motortrend is responsible in convincing me to purchase my 2012 mustang gt 3 years ago. no regrets. after 50,000 miles the pony is still running strong with no mechanical down time between multiple drag strip runs and road course duty.
I've always been an American muscle lover. When it came down to me buying my very first new muscle car I test drove them all. I agree with this video in that I had a hard time with visibility out of the camaro. The challenger was nice to drive but a bit too fat for me. The mustang felt great and I had fun driving it and happy to be owning one now! But nothing against the other two. Long live american muscle!
Coming back and watching this... Really glad I went with my 11 GT over the others.. Still am lost as to how on Gods green earth this guy picked the Challenger over the Camaro in terms of anything other than looks for 2nd place. If I had the $ I'd own all 3. Not a huge fan of the 15-17 models of any of these.
I'm a fan of all American Muscle Cars. I hate that Chev/Dodge/Ford fans bash each other when we should stick together against overpriced/overrated European/Ricer cars. I owned a 2005 Dodge Charger RT which I loved the looks (yes even if they fcked it up with 4 doors) but it felt too big and would have loved the SRT8. Then I bought a 96 Camaro Z28 which was very quick, had a mean sound but it felt like it was falling apart (rattling) and sometimes scary fishtailing around corners. I now own a 2005 Mustang GT with several mods and I love it although I'm currently having fuel pump issues. If you ask me I'd proudly take any of these 3 cars and love the fact that they have their own identity and looks. To each their own I say but I respect all 3 makes.
@@vaioskoutis7998 No, not all of us. I HATEed the inside of the Camaro, u can't see SH$T outside of the car while driving.....engine wise, great 6.2L V8.
Way to go Ford! This is one Mustang GT I would definitely own! It's not just the power the car is putting down, it's everything, looks, handling, braking, ride and interior!
If you want to choose a vehicle for its performance and low price, go with the Mustang. If you want to choose a vehicle for its Muscle car looks, go with the Challenger. If you want to choose a vehicle for it is intermediate performance and you have plenty of money to splurge, go with the Camaro.
Agreed, but in terms of knowledge now of the 3 cars' characteristics... The Hellcat would get embarrassed at everything but the 1/4 mile(and still not win by much), and the GT500 out lapped the ZL1 in terms of best overall lap, but the Camaro was better in terms of endurance/consistency over time. I like all 3, but those Challengers are pigs. I personally want to trade my GT for a GT500, waiting to see if they make one in 2018 or 19 before settling on a 350.
That was most definitely not the base model mustang. That GT had the brembo option and the special edition brown leather interior. I'm pretty sure all three of these were all the top of the line fully loaded cars.
At the end of the day it's all about liking the shape. And I just love the way Camaro looks. Drove all 3 ( + bmw coupe) before committed to buying. All drive beautiful.
+gage brai Now, it will require only YES or NO answer - if your favorite Camaro/Mustang/Challenger looked like Honda Element or Toyota Prius or Nissan Centra, would you buy it?
Ford finally stepped up, didn't overrate the hp numbers, and built a car we could all be proud of, I own a 2011' gt lots of mods, but something sexy about the passion purple challenger, lol, Btw, i only only buy black cars, lol, look better in the shade, shade..........
I got the black 2010 Camaro SS thing has been a tank all its life other than the god awful A/C system changes I had to do twice that cost $2000 every time.
@@FUBBATesla isn't really the same type of car though. It's faster in a straight line, but so are all sorts of Audis and BMWs. I think Teslas are cross-shopped more with those sort of tech-laden luxury/sport sedans rather than 2-door RWD muscle cars. It's just a different market.
@Taslak i didn't buy it simply for it's interior. I bought it for it's 6.2 ltr 420+ HP, 400 torque , body design and style. not to mention that the 69 was my favorite body style, and the 2010 completely retro'd and still stayed true to the classic style. i did however put in carbon fiber interior trim and with the standard limo lighting inside the doors, it is sweeeet!. And the reason there are more mustangs is because the Camaro wasn't made between the years 2002 and 2010.
@ Kasra Ghorbani Since when does a car that rips around the skid pad @ 0.92G (Avg) running 275 mm rear tires not have any grip? LOL. I drove this car and it has a ton of grip. A surprising amount actually.
Shouldnt the challenger r/t go against these? And the strt8 vs shelby gt500? The challenger rt is around this price range and the srt 8 is close to the shelby
@SOFSoldier1 the 392 isnt in the base v8 class? thats left to the boss 302 or shelby gt500 which both spank the 392 in every performance category especially handling.
I got a stock Mustang GT(300 HP) and I am looking for more power, my budget would be about 5-6 grand including work and parts. Anyone got any good ideas? I was told I would be better off with a supercharger due to my budget and that it would save much money on the labor. Any other upgrades that could give a few extra HP here and there? Appreciate all answers!
@JeffYaddow The general consensus is that the Camaro favored styling over ergonomics and functionality. It doesn't matter how tall you are since you can adjust the height of the seats, but the windows are just ridiculously narrow all around and the A-pillars are obnoxiously thick..just like the steering wheel.. If you have the power seats, your head will literally hit the roof in the Camaro if you're over 6'2ish, and that's with the seat all the way down.
@AutomotiveReviewers yeah camaros and mustangs are subcompact with the mustang slightly larger than the camaro (6'ers can actually sit in the rear seat), the camaros are decorations, and the challenger is just down right comfy in the srt8 version
@skribbal This video is from April 5, 2010, shortly after the 2011 Mustang was released, while the 2011 SRT8 was only announced in October-November of 2010, so there is no way it could've been the 2011 Challenger SRT8.
I own an srt8 charger and this week i drove a manual coupe mustang, and a automatic convertible mustang.. im thinking on buyin one convertible, but... it doesnt corner as well as the srt8, it moves alot in the corners..
The way I see it, for the most part cars are just getting better and better. The difference that this video shows are not what most people would not care about. It boils down to preference.
Wow, what a shock - I saw this review and before I watched it I knew what would win - the Ford. Why? It is the newest redesigned car. In the last match up when it was not redesigned, it lost. now it won. What a shock!
@GTO19020 Where am I wrong? from 87-92 the 5.0L was rated at 225hp. What kind of power do you think the Camaro was making at that time? The high points for the Camaro were 230hp with the 305 and 245 for the 350 (89-92). The 350 was auto only and it was heavier so it was still slower than the Mustang even though it had less power. With the extra weight, the 305 wasn't in the running even with the available 5 speed. BTW, the '11 Mustang makes less power but is STILL faster than the '11 Camaro.
@suntannedmedal the R/T has a 5.7 hemi, which only makes 370 hp. but i see what you're saying. they did some stuff to the 2012 dodge charger srt8 that may out perform the challenger.
@GTO19020 Oh, or better yet, why is a Lotus Exige faster than the Camaro and Challenger (barely slower than the Mustang) but it has "only" 220hp? (they run in the 12.80 range in the 1/4 mile).
@Shadowtail03 lol you're great. You can't even read. I merely said the Mustangs have outsold the CAMAROS since the late 90s, excluding the years the Camaro was not in production after 2002. Where you got Challenger from is beyond me. Yes the first generation Challengers ended production in '74. All i did was state a fact and you go off on me. I also like how you think I'm a kid.
Yeah baby. 2011 mustang gt 5.0 I bought this model. 1st time I saw it at convention center i wanted it especially 5.0 All in all thank you America for The Gts , SRT8s. & SS made here in AMERICA
@MIA7Xthies i agree, but it still has great straight line speed. and it has a full size rear seat, which is important to me since i'm always giving friends rides in my car. dodge seriously needs to drop that weight though
It's amazing what cars do now. We all figured the glory days were gone after the early 70s. I remember a guy boasting his 1978 Plymouth Arrow went 70 in the quarter!
Can we just be happy that there are muscle cars for the modern age? Who cares about what company made them these are ALL great cars; I like all three and it's nice to have them compete each other year after year to see if any one can outdo the other. Don't forget to have fun!
wow, anecdotal story, that totally mean much more than a comparison test, especially on a highway where the driver's willingness to be stupid matters much more than the car's dynamics. The other day I passed a genesis coupe in my old focus, WITH WINTER TIRES, so that must mean it's better.
The 2011+ Mustang GT actually puts more power to the wheels than the Camaro SS, stock vs stock. With that and the weight difference, no wonder it's faster.
The real test will be the comparison between the 2013 GT 500 and the Camaro ZL1. I think the mustang might win straight line but may suffer from a solid rear axle on a track. Guess we will see. Not sure why ford doesn't go to independent rear axle. seems like a solid decision.
@JeffYaddow For the 2010 Camaro, KBB says 4.6/5 from 141 ratings.. I never said it was a family car. It's just not that functional for the DRIVER. Are you saying that the windows aren't extremely narrow, that the a-pillars aren't obnoxiously thick, and that the steering wheel isn't fat? Being able to see out of the car easily is important, especially for a "cruiser". My friend is 6'4 and his head was literally up against the ceiling of the car, even with the power seat all the way down.
@17etnies have you searched about camaro and challenger problems too. if i take your comprehensive research then i assume that every car other than the mustang works flawlessly
@AutomotiveReviewers there is man, there is, but not many new ones. the new mustangs are sick and theres no denying it. i wanted a camaro, but the ambient lighting and cheap price for v8 is unbeatable
You are correct. Mine is so heavy Aprox. 5000 lbs. that l consider it more Luxury than performance.That's also because of the Daimler-Chrysler merger. Trans=NAG1 & WA 580. Mercedes trans & suspension.
Boss 302 is in a higher class than the SRT8, but in an ideal race the Boss 302 would win. BUT, only by .1 seconds. Boss 302 stats: 0-60 in 4.2, quarter mile in 12.6 Challenger SRT8 stats: 0-60 in 4.6, quarter mile in 12.7. It may be big and heavy and slower off the line, but that 6.4L V8 with 470lb-ft of torque sure as hell helps! :P I'm a Mustang guy myself, but I gotta admit, the new SRT8 is the new big kid on the block! :P
Oh and you should google the mustangs power rating or read edmands inside line. The new 5.0 is heavily underrated. It's actually about 450-460 at the crank. Insideline dyno'd there's at 394rwhp and 379tq. Mine dyno'd in Oregon, elevation 236. @ 404rwhp and 391tq
Ideally yes, but if you notice, the mustang GT had a brembo brake package and I hope so would the Camaro SS. Since may be the upgraded package is not available in the Chally R/T, they picked the SRT8. Also I believe R/T makes only 375 HP ( with Tremec 6 spd) and Mustang and Camaro makes 410+ HP so that would not be a fair comparo. SRT8 makes 425 HP. However, I would prefer a R/T coz you can still get that good Tremec manual and 395 LBFT of torque to get you quicker off the line, good price too
motortrend is responsible in convincing me to purchase my 2012 mustang gt 3 years ago. no regrets. after 50,000 miles the pony is still running strong with no mechanical down time between multiple drag strip runs and road course duty.
I've always been an American muscle lover. When it came down to me buying my very first new muscle car I test drove them all. I agree with this video in that I had a hard time with visibility out of the camaro. The challenger was nice to drive but a bit too fat for me. The mustang felt great and I had fun driving it and happy to be owning one now! But nothing against the other two. Long live american muscle!
Doug Vandegrift camaro and mustangs are PONY cars. And challenger is a muscle car.
And adult wow nice too see I work for Chevrolet and drive a mustang you can imagine how that goes for me lol 😂
Coming back and watching this... Really glad I went with my 11 GT over the others.. Still am lost as to how on Gods green earth this guy picked the Challenger over the Camaro in terms of anything other than looks for 2nd place. If I had the $ I'd own all 3. Not a huge fan of the 15-17 models of any of these.
I'm a fan of all American Muscle Cars. I hate that Chev/Dodge/Ford fans bash each other when we should stick together against overpriced/overrated European/Ricer cars. I owned a 2005 Dodge Charger RT which I loved the looks (yes even if they fcked it up with 4 doors) but it felt too big and would have loved the SRT8. Then I bought a 96 Camaro Z28 which was very quick, had a mean sound but it felt like it was falling apart (rattling) and sometimes scary fishtailing around corners. I now own a 2005 Mustang GT with several mods and I love it although I'm currently having fuel pump issues. If you ask me I'd proudly take any of these 3 cars and love the fact that they have their own identity and looks. To each their own I say but I respect all 3 makes.
word brother!
4 doors suck
JF F all of these cars are great
In order I would go...Ford Mustang GT 5.0, Chevy Camaro SS, then the Dodge Challenger SRT8
wouldnt we all....
@@vaioskoutis7998 No, not all of us. I HATEed the inside of the Camaro, u can't see SH$T outside of the car while driving.....engine wise, great 6.2L V8.
Ford is climbing back to the top, where it belongs. Amazing performance out of all 3 cars though.
Thought I’d bring you back to this video 12 years later
Way to go Ford! This is one Mustang GT I would definitely own! It's not just the power the car is putting down, it's everything, looks, handling, braking, ride and interior!
In here from the future, just wanted to say nice thumbnail bro !
Still enjoy my 2011 GT. It was a tough choice between the Challenger, but in the end the Mustang won out for me.
If you want to choose a vehicle for its performance and low price, go with the Mustang.
If you want to choose a vehicle for its Muscle car looks, go with the Challenger.
If you want to choose a vehicle for it is intermediate performance and you have plenty of money to splurge, go with the Camaro.
Raul Martinez agreed
That 5.0 owns
I just bought a 2012 5.0 mustang... And it is bad to the bone lol
2014 Camaro ZL1 vs 2014 Shelby GT500 vs 2015 Challenger Hellcat. Now that would be one hell of a comparison.
Agreed, but in terms of knowledge now of the 3 cars' characteristics... The Hellcat would get embarrassed at everything but the 1/4 mile(and still not win by much), and the GT500 out lapped the ZL1 in terms of best overall lap, but the Camaro was better in terms of endurance/consistency over time. I like all 3, but those Challengers are pigs. I personally want to trade my GT for a GT500, waiting to see if they make one in 2018 or 19 before settling on a 350.
Kjraider2009 the camaro beats it on the track but on a drag strip the gt500 beats it cause of the light axle.
challenger has the best exhaust note hands down
wow, 14 yrs ago... wonder how it woulda looked in the 23's? betting about the same- we know who wins the 24 already though :(
5.0 has been king since 2010. Its 2024 and it's still unmatched 😎
The engine sound that Challenger creates is just incredible!!!
That Ford is a Flat Out Road Demon.
it makes me laugh when the most expensive challenger cant even beat the base model mustang, and barely keep up with the camaro lol its funny
That was most definitely not the base model mustang. That GT had the brembo option and the special edition brown leather interior. I'm pretty sure all three of these were all the top of the line fully loaded cars.
Derek Butler luxury doesn’t count. The camaro can still beat it easy.
Oh how have the times changed lol
All the cars where the fully loaded option
At the end of the day it's all about liking the shape. And I just love the way Camaro looks. Drove all 3 ( + bmw coupe) before committed to buying. All drive beautiful.
"at the end of the day it's all about the shape" ? I highly disagree, but I guess to some people that's more important
+gage brai Now, it will require only YES or NO answer - if your favorite Camaro/Mustang/Challenger looked like Honda Element or Toyota Prius or Nissan Centra, would you buy it?
No question is ever a yes or no answer.my answer is : you put a coyote 302 in it, I'll drive it.
The 5.0L mustang is the best but the challenger needs more credit but they need to lower the price. Thats the old 6.1l the 6.4l is faster.
Ford Mustang is my choise.
It’s my choize as well
adrian m8 It’s my choithe too
@@GyroPyro121212 rosetta stone is your choice
Ford finally stepped up, didn't overrate the hp numbers, and built a car we could all be proud of, I own a 2011' gt lots of mods, but something sexy about the passion purple challenger, lol, Btw, i only only buy black cars, lol, look better in the shade, shade..........
I just bought a black 2011 GT CS, with only 33,000 km, Roush axle back and CAI :) I get it on Saturday , can't wait .
I got the black 2010 Camaro SS thing has been a tank all its life other than the god awful A/C system changes I had to do twice that cost $2000 every time.
can you tell me how? the mustang has the best 0-60 time and 1/4 mile stops and turns the best ..and the best mpg oh and to top it off it cost less ?
Mustang quit playing in 2011 👀
Since 2011 the Mustang has been unbeatable.
Zelmar Hernandez More like since forever lol
Then Tesla entered the chat
@@FUBBATesla isn't really the same type of car though. It's faster in a straight line, but so are all sorts of Audis and BMWs. I think Teslas are cross-shopped more with those sort of tech-laden luxury/sport sedans rather than 2-door RWD muscle cars. It's just a different market.
My car right there the 2011 5.0 :)
Why the hell is a Challenger in the "Pony Car War?"
:/
Good question.
Dodge makes me smile, chevy makes me frown, and ford.... well the're like heaven on earth, what can I say?
i will take any of them! im really still shocked that we are watchin these 3 400+horsepower cars together again!
I like challenger better than all of them
It's to heavy, you should write a letter.
El mustang es mi auto favorito
@Taslak i didn't buy it simply for it's interior. I bought it for it's 6.2 ltr 420+ HP, 400 torque , body design and style. not to mention that the 69 was my favorite body style, and the 2010 completely retro'd and still stayed true to the classic style. i did however put in carbon fiber interior trim and with the standard limo lighting inside the doors, it is sweeeet!. And the reason there are more mustangs is because the Camaro wasn't made between the years 2002 and 2010.
I too was a Dodge Fanboy until I test drove the Challenger SRT8 and the Mustang 5.0....I just picked up my 2012 5.0 and LOVE IT!!!
@ Kasra Ghorbani
Since when does a car that rips around the skid pad @ 0.92G (Avg) running 275 mm rear tires not have any grip? LOL. I drove this car and it has a ton of grip. A surprising amount actually.
Hey can you compare the Viper, corvette and the new Thunderbird or GT, thanks!!
@Skatchwanguyz what are the drawbacks? high performance? affordability? great mpg?
Im a stang guy but that burnout of the Challenger looks so badass!
Beast sound from the Challenger!
@geedee3 ok i agree with that..but if it was your money would you spent more money on a worse car ? or less money on a better car?
does the charger srt8 have a chance with any of these 3 cars? because its never compared with the 3...
MotorTrend drivers are superior to any other magazine's drivers. You guys rule.
Shouldnt the challenger r/t go against these? And the strt8 vs shelby gt500? The challenger rt is around this price range and the srt 8 is close to the shelby
@OutInTheRain1 What does the metric system have to do with smaller engines?
Just got a challenger srt8 for 16th birthday present, has everything a kid could ever want
@SOFSoldier1 the 392 isnt in the base v8 class? thats left to the boss 302 or shelby gt500 which both spank the 392 in every performance category especially handling.
@Nismokid1211 Zl1 you mean.... and whats that have to do with the SS spanking?
I got a stock Mustang GT(300 HP) and I am looking for more power, my budget would be about 5-6 grand including work and parts. Anyone got any good ideas? I was told I would be better off with a supercharger due to my budget and that it would save much money on the labor. Any other upgrades that could give a few extra HP here and there? Appreciate all answers!
@JeffYaddow The general consensus is that the Camaro favored styling over ergonomics and functionality. It doesn't matter how tall you are since you can adjust the height of the seats, but the windows are just ridiculously narrow all around and the A-pillars are obnoxiously thick..just like the steering wheel.. If you have the power seats, your head will literally hit the roof in the Camaro if you're over 6'2ish, and that's with the seat all the way down.
@starwarsfanforlife getting one as a everyday car or a sunday driver?
@AutomotiveReviewers yeah camaros and mustangs are subcompact with the mustang slightly larger than the camaro (6'ers can actually sit in the rear seat), the camaros are decorations, and the challenger is just down right comfy in the srt8 version
@1jamers you do know that that ZL1 is what the Z28 was going to be correct? just fyi
@W4TCH4W Thanks for the feedback, yeah I will look into some superchargers
Doesnt the Camero have more weight to it? While the Mustang is lighter or am i wrong? I dont know anything about Mustangs
@skribbal This video is from April 5, 2010, shortly after the 2011 Mustang was released, while the 2011 SRT8 was only announced in October-November of 2010, so there is no way it could've been the 2011 Challenger SRT8.
I own an srt8 charger and this week i drove a manual coupe mustang, and a automatic convertible mustang.. im thinking on buyin one convertible, but... it doesnt corner as well as the srt8, it moves alot in the corners..
@blueduster74 same goes for the hemi too with the vvt and mds. not sure what GM is doing with the LS these days.
When the Challenger did the burnout test, its engine sounded the baddest...like a mean ass monster. DODGE IS A BEAST!
so whats the update for the 2013 pony cars? GT,SS, SRT etc
are does tires are cheap? because they are using them like they were free
The way I see it, for the most part cars are just getting better and better. The difference that this video shows are not what most people would not care about. It boils down to preference.
Wow, what a shock - I saw this review and before I watched it I knew what would win - the Ford. Why? It is the newest redesigned car. In the last match up when it was not redesigned, it lost. now it won. What a shock!
@GTO19020
Where am I wrong? from 87-92 the 5.0L was rated at 225hp. What kind of power do you think the Camaro was making at that time? The high points for the Camaro were 230hp with the 305 and 245 for the 350 (89-92). The 350 was auto only and it was heavier so it was still slower than the Mustang even though it had less power. With the extra weight, the 305 wasn't in the running even with the available 5 speed.
BTW, the '11 Mustang makes less power but is STILL faster than the '11 Camaro.
@Naughtorios and what about the 1 hp extra on the chevy ? :D
that true but how often will you take it to a track?
@paddypradeep007 Where did you hear that Top Hear? They put down 450 at the wheels thats more than 500bhp.
@suntannedmedal the R/T has a 5.7 hemi, which only makes 370 hp. but i see what you're saying. they did some stuff to the 2012 dodge charger srt8 that may out perform the challenger.
someone tell me how to smoke the tyres, does it need a limit locker ?
@GTO19020
Oh, or better yet, why is a Lotus Exige faster than the Camaro and Challenger (barely slower than the Mustang) but it has "only" 220hp? (they run in the 12.80 range in the 1/4 mile).
Wonder why they haven't done a 2012 or now 2013 Pony car wars comparison yet. I would love for them to do this every year.
2011 Ford vs 2010 GM and Challenger????
something is wrong!!!!!
I love my HEMI!!!
@Shadowtail03 lol you're great. You can't even read. I merely said the Mustangs have outsold the CAMAROS since the late 90s, excluding the years the Camaro was not in production after 2002. Where you got Challenger from is beyond me. Yes the first generation Challengers ended production in '74. All i did was state a fact and you go off on me. I also like how you think I'm a kid.
@AutomotiveReviewers The newer ones yes but the Z28 from the second generation... that was truly a real muscle car!
Yeah baby. 2011 mustang gt 5.0
I bought this model. 1st time I saw it at convention center i wanted it especially 5.0
All in all thank you America for The Gts , SRT8s. & SS made here in AMERICA
The 2010-14 Camaro SS was made in Oshawa, Canada so technically you are not wrong. Same with Challenger / Charger I believe.
@MIA7Xthies i agree, but it still has great straight line speed. and it has a full size rear seat, which is important to me since i'm always giving friends rides in my car. dodge seriously needs to drop that weight though
@AutomotiveReviewers thank you... mustangs are everywhere now!
@Blizzck211 well if your gonna put the 302 boss against the challenger then put it up agains the 392 hemi and see who crosses the line first.
@goofydog2 the chally is actually made in ontario, i believe. brampton??
@Perksk8 lets hope the new 5.0 isn't more fragile for all the extra parts that requires.
It's amazing what cars do now. We all figured the glory days were gone after the early 70s. I remember a guy boasting his 1978 Plymouth Arrow went 70 in the quarter!
This video is 100 % true. I respect camaros, but would not wanna own one. I would like a challenger but ford mustang wins me over
@Drewtitus ... stock exhaust. First thing i'd do is put some flow masters on
Can we just be happy that there are muscle cars for the modern age? Who cares about what company made them these are ALL great cars; I like all three and it's nice to have them compete each other year after year to see if any one can outdo the other. Don't forget to have fun!
wow, anecdotal story, that totally mean much more than a comparison test, especially on a highway where the driver's willingness to be stupid matters much more than the car's dynamics.
The other day I passed a genesis coupe in my old focus, WITH WINTER TIRES, so that must mean it's better.
What nobody realizes is that these new 5.0s are making not even 10 less hp than a camaro ss which is a liter bigger and also is 200 lbs heavier
The 2011+ Mustang GT actually puts more power to the wheels than the Camaro SS, stock vs stock. With that and the weight difference, no wonder it's faster.
The real test will be the comparison between the 2013 GT 500 and the Camaro ZL1. I think the mustang might win straight line but may suffer from a solid rear axle on a track. Guess we will see. Not sure why ford doesn't go to independent rear axle. seems like a solid decision.
@wyrazowfkp Actually the statistics I posted were from a fuel consumption guide where all of the vehicles were tested in everyday driving
@JeffYaddow For the 2010 Camaro, KBB says 4.6/5 from 141 ratings..
I never said it was a family car. It's just not that functional for the DRIVER. Are you saying that the windows aren't extremely narrow, that the a-pillars aren't obnoxiously thick, and that the steering wheel isn't fat? Being able to see out of the car easily is important, especially for a "cruiser". My friend is 6'4 and his head was literally up against the ceiling of the car, even with the power seat all the way down.
@17etnies have you searched about camaro and challenger problems too. if i take your comprehensive research then i assume that every car other than the mustang works flawlessly
@AutomotiveReviewers there is man, there is, but not many new ones. the new mustangs are sick and theres no denying it. i wanted a camaro, but the ambient lighting and cheap price for v8 is unbeatable
You are correct. Mine is so heavy Aprox. 5000 lbs. that l consider it more Luxury than performance.That's also because of the Daimler-Chrysler merger. Trans=NAG1 & WA 580. Mercedes trans & suspension.
@proviperson The SRT8 IS the 392. It's called the "SRT8 392". They don't mention 392 because it's like repeating it.
Boss 302 is in a higher class than the SRT8, but in an ideal race the Boss 302 would win. BUT, only by .1 seconds. Boss 302 stats: 0-60 in 4.2, quarter mile in 12.6 Challenger SRT8 stats: 0-60 in 4.6, quarter mile in 12.7. It may be big and heavy and slower off the line, but that 6.4L V8 with 470lb-ft of torque sure as hell helps! :P I'm a Mustang guy myself, but I gotta admit, the new SRT8 is the new big kid on the block! :P
Oh and you should google the mustangs power rating or read edmands inside line. The new 5.0 is heavily underrated. It's actually about 450-460 at the crank. Insideline dyno'd there's at 394rwhp and 379tq. Mine dyno'd in Oregon, elevation 236. @ 404rwhp and 391tq
@MrOfcFriendly i am a mustang fanboy, but i do have to agree with you. You look like a boss when you're behind the wheel.
@JeffYaddow im 5' 11'' so yeah. and im not talking about the back seats im talking about the front
say what you will about the challenger, and it's general lack of qualiy and polish compared to the other two, but by god it looks unbelievably cool.
Ideally yes, but if you notice, the mustang GT had a brembo brake package and I hope so would the Camaro SS. Since may be the upgraded package is not available in the Chally R/T, they picked the SRT8. Also I believe R/T makes only 375 HP ( with Tremec 6 spd) and Mustang and Camaro makes 410+ HP so that would not be a fair comparo. SRT8 makes 425 HP. However, I would prefer a R/T coz you can still get that good Tremec manual and 395 LBFT of torque to get you quicker off the line, good price too
Why is the gt and ss being compared to the srt8? I guess 5.0 and ss have to take on the r/t (which is suposed to be their rival) and the srt8 as well
I own Genesis Coupe V6, but that Mustang V8 sure looks awesome. I'll definitely consider it for my next car.
hey motortrend wheres the part about the mustangs transmission problems, engine knocking, speed limiters, and driveshaft failures?