Reaction to Tua Tagovailoa missing from Dolphins camp amid contract dispute | Nightcap
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- Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Miami Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa skipping team activities amid contract disputes. Unc & Ocho also discuss Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs' chances to become the first NFL team to 3-peat in the Super Bowl era.
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Just because other teams are dumb don't mean I have to be
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too forever❤
As a Bills fan, please extend Tua, extend him for a decade, pay him a lot
We can only hope 🙏🏼
Josh Allen with all of his skills and no Super Bowls. It is long overdue. What is taking so d--- long Bills Fans? smh
As a Jets fan, pay Tua big time. We'll only have to worry about Allen for the division title.
@@carlossaenz7485stop worrying about our Qb .. listen the dolphins have to worry about beating the bills & securing that bum of a QB . We will get ours …
Thank You Buffalo Fan. We see ya in week 2
Tua has never ever won a big game in December or January
Not true
What about September October November are you just going to ignore 3/4 of the season?
And never will.
@@adamlynch6954 no, but it's clearly no enough.
I guess the Dallas game wasn't a big game🤦🏾
If I’m Tua and pretty much had a seizure on the field… I’m DEFINITELY securing my future. That concussion he had was scary.
and if im the Dolphins, I would send Tua out the door. Why would I pay tens of millions to someone who had a siezure on the field...nevermind him being unable to beat good teams, play in cold weather, show leadership abilities on and off the field, shoe the ability to go beyond the first read...should I continue?
He’s already secured his future.
Indeed. This is just me, but if I had seen images of my hands and fingers in those unnatural positions, I would have called a press conference right there and retired.
@The_Zilli: Dolphins better try & get Dak Prescott then because I’m not sure who else they can get that’s better than Tua that’s not old.
VERY SCARY HOMIE! CUZZ IF I WAS GOD! NFL PLAYERS WOULD HAVE GUARANTEED CONTRACTS! ( according to their worth on the pay scale obviously)
Dolphins better not give Tua a long term deal bro. I really wanna Miami win in my life time PLEASE.
This is closest Miami has been defense needs to stop falling flat on its face
I feel your pain brother
@@SayLes427 yup, Miami’s defense is why they could only put up 7 points in the playoffs…
@@Michael_Scarn556 ravens dropping 56 points, bills dropping 48 points and titans game defense allowing 14 points in 4 minutes yea lets all blame tua best qb they have had since Marino
@@SayLes427 7 points in the playoffs isn’t going to get you anywhere. And you’re seriously going to try and blame the defense for the titans game when they were the only reason the dolphins were in that game to begin with. They did the heavy lifting all game, setting up easy points and when they needed a break/help from our “top 5 QB” and offense, they can’t stay on the field for even 30 seconds. Y’all celebrate a week 2 win against the ravens from 2 years ago like it was a week 18 in and in game. Minimal pressure/season implications. But when the team actually needs you and your season is on the line, he’s yet to show “it”.
The Eagles played 3 games in 10 days last year and every body wonders why they fell apart.
Ravens and Texans both play 3 games in 10 days this year. December 15th, 21st and 25th vs each other.
Steelers did it in 2020. And no one batted an eye lash
@@to4316Bengals do it this year too
These are pro athletes, getting millions. Meanwhile folks who are literally saving lives go to work very fucking day for hours on end.
So did everybody else yall just are babies
Ocho b on The show lyin so much 😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you and kudos to you for stating the obvious.
You ain't trying if you are not lying.
Everybody Tua trying to compare to has either went to a Super Bowl or a Conference Championship Game. Dont see how Tua trying to get paid as close to Mahommes, Burrow, Hurts, Jackson, and Goff.
Then why is Herbert paid like those guys and accomplished less than Tua?
Those aren’t the only quarterbacks that get paid a Kings Ransom that haven’t been to a conference championship Justin Herbert is paid amazing and he hasn’t won a playoff game so that isn’t a good argument. At the end of the day this is their job and they’re trying to make the most money as possible this isn’t job they can do for 20 years this is a job most of them we’re gonna do for about 12 - 15 years. Rings don’t pay your great grandkids college but his next contract can.
@@theliverpoolking2259Herbert and Tua were drafted in the same year but Herbert has played 9 more games than Tua so he’s been healthier and more available. Herbert has 3 seasons of 4,000 yards and 1 season of 5,000 yards. Tua has 1 season of 4,000 yards. Herbert has 2 seasons with 30 TDs, Tua has 0. Over their careers Herbert has about 4,500 more passing yards and 33 more TDs and that’s with only playing 9 more games. So Herbert has been much more productive in his career than Tua has.
Not herbert tho
@@TheRedsox040711 Oh brother, I’m not reading all that drivel. The only thing here that matters is the part about Herbert being healthier but when the chips were all the same Tua outperformed Herbert as well as won games. He throws the ball far less than him too but is far more efficient. The past 2 years (when Tua actually had a real coach and a real offense) both have played 30 games each and Tua wipes the floor with him in every passing stat whether basic or advanced. I’m not trynna hear it man.
Dallas was going for a three peat in 1994 and loss to the 49ers in the NFC championship when the niners acquired deion sanders
Pretty much broke the salary cap that year in 1994 49ers
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Bro, these prices out of control!
With these kinds of schedules and multiple games too close to each other the NFL is going to kill the Golden goose. Players should push back and demand a second bye week.
Overall schedule (opponents) isn't tough but the timing of the games Oh Boy!
Sick of these overpaid QB’s !
Facts the other positions should push back on that bs
So are the owners. Especially after what Cleveland did.
I’m sick of Overpaid underwhelming quarterbacks, some quarterbacks do deserves the money.
@@easyb622 only one quarter back deserves that type of money
Blame Cleveland for the Deshaun contract and blame the Giants for giving Daniel Jones 40m a year. The market is the market.
Would have taken that bold step to acquire Jackson 👈🏿but you know😂
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too forever❤
Brady probably took $10 mil a year less than he could have commanded from the Pats to get talent around him to win for 15 plus years. He won 6 Super Bowls in NE, and now he's getting $350 mil from Fox for calling games. That's called thinking ahead.
Mahomes just won back to back SB and he earn 110m in the process
@@matthewwilliams4168 Ok.
Brady was always way more about winning than money. But I'll bet his agent is much happier now than when Tom was playing.
And even after all those pay cuts the team still left him for dead. Y’all expect these players to lick the boots of their employers when you wouldn’t do the same.
@@timothy8484this is the comment. If a man with 6 rings can get cut so can you. Secure that bag ASAP. These teams aren’t loyal.
Chad chill out, you obviously don’t understand. Tua is not that guy
He thinks Zac Wilson is a good nfl QB he just can’t be object at all
Yes he is... Pay tua
He never judges players harsh
@@adamlynch6954 I agree. Pay him. Appropriately. As a top 15 qb, not a top 5
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too forever😊
The NFL is going to ruin the NFL
To many games to close together.
No one comes out unscathed
Watered down league in the end
The games less physical than it ever was and they get paid more than ever time to earn that money
You ain't gonna stop watching so who cares
There’ a reason you have a 53 man roster of , hopefully, elite and competent football players so that the standard o play is very high
@@josephlawrence9584 the games less physical, but everybody faster and stronger. Car wrecks ever snap, there are bound to be injuries. No natural grass also.
Re Tua. The dolphin should wait. The dolphins are negotiating with themselves. There is no market for Tua outside Miami. No one else wants to pay him that money so the dolphin shouldn’t.
Well said
With logic I 💯 agree but look what Kurt Cousins just got from ATL if Dolphins don't pay him some other team will.
It's almost like he's really only finished his second year. The first 2 years were with a coach that did not want him, actively worked against him and did nothing to work with your rookie qb to make him good. The third year, new coach, and his improvement was visible but he gets injured. Finally this past year he improves again, stays healthy and then the team collapses due to losing multiple star players on both sides. If I'm him, I'm saying sure I can always improve but I'm getting paid based on the history here because I don't trust the team to do the right things.
“YOU ARE NOT THAT GUY BUDDY” 😂😂😂
These 2 guys have special chemistry. Great podcast gentlemen.
Chris Grier is playing this smart ... he's really had 1 full healthy season and postseason and he still hasn't beaten a team of note .. no way I'm paying him $50 mil
He beat the bills and ravens didn’t he throw six tds that game. Smh
Burrow has been hurt more than Tua has
Pay him Baker money, and keep moving lol
@@dadarkknight36310burrow has been to the Super Bowl buddy
@@dadarkknight36310and those are regular season games
Tua ain't worth 50 because soon as Tyreek or Waddle leaves he's not going to be able to win with just him, he needs help. So he needs to pipe down and take that 30 a year so they can keep building around him.
Facts
You do know he has a winning record without Hill. He was winning with no names and a coach that did not like him
@@dadarkknight36310 won what? without Waddle and Hill he was struggling and on top of that he fails to stay healthy. you wanna give a injury proned concussion waiting to happen guy 50 million a year?
@@evillamar372not true you are just parroting talking points
@@adamlynch6954 parroting? you must be dreaming about Dolphins games because you darn sure wasn't watching them if you think Tua isn't injury prone and not worth 50 million lol
I understand what unc is saying coming from a players prospective.. But from a team prospective im not giving tua the money he wants because all he has achieved is stats.. And those stats came against mediocre teams.. And with weapons around him. Give him that money and they'll be mediocre for four to five years .
“If I’m not mistaken” as you’re reading from a script 😂
Tua is worth the door. That's it.
😂😂
Exactly lol
Exactly 😂😂😂
Hahahaha hahahaha god damn
Internet undefeated😂
Ocho knowing Saka and Odegaard is awesome
The truth of the matter is tua isn't on the level of the top 5 QB's in the nfl and it isn't even close he needs a team around him to even make it to the playoffs let alone do anything once he gets there tbh he isn't even top 10
Tua is obviously top ten stop it
@@adamlynch6954 no he isnt
“I can be over there playing with soccer 😂”
Trevor and them jags coming! We slept on every year but suprise surprise stay tuned
I have yet to see what made Trevor Lawrence a quote generational talent so far he has not lived up to the hype
Brady only won like 2 or 3 league mvps rodgers has more with 4
Captain America: "We're not exactly the "27 Yankees".
Chiefs: "Hold my beer"
KC schedule ain’t that bad and Tua needs to take the home town discount, if not I’ll let him walk. Without Hill and Waddle It will look ugly for us.
You see the Dolphins without Tua? It was ugly too.
@@christophercomitini8619 With or without I’ll rather have my playmakers 🤷🏾♂️
Yeah they are running out of things to talk about or getting paid to say this. Or it could be both.
10:56 KAT is that you😂😂
This is a gooooooood clip. Yessir. Everything perfectly said.
Chad needs to challenge Shannon more. He'll have a good point but then will back down when Shannon pushes back. Tua shouldn't be trying to set the market. He is who he is because of the talent around him.
Tua gotta prove himself man. I feel like with the talent we had we should have went further. A lot of that goes on tua. We have a team who can make plays but not a quarterback who is a play maker. That is the issue
If im tua im taking 45 a yr to keep some elite talent around me on both sides of the ball so i can get more contracts in the future
Tell it , UNC. Get what you can, while you can
Love Tua he a bama boy but Miami needs a Jalen hurts Kyler murray type of qb
Tua isn’t a statue, he can move
Tua better than both. GTFO
Wrong
Murray gets hurts as well and has a losing record….yall have to stop disrespecting a QB who turned one of the worst teams in the league into playoff contenders and was 6-3 and 7-5 before Hill was there with a defensive minded coach and no weapons
@@stephenpatrick2535RIGHT!
Gone be some realll interesting conversations that need to be had if Mahomes pulls off a 3peat
I really want it to happen, I would love to have that conversation!
Hes already a Hofer if that’s what the conversation is
A lot of teams gone have to readjust them future Quarterback contracts
GOAT is the conversation that need to be had
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too forever
I clicked on this video because the title states you will be talking about tua and his contract negotiations it takes y’all 8 minutes to start talking about it why title the vid on that ? Makes no sense
Shannon knowing Kroenke is a part owner in Arsenal is impressive for someone who doesn't really follow the sport
The hardest 😆
Detroits trying to win right now
Pop Warner??? man we only played on Saturdays on the west coast
Chad's shades are 🔥 📛
Joe burrow the Dolphins would be insane with Tyreek Hill
Tua has won more than Joe
Why you gotta throw my guy Chase under the bus?
@@adamlynch6954Burrow has 5playoff wins. Also Tua has played one more game than Burrow, but Burrow has 1,800 more yards and 20 more TDs all while being sacked 50 more times. 20 more TDs in one less game? That's a big difference
@@adamlynch6954 meaningless stat. ESPECIALLY when you look at what that actually means and why
@@natej84all those playoff wins and they both have 0 rings.
The dolphins will be in purgatory if they paid tua 50 million….
Much rather pay Tua the 50 than Daniel Jones a 40
@@oLiL7Cco.not giving either of them money
I just subscribed...don't wanna see Ocho cry
Tampa was 7-9 not 9-7 before brady got there lol they went 5-11 5-11 7-9 the 3 years before brady got there lol
Jameis was throwing as many picks as TDs
We not gonna buy Netflix there’s ways to watch games for free
Unc the arsenal pull was legit big up on that one 🔥🔥🔥
Cleveland really upset the pay scale for QB's when they gave Deshaun Watson that contract. And since then Deshaun hasn't done anything. Same thing for the Cardinals paying Kyler Murray all that money.
We as fans don't want the game to be streamed on different platforms
Excellent point by Unc!! What is the incentive??
Wtf are they talking about the chief are supposed to have the toughest schedule if they won the Super Bowl, but somehow, their schedule ranking is 15 or 16. The league gave the Raiders the number 7 hardest schedule make it make sense. The steelers Bengals and ravens have top 5 schedule is way worse than the chiefs. The 14 games that flat bad body swifty determined the 3peat has already been won. They could at least make it suspenseful 🚮🤡💩
Bengals and Ravens have hard schedules because they’re in a hard division which they play each other twice
Its not our fault we have to play useless teams twice.. So thats 6 games from the schedule toughness 🤷🏻♂️
Pay that man, more m’s than kirk for sure
Hands down tuas father in his ear telling him u was more successful then all of them except for superbowl. His pops making him sit out. His pops made him sit out in high school cause he didnt like the coach taking him out cause we was smashing but he wasnt getting the stats cause we was trying to protect him. It his pops in his ear. Zero doubt. Cause tua wouldnt do shit without the top notch receivers miami has
I didn’t click to hear about the Cheifs Unc.
At some point the dolphins will have to pay tua or make a big decision about a change at quarterback
I'm waiting for a team not to give a massive contract to a mediocre qb and instead go at it with a journeyman qb. I mean Nick Foles won a superbowl.
@michaelkapelis287: Dallas looks like they’re about to do that with Dak, I’m not trying to say Dak’s not good but they look like they don’t want to pay him as I’m not sure they think they can win a Super Bowl with him anymore,
Absolutely a mediocre qb id rather have playing badly but got him o a 1 or 2 year deal . As a pose to paying this average dude north of 40 plus million a year sounds criminal
@@kevinsterling1278his stats say otherwise
@@gr3415what stats? His 1 healthy season and leading the league in passing yards? Jamies Winston led the league in passing yards should he have gotten a major contract?
Its not the hardest schedule..stop saying that
Tua literally is flying back and forth from California because his Quarterback Coach is out there. He’s literally been throwing with the rookie WR’s. Searching for Clicks
Bruh.. Throwing with your receivers in the park or anywhere is not the same with doing it in OTAs or minicamp. The Coach needs to see the timing the rhythm. Even if Tua knows the system the team is not the same.
Pat was throwing with his receivers guess what he is in OTAs in addition.
Tua not being in ÔTA is not HUGE problem but it’s not nothing either. Nothing to do with "clicks"
What happened to them making the qb cap separate from the rest of the team . At the way contracts are increasing I think it only makes sense
Literally cheaper to go to every panthers home game, than it is to watch every game from home this season…… congrats NFL, you’ve officially passed greedy
Tua is still thawing out from the wild card round in KC.
Seems like Unc does all the research, Ocho is just going along for the ride to catch a check.
You can either pay the guy or draft another. Cowboys, Dolphins, Vikings, Falcons, Bucs, etc.. about 20-23 teams are in this dilemma each and every year. Quarterbacks are a scarce commodity that can shine like fool's gold if one is not careful.
Tua is NOT a "scarce commodity" you can use Gardener Minschew in Tuas spot and he would do BETTER
Long time Dolphins fan. Stephen Ross needs to be taken out of the picture. Other partners. Get his ass out of there.
Tua is not worth it
All of these nfl players deserve their money because win or lose the teams cashing in billions with a capital B!
Then whats the alternative considering the construction of a win now roster & coach?? Do you think a team will just trade you a top QB or something??
@@DionMorley that’s true everyone deserves their money but tua can barley throw 10 yards bro that’s why they always throw shot routes or read options that’s not going to win you games or a championship
Yes he is
@@Bagged_Hemi honestly they should trade tua for Joe million 3 from the patriots he is better fit also needs to start in his rookie season his arm is beautiful plus he can run the ball when he needs to
They can bring the running back salary down, so why can't they let quarterback salaries go down if they aren't worth it. Tua is not close to Burroughs, Mahomes, or Jackson, so why pay him that kind of money? Makes no sense.
Pau that man!! Tua time bb!! Love how they talk about all the teams on this show!!
get some ac in that joint unc damn
They missed what kick? The wi whii wide left kick. Unc
THE NFL IS RUINING THE NFL PRODUCT WITH SO MANY GAMES..MAJOR INJURIES IS HURTING THE PRODUCT AS SOME TEAMS STARTS LOOKING LIKE THE USFL..
If you want to win, it can't only be about resetting the market as a QB. The success that Brady had with those pay cuts led to his off-field success. Those superbowls helped sell his TB12 and garner that huge broadcast contract. Without the discounts, does he win as many superbowls and off-field success. Shannon needs to see both sides not just max contract stuff.
If some of that money was spent on offense, he likely would have won more.
I understand how it is being underappreciated. It's a miracle Tua is still playing. I understand for a fact not a single owner can play better than moi but it isn't about myself. Not taking any critiques towards the owners so hope they take no offense to this statement. We want to see the team flourish and stay successful. He can still play at a high level. We got chemistry to work on and games to win. We have to win when it's important so defense is just as important as our offense. Tua may be a fall guy to some but an inspiration to us fans. I hope he knows we still believe he can still play. Ya'll play well. Fins Up!🐬The offensive line P.S. can do well. Protect the passer we got this.
Tua is not worth the money we are so fucked if we give him a big contract. Our defense is already gutted
so wrong… A contract would actually help our cap. Pay Tua
@@blakeperales666it would help if you see a future with him I don’t believe he’s worth more then 30mil
Why do you people think that? Absolutely no reason for that to even happen
@@blakeperales666 explain how giving a mid QB a $50 mil per year contract would possibly “help” our cap
@@blakeperales666how do you figure? If you give him 50+ his cap hit is likely to stay around the same for this year. Next year Miami is already negative 11 million so any cap hit is just gonna be adding on to that and it’s likely gonna be 20+M of a cap hit. So how does that help the cap?
If you still have questions about a player after 4 seasons then you should just move on.
Tua has been there for the team parts , there's video of him there. He's also missed time because he's in Cali working with 3DQB, he's also missed strength and conditions timecbecause he's doing that with his own trainers and reportedly has trimmed down 15lbs so far. Nowhere misses stuff come this Monday when things start becoming mandatory then we got something to talk about but tight now it's nothing to do with his contract situation...
Dolphins telling you exactly what they think not signing him long term yet. Holding out won’t help QB with weak arm and no mobility to extend the play. Cousins or someone else could become available
This report is silly. For the first time in his career Tua has an offseason QB coach and has to be going from state to state in order to train there. That’s the most likely reason he’s missed some of the voluntary work so far. When he’s in Miami he’ll go to the training sessions and when he’s not and training with his QB coach then he’ll obviously not go to the voluntary things. I’m pretty sure he and the Dolphins have that understanding. This is a nothing report and ppl just love these stories because Tua’s name sells.
New coach and poor ending of last season. He should be out working with the team as much as possible. These aren't voluntary work outs they are OTA's
Two things can be true at once! It’s all part of the game they play. Doesn’t make him a bad this or that.
Sounds like what they did to my Steelers the COVID year
Joe burrow super bowl appearance 2 afc championship appearances
Josh allen 5 straight play off appearances 4 afc east division wins and 5 play off wins
Jared goff nfc championship appearance last year and a superbowl appearance
Comparing tua is crazy
houston plays on 6 days a week. they also play 3 games in 10 days
If Tua don't want to play I'll trade his ass
Putting usually national football games behind Netflix pay was is nasty work. But imma steam it illegally 😂
If they gonna have more games they need to have a 2nd bye week
1:20 3 games in 15 days?! Well no team, except every team, plays that many games, week-to-week, every season. 🤣
hell, they must not seen the Steelers schedule!!!😟
Fans want quality games, not more unwatchable games. Those Amazon Prime games were 99% trash
Stephen Ross is also an owner with a bright business mind and a bag lol
Tua is a good QB...32-19 record winning seasons every year he's played he has a better record as a starter than joe burrow Tua lead the NFL in passing made the pro bowl. Back to back playoffs first time Miami has done that in over 20 years last year Mia won 11 games most since 08... So what are we talking about?!
Exactly he's good but far from great. Pay him like he's great and you're screwed bc of the cap.
Yes but if TB12 doesn’t give those discounts they MAY not win that many super bowls and he may not be who he is today. It’s all a give and take, for the most part I agree, get all the money you can EXCEPT some QBs who will make way more on the backend if they are able to win
Their schedule is not as tough as some in terms of team toughness.
Ima call it now, with the way NFL going with streaming services the Super Bowl will be a PPV event in the future
Facts. SB being PPV is something I definitely can see.
No streaming service can pay the same amount as sponsors for the SB.
I don’t care what you have as an QB, you need good players around you.
Ocho the Cowboys is not trying to win🤣
Miami has to think long and hard about this more than anything else. Tua is an ok QB, the problem is he is in the division where cold weather are going to be impact the game and he shows too much of his deficiency in that. I'm not going to be surprised if Miami just go for rookie QB.
Dude this team was built around Tua all the way to the coach. We have okayed this game way too many times. Pay the man. The longer they wait the more they have to pay because you get the Goff deals. It will be even higher next year. Get this done and over with
Not a chance in hell. Never knew it was possible for an ok QB to lead the league in passing and be atop every major statistical QB category the last 2 seasons
@@gr3415Jamies Winston did it, would you have paid him?
Do your homework guys: the Chiefs schedule is ranked around 15th….regardless of them playing a game every day of the week except Tuesday 🤥
The Dolphins posted videos of Tua at camp throwing the ball and entering the building.