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  • Mike Florio and Chris Simms evaluate the chances of Tua Tagovailoa being fully engaged at the Dolphins' OTAs, after reportedly being absent for most of Miami's offseason work. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #MiamiDolphins
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  • @tay8259
    @tay8259 24 дні тому +17

    Bro Tua just reported to OTA's this morning. These Tua narratives are crazy😂

  • @toddaop9103
    @toddaop9103 24 дні тому +16

    And he’s showing up. But you got a 12 minute episode. Congrats. 🎊

  • @quintandf72
    @quintandf72 23 дні тому +9

    Goff playing behind an ELITE line. Of course he gonna stand in the pocket

    • @buddysteele7624
      @buddysteele7624 20 днів тому

      Pft cmon that’s a clown comment. Go watch the tape. Even when the line breaks down and he has defenders swarming all over him he stays in the pocket. Tua doesn’t do that are you kidding me?? After how many years in the league?? Still??

    • @tafaofamily4819
      @tafaofamily4819 16 днів тому

      One of the best O lines in the league and Penei Sewell is the top paid NFL Offensive lineman.

  • @sharonreel8678
    @sharonreel8678 24 дні тому +5

    "He's cutting off his nose to spite his face" - we must recognize Simms for getting this quoted correctly 😁

  • @tjayd1225
    @tjayd1225 23 дні тому +4

    Idk about the Tua vs goff take. They’re basically the same player except Tua is more injury prone. And weapon wise stop it, JG plays in a dome, has an elite wr, 2 great backs, the best o line, great OC, elite young tight end. When it’s cold and/or outside JG’s level dips as well

  • @APEXSOUTH12
    @APEXSOUTH12 24 дні тому +8

    These guys smoke hate tua crack.

    • @cag19549
      @cag19549 23 дні тому

      After they finished the hate Brady crack.

  • @lisapatterson6597
    @lisapatterson6597 24 дні тому +49

    If you guys knew what the hell you’re talking about you would know that Tua is in California with his QB coach and he said he will be at OTA’s. This has NOTHING to do with his contract. Quit making assumptions on something you don’t know

    • @birdflukfc
      @birdflukfc 24 дні тому +10

      Hey man you should start your own show so we can watch you you know more than the experts that's amazing lol he's not that good definitely not worth 40 mil no team would give him that 😂

    • @znLi7
      @znLi7 24 дні тому +8

      if you know what the hell you talkin about then youll know tua wants a new contract

    • @kreed4480
      @kreed4480 24 дні тому +3

      Tua not worth a Daniel Jones contract

    • @thejustinletters
      @thejustinletters 24 дні тому +1

      It's 100% about a contract, come on.

    • @znLi7
      @znLi7 24 дні тому +1

      @kreed4480 daniel jones is not worth a daniel jones contract lol

  • @coreyjohns8958
    @coreyjohns8958 24 дні тому +30

    Let's be honest, Goff has a top 5 offense to protect him and Tua is forced to have the quickest release since his O line is ranked 31st in pass block win rate. Sure he's not the best, but that line gets crushed against any half decent Defense

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому +6

      And the Dolphins are MUST-SEE Football which was NEVER THE CASE before Tua and McDaniel arrived : )

    • @dwaynewalker1186
      @dwaynewalker1186 24 дні тому +7

      Both those Fake Host HATE TUA and Miami Dolphins. Plus sims was a Garbage Back Up Ex-NFL quarterback 😂😂😂

    • @ryandodsonmusic
      @ryandodsonmusic 24 дні тому +4

      Joe Burrow almost won a Super Bowl with a terrible O-line

    • @tay8259
      @tay8259 24 дні тому

      Actually that year their oline was good, it's last year that their Oline fell off and the results speak for themselves ​@ryandodsonmusic

    • @ccrr8029
      @ccrr8029 24 дні тому +1

      Tuaneers are hilarious 😂

  • @sim396
    @sim396 24 дні тому +28

    Tua and Dak are just not that guy no matter how much people defend their stats

    • @Drewswaggy
      @Drewswaggy 24 дні тому +4

      the unfortunate truth......only thing is, dolphins fans are willing to take the sword for tua. Its something i dont understand.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому +1

      ​@@Drewswaggy And Cowboys fans aren't????,..
      And Dak's been Paid for YEARS,,
      What asinine comment~🤡💩~
      You don't UNDERSTAND alott,.I give you credit for That~lol

    • @srobeck77
      @srobeck77 24 дні тому

      @@matthewmatt5285 Dak= ass, wuts yur point?

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому +1

      ​@@srobeck77 Dak's getting PAID to be AZZ and so Is Kyler Murray and Deshaun Watson ect ect ect,..And Tua blows them away so he should be paid AT LEAST comparably,. He's 34-19 as a starter,..I GUARANTEE that NONE of the QB's I just mentioned have a winning % that is anywhere Near that good,..Any Questions?

    • @srobeck77
      @srobeck77 24 дні тому

      @@matthewmatt5285 deshuan is injured, not ass. Kylar has underperformed so thats anot bad signing and reason not to overpay subpar Tua. What else ya got?

  • @scott7621
    @scott7621 24 дні тому +16

    As a Miami fan, and a guy who wanted Tua drafted, let him play out his 5th year and let him prove he can win games against good teams in crunch time and in the playoffs. If he can't let him go. Any ACTUAL top 5 QB on this loaded offence would have had well over 5000 yards and over 50 TDs. Tua is holding this offence back.
    Edit, I posted this before I just heard about his Dolphins friend, lol. Informed fans think alike.

    • @gwappocapone6538
      @gwappocapone6538 24 дні тому +2

      Tua the best passer in the league. Most accurate, most efficient, fastest release.. stop talking

    • @salvadortrevino4504
      @salvadortrevino4504 24 дні тому

      ​@@gwappocapone6538also the most to be ko from a rush and that's the season but sure pay him makes sense.

    • @tay8259
      @tay8259 24 дні тому

      Bro Tua's backup almost beat the Bills in the playoffs of 22'. You're telling me that Tua can't do that. Baker Mayfield beat the Eagles last year. You're telling me Tua can't do that. Bro I get it if you don't like Tua as a Qb but don't buy into these narratives. It's laughable at this point. Remember when they said he can't throw deep, he's a dink and dunk Qb. It'll never work with Tyreek. Then oh he should retire because he had a bad year with concussions. Now it's he can't beat good teams.. Come on bro even back ups can beat good teams and do it every year. Again not saying Tua is all that, but to say he can't do what the average Qb does every year is a little over the top.

    • @ccrr8029
      @ccrr8029 24 дні тому +1

      @@gwappocapone6538dead last in the pro bowl accuracy competition 😂

    • @rzawistowski33
      @rzawistowski33 23 дні тому

      ​@@ccrr8029Because that matters, it's like being the lowest scorer of the nba all star game and saying a guy can't score

  • @JWD1992
    @JWD1992 23 дні тому +2

    Not for nothing, it's funny how suddenly Goff is elite. And I like Goff, but no one gave Goff that kind of respect before this past season. He was considered to be nothing but a product of McVay in LA, so much so that they had to trade him for Stafford.

  • @perryconnor697
    @perryconnor697 23 дні тому

    I agree with you. You hit the nail on the head.

  • @tb7547
    @tb7547 24 дні тому +4

    He was there today first thing 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @theliverpoolking2259
    @theliverpoolking2259 24 дні тому +24

    This is so fucking funny because after this dumbass video got uploaded Tua was reported to be in OTAs 😂😂😂😂. This is sweet to me man.

    • @scott7621
      @scott7621 24 дні тому +2

      What is really funny is reports are that Tua rejected the low ball offer the Dolphins gave him. Shows what the team thinks of him. They dont think he should be paid as a top 5 QB either. And they know a LOT more than you about him and his limitations in this offense. if not, he would already have it and this would all be moot. But it's not.

    • @lisapatterson6597
      @lisapatterson6597 24 дні тому +4

      @@scott7621 what’s even funnier is if you knew what you were talking about then you’d know that not 1 QB has ever signed their first offer in contract negotiations that is why it’s called Negotiations.

    • @toxickingchristian2645
      @toxickingchristian2645 24 дні тому +1

      @@scott7621he shouldn’t

    • @jacjr6193
      @jacjr6193 24 дні тому +1

      @@scott7621 I would be more concerned if he accepted the first offer. Because that would mean the dolphins aren’t doing their jobs at trying to get the best offer for the team’s cap situation and on the flip side Tua should try to get the most money he can

    • @buddysteele7624
      @buddysteele7624 20 днів тому +1

      So what?? Did they make a bet and say Tua isn’t gonna show up? This tiny little anecdote gives you that much pleasure? They’re still totally correct in stating that he’s not an elite QB and isn’t even in Goff’s league. There’s just no denying that idc if you’re the captain of Tuanon. It’s on the film totally obvious. It’s not even up for debate

  • @rzawistowski33
    @rzawistowski33 23 дні тому +4

    Hear me out Herbert get 52.5 mill and has the same negatives as tua minus health(cant beat the tough opponents, is the main one) but Tua possibly wanting 50 mill on a higher cap is crazy?

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 23 дні тому

      1000%~

    • @emmanuelcalderon1982
      @emmanuelcalderon1982 16 днів тому

      Herbert has had an incompetent coach for years. Staley lost the chargers games and as a “defensive” minded head coach his defense was trash. Not only that Herbert is in the same devision as the chiefs.

  • @followthedrip4455
    @followthedrip4455 24 дні тому +4

    Jared Goff took the rams to the super bowl in 2019 and just took the lions earlier this year to the nfc championship game!!! There is no comparison, Goff is way better and tua should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as Jared

  • @malbcrazy3697
    @malbcrazy3697 24 дні тому +3

    I 100% agree with everything said in this video.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      Watch More Football and you WOULDN'T,..
      Tua beat Goff and Herbert in their last meetings---->>>> Both on the ROAD,.
      And he completely Balled out with 841 yards, 6 TDs, and 1 Pick in thise games combined,.
      You're EMBARRASSING yourself 🤡~

    • @bradenallen5914
      @bradenallen5914 24 дні тому

      ​@matthewmatt5285 what about allen? He's only beat him twice and lost to him 12. 😅

    • @cag19549
      @cag19549 23 дні тому

      Ummm, Tua was at OTAs today.....😏

    • @malbcrazy3697
      @malbcrazy3697 23 дні тому

      @cag19549 Ummm, did I say he was "Not" at the OTA program.

  • @TuaTagovailoaTouchdowns
    @TuaTagovailoaTouchdowns 13 днів тому +1

    Simms is still arguing that Goff is better than Tua? Holy cow...

  • @jt2k264
    @jt2k264 23 дні тому +2

    They mad tua canceled on them a few year ago lol tua said fuck yall

  • @grantgrant6746
    @grantgrant6746 24 дні тому +5

    Give Tua a dome like Jared for 8/9 games a year and the numbers would look even better. Last time I saw Tua and the dolphins came back and beat the lions so 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому +1

      Yepp,.The conveniently only remember Tua's Losses~
      But never when he beat Jackson on the Road, or Herbert on the Road, or Goff on the Road 🤔~

    • @grantgrant6746
      @grantgrant6746 24 дні тому +1

      @@matthewmatt5285 facts. Or the 4th quarter comeback win against Kyler Murray. It’s easy to say don’t pay him that much money. The harder question to answer is where is the better replacement.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому +1

      ​@@grantgrant6746 There is NO replacement,.
      Heck,.. it can be Argued that Tyreek's career would Never been as good without Tua,.
      Tyreek had 2,500 yards with Mahomes his last 2 yrs,.
      He has had 3,500 yards with Tua,.
      But Mahomes is the better QB?
      The ONLY issue I have with Tua getting Paid is Guarantee $$$ because of his concussions,.
      But he should get Top 3 $$$ on a Yearly basis,.
      I think 5yrs/$250 mil with only $110 guaranteed should be the Price~
      As long as he Plays,.. he gets PAID,. --- >>> PERIOD~

    • @snukecartahena3182
      @snukecartahena3182 18 днів тому

      Tua will NEVER be an ELITE QB😅😅😅😅

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 18 днів тому

      @@snukecartahena3182 He'll just keep getting more Yards than EVERYONE,.lol`

  • @tbjr1127
    @tbjr1127 24 дні тому +3

    Goff doesn’t have to play the bills, chiefs, and ravens. Of course he does well in the weak NFC

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      Of course,.and they CONVENIENTLY FORGET that Tua BEAT Goff on the Road, totally BALLED OUT, and had to comeback from 14 points down because the defense never showed up,.
      386 yards, 3 TDS, Zero Picks and these guys just want to say it's "The System",..lol
      What a Clown Show this is~

    • @bradenallen5914
      @bradenallen5914 24 дні тому

      Uh... 49ers? Packers?

  • @matiasj4327
    @matiasj4327 24 дні тому +5

    im a dolphins fan, i agree with simms assessment of tua. and the dolphins fan mike quoted. hes not a top 5 qb. i dont think system qbs should get a big contract.

  • @Quay33
    @Quay33 23 дні тому

    CHRIS SIMMS SPEAKING FACTS 🎯

  • @c2jones
    @c2jones 21 день тому

    I'm with Simms all the way here. And the lifelong fan Mike said he got the text from.
    I've been following the Phins since their glory of the early 70s.

  • @bwcbiz
    @bwcbiz 16 днів тому

    This reinforces the argument I've made in the past: unless Tua thinks he _can't_ keep improving next season, it's best for both him and the Dolphins to wait a year before signing a new contract. Dolphins get more confidence in him as a long-term QB and if he performs, he can ask for even more money than he can get by signing this year.

  • @miguelmightydolphinsfan8232
    @miguelmightydolphinsfan8232 24 дні тому +1

    Tua said himself. He will be at the team practices.

  • @legend1849
    @legend1849 24 дні тому +2

    Only show that speaks truth..im a life long dolphins fan and I feel the same way.. im not giving tua 50 mill

    • @xBruskie
      @xBruskie 24 дні тому

      Hahahahahahaha

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      You mean the Truth about how Tua beat Goff on the ROAD and Herbert on the Road and jackson on the Road (where the defense didn't Show Up in any of those games) and only lost to the Chiefs in a fking Blizzard to end their season?
      That TRUTH?,..LOL
      Man you are One Crappy Dolphan ; (

    • @legend1849
      @legend1849 23 дні тому

      @matthewmatt5285 last 3 games of the season tua and the offense had 32 possessions 5 touchdowns 2 field goals 12 punts 1 for touchdown
      6 turnovers 5 int 1 fumbel 5 turnovers on downs
      1end half 1 end of game.. But the defense let them down... 🤔 out of 32 possessions they only capitalize 7 times they had 12 punts and don't let me search on how many were 3 and out..Im a dolphins fan since 73-74 you are a tua fan and a dolphins fan since 3 years ago..

  • @williamhvx
    @williamhvx 16 днів тому

    For first time I agree with u guys

  • @deboharris789
    @deboharris789 24 дні тому +4

    Thing is , it’s hard to find a QB . Tua have nothing but winning seasons with the dolphins even without Tyreek . We let go of Tua and now we gone have to find another QB which no telling how long that would take

    • @scott7621
      @scott7621 24 дні тому +1

      Our third string QB did better in the playoffs in Buffalo two years ago than Tua did last year. Tua is actually holding this offense back. Mahomes in the offence would shatter records, Tuas are average at best.

    • @deboharris789
      @deboharris789 24 дні тому

      @@scott7621 I think at least in decent weather we would’ve won that game like no cap . It was freezing cold 🥶

    • @someperson8151
      @someperson8151 24 дні тому

      Tua won't let a play develop, because he doesn't want the chance to sustain another concussion. He's become a liability to the offense. Left a lot of big plays on the field. A big, durable QB would have a field day in the Dolphin's offense...Dan Marino.

    • @JohnnyCdz
      @JohnnyCdz 24 дні тому

      @@scott7621 thats 1 game lol. That happens. Jake Browning was balling in place of Burrow till he came crashing down

    • @jrmiami4035
      @jrmiami4035 24 дні тому +1

      and he balled out vs the Jets without Tyreek... these ppl act like Tua is some bum

  • @matthewerspamer6274
    @matthewerspamer6274 23 дні тому

    Simms is right, Tua is like a Prius and Jared Goff is more like a Jeep Grand Cherokee or something like that.

  • @cap4life912
    @cap4life912 24 дні тому +2

    I LOVE THIS SHOW BRO🤙🏽❤️🐬🫡

  • @jordanjmdjmd74
    @jordanjmdjmd74 24 дні тому +2

    Chris was on another one here. Tua sucks, called Goff gangly, referred to Fields as an "adonis," lmao I love it

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      Dude might need to shut his clamps a bit more on the Tua HATE,.
      Tua has "Balled out" the last 2 yrs,..Period~

    • @bradenallen5914
      @bradenallen5914 24 дні тому

      ​@@matthewmatt5285 Tua isn't 50 mil good. Look at his playoff wins lmao

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      ​@@bradenallen5914 Look at Kyler Murrays playoff wins,.Dak Prescotts Playoff wins, Herberts playoff wins,.Hell,. Lacksons Playoff wins,..You look like a sweetheart so I'll stop there,.Go cook something Dear,.lol~

    • @bradenallen5914
      @bradenallen5914 24 дні тому

      @@matthewmatt5285 all mid besides Jackson and herb. Try again

    • @gsam_dad5540
      @gsam_dad5540 23 дні тому +2

      @@matthewmatt5285 Nice job putting 'Lackson' in there, tired of hearing people say that overrated two-time MVP 16 TDs a year DEI favourite is elite...

  • @User87_
    @User87_ 23 дні тому +1

    He deserves as much as Daniel Jones and that’s it

  • @stevefowler2112
    @stevefowler2112 23 дні тому

    I've watched the Dolphins very closely since Shula's first press conference...so I've seen lots of great QB play from our two HOF QB's and lots of middling QB play from our other QB's, but the only time we won SB's we had a young QB that reminds me of Tua except he had one of the best defenses and best OL's in league history. Give Tua a great D and great OL and I absolutely believe he can beat the good teams and win a couple SB's. The games we were losing to the good teams last year we were getting pushed around on both sides of the line and our D wasn't stopping anybody. having said all that I realize we lost our top players on both sides of the ball to injuries last year...but who knows if nay of them will ever comeback and stay healthy or not. But to my eyes our problem is not Tua, he is one of our best players and he plays QB, be thankful and .pay him!!!

  • @theshogunblaze3656
    @theshogunblaze3656 23 дні тому

    5:21 Homie was spitting straight FACTS! Im so tired of the Tua glazers
    (Im also a life long dolphins fan who lives near the stadium)

  • @TuaTagovailoaTouchdowns
    @TuaTagovailoaTouchdowns 13 днів тому +1

    "I'm a lifelong ______ and I have the counter-opinion" doesn't add authority to an opinion.

  • @user-sd7cf1db1t
    @user-sd7cf1db1t 21 день тому

    And Tuanon doesn’t hide behind unnamed sources

  • @BobaVolcano
    @BobaVolcano 22 дні тому

    Goff over Tua?!?!?! Simms is HIGH

  • @keepvibin100
    @keepvibin100 24 дні тому +1

    I hear no lies here! Go Fins! Tua go prove yourself

    • @cag19549
      @cag19549 23 дні тому

      I did. Tua was at OTAs so that's one.

  • @rzawistowski33
    @rzawistowski33 23 дні тому +1

    Im a Phins fan, i say something like 46-48 for 4-5 years half guaranteed. In 2 years hes gonna be like #12 in qb pay and less than 15% of cap, renegotiate in 3 years

  • @alf1380
    @alf1380 23 дні тому +1

    Only Simms can look at Goff and think he doesn't have MORE talent around him than Tua. OL does still matter, right?

  • @bobsburgers8885
    @bobsburgers8885 4 дні тому

    The main difference between Goff and Tua is that Goff played in front of a top 2 O-line and Miami had the 2nd most OL injuries in the league. And the cold weather narrative is BS; Waddle was out and Tyreek was playing hurt since that dirty play vs Tennessee. Tua's weapons were not there and the O-line were all backups.

  • @SkylineOwnz
    @SkylineOwnz 23 дні тому +1

    As someone who hates the Dolphins, I hope they lock in with him and overpay. I've seen what he is when he doesnt have freebie openings because of Tyreek Hill 😊

  • @Ballaholic17
    @Ballaholic17 23 дні тому

    Lifelong Dolphins fan here, I like Tua, he's the best qb we've had in 2 decades, but that isn't saying much with the qbs we've had since Marino. I think the problem is paying him right now, nobody's saying dump him, but we picked up his 5th year option after he had 3 concussions and never finished a full season. It was good to see him stay healthy last year, but that's 1 season so far. Now he wants to be paid like a top 5 qb? I don't think it's a wise decision. He's under contract this year, we can tag him next year if necessary, but so many things can go wrong this year, why lock ourselves into it right now? We have Waddle, Philips and maybe even Holland all due for new deals, this roster simply won't be as talented moving forward if he gets 50+ million and at least 2 of those other guys get paid too. This is a big year for Tua. Miami can be patient and wait until next off-season if they really want to know where his value lies. No need to overpay now. I want him to do well, we've been waiting a long time for a winner in Miami, but we can't even beat the Bills who have owned our division since Tua arrived. That's problem #1 before even getting into the other good teams we can't seem to beat either.

  • @jamesteele5726
    @jamesteele5726 24 дні тому +2

    Chrissy, you are such a size queen. You probably said the same thing about Russell until he won a Sb. You're better than Cowterd, stop sounding like him.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      Sewriously,.They conveniently FORGET that Tua beat Goff on the ROAD 2 yrs ago,.
      Just a bunch of girls drinking coffee and sewing Vikings and Giants sweaters~
      Simms actually thinks Danielle Jones is on the same level as Tua,..
      Just complete LUNACY~LOL

    • @someperson8151
      @someperson8151 24 дні тому

      People forget Tua's concussion history. One big hit and he might die of brain injury. He throws quick for a reason. He isn't willing to hold onto the ball like other QBs, because a hit could knock him out of football.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      @@someperson8151 Yeah,.That's why Miami should put Stipulations in Tua's contract and LOWER the Guarantee $$$,,.
      But the YEARLY $$$ should be on point( if not MORE) with At Least as much as Goff got~

  • @romain8390
    @romain8390 24 дні тому +4

    Dolphins must not be serious about winning a championship. Chris Grier has his entire career tied to a good, but not special, QB in a league where defense doesn’t win championships anymore, quarterbacks do. That, or they’ve already forgotten about his performance in Kansas City. It’s the AFC. Apart from the fact that Miami in general doesn’t win playoff games on the road in general through their history. It’s Baltimore, Denver, Buffalo, New York, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, New England. All cold weather, outdoor teams. Tua is 0-7 when the weather gets cold, and that’s even if his health allows him to play. Miami made a big mistake not drafting a quarterback to replace him.

    • @scott7621
      @scott7621 24 дні тому +1

      The mistake was drafting Tua instead of Herbert.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      @@scott7621 Because Herbert has Won what?~

    • @romain8390
      @romain8390 24 дні тому

      @@matthewmatt5285 probably need to ask that question again when it’s all set and done… But I’ll say this, no GM would hesitate to pay Justin Herbert the way they are hesitating to pay Tua Tagovailoa. additionally, to down Justin Herbert based on win percentage is to say that coaching doesn’t matter because we all saw what the chargers were the minute he went down… 63-21 and didn’t win a single game or come close.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      ​@@romain8390 I just can't get past the constant "Deer in the Headlights" look on that guys face every time I see him,..

    • @romain8390
      @romain8390 24 дні тому

      @@matthewmatt5285 that might just be you and minority of others. Pretty clear to see that 9/10 times when the chargers lose it’s not because Justin Herbert played like trash… But the Dolphins were competitive in a playoff game and have been competitive without Tua Tagovailoa under Mike McDaniel.

  • @oaklandtraphouse
    @oaklandtraphouse 24 дні тому +1

    Joe burrow stats 97 td 37 ints 14,000 yds
    Tua 81 tds 37 ints 12,000 yds
    Maybe worth 40 right now

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому +1

      And Tua didn't get early opportunities because Flores was trying to stifle his career~

  • @dolphinzrwj1
    @dolphinzrwj1 22 дні тому

    Goff has won playoff games.

  • @billycheatham2860
    @billycheatham2860 24 дні тому

    I can say I'm a day 1 dolphins fan and it doesn't mean squat. Who cares what that person thinks. I doubt Tua or miami does

  • @steveosuch5486
    @steveosuch5486 14 днів тому

    If the Dolphins kept Ryan Fitzpatrick They would have been in the Superbowl it was a huge mistake taking the ball away from Fitz.

  • @robbg3224
    @robbg3224 23 дні тому

    This coming from a former qb who belonged to the janitorial class of qbs. Way to hate on Tua, Simms.

  • @anthonyvalle41
    @anthonyvalle41 23 дні тому

    Dolphins fan here, should have took Fields as a #2 QB who will actually run the ball. Fields made a beast out of DJ Moore and Kmet. With rushing being an essential component to any offence- Tua is not the guy to support the speed that Miami has to offer.

  • @timcarr71
    @timcarr71 24 дні тому +4

    The mishandling of Tua early on with the fins wasn't his fault,Tua is qb # 7 to #9,pay him accordingly

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      The ONLY issue I have with Tua is the guaranteed $$$ because of his concussion History,.
      OTHERWISE he should be getting Top 3 $$$ Yearly because he's been Balling Out for 2 yrs straight~

  • @aramisdoucett9090
    @aramisdoucett9090 23 дні тому

    They don’t want to drop Tua because then they would be admitting Brian Flores was right

  • @kingg__pin9339
    @kingg__pin9339 23 дні тому

    While i agree Goff is better(slightly) the same weather concerns apply. Hes trash when he’s not in a dome. Let’s just be fair with the criticism

  • @therealchrissimms6482
    @therealchrissimms6482 23 дні тому

    When I was a player Tua couldnt hold my jock strap

  • @johnruiz8556
    @johnruiz8556 22 дні тому

    Sims is still salty from Tua skipping out on that interview at radio row

  • @Prophetseye
    @Prophetseye 23 дні тому

    Give the Dolphins an Oline and see the difference.

  • @lordbudlett6520
    @lordbudlett6520 24 дні тому +1

    If you KNOW more than likely your path to the Super Bowl is going to go through a cold weather team late in the playoffs… why would you pay Tua anything?

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      Tua lost to the Chiefs in a Blizzard on the Road,..
      Allen lost to the Chiefs in better weather last yr at HOME 🙄🤔🤭🤡💩~

    • @bradenallen5914
      @bradenallen5914 24 дні тому

      ​@@matthewmatt5285At least allen can beat .500 teams 😂

    • @bradenallen5914
      @bradenallen5914 24 дні тому

      ​@@matthewmatt5285yall also choked the division 😂

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      @@bradenallen5914 And we Lost to the 2 Best Teams in the NFL,.Who is your Garbage team losing to Sweetheart?,.The Browns?,..lol~

  • @michaelhelms2378
    @michaelhelms2378 24 дні тому +3

    Tua is NOT worth the money. Plain and simple. Make him play out his final year or let him walk. He hasn't proven he can win big games. Actually the opposite. He folds in big moments.

  • @steveadiska6834
    @steveadiska6834 24 дні тому +1

    Geoff has been around a lot longer, too

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      Yeah,.and Tua beat Goff on the road 2 years ago .
      They just CONVENIENTLY seem to pretend that never happened,.
      The Dolphins were NEVER relevant before Tua got there,..
      Now they have 5 PrimeTime games before the Flex and are Must-See Football,.
      These guys are complete CLOWNS~

    • @steveadiska6834
      @steveadiska6834 24 дні тому

      @@matthewmatt5285 he needs to win a playoff game. And do what he did in Alabama, carry the team against a tough opponent

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      ​@@steveadiska6834 They Lost to the Super Bowl champs in a Playoff game that was one of the coldest in History,. And Miami was completely Decimated with injuries last yr,..I DO KNOW that Tua beat Goff and Herbert on the Road the last time he played them so lets not Conveniently FORGET what GOOD that Tua had DONE,. It's pretty asinine to think the guy is not a BALLER~

    • @bradenallen5914
      @bradenallen5914 24 дні тому

      ​@@matthewmatt5285Tua was 0-6 against teams over .500
      Enough said

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      @@bradenallen5914So he didn't beat Goff on the Road, Herbert on the Road, and Jackson on the Road the last 2 yrs?
      You must be a Kyler Murray fan,..lol
      Another CLOWN,..
      Tua is 34-19 as a Starter,..Find 5 Qbs that have a better record Sweetheart~

  • @lastpme
    @lastpme 24 дні тому

    Chris is right, he is a good player...not a great player. I think it would be insane to pay Tua a crazy contract because he has the right coach and the GM has given him a great supporting cast. Miami is trying to prevent making the same mistake the Giants made with Jones. Similar to Seattle trading Wilson to the the Broncos. Seattle knew what Wilson was and knew he wanted a new contract, but were able to move on from him by trading him to the Broncos.

  • @user-ej2mb8ww8r
    @user-ej2mb8ww8r 24 дні тому +1

    So you lied about OTA’s and he only missed two voluntary work outs. Clown show Mike

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому +1

      And they NEVER mention that Tua beat Gff on the road 2 yrs ago either,.Total Clown Show~

  • @mykofreder1682
    @mykofreder1682 24 дні тому +1

    Tua is Goff with potential injury issues the next 5 years, if he goes 5 years without a concussion or injury it resets things. I can't win with a B QB, so put your job on the line with Darnold and see how that works. He is a $30M QB till he wins in the playoffs and the end of season, they finished the season 1-6 this looks like Jimmy G. They should have been proactive, they could have brought in Fields or Howell, though I suspect these guys, with more information, will be available next year and you save a draft pick.

    • @bourbontrail565
      @bourbontrail565 24 дні тому

      When he gets the concussion, it’s coming. Let him play this season out. If he doesn’t play, who would want him.

    • @tay8259
      @tay8259 24 дні тому +1

      Pfff 😂Tua destroyed Goff last year in Detroit when the Lions were starting to take off. Simms also mentioned that Tua is not at Goffs level... Buhahahah😂 "sigh" I get it he isn't at Mahomes or Allen's level but GOFF!!!. Bro I'm crying 🤣😂

  • @APEXSOUTH12
    @APEXSOUTH12 24 дні тому +1

    Herbert is top 5 tho right cheif.

  • @tay8259
    @tay8259 24 дні тому +3

    I don't get it. Are people afraid Tua is going to be another Watson situation? Tua has talent, works hard, and has only shown progress to improve his team. Like the Dolphins didn’t get worse since they drafted him...Yeah, the Dolphins will probably overpay a bit for him, but all teams overpay when its time to pay star players. It's the way the market works in the NFL, especially for QBs. The only positions that's under paid are running backs now...

  • @JohnClarkW
    @JohnClarkW 24 дні тому

    At some point Tua needs to go win a game the Dolphins are losing, instead of the Dolphins having to win a game Tua is losing. He had some horrible games down the stretch, with only one game over 300 yards after November 1, which was against the Raiders. He didn't throw for 200 yards in either game against KC, and the Bills game to close out the season.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому +1

      Like when the Dolphins were down 14 points on the Road to Goff last yr and Tua had a Monster game and got the Win?,.
      Or this yr when the Chargers were at 100% and the Dolphins were down the whole game on the Road and Tua put up mind-boggling numbers and threw the game winning TD?,.
      Got ya ; )
      lol~

    • @JohnClarkW
      @JohnClarkW 23 дні тому

      @@matthewmatt5285 You are excited that Tua played well against a 5 win Chargers team. The best team the Chargers beat was the Vikings ( with Cousins ). The Dolphins defense won that Lions game, by pitching a shutout in the second half. You had to reach back two years to find two games, and both were pathetic examples of Tua winning a tough game. The Cowboys were the only playoff team he beat last year. Ryan Fitzpatrick has more great games since Tua was signed than Tua.

  • @phin4life503
    @phin4life503 23 дні тому

    And the last two seasons to Tagovailoa has been in a top five and every quarterback statistical category and you wanna know what the real differences is if you know football, you know this is the most important thing in a quarterback development. The first time Tua had the same offense since high school. And this will be year three and he will continue to get better.. and you’re supposed to be the professionals 🗑️

  • @traydevon
    @traydevon 23 дні тому

    Tua doesn’t deserve what he wants. Point blank. Let the chips fall where they may.

  • @bradmartin3316
    @bradmartin3316 23 дні тому

    If u want straight up Tua news watch phinside with Reason..

  • @srobeck77
    @srobeck77 24 дні тому

    Tua talks are mildly entertaining, but Cousins/Penix is the real meat and potatoes Id like to see more discussions on

  • @larryparker3028
    @larryparker3028 22 дні тому

    What is OTA? 😅

  • @jorgefernandez5231
    @jorgefernandez5231 23 дні тому

    Simms you could not hold his jock strap

  • @innerspace56
    @innerspace56 23 дні тому

    Dude what in the HELL is Mike Florio doing out here these days? If I was Tua I would hear crap like this and say "Jared Goff and his success are where I'd hope to be, but as of now there is no comparison". This is what men do when they look at themselves with a critical, honest eye. Not sure if Florio understands what men are?

  • @jikan-tabi-1888
    @jikan-tabi-1888 24 дні тому +1

    Purdy > Goff > Love > ... > Tua

  • @user-qb5vt5hg7n
    @user-qb5vt5hg7n 23 дні тому

    Mahomes is making 45 mil a year. Burrow is making 55, Tua aint close to either of them. Decent qb though

  • @szn1580
    @szn1580 24 дні тому +6

    The Tua narratives are so repetitive bro lmao

    • @srobeck77
      @srobeck77 24 дні тому

      just started yesterday, I think you outsmarted your own sensitive feelings here today

    • @szn1580
      @szn1580 23 дні тому

      @@srobeck77are you slow buddy boy? The same Tua narratives have been going on for years. Keep up kid

    • @srobeck77
      @srobeck77 23 дні тому +1

      @@szn1580 listen child, cut the hero worship. U need to grow up and grow and pair

  • @JuanOrtiz-pc6fs
    @JuanOrtiz-pc6fs 24 дні тому +1

    Man what has Justin Herbert done they bring him up all the time

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      He got his azz beat by Tua last yr,.
      But they NEVER talk about THAT,.
      These guys are total 🤡's~

    • @bradenallen5914
      @bradenallen5914 24 дні тому

      ​@matthewmatt5285 Herbert has had 5000 yard season. He's great just the chargers fail him.
      Allen owns yall

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      @@bradenallen5914 Tua BEAT Herbert last yr and doubled his yards and tripled his Tds in that game,.
      Ohh yeah..and it was ON THE ROAD,..Please Pay ATTENTION,..This shyte is BORING dear~

  • @wickedrs_716
    @wickedrs_716 24 дні тому +2

    Please please let Miami sign tua to a long term deal!!! - Bills Mafia!

  • @user-eb8iu2qp5s
    @user-eb8iu2qp5s 22 дні тому

    Crazy how people try to manage other peoples money. 😂

  • @ikeemadams7840
    @ikeemadams7840 23 дні тому

    Wow. Simms is ridiculous.

  • @yankthis1989
    @yankthis1989 24 дні тому

    I can’t imagine getting 70+ million dollars direct deposited into my account man 😂

  • @JJ.HotCakes
    @JJ.HotCakes 24 дні тому +1

    He was literally at OTAs today and had been there just not to all of them

  • @jorgefernandez5231
    @jorgefernandez5231 23 дні тому

    U were so good 😊 number two until you were cut

  • @dylanmartino7975
    @dylanmartino7975 18 днів тому

    I’m a giants fan and could honestly say tua is better than Daniel jones they mite be because of the weapons and coach around him but whatever the reason is he’s better than Daniel jones.
    I don’t think tua or Daniel jones is worth 30ML per year but the market is the market
    Daniel jones is making 40ML
    Tua should be making 45ML

  • @eddieorfield
    @eddieorfield 24 дні тому +1

    I've grown over the years to almost hate these guys. All they do is whine and try to stir up shit for everyone.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      And simms thinks Danielle Jones is a good Qb,..
      Proof we're living in The matrix 🙄~

  • @cambridgesqaureboy
    @cambridgesqaureboy 24 дні тому +1

    What has Justin Herbert won?

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      Nothing,.He did LOSE to Tua at Home though,.lol
      These guys are total CLOWNS~

    • @srobeck77
      @srobeck77 24 дні тому

      he on a lot worse team and had an injury too

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      ​@@srobeck77 lol. A Herbert apologist around every corner,.Tua lost to Mahomes in the Playoffs in a Blizzard,.Hebert in the playoffs lost to Trevor Lawrence with a 20 pt halftime lead in FLORIDA,..lol,..There's a 🤡 around every corner apparently as well,.lol~

  • @rojoloco
    @rojoloco 23 дні тому

    I would argue the anti-Tua crowd is actual the much louder of the two crowds. The difference is they also tend to not have a clue what they're talking about when it comes to actual football. They're the unsettled Karens who want to blame someone and can't find the manager.

  • @Blazeduran33
    @Blazeduran33 24 дні тому

    I really don’t understand the whole tuanon thing

  • @codyfox2876
    @codyfox2876 24 дні тому +2

    Mike's fake fan. No real Dolfan wants to jeopardize our chance at winning it all over the next few years by playing hardball with Tua. We back him because he is a winner. We've had 20 years of losers before him.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 23 дні тому

      Tua has more yards, more Tds than ALL QBS and only has less wins in the past 3 yrs than Mahomes,.FACTS~

    • @codyfox2876
      @codyfox2876 23 дні тому +2

      @@matthewmatt5285 yeah. Notice how these fake fans, like Florio's, either hide behind anonymity or never say what their other option is? Maybe he'd be happy if we brought back Jacoby Brisset or Ryan Tannehill and had another losing season. Or maybe get Ryan Fitzpatrick back and have two awesome games and lose the rest.
      They never have a plan. Mike Florio and Chris Simps aren't presenting a plan either. Maybe they'd love it if the Dolphins traded for their favorite little boy Zach Wilson and watch him fumble and trip all over himself.
      Why do they never present their option? Because they have no good idea. Their only goal is to hate on Tua. In this case, they just want him to be paid less so they can feel justified in their hate. If they had a better option than Tua they would've already presented it.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 23 дні тому +1

      ​@@codyfox2876 Yeppp,..They hate also giving Tua credit for the games he has Won and the mammoth comebacks he's had,.I haven't looked,. but I'd be surprised if Tua doesn't have 5 of the last 10 best passing performances in the NFL,.But You NEVER hear them talk about those because they can't beat the Chiefs?,.
      Y'konw?,.The Team that has been to the last 3 superbowls and won 2 of them,..
      It's just PREOPSTEROUS,.The Dolphins are NOT getting rid of Tua in ANY Sane Universe,. PERIOD~

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 23 дні тому

      @@codyfox2876 Yeppp,..They hate also giving Tua credit for the games he has Won and the mammoth comebacks he's had,.
      I haven't looked,. but I'd be surprised if Tua doesn't have 5 of the last 10 best passing performances in the NFL,.
      But You NEVER hear them talk about those because they can't beat the Chiefs?,.
      Y'know?,. The Team that has been to the last 3 superbowls and won 2 of them,..
      It's just PREOPSTEROUS,. The Dolphins are NOT getting rid of Tua in ANY Sane Universe,. PERIOD~

  • @kingroyalty9621
    @kingroyalty9621 24 дні тому

    Goff can’t…they both the same thing …look at Goff numbers outside of a dome !

  • @TheAnthony55221
    @TheAnthony55221 24 дні тому

    I get it’s the market, but I wondering when will team realize guys like Tua are not worth QB money and maybe the weapons are what makes him? It’s like Goff, I rooted for the guy when he got traded but is he actually worth 50 mill? No he has so many weapons just like Tua.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      Tua beat Goff on the Road and had 386 yards, 3 TDS, and Zero picks in that game,.
      If that's a "system" or "weapons" or some other garbage I'll TAKE IT,.
      Ohh,.. and I thought Miami had the Worst O-Line in the League and the Lions have one of the Best? 🙄🤔.
      Another dim-witted 🤡 comment~

    • @TheAnthony55221
      @TheAnthony55221 23 дні тому

      @@matthewmatt5285 basing a contract of of one game. Who made it further though 🤔 and who has more playoffs wins when it counts ? Miami should sign him and be in cap trouble like they were this year.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 23 дні тому

      ​@@TheAnthony55221 ANY TEAM that has already PAID their Top 10 Qb has Cap Trouble,..You ALMOST sound like you have an answer if the Dolphins decide NOT to pay Tua,.BUT YOU DON'T,.Please sit down and BE QUIET 🤡,.There's serious football fans here that don't Live in The Matrix~lol

    • @TheAnthony55221
      @TheAnthony55221 23 дні тому

      @@matthewmatt5285 Miami hasn't signed their QB to the top 10 contract and are in cap trouble aren't winning when it counts with a stacked team and now gotta cut talent to sign a mid QB that can't throw when it's not sunny out and relying on his WR to get all the YAC or simple one read throws. You clearly don't know anything so i'll stop here.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 23 дні тому

      @@TheAnthony55221 Stop talking about Justin Herbert man ; )

  • @scott7621
    @scott7621 24 дні тому +4

    The REAL problem is Chris Grier. The guy has either been scouting or drafting for Miami for 20+ years. Coincidentally, we havent won a playoff game since he joined our organization. Actually, I guess if you really think about it, Ross not firing him for the rebuild was the worst mistake. Clueless owner = clueless franchise....

    • @brandonwilliams6769
      @brandonwilliams6769 24 дні тому

      You are crazy. You don't really know football

    • @jameswesterman9283
      @jameswesterman9283 24 дні тому +1

      ​@@brandonwilliams6769what did he say that wasn't true?

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      Luckily,.. we now have Mike McDaniel to hold Grier's hand and we had the best Draft of the Grier era considering we didn't have many picks~

    • @scott7621
      @scott7621 23 дні тому

      @@brandonwilliams6769 crazy people shout out nonsense and dont back up their words or explain themselves.

    • @scott7621
      @scott7621 23 дні тому

      @@matthewmatt5285 that remains to be seen. This draft is super boom or bust and there wasnt one starter drafted, all back ups.

  • @joseramos4320
    @joseramos4320 24 дні тому

    Tua and Dak should make less than Mayfield he's won 2 playoff games

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 23 дні тому

      Tua does make Less but has thrown for many more yards and Tds the last 2 yrs than Mayfield~

  • @user-op7cz2wv3n
    @user-op7cz2wv3n 23 дні тому

    As a true life long Phins fan...the REAL problem is the tool bag that owns the team

  • @zacharyharkness8780
    @zacharyharkness8780 22 дні тому

    A MAN GLOATING ABOUT ANOTHER MAN

  • @steveosuch5486
    @steveosuch5486 14 днів тому

    Thank you TUA needs to go not the QB for Dolphins future. Need better!

  • @shadycarry
    @shadycarry 23 дні тому

    "its amazing that in 6 year its doubled" yeah because Mahomes topped the market by over 10 million when he signed, but you never bring that up when you talk about it. Just whining

  • @Ptrixle
    @Ptrixle 24 дні тому +2

    The bias against Tua is so weird to me, Tua finishes top 5 in all passing categories and somehow he isn't worth re-signing.

    • @matthewmatt5285
      @matthewmatt5285 24 дні тому

      And guys like Kylr Murray and Deshaun Watson who haven't won Half as many gaes as Tua has the last 3 yrs get a Free Pass,.
      It's idiotic,.. the narrative,.But then again these same people luvv giving their tax $$$ to Israel so I'm NOT SURPRISED~

  • @martinef1963
    @martinef1963 23 дні тому

    You two contradict each other , it’s pathetic. Out of the 32 teams in the NFL how many quarterbacks play within a system that plays to their strength? Maybe 32? Out of the 32 QBs, how many play outside the system when needed, maybe 4-5? Outside of the 4-5, where would you rank Tua? Inside 10? In my opinion, if you pay Dak, Jalen, Cousins, Russel, Deshawn why can’t you pay Tua? What do they have in common? If you don’t know you don’t know - pay him cause he puts asses in seats.