Right on man. You are speaking the truth. We are living in a time where dehumanization and easy access is damaging artists. The key to art is patience. I am mad about mpc stems now everyone will be doing what producers paid a fortune to do. Patience and soul is what makes good music. Any one can play a c chord..it's how you add the soul. ..free music platforms are the end to music. The AI industry wants pop music to become a totaly novelty that anyone can make so AI artist can replace humans. The release of mpc stems is actually the beginning of the total end for producers. I. 2 years a handheld device will be able to produce top quality recordings
Thank you for saying that, people losing their minds whining about mpc stems not dropping fast enough like that was somehow stopping you from creating your music, make your own damn loops and samples for the love of God so called artists are just lazy and entitled now
@@Jesoteric I realized most of these so-called producers today can't build a song from scratch. They always gotta wait on loops and stems! They can't come up with dope chord progressions around which they can build their songs. Very miserable times indeed.
@@johnnystlouis8081it enables you to separate someone else’s fully produced music into four layers like harmonics, rhythmic etc, so people can fuck around with it. They try to sell these as some “amazing” opportunities. Out right bastardizing art. Not bragging, but you know what’s “amazing” ? How for example my daughter plays the piano on their school opening day and nearly 600 pupils giving her a standing ovation! That’s what music should be all about. 😎☮️
The 400 years is up! The 400 years did not represent slavery it represented how long white immigrants had control over our land. They made a deal. From 1619 to 2019. What happened in 2020? The world went into a reset - coronavirus. Hollywood is no more. The music industry is no more. Disney is no more. All of the white companies are in debt look it up. This is time for us to take back our creative control. Look up how many black people win their land BACK since 2020. PUBLIC INFORMATION. Look up how many black businesses in Black companies have been started.
There's nothing left to do really it's been explored same with everything, i think star trek called it saying television discontinued as a source of entertainment by 2040 i think they're spot on. But at this point i don't see the point in carrying on with anything else either because it's just not the greatness we had in the past and never will be able, but with no ideas left they can't write anything. Games and books too all done now so it'll all be next is everything into technology the way it's already going and huge tech companies, but they'll just have to sell all the old stuff from the past like they're already doing to keep giving people distractions.
4:02 You're right, but they can't gatekeep anymore. Most artists aren't making music that's good enough to jump through hoops to get. Streaming offers too many options and too much convenience to be going to some website and signing up just to hear someone's mediocre music. You had no choice but to wait for one album to drop in the 90s, but no one has time for that anymore. It's not just the music industry, the internet killed a lot of gatekeepers.
Growing up in the 90s and early 2000s I used to love that band Radiohead. I had to wait like 4 or 5 yrs in between albums. All modern music is is a cool album cover that is just mimicking the 60s and 70s albums. Not new.. The music however is horrible.
My understanding is that the record labels are either founded or own a percentage of the streaming platforms but I don’t know I haven’t researched it but somebody has said that and I didn’t know if it was true or not
With the internet and owning your own platform, such as a website to buy products, you can literally be your own gatekeeper. I understand people sign for the advance money and POSSIBLE POPULARITY, but you can literally do what the executives do on your own. It could take longer, but it’s worth it long term 💯
You are correct on all levels. Especially the IT COULD TAKE LONGER statement. However, these days, people seem to want everything NOW and do not have the TIME or PATIENCE to EARN THEIR KEEP!
The independents sold out for larger profits which are in the hands of other owners. When we had our own, everything was richer. Now many of our families and relationships are broken up.
The worst gatekeepers today are major artists themselves. Look at all the artists that have labels and don't allow their them to blow up. A prime example is Drake's OVO.
Artists need to figure out that their new business model should be to remain independent. Get your own websites. And realize your website is like a TV station or TV channel. Sell advertising space. Give the music away for free via requiring downloaders/streamers to watch a certain number of Ads to gain access to streaming/downloading. Also artists should make their merch and concert tickets etc available on their websites. Artists should realize the new customer base for their music is advertisers. They are now selling music, videos etc to advertisers. This is what UA-cam does. And the masses who used to buy Artists’ music are now buying their live shows and merch.
Better off just selling it directly to them at a reasonable price with maybe a couple on-site plays a week or something. No one wants to deal with spammy ads.
What you saying is straight facts bro. Im 24 and Was having this debate with my brother who is in his 40’s. Growing up it was like my childhood was half analog and half digital being a person born in 2000. I would ask my mom for money to buy CD’s and when I would play those hard copy albums it was like entering that artist’s universe. You sat with that album for a week read the credits on the back and really grew to Appreciate it. Now its invisible music. U hear but cant touch and its almost like a disconnect. New Music is fast food. Old music is grandmas cooking.
I respect you bro for not begging me to subscribe and like. And.... For speaking the truth. Keep it up bro. I like how the music engine, keeps evolving. - but who the fuc really cares? Random reminder to anyone reading this April 8th ☀️🌗🌏 don't forget to wear shades 😎
Now it's saving them from youtube onto playlists after hearing it on the radio lol however there's nothing like the radio so i'm still going to keep listening.
YO you make valid points, but I don't wanna go back. I bought Chill Rob G on vinyl for 6.99, but now I can listen to Steady B anytime I want FOR FREE. Shiiiiiiiiiiid Streaming is a wack model for us artist, but as a consumer ...........
@@poppygoldensun Well nothing is forever not even physical copies but that's why you document it all as a textual list so no matter what goes in flames you can always find it. There's needs to be a site that catalogs every single song that has ever been made that way we can always find it and we can post our own lists too for people as a way to easily find things.
I agree with everything you said. I believe the rulers of this world and our creators really do not want to encourage any form of music industry. You can only make it as a solo thinker in music these days, there are no structures to depend on. All music organizations eg. Spotify are scavengers feeding on the carcasses of some artist's dead dream. What people thought was a music industry was only a cabal of opportunity hunters ready to devour an artistic spirit.
@@ralph8078 A lot of nation are far ahead in the number of factory work that we have access too. We don't have the same amount as we had in the golden era of our country. I wish we did though!
*I agree! ..The MUSIC INDUSTRY HAS CHANGED to a platform where they have a **#DUALITY** established, where they are actually SELLING THE EXPERIENCE to musicians of endlessly buying gear so they can feel as if they have the gab like the old helms AND They are using their vault collections on streaming services (( ALL CO-OWNED BY THE MAJOR LABLES AND THEIR SHARE HOLDERS )) to generate revenues via selling advertising for sync.*
Music has been devalued because it was given away for free! There is no way anyone is going to pay money for music today unless it is a legacy superstar artist or a major label industry plant artist.
Whatever spirit motivated you to make this video is a really good spirit. You're a rare being. I hope this message guides many because what you have shared is the actual blueprint for navigating the new music space. I do agree with your statement that, the playing field has been leveled and now is the time for musicians to use their creativity aand discretion to build their worlds. If a potential music entrepreneur can't do that, then, they are not cut for the music business.
There is no such thing as Gatekeeping in music. There are companies who do what they can to protect their brand and reputation. You can’t just do whatever on any platform even if it’s your own and not suffer consequences.
everything u said is facts, but i would argue the industry is live shows then if every other physical revenue stream is gone. the experience of being able to get people come and see u live, and the only gatekeepers that exist are the owners of venues and arenas.
It's always been live shows, even back in the 80s. The labels always found ways to rob (recoup) from artists as far as their recordings. Gold and platinum artists was getting 5 and 10 dollar checks from record sales of a million albums.
I agree completely I’m a producer, I am quitting music and only gonna do it for my friends and when I feel like it. Streaming took away all incentives to make money.
I've been INDEPENDENT all of my life through all categories you can name, and haven't had to work a regular 9-5 since 2009. As far as Artist are concerned, there are many who utilize the internet, bandcamp, streaming, physical,etc. Also at 1:09 it's funny, because people are renting out cars in VR, and some people get paid monthly upwards of 10k per month by META for their "clubs",etc and I get paid to play video games in VR. Don't sleep on it
I can't stand management companies that ask if you have a budget. If artists had the budget, they wouldn't need you. Proper branding and understanding who your actual listeners are is crucial. There's a big difference between someone streaming your music and a real fan who's willing to pay $50 to see you live. Analytics provide valuable insights, but success ultimately comes down to 100% discipline and consistency. I've signed six artists, and five of them have charted multiple times without spending any money. You are your own gatekeeper.
Y'all need to follow the Alchemist playbook. He been independent/underground for a long time. Be your own boss and invest in yourself. People be sleeping on the underground rappers, but they getting paid because they consistently dropping albums and doing shows. Just look at cats like Griselda, Boldy James, Larry June etc. These dudes created their own destiny without the major labels. You gotta grind to get it.
I was talking with a friend about making cd's, and he was like "dont nobodey listen to them or even own a cd player anymore" lol. I wouldnt go as far as to say nobody, but a whole lot of people dont. I kinda had the thought that if people loved the music, they'll find a player and rip it to mp3 or something. Or even vinyl. Im not even thinking on a "gold or platinum" level, but even a few thousand at $15 a pop is decent. There has to be a better way than streaming, because not only does it not pay...but people dont even really appreciate the music anymore when its comes basically free like that. They dont listen to whole albums. They dont even give themselves a chance to hear a song more than once, unless its a immediate "hit". I remember hearing albums and hardly even thinking twice about plenty of songs until after the 5th or tenth time i listened to it...but then growing to appreciate it and that same song becoming one of my favorites. When you spent actual money on a album, the whole thing got a fair shake. He's right. There's no more industry in the true sense of the word. Not unless you're somewhere at the very top of it.
So many great musicians out there getting ripped off. Sorry Maximus, but doing just "doing you're own thing" is not the answer to stop tech giants. Something has to change.
Yeah i see that with actors too it's all about the actor fame while they throw their attractiveness at us that has really put me off it's cheap and gross, great it's nice the person that became famous is famous lol but how does that even work when you aren't creating good product?. Ramping up the love hormones isn't going to keep people or make what you make timeless either i'm already seeing that with supernatural the tv show i was full on blinded by the actors beauty but then 2 years after it ended i'm already over it and have switched sides to liking grimm a whole lot more. I'm seeing how lame supernatural really is not near as great as i was lead to feel and perceive and i can already see it's not going to last the generations, maybe the first three seasons will but the rest nah. Why i've gone back to just unexpectedly finding things where i did in the 1990s i don't care to hear about the next funny thing they did at the beginning up until at least 2006 i loved their work and the quality of it not their behind. I mean it's a plus to have a nice behind lol but it's not why i really liked them.
@@marcus.mccloud Both! But they both only get Singles just like we use to do to the radio stations back in the day. Only give them crumbs and then charge for the whole meal! Salute 🫡
I remember going to a discount store in 1989/90, there was a bin FULL of new copies of Paul's Boutique, like at least 100, they were $1.99, I only bought one :(
Yeah, just like anything else. digitized electric world. It is sad, and doesnt have to be this way. Its almost all "pre thought out" for everyone, makes creativity in people be turned off and be dependent upon others creations and thoughts. Not much originality. Yet the devices are still cool. Kinda a weird combo.
True. I've was in it back in the door. No resemblance to today! Face it, what is out there is pitched as freeing artists but, in fact, there are way more middlemen controlling the game anarchically, instead of large labels. Who makes money on Soundcloud, et al.? Souncldoud, et al, that's who. Ditto for the social media platforms...youtube rakes in billions...artists a few pennies. Sure, you can make it, if you can survie, over the long run it takes.
Instead of gatekeeper these industry cats out here playing GAYkeeper! 03:37 compartmentalized is the word you were looking for, agree a thousand percent on everything said here!
And also, it takes us back to the dawn of time when music was just music. There was no profit or fame from it and artists just made music for the love of it. If you want money then go get a job. Music was never an avenue meant to make loads of money.
SIMPLE MUSIC BUSINESS & CREATIVITY SONGWRITING PRODUCTION PRO TOOLS MUSICIANSHIP ETC... 3 MAJORS UNIVERSAL WARNER SONY CONTROL 85% OF THE MARKET INDEPENDENT ARTIST LABELS 15% OF MARKET..... JB.OK
I mentioned on another channel about why it's so difficult to get into the music world (I called that because you don't like me using the word industry ) in the world of sport if your good you make it , but you could be a great songwriter and never get a chance , so I would criticise the people running it not the artists ! I write songs people like them but you seem to walk down blind alleys . I'm thinking of going to the far east . God bless all . ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I disagree we just made money on our own your right about streaming Stay independent we make money off of vinyl, cassettes you have bandcamp I know ppl get 100-150$ for vinyl overseas if you don’t understand the business of music you won’t make a profit #Stayindependent & make your own lane #fastdreams #blackrose coming soon
There never been money in the music industry for the artist, really think about it Jay-z and Dame didn't really make their money from Rocafella records; it was made in Rocawear, liquor deals, shoe deals etc. Music was use a marketing tool to sell their products, TV shows are the same that's why there is so many commercials. Netflix, Hulu, Amazon are pay content creator $100 of millions they recoup the money by trying to sell you product in commercials, the $5.99 menbership fee can barely cover them buying content. UA-cam, TikTok, instagram accounts are the same, they were never really design for you to make money from your videos; it was design in a way for you to market your product. Welcome to Capitalism 101
My guy, the "music industry" terminology is merely just a descriptor people use to define the business aspect of music-making. You're not meant to take it literally or try to conflate it with other industries that function very differently. If you simply type up "music industry definition" on Google it will tell you that "It's a market comprised of three main categories: live music, recording, and publishing" on one of the dropdown menus. By stating that the music industry is dying or thriving due to the performance in the market would be a fair thing to say. So if you're someone who makes music for a living, you wouldn't be wrong to say that you work in the music industry no matter if you're working independently or with major studios. You're just overcomplicating the matter by stating that it's wrong. It's like me saying that purchasing a subscription on Netflix is technically not purchasing, because that would imply that you are acquiring (as in keep permanently) whatever you gain access to when in reality, it's a glorified rental service. Most people know this but they will still use the word anyway because that's just how it is.
I think you missed the point. I am referring to the changing of Hardware Distribution to Digital Distribution over the last two decades. It's way more money in Hard Disc Sells and in return more people gets to Eat off the Pie from Hard Disc Vs Digital. That's a real Industry. Everybody can Eat! That's Industry! Get People Paid!
@@maximusxxi Well I have no idea how they compare in terms of profit-making but I imagine both have their positives and negatives. Perhaps selling physical units was a lot more lucrative than digital copies but the lack of convenience makes it impossible to go back to those old ways. I'm certain artists can still earn good money, especially since it's much more accessible to make music today than ever before. In my opinion, the increase in competition is the most significant challenge for artists to gain recognition and revenue. Politics has also played a key role in the production process which may explain why the quality and outcome on all spectrums of music and other forms of entertainment has dwindled. But that's just my observation as a hobbyist as opposed to a professional who works in these fields.
Well they are making money from youtube videos and how much they make per view add that up with millions of views and all the videos they upload and it's a lot they make lol. I've noticed they keep deleting and re uploading songs once it reaches so many views too because i have to keep re-adding a few every few months to my playlists lol. That's how they make their money now it's all monetized and from live shows. I need a solid answer though, if all ideas and genres have been done then what the heck are they going to do? lol because i don't see what else anyone can do with anything anymore. I think star trek got it right how it is in that world where they just throw themselves into their work, space exploration, and advancing new technology and science because what else is there?. I think the future is going to go into holographic concerts like they're already doing with Abba and a few other past musicians just to give new generations distractions. I do sense everyone is trying to come up with new ideas right now but honestly as someone who likes something from every type of music i can't think of anything totally different anyone could do now. It doesn't matter if they use AI like what could it come up with that would be like nothing we've heard before?.
Right on man. You are speaking the truth. We are living in a time where dehumanization and easy access is damaging artists. The key to art is patience. I am mad about mpc stems now everyone will be doing what producers paid a fortune to do. Patience and soul is what makes good music. Any one can play a c chord..it's how you add the soul. ..free music platforms are the end to music. The AI industry wants pop music to become a totaly novelty that anyone can make so AI artist can replace humans. The release of mpc stems is actually the beginning of the total end for producers. I. 2 years a handheld device will be able to produce top quality recordings
Thank you for saying that, people losing their minds whining about mpc stems not dropping fast enough like that was somehow stopping you from creating your music, make your own damn loops and samples for the love of God so called artists are just lazy and entitled now
What is the MPC stems you are talking about?
@@Jesotericfacts
@@Jesoteric I realized most of these so-called producers today can't build a song from scratch. They always gotta wait on loops and stems!
They can't come up with dope chord progressions around which they can build their songs. Very miserable times indeed.
@@johnnystlouis8081it enables you to separate someone else’s fully produced music into four layers like harmonics, rhythmic etc, so people can fuck around with it. They try to sell these as some “amazing” opportunities. Out right bastardizing art. Not bragging, but you know what’s “amazing” ? How for example my daughter plays the piano on their school opening day and nearly 600 pupils giving her a standing ovation! That’s what music should be all about. 😎☮️
The music hustle is done, been done the higher ups ate up the subsidiary labels mid 2000s , they are putting money into reggaeton and afrobeats
The 400 years is up!
The 400 years did not represent slavery it represented how long white immigrants had control over our land. They made a deal. From 1619 to 2019. What happened in 2020? The world went into a reset - coronavirus. Hollywood is no more. The music industry is no more. Disney is no more. All of the white companies are in debt look it up. This is time for us to take back our creative control. Look up how many black people win their land BACK since 2020. PUBLIC INFORMATION.
Look up how many black businesses in Black companies have been started.
New musicians making big bucks every year...it ain't done
and kpop
Thats gonna collapse as well cus everyone gaining internet access its all just a matter of time
There's nothing left to do really it's been explored same with everything, i think star trek called it saying television discontinued as a source of entertainment by 2040 i think they're spot on. But at this point i don't see the point in carrying on with anything else either because it's just not the greatness we had in the past and never will be able, but with no ideas left they can't write anything.
Games and books too all done now so it'll all be next is everything into technology the way it's already going and huge tech companies, but they'll just have to sell all the old stuff from the past like they're already doing to keep giving people distractions.
4:02 You're right, but they can't gatekeep anymore. Most artists aren't making music that's good enough to jump through hoops to get. Streaming offers too many options and too much convenience to be going to some website and signing up just to hear someone's mediocre music.
You had no choice but to wait for one album to drop in the 90s, but no one has time for that anymore.
It's not just the music industry, the internet killed a lot of gatekeepers.
Salute! Big Respect!
Building anticipation is gonna be very difficult in 2024. Gotta figure out something though! Salute!
Growing up in the 90s and early 2000s I used to love that band Radiohead. I had to wait like 4 or 5 yrs in between albums. All modern music is is a cool album cover that is just mimicking the 60s and 70s albums. Not new.. The music however is horrible.
My understanding is that the record labels are either founded or own a percentage of the streaming platforms but I don’t know I haven’t researched it but somebody has said that and I didn’t know if it was true or not
Well try this guy named Sullivan Rose Out. Debut Project Called Nemo on all platforms. He’s pretty good family.
With the internet and owning your own platform, such as a website to buy products, you can literally be your own gatekeeper. I understand people sign for the advance money and POSSIBLE POPULARITY, but you can literally do what the executives do on your own. It could take longer, but it’s worth it long term 💯
Facts
You are correct on all levels. Especially the IT COULD TAKE LONGER statement. However, these days, people seem to want everything NOW and do not have the TIME or PATIENCE to EARN THEIR KEEP!
He’s right most don’t put in the work,or effort to do that
You must have no clue how much it cost to make an PROFESSIONAL album
The independents sold out for larger profits which are in the hands of other owners. When we had our own, everything was richer. Now many of our families and relationships are broken up.
I miss gatekeepers.
Bruh fr. Very pro gatekeeping
The worst gatekeepers today are major artists themselves. Look at all the artists that have labels and don't allow their them to blow up. A prime example is Drake's OVO.
This message is sooo rare and well needed. Much respect.
Salute! Respect! Thank You!
Artists need to figure out that their new business model should be to remain independent. Get your own websites. And realize your website is like a TV station or TV channel. Sell advertising space. Give the music away for free via requiring downloaders/streamers to watch a certain number of Ads to gain access to streaming/downloading. Also artists should make their merch and concert tickets etc available on their websites. Artists should realize the new customer base for their music is advertisers. They are now selling music, videos etc to advertisers. This is what UA-cam does. And the masses who used to buy Artists’ music are now buying their live shows and merch.
Better off just selling it directly to them at a reasonable price with maybe a couple on-site plays a week or something. No one wants to deal with spammy ads.
as a musician how much time do you spend on artists websites? the average consumer spends 0 minutes.
What you saying is straight facts bro. Im 24 and Was having this debate with my brother who is in his 40’s. Growing up it was like my childhood was half analog and half digital being a person born in 2000. I would ask my mom for money to buy CD’s and when I would play those hard copy albums it was like entering that artist’s universe. You sat with that album for a week read the credits on the back and really grew to Appreciate it. Now its invisible music. U hear but cant touch and its almost like a disconnect. New Music is fast food. Old music is grandmas cooking.
@@ty.exit140 Salute 🫡 You said it best!!! Thank You 🙏🏽
Wow for you to be 24/25 yrs old you're very wise. That last part you said is the indisputable truth. Good analogy!
@@aqueenceereid4249 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Same. Was born in 95 so that’s facts
I respect you bro for not begging me to subscribe and like. And.... For speaking the truth.
Keep it up bro. I like how the music engine, keeps evolving. - but who the fuc really cares?
Random reminder
to anyone reading this
April 8th ☀️🌗🌏 don't forget
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Good point
"You'll own nothing & be happy" that's what they want folks
He's right!!!!!!!
Barry White didn't like cassette tapes cause people could record music themselves. Technology changes everything.
Sure you're right...
Now it's saving them from youtube onto playlists after hearing it on the radio lol however there's nothing like the radio so i'm still going to keep listening.
YO you make valid points, but I don't wanna go back. I bought Chill Rob G on vinyl for 6.99, but now I can listen to Steady B anytime I want FOR FREE. Shiiiiiiiiiiid Streaming is a wack model for us artist, but as a consumer ...........
Even as a consumer I think it's all bad. If it's not physical or tangible it can easily go up in smoke.
The quality of music has been completely diluted because of streaming. Goes to show that there is no such thing as a solution, only trade offs.
@@poppygoldensun Well nothing is forever not even physical copies but that's why you document it all as a textual list so no matter what goes in flames you can always find it. There's needs to be a site that catalogs every single song that has ever been made that way we can always find it and we can post our own lists too for people as a way to easily find things.
@@Harteo3917 Can't argue with you there. The only thing is... things that are online are much more finite in my opinion.
I agree with you..there is no music industry, it's just a hobby for 85 Percent of artists both popular and upcoming
Speaking real shit tho
I agree with everything you said. I believe the rulers of this world and our creators really do not want to encourage any form of music industry. You can only make it as a solo thinker in music these days, there are no structures to depend on. All music organizations eg. Spotify are scavengers feeding on the carcasses of some artist's dead dream. What people thought was a music industry was only a cabal of opportunity hunters ready to devour an artistic spirit.
You said it best! Salute!
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Bro I’ve been saying this shit for the last 10 years .. CONFIRMING 💯💯💯
@@harold3ize Salute 🫡 Big Respect!
Straight 💎🔥 well spoken and broken down, there is no god damn music industry! I’m wit u lmao
America itself is an industry brother.
America is becoming less Industrial every decade! but I hear Ya! Salute!
@@maximusxxi and how is that?
@@ralph8078 A lot of nation are far ahead in the number of factory work that we have access too. We don't have the same amount as we had in the golden era of our country. I wish we did though!
@@maximusxxifacts
*I agree! ..The MUSIC INDUSTRY HAS CHANGED to a platform where they have a **#DUALITY** established, where they are actually SELLING THE EXPERIENCE to musicians of endlessly buying gear so they can feel as if they have the gab like the old helms AND They are using their vault collections on streaming services (( ALL CO-OWNED BY THE MAJOR LABLES AND THEIR SHARE HOLDERS )) to generate revenues via selling advertising for sync.*
i literally just ran the experiment you were talking about then this popped up in my algorithm. Thank you for this truth and validation dawg!
@@ShroomGodBreadzilla Salute 🫡 Thank You!
Music has been devalued because it was given away for free! There is no way anyone is going to pay money for music today unless it is a legacy superstar artist or a major label industry plant artist.
Facts if curren$y not dropping a tape I will not purchase it fam you right
Thank you for being a light barer! The Industry died when. Napster took over!
Whatever spirit motivated you to make this video is a really good spirit. You're a rare being. I hope this message guides many because what you have shared is the actual blueprint for navigating the new music space. I do agree with your statement that, the playing field has been leveled and now is the time for musicians to use their creativity aand discretion to build their worlds. If a potential music entrepreneur can't do that, then, they are not cut for the music business.
Amen, been this way since the 2010's just gotten worse. I signed a pub deal and after I got the money I was like what the hell is this "industry"
Salute!
There is no such thing as Gatekeeping in music. There are companies who do what they can to protect their brand and reputation. You can’t just do whatever on any platform even if it’s your own and not suffer consequences.
everything u said is facts, but i would argue the industry is live shows then if every other physical revenue stream is gone.
the experience of being able to get people come and see u live, and the only gatekeepers that exist are the owners of venues and arenas.
Salute! I can definitely see it that way also! Thanks!
It's always been live shows, even back in the 80s. The labels always found ways to rob (recoup) from artists as far as their recordings. Gold and platinum artists was getting 5 and 10 dollar checks from record sales of a million albums.
It's already gone that way a lot for a while doing live shows there's even a trend of going back to more raw sounds and analog guitars.
I agree completely I’m a producer, I am quitting music and only gonna do it for my friends and when I feel like it. Streaming took away all incentives to make money.
Salute! I Feel you!
I've been INDEPENDENT all of my life through all categories you can name, and haven't had to work a regular 9-5 since 2009. As far as Artist are concerned, there are many who utilize the internet, bandcamp, streaming, physical,etc. Also at 1:09 it's funny, because people are renting out cars in VR, and some people get paid monthly upwards of 10k per month by META for their "clubs",etc and I get paid to play video games in VR. Don't sleep on it
@@MisterUrbanWorld That’s Crazy! VR really hitting like that?! I’m in the wrong business! 😂 Salute 🫡 Respect!
This man is 100% accurate
True story 💯 this shit free game now 😂
I can't stand management companies that ask if you have a budget. If artists had the budget, they wouldn't need you. Proper branding and understanding who your actual listeners are is crucial. There's a big difference between someone streaming your music and a real fan who's willing to pay $50 to see you live. Analytics provide valuable insights, but success ultimately comes down to 100% discipline and consistency. I've signed six artists, and five of them have charted multiple times without spending any money. You are your own gatekeeper.
You can’t call it a music industry no more, you have to create your own industry
There was never a music industry It's a business first music second
Because of the thumbnail, I thought it's Denzel Washington 🙄
Wish I could “like” it twice…!
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Y'all need to follow the Alchemist playbook. He been independent/underground for a long time. Be your own boss and invest in yourself. People be sleeping on the underground rappers, but they getting paid because they consistently dropping albums and doing shows. Just look at cats like Griselda, Boldy James, Larry June etc. These dudes created their own destiny without the major labels. You gotta grind to get it.
AI can copy ANYTHING music puts out and make it better
youre speaking the real
cus its all so different now man, its so many different routes the industry is basically irrelevant
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I was talking with a friend about making cd's, and he was like "dont nobodey listen to them or even own a cd player anymore" lol. I wouldnt go as far as to say nobody, but a whole lot of people dont. I kinda had the thought that if people loved the music, they'll find a player and rip it to mp3 or something. Or even vinyl. Im not even thinking on a "gold or platinum" level, but even a few thousand at $15 a pop is decent. There has to be a better way than streaming, because not only does it not pay...but people dont even really appreciate the music anymore when its comes basically free like that. They dont listen to whole albums. They dont even give themselves a chance to hear a song more than once, unless its a immediate "hit". I remember hearing albums and hardly even thinking twice about plenty of songs until after the 5th or tenth time i listened to it...but then growing to appreciate it and that same song becoming one of my favorites. When you spent actual money on a album, the whole thing got a fair shake.
He's right. There's no more industry in the true sense of the word. Not unless you're somewhere at the very top of it.
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I really do feel like he’s talking to me on a spiritual level..
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So many great musicians out there getting ripped off. Sorry Maximus, but doing just "doing you're own thing" is not the answer to stop tech giants. Something has to change.
It's the fans that make it an industry
The artists are the product now
Yeah i see that with actors too it's all about the actor fame while they throw their attractiveness at us that has really put me off it's cheap and gross, great it's nice the person that became famous is famous lol but how does that even work when you aren't creating good product?.
Ramping up the love hormones isn't going to keep people or make what you make timeless either i'm already seeing that with supernatural the tv show i was full on blinded by the actors beauty but then 2 years after it ended i'm already over it and have switched sides to liking grimm a whole lot more. I'm seeing how lame supernatural really is not near as great as i was lead to feel and perceive and i can already see it's not going to last the generations, maybe the first three seasons will but the rest nah.
Why i've gone back to just unexpectedly finding things where i did in the 1990s i don't care to hear about the next funny thing they did at the beginning up until at least 2006 i loved their work and the quality of it not their behind. I mean it's a plus to have a nice behind lol but it's not why i really liked them.
Some people have to reinvent their 🤔 thinking and vocabulary.
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Which do you prefer?
Spotify or Bandcamp
@@marcus.mccloud Both! But they both only get Singles just like we use to do to the radio stations back in the day. Only give them crumbs and then charge for the whole meal! Salute 🫡
The music is just an advertisement of yourself. Sell merch, sell memorabilia, sell whatever. If you try to sell music itself you’re doomed.
I remember going to a discount store in 1989/90, there was a bin FULL of new copies of Paul's Boutique, like at least 100, they were $1.99, I only bought one :(
FACTS, my brotha ALL FACTS.
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Time just evolved bro. It’s online industry now. Only thing gatekeepd is knowing how to get paid from online streams
i know a label that does exactly this lol
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Speaking some real nigga shit,and as an artist myself the rap industry messed up bruh.
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Yeah, just like anything else. digitized electric world. It is sad, and doesnt have to be this way. Its almost all "pre thought out" for everyone, makes creativity in people be turned off and be dependent upon others creations and thoughts. Not much originality. Yet the devices are still cool. Kinda a weird combo.
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True. I've was in it back in the door. No resemblance to today! Face it, what is out there is pitched as freeing artists but, in fact, there are way more middlemen controlling the game anarchically, instead of large labels. Who makes money on Soundcloud, et al.? Souncldoud, et al, that's who. Ditto for the social media platforms...youtube rakes in billions...artists a few pennies. Sure, you can make it, if you can survie, over the long run it takes.
Instead of gatekeeper these industry cats out here playing GAYkeeper! 03:37 compartmentalized is the word you were looking for, agree a thousand percent on everything said here!
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And also, it takes us back to the dawn of time when music was just music. There was no profit or fame from it and artists just made music for the love of it. If you want money then go get a job. Music was never an avenue meant to make loads of money.
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0:40 what you said 🎉🎉🎉🎉
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You just need to know how to collect your royalties there’s multiple ways.
It's over. The monetary system is over. The FDR New Deal is over
Can you say more?
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You know what fat bruh I fw this video thanks for the convo
music is propaganda, price to pay is just a psyop
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Real talk man. Subbed.
I mentioned on another channel about
why it's so difficult to get into the music
world (I called that because you don't like
me using the word industry ) in the world
of sport if your good you make it , but
you could be a great songwriter and
never get a chance , so I would criticise
the people running it not the artists !
I write songs people like them but
you seem to walk down blind alleys .
I'm thinking of going to the far east .
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It's been this way since 2015
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this nga still got a cassete deck in his car and got a discman in his hip
I sure Do! I have 2004 G35 Coupe Manual 6 speed with the brembos! I'm old school! Yes it has a tape deck!
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had to sub up u talking that talk🫡🫡🫡
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ooww I watched this 1.25 times faster and i know its even harder
Good points
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Is this the couch shirt cushion guy that industry dam clowned
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REAL !
facts!
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I disagree we just made money on our own your right about streaming
Stay independent we make money off of vinyl, cassettes you have bandcamp
I know ppl get 100-150$ for vinyl overseas if you don’t understand the business of music you won’t make a profit #Stayindependent & make your own lane #fastdreams #blackrose coming soon
There never been money in the music industry for the artist, really think about it Jay-z and Dame didn't really make their money from Rocafella records; it was made in Rocawear, liquor deals, shoe deals etc. Music was use a marketing tool to sell their products, TV shows are the same that's why there is so many commercials. Netflix, Hulu, Amazon are pay content creator $100 of millions they recoup the money by trying to sell you product in commercials, the $5.99 menbership fee can barely cover them buying content.
UA-cam, TikTok, instagram accounts are the same, they were never really design for you to make money from your videos; it was design in a way for you to market your product.
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My guy, the "music industry" terminology is merely just a descriptor people use to define the business aspect of music-making. You're not meant to take it literally or try to conflate it with other industries that function very differently. If you simply type up "music industry definition" on Google it will tell you that "It's a market comprised of three main categories: live music, recording, and publishing" on one of the dropdown menus. By stating that the music industry is dying or thriving due to the performance in the market would be a fair thing to say.
So if you're someone who makes music for a living, you wouldn't be wrong to say that you work in the music industry no matter if you're working independently or with major studios. You're just overcomplicating the matter by stating that it's wrong. It's like me saying that purchasing a subscription on Netflix is technically not purchasing, because that would imply that you are acquiring (as in keep permanently) whatever you gain access to when in reality, it's a glorified rental service. Most people know this but they will still use the word anyway because that's just how it is.
I think you missed the point. I am referring to the changing of Hardware Distribution to Digital Distribution over the last two decades. It's way more money in Hard Disc Sells and in return more people gets to Eat off the Pie from Hard Disc Vs Digital. That's a real Industry. Everybody can Eat! That's Industry! Get People Paid!
@@maximusxxi Well I have no idea how they compare in terms of profit-making but I imagine both have their positives and negatives.
Perhaps selling physical units was a lot more lucrative than digital copies but the lack of convenience makes it impossible to go back to those old ways. I'm certain artists can still earn good money, especially since it's much more accessible to make music today than ever before.
In my opinion, the increase in competition is the most significant challenge for artists to gain recognition and revenue. Politics has also played a key role in the production process which may explain why the quality and outcome on all spectrums of music and other forms of entertainment has dwindled. But that's just my observation as a hobbyist as opposed to a professional who works in these fields.
Good info, video could of been way more concise though.
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Well they are making money from youtube videos and how much they make per view add that up with millions of views and all the videos they upload and it's a lot they make lol. I've noticed they keep deleting and re uploading songs once it reaches so many views too because i have to keep re-adding a few every few months to my playlists lol. That's how they make their money now it's all monetized and from live shows.
I need a solid answer though, if all ideas and genres have been done then what the heck are they going to do? lol because i don't see what else anyone can do with anything anymore. I think star trek got it right how it is in that world where they just throw themselves into their work, space exploration, and advancing new technology and science because what else is there?.
I think the future is going to go into holographic concerts like they're already doing with Abba and a few other past musicians just to give new generations distractions. I do sense everyone is trying to come up with new ideas right now but honestly as someone who likes something from every type of music i can't think of anything totally different anyone could do now. It doesn't matter if they use AI like what could it come up with that would be like nothing we've heard before?.
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music is not good for your mind body and soul anyway, don't do that
Sound like a hater and mad
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