The more I watched the film, the more I was convinced that Ridley had made a 'teen slasher-flick in space.' Seriously, they make stupid decisions, and get picked off one-by-one. Plus, there are characters that fit the 6 horror-film archetypes: The Jock - Charlie Holloway The Cheerleader/Ice Queen - Vickers The Nerd/Stoner - Fifield AND Millburn The Token Minority - The crew of Prometheus, led by Janek The Nice Guy - David The Virgin/Last-Call Girl - Shaw
YEP, its a stupid movie. Scott should have just stopped at Aliens, but, like terminator and Rocky and many other franchises like alien v predator, theres too much money to be made, studios throw too much money at the directors and actors and these stupid sagas never ever end..
A few questions: 1. After watching her boyfriend get roasted by a flamethrower for being a contamination risk to the ship, why didn't Shaw tell anyone about the aborted Alien in the medical bay? 2. Why doesn't anyone ask Shaw why she's covered in blood when she discovers Weyland? 3. Why doesn't Shaw tell anyone why she's covered in blood when she discovers Weyland? 4. Where do the two scientists who were chasing Shaw disappear to when she discovers Weyland? 5. Why does Shaw "discover" Weyland in the first place? Isn't he funding the mission? Why's he hiding? 6. Why don't Shaw and Furiosa run to the side rather than in a straight line when running from a rolling ship? 7. Why does Noomi Rapace look bored and/ or confused throughout this movie? 8. Why was I bored and/ or confused throughout this movie?
Antichrist2000 I'm going to assume Prometheus and Alien: Covenant retcon the AvP movies, since those obviously take place before these movies but the Xenomorph still exists.
Looking back on this movie, I think I see where it was trying to come from. And subsequently where this movie got lost up its own ass. This movie...is a very loose criticism of Religion. I think that's why so many anti-evolution themes were crammed into this movie. It's kind of like a Feature-Length version of a Clock-Work Origin from Futurama; the story of Evolution that begins to resemble Creationism. Mankind going out into "the heavens" to search for their creator. Then when they do find those that created them, it's like nothing they ever expected. I do like how the Engineer responds to David with, "If we were Immortal, we'd have no need for Mankind." That to me just drips with so much subtext. But I don't think anything this "profound" was necessary for a Prequel that belonged in the Alien Franchise. Because it establishes that Human Beings and the Xenomorphs were both created by the same source...And frankly that's a little disturbing... ...Unless of course that somehow or another, the Engineers didn't make the Xenomorphs. Maybe the reason they were trying to seed planets with life, is in the hopes of engineering a biological weapon that could properly combat the Xenomorphs, and that maybe that black goo they had on their ships were experiments they were running to harvest Xenomorph DNA. But you see where I'm going with this? This movie just raises too many questions and virtually answers none. It's frustrating.
@V-Rex EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People always claim that stormtroopers can't shoot, utterly ignoring all of the times they do so petty well( Attack on Hoth. Battled on Endor. Your example above.) and instead only point to the times they missed( Death star fights. Bespin fight) which are all explained by the fact that they were under orders to not kill the heroes. Finally. Someone else that notices this.
I think Prometheus thinks it's an intelligent film that raises fundamental questions regarding faith, religion and our place in the universe... In reality it's a movie that is glossy, effects laden and pretty to look at, but has no idea what it's talking about and therefore just comes across half assed. Great ideas, lousy execution.
It's all well and good to bring up philosophical questions, but there's nothing wrong with simplicity if it works with the story. I think what they should have done instead of "finding our creators" is have a satellite or probe the planet and discover there's manufactured structures of a lost alien civilization and explore said areas. Sounds a bit plain, but it's still a better setup in my opinion.
I saw it as a cautionary tale about a crew that thought it was intelligent and raised fundamental questions regarding faith, religion and our place in the universe, and by being so blinkered missed all the clues that there is a far more sinister scenario going on, which should have caused them to be far more cautious, and far less eager to rush in. Even at the end, Shaw still thinks she is heading off to meet "our maker" , which I find hilarious considering the conclusions I took from the movie.
jimbobeire Cautionary tale my ass. Shaw was going to make Vickers waste billions, possibly trillions of dollars on a vague hunch. I would've demanded a lot more evidence before heading there.
***** Isn't that the point of a 'cautionary tale'... showing you something dumb which ends in tragedy? Also, Vickers was only pretending to be in charge, as she was hiding the fact that Weyland was on board. A man desperate to avoid death is not as rational as a man in good health. Even still, once they landed on the planet they still had plenty of opportunities to take their time and think critically about what they were doing and what they found. Instead they rushed in and rushed to judgment, and all but 2 of them perished.
13:55 well that one part where david was done speaking to peter weyland through the machine, David told weyland about the mutagen, and then peter told him to use it on one of the crew, and using Holloway as a guinea pig was a bonus for David.
What they thought the fans wanted: Deep introspective opera of where do we come from, in space... What the fans really wanted: Marines blowing the shit out of xenomorph bugs
What this fan would have wanted. A movie, and or characters, that makes any sense at all. Stupid decisions. Horribly botched "science". Scientists which base long ranged , dangerous, expensive exploration not on evidence , but on what they " chose to believe". Moronic actions by just about every character. No actual explanations for anything. This movie was a beautiful lie, full of stunning visuals and half assed story telling.
@@antoniotolentino8108 Because the writers were not smart enough to write scientists not doing stupid things and still get the story where they wanted it to go. Which makes them either dumb, or lazy, or both.
Well, I attempted to monetize the Predator 2 review, and finally got word back from UA-cam that yes - they demand written permission from Fox. Fair Use is not a selectable option for "proof of commercial rights." Oh well...
Charlie Chaplin was 73 when his youngest child was born and the oldest ever man to father a child was reportedly Les Colley (1898 - 1998, Australia), who had his ninth child a son named Oswald to his third wife at the age of 92 years 10 months, so it's entirely possible that Weyland had Vickers at that age.
NC hasn't been funny since his SJW regressive ass got butt hurt over the presidential election. Decker Shado is the last best hope for honest funny YT film reviews.
+Donald Baker The Nostalgia Critic isn't a "YT film reviewer", he uploads videos from his own website. Plus, his newest reviews are WAAAAYY better than anything else since he came back, so you've got it backwards really.
I thought I was the only one who noticed that it ripped off concepts from the AvP movies. And what's weird is Ridley Scott said he hated those movies....yet still created one that was very much like an AvP movie ripoff....
Not too bad, but I think you missed some obvious stuff. - Why David would target Holloway - after Weyland told him to 'try harder' he needed quick answers and Holloway was drunk, not in quarters, and importantly, expendable. The fact that Holloway was mean to him might also play a part even though David is supposed to be above having a sensitive ego. Shaw didn't just 'outrun' the Engineer - he never chased her - perhaps seeing her treatment by Weyland and Weyland's servants as reason enough to dislike and kill them, while she seemed to pose no threat. The MedPod is not in Vickers quarters. If you pay attention to the ship layout, there is more than one door into the MedPod chamber. One is from the lounge/ bar next to Vickers chambers, and the other door is from the corridor. The Squid didn't get out of the MedPod and thrash the lifeboat and then lock itself back in. The damage in the Lifeboat is from the rough impact with the ground. Re: The star map, yes, not only too many matching configurations, but considering that the stars travel at differing speeds, constellations would not look the same over a time period of 33000 years. Personally I think the playing to the creationist was 'gilding the lily'. There are subtle clues throughout the film, that despite her certainty, Shaw has reached completely incorrect conclusions about what they've found, and what it's intentions might be, and it's relation to us. Also, I think there's a scientific error in the script, where Forde says breathing CO2 over 3% is like breathing through a tail pipe. That would be correct if she was talking about Carbon *Mon* oxide rather than Carbon *Di* oxide.
Also, I don't think the 'convenient storm' disruption the investigation was supposed to be a co-incidence. Considering the terraforming and hidden nature of the bioweapons labs, it might be reasonably concluded that it's actually a defense mechanism triggered by intruders.
I might get some stick for this but I actually prefer the AvP movies as prequels. They clearly have glaring forms as films but they maintain a sense of mystery and menace for the Alien species rather than making them a side effect of some unimaginative Precursor species' science experiment.
AVP ruined the base behind the alien trilogy... The ALIEN trilogy was WAY BETTER with prometheus as its prequel... (And I hate how some idiots think the predators created xenomorphs)
Nigel S. I quite agree that the idea of Predators creating the Xenomorphs is very dumb and doesn't fit either species established traits. But that idea was not brought up in the AVP movies and anyway I don't find the idea of the Engineers creating them any better. The Engineers are boring as hell. Humanoids with funny faces? That's Star Trek TOS stuff! If they absolutely had to reduce the impressive, inhuman Alien creature to the by-product of some other race (a fantastically poor idea) they could at least have made them unique looking, like say, the Space Jockey. The AVP movies left the origin of the Xenomorphs mysterious, allowed both species to be badass and threatening, gave backstory for Wayland-Yutani's obsession with the things and why the corporation got so powerful. They kinda suck as actual films, the 2nd one in particular, but as back story they work a lot better. Also, side note, but where the Alien "trilogy" is concerned, Alien 3 can feel free to bite me with both mouths. Resurrection was better than that, at least it was funny. Hell, parts of Requiem was better, when you could see it.
GriffinPilgrim yes, indeed they could've made the engineers more creative, but they have the same DNA as a human so they need to look somewhat similar...
Nigel S. Yep, they needed that to make their "ancient aliens made humans" story work. But the thing is I hate that story. Always have. As Decker points out it kinda craps all over the evidence for evolution on Earth and, in my opinion which I freely admit is not going to be everyone's, seriously reduces the effectiveness of the Aliens. Because as it turns out, their not aliens at all, there something we made. No mystery, no enigmatic threat, just humans dicking with advanced science. I've seen that plot too much as well. At least AVP didn't ever try to give contrived origins to either species, just to their involvement with humanity. Fair's fair, they did still do the "ancient aliens made human civilisation" story, which I also hate, but less so, especially as it's clear the civilisation the Preds created was destroyed and later civilisations we did on our own.
GriffinPilgrim agreed, decker ALWAYS makes good points AND is funny while doing so, but i liked Prometheus for its lore, and im exited for Prometheus 2 in 2016
Great review Decker, especially after watching it a second time. You really do have a knack for picking up on a film's inconsistencies. Obvious things you would think the producers would have caught.
The movie might have been directed by an atheist, but the script was written by Damon Lindelof, who always includes a lot of heavy-handed religious symbolism in his work.
@@x-man9473 Im on the opposite side of the spectrum, hated lost, loved it initially but when things kept ramping up with no actual pay off or explanation just shot that show in the foot.
@@scientificbrony Meh. I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum. I realized the flaws. But I feel like the fanbase was way too whiny. >They kept demanding answers to the smallest and most vague questions (what is the island? where is Shannon's inhaler? what is the smoke monster?). The writers were bending over backwards to create storylines to answer them. >Meanwhile, they had to deal with actors rushing out of contracts, the "Walt" actor aging unexpectedly, a writers strike, the tv producers not giving them an end date, fans complaining about their dislike of certain characters, etc. And they had to keep rewriting the script to compensate for all of these issues.
My BIGGEST issue with Prometheus is how it predates Alien but has vastly superior technology to Alien. Yes, I know Alien was in the 1979 and this is in 2012, but unless they plan to reboot the entire thing...kind of have to disagree with that decision. The only thing I THINK could possibly explain that was if there was a drastic war that set mankind back in technology in some parts and so forth. But this thing has superior technology for even Aliens. I felt they should have stayed in the general style of technology used by that series or given a proper explanation as to why it was so vastly advanced in comparison. But I guess we'll never know.
However, I felt your obvious anti-religion crud (not your disagreements with the imperfect and relatively ignorant attempts at other beliefs they tried to put in) could have been left out.
***** i only really gave a quick description on it. :P there's a full dedicated website on the movie to give answers, but then again, answers should really be in the movie anyway.
To sum this movie up:great visuals/photography/effects and M.Fassbender gives a cool performance as the android but everything else is total crap,specially the story.Other movies have plotholes,Prometheus is a gigantic plot-crater,I mean nothing here makes sense.No wonder,considering it's written by Lindeloff. The AVP movies weren't good but at least they were fairly entertaining as monster-movies.
+doubleP It took me a long time to accept it but you're right this movie is bad, besides the good points you mentioned. It's a guilty pleasure of mine now. I suggest the video, Scientists Destroy Prometheus, entertaining.
+Sterlington Parker This Movie only introduced the Engineers/Pilot/Space Jockeys. That's about it. Then it gives us the question why the albino alien giants wants us dead. It deliberately left more questions unanswered for sequel bait. Then Ridley stated the Engineers created this evil biology to protect themselves. Which he says will be answered in the Prometheus sequel titled Alien Covenant.
+Sterlington Parker The Xenomorph skull that was shown in Predator 2 was stated to be a joke by the director at the same time paying homage to the success of Dark Horse Comic's Aliens Vs Predators. Its not to be taken seriously. Ridley Scott at one time stated he was against the idea of a crossover between Alien and Predator on film. This is why Ridley didn't direct the first AVP film. So the Alien race that the Engineers are at war with wont be the Predators. Who or what this Alien Race is, it sure to be a severe threat to the Engineers.
I'm fairly certain that they set out to make a prequel to Alien, hence the murals of fully fledged aliens in the black goo store. Then somewhere along the way Ridley Scott had a brain fart and decided to Von Daniken the whole thing and make the aliens a by-product of some kind of 'Chariots of the Gods' rerun (yawn!). From what I've seen of the original concept, including earlier scenes, it would have made a pretty good prequel to Alien and would have made much more sense. I hate this movie and its sequel; they just seem unnecessarily pretentious and also apparently occur in a universe without Isaac Asimov to tell us what a stupid idea it is to make artificial people without failsafe programming!
When I first saw this I thought that the alien at the beginning wasn't breaking his DNA to form a human, but to form the first life on Earth, and then Humans evolved from that many years later, but apparently not. I don't really care anyway, but that would've made more sense for someone who believes in Evolution.
we clearly see green surfaces in the opening, thus plant life already exists. i would say the makers of the movie didnt have a clear concept. they just wanted to imply some kind of beginning for some parts of life leading up to humans. but that doesnt explain how early people knew to draw that starsytem in caves^^
@Degree7 We are not a "random evolutionary byproduct". Though the mutation part of evolution is "random"( to a degree), the other important part " natural selection" is hardly " random". It is a product of the circumstances present in the environment. Claiming that the result is " random" would be like claiming that deserts are " randomly placed" on the Earth.
@Degree7 No. They are not. They are dictated by prior circumstances. Deserts exist in certain locations , not randomly, but due to rain patterns affected by mountain ranges and body of water location, which in turn is also not random as bodies of water occur where the land is low , and drainage to another location does not exceed rainfall or water added from rivers or springs. Rivers also do not occur "randomly" . They occur where water , draining from other areas find a route of least resistance to follow due to gravity( which also is not " random", but instead dictated by mass and relative distance from other massive bodies, which is also not random, but dictated by prior circumstance of distance and relation to still other massive bodies) . We don't get "random rainfall" levels. We get rainfall levels in an environment based upon location of bodies of water, wind patterns, and relationship to mountain ranges. The life around an organism is also part of the environment, and affect natural selection( an island devoid of large predators places different pressures on an antelope than an plain populated by lions and hyenas) is certainly affected by those other organisms . Amount of sunlight is a selection pressure and is not " random" but dictated by weather patterns, mountains, depth below the ocean, ect, ect, ect. Not "random". Presence of prey species is dictated , not " randomly" but by availability of vegetation for said prey to eat, which depends on rainfall and fertility of the soil, neither of which is random either. Sorry. You are waaaaaaaaaaaay off there. Rf you were not you would get "random" large , sustained rainstorms in deserts, but you don't. You would get "random" distribution of prey species, but you don't. You would get " random" amounts of sunlight from day to day, week to week, year to year, but you don't. These things are , more or less, predictable due to patterns caused by other circumstances in the environment which are also not random, but are also predictable due to other circumstances. Not random. Not really. Not hardly. Jungles are predictable. Deserts are predictable. Oceans, lakes, ponds, rivers are all, more or less, predictable in where they will occur and the conditions within them will be, more or less, predictable. Oceans and lakes and rivers will not randomly become deserts , unless circumstances surrounding them( which won't happen randomly either). Same for forests and jungles, and mountaintops, ect, ect, ect.
Another awesome video Decker. I hope they answer more questions than those than create more questions in the planned sequels? Are you excited about the new proposed Alien film?
It would be awesome if someone made a prequel to Predators, like how the Super Predators ended up on the hunting planet and their rival with the Jungle Hunters
and the later sequel would possibly be overly done sexjokes and making a meme out of what a predator and a hunter is, and that autism is next-stage human evolution.
I can accept the alien weirdness, but the premise that this trillion-dollar mission would have such unprofessional and casual a-holes conducting it just breaks the movie for me. Space truckers works in the first movie, but not here. Jeez.
I guess David poisoned Hollway's drink, to see if the black goo, might help/rejuvenate his maker "Weyland". Which I suppose would be his main programing.
7:36 Concepts of Evolution have been around for many centuries, Darwin invented the mechanism to explain how it works: Natural Selection - - aka randomness
I had a c-section with my first born son. There is no way she could have run and jumped like that even with painkillers. One could argue advanced futuristic painkillers, perhaps, but would she be so lucid and coordinated then?
I loved this movie for the suspense, the obsession over what would happen next, and the just the story in general; and religion aside, I find it interesting that the writer dared to ask what if our creators created us just because they could...asking those type of questions isn't necessarily religion, the story is based on timeless questions, and like real life some people want to travel to the end of the earth to answer the questions, and some just want to get back to reality. I honestly think this generation isn't well equipped to enjoy a slower paced, more thought provoking movie; it was marketed more as horror/action, but it was a pure, deep sci-fi film, so the viewers were pissed. Also, I'm a biased Alien fan-boy so keeping fingers crossed for shift towards prequel.
I wouldn't really call this a thought provoking movie. A six year old could of came up with these questions.........and script. I'm glad Lindelof, won't be having anything to do with the prequel. There's leaving things to the imagination, then there's being vague as crap.
From what i seen. I think "proto-alien" is an early form of the xenomprh after the chestburster. But it couldnt burst because, maybe chest of engeneer was to hard for it.
I’m gonna be honest I don’t count this movie or covenant as canon for the Alien franchise AT ALL Xenomorphs shouldn’t have been “created” they should’ve just been an alien species that has adapted for a much different ecosystem not “the ultimate bio weapons” they should just be alien animals
The scene where they crash into the engineer ship to prevent it from leaving always reminds me of Duddits from Dreamcatcher by the way all three of them have their arms raised in the air...I, Duddits!
David doesn't spike hollaways drink because he's curious. He does it to see if it might make Holloway stronger or kill him because he's testing it for Wayland. Wayland is seeking immortal life, David test it on Holloway to see its effects for Wayland. Literally explains that later in the movie.
It's not even in Vicker's quarters, it's on the lifeboat where Vicker's quarters _and_ Weyland's quarters are located. There are two doors to the medpod room. One door is in a corridor, and the other door is from that fancy room with the bar, the piano and the chandelier.
"I hope this isn't a sign that Ridley is about to start his own religion" granted im sure a religion made by Ridley Scott would make a hell of a lot more sense then current religions (I'm looking at you creationism you too Islam)
The Deacon was the best part of the movie. In Predators we see a subspecies of predator called the Black Super Predators. Now we see a subspecies to the Xenomorph called the Deacon.
Prometheus doesn't exist in a gray area. It's completely retarded, except for the wonderful visuals, tanks to Riddley's great eye. But the story and the characters are completely stupid, and that kills the movie entirely for me. ALL the characters' actions are completely stupid and the plot looks like it was put together by a mentally-handicapped 2-year-old child (namely known as Damon Lindelof, cf. all LOST episodes and the new STAR TREK movies).
I liked prometheus, it gave me a feeling of wonder... Sure I wish it had more to do with the xenomorphs but it's overall good, your just to simple minded...
+Nigel S. we are simple minded ? you liked a movie with shitty story worst scientific crew ever going on a mission with no proof to back there theory going on a trillion dolloar mission with hi thech map ball but still gets lost while the captain looks at the map and could tell them were the exit is and im just gonna stop there because there is to much non sense in that movie but hey this guy liked it so how dare we do not share is opinion ..... your a dick pal =)
The engineer at the beginning is offering himself, It's part of their religion. The giant head in the giant head room is their god. All those cannisters are offerings. Weyland was in cryosleep this whole time, that medpod was made for him. The black goo has different effects deppending on where it's made conntact. David is an android that's duty is to take/find/destroy/make. You know... He is programmed to do anything he can to help find what weyland is looking for. Giant squid is a kind of facehugger. Remember that Xenomorph's look different depending on what creature the host is. Thats why it looked different. A long time ago there was a xeno infestation there, thats why everyone is dead. Notice that there are holes in their chests (The bodies of engineers by the door) XENO'S!!! And the little squid that later grew up to giant squid is a reference to Jesus by the way :3
First of all what the Engineer was doing at the beginning was offering his DNA to advance human evolution. It makes no difference where the black goo makes contact. I don't know where that's coming from on your account. That wouldn't make much sense, if at all. But on all other points that's about right.
First of all what the Engineer was doing at the beginning was offering his DNA to advance human evolution. It makes no difference where the black goo makes contact. I don't know where that's coming from on your account. That wouldn't make much sense, if at all. But on all other points that's about right.
wtxcrazydonut yes i does make a diffrence where it makes contact. it mutated the worms in the altar room to the snakes , it turns humans in to zombie like agressiv beings and due to infection and sex its spawns the sqiud . i would say there is enough diffrence
Blut Fetischist You can't compare contact made from a worm and contact made from a human. That's a completely different species that could be effected a completely different way. The ideas the same though, a stronger, bigger and more hostile version of the organism.
this is actually great review. you put so much effort in research. great job man. I like the movie, I don't love it, but agree with you on almost all points
I find if funny how some people have brought religion debate into this movie i mean it fucking movie about aliens. Their no reason to have that in this movie or have people use this movie in kind of topic,.
***** We don't bash it on that basis, we do so on a mix of reasons: 1: It's fun watching them react to our bashing in such aggressive and overly fanatical ways. 2: We get loads of laughs out of the half assed arguments the fanatics make back at us. 3: The fanaticals are the gift that keeps on giving in the forms of endless comedic material, remember Banana man, he was a laugh riot! Then there is that Ken Ham fellow who just has me rolling on the floor in laughter half the time. 4: It needs to be said. The fanatics continue to try to push their views on to others and try to control how other people live by doing the thing that only the lowest form of human would do, target children in school with their misinformation and skewing of the facts (Evolution being one of such things that has been skewed and misrepresented by these fanatics in schools) 5: It also needs to be shown. These fanatics we go for are often monsters in the highest degrees whom show no sympathy to others of different view points. It is one of the purposes of free speech that we call them out and prevent such horrible views from spreading, and thus causing suffering to others at their hands. Religious bullying is indeed a problem. 6: It's damn fun! I love to destroy arguments and the religious of this level provide a perfect training ground for beginning debaters as their arguments are often full of fallacies and flaws. Now with all this said, I would like to remind you that this post was made on the purpose of amusement, have a wonderful day my friend! Note: Notice how I said fanatical, we rarely if ever go after the moderates unless they show high hypocrisy. We rarely base opinions on someone on religion, unless they do so themselves, or in otherwords, are fanatics.
This movie is a masterpiece. FUCK THE HATERS. I have only ONE problem, the scientist who touches the snake, that's stupid, no one would do that. Apart from that it's perfect.
Medina Sod i like to think that the other guy he is with gave him some of his "tobacco" while they were wandering around lost resulting in his stupid actions.
Funny thing is, I remember, indeed, HAD one of those love seats. Early 1990s, an almost exclusive special they had at Rent-A-Center. You kept that thing in great shape for almost 20+ years old.
Decker, we get that you are an Atheist, but you don't gotta bash us religious people just because what we do and believe makes no sense in your perspective.
He's just pointing out that it's an exceedingly flimsy context to spend all that money for a research expedition to some place that legitimately may not have anything on it, not to mention how exceedingly fuckin dangerous that'd be if there was shit on it and they'd probably be a little perturbed if some rando just lands on their planet and proceeds to try and study them.
It's a perfectly valid "bashing." We have a scientist in this movie who believes thing because she chooses to...that's not very scientific. Religious people choose to believe things in spite of or without any evidence all the time, but that's not how a scientist should think.
Saying some place is uninhabitable reminds of the time my ex and I rented a boat to camp on an island in northern Wisconsin. We'll we showed up a half hour before a violent storm, we tried to find the island and the storm hit quickly after our start. I could not navigate and basically could not see 8 foot ahead of us! It was very confusing and we set down on a sliver of land that would be by no means considered inhabitants but I insisted it was the edge of the island and we set up tent to get out of the elements. In the morning, luckily the island we were aimed for was only like 4 football fields away.
Nice review. I wanted so much to like this movie. I watched it 5 times to see if maybe I was missing something but liked it less each time. It is telling that Scott went from three prequels with no xenos to calling it Alien and having xenos after Bloomkamp got positive responses for wanting to make Alien 2.5.
I'd say prometheus is more of a spin off, yes it's set before but it's a story based off one scene from alien, when they find the derelict and the fossilised space Jokey.
Short and sweet, answers, amici: He asked Holloway what he'd do for his dreams. Likely wouldn't have spiked the drink if he didn't reply "anything" Deacon can't be a proto xenomorph. There's a mural to the full grown one in their ship. Weird Al calls it out at 11:46
the alien at the end is called a deacon, its a much larger version of the xenomorph, some say it's a progenitor of the xenomorph, or it has taken on the engineers DNA.
I too was scratching my head at all the illogical 'science' and ridiculous motivation, however I did read later that there were elements from two separate scripts which were bolted together and possibly explains plot holes and inconsistencies 🤷♂️
Never mind the possibility of that pattern of stars coming up several times in the universe, what about stellar drift? I don’t think the first humans were looking up at Ursa Major or Orion. Could’ve been that such a constellation use to exist but after thousands of years the stars moved.
Why was the android dying his roots?? Does his hair grow? Why the fu*k would he have new growth? I could understand an allover bleach job, but the roots? What the actual fu*k...
The more I watched the film, the more I was convinced that Ridley had made a 'teen slasher-flick in space.'
Seriously, they make stupid decisions, and get picked off one-by-one. Plus, there are characters that fit the 6 horror-film archetypes:
The Jock - Charlie Holloway
The Cheerleader/Ice Queen - Vickers
The Nerd/Stoner - Fifield AND Millburn
The Token Minority - The crew of Prometheus, led by Janek
The Nice Guy - David
The Virgin/Last-Call Girl - Shaw
Your right... 😑
The Crazy Old Man - Weyland
David wasn't a nice guy
While reading this, all I could think of was Jason X, which tbf is probably way more entertaining than any modern Alien movie could hope to be.
YEP, its a stupid movie. Scott should have just stopped at Aliens, but, like terminator and Rocky and many other franchises like alien v predator, theres too much money to be made, studios throw too much money at the directors and actors and these stupid sagas never ever end..
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the timing of the cat's mewl and Mr. Shado's response made me laugh out loud
It was Jonsey making his movie comeback
I loved this moment. For it's randomness and perfect execution
@@majkwazofski8463 don't you mean purrfect?
Cutest cat ever!
I always thought Wayland in this film looked like old Biff.
HAHA!!! If only that was in the movie.
"Hey McFly".
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Poochyena Jones I was going to write that 🤣
It's you and me Ripley. One day you'll be my wife.
"Hi! I'm Decker Shado, the internet personality with the best hair."
Subbed right there.
+Nils Waage his hair sucks and he looks like a basement dweller...
+Mr Fantastic Said a probably basement dweller.
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said an also probably basement dweller.
+Mr Fantastic what's wrong with being a basement dweller?
aren't WE all basement dwellers?Can't we just be basement dwellers in peace?
A few questions:
1. After watching her boyfriend get roasted by a flamethrower for being a contamination risk to the ship, why didn't Shaw tell anyone about the aborted Alien in the medical bay?
2. Why doesn't anyone ask Shaw why she's covered in blood when she discovers Weyland?
3. Why doesn't Shaw tell anyone why she's covered in blood when she discovers Weyland?
4. Where do the two scientists who were chasing Shaw disappear to when she discovers Weyland?
5. Why does Shaw "discover" Weyland in the first place? Isn't he funding the mission? Why's he hiding?
6. Why don't Shaw and Furiosa run to the side rather than in a straight line when running from a rolling ship?
7. Why does Noomi Rapace look bored and/ or confused throughout this movie?
8. Why was I bored and/ or confused throughout this movie?
Antichrist2000 I'm going to assume Prometheus and Alien: Covenant retcon the AvP movies, since those obviously take place before these movies but the Xenomorph still exists.
Re: #2: "Noomi, have you been playing with the stapler again?!"
Well you see, Shaw didn't tell everyone about her baby squid because...
Uh........
Um.........
Fear of being judged for birthing a squid?
@@saltystick_99 probably didn't wanna be burned as a contamination risk
@@jmatthews4064 People in the Alien prequel movies following Biohazard procedures?
*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*
I felt more investment in your camera-work making exploring your couch interesting than I did in the entirety of the actual movie.
Looking back on this movie, I think I see where it was trying to come from. And subsequently where this movie got lost up its own ass.
This movie...is a very loose criticism of Religion. I think that's why so many anti-evolution themes were crammed into this movie. It's kind of like a Feature-Length version of a Clock-Work Origin from Futurama; the story of Evolution that begins to resemble Creationism.
Mankind going out into "the heavens" to search for their creator. Then when they do find those that created them, it's like nothing they ever expected.
I do like how the Engineer responds to David with, "If we were Immortal, we'd have no need for Mankind."
That to me just drips with so much subtext.
But I don't think anything this "profound" was necessary for a Prequel that belonged in the Alien Franchise. Because it establishes that Human Beings and the Xenomorphs were both created by the same source...And frankly that's a little disturbing...
...Unless of course that somehow or another, the Engineers didn't make the Xenomorphs. Maybe the reason they were trying to seed planets with life, is in the hopes of engineering a biological weapon that could properly combat the Xenomorphs, and that maybe that black goo they had on their ships were experiments they were running to harvest Xenomorph DNA.
But you see where I'm going with this? This movie just raises too many questions and virtually answers none. It's frustrating.
They didn't David created the Xenomorphs
Also this movie wasn't supposed to be alien focused, they wanted this to be its own movie in the alien universe so don't think of it as a prequel
@@markpugh6808 Fake news. Even the novelization of Covenant specifically states that David DID NOT create the Xenomorphs.
Prometheus is what a Michael Bay film would be like if Michael Bay was a Sci-fi director instead of an action movie director.
I feel like Prometheus is still too (can't beleive I"m saying this) high-brow for Mikey.
Bay blows.
Nah, Prometheus actually has quiet moments and interesting dialogue, it’s not nonstop action slop like bay
The Prometheus school for running away from things
Ding!
Best point of the decade!
Maybe they were trained in the Storm Trooper Academy of Marksmanship.
@V-Rex
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People always claim that stormtroopers can't shoot, utterly ignoring all of the times they do so petty well( Attack on Hoth. Battled on Endor. Your example above.) and instead only point to the times they missed( Death star fights. Bespin fight) which are all explained by the fact that they were under orders to not kill the heroes.
Finally. Someone else that notices this.
Skip!
So I just discovered you about 3 days ago. Been binging ever since . You have a gained a new subscriber :)
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Duh dun duh same love this wierdo
Congratulations, it's a... squid...
Ha I get that reference.
I wanna see decker review mib ong
reasons I love this guy: We both have long hair, we have morbid humor, and we love criticizing movies.
You are his clone? You should start making movie reviews! Its may be your true calling
I think Prometheus thinks it's an intelligent film that raises fundamental questions regarding faith, religion and our place in the universe... In reality it's a movie that is glossy, effects laden and pretty to look at, but has no idea what it's talking about and therefore just comes across half assed. Great ideas, lousy execution.
It's all well and good to bring up philosophical questions, but there's nothing wrong with simplicity if it works with the story. I think what they should have done instead of "finding our creators" is have a satellite or probe the planet and discover there's manufactured structures of a lost alien civilization and explore said areas. Sounds a bit plain, but it's still a better setup in my opinion.
I saw it as a cautionary tale about a crew that thought it was intelligent and raised fundamental questions regarding faith, religion and our place in the universe, and by being so blinkered missed all the clues that there is a far more sinister scenario going on, which should have caused them to be far more cautious, and far less eager to rush in. Even at the end, Shaw still thinks she is heading off to meet "our maker" , which I find hilarious considering the conclusions I took from the movie.
jimbobeire Cautionary tale my ass. Shaw was going to make Vickers waste billions, possibly trillions of dollars on a vague hunch. I would've demanded a lot more evidence before heading there.
***** Isn't that the point of a 'cautionary tale'... showing you something dumb which ends in tragedy? Also, Vickers was only pretending to be in charge, as she was hiding the fact that Weyland was on board. A man desperate to avoid death is not as rational as a man in good health. Even still, once they landed on the planet they still had plenty of opportunities to take their time and think critically about what they were doing and what they found. Instead they rushed in and rushed to judgment, and all but 2 of them perished.
jimbobeire All this movie proves is that humans are stupid and irrational.
This was one of the first videos I saw. It's a classic. So glad you are doing better now. It's been a wild ride, glad you didn't give up.
13:55 well that one part where david was done speaking to peter weyland through the machine, David told weyland about the mutagen, and then peter told him to use it on one of the crew, and using Holloway as a guinea pig was a bonus for David.
I felt this movie had a lot of similarities to Alien vs Predator.
3:26 "That has one hell of a kick!" "Meow!" lol
so cute
Aww 😍 kitty ❤
Greetings from the future!!
Do not expect the follow-up to this film to be any better. In fact it's going to make this pile of zhat look better.
19:14, that's exactly what I said when I saw this in theaters... and the entire audience broke out laughing.
What they thought the fans wanted: Deep introspective opera of where do we come from, in space...
What the fans really wanted: Marines blowing the shit out of xenomorph bugs
Zak Kaufman What this fan would have wanted:
A movie with profound questions-AND ANSWERS-not put together in such a puerile way.
What this fan would have wanted.
A movie, and or characters, that makes any sense at all.
Stupid decisions.
Horribly botched "science".
Scientists which base long ranged , dangerous, expensive exploration not on evidence , but on what they " chose to believe".
Moronic actions by just about every character.
No actual explanations for anything.
This movie was a beautiful lie, full of stunning visuals and half assed story telling.
with religion approach for science - I choose to believe 'X'.
@@daverobson3084yeah why were the scientists so dumb ???
@@antoniotolentino8108
Because the writers were not smart enough to write scientists not doing stupid things and still get the story where they wanted it to go. Which makes them either dumb, or lazy, or both.
Look the fact that he is alive without his head blew his mind
LITERALLY
Well, I attempted to monetize the Predator 2 review, and finally got word back from UA-cam that yes - they demand written permission from Fox. Fair Use is not a selectable option for "proof of commercial rights." Oh well...
Charlie Chaplin was 73 when his youngest child was born and the oldest ever man to father a child was reportedly Les Colley (1898 - 1998, Australia), who had his ninth child a son named Oswald to his third wife at the age of 92 years 10 months, so it's entirely possible that Weyland had Vickers at that age.
Especially if RICH and got all the lovers he could ever want.
weird al yankovic + Nostalgia critic = Decker Shado
+AirGuitarSR71 Pretty much. LOL.
He's WAAAAY funnier than NC.
NC hasn't been funny since his SJW regressive ass got butt hurt over the presidential election. Decker Shado is the last best hope for honest funny YT film reviews.
+Donald Baker The Nostalgia Critic isn't a "YT film reviewer", he uploads videos from his own website. Plus, his newest reviews are WAAAAYY better than anything else since he came back, so you've got it backwards really.
Only Decker isn't a sellout to feminists like Tamara. They might as well call the show Tamara critic at this point.
"It has one hell of a kick!" "Meow!" XD I lost it.
"Yeah, sure does!"
In a deleted scene, Mr. Waylen told DAVID to experiment the substance on one of the crew members.
why did it copy AvP's plot points?
I thought I was the only one who noticed that it ripped off concepts from the AvP movies. And what's weird is Ridley Scott said he hated those movies....yet still created one that was very much like an AvP movie ripoff....
Hi just saw the review and see a few comments saying this. Can u explain which similarities are shared? Thanks
This majestic beast! Love your reviews man!
Not too bad, but I think you missed some obvious stuff. - Why David would target Holloway - after Weyland told him to 'try harder' he needed quick answers and Holloway was drunk, not in quarters, and importantly, expendable. The fact that Holloway was mean to him might also play a part even though David is supposed to be above having a sensitive ego.
Shaw didn't just 'outrun' the Engineer - he never chased her - perhaps seeing her treatment by Weyland and Weyland's servants as reason enough to dislike and kill them, while she seemed to pose no threat.
The MedPod is not in Vickers quarters. If you pay attention to the ship layout, there is more than one door into the MedPod chamber. One is from the lounge/ bar next to Vickers chambers, and the other door is from the corridor.
The Squid didn't get out of the MedPod and thrash the lifeboat and then lock itself back in. The damage in the Lifeboat is from the rough impact with the ground.
Re: The star map, yes, not only too many matching configurations, but considering that the stars travel at differing speeds, constellations would not look the same over a time period of 33000 years.
Personally I think the playing to the creationist was 'gilding the lily'. There are subtle clues throughout the film, that despite her certainty, Shaw has reached completely incorrect conclusions about what they've found, and what it's intentions might be, and it's relation to us.
Also, I think there's a scientific error in the script, where Forde says breathing CO2 over 3% is like breathing through a tail pipe. That would be correct if she was talking about Carbon *Mon* oxide rather than Carbon *Di* oxide.
Also, I don't think the 'convenient storm' disruption the investigation was supposed to be a co-incidence. Considering the terraforming and hidden nature of the bioweapons labs, it might be reasonably concluded that it's actually a defense mechanism triggered by intruders.
these peopple went to the prometheus school of runing away fro....o nevermind.
Ding
As a graduate from Prometheus' school of running away from shit, I can say that Prometheus runs an amazing school.
"Earliest point in the timeline" OBJECTION, in AVP, Xenomorphs were shown in Ancient Egypt! I say this because of the pyramids!
Who knows
AVP is non canon.
+ゴジラFan98
Though not cannon to the Aliens series, AVP still counts as something to both the Aliens and Predators franchises.
+ゴジラFan98 neither is the bible
Stefan Forrer What's that got to do with what we were discussing and why are Atheists such assholes?
I might get some stick for this but I actually prefer the AvP movies as prequels. They clearly have glaring forms as films but they maintain a sense of mystery and menace for the Alien species rather than making them a side effect of some unimaginative Precursor species' science experiment.
AVP ruined the base behind the alien trilogy... The ALIEN trilogy was WAY BETTER with prometheus as its prequel... (And I hate how some idiots think the predators created xenomorphs)
Nigel S. I quite agree that the idea of Predators creating the Xenomorphs is very dumb and doesn't fit either species established traits. But that idea was not brought up in the AVP movies and anyway I don't find the idea of the Engineers creating them any better. The Engineers are boring as hell. Humanoids with funny faces? That's Star Trek TOS stuff! If they absolutely had to reduce the impressive, inhuman Alien creature to the by-product of some other race (a fantastically poor idea) they could at least have made them unique looking, like say, the Space Jockey. The AVP movies left the origin of the Xenomorphs mysterious, allowed both species to be badass and threatening, gave backstory for Wayland-Yutani's obsession with the things and why the corporation got so powerful. They kinda suck as actual films, the 2nd one in particular, but as back story they work a lot better.
Also, side note, but where the Alien "trilogy" is concerned, Alien 3 can feel free to bite me with both mouths. Resurrection was better than that, at least it was funny. Hell, parts of Requiem was better, when you could see it.
GriffinPilgrim
yes, indeed they could've made the engineers more creative, but they have the same DNA as a human so they need to look somewhat similar...
Nigel S. Yep, they needed that to make their "ancient aliens made humans" story work. But the thing is I hate that story. Always have. As Decker points out it kinda craps all over the evidence for evolution on Earth and, in my opinion which I freely admit is not going to be everyone's, seriously reduces the effectiveness of the Aliens. Because as it turns out, their not aliens at all, there something we made. No mystery, no enigmatic threat, just humans dicking with advanced science. I've seen that plot too much as well. At least AVP didn't ever try to give contrived origins to either species, just to their involvement with humanity. Fair's fair, they did still do the "ancient aliens made human civilisation" story, which I also hate, but less so, especially as it's clear the civilisation the Preds created was destroyed and later civilisations we did on our own.
GriffinPilgrim
agreed, decker ALWAYS makes good points AND is funny while doing so, but i liked Prometheus for its lore, and im exited for Prometheus 2 in 2016
Great review Decker, especially after watching it a second time. You really do have a knack for picking up on a film's inconsistencies. Obvious things you would think the producers would have caught.
The movie might have been directed by an atheist, but the script was written by Damon Lindelof, who always includes a lot of heavy-handed religious symbolism in his work.
Sofia Alarcon Not to mention his proclivity to only write questions, not answers.
I mean Lost was a really good tv show. So his symbolism was worth the weight for me. Lol
@@x-man9473 Im on the opposite side of the spectrum, hated lost, loved it initially but when things kept ramping up with no actual pay off or explanation just shot that show in the foot.
@@scientificbrony Meh. I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum. I realized the flaws. But I feel like the fanbase was way too whiny.
>They kept demanding answers to the smallest and most vague questions (what is the island? where is Shannon's inhaler? what is the smoke monster?). The writers were bending over backwards to create storylines to answer them.
>Meanwhile, they had to deal with actors rushing out of contracts, the "Walt" actor aging unexpectedly, a writers strike, the tv producers not giving them an end date, fans complaining about their dislike of certain characters, etc. And they had to keep rewriting the script to compensate for all of these issues.
@@x-man9473 Homie that was 2 years ago and you answered immediately within 15 minutes, holy shit; I almost had a free pizza on my hands,
you do have the best hair on UA-cam Bro! lovin' you videos!
My BIGGEST issue with Prometheus is how it predates Alien but has vastly superior technology to Alien. Yes, I know Alien was in the 1979 and this is in 2012, but unless they plan to reboot the entire thing...kind of have to disagree with that decision. The only thing I THINK could possibly explain that was if there was a drastic war that set mankind back in technology in some parts and so forth. But this thing has superior technology for even Aliens. I felt they should have stayed in the general style of technology used by that series or given a proper explanation as to why it was so vastly advanced in comparison. But I guess we'll never know.
However, I felt your obvious anti-religion crud (not your disagreements with the imperfect and relatively ignorant attempts at other beliefs they tried to put in) could have been left out.
Finally, someone who agrees with me about the tech in the movie.
Weyland was funding the operation, therefore, that's why they have the tech.
liam sheil That didn't explain anything at all.
***** i only really gave a quick description on it. :P
there's a full dedicated website on the movie to give answers, but then again, answers should really be in the movie anyway.
The best review intro ever!
13:19 Because if there's one thing archaeologists are known for, it's their impatience.
I thought it was pretty obvious that Vickers was secretly an Android like David (who also refers to Weyland as father).
'REEE! I'm a cobra!'
'Aw, I wanna boop the snoot!'
This is how horror movies should be for most of the deaths.
To sum this movie up:great visuals/photography/effects and M.Fassbender gives a cool performance as the android but everything else is total crap,specially the story.Other movies have plotholes,Prometheus is a gigantic plot-crater,I mean nothing here makes sense.No wonder,considering it's written by Lindeloff. The AVP movies weren't good but at least they were fairly entertaining as monster-movies.
+doubleP It took me a long time to accept it but you're right this movie is bad, besides the good points you mentioned. It's a guilty pleasure of mine now. I suggest the video, Scientists Destroy Prometheus, entertaining.
+Sterlington Parker This Movie only introduced the Engineers/Pilot/Space Jockeys. That's about it. Then it gives us the question why the albino alien giants wants us dead. It deliberately left more questions unanswered for sequel bait. Then Ridley stated the Engineers created this evil biology to protect themselves. Which he says will be answered in the Prometheus sequel titled Alien Covenant.
+Sterlington Parker The Xenomorph skull that was shown in Predator 2 was stated to be a joke by the director at the same time paying homage to the success of Dark Horse Comic's Aliens Vs Predators. Its not to be taken seriously. Ridley Scott at one time stated he was against the idea of a crossover between Alien and Predator on film. This is why Ridley didn't direct the first AVP film. So the Alien race that the Engineers are at war with wont be the Predators. Who or what this Alien Race is, it sure to be a severe threat to the Engineers.
I'm fairly certain that they set out to make a prequel to Alien, hence the murals of fully fledged aliens in the black goo store. Then somewhere along the way Ridley Scott had a brain fart and decided to Von Daniken the whole thing and make the aliens a by-product of some kind of 'Chariots of the Gods' rerun (yawn!). From what I've seen of the original concept, including earlier scenes, it would have made a pretty good prequel to Alien and would have made much more sense. I hate this movie and its sequel; they just seem unnecessarily pretentious and also apparently occur in a universe without Isaac Asimov to tell us what a stupid idea it is to make artificial people without failsafe programming!
So, this film ended as Lost did: resolving a few misteries, showing us a lot more that probably will be unanswered for prolongued time
When I first saw this I thought that the alien at the beginning wasn't breaking his DNA to form a human, but to form the first life on Earth, and then Humans evolved from that many years later, but apparently not. I don't really care anyway, but that would've made more sense for someone who believes in Evolution.
Frizzurd idk. The way the reviewers make it seem, all it did was form the first humans.
we clearly see green surfaces in the opening, thus plant life already exists. i would say the makers of the movie didnt have a clear concept. they just wanted to imply some kind of beginning for some parts of life leading up to humans. but that doesnt explain how early people knew to draw that starsytem in caves^^
@Degree7
We are not a "random evolutionary byproduct".
Though the mutation part of evolution is "random"( to a degree), the other important part " natural selection" is hardly " random". It is a product of the circumstances present in the environment. Claiming that the result is " random" would be like claiming that deserts are " randomly placed" on the Earth.
@Degree7
No. They are not. They are dictated by prior circumstances. Deserts exist in certain locations , not randomly, but due to rain patterns affected by mountain ranges and body of water location, which in turn is also not random as bodies of water occur where the land is low , and drainage to another location does not exceed rainfall or water added from rivers or springs. Rivers also do not occur "randomly" . They occur where water , draining from other areas find a route of least resistance to follow due to gravity( which also is not " random", but instead dictated by mass and relative distance from other massive bodies, which is also not random, but dictated by prior circumstance of distance and relation to still other massive bodies) .
We don't get "random rainfall" levels. We get rainfall levels in an environment based upon location of bodies of water, wind patterns, and relationship to mountain ranges.
The life around an organism is also part of the environment, and affect natural selection( an island devoid of large predators places different pressures on an antelope than an plain populated by lions and hyenas) is certainly affected by those other organisms . Amount of sunlight is a selection pressure and is not " random" but dictated by weather patterns, mountains, depth below the ocean, ect, ect, ect. Not "random".
Presence of prey species is dictated , not " randomly" but by availability of vegetation for said prey to eat, which depends on rainfall and fertility of the soil, neither of which is random either.
Sorry. You are waaaaaaaaaaaay off there.
Rf you were not you would get "random" large , sustained rainstorms in deserts, but you don't.
You would get "random" distribution of prey species, but you don't.
You would get " random" amounts of sunlight from day to day, week to week, year to year, but you don't.
These things are , more or less, predictable due to patterns caused by other circumstances in the environment which are also not random, but are also predictable due to other circumstances. Not random. Not really. Not hardly. Jungles are predictable. Deserts are predictable. Oceans, lakes, ponds, rivers are all, more or less, predictable in where they will occur and the conditions within them will be, more or less, predictable.
Oceans and lakes and rivers will not randomly become deserts , unless circumstances surrounding them( which won't happen randomly either). Same for forests and jungles, and mountaintops, ect, ect, ect.
@Degree7
Your existence leads back to a single sperm, therefore, you're sperm?
Another awesome video Decker. I hope they answer more questions than those than create more questions in the planned sequels? Are you excited about the new proposed Alien film?
It would be awesome if someone made a prequel to Predators, like how the Super Predators ended up on the hunting planet and their rival with the Jungle Hunters
and the later sequel would possibly be overly done sexjokes and making a meme out of what a predator and a hunter is, and that autism is next-stage human evolution.
Am I the only one that's watching this in 2018 cuz I like going back and watching decker's old reviews?
I can accept the alien weirdness, but the premise that this trillion-dollar mission would have such unprofessional and casual a-holes conducting it just breaks the movie for me. Space truckers works in the first movie, but not here. Jeez.
We're not considering the movie Space Truckers?
I guess David poisoned Hollway's drink, to see if the black goo, might help/rejuvenate his maker "Weyland". Which I suppose would be his main programing.
now I'm more excited for Neil Blomkamp's Alien 5 than I am a Prometheus sequal.
Yawn
This was my first video of yours, and now I enjoy it again. Great content!
"Maybe it deserves more, depending on how the sequel turns out."
Damnit man, you jinxed it! The sequel I mean it uh, didn't turn out well.
7:36 Concepts of Evolution have been around for many centuries, Darwin invented the mechanism to explain how it works: Natural Selection - - aka randomness
A natural selection is a pretty Far Cry from randomness
@@FrancisR420
Yeah. this is something that creationists CONSTANTLY get wrong/refuse to learn/refuse top acknowledge.
So humans were the engineers high school science fair project. Go figure.
I had a c-section with my first born son. There is no way she could have run and jumped like that even with painkillers. One could argue advanced futuristic painkillers, perhaps, but would she be so lucid and coordinated then?
I loved this movie for the suspense, the obsession over what would happen next, and the just the story in general; and religion aside, I find it interesting that the writer dared to ask what if our creators created us just because they could...asking those type of questions isn't necessarily religion, the story is based on timeless questions, and like real life some people want to travel to the end of the earth to answer the questions, and some just want to get back to reality. I honestly think this generation isn't well equipped to enjoy a slower paced, more thought provoking movie; it was marketed more as horror/action, but it was a pure, deep sci-fi film, so the viewers were pissed. Also, I'm a biased Alien fan-boy so keeping fingers crossed for shift towards prequel.
I wouldn't really call this a thought provoking movie. A six year old could of came up with these questions.........and script.
I'm glad Lindelof, won't be having anything to do with the prequel. There's leaving things to the imagination, then there's being vague as crap.
From what i seen. I think "proto-alien" is an early form of the xenomprh after the chestburster. But it couldnt burst because, maybe chest of engeneer was to hard for it.
A good theory. They may of evolved a stronger bone structure to force there way out the rib cage while the proto line of xenos went capable.
7:45 That would have been the part where I would have panicked and demanded the mission to be aborted. And I am not even an atheist!
Same I'm not atheist I'm a pantheist but even I would've aborted the mission when they said all that
The "head" joke was priceless. This should go viral a hundred million times over.
Answered in sequel? Not realy.
I’m gonna be honest I don’t count this movie or covenant as canon for the Alien franchise AT ALL Xenomorphs shouldn’t have been “created” they should’ve just been an alien species that has adapted for a much different ecosystem not “the ultimate bio weapons” they should just be alien animals
Please review Prometheus Trap. It's just another Roger Coleman influenced Prometheus ripoff. And would love to see your review.
Courtney Gentry You mean Roger Corman, right?
The scene where they crash into the engineer ship to prevent it from leaving always reminds me of Duddits from Dreamcatcher by the way all three of them have their arms raised in the air...I, Duddits!
David doesn't spike hollaways drink because he's curious. He does it to see if it might make Holloway stronger or kill him because he's testing it for Wayland. Wayland is seeking immortal life, David test it on Holloway to see its effects for Wayland. Literally explains that later in the movie.
I think Weyland is why the machine in Vickers' quarters is calibrated for male patients.
It's not even in Vicker's quarters, it's on the lifeboat where Vicker's quarters _and_ Weyland's quarters are located. There are two doors to the medpod room. One door is in a corridor, and the other door is from that fancy room with the bar, the piano and the chandelier.
If Riley Scott started a religion, i would become part of it...
+Nigel S. Join $cientology until then.
Fuck that join mine, give me money.
Great video bro, I love your style and witty comentary. U have a new sub sir!
"I hope this isn't a sign that Ridley is about to start his own religion" granted im sure a religion made by Ridley Scott would make a hell of a lot more sense then current religions (I'm looking at you creationism you too Islam)
That is offensive to 5000000+ metric tons of people.
Crocodile 184 so what?
Crocodile 184 it's not like religious people matter.
+Crocodile 184 I don't give a fuck
Your reviews are great. They help me with my english. Thank you for the good job
But this film was still crap in my opinion
How is this movie crap.
+bob bill it's trying to hard to be intelligent that's why
kelly wilson whitehead you're definitely not trying.... It's *too.
@@bobbill3594 because it's a steaming pile of shit
The Deacon was the best part of the movie. In Predators we see a subspecies of predator called the Black Super Predators. Now we see a subspecies to the Xenomorph called the Deacon.
Maybe it's a primitive xenomorph that hasn't evolved into the ones in Aliens.
the deacon at the end did not skip the chestburster stage, it is just a new species of xenomorph that are i'm assuming are going to be larger
Prometheus doesn't exist in a gray area. It's completely retarded, except for the wonderful visuals, tanks to Riddley's great eye. But the story and the characters are completely stupid, and that kills the movie entirely for me. ALL the characters' actions are completely stupid and the plot looks like it was put together by a mentally-handicapped 2-year-old child (namely known as Damon Lindelof, cf. all LOST episodes and the new STAR TREK movies).
I liked prometheus, it gave me a feeling of wonder... Sure I wish it had more to do with the xenomorphs but it's overall good, your just to simple minded...
*****
well as a HUGE fan of the ALIEN movies, i naturally go into a defensive mode whenever anyone EVEN SLIGHTLY insults the series...
*****
well, thanks for staying mature, i get ahead of myself from time to time...
+Alexandre Martins Damon Lindelof is a curse to sci-fi, and everyother area he writes I guess.
+Nigel S. we are simple minded ? you liked a movie with shitty story worst scientific crew ever going on a mission with no proof to back there theory going on a trillion dolloar mission with hi thech map ball but still gets lost while the captain looks at the map and could tell them were the exit is and im just gonna stop there because there is to much non sense in that movie but hey this guy liked it so how dare we do not share is opinion ..... your a dick pal =)
" Portable med unit. What do you need it for?". Uhm. Its a wildly practical piece of equipment. Especially while extremely far from help.
The engineer at the beginning is offering himself, It's part of their religion. The giant head in the giant head room is their god. All those cannisters are offerings. Weyland was in cryosleep this whole time, that medpod was made for him. The black goo has different effects deppending on where it's made conntact. David is an android that's duty is to take/find/destroy/make. You know... He is programmed to do anything he can to help find what weyland is looking for. Giant squid is a kind of facehugger. Remember that Xenomorph's look different depending on what creature the host is. Thats why it looked different. A long time ago there was a xeno infestation there, thats why everyone is dead. Notice that there are holes in their chests (The bodies of engineers by the door) XENO'S!!! And the little squid that later grew up to giant squid is a reference to Jesus by the way :3
First of all what the Engineer was doing at the beginning was offering his DNA to advance human evolution.
It makes no difference where the black goo makes contact. I don't know where that's coming from on your account. That wouldn't make much sense, if at all.
But on all other points that's about right.
First of all what the Engineer was doing at the beginning was offering his DNA to advance human evolution.
It makes no difference where the black goo makes contact. I don't know where that's coming from on your account. That wouldn't make much sense, if at all.
But on all other points that's about right.
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You just copied your first comment and pasted it again o-o
wtxcrazydonut yes i does make a diffrence where it makes contact.
it mutated the worms in the altar room to the snakes , it turns humans in to zombie like agressiv beings and due to infection and sex its spawns the sqiud . i would say there is enough diffrence
Blut Fetischist You can't compare contact made from a worm and contact made from a human.
That's a completely different species that could be effected a completely different way. The ideas the same though, a stronger, bigger and more hostile version of the organism.
this is actually great review. you put so much effort in research. great job man. I like the movie, I don't love it, but agree with you on almost all points
I find if funny how some people have brought religion debate into this movie i mean it fucking movie about aliens. Their no reason to have that in this movie or have people use this movie in kind of topic,.
***** We don't bash it on that basis, we do so on a mix of reasons:
1: It's fun watching them react to our bashing in such aggressive and overly fanatical ways.
2: We get loads of laughs out of the half assed arguments the fanatics make back at us.
3: The fanaticals are the gift that keeps on giving in the forms of endless comedic material, remember Banana man, he was a laugh riot! Then there is that Ken Ham fellow who just has me rolling on the floor in laughter half the time.
4: It needs to be said. The fanatics continue to try to push their views on to others and try to control how other people live by doing the thing that only the lowest form of human would do, target children in school with their misinformation and skewing of the facts (Evolution being one of such things that has been skewed and misrepresented by these fanatics in schools)
5: It also needs to be shown. These fanatics we go for are often monsters in the highest degrees whom show no sympathy to others of different view points. It is one of the purposes of free speech that we call them out and prevent such horrible views from spreading, and thus causing suffering to others at their hands. Religious bullying is indeed a problem.
6: It's damn fun! I love to destroy arguments and the religious of this level provide a perfect training ground for beginning debaters as their arguments are often full of fallacies and flaws.
Now with all this said, I would like to remind you that this post was made on the purpose of amusement, have a wonderful day my friend!
Note: Notice how I said fanatical, we rarely if ever go after the moderates unless they show high hypocrisy. We rarely base opinions on someone on religion, unless they do so themselves, or in otherwords, are fanatics.
Love this! Wish you all the best!
Nice review, but it seems like you are very influenced by nostalgia critic
Shaykh Ra_id Indeed. I won't deny it - but I like to at least think being myself differentiates my reviews from his.
Yeah. You have you own style.
I would say he influenced by the format but his delivery and persona are very much his own ^^
I feel the delivery is much the same... Even the inflexion in the voice -still entertaining though
Keep in mind that Critic was clearly influenced by MST3K.
Love how your cat meows right on que
This movie is a masterpiece. FUCK THE HATERS.
I have only ONE problem, the scientist who touches the snake, that's stupid, no one would do that. Apart from that it's perfect.
Medina Sod i like to think that the other guy he is with gave him some of his "tobacco" while they were wandering around lost resulting in his stupid actions.
Medina Sod someone with a fucking brain... not like this bitchy bum, who wants to see a new alien movie.
Funny thing is, I remember, indeed, HAD one of those love seats. Early 1990s, an almost exclusive special they had at Rent-A-Center. You kept that thing in great shape for almost 20+ years old.
Decker, we get that you are an Atheist, but you don't gotta bash us religious people just because what we do and believe makes no sense in your perspective.
He's just pointing out that it's an exceedingly flimsy context to spend all that money for a research expedition to some place that legitimately may not have anything on it, not to mention how exceedingly fuckin dangerous that'd be if there was shit on it and they'd probably be a little perturbed if some rando just lands on their planet and proceeds to try and study them.
Hamm3rstr1k3 I get that.
It's a perfectly valid "bashing." We have a scientist in this movie who believes thing because she chooses to...that's not very scientific. Religious people choose to believe things in spite of or without any evidence all the time, but that's not how a scientist should think.
blackholedreams There is never definite evidence. It's impossible to disprove God's existence.
Saying some place is uninhabitable reminds of the time my ex and I rented a boat to camp on an island in northern Wisconsin. We'll we showed up a half hour before a violent storm, we tried to find the island and the storm hit quickly after our start. I could not navigate and basically could not see 8 foot ahead of us! It was very confusing and we set down on a sliver of land that would be by no means considered inhabitants but I insisted it was the edge of the island and we set up tent to get out of the elements. In the morning, luckily the island we were aimed for was only like 4 football fields away.
21:18 Was that an "Alien Nation" reference?! Oh please do "Alien Nation", Shado.
Nice review. I wanted so much to like this movie. I watched it 5 times to see if maybe I was missing something but liked it less each time. It is telling that Scott went from three prequels with no xenos to calling it Alien and having xenos after Bloomkamp got positive responses for wanting to make Alien 2.5.
Nice opening.... unexpected and sooo appreciated
I never imagined a couch could be so thought provoking. :) Great opening!
You really do have the best hair. How do you do it? I try not to ask that ironically but it's impossible to say it any other way.
I enjoy your videos to the utmost extremity, Please keep up the great work! c:
I'd say prometheus is more of a spin off, yes it's set before but it's a story based off one scene from alien, when they find the derelict and the fossilised space Jokey.
my opinion on xenomorphs is that they envolved and changed over time makes kind of sense why that last one is only similar to the normal ones
Short and sweet, answers, amici:
He asked Holloway what he'd do for his dreams. Likely wouldn't have spiked the drink if he didn't reply "anything"
Deacon can't be a proto xenomorph. There's a mural to the full grown one in their ship. Weird Al calls it out at 11:46
the alien at the end is called a deacon, its a much larger version of the xenomorph, some say it's a progenitor of the xenomorph, or it has taken on the engineers DNA.
Yo decker shado you should review "venom" your reviews are the only reliable ones
I too was scratching my head at all the illogical 'science' and ridiculous motivation, however I did read later that there were elements from two separate scripts which were bolted together and possibly explains plot holes and inconsistencies 🤷♂️
Never mind the possibility of that pattern of stars coming up several times in the universe, what about stellar drift? I don’t think the first humans were looking up at Ursa Major or Orion. Could’ve been that such a constellation use to exist but after thousands of years the stars moved.
Why was the android dying his roots?? Does his hair grow? Why the fu*k would he have new growth? I could understand an allover bleach job, but the roots? What the actual fu*k...