Dino Cazares Talks Obsolete | FEAR FACTORY

  • Опубліковано 31 бер 2023
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  • Jose CFDC
    Jose CFDC 11 місяців тому +166

    Dino Cazares is an absolute legend. He completely changed metal, him and Raymond Herrera. They never got the recognition that they truly deserve!

    • midinerd
      midinerd 2 місяці тому

      Got to see them on their Obsolete tour in like 1998 or something (could be a year off - junior in highschool). I liked the lead singers screaming & the synth stuff too.
      Oh I was introduced to them through CARMAGEDDON actually! Hell yeah body hammer instrumental!!!!!!! that's what started it hahahahahahaha fuckyeah great show, crowdsurfed several times

    • Glen Dagang
      Glen Dagang 2 місяці тому

      He is just so cool damn kinda person...he had divorce and bankcruptcy in the same year...still handle it like a champ 🤘

    • James Clark
      James Clark 2 місяці тому +1

      You forgot a few people.

    • IBM Official
      IBM Official 2 місяці тому

      @dceptcn weird coz he claims that Christian and Raymond were only about the cash!

    • Jess Pookboma135
      Jess Pookboma135 2 місяці тому +4

      Yeah the two "gringos" had NOTHING to do with the sound and success of FF

  • D Raleigh88
    D Raleigh88 11 місяців тому +114

    obsolete is one of the best metal albums of all time i rmember being in 6th grade and i was rockin out to shock and edgecrusher,

    • Matthew Rardin
      Matthew Rardin Місяць тому +1

      Edgecrusher was SO hard dude

    • Count Biscuit
      Count Biscuit 2 місяці тому +1

      Edgecusher holy shit, the groove of that main riff 🤘🤘🤘

    • Dope Scorpio
      Dope Scorpio 2 місяці тому +1

      7th for me. I got it because my dad had that scam where you get a bunch of cds for 10 cents or whatever and he let me pick a couple. I picked it because of the "cars" cover I heard on the radio. Changed my life lol

    • T. Riley Roo
      T. Riley Roo 2 місяці тому +3

      Damn, I'm old! I was a senior in high school when this came out. I remember leaving school and blaring this album in my car. I thought I was cool... now I KNOW I was cool! lol

    • phutureproof
      phutureproof 2 місяці тому +1

      My god! Edgecrusher, what a tune, and that one about a leaf in my eye or whatever, descent, great album, so heavy, shock! What an opening tune 🤘

  • The Ten Cent Story
    The Ten Cent Story 2 місяці тому +12

    I listened to the entire Obsolete album while running my first marathon this year. Thanks, Fear Factory.

  • Nobody #13
    Nobody #13 2 місяці тому +12

    Demanufacture and Obsolete will always have a gold star place in my heart. Zero Signal on the MK soundtrack changed my life

    • Nobody #13
      Nobody #13 24 дні тому

      @DespiseTheSpecies same. Not only am I still a big 90s techno and industrial fan but the exposure of heavier metal like FF and Napalm Death ended up giving me the passion for a career in extreme metal. I can trace it all back to the MK soundtrack and it's probably a pretty rare pathway for most "extreme metal" people. Formed my musical taste as well, to an interesting degree

    • DespiseTheSpecies
      DespiseTheSpecies 2 місяці тому +3

      Mortal Kombat 1995 literally formed my taste in music, Fear Factory, Napalm Death, Stabbing Westward, GZR & of course Buckethead

  • TimberWolvesX X
    TimberWolvesX X 4 місяці тому +13

    massive respect to this band, they were pioneers of the 'sound' many others tried to replicate.

  • A.D.D
    A.D.D 9 місяців тому +61

    @ 0:14 Dino was nice enough to play the whole album for us

  • EvolveDJ
    EvolveDJ 2 місяці тому +5

    Obsolete is one of the albums that helped shape me as a person, changed my perspective on electronic music elements combined with metal music and introduced concept/storylines within albums. I still listen to this album.

  • Draculaboy
    Draculaboy 11 місяців тому +34

    I will never forget when mtv had wrestling at an event and had fear factory performing on the ring side when they released obsolete

    • Trevor Malchano
      Trevor Malchano 2 місяці тому +4

      Yes! Wcw bash at the beach or something like that

  • Ricky H
    Ricky H 2 місяці тому +4

    This band was so huge to me. Basically the complexities and intricacies of the drumming alone!

  • Riian Kt
    Riian Kt 6 місяців тому +12

    Thanks for this. I found FF at the release of Obsolete back in 98 as a kid. Maybe 11-12 years old. My first tattoo was the FF symbol from Soul of a New Machine years. I come back to FF every few years and I’ll tell you…I appreciate them so much more now. Absolutely legendary band and the 90’s era FF is like no other. Ground breaking. Heavy. Badass.

  • DespiseTheSpecies
    DespiseTheSpecies 2 місяці тому +3

    Securitron - Police State 2000 & Resurrection are absolute masterpieces, that's not to say the other tracks aren't but these are my personal favourites from the album, that breakdown synthesiser at the end of 2000 into Descent is *chefs kiss*

  • W H
    W H 2 місяці тому +5

    I remember buying this cd solely on the band name cover art. Happy to say I wasn't disappointed. Great album.

  • Daniel LeClair
    Daniel LeClair 6 місяців тому +22

    Growing up in the country in the 1990s without internet and two TV channels was tough for discovering new music. At the time I was learning guitar and my parents would buy me issues of Guitar World, Guitar One and Metal Hammer and I would be in absolute awe reading interviews with guitar players from Metal bands and Punk bands. They were so brash, confident and badass but I never heard their music and could only imagine how killer it actually was. Up to that point the heaviest music I had ever heard was stuff like White Zombie, Ministry, Rammstein, Metallica, Soundgarden, Megadeth etc. It was stuff I remembered from Beavis and Butthead as a young kid in the early 90s when we had the channel in the city. But in the mid to late 90s we were country and that was all gone. The only tidbits I would get was from people at school or maybe a movie like Ace Ventura Pet Detective or Air Heads would give me a taste.
    One day my mom gave me an ad for Columbia House records. The deal was 12 cds for a penny each. I literally had hundreds of options and was overwhelmed. I blind picked stuff like Silverchair, Rage Against the Machine, The Offspring, Metallica, NOFX, Korn, Limp Bizkit and then two albums that completely blew my 13 year old mine into another dimension.That was Slayers - Diabolous in Musica and Fear Factory - Obsolete. These two albums, at the age of 13 the summer before highschool was like an absolute nuclear bomb going off and the type of cool shit I wanted and needed as a nervous teen just before the big leap into HS. I bought ab Obsolete Tshirt and I turned all my friends onto Fear Factory. Slayer was hit and miss with people but Fear Factory was just absolutely amazing. Futuristic, terminator-like end of the world concept type shit with industrial-machine like efficiency between the drums guitar and bass unlike anything I had ever heard. Burton C Bells absolutely original and unique vocals. Particularly, his soaring yet odd sounding cleans. Almost new waveish sounding, or even robotic sounding. They just made my imagination run wild in a dystopian nightmare trying to survive. I had a fender strat but wanted a 7string Ibanez so bad because of Dino. Never got one. But god damn this album is one of my favourites. There were albums as a young boy and budding musician that had a huge impact on me. This is one of them, in my personal top 10 forsure.

    • Daniel LeClair
      Daniel LeClair 2 місяці тому

      @Mike Stein Hell yeah dude, you rip! \m/. What city are you located in?

    • Mike Stein
      Mike Stein 2 місяці тому +1

      Me and you have a lot in common check out a few of my basement drum covers

    • Daniel LeClair
      Daniel LeClair 5 місяців тому

      @N Hun It was a giant RCA or Zenith TV and all we had was FOX(upstate NY-Buffalo) channel and a shitty channel like PBS or something. The only good thing on FOX in those times was Fear Factor, Seinfeld, Fraser and late at night the Howerd Stern show. Lol.

    • N Hun
      N Hun 5 місяців тому +1

      @Daniel LeClair me too bro I do it for a living 90s country and Southern rock, my two girls are learning too. When you said you grew up in the country and didn’t get to all I can remember was them antennas you had to turn around with that dial. Let’s write a boook 😆

    • Daniel LeClair
      Daniel LeClair 5 місяців тому +2

      @N Hun I still play. My kids are now playing. I have a jam room dedicated to the holy trinity. Guitar bass and drums.

  • Nick
    Nick 2 місяці тому +4

    Obsolete is a masterpiece, it was def their peak, watch the vid with Rhys telling how he created the intro of Shock, pure genius.

  • Francisco Guardado
    Francisco Guardado 10 місяців тому +14

    I love Obsolete I discovered it in 2001 during my spring break in 8th grade, changed my life and opened the door to extreme metal for me.

    • xAquinasx
      xAquinasx 2 місяці тому +1

      Same for me with Demanufacture. I remember being in the Navy in 1995 and using that album as practice to get faster and more precise in rhythm playing. Thanks, Dino.

  • János Maróthy
    János Maróthy 9 місяців тому +18

    And he's not just throwing around that 190bpm number randomly. I listened to "Shock" right after this and sure enough, it sits at around 190, dude has great recall about all the little ins and outs of his material.

    • Customer Service
      Customer Service 4 місяці тому +5

      A lot of people don't credit Dino, he is a master at his craft.

  • Dylan Cate
    Dylan Cate 2 місяці тому +1

    The wave of BPM in Shock is literally MINDBLOWING!! The way they approached production and putting everything together is so amazing to me

  • GoodLuckBeatz
    GoodLuckBeatz 2 місяці тому +2

    When I was a kid I begged my mom to buy me a game called Carmageddon. Featured on the soundtrack of that game? You guessed it, Fear Factory. After 30 hours of playing that game I sought out their album Obsolete. Was not disappointed 💯

  • Alamander
    Alamander 3 місяці тому +7

    I got to meet him several times but never at his shows. I walked out to smoke as a kid like 15 or 16 when Otep, chimaira and five pointe o played the whiskey like 20 years ago, he was literally walking out of Deftones at the Roxy and I was wearing a camo colored Fear Factory shirt. He talked to me for about 20 mins and signed my shirt. I've always loved the guy. Those first four FF albums absolutely kill

  • 21st Century Metal
    21st Century Metal 3 місяці тому +2

    These guys got me into the all super heavy stuff. They were my break threw band that opened me up to a few different genres.

  • #BullyInSpace #darts #stratosphere #PDC #WDF HAB

    I worked with FF 1996 /2001. Touring Europe and uk was amazing. Ozzfests etc. just absolute memories. Met the biggest bands on the world because of FF I’ll always love those times

  • hunterofpike
    hunterofpike 3 місяці тому +5

    I have the utmost respect for Dino. I remember way back when I saw ꟻF when they were on tour with Monster Magnet and Rob Zombie headlining. Monster Magnet played one full song and when the next song started, the crowd turned on them and started throwing shit. Something hit the lead singer in the head and he said fuck it and walked off. They did not return, so the curtain dropped and they set up ꟻF. As soon as they started playing, Dino laid down the law and said if anyone in the crowd threw shit at them, he would personally come down off the stage and whip some ass. It was AWESOME!!!!! They stole the show that night!

    • Ted Boom
      Ted Boom 2 місяці тому +1

      Dino loved spitting at the crowd back then tho I remember and Burton doing a freakout rolling all over the ground singing MARTYR

    • Ted Boom
      Ted Boom 2 місяці тому +1

      That tour changed my life. My first metal show ever. I was 11 and here in Toronto when monster magnet played this chick got onstage n blew the lead singer. Zombie was on a mission back then, could tell he was out to prove himself then

  • Jesse Wetzel
    Jesse Wetzel 2 місяці тому +1

    First time hearing this podcast... You let the guest talk and ask all the right questions, plus have the right enthusiasm and input. Good job! Subscribed.

  • Drummer2585
    Drummer2585 2 місяці тому +1

    One of the best metal albums of all time i still rock that sh*t 🤘😎

  • Axe Addict
    Axe Addict 24 дні тому

    I always loved the version of "cars" they did on that album. Demanufacture is a great album and one of my favorites. Then I think obsolete came out, then digimortal I think. All excellent stuff.

  • Cyrus
    Cyrus 2 місяці тому +3

    It's a shame how many metal heads don't even know Fear Factory. The Digimortal and Demanufacture are legendary.

    • Taz Blizzard
      Taz Blizzard Місяць тому

      Seriously? They were massive in the 90s, especially in Australia.

  • Jesse Olson
    Jesse Olson 9 місяців тому +10

    I miss Fear Factory. I would love to see Burton come back for 1 more tour. I seen them twice Ill do 3

  • Mrln Strousden
    Mrln Strousden 2 місяці тому +2

    😂 his impression of Vinnie Paul killed me

  • Mister Baker
    Mister Baker 4 місяці тому +1

    Still one of my favorite bands. I was on board since I found them on a compilation of new death metal bands.

  • hazeykun
    hazeykun 9 місяців тому +1

    Shock was amazing live! They had excellent light setups for the drums!!

  • Rob Roth
    Rob Roth 2 місяці тому +1

    Saw them during this tour with Rob zombie and monster magnet and they were by far the best band on that tour

    • Killing Myself To Live
      Killing Myself To Live 11 днів тому

      Nonsense, they can't hold a candle to Monster Magnet...

    • irishmetalfan
      irishmetalfan 2 місяці тому +2

      Wouldn't be hard with that line up to be fair

  • Razatti Music
    Razatti Music 4 місяці тому +1

    man i love these stories I can relate as a creator to one of my idols. The work horse behind the music.

  • adrian mixit
    adrian mixit 3 місяці тому +6

    The electric sampling Fear Factory did, changed metal.

  • Prism
    Prism 3 місяці тому +14

    the bass hit in Shock would make my cd walkman skip

  • Vladmir Putinho
    Vladmir Putinho 26 днів тому +1

    Obsolete was a punch in my face, I never forget the first time I heard it!

  • Andy Maude
    Andy Maude 2 місяці тому

    I met them all at the big day out in nz years ago,total legends

  • AllenP
    AllenP 2 місяці тому +1

    Obsolete is in my top 5 albums I wish I could hear on a £10,000 hi-fi

  • krazyhartin
    krazyhartin 8 місяців тому +1

    I love these stories. I'm watching clips of the podcast, now I gotta watch it. :)

  • One-Eye
    One-Eye 2 місяці тому +2

    I'm a big fan of Rhys Fulber's project Conjure One. There's some great songwriting in there.

    • ProgrammedForDamage
      ProgrammedForDamage 2 місяці тому

      Most of the stuff he touches is gold. I love Front Line Assembly.

  • Mark K
    Mark K 2 місяці тому +7

    Korn's 1st album was amazing!

  • ForLorNVuLgaR
    ForLorNVuLgaR 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks to FF we have bands like Sybreed that carried that sound further

  • DjJokerr
    DjJokerr 5 місяців тому +1

    Still my favorite album!

  • Tim Sayre
    Tim Sayre 2 місяці тому

    I seen these guys at a little festival around '98. On Each Side Of the Stage The Promoters Hung Big Signs That Said 'No Moshing', One Guy From The Band Cut the Signs Down and threw them Into the Crowd Which Started A Huge Mosh Pit. That Was The Coolest Shit At That Festival, plus moshing on a Blacktop Is so Metal. Bloody Knees everywhere.

  • blueridger28
    blueridger28 7 місяців тому +1

    Dino is every musician I ever wanted to work with

    • Jorge Vergara
      Jorge Vergara 5 місяців тому +1

      Dino's machine gun riffs is a trademark

  • Straw242
    Straw242 Місяць тому

    Would be cool to get Raymond back on the drums!

  • irishmetalfan
    irishmetalfan 2 місяці тому +1

    Soul of a New Machine and Demanufacture are Fear Factorys best work

  • Adam Massacre
    Adam Massacre Місяць тому +2

    I laughed when Garza wowed at a dictaphone lol "Oh Wow!" You've seriously never heard of a dictaphone? Dude is nearly 40 he knows what a dictaphone is 😆😆

    • terremoto666
      terremoto666 Місяць тому +1

      It also made me chuckle. I had this thing in post Soviet Ukraine xD

    • terremoto666
      terremoto666 Місяць тому +1

      He's trying to make it relatable to the generations z+

  • Ἀπολλύων
    Ἀπολλύων 2 місяці тому +2

    Borrowed my grandmother's Jeep one day when I was about 17. I legitimately blew out her speakers with "Shock." Had to buy her new ones. lol

  • Fromaggio
    Fromaggio 12 днів тому

    The story about thinking about riffs on the bus is so humbling, so many people having to take the bus to practice.

  • Rob Cary
    Rob Cary 2 місяці тому

    The dr rhythm boss drum machine....man that takes me back haha the one we have in the family is still kickin

  • Matthew Rardin
    Matthew Rardin Місяць тому +1

    Their best album.

    MEXXECUTIONER 5 місяців тому +5

    Why doesn't he ask what happened to Raymond he was a beast on drums and one of the best drummers dino ever had?

    • From Depths We Rise
      From Depths We Rise 3 місяці тому +2

      Raymond had reportedly retired from drumming back in the 2010's.

  • BrokenFaced Clown
    BrokenFaced Clown 2 місяці тому

    Dino an max cavalera need to make a band together

  • Nuno Darrell
    Nuno Darrell 2 місяці тому

    Dino “dead easy to make…goes like ta trrrrrr ta!”
    Garza: 🤣

  • Andres Fuselli
    Andres Fuselli 2 місяці тому

    I remember go to the store and the guy working there says listen to this.
    It was Demanufacture it was so special a very special moment.
    FF was so special

  • xx7secondsxx
    xx7secondsxx 3 місяці тому

    Fenriz of DarkThrone taught me about a dictaphone in UNTIL THE LIGHT TAKES US.
    The DEFINITIVE docu/film on MAYHEM & NORWAYS BLK METAL scene.
    To hell with LORDS OF CHAOS

  • Travis aus
    Travis aus Місяць тому

    Scumgrief is still my favourite song .

  • Blak Kauldron Music
    Blak Kauldron Music 5 місяців тому +7

    No one could f with FF for a hot min
    Other bands were mad jealous imo

  • Robert Turner
    Robert Turner 2 місяці тому

    Best fn album!

  • Blackstar Kaos
    Blackstar Kaos Місяць тому

    I want that shirt Dino 🤘🤘🤘

  • FurnaceFuneral84
    FurnaceFuneral84 5 місяців тому +1

    Might sound weird but I never noticed how nice dinos hands are 🤚

  • Riko Simmo
    Riko Simmo Місяць тому

    Incredible production on Obsolete. Probably the last time Dino had good organic aggressive guitar tone. He needs to get rid of the digital crap and go back to a roided out Marshall or something

  • Paul Knowles
    Paul Knowles 2 місяці тому +2

    Ok I feel old as shit now listening to that dictaphone description and the complete lack of knowing what one is 🤣🤣

    • Mat Turner
      Mat Turner 2 місяці тому

      That should make you feel young, not old.

  • James Clark
    James Clark 2 місяці тому +1

    Dicta phone: Dictation microphone. Just a small tape recorder.
    Like a voice recorder on any modern phone.

  • WeS DMF
    WeS DMF 23 дні тому

    Obsolete, help me out through my teenage years going through some heavy things

  • J Clevenger
    J Clevenger 7 місяців тому +2

    I prefer Korn's organic sound.

  • ToxSin
    ToxSin 2 місяці тому +1

    The interviewer "Wowing" everything Dino says 🤣. Dino " I was on a bus heading to band practice" Interviewer "Wow". Dino "I woke up & farted" Interviewer "Wow". Dino " I came up with riffs in my head" Interviewer "Wow". People in the comments section "Man my mind is blown at how much of a legend & a brilliant mind Dino is" 🤣

  • John's Modular Jams
    John's Modular Jams 2 місяці тому

    "back in the day I didn't have a Dictaphone". Lol

    EXSENTRIX 11 місяців тому +3


  • M Liza
    M Liza 2 дні тому

    Obsolete should be the model of any metal album ever after. Toooo much power period.... end of story..... If not check out Shock Fist of the North Star vid.... and that is just the intro song which is one of their best ever!!!!!!

  • Hoo Flungdung
    Hoo Flungdung 2 місяці тому +4

    "Dictaphone, you heard of that" ?
    "..umm nooo"
    "You never heard of that"??
    OK thanks for making me feel old at 42..

    • Liadain O'Driscoll
      Liadain O'Driscoll 2 місяці тому

      Me at 38 looking at this guy who hasn't heard of a dictaphone like 😬

    • Claudia Solomon
      Claudia Solomon 2 місяці тому

      I'm 41, I never heard of a Dictaphone until today.

    • Mat Turner
      Mat Turner 2 місяці тому

      *young, dictaphones are old

    • john haworth
      john haworth 2 місяці тому

      40 here. I'm as traumatised as you.

  • Fader
    Fader 2 місяці тому

    Smoked a bowl with one of the Fear Factor guys in a bathroom at the ir show in Albany in like 1991 lol

  • EsotericOccultist
    EsotericOccultist 2 місяці тому


  • Gonzalo Nieto
    Gonzalo Nieto 8 місяців тому +1

    Dino Cazares, Andreas Kisser, or Kirk
    Hammet, are the Biggest...! LeadguitarS! ! in a yesterday & Today
    !!! 🇲🇽 🇧🇷 🇺🇸~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  • Graham Clark
    Graham Clark 2 місяці тому +2

    Dude's never heard of a dictaphone. Man I'm getting old!

  • ScoTTy MetalMusic
    ScoTTy MetalMusic 2 місяці тому +2

    Fear factory created the basics of djent

  • Ole Gunner solskjaer
    Ole Gunner solskjaer 2 місяці тому

    So glad fear factory are coming back with a new album........... oh wait it’s not 2003 and Fear Factory aren’t relevant anymore

  • Ulthbert
    Ulthbert 2 місяці тому

    Saw them open for Iron Maiden

  • Phantom of da Dopera
    Phantom of da Dopera 3 місяці тому

    Foot remote ? Can u punch in n out with it?

  • jordan norman
    jordan norman 2 місяці тому

    Love poweshifter.

  • JH
    JH 23 дні тому

    "Raymond I got an idea! *bshhh drrr drrr*"

  • Big Hock
    Big Hock 2 місяці тому +1

    Ccchhhhh, There is a Fear Factory in this division.....

  • A Path Trampled by Deer
    A Path Trampled by Deer 2 місяці тому +2

    Obsolete,ironically it is anything but Obsolete.

  • The Starseeker
    The Starseeker 2 місяці тому


  • Tim Bee
    Tim Bee 26 днів тому

    Obsolete & Digimortal we're fkn CLASSIC FF

  • baptiste batancibure
    baptiste batancibure 2 місяці тому


  • Fabio Girardi
    Fabio Girardi 29 днів тому

    Fear factory Leaders....Others Followers

  • Alfredo Salvador Musmeci Fernández
    Alfredo Salvador Musmeci Fernández 2 місяці тому +1

    - Gimme a trrtrrtrrtata

  • Twobarpsi
    Twobarpsi 2 місяці тому

    FF 🤘🤘🤘!!

  • Axe Addict
    Axe Addict 24 дні тому

    That just goes to show you that some of the best albums were written in a couple of months. When you take too much time on it then you should just scrap it and start over. Pantera wrote Vulgar in a month or so too. Leave it to Vinnie Paul to be a dick...lol. He was just jealous probably.

  • Diab Soule
    Diab Soule Місяць тому

    Fear factory was way ahead of its time. Most metal core and death core is just copying fear factorys techniques

  • Tyler Anthony Beauvais
    Tyler Anthony Beauvais 2 місяці тому

    I love Dino but he is a control freak.

    • ChachaChapati
      ChachaChapati Місяць тому

      Hard agree. Especially if Tommy Vext's tales are to be believed.

  • Paul Laing
    Paul Laing 2 місяці тому


  • oneclipleft
    oneclipleft 7 місяців тому +2

    Never meet your heroes.

  • JenErik🤘
    JenErik🤘 2 місяці тому

    Samples and triggers 🤮

  • internet é il male assoluto
    internet é il male assoluto 3 місяці тому +4

    O wow really? Yeah yeah totally yeah wow yeah yes yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah huge wow yeah