Nobody needs more than this | VRS DFP Pedals Review
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Are these the currently best pedals you can buy? My VRS DFP Pro Pedal Review is finally here.
Link to the adjustment video: • How to adjust the VRS ...
0:00 - Intro and Disclaimer
0:27 - Overview
1:25 - Build quality
2:29 - Electronics
3:03 - Throttle
5:07 - Brake
6:13 - Clutch
6:42 - Software
8:44 - Driving
11:46 - VRS vs. Competition
13:55 - Verdict and Score
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great review! i agree completely. the pedals are so much fun. it's like back when i started obsessing with sim racing! you feel the improvement instantly. thanks also for the great advice regarding spring / where download firmware / software. you probably have saved me hours with this video. also i'd like to mention their great customer support via discord. i had a problem with installing the firmware. within minutes the community and an actual costumer support guy solved my problem. thumbs up. i am a fan of both the review and the product. great work
Ooh been waiting for this. I have the VRS wheelbase and these pedals have been tempting me for quite a while
These bone honest reviews are amazing. I love the 0 bias!
Really great overview with details that don’t ovewhelm. I want a more refined input and I am looking forward to getting a set.
Great review, had no idea of the quality of these pedals, a contender to upgrade my V3. Thanks for the tip
wohooo got mine today! haven't tried them yet. just wanted to say how pumped i am that dan made a video practically the same day! woohooo!
I had Sprints on Pre Order but just cancelled and ordered these as they've just come back in stock here in Australia. Looking forward to using them soon!
Agreed, great pedals, the only thing I'd say is your opening statement about them appearing as a typical standard pedal set, the absense of bumpers and implementation of the cam for progressive resistance would say otherwise to me but I'm being pedantic 😊 good review and easy to watch.
I was waiting for these since August and finally got to purchase them a couple days ago. Almost cancelled my reservation and picked up ultimates but at the last minute, made the decision to wait. After watching this video I'm glad I did! They arrive on Tuesday and I can't wait. I have had the VRS dd system for a couple months now and love it. Thanks for finally posting a review, there aren't many out there and people need to know about these pedals.
Same here. I ordered mine in August and just was able to order. They will be here in the morning 😁 can't wait to try them out with my vrs DD!!
Where you guys are located? For EU the waitlist is still in June.
@@Huseynelli East US
How are they?
My pedals got delivered while watching this lol. So stoked!
Great review Dan, Bang on with how I feel about them. Just wishing maybe to have a stiffer spring in the brake pedal. But it would probably end up in the bin with the blue spring.
Red Spring and just work on your adjustments both length and spacers and from there tuning in the software......I do this in NASCAR truck series a lot because different tracks have different braking requirements as well as type of brakes on the car itself so you need to adjust accordingly!
great review Dan
Great review Dan.
Well done, keep them coming!
great video Dan
Had them since the first couple weeks they came out. Still feel as good as day 1. Watched the stream where ya changed the spring. Thankfully mine took approx 30secs with no issues. Only snag I had was adjusting the angle if the foot plate. tolerances were really tight in mine and had to loosen off the supports as well to slacken it up. Otherwise pedals have been flawless.
25 minutes into trying to swap my spring. Hands are fucking bleeding lmao
Dad Suzuki needs his own channel - will subscribe for sure.
These pedals are so good. So happy with them
Sold my V3 pedals, got these yesterday, mounted them in my GT1 Evo, installed the red spring, started the calibration process and when i got to the brake pedal i could barely press it. The back rest of my flimsy adjustable chair and my lombar zone were screaming in pain. Installed the blue spring back and set the max brake pressure at 35% to actually reach 100% braking in ACC with braking the seat and my back. Ironically i can easily push 120kg at the gym.
I think i need to rework my sitting position in the rig.
You should do a pedal's buyer guide! I "need" to update my CSL elite..
Question: Do you run a heel stop on your main rig/setup daily? Or never?
I just received mine last night. They are definitely designed to compete with the HE Ultimates, the quality is super top notch
How do like them now you've had a good few months with them
@@trevz1048 I still love them. I don't even think about them really, because they just work so well
is the mounting the same as ultimates or do you need to drill?
@@-racingfan2014 I wouldn't know, don't own Ultimates. They mount easily to an 80/20. From pictures online, they look similar enough, but I'm sure there's dimensions you can look up if you really need to find out.
My set arrives next yesterday 💪💪💪
Great review. Got this few days ago. Had to install a 40cm wood log in my rig to serve as heel support.
I got a question. When you configure your brake pedal, do you push the maximum force until your bum lift the chair a bit? Doing that and Im on 30ish % on blue spring. If I don’t do that I’m on 23ish %
Hi Dan, as i understand to decrease pedal travel you must make longer lenght with this middle screw, tier-rod? Or you shouod screw in to make smaller diameter to make pedal travel less? By your diagram i see longer tier rod means shorter travel, but from which point you measure it? Or it is bottom one with spring i should adjust with washers gor brake travel-lenght? Thanks!
I don't understand how easy you can squeeze that red spring, when i change it the brake pedal was too stiff for me. I have same pedal travel with softer spring. Maybe i'm doing something wrong. Nice overviev btw.
Maybe you can help me. Should I buy the atrax 2 oder the VRS? What’s your recommendation?
Those look sweet! When will we see a sim room tour?
What is the withe rod with the two black spacers good for? First I thought they are bump stops but they don't touch the orange stopper rod. It's on all three pedals. No clue what its good for
All sim racers are mechanical engineers. That being said, ironically my dad has specifically been a spring engineer for 30 years, so I asked him instead.
I ordered my set with the Clutch because I run NASCAR Modified and Truck Series.....one needs a clutch to start from any dead stop or shifting to reverse and down shifting going into the pits or in any type of spin cycle to not kill the motor....... other than that i just take up-shifts above the redline!
Has anyone toyed with the idea of adding a foot rest to the right side of the throttle pedal?
Great review! Well done! As you have many different pedalsets at your disposal, would it make sense to have e VRS brake pedal and a HE Ult+ accelerator pedal (for example) at the same time? Mix and match :)
Well I prefer the VRS throttle - but of course you could mix and match 😅
Still waiting for the follow up videos on which pedals have you the best feeling.
Kommt auch noch ein deutsches Video über die Pedale?
PS: Die Pedale sind mega 🤩
ist die aussage noch aktuell ? (besten pedale zur zeit)
I own a Méca cup1 and a p1000i RS.. not satisfied 100%. The swap with this is ok ?
Is the dampers kit worth it?
When is that Simtrecs Pedal video coming out?
Any promotional code for simlab please????? I want to order
Just got mine. Great pedals for the price. Worth the extra $200 over V3s IMO. Gained second’s in first hour of use.
Have you used the V3s? I just ordered some since I don’t really have a rig to mount the vrs’s to. I’m curious if it’s going to be an improvement over the t3pa pedals I have.
@@ApeRiderr The V3 are really good pedals and are a improvement if you use t3pa before, BUT => you have to install the Break Performance or the Damper kit to become the best out of the pedals(sry 4 my bad engl)!
@@tagheuer1226 I understood you just fine thx. I got the performance kit and wow is it an upgrade.
@Dan Suzuki, what was your prefer settibg for the red brake spring? Tie rod length, LC ?
I was pretty much on the default settings tbh
Is it possible to use very short brake pedal throw, while using very high force and not making the spring collapse fully into a hard stop?
@@____________________ok yup, i guess these are not for me, as i like kicking elastomer brick ;)
Hi Dan, as upgrade from the Sprints, would you recommend these or the Racewerk S1s?
You can’t go wrong with either tbh! Performance of both is excellent - racewerk now gives you some nice customization though
I am thinking about which pedals to get and am torn between the VRS, the Simtrec, but also the NuoSimulation (by a german simracing fan and engnieer who wasn't perfectly happy with the Heusinkveld and thus developed his own ones - you may want to check them out). Seems like there isn't much that can be done wrong with either of those, tho.
the simtrecs just look on another level with their beautifully cnc'd parts. also personally don't like the idea of using a load cell as a tps
Simtrecs owner here and absolutely rate them highly. I had HE Ultimate and Sprints before this and now I have much better brake control with the Simtrecs. Plus the bonus is they look absolutely top notch being fully Cnc machined so I feel your getting your money’s worth rather than cheap laser cut steel bolted together
Have you got the dampers to test also Dan? If so, how did that change the feel of the brake pedal?
No I don’t have those
Hi mate, Im interested how you made the pedal travel more. can you give me the details how you made it?
Same I would really like to know since my only complain about the VRS is the lack of travel with the red Spring. I'm running 24mm preload and 38mm rod.
Really appreciate your videos ! Do you know when your “full” review will come out ?
And I have to say, because of you, or thanks to, depends how you see it ;) I will get myself some new pedals
Thanks :) Full review of what exactly do you mean?
@@DanSuzuki sorry, wrote in the wrong video… 🙈 I meant the simgrade vx-pro
Ahhh - I dont know, probably end of the year or so - currently happy with the simucube pedals so these stay on the rig :D
Servus Dan. Thanks for the review! You have perfect timing. I did a reservation on 2021-06-03 and the next in queue is 2021-06-03 (edit: wtf now it is 2021-04-01???). I'm so close to replace the Fanatec V3 with the VRS ;) Your content and video quality is as always fantastic! Too bad that you don't have the dampers but I will order the complete pedale package. Danke & liebe Grüße
I have had these pedals for a while now and I cant really fault them. The only issue I had was finding a way to mount them to a wheel stand was not really built for these kinds on pedals. It would be good if they brought out some baseplate like Heusinkveld so I can maybe mount them better.
I'm just going to use 3/4" plywood I already have...and paint it black. I do have a router to round the edges which helps.
You bridge constructor! kappa
Thanks for the review, Dan
Hey Dan, just looking for a opinion. I was prepared to buy the Next Level Elite rig Until I saw Barry's review on the Rseat P1 yesterday. Any thoughts ?
Hi Sean,
I picked up a p1 after watching Barrys video. Had it for 1 month. Very happy with it.
Pros: looks great, very sturdy and well made, simple setup. Good adjustability. Good range of well made accessories. Sparco sest.
Cons: no customization beyond accessories. Accessories expensive.
I bought the keyboard tray, the simucube mount and the buttkicker mount. $400.
All great. Just not cheap. Rseat is like the apple ecosystem great products, expensive, limited customization.
I would skip the triple monitor stand though. I bought this but I think that an 80/20 stand would give better value, customization and range of setup options.
@@markitrix Thnx man..seriously. I've been trying to figure out what I should get after saving for awhile. And it was the Next level Elite or the Rseat P1.
Sorry I know neither :-/ will do a review of the P1X and TR160 soon though
Hi Dan! ich könnte relativ günstig an Asetek Invictas kommen, sodass die VRS und die Invicta mich im Endeffekt gleichviel kosten würden. Welche von beiden würdest du eher empfehlen?
wenn du die bremse mit wenig travel magst dann invicta, bei eher mittel bis viel travel die VRS - ich persönlich fahre VRS :)
@@DanSuzuki super, danke! :)
When did you screencap the price of the Sprints? Right now they're €577.69 for me. Which makes the 3 pedal set cheaper than the 2 pedal set VRS and about $300 cheaper for all 3.
You have the price without VAT - I compared the prices with VAT
@@DanSuzuki ok, I wasn't sure where you were located. Thanks for the reply
Hallo
Bin auf der Suche nach neuen Pedalen und bin am überlegen ob ich mlr die VRS holen soll, würdest du diese empfehlen?
Liebe Grüße
Ja absolut :)
@@DanSuzuki super danke
Did you use a Maximum Limit deadzone in ACC
I think I use 20-25% dead zone on the upper limit on the brake to have 100% on ACC feel similar to 75-80% on iRacing. That way the maximum brake pressure needed for best braking is comparable
how do they compare vs HE ultimate
Not a big fan of the Ultimates, I much prefer the VRS
Guys, I reserved my pedals on the 8th of December. Now the queue says the next reservation turn is for those from beginning of June and it's been almost two months since my reservation.
At this rate am I going to even get them by the end of the year ?
I won't be waiting this long, I might be dead by the time I get them.
What should I do ? What would you do ?
Thanks !
Buy Asetek instead - I have also been in the queue for 3 months but I'm not gonna wait that long for pedal upgrades.
@@lukasweiss4506 what's your reservation date ? Never heard of Aseteks
Oh you definitely want to check out asetek!!!
@@DanSuzuki I've watched all of your reviews and I wanted to have VRS ! Am I supposed now to change my thinking ? :-)
@@5950ziel Asetek Review is coming February 14th ... can't say much before because of the review embargo!
RE320. Nice choice.
Hypothetically speaking if I had 20k for pedals, which pedals are the best?
I think "the best" can be really subjective at the high end side of things.
If money doesn't matter I'd say the recently unveiled D-Box + Simtag Hydraulic Pedals, even though I haven't tried them. Price is supposed to be 6k-ish.
Could someone please recommend a baseplate for this?
From Meca. I have and is perfect
Try to do venym pedals, they are new and not expansive
These or simagic p1000, what's your opinion?
thx
Simagic p1000 are nice but cant be inverted if you like that mounting way
Hi Dan, do you still own these pedals? And do you still prefer them over other pedals like you said in the review? I really want to buy them I play mostly on ACC, Automobilista and rFactor2. The only concern I have is about the durability of the springs. Or better if with long term use they can have some noise or something like that. And also the software had some updates since this video?
Yes, still use those and still love them. I've had no noise developed in mine - I think there actually were some software updates, but nothing really groundbreaking new tbh. The springs are definitely more reliable than Elastomers from my experience so far!
@@DanSuzuki Thank you so much for the answer. Me too I don't like too much the elastomer feel, it is for that I want to buy VRS. And after what you said I think I will go with them.
@@andreaiachini7517 I’m sure you’ll have a lot of fun with the pedals :)
I like my Heusinkveld Sim Pedals Ultimate - 3 Pedal Set, thanks nice info
Bought 1 except the clutch. Coz I watched this vid and will of boosted media
Haben Dir die VRS oder die Asatek Invicta besser gefallen?
VRS
Danke 😊
Dan, are you still planning to put up a simtrec review? Would be interested in your thoughts between the VRS pedals and the Simtrecs. VRS with dampers is about the same cost as the Simtrecs, and is a "classic" comparison between elastomers v. spring on the brake side.
you can't go wrong with the simtrecs, the script is done, review will come. great build quality, more "classic" elastomer feel - stuff that I disliked were the cable for the clutch, that is a bit bad - but review should be coming in the next weeks when I hopefully find some time for it
@@DanSuzuki thanks for the heads up looking forward to it. Hopefully it covers the use without the additional pedal plate simtrec also sells. Having a GT1-Evo my current setup with my Sprints, the pedals are directly bolted to the pedal plate. The simtrecs seem taller in this case, with non-adjustable throttle pedal, and wonder if they can be used as effectively without the optional pedal plate as with it.
@@DanSuzuki waiting for the review! :)
I know exactly what you mean by pushing a brick wall with the elastomers.
I think elastomers are a terrible idea when it comes to pedals.
You still haven’t reviewed simtrecs
did what felt appropriate and not what was asked, yeha... that's a slogan I want on t-shirts, stickers, pins
DadSu approved
They sound like a good option... but fail on the "pedals you can buy" aspect. The waiting list is long, so after waiting for a bit i just went with the HE sprints, they're fantastic and great quality. (edit: i see what you did there haha)
Not too long of a wait, though. 3 months is how long 2 of my buddies who've received theirs had to wait after signing up for the queue. I got mine in about 2 months, because of being a priority customer from purchasing the VRS wheel base.
@@2MuckinFuch 3 months qualifies as a long wait in my book for this sort of product
@@terjelindtveit8072 The comparable Ultimate+ pedals are avail right now. Low cost, fast turn around, high quality... you can only pick 2
Ask the Fanatec crowd about wait times on the CSL DD wait list. ;)
@@robcampbell6099 Yes, and I'm not waiting another 3 months for the pedals ;)
*smiling, looking at bank account, still smiling but sweating now*
Dan where is the video you promised on Simtrecs pedals here ua-cam.com/video/H5EsV2EgPek/v-deo.html
The best pedals you can't buy? They are always out of stock :D
Good point 😂
Dude you look just like christoph waltz
I am! Thought movies are boring so I decided to switch to making Simracing gear reviews on UA-cam!
They all say the same phrase about their own opinion :D
It’s actually mandatory to say this in a video when you receive items for review 😅
And now, which pedals do you use??🤓 ultimates +! But VRS pedals are better! I dont believe this guy
Too bad you can’t buy them
Arbeitet dein Vater bei scherdel?
Nein 😅
@@DanSuzuki hab gefragt, weil Maschinenbau Ingenieur und kennt sich mit technischen Federn aus. Wäre lustig wenn er zufällig ein Arbeitskollege von mir wäre 😅
@DanSuzuki which do you perfer between the Invicta and the VRS? When price difference is not a consideration Hard question I know and might depend on the day. But, still curious, or if anybody else has an informed opinion, please chime in :D
definitely the VRS :)