlane9774 2 місяці тому +12

    This is why they’re buying all these rappers catalogs so they can recycle their lyrics with these ai rappers

    • @williamjames09
      @williamjames09 Місяць тому +2

      But at some point music listeners are gonna get tired of recycled material.

  • @GrapheneFalcon
    @GrapheneFalcon 2 місяці тому +4

    So when everyone was going into selling their catalogs and rights, no one saw this coming?

  • @Rjisawake
    @Rjisawake Місяць тому +1

    Facts lol I agree all day with Joey

  • @Pursuit_Of_Speed
    @Pursuit_Of_Speed Місяць тому +1

    Where yall get that black Charlie Brown from?

  • @HoopsFYI
    @HoopsFYI 2 місяці тому +22

    Whitney Houston (RIP) made a bunch of cover songs, including "I Will Always Love You" by Dolly Parton. Cover music is like re-releasing Jordan models in different color ways; very profitable if the consumer loves it.

    • @sirashley2355
      @sirashley2355 2 місяці тому +4

      Tennessee whiskey- Chris Stapleton is a cover song i would have never heard those lyrics without that mans voice

    • @Tes7000
      @Tes7000 16 днів тому

      Whitney covered songs with enough differences from the originals to make them worth covering. Also, the internet did not exist at the height of Whitney's career, so it was possible to release a cover without every single person hearing it knowing about it and comparing it to the original.

  • @coachTaps
    @coachTaps 2 місяці тому +3

    Probably reason why American artists are collaborating with UK Artist a lot more than in the past. Initially UK artists created their own lanes expanding through out Africa, most European countries and Australia not relying on Labels.

  • @amyjoeofficial
    @amyjoeofficial Місяць тому

    About the music industry, the best thing that could happen to artists today would be an app that let you register your name as a label, so upon registration in the app, you the "artist" is the brand and become automatically your own label, allowing you to keep all your publishing, all your masters, and all your royalties. Everything you create you own, making the major record labels completely obsolete for the music industry we know today and for all future generations to come.

    • @DueceSpice
      @DueceSpice Місяць тому

      SOUNDS GREAT UNTIL YOU LEARN THE LLC SCAM

  • @Paper.Power.Politics
    @Paper.Power.Politics 12 днів тому

    That’s why, even after all these years, I still listen to immortal technique daily. Hes the goat

  • @bharrisonmartin5118
    @bharrisonmartin5118 2 місяці тому +2

    NO lies and touring is definitely done if they're signed to a 360.

  • @darthknowl9222
    @darthknowl9222 2 місяці тому

    Soon as the 360 deal and mixtapes got big, I knew it was a problem

  • @aarong3000
    @aarong3000 2 місяці тому +14

    Joe says all the artists are broke and aren’t making any money from music 0:02 but then says that he doesn’t know if this is true because he can’t get the information from the top though 0:22 He just contradicted himself in 20 seconds . Joe will say anything for clickbait! 😱😱😱😱😱

    • @Moneybagzzz
      @Moneybagzzz 2 місяці тому +5

      I mean duh? Dude literally admits that he says whatever.
      The funniest part of this was when he said "something bad is gonna happening, I don't know when, but it will happen."
      He's basically the hiphop equivalent to a cable news host.

    • @UnseenAsyluM209
      @UnseenAsyluM209 2 місяці тому +1

      It’s common sense
      A song is split up by
      Song writer
      artist
      Artist manager
      Lawyer fees
      Label gets a cut
      Marketing budget
      Videos
      And the artist has to recoup it from
      .003 of a penny
      It’s just not enough pie to split anymore

    • @Daniel-wv7lj
      @Daniel-wv7lj 2 місяці тому +1

      Completely skipped over the fact that he said "I think". He already told you he doesn't know, there's no contradiction

    • @aarong3000
      @aarong3000 2 місяці тому

      @@Daniel-wv7lj Did you read the title of this video? He basically says that "all of them (artists) are broke" 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

  • @mindrighttv
    @mindrighttv 2 місяці тому

    This topic is probably one of or the most important topic discussed ever. U guys touched on something really 🔥🔥🔥 and they don’t like it. If u were hoping we share this, no luck. FB banned this vid. You’ll have to settle for a like.

  • @wavegod_1006
    @wavegod_1006 2 місяці тому

    I don’t either

  • @Dwight_Chayer
    @Dwight_Chayer 2 місяці тому

    What's the name of the music genre that the uk artists are singing 90sR&B? I GOTTA HEAR THIS ISH!

  • @det3654
    @det3654 2 місяці тому +4

    Rihanna is a great example of that, that’s why she been gone when she realized where the money is at .

    • @louio
      @louio Місяць тому

      She's not a rapper, plus nobody trying to hear Rhianna in 2024. 😂

    • @det3654
      @det3654 Місяць тому

      @@louio they are talking about the music industry just like the title, not rap industry only. People still listen to Beyonce, the only reason they are not listening to Rihanna is because she stopped singing.

  • @ghostcoyoteproductions
    @ghostcoyoteproductions 2 місяці тому +3

    It's been like this for a while hasn't it?
    Get a deal. Tour. Market products outside of music. Repeat.
    No-one really buys music anymore, streaming made sure of that.

  • @asweenter1142
    @asweenter1142 2 місяці тому +2

    Basically like the housing market/ bubble burst in 2008-2009

  • @bsandmg
    @bsandmg 2 місяці тому +1

    Parks right on the money, Luther giving us them joints, man even Usher and Lil Jon with Lovers and Friends, covers are great, unless you not the writer

  • @Noplaydre
    @Noplaydre 2 місяці тому +1

    I think the better question is how can we be innovative while using AI as a tool to get what we want. We at heart are creative beings so it’s like let’s pivot and think of a creative way to use AI

  • @jayelucky
    @jayelucky 2 місяці тому +4

    The lack of knowledge towards covers in music... is uncomfortable

  • @dretheman123
    @dretheman123 2 місяці тому +2

    Artists like Spitta and Larry June are getting to the bag for sure, but as they already said indi artists are exempt. The indi artists actually have organic core fanbases that will go to their shows, buy merch and consume their music on a consistent basis. A lot of these mainstream label signed artists don’t have really have any of the above, so they will inevitably fail once their labels stop propping them up.

  • @eastwoodccj
    @eastwoodccj Місяць тому

    About 2/3 of all country songs are covers. That's interesting how that's happening with 90s R&B

  • @hexstarr
    @hexstarr 29 днів тому +2

    The landscape of rap has shifted significantly, with a noticeable emphasis on constant dissing and confrontational lyrics. This approach has left many feeling fatigued and yearning for a more evolved form of expression. Where are the days of Lauryn Hill's soulful storytelling or the uplifting narratives akin to "Jesus Walks"? Moreover, the camaraderie of group rap songs seems to have dwindled, replaced by a trend towards sampling without much originality.
    Perhaps it's time for a return to the basics: rich instrumental productions and albums that delve into deep conceptual themes. We crave tracks that uplift and inspire rather than perpetuate conflict. The era of incessant dissing feels outdated; it's time for rap to embrace a new era of authenticity and creativity.

  • @winstonsmith6204
    @winstonsmith6204 2 місяці тому +2

    European pop is a perfect example of this. I listened to this stuff years ago and I was like "it all sounds the same"

  • @EDubster
    @EDubster Місяць тому +1

    Hearing this argument created a lightbulb moment for me….could THIS (the potential future of just producing song covers) be the reason people are paying premiums NOW to buy artists’ catalogs? Bc they know it will pay off greatly down the road as the trend shifts to song covers? 🤔

  • @AAbernathyLMSW
    @AAbernathyLMSW 2 місяці тому +23

    So it's safe to say Jay was ahead of the game.

    • @disciple_deshun
      @disciple_deshun 2 місяці тому +1

      What do you mean?

    • @debbiedebdeb4183
      @debbiedebdeb4183 2 місяці тому

      ???

    • @TheWrapUpNYC
      @TheWrapUpNYC 2 місяці тому +14

      Jermaine Dupree has been saying this for 20 years!!!! No one paid him any mind. He said they going digital and they killing love artist. I’ll never forget it

    • @disciple_deshun
      @disciple_deshun 2 місяці тому +1

      @@TheWrapUpNYC oh ok.

    • @Gabaman2007
      @Gabaman2007 2 місяці тому +3

      Nah, he’s just gatekeeping the game n still getting got just not as much as us

  • @rheimidi
    @rheimidi 28 днів тому

    Covering songs is like sampling…it’s a good thing and everyone makes money

  • @Forgianomarkets
    @Forgianomarkets 2 місяці тому

    It’s crazy because I grew up never thinking about making money selling albums or streams. Always thought about just capitalizing off of my notoriety.

    • @FunkDoobie903
      @FunkDoobie903 2 місяці тому

      You're notoriously unknown 🤣😂😭

  • @IncredibleC85
    @IncredibleC85 Місяць тому +1

    8:04 I've heard this somewhere once before the Elvis stole music I don't know how true that is but I did hear that I'm from Memphis and I did hear that I think it's sort of like the comedians with Katt Williams was talking about if somebody can take your material and get big before you do then I guess that's the norm. I do music that's a very well happen to me. I think it's one of the lowest things you can do to a person though.

  • @BBoldGaming
    @BBoldGaming 15 днів тому +1

    Welp… that explains the beef

  • @slopaxo
    @slopaxo 16 днів тому +1

    I am a musician. I work hard and I’m going to create a record label combined with technology to help solve this problem

  • @indy_442
    @indy_442 2 місяці тому

    Agreed

  • @pyfutura07
    @pyfutura07 15 днів тому

    This the first time i saw parks not wearing all black lol

  • @tupactargaryen
    @tupactargaryen 2 місяці тому +14

    They’re definitely fixing to start taking our music from the 90’s and put a 🧑‍🤝‍🧑 face on it. Thats why they started buying up all those artist publishing a few years ago.

  • @lexlakaiser1
    @lexlakaiser1 2 місяці тому +2

    It's Sad this is where we're at.... SMDH

  • @loneface
    @loneface Місяць тому +1

    Na Ai will never replace people I think we deserve a bit more credit than that 😂

  • @moloperams
    @moloperams 2 місяці тому +1

    Parks needs to start his own side podcast where he has in-depth talks about the industry.

  • @BigBoomMuzik
    @BigBoomMuzik 10 днів тому

    It's going back to us in different way we the ones they need us we don't need them

  • @igotyourblack4801
    @igotyourblack4801 Місяць тому

    I feel like we're all just waiting for the bomb to go off...in general

  • @nikoenciso01
    @nikoenciso01 2 місяці тому

    5:18 who is that 😂

  • @JBAR54
    @JBAR54 Місяць тому

    The music industry has been fading hard since the late 90s.

  • @coreygoss1187
    @coreygoss1187 2 місяці тому

    parks getting camera time now..oh aite

  • @TheRealTevynJ
    @TheRealTevynJ 2 місяці тому +5

    Bringing up the UK pop acts redoing those songs had no business being in this conversation, that was all done in the 90’s it’s not new 🤦🏿‍♂️

  • @ezm2128
    @ezm2128 Місяць тому

    💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾!

  • @hirograveyard8236
    @hirograveyard8236 2 місяці тому +1

    Tooth number 767 inbound…