The thing about Thrawn is that he's the first (and in my opinion best) time someone said "What if this Star Wars villain isn't a Sith or grotesquely evil? What if their only powers are being very smart and charismatic?"
Semi charismatic anyways, he's very multifaceted. But his main two traits are, being a tactical genius or amazing leader and being completely politically and at times socially inept.
BIG props for doing what so many other channels don't bother to on their compilations of old videos, and removing the intros/outros that just break the flow with dated channel updates/housekeeping stuff or the redundant "this is the last video on this topic I think" before the next 4 videos they did on said topic. lol The extra effort in editing is noticed, and appreciated.
We have a border collie mix named Thrawn. I've had him since he was a puppy, and he's super sweet and smart. I named him Thrawn because I really like the character, and i thought it would be funny to be able to say, "Thrawn, get your butt over here!" and not have stormtrooper blasters pointed in my face.
Basically, if put in a character that has all the qualities of Sun Tzu, Hannibal, Napoleon (his Marshals took tons of art from Spain as trophies that understood their culture), and hints of the aggressive blitzkrieg tactics of Germany's Heinz Guderian, you have a very dangerous military leader that becomes a huge anomaly to the broad Star Wars background that has always thrive on luck based on plot armor versus any combat "military science" common sense.
@@SolidAvenger1290 I always viewed him as more of a Rommel type man: genius, charismatic, and even heroic, but politically and socially inept. A true warrior, a "magnificent bastard" as Patton dubbed him, but not someone who agrees with the main line of his government, politically or philosophically. Rommel was a German, not a Nazi nor a member of the Nazi Party; his family were held hostage to ensure his compliance which is why he committed suicide at the end of the war. Once he was dead, his family had no value to anyone and wouldn't be punished because his "shame" died with him.
@@robertphillips213 Disagree; Rommel was a sound tactician, but a terrible strategist. The Guderian comparison fits better, since he was superior to Rommel in basically every regard, while also having a strong dislike for politics. Plus Guderian was without a doubt one of the main architects of modern tank warfare/Blitzkrieg, similar to Thrawn, who revolutionized the usage of SD and smaller vessels in combined warfare.
@@vahlen5281 Point conceded, you are correct. Guderian is more apt. I just wish the Rebels had a Patton counterpart. Or maybe the Mandalorians. Yeah, the Mandalorians REALLY needed a Patton in that era.
Disney loves subverting expectations though, so maybe they will turn Thrawn into a cartoonish evil with lots of Empire resources throwing lives away while smoldering out one liners, like "Evicerate them!". Like a Hux 2.0. I hope I am wrong.
Canon Thrawn is already a whole other personality than he was in Legends. In fact in canon there's a further 2 personalities depending on if it's a TV show or a book because of how the different writers view him as either antagonist or anti-hero.
@@DatAsunamore like just different point of views. For rebels you have the perspective of a rebel so the empire and their leaders are going to be the bad guys. But in the books you have the perspective of the empire so what the empire would seem better
I understand how we need for Thrawn to be the big baddie in this story, but, I was kind of hoping that we were going to experience Thrawn also facing another adversary... in the form of a competitor. I believe that would also allow for this show to be a completely separate and more complex story than just simply trying to create a path towards the Sequel Trilogy or rewrite the Zahn Trilogy.
I have to say that I love the Thrawn novels new and original. I have the Heir to the Empire trilogy, both of The hand of Thrawn, all of the Chist ascendancy and the 3 newer Thrawn novels in audiobook. I have been a big Thrawn fan for a long time and I was so happy to see him in the Rebels animated series. I can't wait to see how he is in the Ashoka series. It makes me wonder how things would have gone if he was alive during the Yuzong Vong battles. With his mind he would have been a lot of help against the Yuzong Vong.
The Thrawn ascendency trilogy by Timothy Zahn are a must read. I read them before the trilogy where he enters the Stars Wars universe. The Ascendency books are important because they start when he was Just entering the Chiss military on his home world and they follow him through the ranks and through amazing battles (again, before he enters the Star Wars universe). He is truly a mastermind and I love following how his mind works and how he uncovers information. Very much like Sherlock Holmes and def. Doesn’t seem like a “bad guy” in those books! I highly recommend reading the Thrawn Ascendency books first to learn all about his background then move on to the books where he enters the Star Wars universe.Note: small spoiler, he does accidentally come into contact with a young Anikan in book one of the Ascendency series!!
My Only complaint is... at the start you said he is the greatest military mind in all of star wars history... but you should have said of all star wars histories! xD gj love the video
Thrawn my all time favorite star wars character all his books are great. The only nonhuman to join the empire and rise to the top that should tell you all you need to know about him. I do kind hate how they took him out tho.
Thrown getting access to an X e q ter class would have been a mind blower for most of his enemies. Look at what he was able to do with smaller vessels. They would not be able to comprehend his capabilities with that kind of firepower. All he would have to do is show up. Instant surrender.
The best summary is Rebels collective reaction to Thrawn being unveiled as their enemy... Karabast! Thats as close to "oh, shit!" as you can get in kids friendly show....
Can you talk about Darth Sion for those who aren't familiar with legends and those of us who would just love a recap of the character? Loved the the "Eye of Sion" bearing his name
@@CouncilCape897 I'm personally well versed in his lore, my comment was more for Eck to capitalize on the influx of the more, and I don't mean this in a derogatory sense, casual fans who wont understand the reference. I will have to check out that channel though as I haven't watched any of their stuff.
@@MemesOfProduction69 Ah, my bad. Then I hope you like what the other channel has to share. He mainly focuses on Old Republic Era lore, as he's admitted he isn't particularly well-versed in post-ROTJ storytelling, but I'm confident it'll be worth your time. And don't worry about the term "casual fan". While there are no defined parameters that objectively determine who's who, I haven't met anyone offended by it. As far as I know, it's generally accepted by all. I personally think it's somewhat generous.
I don’t get why the had to make him fat in Asoka. He was very fit in the books and in rebels. Thrawn even states the importance of staying fit, “The mind and body are linked together in a meshwork of oxygen, nutrients, hormones, and neuron health. Physical exercise drives that meshwork, stimulating the brain and freeing one’s intellect.” Asoka also does a poor job of showing how intellectual Thrawn is as it doesn’t show him doing much on his own.
Everytime I hear about the story of the Thrawn Clone I get sad, the guy literally didn't do anything yet, but he still died for no reason, F. you Jade and Skywalker
I love these videos, but some of your info is off. The journey by Luke and Mara to the Hand of Thrawn was in 19aby, not 10ABY. Remember, Leia’s twins were tweens by this time. It wasn’t “exactly 10 years after Thrawn’s assassination”. Also, as much damage as Disney did with the sequels, they didn’t de-canonize the EU. Under Lucas, his only Canon was his movies, the Clone Wars, and the animated movie that went with the Clone Wars. The books that complimented his movies, comics, novels, and games were all EU or Extended Universe. This is what Lucas told Disney, and they just called EU Legends. This is a very common misconception amongst these channels.
@@JJJBunney001 they are not Thrawn in the EU is a tactical genius. He represents intelligence, patience, and clairvoyance. This new Thrawn in Disney Canon is a Scooby-Doo character. Gets out smarted by a child all the time (in rebels)? He makes tactical mistakes that make no sense. Send two tie fighters? Really only two? Spends years in the same area as Ezra and doesn't take him out that whole time? Just lets that threat fester? Somebody said Disney's Star Wars Thrawn is like what a stupid person thinks a smart man is. That's basically the perfect analog for him. In the books, you are introduced to him as a genius almost immediately. You understand that he can analyze a species art to figure out their weakness and then exploit that weakness to devastating effect. He doesn't just throw forces away when the situation is turning sour for him. Think the end of Heir to the Empire. In the TV show and to a lesser extent the cartoon, he's a clown who just tosses his forces away like any other imperial without thinking. The way we're introduced to him is so comical a bunch of stormtroopers chanting his name. That doesn't set up his tactical genius, why he's a big threat, anything about him. If you didn't know who this guy was, you wouldn't be very impressed with him compared to how he was introduced in the first book.
@@felps_4500 Then you have to make it your personal choice. Pick one John ra to be cannon the movies or the animated series. Since they contradict in the rules of the universe, you can only have one.
If the Disney products were any good, I would be okay with the decaonization of the EU. However, most of the stuff they've released (the movies especially) were garbage.
@@Dendricklystablehow can you a be a fan, which is short for fanatic, if you don't keep up with what Lucasfilm has put out since 2019? There aren't any movies coming out that's for sure...
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The thing about Thrawn is that he's the first (and in my opinion best) time someone said "What if this Star Wars villain isn't a Sith or grotesquely evil? What if their only powers are being very smart and charismatic?"
Semi charismatic anyways, he's very multifaceted. But his main two traits are, being a tactical genius or amazing leader and being completely politically and at times socially inept.
Boba fett is not a sith, nor he is grotesquely evil
@@А280-г3мtrue but he isn't really a villain but an antagonist
@wsmiles8677 Legends Thrawn was extremely politically astute, and even was able to engineer his "exile". In Canon is where he can't get politics
Thrawn is arguably evil, he just isn’t evil in the way sith is, imps still serve an evil empire
BIG props for doing what so many other channels don't bother to on their compilations of old videos, and removing the intros/outros that just break the flow with dated channel updates/housekeeping stuff or the redundant "this is the last video on this topic I think" before the next 4 videos they did on said topic. lol The extra effort in editing is noticed, and appreciated.
Thrawn made the star wars galaxy lore sooo much better! Timothy Zhan really nailed it and led to the creation of so many books we later got.
We have a border collie mix named Thrawn. I've had him since he was a puppy, and he's super sweet and smart. I named him Thrawn because I really like the character, and i thought it would be funny to be able to say, "Thrawn, get your butt over here!" and not have stormtrooper blasters pointed in my face.
When I get a dog, i will name him Grogu. But now I will need a second dog to call him Thrawn as well
aww that's so cute!
I know what I’m doing for the next 2 hours.
Bro yes literally just thought that
Me watching at double speed just relaxing as I pack for college
Your mom
Got the lotion and the tissue ready. 😂😂😂😂😂
Cooking chicken?
Finally some good fucking Thrawn content.
The video no one asked for, but all needed!
This is about to be some of the best two hours of my life
This is something I was waiting for. He's so interesting
This raises a question for me, does the Peridea galaxy have as many habitable planets and alien species as the known galaxy?
the real obi wan?
Perhaps the yalarslami
I don't have a preference, but they better not say Yoda came from there
Maybe earth is in it, we call the milkyway, they might call it something diffrent like Peridea
@@thelazarouswhy not?
Bro casually uploading 2 hour video is perfect to sit back, relax and grab some snacks
I’m here for this, what a legend.
Grand admiral thrawn is like if you took a competent military leader from the real world and dropped him in star wars.
Basically, if put in a character that has all the qualities of Sun Tzu, Hannibal, Napoleon (his Marshals took tons of art from Spain as trophies that understood their culture), and hints of the aggressive blitzkrieg tactics of Germany's Heinz Guderian, you have a very dangerous military leader that becomes a huge anomaly to the broad Star Wars background that has always thrive on luck based on plot armor versus any combat "military science" common sense.
@@SolidAvenger1290 I always viewed him as more of a Rommel type man: genius, charismatic, and even heroic, but politically and socially inept. A true warrior, a "magnificent bastard" as Patton dubbed him, but not someone who agrees with the main line of his government, politically or philosophically. Rommel was a German, not a Nazi nor a member of the Nazi Party; his family were held hostage to ensure his compliance which is why he committed suicide at the end of the war. Once he was dead, his family had no value to anyone and wouldn't be punished because his "shame" died with him.
@@robertphillips213 thx didn't know , then Thrawn is like Rommel, good explanation
@@robertphillips213 Disagree; Rommel was a sound tactician, but a terrible strategist. The Guderian comparison fits better, since he was superior to Rommel in basically every regard, while also having a strong dislike for politics. Plus Guderian was without a doubt one of the main architects of modern tank warfare/Blitzkrieg, similar to Thrawn, who revolutionized the usage of SD and smaller vessels in combined warfare.
@@vahlen5281 Point conceded, you are correct. Guderian is more apt. I just wish the Rebels had a Patton counterpart. Or maybe the Mandalorians. Yeah, the Mandalorians REALLY needed a Patton in that era.
My favorite UA-camr covering my favorite legends character?!
Love the notification when I see a new lore video from him
I've been looking forward to this
Enjoyed!! Thank You
Disney loves subverting expectations though, so maybe they will turn Thrawn into a cartoonish evil with lots of Empire resources throwing lives away while smoldering out one liners, like "Evicerate them!". Like a Hux 2.0. I hope I am wrong.
Canon Thrawn is already a whole other personality than he was in Legends. In fact in canon there's a further 2 personalities depending on if it's a TV show or a book because of how the different writers view him as either antagonist or anti-hero.
😮😊😅😅😅
@@DatAsunamore like just different point of views. For rebels you have the perspective of a rebel so the empire and their leaders are going to be the bad guys. But in the books you have the perspective of the empire so what the empire would seem better
@@shadowwolf8496 the empire seemed better?? Uh oh 😟 imp apologist?
@@shadowwolf8496agreed! Also every time he is tactically dumb in Rebels, I write it off as he did it on purpose, for a greater payoff down the line
Imma inject this right into my veins
It is out, and so far, I am enjoying this!
*sigh*
>clears calendar and makes popcorn 🍿
Good stuff 👍
This just reminded me of how much I played Tie Fighter. I thought Thrawn was a fascinating character from word one.
Long live the Empire!
I understand how we need for Thrawn to be the big baddie in this story, but, I was kind of hoping that we were going to experience Thrawn also facing another adversary... in the form of a competitor. I believe that would also allow for this show to be a completely separate and more complex story than just simply trying to create a path towards the Sequel Trilogy or rewrite the Zahn Trilogy.
I have to say that I love the Thrawn novels new and original. I have the Heir to the Empire trilogy, both of The hand of Thrawn, all of the Chist ascendancy and the 3 newer Thrawn novels in audiobook. I have been a big Thrawn fan for a long time and I was so happy to see him in the Rebels animated series. I can't wait to see how he is in the Ashoka series. It makes me wonder how things would have gone if he was alive during the Yuzong Vong battles. With his mind he would have been a lot of help against the Yuzong Vong.
Will you ever do a witch faction had the best (blank) video again I loved those videos
Thank you Eck
The Thrawn ascendency trilogy by Timothy Zahn are a must read. I read them before the trilogy where he enters the Stars Wars universe. The Ascendency books are important because they start when he was
Just entering the Chiss military on his home world and they follow him through the ranks and through amazing battles (again, before he enters the Star Wars universe). He is truly a mastermind and I love following how his mind works and how he uncovers information. Very much like Sherlock Holmes and def. Doesn’t seem like a “bad guy” in those books! I highly recommend reading the Thrawn Ascendency books first to learn all about his background then move on to the books where he enters the Star Wars universe.Note: small spoiler, he does accidentally come into contact with a young Anikan in book one of the Ascendency series!!
Time to watch Thrawn right now until 11pm or 12am
My Only complaint is... at the start you said he is the greatest military mind in all of star wars history... but you should have said of all star wars histories! xD gj love the video
Thrawn my all time favorite star wars character all his books are great. The only nonhuman to join the empire and rise to the top that should tell you all you need to know about him. I do kind hate how they took him out tho.
I wish he wasn't killed. I wish he had the opportunity to be the next emperor. I believe there could have been a huge movie and series
Killed??
@@LewisB3217 yes. His personal body guard stabbed him in the chest. Now there is a rumor that his body wasn't buried and that he may have been revived
@@tomgorin9512Thrawn will 💯 show up in Ahsoka. Hopefully Filoni will use him properly and do the new emperor like leader of the imperial remnants.
@@LDavis-uz6xl i hope so,but I watched the show and his bodyguard is still in the show,so I think he will be killed
I think of Thrawn as a blue Sherlock Holmes who is an Imperial Admiral
Since rook died in Rebels, there will be an other twist on his dead in Ahsoka....
The most mesmerizing thing about Grand admiral Thrawn is that he looks exactly like the south korean president, but in blue.
Right off the bat, we talk about the Legendary Blue man himself
Its nice to see a visual play by play of the battles that took place during the Thrawn trilogy to help clear up any confusion if there is any.
Thrown getting access to an X e q ter class would have been a mind blower for most of his enemies. Look at what he was able to do with smaller vessels. They would not be able to comprehend his capabilities with that kind of firepower. All he would have to do is show up. Instant surrender.
He hated SSDs, big waste of resources
Welp...my prayers were answered 🎉
I can’t find the Moff Gideon video he mentions at 10:15
The best summary is Rebels collective reaction to Thrawn being unveiled as their enemy...
Karabast!
Thats as close to "oh, shit!" as you can get in kids friendly show....
Can you talk about Darth Sion for those who aren't familiar with legends and those of us who would just love a recap of the character? Loved the the "Eye of Sion" bearing his name
The channel "100% Star Wars" has dedicated multiple in-depth videos to Darth Sion. I highly recommend them.
@@CouncilCape897 I'm personally well versed in his lore, my comment was more for Eck to capitalize on the influx of the more, and I don't mean this in a derogatory sense, casual fans who wont understand the reference. I will have to check out that channel though as I haven't watched any of their stuff.
@@MemesOfProduction69 Ah, my bad. Then I hope you like what the other channel has to share. He mainly focuses on Old Republic Era lore, as he's admitted he isn't particularly well-versed in post-ROTJ storytelling, but I'm confident it'll be worth your time.
And don't worry about the term "casual fan". While there are no defined parameters that objectively determine who's who, I haven't met anyone offended by it. As far as I know, it's generally accepted by all. I personally think it's somewhat generous.
Is it just me or dose the Thrawn in the thumbnail look like Musk?
Thrawn = Star Wars equivalent of Erwin Rommel
accurate
Very cunning Imperial that filled the power vacuum after the battle of Endor.
0:01 hehe "OooUUUt"
Thrawn is really just a continuation of Ender's Game but in the Star Wars universe
I don’t get why the had to make him fat in Asoka. He was very fit in the books and in rebels. Thrawn even states the importance of staying fit, “The mind and body are linked together in a meshwork of oxygen, nutrients, hormones, and neuron health. Physical exercise drives that meshwork, stimulating the brain and freeing one’s intellect.” Asoka also does a poor job of showing how intellectual Thrawn is as it doesn’t show him doing much on his own.
He's old, so is the guy that plays him. Don't overthink it
Then why wasn’t he overweight in legends
Thank you Sir.
I keep wondering were the Grisk tie back in.
What game is that at 45 min?
Empire at war
Anyone else think that the Thrawn thumbnail looks like Zaeed from Mass Effect, just blue lol
Thrawn is probably the best villain of Star Wars. Smart, doesn't rush for no reason, and get the job done.
Vader is more a guard dog to Palpatine 😂
I thought of him like Cao Cao from three kingdoms
when I grow up I want to be just like Thrawn
Then you need to become a military genius asap
It feels like im studying for a test. Except its a tv show
Edit: i failed the test
Everytime I hear about the story of the Thrawn Clone I get sad, the guy literally didn't do anything yet, but he still died for no reason, F. you Jade and Skywalker
They didn't deliberately murder him though
@@JJJBunney001 He still died because of them tho
Yuhzan Vong was the most idiotic thing to come out of the old EU .
It was not Star wars at all.
Could you add some timestamps?
Is it true that he is secretly loyal to the Chiss Ascendancy?
I love these videos, but some of your info is off. The journey by Luke and Mara to the Hand of Thrawn was in 19aby, not 10ABY. Remember, Leia’s twins were tweens by this time. It wasn’t “exactly 10 years after Thrawn’s assassination”. Also, as much damage as Disney did with the sequels, they didn’t de-canonize the EU. Under Lucas, his only Canon was his movies, the Clone Wars, and the animated movie that went with the Clone Wars. The books that complimented his movies, comics, novels, and games were all EU or Extended Universe. This is what Lucas told Disney, and they just called EU Legends. This is a very common misconception amongst these channels.
I'm sorry, but the image of Thrawn in the thumbnail I feel is pretty off putting. The Musk resemblance is uncanny.
I wouldn't exactly call someone who never took interest in Star Wars apart from the movies a fan.
You don't have to like everything or have seen it all to be a fan of a universe
There is EU Thrawn and thats about it for me. The other blue guy they got in the Disney canon ain't him.
He is him, you just don’t like him, which is your choice
They're basically the same, calm down
@@JJJBunney001 they are not Thrawn in the EU is a tactical genius. He represents intelligence, patience, and clairvoyance. This new Thrawn in Disney Canon is a Scooby-Doo character. Gets out smarted by a child all the time (in rebels)? He makes tactical mistakes that make no sense. Send two tie fighters? Really only two? Spends years in the same area as Ezra and doesn't take him out that whole time? Just lets that threat fester? Somebody said Disney's Star Wars Thrawn is like what a stupid person thinks a smart man is. That's basically the perfect analog for him. In the books, you are introduced to him as a genius almost immediately. You understand that he can analyze a species art to figure out their weakness and then exploit that weakness to devastating effect. He doesn't just throw forces away when the situation is turning sour for him. Think the end of Heir to the Empire. In the TV show and to a lesser extent the cartoon, he's a clown who just tosses his forces away like any other imperial without thinking. The way we're introduced to him is so comical a bunch of stormtroopers chanting his name. That doesn't set up his tactical genius, why he's a big threat, anything about him. If you didn't know who this guy was, you wouldn't be very impressed with him compared to how he was introduced in the first book.
It's pronounced X e cuter.
The concept of using a gravity well to bring a ship out of hyperspace is no longer cannon. The movies made that so.
They literally do that in Rebels, and Rebels is canon
@@felps_4500 Then you have to make it your personal choice. Pick one John ra to be cannon the movies or the animated series. Since they contradict in the rules of the universe, you can only have one.
@@dawall3732 Nah
The interdictor is still canon lmao
He was always right.
Tjrawn jad to doe for the vong to actually be a threat... i mean... yeah 👍
Why does thrawn on the video thumbnail look like elon musk?
I hate that casting on Thrawn. He looks like a blue Elon Musk and I can't unsee it.
Just realized how Thrawn and Khan sound similar... wonder if they'll use that in the new show.
Why he look like a blue Elon musk
Thrown looks like space karen 🎉😅
Lol legends is Canon screw disney ruined a great franchise
It's pronounced (Myth-Twran-Ner-a-do)
According to Timothy Zahn anyway
Nooooope the best books are Bane
That picture of Thrawn is terrible.
im so sad they r going to destroy thrawn and who he is....
No they won't
Why does he look like Elon Musk!🤔
Why does thumbnail Thrawn look like Elon Musk mixed with Gustavo?
Owt
The most famous rip-off of Ender Wiggin ever.
mOo
If the Disney products were any good, I would be okay with the decaonization of the EU. However, most of the stuff they've released (the movies especially) were garbage.
You should be temporarily imprisoned for that godawful thumbnail of thrawn
Thrawn. One of the most tediously overated and wanked off characters in the entire franchise...
He's popular for a reason, at least he has some character and is more interesting than Boba Fett or Darth Maul
@@JJJBunney001hell nah
who the fuck doesnt know thrawn
99% of star wars fans. It's easy to forget that most people don't even watch the shows, even less read the books and comics
@@Dendricklystablehow can you a be a fan, which is short for fanatic, if you don't keep up with what Lucasfilm has put out since 2019? There aren't any movies coming out that's for sure...
@Hello-bi1pm a fan is someone who enjoys something, you don't have to have seen all of it to know you enjoy some of it
@@JJJBunney001 not true, fan is a short of fanatic
Blue Elon Musk
*The Legend of Blue Elon
Why Elon Musk is blue? 🌜👍
WOW, Thrawn is really Elon! That's about the only thing that's interesting about this show.
Thrawn is what Elon wishes he could be, Elon is such an idiot in real life 😂