Toyota 4Runner Trailhunter vs. Land Cruiser: Here's What Makes One BETTER Than the Other!

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  • Опубліковано 25 жов 2024
  • ( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! After the new 2025 Toyota 4Runner's initial debut, Kase has a chance to look at the Trailhunter model side-by-side with the Land Cruiser. Here's where they're alike, and perhaps more importantly, where they aren't!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 370

  • @Christian-Berger
    @Christian-Berger 2 місяці тому +185

    60k for a 4runner with a lift and skids is insane
    Im convinced the loan culture in the US has completely eliminated any incentive for manufacturers to keep prices low.
    Nobody even considers the actual price anymore, its all about the monthly payment.

    • @ThirdBrainLives
      @ThirdBrainLives 2 місяці тому +7

      It’s not Toyota’s fault. It’s called inflation and CAFE.

    • @jamiegrace9662
      @jamiegrace9662 2 місяці тому +10

      Some of us still pay cash and dealers hate that

    • @DaleWilly
      @DaleWilly 2 місяці тому +4

      umm it is worth EVERY penny and then some

    • @CJ-rk5eg
      @CJ-rk5eg 2 місяці тому +7

      You’re correct about loan culture. Not enough systemic downward pressure on prices across the industry. PLUS increasing safety requirements and emissions / fuel economy requirements add to the costs. So many factors.

    • @tomkillsall
      @tomkillsall 2 місяці тому

      @@DaleWilly​​⁠Toyota is your family business or something?

  • @brettk173
    @brettk173 2 місяці тому +65

    I may be in the minority but I’m a bigger fan of the Land Cruiser’s interior. I think the 4Runner’s is a tad overstyled and won’t age as well. Still, very cool green seats, love those.

    • @markclaypole1573
      @markclaypole1573 2 місяці тому +16

      Completely agree. The 4R interior looks like it’s geared towards a high school aged male. Same with the Tacoma.

    • @Reginald_Harrison
      @Reginald_Harrison 2 місяці тому +11

      I agree, the LC interior is nicer. Simple always ages better.

    • @johnwebb2232
      @johnwebb2232 2 місяці тому +3

      I would agree with you, but I'm also going to add to that. As a 5th gen owner, I think the new 4runner has lost its identity. It looks too much like the Tacoma and also an older style dodge Durango. I love my 2016 4runner trail with kdss, and I think if I was going to trade her in ,it would be for the land cruiser.

    • @RamCruiserOverland
      @RamCruiserOverland 2 місяці тому +3

      Agreed. The Land Cruiser is more understated and handsome inside and out IMO. But I like that they give us options

    • @americapride
      @americapride 2 місяці тому +2

      Agreed. More elegant

  • @comradecaptain5710
    @comradecaptain5710 2 місяці тому +21

    My wife really wants a new 4runner. Her 5th gen 4runner has 240,000 miles on it. However, given the state of Toyota's current reliability issues and pricing (WTAF is going on there?!), we've decided to keep the old 4runner and wait and see if any issues pop-up with the new 6th gen 'Runners.

    • @theinternets7516
      @theinternets7516 2 місяці тому +4

      If it's been well maintained it's got at least another 100,000 miles left in it. Just drive it till it dies. You'll be lucky to get 6k for it if you trade it in on a new one.

    • @alromero5685
      @alromero5685 Місяць тому +1

      Smart. Give it 2 years at least so Toyota can iron out the kinks.

    • @dorrito
      @dorrito 23 дні тому +1

      Heres my q: if something like the tundra has issue, and 2 years after the fact toyota will give you a 100% brand new engine.... i feel like having that issue is a bonus? Brand new engine with 0 miles on it? I dunno!

    • @comradecaptain5710
      @comradecaptain5710 23 дні тому

      @@dorrito I get the appeal of getting a new motor. But think about the down time it will take to replace said motor. I'm buying a truck because I need the truck. I'm not buying a new truck with the possibility of a new engine.

    • @dorrito
      @dorrito 23 дні тому

      @comradecaptain5710 yes, its only ok if they get you a = rental fast. Which im not sure they would do with a real work truck, but i dont know. But at least they seem willing to lose money and keep their customers happy. Vs some other companies.

  • @waynewallace2061
    @waynewallace2061 2 місяці тому +17

    I've come to really appreciate the simplicity and reliability of the older gen Toyotas (and price). Nosebleed prices, even though I can afford them are just a non starter.

  • @JorgeMartinez-iq2tc
    @JorgeMartinez-iq2tc 2 місяці тому +38

    It makes no sense to put the same 4Runner engine in the Land Cruiser, which is probably more expensive. The Land Cruiser needed a bigger engine too justify it.

    • @Reginald_Harrison
      @Reginald_Harrison 2 місяці тому +11

      They have created a weird situation for themselves. A comparably equipped Land Cruiser and GX550 cost the same but the GX has a Twin Turbo V6.
      A comparable 4Runner should cost around $10k less than both.

    • @Anomize23
      @Anomize23 2 місяці тому +4

      @@Reginald_HarrisonThey’re hoping that by relying on the nameplate its gonna sell itself. Sadly fools and their money are buying a 70k 4cyl SUV. Wait until you feel the trunk of that Land Cruiser. ITS A 70k CARD BOARD BOX. Bought the 5th gen 4runner again because that cardboard box ain’t worth 70k let alone a 4cyl. 😂

    • @DanielRedgrave
      @DanielRedgrave Місяць тому

      makes sense because thats a landcruiser prado, previous iterarions also shared plattform or power train.

  • @Wicked_Runs
    @Wicked_Runs 2 місяці тому +86

    Toyota's profit margins must be HUGE. That $70,000+ Land Cruiser has the interior of a $35,000 vehicle.

    • @tdub25
      @tdub25 2 місяці тому +12

      They are built in Japan on a solid steel frame with very robust hybrid powertrain…. Not Mexico…. Labor costs are 100x…. The cost of a vehicle has very little to do with how fancy an interior is….

    • @TheSkinnyMechanic
      @TheSkinnyMechanic 2 місяці тому +2

      @@tdub25yes it does 🤦‍♂️

    • @yahstino
      @yahstino 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@TheSkinnyMechanicno, it does not

    • @supersoup5509
      @supersoup5509 2 місяці тому +1

      I got one and the inside is way better than my 4runner. Both great cars but the new l C really good so far.

    • @Wicked_Runs
      @Wicked_Runs 2 місяці тому

      @@supersoup5509 Congrats on the new ride

  • @johnb-ke9xi
    @johnb-ke9xi 2 місяці тому +33

    crazy we're cross shopping $70k SUV's though when they should be closer to $50k... pricing has become insane. I do appreciate this video! THANKS 🙂

  • @Art_of_Ramon
    @Art_of_Ramon 2 місяці тому +20

    Priced right for influencers.

  • @chebsas1
    @chebsas1 2 місяці тому +26

    I just got a new 2024 4Runner TRD Off Road premium for a little be less than $46.000, and this is the most I ever pay for a car. I got it because I know this car will run forever, even though is very retro , It will hold the value, it fits my lifestyle and will do everything I need it to do. I didn't want to wait for the new 4Runners that will be more expensive and after the Tundras and Tacomas problems who really wants a $60.000 dollar car that may be a headache.

    • @CJ-rk5eg
      @CJ-rk5eg 2 місяці тому +4

      @@chebsas1 sounds like you made the right decision for YOUR needs.

    • @davehtown
      @davehtown 2 місяці тому +5

      @@CJ-rk5egHe’s smart. All the new Toyotas are pieces of junk.

    • @oni-one574
      @oni-one574 2 місяці тому +4

      2024's will be the last years of reliability that we can track. The 2025's are unknown currently how it will run for 10 years+. Judging by the current Tacoma's and their design, we need to wait for the redesign again in hopes they move the bump stops.

    • @michaelhalstead64
      @michaelhalstead64 2 місяці тому

      Just curious what was your previous vehicle? I tried to buy a ‘23 TRD 4Runner and couldn’t do it. Loved the idea and everything about it. But have had super new, modern vehicles… it was like driving a 20 year old car. I guess I just like modern transmissions and tech more than I thought.

    • @chebsas1
      @chebsas1 2 місяці тому

      @michaelhalstead64 I had in this order an FJ Cruiser, Crosstrek, and a Forester. Definitely, the technology in the Forester that was a 2019 was far way superior than the 2024 4RUNNER.

  • @stig120212
    @stig120212 2 місяці тому +12

    I cannot even fathom the markups on these!!

  • @georgeday8716
    @georgeday8716 2 місяці тому +14

    I like the full time 4WD on the Landcruisers. I know some trim levels of the 4Runner will offer it, but not the Trail Hunter nor TRD Pro. I have a deposit on the TRD Pro. I wish I could get that option on that trim level. I live in a snowy region in Canada and some days have to drive on-road through patchy ice and snow.

    • @northerntoyota7584
      @northerntoyota7584 2 місяці тому +1

      Any indication on price? 90k I predict

    • @bd103dall
      @bd103dall 2 місяці тому

      Totally agree, full time 4wd would be a great option.

    • @Reginald_Harrison
      @Reginald_Harrison 2 місяці тому +2

      Can’t you just leave the 4Runner in 4H? Am I missing something?

    • @bd103dall
      @bd103dall 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Reginald_Harrison not on pavement.

    • @northerntoyota7584
      @northerntoyota7584 2 місяці тому

      @@Reginald_Harrison no, part time 4wd transfer cases can’t operate on pavement when turning. It’ll bind the system and it puts a lot of stress on the components

  • @paulbradshaw9046
    @paulbradshaw9046 19 днів тому +1

    I almost waited for the 4Runner but got the LC first edition. Much more mature looking vehicle. Threw on some BFG K03 in 275/70 R18. Looks amazing. Stock tires make it look bad.

  • @blakelyfantastic
    @blakelyfantastic 2 місяці тому +19

    First real non bot comment. New 4Runner looks great and beefy. Really close in size to the Land Cruiser we get in the US.

    • @freedomisntfree_44
      @freedomisntfree_44 2 місяці тому

      Report them

    • @joeblack1052
      @joeblack1052 2 місяці тому +1

      Why wouldn’t it
      It’s the same bloody thing😅

    • @blakelyfantastic
      @blakelyfantastic 2 місяці тому

      @@joeblack1052 lol just different metal creases

    • @joeblack1052
      @joeblack1052 2 місяці тому

      @@blakelyfantastic don’t tell them😅

  • @husshardan3511
    @husshardan3511 2 місяці тому +14

    Check the suspension bump stops on the 4Runner vs the LC. The new Tacoma has been having issues where the shocks have been breaking the top shock mounts because of that. The 4Runner shares the same poor/defective design as the new Tacoma. The new LandCruiser however has proper frame mounted bump stops.

    • @sixspeedcooper
      @sixspeedcooper 2 місяці тому

      Came here to say the same thing. I think time will be the thing to show why the LC being built for the global market vs the 4r and taco being for the us market makes the LC the better buy.

    • @Anganggeeshi
      @Anganggeeshi 2 місяці тому

      I want to see the old man emu bump stops

    • @sixspeedcooper
      @sixspeedcooper 2 місяці тому

      @@Anganggeeshi take a look at the two piece, cast top hats. Failure point baked right into the design and material choice

    • @SimonGonzalOS
      @SimonGonzalOS 2 місяці тому

      @@husshardan3511 is it something you can go to aftermarket to alleviate? This is sad coming from Toyota, surprised they suck like this now

    • @husshardan3511
      @husshardan3511 2 місяці тому +2

      @@SimonGonzalOS I’m sure there will be something in the aftermarket but this reflects on Toyota and how they view their customers as suckers. With this latest gen Tacomas and 4Runners they jacked the prices and cheapened out on the build. We also know they made the frame weaker - or in their speak applied strength to where it was needed. We know the front differential cannot handle the engine torque which is why TFL’s broke and Toyota’s answer was a software detune so less torque goes to the front. Now we know the suspension does not have proper bump stops.
      And this is the stuff we just know at the moment. You think those are the only places they cut corners?

  • @JAP917
    @JAP917 2 місяці тому +4

    I like the exterior of the 4runner, and the interior of the Land Cruiser. I also really would want the Land Cruiser's lockable center Torsen, so that would push me into the Limited or Platinum trims of the 4runner if I were to go that model. At the same time, if you don't care about the MPGs as much, just spend the $70K on the Lexus GX Overtrail and get the twin turbo V6.

  • @Toe_Knee_69
    @Toe_Knee_69 2 місяці тому +44

    Still think 70k for a 4 cylinder turbo with a tiny battery pack is insane.

    • @DaleWilly
      @DaleWilly 2 місяці тому +4

      umm it is worth EVERY DIME

    • @Anomize23
      @Anomize23 2 місяці тому

      @@DaleWillyFound the sucker

    • @tomkillsall
      @tomkillsall 2 місяці тому

      @@DaleWillyToyota is your family business or something?

    • @Anomize23
      @Anomize23 2 місяці тому +3

      It is insane and it’s nothing to flex about. 😂

    • @davehtown
      @davehtown 2 місяці тому +2

      @@DaleWillyLmao yeah ask the Tundra guys.

  • @terratrek805
    @terratrek805 Місяць тому +1

    Just got out of a gladiator into a 1958 LC. Yes, the LC has proper bump stops. Im tall, and yes the more upright glass and tallness of LC is way better than jeeps. These LC's are built in Japan and not im mexico like the tacos. I went for the cheaper 1958 edition and will build it how I like it without the price tag of the LC LC and 1st edition. The new hybrid max motor is crazy fast and full of fun torque. Pleasant surprise.

  • @JorgeMartinez-iq2tc
    @JorgeMartinez-iq2tc 2 місяці тому +40

    $76,000 for a 2.4 turbo engine it's crazy

    • @firefly9838
      @firefly9838 Місяць тому

      Yeah, I'm really surprised they put the same engine in both the land cruiser and the 4runner

  • @thomaslam6821
    @thomaslam6821 2 місяці тому +3

    I would choose the 4Runner also from the specs and the look! Good video! 👍

  • @jlucguerrier
    @jlucguerrier 2 місяці тому +5

    I just realized that as a 6'4" guy, the 4Runner interior is too small. I feel like I'm pouring out of the drivers seat. I love my 5th Gen so much but I'm going LC250 or GX550 when the hybrid comes out. I love the T4R community, so this is gonna be a hard one in 3 years.
    Great video BTW!

    • @GBcommander
      @GBcommander 2 місяці тому +1

      Dang, that sucks to hear. I'm a little shorter than you at 6'2 and was looking at getting a 2024 4Runner. That was my issue with my Tacoma is the seats had no leg support and felt like you were somehow sitting on the floor.

    • @jlucguerrier
      @jlucguerrier 2 місяці тому +1

      @@GBcommander the on the floor feeling isn't the problem. The 4Runner seats are a lot better than the Taco. I have seat jackers also but the seating position is fine. It's the interior space that is too tight. I came from a V8 Durango years ago and it was like I was driving my living room. I liked that. It was more like a Sequoia in terms of interior space.

    • @GBcommander
      @GBcommander 2 місяці тому +2

      @@jlucguerrier Ah, gotcha. I went from an F150 to a Tacoma so I can relate lol. Tacoma was so cramped, it's crazy. Guess I'll have to get another F150 haha.

    • @jlucguerrier
      @jlucguerrier 2 місяці тому +1

      @@GBcommander Don't do that to yourself. Lol... The LC250 and GX550 have much bigger interiors and you'll still get Toyota reliability, hopefully. I will never go back to a vehicle not made at Tahara.

    • @GBcommander
      @GBcommander 2 місяці тому +1

      @@jlucguerrier I've actually been looking at the GX460. Seems like a nicer version of the 4Runner, plus that V8. They also seem to be around the same price (at least in my location), which is definitely tempting. Not sure about space though. I'll need to test drive it.

  • @1119-w3u
    @1119-w3u 19 днів тому +1

    The Landcruiser is more cleaner though and I like how more boxy the profile is on the A pillar.

  • @michaelmahaffey3201
    @michaelmahaffey3201 2 місяці тому +3

    I have a 2023 Limited 5th gen Runner. I do like the trailhunter and would probably go that route if/when I decide to let go of this tank that is know as the 5th gen. Perhaps I’ll keep it and buy the trailhunter.

  • @DirtE30
    @DirtE30 2 місяці тому +6

    Has anyone gotten Toyota engineering to give us any answers as to why they removed external bump stops from their most “offroad” oriented vehicles?!

  • @trey7575
    @trey7575 2 місяці тому +2

    I like the angle of the glass on the Land Cruiser. I’m a tall dude and I don’t like looking though wind shields that are really angled into the cab

  • @andrewmaina5449
    @andrewmaina5449 2 місяці тому +2

    Watching from KENYA 🇰🇪 EAST AFRICA

  • @asclepj
    @asclepj 2 місяці тому +4

    a lot of people are complaining about the costs of cars these days. Well, guess what? You can not have everything in life. Kids these days do not learn that anymore.

    • @firefly9838
      @firefly9838 Місяць тому

      Seems like a great way to just get the general population to "just deal" with corporate greed...

  • @KNRS927
    @KNRS927 2 місяці тому +7

    I have to admit, both the new 4Runner and Land Cruiser look absolutely beautiful. Toyota really nailed it on these redesigns in the looks. However, I’d wait a few years to see how these new engines hold up since they’re quite a move from the old V8s.

    • @RevViewHQ
      @RevViewHQ 2 місяці тому +1

      Agreed, they have a beautiful design with ALOT of road presence.

  • @edwardpeters4700
    @edwardpeters4700 Місяць тому +1

    I would take the LC250 over a 4Runner every day of the week and twice on Sunday. The 4Runner is over styled, the LC250 runs a full-time case, and the world market model makes more sense for anyone who crosses international borders.

  • @Skidaddl
    @Skidaddl 2 місяці тому +2

    Depends on your age. I'm seeing most younger guys prefer 4Runner, older guys Land Cruiser. I'm an older guy.

  • @Fiftyfiv3hundr3d
    @Fiftyfiv3hundr3d 2 місяці тому +2

    Fuel door release on the new 4Runner! Seems like a weird thing to be stoked about but that is one of my gripes with my 2014 Trail. Why they wouldn’t have secured the fuel filler is beyond me.

  • @steve0ne11
    @steve0ne11 17 днів тому

    Seems like the 4Runner is more rugged and youthful design, while the LC is more understated and mature. Smart move to offer two options for different tastes.

  • @wp31144
    @wp31144 2 місяці тому +3

    I’ve tried to really like the 6th gen, but it feels too boy racer for my eyes. Similar to prior gen civic…gives off chaotic vibes

  • @99-Zulu
    @99-Zulu 2 місяці тому +5

    Damn so even Toyota came out with competitors for the Bronco before any of the other manufactures.

    • @thewjsand
      @thewjsand 2 місяці тому

      In person they look nothing alike.

    • @user-ue5rr1iw7k
      @user-ue5rr1iw7k 2 місяці тому +3

      The bronco wishes it was competition for the 4runner

  • @mitchstein288
    @mitchstein288 2 місяці тому +2

    The Land Cruiser seems way bigger than the 4Runner. I like the way the 4Runner looks over the Land Cruiser, but only slightly, and that is where the points for the 4Runner stop. Everything else goes in the Land Cruiser's favor for me. Size of vehicle. Interior space. Auto 4X4 (huge miss on a Trail Hunter, Toyota!!). It seems like in an attempt to be a little more "macho", Toyota made the 4Runner interior a little too blocky and chunky, which takes up room. Not a fan of that. I just really wish you could get a Land Cruiser starting in the mid $40's, as even the most inexpensive options are close to $60K.

  • @1FiftyOverland
    @1FiftyOverland 2 місяці тому +185

    Overpriced. The whole lot.

    • @ThirdBrainLives
      @ThirdBrainLives 2 місяці тому +16

      You should get a better job.

    • @stevenPounder-p4b
      @stevenPounder-p4b 2 місяці тому +2

      What part of cheap do you see on any of them?

    • @1FiftyOverland
      @1FiftyOverland 2 місяці тому

      @user-cq6fk5go3s what? bot.

    • @omardevonlittle3817
      @omardevonlittle3817 2 місяці тому

      ​@@ThirdBrainLiveswage slave said what?

    • @joeblack1052
      @joeblack1052 2 місяці тому +2

      @@stevenPounder-p4bthe rear wiper
      The cover on the tow bar receptacle
      That’s a start

  • @R56Cooper
    @R56Cooper 2 місяці тому

    Looking forward to TFL's video on the base trim 2025 4Runner SR5--🎉

  • @carlosnunez8229
    @carlosnunez8229 Місяць тому

    The LC Prado and the 4runner have always been similar, being the turbo diesel option in the LC Prado the main differentiator. Now, having both competing with each other with the same engine options in the US is kind of "crazy"...

  • @brianphillips8228
    @brianphillips8228 2 місяці тому +2

    Most definitely the Land Cruiser for the payload (what's been stated so far). It's not even close.

  • @КотВаська-д1к
    @КотВаська-д1к 2 місяці тому

    4Runner is amazing ! Especially Trd Pro!😍😍😍

  • @docwyte
    @docwyte 6 днів тому

    $10k increase in pricing compared to the last Gen TRD Pro 4Runner is insane. I also don't like the roof basket, I'd much rather have roof rails so I can add ski racks, whatever I want. Also a bummer that the 4Runner trailhunter doesn't have a front locker too. At this price level I'm not sure why someone would choose these vs the Lexus GX550 Overtrail and get the V6 twin turbo motor

  • @jeffreyfitch1006
    @jeffreyfitch1006 2 місяці тому +7

    Don't know who's paying 65k for a 4runner when that literally gets you a Landcruiser.

  • @shiftymcgee9359
    @shiftymcgee9359 Місяць тому +2

    Beautiful vehicles but I’ll only be enjoying them on UA-cam.

  • @ggtelevision
    @ggtelevision 2 місяці тому

    Owner of a '20 4Runner OR w/KDSS. My issues with the new TH 4R. Compressor location unsuitable and potentially inaccessible when loaded up. Why not a more rearward placement? Load height is just a non starter. "Sliders" attached to the body as opposed to frame mounted. Toyota badging on dash a little much and some small details. Love the looks and the paint color.

  • @DominionAnako-bb7ry
    @DominionAnako-bb7ry 2 місяці тому +2

    Love your car video

  • @jettand11
    @jettand11 2 місяці тому

    Waiting to see the range and cargo for the 4R; I’ll probably be deciding between these two in the next year or two.

  • @benjih6216
    @benjih6216 2 місяці тому +3

    That trail hunter prototype had a lot of dirt underneath. Must be putting it through its paces…..or you’ll get to drive it.

  • @ChristopherAhrens-g2p
    @ChristopherAhrens-g2p 2 місяці тому

    Its not a snorkel on the 4runner though. Its a raised air intake for cleaner air when offroading.

  • @rationalmoderate
    @rationalmoderate 2 місяці тому

    Unfortunately, the Land Cruiser is AWD and requires Premium Fuel. Otherwise, I might be tempted to go that route. I am in the market for the 4runner TRD Pro . Looking forward to pricing and off-road reviews.

  • @bwer2
    @bwer2 2 місяці тому +6

    LC hands down
    Not even close

  • @jamesw5591
    @jamesw5591 2 місяці тому +3

    No bump stops on the 4runner?

    • @husshardan3511
      @husshardan3511 2 місяці тому

      Nope. Just like on the Tacoma resulting in possible suspension failures.

  • @user-iz3gv5vo6b
    @user-iz3gv5vo6b 2 місяці тому

    Hey Kase, please fold down the back seats of the Trailhunter. Is it a flat load floor? Is there 4ft between the wheel wells?

  • @jacanadyful
    @jacanadyful 2 місяці тому

    Land Cruise for me which I have already purchased. Full time 4 wheel drive, better view out front with taller window, no fake hood scoop that makes view over hood not as good and somewhat classic styling.

  • @edwhite4992
    @edwhite4992 2 місяці тому +1

    20 years ago I bought a nice new house with a big outbuilding and a smaller outbuilding plus 10 acres. I can Remember being shocked to spend $82000 for it. Now that’s dirt cheap. Wages have not kept up so whose spending this much? Wish I could! Lol

  • @bloobled8013
    @bloobled8013 Місяць тому

    I really do like them, but those prices with interest rates are a non starter. Guess I’ll keep fighting my teenagers over our YJ and TJ. Had a Tacoma back in 99 fantastic truck.

  • @jbandt
    @jbandt 2 місяці тому

    Based solely on Exterior styling I'm going Land Cruiser with the retro round headlights. It just looks better to me.

  • @barrysurdex5521
    @barrysurdex5521 2 місяці тому

    Are they any smoother going down the road? Or do you need a chiropractor when you get out?

  • @sergiomendoza4250
    @sergiomendoza4250 2 місяці тому

    Pricing is unfortunate on these cars but it’s the free market at work. For everyone of us that mentions the absurd cost, someone is at the dealer in the financing dept looking at a $72k Toyota +5% interest rate saying “where do I sign”.

  • @markderoller7645
    @markderoller7645 2 місяці тому +3

    4Runner looks awesome.

  • @JorgeGarcia-mx7bs
    @JorgeGarcia-mx7bs 2 місяці тому

    That hybrid battery implementation was a big miss. I would have preferred the battery under the second row.

  • @M85Iroc
    @M85Iroc 2 місяці тому +2

    If I had the cash for any of these pricey units. I’d go 4Runner

    • @Anomize23
      @Anomize23 2 місяці тому +1

      5th gen 4runner here. Forget that econo 4cyl. At least i know the 5th gen is proven.

  • @joek1353
    @joek1353 2 місяці тому +1

    Neither one its way overpriced for what it is and reliability will have a huge impact over the years.

  • @stonepa
    @stonepa 2 місяці тому

    Chunky buttons are great but that tiny volume button on the screen is horrible. I have that in my new Tacoma wood hauler and it is the absolute worst thing about the interior. Hopefully an accessory maker will come up with an alternative..

  • @TheMattfranz
    @TheMattfranz Місяць тому

    No snorkel, no compressor, not sure if those rock sliders are frame mounted (they're body mounted on the Tacoma TRD pro, frame mounted on the Trailhunter), same drivetrain. Seems like all the Landcrusier offers is more room for the price tag.

  • @dnunknown1
    @dnunknown1 2 місяці тому

    Find myself holding out on LC until 4Runner is out, which could be sometime. Also heard ICE will be 1st the ~4 months later will be hybrids, so Spring 2025?

  • @mikesterlb
    @mikesterlb 2 місяці тому

    If yall can wait longer after the release to buy so prices can lower we can help each other out

  • @johnmoretto6063
    @johnmoretto6063 2 місяці тому

    The 4Runner should be in low $50’s max and the LC in the high $50’s. However, seeing all the build quality issues with Toyotas lately, I really question how smart it is to consider buying. Seems Toyota has leaned more towards aesthetics and less towards durability.
    Is TFL going to say anything about the recent suspension issues for Toyotas? Seems the engine issue and the transmission and linkage issues have been detailed.

  • @KeithKacanek
    @KeithKacanek 2 місяці тому

    4R Trailhunter better be cheaper since I’ve noticed a lack of the ARB steel bumper that was a major point for the Taco. Any word as to why?

  • @tmwei396
    @tmwei396 2 місяці тому

    A fully optioned out top of the line trim level should not have any blank switches. This drives me crazy. I hope the production version of the 4Runner fixes this but the 1st Edition LC still has a blank right in the middle of the dash staring at you.

  • @abqcrutch
    @abqcrutch 2 місяці тому

    If I was in the market for a new vehicle, I'd go with the 1958 LC. However, I only buy used vehicles.

  • @jtf2399
    @jtf2399 2 місяці тому

    im waiting for the 2nd wave if the new 4runners before considering buying but im still contemplating just getting a 2024 before its too late. I dont love the divot details on the back end near the lights, it almost looks like dents

  • @dustind9242
    @dustind9242 2 місяці тому

    Any video footage of you driving it?

  • @kelvinwebster521
    @kelvinwebster521 2 місяці тому

    It is really too bad when people say these trailhunter versions of the trucks are overpriced when to build your own rig to spec will be several thousands of dollars more plus with the inclusion of many different attributes like e parking brake a proper snorkel thats sealed and painted in stead of just cut and bolted i have a 23 orp and with what i have done my trk is 100k spent with multiple different brands I wouldve saved my money for this if It wasnt the greatest secret in the automotive worlds history year after year of speculation i waited got mine delivered then 1 year later this is what came about i wouldve gladly not modified it then traded it in after 3 years come on people there are several trims available if you think the trailhunters are too expensive and after what i have put my trk thru Toyota trks and thier prices are fine with me

  • @Freynightwalker
    @Freynightwalker Місяць тому

    I like the 4 runner buf likely the platinum to tow a small trailer

  • @derekschinke2512
    @derekschinke2512 2 місяці тому +4

    I mean, the Land Cruiser is significantly more capable with it’s full-time 4wd with a locking center diff

  • @Lionwolf1111
    @Lionwolf1111 2 місяці тому

    Which one is more capable off-road, the 4Runner TRD Pro or the 4Runner Trailhunter? Why?

  • @LRaines
    @LRaines 2 місяці тому

    Take a baking russet potato, stick another smaller red potato on it, then finally stick a fingerling potato on that = New 4 Runner

  • @Chris-bl5fs
    @Chris-bl5fs Місяць тому

    Convince me it will live 15 years reliably. Then maybe I’ll pay the price. It’s not as easy a sell as the current 5th gen in that way (at least not yet).

  • @christianglaude6659
    @christianglaude6659 2 місяці тому

    Good job Toyota with the interior layout 🙂

  • @healingvizion
    @healingvizion 2 місяці тому

    All last year I was excited for both of these, and now, they feel a little tacky an underwhelming.
    Ended up going w/ a used 4runner for less than half the price.

  • @ryankelly2828
    @ryankelly2828 2 місяці тому

    If it was base trim, plastic cladding basic amenities in a modern vehicle, I’d say both of the Land Cruiser and 4 Runner should be way less than 60k. Mark ups will bring upwards of 70-75k on trims and such. At the end of the day us as consumers don’t want much, and we don’t want copycat Infotainment Systems. I think actual ultra Basw Models should start 40k then trims get upwards of 50k, Toyota could steal that Bronco / Jeep territory. Toyota won’t do that but 40-50 range is a lot better than 60-70-maybe even 75k just sounds so much better. I recently bought a Bronco Sport and a Civic Sport, love the baby Bronco, was not paying 20k in Mark Up for the Big boy. My Honda on the other hand, first car of Hondas line up that was redesigned, now every Honda has the same damn Steering Wheel, Head Unit, and even Air Vents. Toyota please be different, be consumer friendly like the brand always was. It’s always been Honda v Toyota, Ford v Chevy, and so on and so on. Everybody’s doing the same stuff across the board to fit in. These cars are literally the only cars on the market that set themselves out, and Toyota knows. What a sham.

    • @ryankelly2828
      @ryankelly2828 2 місяці тому

      Nice informed video though, love the content keep it up fellas 🎉

  • @LionRunner
    @LionRunner 2 місяці тому +1

    @2:45 ARB please build that high air in take for the 5th gen 4Runner. I don't want to downgrade to 6th gen 4Runner to get the high air intake.

  • @mujtaballa3105
    @mujtaballa3105 2 місяці тому

    How many recalls between the lot??

  • @cinthe3
    @cinthe3 2 місяці тому

    The only issue is robbing people on the drive train. It's not 2002 anymore. Prices for things are more now.

  • @D_F_L_
    @D_F_L_ 2 місяці тому

    Don’t get fooled with the lift kits on the new 4R, they lack a key component that Toyota watered down on the new Tacoma and 4R: NO frame mounted bump stops. They have shock mounted bunpstops with aluminum cast shock top that is straight doodoo for off-roading. This was done to save cost for North America models.
    Go land cruiser because it’s a world market vehicle which they put more time and attention to and they have frame mounted bump stops.
    Sad they did away with frame mounted bunpstops on the new gen.

  • @Queensizemusic
    @Queensizemusic 2 місяці тому +2

    Man, the 4Runner is beautiful.

  • @1FiftyOverland
    @1FiftyOverland 2 місяці тому +8

    When did we start calling it a door card? It's a door panel!

    • @TacoUP
      @TacoUP 2 місяці тому +1

      its always been a Door card, its a regional saying either card or panel can be used

    • @johnnixon2504
      @johnnixon2504 2 місяці тому +1

      It seems like “door card” is the more old school name for that part. The panel used to be a thin rigid “card” that was mostly flat and covered with vinyl or leather

    • @krashnpa
      @krashnpa 2 місяці тому

      Door panel is SAE, door card is metric 😂

  • @xziang
    @xziang 2 місяці тому

    Sliders still look like the mount to the unibody and not the frame. :( Wheels/tires look like they might now be interchangeable between the 4runner and tacoma again.

  • @newamsterdanm
    @newamsterdanm 2 місяці тому

    LET IT ROT !! 0:28

  • @robertrousseaux1059
    @robertrousseaux1059 Місяць тому

    Eventually someone will figure out we want to be able to select engines, roll up windows , AC, 4x4 , lockers …that’s it . A work truck, hunting , pulling trailer, not a luxury vehicle .Why do other country’s get a Land Cruiser with roll up windows?

  • @christianglaude6659
    @christianglaude6659 2 місяці тому +3

    4Runner

  • @greggalindo6714
    @greggalindo6714 2 місяці тому +8

    Toyota ain’t listening to the consumers. Overpriced vehicles with reliability issues that most people don’t really want. SMH

  • @cmreamhomes3274
    @cmreamhomes3274 2 місяці тому

    I think he missed the weight restriction on the back of the LandCruiser.

  • @Mikessteel
    @Mikessteel 2 місяці тому

    The reviewer missed a ton of key differences between these interiors, as well as several folks replying who have never even sat in or touched these two vehicles.
    The cost of these are extremely high, zero argument there, but do you even know the history of the Land Cruiser and Toyota’s engineering philosophy for it?
    There’s a reason why you see land cruisers in every country in the world, used in some of the harshest conditions. They are ridiculously overengineered for durability at the top two plants worldwide, with extremely high quality and durable materials inside and out.
    Second, as far as the interior, the difference is NIGHT AND DAY between the 2025 4Runner and Land Cruiser. I sat in a 2024 Trailhunter Tacoma (front seats/area are 100% identical to the 4Runner in this video even down to the color), and a Land Cruiser First Edition today. The Land Cruiser’s seats are genuine leather and you can feel the quality-you can see it in the video, but the 4Runner is thinner softex. Some of the knobs/buttons on the 4Runner vs the LC are clearly lower quality (4WD shift controls, even look at the quality of the air vents on the LC vs the 4Runner lol). Everything you touch on the First Edition is soft touch, not hard plastic. Small touches like the door panels, window controls, “Toyota” embossed steering wheel, etc were higher quality in the LC first edition. The backseats in the Land Cruiser were extremely well bolstered and thick, genuine leather and were actually very comfortable, especially for back seats. Even the grab handles were soft touch in Land Cruiser vs hard plastic in Tacoma Trailhunter. These are just a few examples I saw while physically sitting in, driving, and actuating all controls, but you can see it in the video as well!
    I’ve owned Toyota and Lexus products my entire life, including current gen 4Runner and latest Tundra, and the new Land Cruiser’s interior quality at the top two trims blow the 4Runner Trail Hunter’s away for quality of materials, real leather, and soft touch everywhere.

    • @ElderStatesman-pi3lc
      @ElderStatesman-pi3lc 2 місяці тому

      I wouldn’t ride on the LC legacy. This is a Prado - not a 70, 200 or 300 series. The rest of the world is literally laughing at US customers on this launch. It is NOT the same robust build you’re talking about. “Soft touch” is correct.

    • @Mikessteel
      @Mikessteel Місяць тому

      @@ElderStatesman-pi3lc cool story bro. Ride in one. Drive it. These are made at the two highest quality plants in the world. Im a lifelong Toyota fan, but take the names out of it, I drove and rode in two of these new LCs. Both didn’t have a rattle, squeak, or poor fitting panel anywhere. Amazing quality leather and interior. Superb build on both and drove amazing. To each their own, but after putting time behind the wheel of multiple new LCs, I don’t need others to tell me what to like or not like 😃👍

    • @ElderStatesman-pi3lc
      @ElderStatesman-pi3lc Місяць тому

      @@MikessteelI’m sure it’s fine - but I wouldn’t look at it as a continuation of the 300 or the 70 series - and neither do the hard core LC fans in Australia or South Africa. It’s a hybrid 4 with 8.5” of clearance and IFS - and I’m sure Toyota will sell a billion of them. But I think the hard core trail jockeys and overlanders will look elsewhere. But it’s a fine daily that will do OK off-road with some mods. TBH, with the dealer markups, I would stick with a 200 with a build-out.

    • @timfreeman7034
      @timfreeman7034 15 днів тому

      ⁠@@ElderStatesman-pi3lcthis is the same LC that is sold as the Prado currently in Europe, Australia, Central America, etc. it’s not a 300 series, but the rest of the world is not “laughing” at US consumers. They are buying the same vehicle. Often as a diesel, but the same vehicle. Mine has nearly 4K miles. It’s not the same build quality as the 5th Gen 4Runner on the exterior. The guts of it are still built very well (watch the car care nut’s video on it). It’s still a hell of a machine. I think it will get better over time as well. And I will not buy the next generation 4Runner until they add frame mounted bump stops. The LC has them. They took them off the 25 4R.

  • @cshader2488
    @cshader2488 2 місяці тому

    Does it have bump stops on the LCA's?

  • @vaimurthy
    @vaimurthy 2 місяці тому +1

    4runner looks rugged and it offers better capability at a cheaper price compared to land cruiser. Selecting Lexus GX. is better option instead of land cruiser

  • @josephbarbato9668
    @josephbarbato9668 2 місяці тому

    Why no 4 auto for the 4Runner? Even my inexpensive 2018 Silverado has 4 auto

  • @Jacobaic
    @Jacobaic 2 місяці тому

    LC rear seats have terrible leg room. TFL is the legroom better in the new 4Runner?

    • @Mikessteel
      @Mikessteel 2 місяці тому

      Uhhh, 6’2” zero issues with rear seat leg room-one of the most comfortable back seats I’ve ever sat in, and this includes my current gen and previous gen tundra.

    • @Jacobaic
      @Jacobaic 2 місяці тому

      @@Mikessteel6’2” myself and couldn’t fit sitting behind myself in LC.

  • @mrt3206
    @mrt3206 2 місяці тому +5

    60k for a 4 runner and over 70k for the Land Cruiser is insane. If they are going to ask for that much the least they could do is make the interior a premium luxury feel.
    I don’t care if it’s being “marketed” as a “off road” vehicle. The roof and doors aren’t removable like a Bronco or Jeep, so the interior being so bleh 🤢 is what ruins both of these vehicles when they are being priced this high for what they are.
    You can get a SUV with 3 rows for under 55k from Ford and GM(Ford Explorer, and GMC Acadia) which both look great on the outside and look amazing on the inside.🤷‍♂️

  • @user-cg7cc7zj3e
    @user-cg7cc7zj3e 2 місяці тому +3

    I'll pass on both. Priced too high and I am sure the reasons they keep delaying the 4runner is because it's got the same transmission problems as the Tacoma.

  • @DPiper
    @DPiper 2 місяці тому

    4runner looks good. But.. rather have the v6 but with a little more power. Or an inline 6 cylinder..