The one thing I gotta say-according to Jim Carrey and Cannibal Corpse, he is a big fan of the band and specifically requested the band perform for the scene so he could meet them
Lol, he is not a BIG FAN of the band. He calls Cannibal Corpse and Napalm Death "thrash metal bands". For sure he tried to listen to them, and he found it interesting, but Im pretty damn' sure he never listened to more than a couple of CC albums, tops. And I highly doubt if he kept listening to it after that.
The girlfriend that claims to like certain music and playing games then tells you once you are in it that she really isn’t. It’s ok to be into anything it’s never ok to be a poser
I share Dino's sentiments 100%. I totally understand that as metal heads, we were outcasts when we came up. Metal was OUR thing. But now the thing we were made fun of for is cool. And if a Kardashian wearing a metal shirt gets someone new into a metal band that I like, that's awesome. I have no issue with anyone wearing a metal shirt anywhere.
The issue is that the Kardashians, the same people wearing those metal shirts, absolutely hate on metal music and metalheads. They aren't Margot Robbie, who is and has always been part of the community, being emo in her teens and a well-versed metal connoisseur during adulthood.
I totally feel this. My 19 year old daughter wears Motorhead shirts and doesn't even listen to them. She can no longer wear this shirt in my house unless she listens to them for 2 hours straight and it has to be in front of me or near me so I can sign her off with a proper checklist.
My niece when she was 14 (she's now 31) wore a Black Flag tshirt and had no idea who they were. I don't think it's that big of a deal, at the end of the day they're only kids.
No. No. He pretended to know about them. It was a recurring joke until the movie came out and half heartedly said he liked them and ND but still was laughing. He never once, sat down in an interview and seriously said he was a death metal fan, ever. If you have a link to one I'd love to see it.
@@06mrselfdestructlook at it this way, badass gotta make a living too. As much as it is a passion of the, it's also their job, they gotta make money. Besides a $20 band Tee in the 80s was like a $50 band Tee today. Even though I did band tees are still under$50 most tees run $25 to $35 and $45 for along sleeve and hoodie as much as $60 now a days.
I remember my daughter Lola was 8 years old and Dino was at a local venue she asked to leave practice early so we could meet him and we did get to meet him and even got a picture. He was very cool in Gallup NM
FF kind of went through something similar to this when they covered the song Cars with Gary Numan. Everyone was calling them sellouts. That was just bs.
Interesting, because when he mentioned Fear Factory and games, I instantly recalled carmageddon. It actually was the first time, when I heard Zero Signal
At Reading Festival in 2001 the sister of my girlfriend at the time was shocked when she saw Fear Factory on the line-up, because she had never realised they were a band she just thought Fear Factory was a t-shirt brand that appealed to metal fans 🤣🤣
Jim knew who Cannibal Corpse was. He asked what song they were going to play and named songs. He even got them in the movie . Jim loves Death Metal and extreme music.
He originally wanted Napalm Death in the film but they declined. I think the reason why they declined was because they thought it'd be a joke or rather a joke on them of sorts, don't quote me, that is some of what I heard in an interview online.
When I was a teenager, think I heard FF on a test drive 5 PS1 game, was at the mall and bought obsolete album. Imagine being 13 years old listening to that album lol. It's still my favorite ff album.
Awesome you got Dino, Finn! What a balanced way to look at the situation- totally agree. The publicity is hardly gunna hurt the band, especially if it means more people get into the genre. I’m for it! Thanks Finn - you rock!
Jim Carrey actually suggested Cannibal Corpse and met the band before the were due on set and asked if they were gonna do Hammer Smashed Face or Blood Drenched Execution. And Chris Barnes went on record saying it would crack Jim up cause Chris would be grossed out when Jim did his outstretched neck thing
Blood Drenched Execution 😂 😂 😂. He asked if they were going to play Rancid Amputation ( a song that ironically the band had forgotten how to play) , or Hammersmashed Face. Obviously he didn't insist that CC re learn Rancid Amputation ( his original choice of for the song, possibly due to it's ridiculous title, more than it being his personal favorite) . Napalm Death was actually his first choice for the band to appear on his new film, but for whatever reason they were unable to make an appearance. He couldn't have them perform Meathook Sodomy, Addicted To Vaginal Skin, I Cum Blood, or Entrails Ripped From a Virgins Cunt for obvious reasons. So he probably picked the most outrageous song title for the movie that he could get away with, and not be too offensive to the public. He did like Pantera, AC/DC ,and other mainstream Hard Rock, and Metal bands, but he found Death Metal Vocals to provide a more comedic aspect to enhance the outrageous comedic aspect of the movie. If he were truly a huge Cannibal Corpse fan , he probably wouldn't have insisted on editing the credits, which mistakenly read Cannibal Corpses, not Cannibal Corpse
@@screamingscarecrow4251 I am sure that he probably liked Cannibal Corpse, but he probably wasn't that familiar with their work. Like everyone else he probably was more familiar with Death, Morbid Angel, Napalm Death, Entombed, Obituary etc. Oddly enough prior to Ace Ventura Cannibal Corpse were pretty underground. Whether he drove down the highway blasting Butchered At Birth on a daily basis is something only his girlfriend, friends and family know for sure. But he definitely helped Cannibal Corpse becoming more popular
The Mortal Kombat Soundtrack set the foundation for my love of metal and techno. Orbital and Fear Factory on one album and a young 8 year old with nothing but time to fall in love with music.
@@eatassonthefirstdate yeah from some I would but then I’d bring some into it to give it a listen, when I went to the Army I met guys that were just like me. Even White guys that loved Rap as well as Metal and Country. Coolest thing about Music is that *GOOD MUSIC* always has the Power to bring people together at some point. Rock on 🤘🏾
I was the ONLY white guy in the projects listening to Metal and Rap. It wasn't South Central but it wasn't too far from Boston but still "HOOD" nonetheless. Not that our skin color has any bearing on our "distinguished" taste in music. We're just enlightened and not closed minded.
I remember back in school from 83 to 86 I use to wear Metal shirts. Slayer Venom, Nuclear Assault. Dark Angel nobody told me anything. Actually people would tell me cool shirts.
True. Listening to Zero Signal back in the day in MK was absolutely amazing. In my case, I started to get into more heavy music thanks to that moment. Fun fact: I still play that fight from MK from time to time just to listen to that song
Dino is hands down the coolest musician i have ever met in person, he came outside to the parking lot where hundreds of fans were waitng after the concert and signed everyone's stuff and took pictures with everyone until everyone got it. Mad respect from Texas Dino and Fear Factory.
the other thing is that it arbitrarily decides who looks like they "should" be wearing metal shirts and whose enjoyment is genuine. miley cyrus has worn Metallica shirts for years (at least since i was a kid) and the fact that she wanted to cover and collaborate with them should hardly come as a surprise. john darnielle of the mountain goats is also rather famously into death metal despite being a "sad folk guy" and while people certainly fail to ask him about it, he's also never accused of harming or watering down the subculture. which i think is interesting.
@@offtheline-x8w i've fallen back into listening to I Only Listen To The Mountain Goats while i study so i'm definitely in a bit of a darnielle spiral myself! but i always thought the same thing, and his capability of capturing truly bleak images in his lyrics adds to the effect.
@@spankyjeffro5320 that's not true nor what i said. people did make fun of miley and accuse her of essentially being a poser, not knowing or liking the bands on her shirts. when she collabed with Metallica, alot of people were shocked despite the fact that she had been wearing their shirts for years. i brought up John because he also doesn't look like a stereotypical metal head and doesn't make anything close to metal music. people are surprised when they find out that he does actually listen to the bands he references but his interest is more likely to be assumed to be sincere and he's assumed to be more knowledgeable than people like miley, typically young women who also don't look like they "should" listen to a given genre of music. that's literally my whole point. you have no idea what music someone listens to just by looking at them.
Same anytime I see one of these youngsters wearing a old school band t-shirt I ask them questions about the band and every single time these youngsters have not a single clue about the artist they're just wearing the shirt to be cool fukn posers are a cool trend now and this new generation has nothing original of their own not like they're actually listening to the music and that defeats the purpose
And posers we still call them to this day according to Finn mccool that makes us Boomer GateKeeper Russian troll Bots man this guy is catering to a certain age group and he is thirsty for it
🤘dino is a chill dude. i met him and ff at an obsolete album signing at the old vintage vinyl in jersey. i asked the ff drummer ray- regardless that you use triggers on your kit, you're still fast as fuck on the double kick and that's awesome. ray said thanks man, and dino looked at me and said- he cheats, ray wears cowboy boots and rocks back on his heels to get his speed. 🤘🤣
It's interesting how pop culture moves in 20-year cycles. The trend of celebrities wearing metal or hard rock band shirts also happened in the early 2000s.
I cared about this kind of shit in high school. Now that I'm in my 40s I really don't give a shit. Wear it, don't wear it. I couldn't give less of a fuck.
Everybody says it's stupid to care about this stuff because seems like the "mature", "open-minded" thing to say, but there's no age for hating "poserism". Maybe it's an overdramatic example, but chinese people of all ages think is annoying when a white guy shows up with chinese letters tattoos (not knowing "hello" in the language) because it's so cool and cosmopolitan - it's the same principle.
This pisses me off, too. But calling out my own hypocrisy, I've worn Boston Red Sox Hats for 20 years. I like baseball and all, but don't really follow and couldn't name a single current player.😆
Super pumped that Dino mentioned that Remanufacture got decent exposure because of gaming. I heard of Fear Factory for the first time after hearing a couple of tracks on Test Drive 5 (probably in late ‘98), and ended up getting Remanufacture and Demanufacture witching a few weeks of playing that game 😂
Funny you mention Cradle of Filth as I met the guys at a Fear Factory show about 20 years ago in Wolverhampton, uk. That was some show, they were note perfect
We had a problem here in the UK with a high street fashion retailer who started selling these t shirts, and was quite successful then moving onto biker gang logos. I was at this local metal nightclub back in the 90's and I spotted this girl wearing this "support your local outlaws" type tank top and the group of Hell's Angel's running the security all of a sudden became very interested. I went over to her, explaining to her that she was in the deepest shit she's probably ever been in and to put on my (unfortunately quite sweaty) NIN long sleeve and come with me. I "smuggled" her out of the club and when we were away from the noise i explained properly why I'd done what I'd done. Turns out she was only 16 and shouldn't have even been in the club, this was the early days of mobile phones so I phoned her Dad and asked him to come and collect her. When he arrived she was asked in no uncertain terms to get in the car and he was trying to give me money but I wasn't interested in money, I just told him to get her to lose the biker shirt... I never did get that long sleeve back but I hope that she maybe looked up some Nine Inch Nails at least. Every cloud and all that
Respect Dino! Listening to Fear Factory soundtrack while working out in the gym back in '95 & still listening. Seen y'all a couple of times. My Favorite Band!! Keep On Rockn🎤🎸🤘😈
@@fclefjeff Like I said...."Don't back what you don't know". This means if your not familiar with the band or the songs, and you WEAR the shirt....then YES you are a POSER!! Doesn't matter if your 17 or 57 yrs of age. Or stuck in any time frame. TROLL!
I was jumped and mocked for being a skateboarder in high school. Now the same types are wearing knock off Thrasher hoodies and Vans. It does get me frustrated.
I'm old school - Maiden/Priest/Sabbath - and I can definitely relate to the outcast thing. Growing up in the late 70s , early 80s you were branded by a t-shirt unless it said something banal like KISS or the Eagles. I was surprised when Ramones t-shirts started appearing on celebs, then the whole tattoo thing exploded, but for many it's just fashion. They grew up with Slipknot blending metal and theatre so I guess wearing a t-shirt is no biggie. I like early Metallica but compared to the 'core bands, they seem like mellow old rockers ;)
I still wear my Maiden and Ozzy shirts at 44. I do still wear my Metallica shirts as well ( only JUSTICE, RIDE THE LIGHTNING, and PUPPETS) but I feel kind if wierd about it because I only love the albums from the 80's. But what they did in that one decade is enough to thrill me for a lifetime.
In show business there is no such thing as bad publicity. Any exposure on the mainstream media will be positive for any band. Maybe those kids who saw Kanye with that CoF shirt will become the next generation of metalheads.
Ace Ventura was what got me into metal as a kid! Thank god for that movie there was no internet when I was growing up and I lived in a small town so I am very thankful for that movie.
Don't hate on Tupac! He's the OG. I'm a Bay area metal head that grew up in the hood all my best friends growing up were Norteños and 4 brothers that are half black and half Mexican that are skaters. They listened to thrash metal to skate to and went to shows and we would kick it at their place smoke weed and listen to old school hip-hop. Especially tupac.i guess you could say it's the environment I grew up in and a west coast Cali thing. If you know you know, if you don't get it you never will.
@@destroyedbyfedsTupac is the OG of the OGs of hip-hop especially in Cali on the west coast. Tupac is not overrated. He is actually one of the few listenable rappers. His music is timeless!
1.) It's stupid, financially. It's not the 80's, most bands only make money by touring and merch now. You want to decrease your merch sales? 2.) It is really childish to say someone can't spend THEIR money on a clothing item and wear it, just because they don't listen to the band. Think about how many people buy clothing items with logos/text on them in other languages that they can't read. Basically the same argument. 3.) It's free advertising. Someone sees "celebrity X" wearing your band's shirt and decides to go check them out and ends up buying a song or album, and you're against that? In my opinion, people who think this way are elitist gatekeepers, or have childish mentalities.
It is free promotion for the bands. If I was teenager and saw a Cannibal Corpse t-shirt on anyone. Fan or no fan. I'll be like, "oh cool" and I would look up Cannibal Corpse because of the art and then discover that I actually love their music. As I indeed do. And I love when I see my favorite bands infects the rest of the human society. They may be clueless. But I am happy, and so should you be
I’ve been into Iron Maiden since I first heard them as a kid in the 1980’s. I recently saw a teenage girl wearing a “Piece of Mind” shirt and although I doubt she even knew who Maiden was, I really didn’t feel one way or another about her wearing it.
Click bait lol. I knew he didn’t care. Dude is a metal head and a business man. Publicity is publicity. But for me if I see “cool” people wearing a band shirt I may retire it from my wardrobe and leave it in the drawer lol
Another problem that I can bring up about someone wearing a band t-shirt but not knowing a single song 🎵 of that particular band, is not knowing the band members or a band's history.
Spent years dealing with the perception that came with being a metalhead. It is easy to look down on these fair-weather fashionistas wearing shirts of bands they don't know and would never listen to. But Dino is right; first, judging them for wearing shirts is not really different from when we are judged for the same thing. Second, free advertising (often by hugely popular celebs) for bands we love and of metal, generally, cannot be a bad thing. So, yeah, it is a bit weak, but ultimately I will encourage anything that helps popularise metal.
Metal is not for everyone. Wear whatever clothes you want but risk scrutiny and ridicule for being disingenuous. This goes for many aspects of being human. Do the research, explore the music.
I hate all these suburban kids who try to front like they grew up poor and are Street!!! They call us Metal fans " Rednecks"??? They are freaking waste products. Dino, Glad you brought this phenomenon up. It may give bands free advertising, but we don't need some phoney wearing a Band shirt who can't name one song
For me people are a billboard for what they like and there fans see it and go oh shit I what to see what that shirts about and if that gets people into the music then I’m all for it.
I got into the Grateful Dead in high school in the mid 70's, was made fun of pretty roundly by all the Kiss Army bullies. Nowadays, I'm pretty well Done with the "Deadhead" scene, with the rise of "Dead & Company" (John Mayernnaise in the Jerry slot? Ugh!) & all the "Dead Cover Bands Inc" industry, all of which provides Zero psychedelia, but caters to the weekend warrior Bud Lite Tallboy chugging 40- & 50-something karaoke singalong to the hits crowd. "Deadheads" in the 70's DID NOT WEAR TIE-DYE'S (watch the Grateful Dead Movie from 1974 - ZERO tie dye's!), I've NEVER IN MY LIFE EVER EVER EVER WORN A TIE DYE!!!!!!!! Nor did they drink compulsively like it's a NASCAR, pro wrestling, or mainstream Kountry event. I'm nowadays a fan of experimental / industrial noise, avant-garde jazz, free jazz, some metal (if it's interesting musically & not about making a fashion statement), etc. Most of the music I listen to now is so loud & obnoxious it would chase most weekend warrior "Deadheads" & fashion statement "Metalheads" right outta the room.
@@horgeaioan3036 I want to emphasize, I'm NOT a metalhead, by any means! In high school: Budgie, UFO, Crack the Sky, much Euro-Prog like Hawkwind, Gong, Soft Machine, Gentle Giant, Nectar. 90's: Mr Bungle, Primus, Clutch. More recently: Ween, metal-esque jambands like Umphrey's McGee, Lespecial, Disco Biscuits, early moe, many many smaller / local bands / projects, many from the Philly music scene. Weird "out there" experimental music but not heavy metal: Sonic Youth & all their experimental side projects, Jackie-O Motherfucker, Thinking Fellers Union 282, Sun City Girls, Cave, many John Zorn / Bill Laswell projects including Painkiller, Buck Jam Tonic, too many others to name, many Nels Cline projects, many EDM/jamband/metal fusion collaborations too numerous to name. Off the top of my head . . . YMMV . . . if I see a lead singer wearing a leather jacket w/too many zippers, I Know I'm in the wrong room lmfao . .
@@sideshowbob I am not a metalhead either even if most of the music i listen it's metal . I know many of your high school era music but the experimental stuff i need to listen . thank you for the reply man
Fyi Jim Carrey is a huge fan of cannibal corpse. He went to their shows back and the day and all. He has said it in interviews that cannibal corpse is his favorite band
as an OLD Metal Head from back in the 80s, my son is finding his way through metal. Slayer is a favorite and he gets mad. I tell him Posers gonna pose. Just walk.
@@ericduke2318 I'm not really into bands whole discographies, I listen to music in terms of albums. It's pretty stupid to blindly follow bands just because. Literally all bands put out albums that aren't that good if they stick around long enough. People evolve and change so if you stick with them through that you have more of a personal connection to their then is really warranted frankly.
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Celebrities are notorious for fakery, with some exceptions
Maybe metalheads should start wearing pop shirts?
@Travis Thompson I got the shirt because I thought Britney was hot?
Once again great podcast so thank you Finn
You're already monetized?!
I'm a rock DJ, A girl comes over to me saying "get this shit off" She was wearing a Ramones hoodie and I was playing Sheena is a punk rocker....
Please tell me she was 86ed immediately!😂🤘
Posers come in many shapes and forms bro.
The one thing I gotta say-according to Jim Carrey and Cannibal Corpse, he is a big fan of the band and specifically requested the band perform for the scene so he could meet them
And Jim Carrey mentioned on a night talk show that he's been listening to Napalm Death.
@@hankgege2199 Yep, Arsenio Hall. He even did some gutturals and imitation blastbeats…sounded hardcore lol
Thank you! Glad someone pointed it out since Dino saying Jim Carrey “didn’t really know the music”
Yea. Jim Carrey is actually a HUGE death metal fan so he knows a lot about the metal scene.
Lol, he is not a BIG FAN of the band. He calls Cannibal Corpse and Napalm Death "thrash metal bands". For sure he tried to listen to them, and he found it interesting, but Im pretty damn' sure he never listened to more than a couple of CC albums, tops. And I highly doubt if he kept listening to it after that.
The girlfriend that claims to like certain music and playing games then tells you once you are in it that she really isn’t. It’s ok to be into anything it’s never ok to be a poser
I share Dino's sentiments 100%. I totally understand that as metal heads, we were outcasts when we came up. Metal was OUR thing. But now the thing we were made fun of for is cool. And if a Kardashian wearing a metal shirt gets someone new into a metal band that I like, that's awesome. I have no issue with anyone wearing a metal shirt anywhere.
The issue is that the Kardashians, the same people wearing those metal shirts, absolutely hate on metal music and metalheads. They aren't Margot Robbie, who is and has always been part of the community, being emo in her teens and a well-versed metal connoisseur during adulthood.
@@Thenewbronzeagecollapse With what evidence? Kourtney Kardashian is absolutely get her cheeks clapped to Cannibal Corpse. It's in her eyes.
That's what I'm saying. No such thing as bad publicity.
@@Thenewbronzeagecollapse Maggot* Robbie
I agree w Dino let them wear it as a fan of extreme music I don’t give a f… What celebs or what kids wear for fashion. More power to them
I was one of those who discovered Fear Factory through the Mortal Kombat (1996) soundtrack!
I totally feel this. My 19 year old daughter wears Motorhead shirts and doesn't even listen to them. She can no longer wear this shirt in my house unless she listens to them for 2 hours straight and it has to be in front of me or near me so I can sign her off with a proper checklist.
make her listen to ace of spades ♠️ & she will be an instant fan,problem solved
This is like the reverse version of Christian parents mad at kids for listening to metal.
My niece when she was 14 (she's now 31) wore a Black Flag tshirt and had no idea who they were. I don't think it's that big of a deal, at the end of the day they're only kids.
@@destroyedbyfeds that is astounding that she found a black flag tshirt. ask her where she got.back in the day,black flag tshirt were not easy to get
@@kevinmitchell4018 it was here in Australia at some women/teens fashion store, I remember it being white. This is going back 16 years ago.
small correction. Jim Carrey is actually a big Cannibal corpse fan.
Yeah Definitely,there’s a good old interview clip of him talking about napalm death also
I remember when Jim arrested was interviewed on Arsenio Hall and he was talking about his love of Cannibal Corpse and Napalm Death. He's an OG.
Yeah he said he was drawn in because he thought the music sounded comical at first but he ended up enjoying it.
I was hoping someone was going to bring this up, J.C. the real O.G.
No. No. He pretended to know about them. It was a recurring joke until the movie came out and half heartedly said he liked them and ND but still was laughing. He never once, sat down in an interview and seriously said he was a death metal fan, ever. If you have a link to one I'd love to see it.
These are not Tees from hot topic the celebs are wearing, they are designer tees from stores in Beverly Hills that cost like $100 - $200
How stupid.
In the 80s, decent concert shirts for 20.00 bux....
@@philyeary yeah now a concert Tee cost $50 or $60
This!
@@06mrselfdestructlook at it this way, badass gotta make a living too. As much as it is a passion of the, it's also their job, they gotta make money. Besides a $20 band Tee in the 80s was like a $50 band Tee today. Even though I did band tees are still under$50 most tees run $25 to $35 and $45 for along sleeve and hoodie as much as $60 now a days.
I remember my daughter Lola was 8 years old and Dino was at a local venue she asked to leave practice early so we could meet him and we did get to meet him and even got a picture. He was very cool in Gallup NM
FF kind of went through something similar to this when they covered the song Cars with Gary Numan. Everyone was calling them sellouts. That was just bs.
Interesting, because when he mentioned Fear Factory and games, I instantly recalled carmageddon. It actually was the first time, when I heard Zero Signal
My only gripe is when the Kardashians (not sure which) tried selling the merch of the bands for their own profit without paying royalties.
I wanna say it was Kylie Jenner. She tried to use Ozzy's name to sell merch. I remember Sharon going off on her on twitter.
@@joshburns4611that’s why there are lawyers.
I get so mad when people can't name 3 Adidas songs
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Life is Peachy, Issues, Follow your Leader
They follow the trends. It's hip to be "weird". Much respect for Dino and FF and all the metalheads out there! Rock music is for everyone to enjoy!
At Reading Festival in 2001 the sister of my girlfriend at the time was shocked when she saw Fear Factory on the line-up, because she had never realised they were a band she just thought Fear Factory was a t-shirt brand that appealed to metal fans 🤣🤣
Let's be honest, fear factory is a rad brand name, no wonder.
Jim knew who Cannibal Corpse was.
He asked what song they were going to play and named songs. He even got them in the movie .
Jim loves Death Metal and extreme music.
Facts
If he loves them so much why does his playlist consist of mainly non metal songs?
He originally wanted Napalm Death in the film but they declined. I think the reason why they declined was because they thought it'd be a joke or rather a joke on them of sorts, don't quote me, that is some of what I heard in an interview online.
@@Annihilation_0f_The_Wicked9066 wow your stupid.
When I was a teenager, think I heard FF on a test drive 5 PS1 game, was at the mall and bought obsolete album. Imagine being 13 years old listening to that album lol. It's still my favorite ff album.
Metal heads were outraged when Miley Cyrus (a musician) wore a Metallica shirt...the most famous metal band of all time
And she's actually a really big rock fan too. People shit on her (I know I have) but she's got chops and she does know her shit.
@@AndrewJShirley yeah I mean if suburban moms hate miley cyrus then shes A O K in my book
She's performed with Metallica multiple times... I think she's a fan.
She released a song with them 😂
@@aaryamannambiar6677 After that, I thought Metallica lost their minds for performing with her.
Now when I think about it really doesn't matter. Haha
Awesome you got Dino, Finn! What a balanced way to look at the situation- totally agree. The publicity is hardly gunna hurt the band, especially if it means more people get into the genre. I’m for it! Thanks Finn - you rock!
Jim Carrey actually suggested Cannibal Corpse and met the band before the were due on set and asked if they were gonna do Hammer Smashed Face or Blood Drenched Execution. And Chris Barnes went on record saying it would crack Jim up cause Chris would be grossed out when Jim did his outstretched neck thing
Haha did they have a neck competition?
Blood Drenched Execution 😂 😂 😂. He asked if they were going to play Rancid Amputation ( a song that ironically the band had forgotten how to play) , or Hammersmashed Face. Obviously he didn't insist that CC re learn Rancid Amputation ( his original choice of for the song, possibly due to it's ridiculous title, more than it being his personal favorite) . Napalm Death was actually his first choice for the band to appear on his new film, but for whatever reason they were unable to make an appearance. He couldn't have them perform Meathook Sodomy, Addicted To Vaginal Skin, I Cum Blood, or Entrails Ripped From a Virgins Cunt for obvious reasons. So he probably picked the most outrageous song title for the movie that he could get away with, and not be too offensive to the public. He did like Pantera, AC/DC ,and other mainstream Hard Rock, and Metal bands, but he found Death Metal Vocals to provide a more comedic aspect to enhance the outrageous comedic aspect of the movie. If he were truly a huge Cannibal Corpse fan , he probably wouldn't have insisted on editing the credits, which mistakenly read Cannibal Corpses, not Cannibal Corpse
@@godetonter4764 I don't if he was into Cannibal Corpse, but I did see him in an old interview saying he was into death metal.
@@screamingscarecrow4251 He liked Death Metal, but also found it as comedic because of the Vocals, and lyrics
@@screamingscarecrow4251 I am sure that he probably liked Cannibal Corpse, but he probably wasn't that familiar with their work. Like everyone else he probably was more familiar with Death, Morbid Angel, Napalm Death, Entombed, Obituary etc. Oddly enough prior to Ace Ventura Cannibal Corpse were pretty underground. Whether he drove down the highway blasting Butchered At Birth on a daily basis is something only his girlfriend, friends and family know for sure. But he definitely helped Cannibal Corpse becoming more popular
The Mortal Kombat Soundtrack set the foundation for my love of metal and techno. Orbital and Fear Factory on one album and a young 8 year old with nothing but time to fall in love with music.
I work at a school and I saw a young man wearing a Cannibal Corpse shirt. Really blew my mind, asked him if he had every listened and he said no.
I would have asked the superintendent to immediately institute a dress code requiring uniforms.
@@morbidcorpse5954 hell yeah, from now on, every kid must wear a cannibal corpse t-shirt.
Should have forced him to hand over shirt. You could have given him an old plain sweaty t- shirt.😅😅🤣🤣
I was the *ONLY* Black dude in South Central that I ever heard of that listened to Rap and Metal 😂😂😂😂 the only one
Yo did u ever catch shit from your neighborhood locals for it?
Did u listen to it in front of ppl?
@@eatassonthefirstdate yeah from some I would but then I’d bring some into it to give it a listen, when I went to the Army I met guys that were just like me. Even White guys that loved Rap as well as Metal and Country. Coolest thing about Music is that *GOOD MUSIC* always has the Power to bring people together at some point. Rock on 🤘🏾
I was the ONLY white guy in the projects listening to Metal and Rap. It wasn't South Central but it wasn't too far from Boston but still "HOOD" nonetheless. Not that our skin color has any bearing on our "distinguished" taste in music. We're just enlightened and not closed minded.
I remember back in school from 83 to 86 I use to wear Metal shirts. Slayer Venom, Nuclear Assault. Dark Angel nobody told me anything. Actually people would tell me cool shirts.
True. Listening to Zero Signal back in the day in MK was absolutely amazing. In my case, I started to get into more heavy music thanks to that moment.
Fun fact: I still play that fight from MK from time to time just to listen to that song
Johnny Cage vs Scorpion
*nods*
Dino is hands down the coolest musician i have ever met in person, he came outside to the parking lot where hundreds of fans were waitng after the concert and signed everyone's stuff and took pictures with everyone until everyone got it. Mad respect from Texas Dino and Fear Factory.
Im jelly
Yes doing when listen to fear factory, they are overrated
the other thing is that it arbitrarily decides who looks like they "should" be wearing metal shirts and whose enjoyment is genuine. miley cyrus has worn Metallica shirts for years (at least since i was a kid) and the fact that she wanted to cover and collaborate with them should hardly come as a surprise.
john darnielle of the mountain goats is also rather famously into death metal despite being a "sad folk guy" and while people certainly fail to ask him about it, he's also never accused of harming or watering down the subculture. which i think is interesting.
@@offtheline-x8w i've fallen back into listening to I Only Listen To The Mountain Goats while i study so i'm definitely in a bit of a darnielle spiral myself! but i always thought the same thing, and his capability of capturing truly bleak images in his lyrics adds to the effect.
Exactly. Because both Miley and John have shown sincere interest in the bands. That's why they aren't mocked.
@@spankyjeffro5320 that's not true nor what i said. people did make fun of miley and accuse her of essentially being a poser, not knowing or liking the bands on her shirts. when she collabed with Metallica, alot of people were shocked despite the fact that she had been wearing their shirts for years.
i brought up John because he also doesn't look like a stereotypical metal head and doesn't make anything close to metal music. people are surprised when they find out that he does actually listen to the bands he references but his interest is more likely to be assumed to be sincere and he's assumed to be more knowledgeable than people like miley, typically young women who also don't look like they "should" listen to a given genre of music.
that's literally my whole point. you have no idea what music someone listens to just by looking at them.
I talked to a girl for about five minutes about bad brains before I realized she didn’t know what she was wearing.
Same anytime I see one of these youngsters wearing a old school band t-shirt I ask them questions about the band and every single time these youngsters have not a single clue about the artist they're just wearing the shirt to be cool fukn posers are a cool trend now and this new generation has nothing original of their own not like they're actually listening to the music and that defeats the purpose
Posers is what we called them back in my day. 😎👍
And posers we still call them to this day according to Finn mccool that makes us Boomer GateKeeper Russian troll Bots man this guy is catering to a certain age group and he is thirsty for it
I discovered Fear Factory from the Mortal Kombat movie when I was REALLY little and that soundtrack got me into metal 🤘
🤘dino is a chill dude. i met him and ff at an obsolete album signing at the old vintage vinyl in jersey. i asked the ff drummer ray- regardless that you use triggers on your kit, you're still fast as fuck on the double kick and that's awesome. ray said thanks man, and dino looked at me and said- he cheats, ray wears cowboy boots and rocks back on his heels to get his speed. 🤘🤣
It's interesting how pop culture moves in 20-year cycles. The trend of celebrities wearing metal or hard rock band shirts also happened in the early 2000s.
Test Drive games on PS1, that's how I discovered Fear Factory
I cared about this kind of shit in high school. Now that I'm in my 40s I really don't give a shit. Wear it, don't wear it. I couldn't give less of a fuck.
@@squish-bod2573 I care even more that you care that he said the phrase "I COULDN'T give less of a fuck" correctly.
@@majesticpbjcat7707 I care that both of you care because the world needs more caring. 🤘🥳
We all grow up lol! We look back and think how silly it was that we cared or got mad at a bunch of the "little" shit
Everybody says it's stupid to care about this stuff because seems like the "mature", "open-minded" thing to say, but there's no age for hating "poserism". Maybe it's an overdramatic example, but chinese people of all ages think is annoying when a white guy shows up with chinese letters tattoos (not knowing "hello" in the language) because it's so cool and cosmopolitan - it's the same principle.
It’s like the Sega vs Nintendo, Xbox vs Playstation BS.
I remember hearing Fear Factory in an old PS2 demo for a game called Frequency. It was like a precursor to Guitar Hero
This is how we had these metal "wars" that split the genre. For Artists its promotion.
Dino is amazing, very cool guy. Cant wait to hear new Devine Heresy material. RESPECT!
I met Dino at a show back in the day when Divine Heresy came to Salt Lake. Nice guy.
Can't wait to see fear factory in March for my birthday
Test Drive 5 got me into Fear Factory. Most of Remanufacture was on there.
This pisses me off, too. But calling out my own hypocrisy, I've worn Boston Red Sox Hats for 20 years. I like baseball and all, but don't really follow and couldn't name a single current player.😆
Super pumped that Dino mentioned that Remanufacture got decent exposure because of gaming. I heard of Fear Factory for the first time after hearing a couple of tracks on Test Drive 5 (probably in late ‘98), and ended up getting Remanufacture and Demanufacture witching a few weeks of playing that game 😂
Obsolete was THE Fear Factory album.....
Me too!! I got into them from that game.
Fear Factory is nothing without Burton
Thanks To Mortal Kombat I Start Listening To Fear Factory 🤘🏼😎
Funny you mention Cradle of Filth as I met the guys at a Fear Factory show about 20 years ago in Wolverhampton, uk. That was some show, they were note perfect
I met Dino briefly at Rock City too but I doubt he would remember me.
We had a problem here in the UK with a high street fashion retailer who started selling these t shirts, and was quite successful then moving onto biker gang logos.
I was at this local metal nightclub back in the 90's and I spotted this girl wearing this "support your local outlaws" type tank top and the group of Hell's Angel's running the security all of a sudden became very interested.
I went over to her, explaining to her that she was in the deepest shit she's probably ever been in and to put on my (unfortunately quite sweaty) NIN long sleeve and come with me.
I "smuggled" her out of the club and when we were away from the noise i explained properly why I'd done what I'd done. Turns out she was only 16 and shouldn't have even been in the club, this was the early days of mobile phones so I phoned her Dad and asked him to come and collect her.
When he arrived she was asked in no uncertain terms to get in the car and he was trying to give me money but I wasn't interested in money, I just told him to get her to lose the biker shirt... I never did get that long sleeve back but I hope that she maybe looked up some Nine Inch Nails at least. Every cloud and all that
Dont forget about all the FF merch from the Sopranos
Respect Dino! Listening to Fear Factory soundtrack while working out in the gym back in '95 & still listening. Seen y'all a couple of times. My Favorite Band!! Keep On Rockn🎤🎸🤘😈
I been jamming to thier newest album aggression continuum great album
These clips are an awesome idea. Makes it more enticing to jump into the whole podcast
Back in the day we called them "POSER"S"!!! Still true to this day. Don't back what you don't KNOW!
I see you're stuck in tenth grade 😄
@@fclefjeff Like I said...."Don't back what you don't know". This means if your not familiar with the band or the songs, and you WEAR the shirt....then YES you are a POSER!! Doesn't matter if your 17 or 57 yrs of age. Or stuck in any time frame. TROLL!
Dino is a bad ass and a legend!
I was jumped and mocked for being a skateboarder in high school. Now the same types are wearing knock off Thrasher hoodies and Vans. It does get me frustrated.
I'm old school - Maiden/Priest/Sabbath - and I can definitely relate to the outcast thing. Growing up in the late 70s , early 80s you were branded by a t-shirt unless it said something banal like KISS or the Eagles. I was surprised when Ramones t-shirts started appearing on celebs, then the whole tattoo thing exploded, but for many it's just fashion. They grew up with Slipknot blending metal and theatre so I guess wearing a t-shirt is no biggie. I like early Metallica but compared to the 'core bands, they seem like mellow old rockers ;)
I still wear my Maiden and Ozzy shirts at 44. I do still wear my Metallica shirts as well ( only JUSTICE, RIDE THE LIGHTNING, and PUPPETS) but I feel kind if wierd about it because I only love the albums from the 80's. But what they did in that one decade is enough to thrill me for a lifetime.
Fuel injected Dino
Baaaad Dude right there
Raaaad ⚜🤘
Finn dropping the Phobia shout-out! One of the greatest grindcore albums ever
In show business there is no such thing as bad publicity. Any exposure on the mainstream media will be positive for any band. Maybe those kids who saw Kanye with that CoF shirt will become the next generation of metalheads.
Zero Signal should've had it's own music video.
Dino is the shit. I've met him once during the Obsolete tour and even got his autograph. I really hope whoever the new singer is sounds good.
Wearing a band t-shirt can be about appreciating the design and art as well as the music. People can wear what they want. No rules, no conditions.
Ace Ventura was what got me into metal as a kid! Thank god for that movie there was no internet when I was growing up and I lived in a small town so I am very thankful for that movie.
Jim carrey was telling cannibal corpse what songs too play loves them look it upp
And I’ll never wear a Tupac shirt……ever!
Overrated, never understood his appeal.
@@destroyedbyfeds It's not trap, that's the best way to look at it. Old school hip-hop
Don't hate on Tupac! He's the OG. I'm a Bay area metal head that grew up in the hood all my best friends growing up were Norteños and 4 brothers that are half black and half Mexican that are skaters. They listened to thrash metal to skate to and went to shows and we would kick it at their place smoke weed and listen to old school hip-hop. Especially tupac.i guess you could say it's the environment I grew up in and a west coast Cali thing. If you know you know, if you don't get it you never will.
@@destroyedbyfedsTupac is the OG of the OGs of hip-hop especially in Cali on the west coast. Tupac is not overrated. He is actually one of the few listenable rappers. His music is timeless!
@@destroyedbyfedsnaw fear factory is overrated
1.) It's stupid, financially. It's not the 80's, most bands only make money by touring and merch now. You want to decrease your merch sales?
2.) It is really childish to say someone can't spend THEIR money on a clothing item and wear it, just because they don't listen to the band. Think about how many people buy clothing items with logos/text on them in other languages that they can't read. Basically the same argument.
3.) It's free advertising. Someone sees "celebrity X" wearing your band's shirt and decides to go check them out and ends up buying a song or album, and you're against that?
In my opinion, people who think this way are elitist gatekeepers, or have childish mentalities.
I like to do combinations and one I do with Fear Factory is Timelessness & Full Metal Contact.
It is free promotion for the bands. If I was teenager and saw a Cannibal Corpse t-shirt on anyone. Fan or no fan. I'll be like, "oh cool" and I would look up Cannibal Corpse because of the art and then discover that I actually love their music. As I indeed do. And I love when I see my favorite bands infects the rest of the human society. They may be clueless. But I am happy, and so should you be
Whatever Dino’s doing, I’m into. I really hope that Fear Factory finds another vocalist, or reconciles with Burton :)
Good on ya dino you rock mate glad we met at sound wave you truley are a great guitarist metal rules
in the window of a menswear store in the mall, they had casual suits on the mannequins with metallica shirts on
3:57 That’s the thing. I’ve had the pleasure of hanging out with a few MTV people at one point. They were listening to #fearfactory then.
The ONLY two metal Ts I ever wore that WERENT concerts I went to were a METALLICA shirt I got for Xmas and a Misfits tee.🤨
2:10 cradle of filth. 🤛🙏😛💥
Ace Ventura did actually like Cannibal Corpse. He was listening to them in his dressing room and the director suggested the scene.
I found out about Fear Factory when I was 12, playing demolition racer on ps one.
I’ve been into Iron Maiden since I first heard them as a kid in the 1980’s. I recently saw a teenage girl wearing a “Piece of Mind” shirt and although I doubt she even knew who Maiden was, I really didn’t feel one way or another about her wearing it.
Click bait lol. I knew he didn’t care. Dude is a metal head and a business man. Publicity is publicity. But for me if I see “cool” people wearing a band shirt I may retire it from my wardrobe and leave it in the drawer lol
The man himself, El Presidente!🤘😈
Another problem that I can bring up about someone wearing a band t-shirt but not knowing a single song 🎵 of that particular band, is not knowing the band members or a band's history.
Spent years dealing with the perception that came with being a metalhead. It is easy to look down on these fair-weather fashionistas wearing shirts of bands they don't know and would never listen to. But Dino is right; first, judging them for wearing shirts is not really different from when we are judged for the same thing. Second, free advertising (often by hugely popular celebs) for bands we love and of metal, generally, cannot be a bad thing. So, yeah, it is a bit weak, but ultimately I will encourage anything that helps popularise metal.
Metal is not for everyone. Wear whatever clothes you want but risk scrutiny and ridicule for being disingenuous. This goes for many aspects of being human. Do the research, explore the music.
This is a great interview.
I mean , they're still advertising the bands you love. There are worse things to care about.
Metal is a way of life, not a fashion statement.
I hate all these suburban kids who try to front like they grew up poor and are Street!!! They call us Metal fans " Rednecks"??? They are freaking waste products. Dino, Glad you brought this phenomenon up. It may give bands free advertising, but we don't need some phoney wearing a Band shirt who can't name one song
Hey I don’t mean to interrupt but Jim Carrey loves Cannibal Corpse that’s why they were in the movie.
For me people are a billboard for what they like and there fans see it and go oh shit I what to see what that shirts about and if that gets people into the music then I’m all for it.
I got into the Grateful Dead in high school in the mid 70's, was made fun of pretty roundly by all the Kiss Army bullies.
Nowadays, I'm pretty well Done with the "Deadhead" scene, with the rise of "Dead & Company" (John Mayernnaise in the Jerry slot? Ugh!) & all the "Dead Cover Bands Inc" industry, all of which provides Zero psychedelia, but caters to the weekend warrior Bud Lite Tallboy chugging 40- & 50-something karaoke singalong to the hits crowd. "Deadheads" in the 70's DID NOT WEAR TIE-DYE'S (watch the Grateful Dead Movie from 1974 - ZERO tie dye's!), I've NEVER IN MY LIFE EVER EVER EVER WORN A TIE DYE!!!!!!!! Nor did they drink compulsively like it's a NASCAR, pro wrestling, or mainstream Kountry event.
I'm nowadays a fan of experimental / industrial noise, avant-garde jazz, free jazz, some metal (if it's interesting musically & not about making a fashion statement), etc. Most of the music I listen to now is so loud & obnoxious it would chase most weekend warrior "Deadheads" & fashion statement "Metalheads" right outta the room.
hey man can you please name some of the bands you listen to so I can be knocked out of the room
@@horgeaioan3036 I want to emphasize, I'm NOT a metalhead, by any means!
In high school: Budgie, UFO, Crack the Sky, much Euro-Prog like Hawkwind, Gong, Soft Machine, Gentle Giant, Nectar. 90's: Mr Bungle, Primus, Clutch. More recently: Ween, metal-esque jambands like Umphrey's McGee, Lespecial, Disco Biscuits, early moe, many many smaller / local bands / projects, many from the Philly music scene.
Weird "out there" experimental music but not heavy metal: Sonic Youth & all their experimental side projects, Jackie-O Motherfucker, Thinking Fellers Union 282, Sun City Girls, Cave, many John Zorn / Bill Laswell projects including Painkiller, Buck Jam Tonic, too many others to name, many Nels Cline projects, many EDM/jamband/metal fusion collaborations too numerous to name.
Off the top of my head . . . YMMV . . . if I see a lead singer wearing a leather jacket w/too many zippers, I Know I'm in the wrong room lmfao . .
System of a Down, All Them Witches. I'm so Old I've Forgotten more music than I can remember lmfao Oh yeah pre Black Album Metallica, Fate's Warning
@@sideshowbob I am not a metalhead either even if most of the music i listen it's metal . I know many of your high school era music but the experimental stuff i need to listen . thank you for the reply man
@@sideshowbob Fates Warning are gods on this mortal Earth . Pre Black Album Metallica are great too
Dino is wrong about Jim Carrey and metal. Jim was talking about his love of thrash metal on Arsenio Hall before Ace Ventura was a thing.
That Arsenio clip of Jim doing the gutteral vocal impression with "you don't bring me flowers" is fuckin hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
If you freak out over what a stranger is wearing you got more problem than you know
For real, I'll never understand why it is such a recurring debate in the metal community lol
Nailed it! 👍
What kind of headphones are you wearing?
I wish a Kardashian would wear my bands shirt
JC is a huge death metal fan actually
So is Will Ferrell
@@metalm4910 That may be why sepultura was used in talladega nights
I spot the real heads by wearing band shirts that are just logos.
Only 2 people have recognized my Locust shirt.
Fyi
Jim Carrey is a huge fan of cannibal corpse. He went to their shows back and the day and all. He has said it in interviews that cannibal corpse is his favorite band
as an OLD Metal Head from back in the 80s, my son is finding his way through metal. Slayer is a favorite and he gets mad. I tell him Posers gonna pose. Just walk.
First off, Jim Carey has preached his love for Cannibal Corpse for years. Second, this is a great conversation 👍
0:28 Travis plays those groups all the time. Knowing him when he wasn’t famous. He likes underground hardcore. 💥💯😉
Dude i didnt know you interviewed dino! Wtf!!
I'm all for ANYBODY being made aware of any obscure band I like by any means. Why would you be mad if your favorite metal band makes money?🤔
If it was about money why didn't said bands just making pop music to begin with?
@@youknowme7797 you think bands that make zero dollars continue to make music for long?
@@ericduke2318 I'm not really into bands whole discographies, I listen to music in terms of albums. It's pretty stupid to blindly follow bands just because. Literally all bands put out albums that aren't that good if they stick around long enough. People evolve and change so if you stick with them through that you have more of a personal connection to their then is really warranted frankly.
Lol....this is "going off"?......Ok then
My mate looks the least "metal guy" you could imagine but ran a black metal label