Blacksmithing - Making forge lube *4K
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- Опубліковано 22 бер 2023
- This is a short video showing one recipe for a good forge lubricant. Useful when punching and drifting holes. This is far from the only way to make one. There are numerous recipes based on different substances. This particular one originates from a well known blacksmith named Uri Hofi, that sadly passed away recently.
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Rest in peace Uri Hofi and thank you very much Torbjörn Åhman for passing the information.💐
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Usually when the guy doing the videos makes it look effortless, they did multiple takes and edited it heavily. This time it looks effortless because the guy knows things and is a forge-wizard.
Thanks, I edit too :)
@@torbjornahman shhhhhh! 😂
The "multiple takes" is in the fact that his forge-wizardry is many years in the making.
I watch a LOT of blacksmith videos but this is the first time I see or even hear about forge lube - pretty cool!
I have seen a tool dipped in something before but never knew what it was. I thought it was coal dust.
It makes a huge difference, punching a hole.
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It’s always a pain to rivet a drift in a hole you’re punching. Life got a lot easier when I started using punch lube 👍
Unless you deform the punch in the hole... ouch...
@@torbjornahman that would not be fun to drill out
Rest in peace Uri Hofi.
Thanks Torbjörn Åhman for the video, I send you greetings from the south of Argentina.
Beautiful drift ! I see the Anvil can be used for many things….a chemists bench being one of them. 👍. JC🌵
Absolutely!
One of those simple engineering tips, that saves a whole bunch of frustration and impatience !
Lube wont just make things release easier. It will also change how parts compress. A lubed die will exhibit less barreling due to frictional factors while forging a part. For steel industry typically uses graphite powder when a lubricant is used.
It makes total sense!
What's barreling?
@@cholulahotsauce6166 Imagine crushing a cylander from the flat ends. Ideally we would get a perfect cylander. But friction prevents the ends from squishing out like the center. The resulting shape looks like a barrel.
I have both powders on the shelf but it never occurred to me to use either, let alone both, as a hot lube for punching/drifting. Wow, it's like magic compared to coal dust. Thank you!!!
It is! I will try mixing some powder with melted beeswax also, and see how that works.
@@torbjornahman I really like the water soluble mix you have here. I think it seems to be better than if you have a flamable medium. I may be wrong, but this worked surprisingly well
@@Jimmy_in_Mexico Yes, just be aware that it is water based... so don't quench any red hot H13 punches or drifts in it (although I have seen people do that too)!
@@torbjornahman This is why I make my punches and drifts from Atlantic 33. If they get too hot I can just heat them up to dull red and re-quench them in water and I'm right back in business. Sometimes if I leave the drift in the steel long enough it'll actually get to the right temperature that I can just pull it right out of the steel and re-quench it so that saves a step. This is why I call Atlantic 33 "magical happy steel" and it's become my go-to steel for tools.
@@torbjornahman разогретый воск смешать с льняным маслом
I’m extremely impressed by how easily that drift fell out of the hole
Bet you forgot about me! Still noticing your editing. That nice reset so that you could show yourself adding the soap was completely unnecessary... and completely worth it. That little bubble in the air made me grin so much. Thank you, once again, for your details in these videos.
I laughed at the tiny bubble too!
Thunder Bear’s Bubbles
I am definitely saving this video so I can write everything down later.
As I wrote in the description, this is one recipe of many. Be aware this is a water based lube, so don't quench anything that doesn't like water... I will probably make a wax based variant also, to try out.
Много времени экономить будете с такой смесью! Браво! Тому кто придумал эту смесь: графит и молибден!
Спасибо за ролик. С большим нетерпением жду ваши видео! Респект!
Тем не менее, Леонид Архангельский рулит!
@@user-id8gy3vw2f? При чем тут он?
May Uri Rest In Eternal Peace. ❤️❤️
It's almost hard to believe how well it works!! Mr. Hofi will be remembered by anyone using this recipe. Thanks for sharing and take care!!
Thanks for sharing the recipe Thorbjörn. RIP Uri ⚒
I completely forgot about this stuff. Our Welding and Metal Shop teacher told us about it and gave us a recipe, but we never used it - mostly because we only spent a few days on Blacksmithing. Thank you for the memory and reminder... Now, if only I could remember the recipe.
RIP Uri Hofi.
I remember my teacher showing us the Hofi Hammer technique.
Torbjörn is showing us the secrets of blacksmithing magic. Very practical.
The molybdenum should gradually build up on the sides of the drift making it really smooth
Watching it slide out so effortlessly @ 3:40 has me sold. I'm definitely trying this stuff when I get my new shop set up!
"Plop" - now there's a good Swedish word :D Excellent video!
It's actually "plopp" in Swedish :) The sound when something drops in water or a cork releases from a bottle.
@@torbjornahman Yes, it is the same here in the UK - although it has an alternative meaning - like many things. :)
Rest In Peace Hofi
Thank you!
Going to have to make some of this stuff! Thanks for sharing 😊
It's clearly something else compared to coal dust... I haven't tried the salt based products. They are good too it seems.
@@torbjornahman i used them extensively in an industrial hot forging environment and they are decent but not even close to the graphite molybdenum based products. parts slide along the surface much better of the tool and less heat transfer and better release. the only "White lube" product that has a similar structure to graphite is Boron nitride which works wonderfully but is extremely expensive and not an affordable option
@@broadriverforge Cool, good to know!
Brother Torbjörn!! I like your recipe! I have used graphite and beeswax for years. I love it but the wax can smoke. I think I will try your idea. Ha! I always do. TIP: agricultural graphite is the best choice - at least here in the U.S. Far cheaper than what can be bought at the hardware store. Ag graphite comes in 5 lb jugs for a fraction of the cost. My best to you and yours!
Sweet, good tip! Thanks
Man that works a treat, Torbjorn! Seems like it could be used for other things as well. Moly and graphite are some of the best lubes, imho. Thanks for sharing this recipe from Mr. Hofi in his memory!! Great editing on the 2 camera shots!!
Thanks 👍
Sorry for your loss.
Love watching you making your forgeries.
Impressive! Thank you for showing us!
A Small lump of coal or powdered coal as been used in industrial for hundreds of years ,I use it my self for deep hole punching up-to 10” in carbon steel .for drop forge it was hard wood sawdust .👍
Sure but this is 10x more effective :) Much more expensive but it works really really well for some applications at least.
@@torbjornahman high there ,you are right it was a information to anybody to use, there are thing that have been lost to blacksmith and they need to be documented ,for example just one foil chewing gum wrapper in a coke forge will stop you fire welding .A clean fire and fuel is very important .Red lead powder mixed with paraffin is a barrier to molten cast iron ,you don’t need to use flux to get a good fire weld ,the scarf is the most important part .The more heats used to forge something degrades the parent metal.Coal as to be coked to be used in a open forge .black hot metal makes skin stick to it . Tempering is done after hardening .wrought iron starts its life as a bloom.Upsetting before you bend can give you a radius free bend .to calculate how long a revert needs to be to make a full cup is (the diameter half the diameter +1/8 of a inch.just a few things that I have used in the past 50 years of blacksmithing Kind regards JimRT.
That's an awesome concoction!
Condolences for your loss.
Your work deserves 4k! ❤😊
It's always a pleasure watching you work!
Beautiful video!
Great Idea Torbjorn Thanks for a great video
Thanks so much for shareing. I now have a power hammer and want to finish making your pumpkin candle holder. This should make punching thr tapered hole for the candle easier.
Excellent! Thank you Torbjörn.
Thanks for the formula!
That lube is amazing! Thanks for sharing!
That certainly looks very convincing. Thanks for sharing this.
Amazing stuff ! thanks for sharing.
WOW can not wait to try it!!
A fitting tribute, to an obviously talented Craftsman.......Kudos.
HOLY MOLEY! THAT'S GENIUS!!!
Video looked crisp!
Excellent information. Thank you!
Love your work, and your videos!
Wow, amazing how parts just slide apart with this!
un believable!!! thanks for this post
Thanks for this very informative video, it will be a great help to those making axes, hammers etc. Condolences for the loss of your friend Uri Hofi, it is sad to lose those we admire and trust. Regards from Down Under.
This is some great stuff Mr. Torbjörn. You must be a true Master Blacksmith. Job well done fella.
That is really good. Thank you.
4K looks good to me! Thanks.
Wonderful tip and a very impressive demon .
This video answered a lot of my problems
Thanks for the awesome content and great info!
Absolutely have to make this stuff!
Great work. You did very professional.
Excellent! Will checking this out...
Thats awesome. I had no idea there was such a thing, but it seems pretty handy!
Made some works like a charm. The best I ever used. Thank you
Great!
Wow! That's impressive
Learning something new every day. Thank you for teaching me. Keep up the good work. 💪❤️👌
Exquisite plop action.
such a beautiful video. and its literally blacksmithing... crazy
That's incredibly effective! Almost magical!
Good idea 💡!
Wow! 4K & I can almost see the molecules mixing in the pot ;)
That's a useful "magic trick"! I'll have to whip some of this up for myself. Without the liquid soap and the water, it's basically what I use to lubricate woodstove hinges and similar in situations where it's going to be exceptionally hot for long periods of time. Any conventional lubricant would simply cause issues as it burned.
That’s amazing stuff thanks for sharing
WOW!! Thanks for the information. Life will get definately easier with this punch lube.
WOW!! Now that's some great stuff there all right.
Thanks! A useful lesson.
Wow nice trick! Thanks a lot
Torbjörn, always keep your airflow hood running, specially with lubricants' use. I know that can make your shop very cold but some of these fluids can be absorbed into the body very easily.
When Iearned punching holes the master told me, to put a little amount of coal grit on the surface of the piece and into the advancing hole, this worked out also very well. I enjoy your videos very much, the sound of the power hammer is very familiar to me.
Regards from germany
Yes, that is mostly what I have done until now. This is way better though.
I liked the plop soundeffect.
Greetings from Germany;
Marcus
@torbjornahman Thank you for sharing this recipe. I made it up and have been using it in my rivet hole drifts. It works great, like nothing before.
Great!
Nice! I'll have to try making this stuff. I've been using just some powdered graphite recently and it's actually worked surprisingly well; was going to mix it with some melted beeswax as I've heard that's a decent punch lube but this stuff looks pretty promising and will certainly stick to the punch a whole lot better.
Thank you my friend
Great Video Thanks!!👍👍
Fantastic!
Thanks for this
Wow! That's really good stuff
It is!
Man! Thanx a lot for this recipe!!! Have been fiddling around with store-bought graphitegrease but boy, does it smell nasty. This really is going to help me a lot. Keep up the good work, always enjoy your video's!
Magnifique idée, super vidéo comme d'habitude.
Bravo pour tout votre travail!
Salutations de Suisse!
Very nice invention 😎👍
Very cool!
Looks like a real game changer Torbjörn !
Yea, it's a huge difference with or without. Then, how it compares to other release agents can be subjective I guess. Try it!!
That’s pretty slick! ;-)
You beat me to it. Another blacksmithing pun.
I used to moly coat bullets for reloading and after reading on the bottle of molybdenum disulfide the extreme heat and preesure it can withstand I mixed some with linseed oil and used that as a drift lube with great results. I was wiping it on though and this dipping technique looks much better. Gonna have to get some graphite and see how much that helps too.
Cool. I will try to mix in some powder in melted beeswax also to see how that works. The water based is good for dipping, but will sediment with time so you need to stirr it after a while.
For lead bullets. Try powder coat powder. In a old toaster oven. You can color for different loads. You will get looks at the range.
@@torbjornahman Never Seize is essentially the same, doesn't sediment or dry up and a lot cheaper than putting this together . It uses aluminum in place of the moly which makes it safer. The fumes coming off molybdenum are carcinogenic Why reinvent the wheel ?
@@maplebones Reinvent? I just presented something that has been used for a long time. A product like "Never Seize" isn't available everywhere.
Thank you for sharing the recipe!! Looks like it will make life much easier. But I do have to say it with intent of joking around only amd no disrespectful. I will have to say I am shocked you didn't use boiled linseed oil. You use that for everything! LOL😂😂
I'm amazed you were able to mix those powders without sneezing. RIP Uri Hofi.
I wear a respirator, as always :)
Good stuff.
Very nice and very helpful and definitely information video this week. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Forge lit. Keep Making. God Bless.
Thank you!
@@torbjornahman your welcome
Thanks for sharing
I love your videos there amazing
Fantastiska videos. Genom dig har jag lärt mig massvis om smide och jag känner att jag är på god väg att bli nybörjare smed och få leva ut barndomsdrömmen till slut.
Fantastic videos. Through you, i've learned so mush and I'm well on my way to become a blacksmith novice. Childhood dream soon accomplished. =)
Trevligt! Tack
nice job 👍
I'm must try make some of this for myself
It makes it look much cleaner too!