Simgrade VX Pro - THE BEST BANG FOR BUCK PEDALS ON THE MARKET!
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- Опубліковано 28 бер 2024
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I have been racing these for a few months now. The best pedal set I've ever tried and these are the cornerstone of my simrig. Bases and peripherals can come and go, VX-Pro's are here to stay.
I've had my VX-Pro's for well over a month now, and they are absolutely effing brilliant. Solid, incredibly adjustable, smooth and precise. You can set them up to be soft, hard, long travel, short travel, single stage, dual stage. They can be whatever you want. I had a set of Fanatec V3's, upgraded to Asetek Invictas, couldn't stand the Invictas, then got a set of VX-Pro's that are perfect for me. They are fascinatingly smooth as well thanks to the spring based design, no squish or stickyness from elastomers or hydraulic piston seals.
Hi! I just got mine today and for some reason the break pedal is not registering any input when pressing it, the throttle and clutch work just fine, but the break pedal doesn't give me anything above "RAW 650", any work around you know of or you think I just got a faulty pedal...? Thank you and have a nice one!
PD. Do you know of a discord server/FB group for simgrade products owners?
How would you explain the difference from V3's to the VX-Pro's? Possibly might make the jump
@Cevap05 Smoother, and more adjustable. The VX Pros use springs, so you don't get any of that "squishy" sensation that comes with elastomers. Depending on how you set them up they can be either softer or MUCH harder than the V3's, entirely up to you. Highly recommended upgrade over the V3's!
@@enriquelemus1337 Hey, I am also having this issue. Did you find a solution?
@@johnspencefareal420 hey! At some point I just gave up on it, even uninstalled the software, and after 2 weeks they advised me (support team from simgrade) to change the bolts I used to fix them to the pedal base bc they might’ve been too tall, so I replaced the bolts with smaller ones, re-installed the software and gave it a try again, it worked!, the thing is that the bolt thing seemed a bit suspicious to me, so I swapped the bolts again (to the bigger ones that I initially used) and the pedals kept working well, I kept the bigger bolts and I’ve had no troubles so far, so I couldn’t really tell you what really fixed the issue, might’ve just been the re-installation of the software. Hope it helps even a little bit mate, good luck!
(One thing I must say is that even they did reply to all my emails, it took them like 5 business days to reply to each of them)
Pre-ordered these on March 2023 and I couldn't be more satisfied. So much nicer than my previous set, Fanatec V3.
Yeah, I bought the V3 pedals and I'm just not happy with them. I've been wanting to replace them within a few months of buying them. But pedals are so expensive. Thanks for your comments on these. I'll bite the bullet and buy these.
Yeah, same path. So much better than V3.
@@julieredmon1521why you didn’t like the v3 pedals?
@@nanoversein what way are they better? I’m curious because I have the V3’s and can’t see any problem with em
@YMSimRacing The V3 pedals are too sensitive on the brake pedal. I have to turn sensitivity to 100% in the software and still locking up the brakes in non-ABS cars. It's not super bad, just not happy with the braking.
What a timing. I ordered these pedals yesterday including a Simagic Haptic motor. Can't wait!!
Oh boi, are you in for a treat! 🎉 Have the exact same combo and super happy
Are there special adapters to mount the reactors on these pedals?
Have you received yours? I ordered it this week but still nothing besides the order confirmation? (Central EU for reference)
@@YMSimRacing I found someone on Etsy who was 3d printing adapters for them. I'm sure there are plans out there if you already have a 3d printer.
Totally agreed with what you said in the review. I have been using the VX Pro for the past 8 months and cannot pick a single fault.
It's great to see new equipment coming out. It's gives people choices and keeps other manufacturers on their heel and toes 😉😃.
Thanks Mr. DC 👏🏾👍🏾
I have the 3 pedal set with the add-ons (heel-plates + side throttle plate). I have had them since Nov 2023 and I am glad I bought them.
I’ve had my vx pro’s a few months now and all I can say is wow!!I upgraded from TM Tlcm ‘s which I modded with rubber bushings and difference is night and day. I wanted stable braking along with the progressive feel that you get from elastomers and this product delivers. Built like tanks they are! Thanks Dave for bringing simgrade into the spotlight . I think there are only a couple of fellow UA-camr sim channels that have covered them. 👍👍
Holy crap im happy these going main stream !!! These are my favorite ever
Bought these in November, €475, insane. I think they were available for €420 during black friday. They feel so natural below my feet now, completely effortless braking and throttle control. Also perfect for socks. I thought long about pedals with vibration motors but honestly, I don't think I could ask for a better pedal set, they're perfect, not missing anything. I personally don't use the 2 stage braking, I need 100% in many cars for the first moment of max downforce. Also don't need any add-ons, I use them without any baseplate, just mounted on my rig. They are not as tall as the Simlab XP1, so even with smaller feet I can use them without heel support
Dave I have had theses since the Early Production purchase was available from Simgrade last year March 2023, Love them have been bullet proof, Definitely BIg Bang for your Buck $$.
I just ordered a set of these. Excited to get them on the rig.
I watch you race and I'm always paying attention to your braking and throttle inputs and your corner rotation. You are extremely smooth, so the fact that you're keeping these pedals on the rig speaks volumes to me. I've been wanting to replace my pedals but so many choices and I've got so much money tied up in my gear already. So trying to hold off until I know for sure which ones to buy. These might be the ones. Thank you for the video and the honest reviews you do.
There's so much choice right now and everything is really good tbh. These are amazing though 😁
Thanks for the good review as usual Dave.
Always appreciate your reviews as like you advise us, tested from the angle of a sim racer, not just a product reviewer 🧡
Appreciate that 🙏
This is the first " high" quality pedal set I have ever contemplated on buying. The quality of these for $550 is insane to me. Every other company is just so dang expensive that I don't even consider them but give it some time and I might just pull the trigger on these
I’m so impressed and refreshed that you gave there such a good review with your ties to partners
Totally agree with you. Bought the 3- pedal set on last years black friday including tax for 599€ and it´s well spent money. I was a bit doubtful with the loadcell for throttle and clutch, because of the travel way of the throttle especially, but it´s totally fine, totally happy with the pedals
Agree 👍 they are great!
Great review Dave. I’d add that what’s special about these is they don’t use any elastomers, all are spring based, which is what sold me after CSL V2s. No more stable load / pressure release that’s typical for elastomer pedals. ❤ them
Simgrade makes some awesome pedals. I have a set of Thera and they are incredible.
These pedals look amazing. Such a different functionality. Seems like they might be changing the norm.
Very interesting. Appreciate the video mate, as im currently looking into a new pedal set 👌
Am now 3 months in with these pedals and I live them. Went from logitc G29 with load cell mod, to Fanatec V3 and than to Simjack Pro. Of all these the VX-PRO'S are the best. It was between these and the P1000 and Race Beyond Matter's video pushed towards the VX-PRO'S
Nice! What do you find different between the vx pros and sim jack pro's! Ive had the sim jack pros for about a year now. Never can get the brake to feel good. They are way better than the g29s I used to have though. I've bought all kinds of mods and am tired of dumping money into them. Thanks
@@malice930 main problem with the simjacks os a design flaw that caused the plate holding the load cell brake to bend. This causes the brake travel to become longer after time and you become inconsistant.
I agree with what dave said in this video's about most load cell pedals being fine. The simjacks did their job for most parts. But I was in yhe same boat as you where I was constantly trying to find upgrades to make them better. There comes a point where you just have to tell yourself to get something better.
You wont become much quicker with these pedals but I like knowing that my pedals wont just randomly break from use. I replaced 4 load cells on the Simjacks...
I'm in the same boat. Looking to upgrade and I've been on the fence with Simagic P1000 or P2000, or something else. The rest of my gear is Simagic, but these pedals.. I'd never heard of them but they look pretty fantastic.
Thanks for the video, Dave! I'm currently using Fanatec V3s, which have served me well, but its time to upgrade for some better brake feel. At the moment my pick is the Heusinkveld sprints, but thanks for showing me something else to consider. If anyone has recommendations, or really likes their sprints, let me know!
I've had the sprints and although they are great, these are better imo 👍
Yeah love mine, as you say, they're so quiet, I've had Fanatec v3's and VRS pedals and both ended up squeaky and needed cleaning, greasing.
Personally I found the yellow brake spring too strong even on lowest setting, I have the red spring now and this is much better for me.
I did find the setup odd where there is no real stop point and the two stage feeling Dave said is spot on, it's the same for the throttle too which is weird, but just set 100% just under where you feel the spring fully compress and it's fine (otherwise you may only reach 95% throttle in game).
Also the bolt pattern is a little odd so had to drill new holes, also because the front and rear bolts are quite close you need a strong base plate, my old GT Omega Titan's base plate bent from the force.
Highly recommend these.
So I went ahead and bit the bullet and ordered these. Much more expensive than I would have liked but hopefully worth it. In USD it was around $668, with about $80 being shipping. Not horrible.
Thoughts on them? Just placed my order as well
I think rally and/or drifting would be a good stress test for pedals, as you're often rough with them in these disciplines
But do they come with The Pringles socks? That’s what we all want to know 😁 nice review
My wife thinks your voice sounds amazing. Great video Dave.
That's the first time someone has said that. Thank your wife for me 😁
proper engineering..
I’d love to see how these stack up against the VRS pedals, they’re the top of my choice currently
Najam Simtec s120 clears hard
Dave great review I’m between these and the vrs which do you think are better??
commenting to feed the algorithm
Thanks for this as I’ve been thinking of changing my Fanatec LC pedals. Kept getting drawn to the super expensive pedals but these look great without the higher cost. Now just need to decide if I buy direct or from a uk supplier for a little more 😂
Race Anywhere are a reseller and if you use the code SRS5 I believe you'll get 5% off. Not my code btw 👍
@@davecammthanks. Didn’t work but that’s ok may order from them anyway. Hopefully quicker delivery and no mucking around with VAT and DHL.
Hallo, thanks for the review. I´m thinking actually about replacing my Heusinkfeld Sprint. Do you think it is worth it? And what is better than for example at the Ultimate + you drove in the past.
Those lucky who bought pre release price was €299 for 2 set like 2 years ago, €399 for 3set i think
Interesting.. im on the looks for something better than my Sprint, and these look amazing. Would prefer if they came with Pringles socks tho 😅
Which one is better for you sim lab pedals or that sim grade ?
Defo need to get me a set of these. Anyone wanna buy my HE Sprints off me £500 only had them 2 months :D
Thanks for the video Dave!
Taking the price aside, would you prefer these ones or the XP1?
Thanks!
The VX Pros I think. They've gone back on the rig anyway 😁
@@davecamm Thanks for that feedback! I'll change my buying list then. 😁
Dave would you recommend the Invicta pedals as an ungrade over these or my pedals the Venym Atrax. I’m after a means of getting the haptics mounted on my pedals and can’t find an adaptor anywhere. Hydraulics is a nice bonus.
I prefer these over the atrax and Invicta's. I wouldn't say it's an upgrade as they're all great.
We will soon start to sell an adapter for the simagic haptic reactors
Timo / SIMGRADE
Damn, i just have bought a new Scooter... well, maybe later this year
Nice time on Gt4 Today we are together with my dad a and sorry for Push you
The contact at the hairpin? All good 😁
I have the set of two and I'm very satisfied with them. The brake is in my opinion not really two stage though. It just gets progressively stiffer the further you push. Not like a clear and defined second stage. I run it on the stiffest setting with the yellow spring (there are stiffer and softer springs available but not included) and that works good for me. I tried the softer settings too but then the "second stage" or rather the progressive transition feels a bit mushy to me. I'm nowhere near your level though, so that could be just me. The throttle is really good. The software is anything but intuitive and i haven't managed to load my own pre-saved profiles. Loading the factory profile works just fine, but if I want anything else, I have to re-calibrate and save to device. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but there is not much to it and I wouldn't know what to do differently to make it work. They perform really good but they are also built to budget. The box with the electronics for example is i believe 3d printed and feels very fragile. Compared to other pedals, they have a very small footprint, which I like very much.
When I get to the 2nd stage I'm probably pushing 80kgs so that's maybe why. Maybe you're not pushing hard enough 😁
@@davecamm Well, judging by the value in the configuration software, we push about the same, but the reading might be different on our pedals. I will try to increase the threshold, if you think it might help.
Definitely 2-stage feel but you need to set them up that way.
@@nanoverse So, how did you set them up?
You can use the spacers to set a hard stop so there is a clearly defined 1st stage.
Thank you for this review,
I have Sim Lab XP1 since your review last year and enjoy them very much; I for one dislike the industrial look the Heusinkveld and these Simgrade have but let's be subjective : One of the reason I would not buy Simgrade if I would be in the market is that I found them way too complicated; there are too many nuts and bolts that can loosen up over time, and they will ! :(
Also the mounting plate are small and must put tremendous force on the t-nuts, might not be a factor on premium profile rigs but most people are using metal rigs like Next Level Racing F-GT or lower tier profile rigs with thinner aluminium parts.
I think these pedals, despite the attractive starting price point are really intended to compete in the high end market, where I do not think they belong; maybe if I would try them I would change my mind :)
Such a strange message from somebody that has not tried them.
@@victorcatorz5731 Why is it strange ? I did not dispute the way they feel driving them ( Dave's word is enough for me ) but just pointed things why I would not buy them
@@altransamaltransam95 they are far from complicated. I came from simjack pro pedals that are very simple and the VX-pro are less complicated than those.
Been abusing these for 3 months now and not a single nut or bolt came loose.
@@victorcatorz5731 Glad you like them and thank you for clarifying Happy Easter :)
@@altransamaltransam95 no problem. Happy Easter to you to.
Oh god these are really expensive haha. I guess I should have expected them to be. I'm looking to spend maybe half when I do upgrade from my worn Fanatec CSR Elites haha. I just cannot justify €701,80!
I loved the pedal review and all, but I think the real and most important question is, Where can I get a set of those Pringles socks and how much they help with lap time in quali and race pace?
2 tenths per lap apparently 😁
2nd?
Pringles
How are these compared to heusinkveld?
Right up there. Better than the sprints for sure
Just waiting on Simlab pedals to come , did I make a mistake ?
No, you'll be super happy with the simlab pedals 👍
I know you said that you get no kickbacks from Simgrade but what about Pringles 👀
You should see my seat. I've had so many pringles kickbacks its full of crumbs 😁
🤣
These over the Hveld Sprints?
Yes 👍
@@davecamm purchased I'm excited thanks for putting this out. I have the sprints and excited for these!
These look incredible. A bit of a shame that their only UK Reseller appears to be marking the price up by a decent amount. Euro conversion price + VAT should be £560 ... their UK reseller are shifting them at £620!
I see that you don’t use the Porsche buttonbox anymore ? Any specific reason ?
I've just not mounted it back up. On my to-do list 😁
@@davecamm Maybe you don’t like it 🤔😅👍
The uprights on the p1x pro are angled so need to get a small bracket so it sits correctly
@@davecamm Perfect ! I love Grid Engineering products are 200% full quality
So these are better then simlabs pedals?
Those two are my top pedals right now. I can't choose between the two 👍
They don't seem bad for the price.
As with all things they will suit some and not others but that's OK as we are all different and like different things.
I wondered why you were jumping into so many different cars. 😂
Another good non review review Dave.
👍
The interesting thing about these pedals is they are massively adjustable, so unless someone really really doesn't like the pedal plates then they should be suitable for damn near everyone. I went from Fanatec V3's, to Asetek Invictas, and then to these VX-Pro's. They can be set up softer and longer travel than the Fanatec, or harder and with even shorter travel than the Invicta's, all while being 100% smooth. Best of all worlds in my opinion, I would not swap these out for anything - and now that I have a Simagic Haptic unit attached to the brake I don't even think I would bother with the Simucube Active pedals.
@@texnorthmanmay I ask how the haptic works, how it connects to the brake pedal and how is it wired up. Is there any software required to run the haptic.
I am very interested in doing exactly as you have done 👍
Thanks for your time.
Better than VRS?
I've never used the VRS so couldn't say
prices are way higher than you said it shows me 474,81 € for 2set and 650,93€ 3set + tax and shipping
Ya definitely it worth that price
Those images/prices were from the website this morning (29th March) 👍
and when i looked today they where higher like i said same day ^^@@davecamm
@@davecamm I just noticed it too, prices show much higher. I think it's because you're visiting the site from the UK so you're seeing the Ex-VAT prices.
Bought the 2 pedal combo in November for 475€ incl. VAT in EU, plus shipping. So the price is pretty stable I’d say
rispetto al prezzo detto costano gia' 120 € in più...
Prices the same when I've just checked 👍
Unless it automatically adds tax wherever you are?
@@davecamm C'mon Dave, you have to answer that in Italian!!!
Who really cares how a set of pedals look? They sit under ur desk and u never look at them 😂
547 euro? Simjacks and the many replicas are still the cheapest + best budget option.
1st 😂
Loadcell in throttle and clutch are useless anyways and a way to over charge for nothing special! Plus bland ass metal color to lazy to powder coat them for there price
As I said style preference is subjective 😁