For everyone asking about the co-witness with the Hellcat. I carry it with the C&H Precision plate and it just barely co-witnesses with the top of the sights. If you want a slightly better co-witness you can shave the pegs and go without a plate but that will void your guns warranty. I also had a very bad time with C&H customer service so your mileage may vary if you go that route.
I've been using a couple of EPS Carry MRS Green optics for over 6 months, and they've been awesome! I love the Auto Brightness feature because it still gives you control over the "Minimum Brightness" level (Green version only). All told I've got over 5000 rounds through 1 and over 2000 on the other.
I measured at the base of the optic and didn't include the battery tray (I may have not made that clear in the video). Including the battery tray you're absolutely right; Holosun lists width at 1.05". Thanks for watching!
Literally no one modifies the slide to co witness. If I was to get at least the 507 not sure about the EPS. I would absolutely modify the slide looks to be super easy. Nice review
I'm getting a Hellcat here in a couple weeks and getting a Red Dot optic for the first time ever and I'm looking at the holosuns, and I've come close to make up my mind to get to 507 k, but in order to get any Co Witness with the iron sights it seems I have to get a thinner adapter plate like the C&H, but I was wondering if you get co-witness with the iron sights having this eps and the plate that comes with it on the hellcat?
You need eps closed transmitter . Your 407 will get lint dust dirt humidity not recommended for carry but just the range quit being cheap and spend a few more beans
407K is 200 bucks can’t beat it don’t fall for the rumors about emitters getting blocked. I carry mine 12 hours a day concealed pretty much never clean and have had no problems.
Can I mount this with a footprint on my standard Glock 19 by taking away the rear sight? Is there a link u can assist me for the footprint for G19 rear sight mounting. Thanks 🙏
I get a bloom with the 507 2 MOA, I also have the 407 6 MOA . I also have a stigmatism and find that the green 6 moa is much better. What do you think is better for your stig, is the size of the moa or the color or just Holosun?
i bought one, gun started jamming, ejector is not ejecting brass ammo shell at the range. Took it for inspection and they said that the screw was too long and was in the way of the extractor. Screw needs to be shaved but it’s the screw that came with it.. what do i do?
I just ordered this in 2 MOA green ater i sent back the 507k. had some serious starburst effect going on. also none of the screws it came with fit for a Kimber Mako R7
Even with the plate I get a very very low cotwitness (basically just the very tops of the sights visible in the window) with the factory Hellcat sights. I prefer an absolute cowitness, but it's good enough for now. Thanks for watching!
Default setting is 10 mins, but it can be adjusted all the way up to 12 hours. I'd double check your setting first, and if it really doesn't ever shut off I'd contact Holosun about it. Thanks for watching!
Between the Hellcat and the Shield PC? Personally the Shield fits my hand better, and the texturing is more aggressive (which I like). The PC trigger is notably better than the Hellcat trigger, too. Thanks for watching!
On the CZ P-10 slide, the EPS Carry matches the factory optic cut in width/profile, while the EPS full size has some overhang. Don't know about Sigs first hand, but I'd wager the EPS full size might have some overhang on the P320. Definitely on the P365. EPS Carry may have overhang on P365, it's been a while since I had one in hand at a store. EPS Carry may be closer in width to the P320 slide's cut.
This the exact reason I am in the comments! I have that slide on my shield plus but no optics cut. Talked to a few people and they want to more the read sight to the front 🤔 it’s already a short pistol I don’t want to bring the sights any closer together.
Same exact experience recently, once I adjusted it to the right enough (a shit tone of clicks later) the outer 32 moa circle appeared very slightly warped and canted, probably wouldn't have affected the usefulness of it but my ocd caused me to return it and try to purchase it again at a later date hoping that I luck out with a good one
Price is good seeing that the 407k is $295 (EPS $329) for the 2 MOA which is absolute best. That 6 MOA looks like a markers red dot on a white board. I own 3 of these sites already and 2 MOA is worth the extra cash.
Not sure why Holosun uses their own footprint, especially since it's so close to the RMSc footprint. At least the plate is included though. Thanks for watching!
I'm so frustrated! I would have bought this if it were available when I bought my 507k in March. I carry several hours a day and I am constantly cleaning the lens and worried about lint or dust covering the emitter.
I have even worse news for you lol...theres an MRS version of the EPS Carry has that same multiple reticle system the 507k does, so it's essentially the fully enclosed version of the 507k. The good news is I've been carrying the 407k daily for a few years now (usually about 8-12 hours a day) and can confirm that dust, lint, sweat, etc can almost fully coat the inside of the lens/ all over the emitter itself and the optic will still function enough to get a good sight picture/dot on your target, especially if you shoot with both eyes open....your brain will superimpose that dot on your target even if it's obscured. That being said the EPS is going to be taking over as my dedicated carry optic because it's nice to not have to gid at the inside of the lens/emitter area to clean it 😂 Thanks for watching!
I am frustrated as well but only because i purchased the Holosun 407c sold as a compact micro dot. That did not fit on my kimber Mako R7 so i bought the 507k multi reticle. The dot looked like a diamond not uniform at all. Now i have purchased the EPS carry and i have sent the 407c and 507k back to amazon under the return policy. The EPS carry is not much more than the 507k and that enclosed emitter gives some piece of mind.
For the Hellcat install I used the plate that Holosun includes in the box with the EPS Carry. I had to open up the rear lug holes a bit to get it to sit flat, but it mounts up solid. I don't have a shot of the plate by itself, but you can see it in the unboxing video: ua-cam.com/video/8L_PJpv2388/v-deo.html Thanks for watching!
@realpracticaltactical when you filed the rear holes, did you do the entire diameter of the holes or just enough of each contact point to fit the 1/4 circle pegs into the holes?
For everyone asking about the co-witness with the Hellcat. I carry it with the C&H Precision plate and it just barely co-witnesses with the top of the sights. If you want a slightly better co-witness you can shave the pegs and go without a plate but that will void your guns warranty.
I also had a very bad time with C&H customer service so your mileage may vary if you go that route.
I was waiting for how it co-witnessed with the hellcat..Can you update please.
Picked mine up a week ago but am still waiting for my custom low cut plate before putting it on my Beretta 92X Compact. Can’t wait ! Nice review. 👍🏼
Thanks for watching!
@@realpracticaltactical you are welcome and subscribed now. 👍🏼
You talk fast. I like it. Subbed.
I've been using a couple of EPS Carry MRS Green optics for over 6 months, and they've been awesome! I love the Auto Brightness feature because it still gives you control over the "Minimum Brightness" level (Green version only). All told I've got over 5000 rounds through 1 and over 2000 on the other.
Auto brightness?! I need this
Having it be an enclosed emitter is invaluable if you pocket carry.
wish you couldve shown the cowitness angle
Just to be clear it's 1.05 Inches wide, not a lot but every little bit is good to be taken into consideration with a carry gun.
I measured at the base of the optic and didn't include the battery tray (I may have not made that clear in the video). Including the battery tray you're absolutely right; Holosun lists width at 1.05". Thanks for watching!
I my opinion, the aspherical glass of the EPS Carry alone makes it worth the difference in price over the 407K/507K.
Can you explain what you mean? I have a 407k x2 GR on my Canik trying to decide if I want another one of those or the EPS for my sig.
Yeah, please explain.
@francostacy7675 Simply put, aspherical lens of the EPS series eliminates the edge distortion that the 407k/507k has.
Is it better than SCS Carry?
Literally no one modifies the slide to co witness. If I was to get at least the 507 not sure about the EPS. I would absolutely modify the slide looks to be super easy. Nice review
I'm getting a Hellcat here in a couple weeks and getting a Red Dot optic for the first time ever and I'm looking at the holosuns, and I've come close to make up my mind to get to 507 k, but in order to get any Co Witness with the iron sights it seems I have to get a thinner adapter plate like the C&H, but I was wondering if you get co-witness with the iron sights having this eps and the plate that comes with it on the hellcat?
Nice review. I just got the 507k for $233 and i am happy with it. It replaced the shitty Zero Elite that came with my P365X.
GREAT deal on the 507k. Thanks for watching!
Great price , where did you get it ?
@@propblast82nd bass pro.
You need eps closed transmitter . Your 407 will get lint dust dirt humidity not recommended for carry but just the range quit being cheap and spend a few more beans
@@propblast82nd o got it at Bass pro with a couple discounts and sale price.
“Wait until it goes on sale”
I felt that… ok I’ll just get the 407k 😩😂 for now
🤣 it's a solid choice, you'll love it I promise. Thanks for watching!
407K is 200 bucks can’t beat it don’t fall for the rumors about emitters getting blocked. I carry mine 12 hours a day concealed pretty much never clean and have had no problems.
@@jeffmurphy9987 I'm in construction and it matters.
Can I mount this with a footprint on my standard Glock 19 by taking away the rear sight? Is there a link u can assist me for the footprint for G19 rear sight mounting. Thanks 🙏
I get a bloom with the 507 2 MOA, I also have the 407 6 MOA . I also have a stigmatism and find that the green 6 moa is much better. What do you think is better for your stig, is the size of the moa or the color or just Holosun?
I pick one up in the last few weeks, it was over $400 but is the 1 moa green with circle. Hopefully I will enjoy it more than the romeo pro 1.
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1 moa is lie.
Great review!!!
i bought one, gun started jamming, ejector is not ejecting brass ammo shell at the range. Took it for inspection and they said that the screw was too long and was in the way of the extractor. Screw needs to be shaved but it’s the screw that came with it.. what do i do?
Dremel tool, file etc
shave down the screw?
Thanks for informative video.
I just ordered this in 2 MOA green ater i sent back the 507k. had some serious starburst effect going on. also none of the screws it came with fit for a Kimber Mako R7
Great video
What about the co-witness with Hellcat?
Even with the plate I get a very very low cotwitness (basically just the very tops of the sights visible in the window) with the factory Hellcat sights. I prefer an absolute cowitness, but it's good enough for now. Thanks for watching!
I have question if you can help me boss how long does the imiter take to turn off mine seems to stay on
Default setting is 10 mins, but it can be adjusted all the way up to 12 hours. I'd double check your setting first, and if it really doesn't ever shut off I'd contact Holosun about it. Thanks for watching!
Which do you like more? The shield plus pc or the reflex? I’m kinda torn between the two
Between the Hellcat and the Shield PC? Personally the Shield fits my hand better, and the texturing is more aggressive (which I like). The PC trigger is notably better than the Hellcat trigger, too. Thanks for watching!
So, the EPS vs the EPS Carry might be a Sig 320 and a Sig 365? Would it fit in std SIG slide cuts?
On the CZ P-10 slide, the EPS Carry matches the factory optic cut in width/profile, while the EPS full size has some overhang. Don't know about Sigs first hand, but I'd wager the EPS full size might have some overhang on the P320. Definitely on the P365.
EPS Carry may have overhang on P365, it's been a while since I had one in hand at a store. EPS Carry may be closer in width to the P320 slide's cut.
Where did you get the slide optic cut/milled for performance center m&p 2.0? Love the pistol but no optic cut from box. Thanks
Wager machine works. Good work and affordable
This the exact reason I am in the comments! I have that slide on my shield plus but no optics cut. Talked to a few people and they want to more the read sight to the front 🤔 it’s already a short pistol I don’t want to bring the sights any closer together.
I got mine out the box and was all the way down left in the corner. Zero was terrible
Same exact experience recently, once I adjusted it to the right enough (a shit tone of clicks later) the outer 32 moa circle appeared very slightly warped and canted, probably wouldn't have affected the usefulness of it but my ocd caused me to return it and try to purchase it again at a later date hoping that I luck out with a good one
Price is good seeing that the 407k is $295 (EPS $329) for the 2 MOA which is absolute best. That 6 MOA looks like a markers red dot on a white board. I own 3 of these sites already and 2 MOA is worth the extra cash.
407K is $203.00 at any Gunshop not sure where you are getting your pricing.
Does the right screws come with it
Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Great review!! Thank you brother
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching!
$100 for the enclosed sight is a great deal 2x the glass and solar panel. Surprised you would take ammo over an enclosed sight.
$100 increase is for the EPS carry without the solar, with the solar is definitely more than $100 increase from the 407k.
@@bill12690solar is a gimmick, same as the MRS!
I'll take ammo and the associated practice that comes with the ammo almost every time. Thanks for watching!
Wish they would offer it with a Shield footprint.
Not sure why Holosun uses their own footprint, especially since it's so close to the RMSc footprint. At least the plate is included though. Thanks for watching!
Apparently they have to use a modified footprint to make it fully waterproof
@andrewdang9062 not true. 407k and 507k are the same footprint and they are not fully water proof.
dpp mount works
Imagine me I bought the MRS in green 😅😂
I'm so frustrated! I would have bought this if it were available when I bought my 507k in March. I carry several hours a day and I am constantly cleaning the lens and worried about lint or dust covering the emitter.
I have even worse news for you lol...theres an MRS version of the EPS Carry has that same multiple reticle system the 507k does, so it's essentially the fully enclosed version of the 507k.
The good news is I've been carrying the 407k daily for a few years now (usually about 8-12 hours a day) and can confirm that dust, lint, sweat, etc can almost fully coat the inside of the lens/ all over the emitter itself and the optic will still function enough to get a good sight picture/dot on your target, especially if you shoot with both eyes open....your brain will superimpose that dot on your target even if it's obscured.
That being said the EPS is going to be taking over as my dedicated carry optic because it's nice to not have to gid at the inside of the lens/emitter area to clean it 😂
Thanks for watching!
Buy a 5$ air duster
I am frustrated as well but only because i purchased the Holosun 407c sold as a compact micro dot. That did not fit on my kimber Mako R7 so i bought the 507k multi reticle. The dot looked like a diamond not uniform at all. Now i have purchased the EPS carry and i have sent the 407c and 507k back to amazon under the return policy. The EPS carry is not much more than the 507k and that enclosed emitter gives some piece of mind.
Optic plate info?
For the Hellcat install I used the plate that Holosun includes in the box with the EPS Carry. I had to open up the rear lug holes a bit to get it to sit flat, but it mounts up solid. I don't have a shot of the plate by itself, but you can see it in the unboxing video: ua-cam.com/video/8L_PJpv2388/v-deo.html
Thanks for watching!
@realpracticaltactical when you filed the rear holes, did you do the entire diameter of the holes or just enough of each contact point to fit the 1/4 circle pegs into the holes?
Thank you.
Thanks for watching!