The reason Kobe isn't brought up as much is because he's a carbon copy of MJ, but not as good. They're almost the exact same player. LeBron is different. He's a pass-first 6'9" 260lb small forward that also averages over 27ppg for his career. Kobe is MJ-lite. That's not a knock at Kobe, he's the 2nd best SG of all-time barring James Harden continuing the onslaught he's on for another 5-7 years.
💯💯💯💯💯 which is a Lot of the reason I can't stand Letrash king of getting swept twice James. Because he passive aggressively Disses Kobe when talking about the greats of all time especially when mentioning Jordan you have to say Kobe too because they are the same player It's Jordan then Kobe you can't act like u as gr3at as Jordan but act like Kobe wasn't that same Killer. Bron ain't even close to norther one of them. He needs to stop putting himself in that talk.
no one cares if kobe or lebron is top 5. its the impact they put in the game that touches people. I could hardly give a shit about MJ or KD shooting long Js over Lebron.
Notice how Vince Carter kept bringing up KOBE BRYANT. The media will try to brainwash you and fake fans let it happen. Kobe is mentioned with the GREATEST and could be !
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p Lebron James also has more turnovers in the post season then anyother player in NBA history. Also lets not forget how many bad games Lebron had in the finals. An 8 point game with 5 turnovers against the Mavericks and averaged 17 ppg that series and lost. Lebron James has had 8 games worse in the finals the Michael Jordans worse game where Jordan scored 22 points in the finals. Lebron James has only been the best scorer in the league 1 time in 16 years. For someone who is supposed to be more dominant then the other players in his era he has only been the best on offense once and was never the best on defense because he has never won Defensive Player of the Year. Jordan had 10 scoring titles and also won Defensive Player of the Year. Lebron James is great in his era but he is nowhere close to being as good as MJ on offense or defense. He only averages 1 more assist and 2 more rebounds per game then MJ come on and he had to join Wade and Bosh in Miami to win 2 rings. The 3-6 mafia always trying to spread this false narative that Lebron James has somehow passed Magic, Kobe, Shaq, Kareem, Bird, Wilt all the way up to Michael Jordan as being the greatest ever.
Notice how Kobe always get mentioned by his peers when they talk about the greatest ever but its the media and other people who try to minimize what he was a player bottom line he is a top 3 player of all time period
I was thinking the same thing. Kobe ALWAYS gets the respect of the NBA players. Only the media and LeBron fans try to shit on his greatness. Im a Knicks fan but after he dropped 60 on our head in MSG i had to stop hating on that man.
C D Kobe with very little couldn’t get out for the first round he didn’t make his teammates better. Lebron has done more with worse players on his team.
DrMario221 Kobe is a top 10 player of all-time without a doubt, but he's nowhere near top 5 or even in the Goat convo. He's not even the best laker player
Ben MonaLisa Simmons Dood this is a movie Kobe couldn't tie lebron's shoes facts lebron has never been 2nd best on his team kobe Bryant haven't carried a team in his life it's Kareem not kobe learn your history kobe is not even the greatest Laker to ever play I'm tired of the disrespect of the true greats.
Buzz B but you literally just said Kobe couldn’t pass LeBron because Lebron was never the second best on his team. Yet Kareem was the second best on his team once Magic took over. Being the second best on your team is not an issue. Kobe was only second best for a few years, yet still dropped 25+ ppg for the majority of the playoffs. You contradicted yourself by saying Kareem is the greatest Laker and discrediting Kobe by saying Kobe wasn’t even the best on his team when the same thing can be said for Kareem and Magic
I Am The Night Bro Kobe is the Definition of the 2000s Era. From 2000-2010 Kobe averaged: 28.5ppg, 5.2ast, 5.8rebs, on 45.6%FG, 34.2% 3pt, 84.3%FT shooting, 1.7stl a game. Won 5 Chips, played in 7 western conference finals (out of 10years)and never lost. 7 for 10! Where in the West 5 to 8 teams has 50+ wins a year. He should have 3MVP’s 2002-2003 this Man Average 30PPG 7rebs, and 6AST on 45% fg, 38% 3pt fg, 84% ft, and 2.2 STL a game! First team All-NBA and First team defense All-NBA... oh and played all 82 games! At Only 24! If that ain’t the definition of robbed idk what is. Oh and Shaq only played 65games, they have to give him that MVP! Plus in 2006-2007 47wins (which is good enough for an MVP, that’s 3 shy of a 50 win season) with bums (IN THE WEST)! Averaging 31.6 ppg, 5.4ast, 5.7 rebs, on 46% fg, 86% ft, All-NBA first team, first team defense All-NBA, and scoring 81 points in a game (The greatest scoring performance in the shot clock Era). David Stern and the NBA dislike Kobe because of the rape charge. Didn’t was him to be the face of the NBA. Now from 2000-2010 Kobe: 1999-00 All-NBA Defensive (1st team) 2000-01 All-NBA Defensive (2nd team) 2001-02 All-NBA Defensive (2nd team) 2002-03 All-NBA Defensive (1st team) 2003-04 All-NBA Defensive (1st team) 2005-06 All-NBA Defensive (1st team) 2006-07 All-NBA Defensive (1st team) 2007-08 All-NBA Defensive (1st team) 2008-09 All-NBA Defensive (1st team) 2009-10 All-NBA Defensive (1st team) 2010-11 All-NBA Defensive (1st team) Can you tell me how many All-NBA defensive team Shaq made for his Career? Only 3 and they all are 2nd Team (1999-2000, 2000-2001, 2002-2003) but he so called Dominated the 2000s Era? No Kobe also defeated Tim Duncan 5-2 times during the period in the playoffs! Also from 2007-2014 Duncan was missing. He won 3 chips in 2000s (1st ring in 1999) vs. Kobe 5. There is no question 2000s Era has Kobe writing all over. Remember Lebron didn’t start Win until 2012. & Shaq himself called Kobe “the best in player in the NBA/world” in 2001. ua-cam.com/video/02NeajL75e8/v-deo.html Now please tell me what’s you definition of Dominating an Era?
duncan only went to the finals two years during that time compare to Kobe seven and Duncan played in the system from his rookie year all the way till he retired. 8 confrence finals compare to Duncan two so who really dominated the 2000's
So you get basketball more than people who get paid 6-8 figures to talk basketball? Get over yourself. These people are mostly Ivy League graduates and former players. They know what they talking about.
Just goes to show the perspective of guys who actually played the game and played against the Kobes and Lebrons vs casual fans who think they know it all. Fans who will call VC a hater just for speaking facts. Multiple players have said Kobe is better than Lebron and it's not a hate thing. Real recognizes real
@@cp3417 Steph curry is just a crazy .... He doesn't know about real players. He is amazing player. Probably the best shooter ever but his top 5 is trash. Lebron is not a top 5 anyway
While he’s definitely not in the GOAT discussion, Vince Carter deserves a lot more respect than he’s given. How many players get drafted to a 16 win team and single handedly take them to the playoffs the next 2 years averaging 26ppg and 28ppg? His second best scorer in Toronto was Antonio Davis lol. And they say LeBron has no help. It’s sad that knee and quad injury robbed him of his elite athleticism in 2002. The media ate him alive for not living up to expectations as the next MJ. But he’s still here after they said he was done and a waste of talent. Still respected at 41 and the reason a lot of fans and current players started getting interested in basketball. He also changed his game to a role player better than any superstar. Respect.
Vc. Admitted after he left Toronto that his last year he didn’t work hard and didn’t try hard. He lost alot of respect from fans, he was also very lazy and was never a good defender, carter only had 2 or 3 good years. The rest of his career was dissapointing, he’s just one of those guys that didn’t want to put in the work, one of those guys looking for that paycheck.
Adam Jamison disappointing? Guess you missed out on an amazing career. 25k points, 10 straight years of averaging more than 20ppg, scoring over 26ppg in the playoffs during his prime years...more than 30 game winning shots (top 3 in NBA history) and possibly the most exciting athlete in the world during his first 5-7 years. Your just repeating the same baseless accusations...he never said he didn’t play hard he was responding to a question about working out in the summer and coach John Thompson actually apologized to him for that interview because of the way ESPN edited it. But if I was VC I would request a trade too with that incompetent organization he had to deal with in Toronto. he was dealing with injuries and trying to get his game back on track between 2002-2004...Toronto gave up on him. One example: he wanted Zach Randolph in the 2001 draft. He wanted Andre Iguodala in the 2004 draft...the Raptors drafted Michael Bradley and Rafeal Arujo lol
He didn’t become what we thought he would become. This guy was supposed to be a top 5 player of all time, but lazyness and lack of defense prevented that
SaadJ15 Dwyane Wade also deserves more respect he did the same or even better and was considered better the best in his draft class at one point while being robbed of an MVP
If jordan didnt retire twice in his prime he would be the all time leading NBA scorer in history and probably have 8 rings. dude never lost a finals. clutch as hell. the GOAT. lebron has had the highest payroll and surrounded by 2 other all stars for a decade. overated.
Does Tristan really deserve $86 Million? Hell, does K. Love deserve $100 M's?? You just equated payroll and production. That's like saying "oh he was an All-Star", but the dudes produce below average postseason time. None of that shit matters tbh unless you're just looking to fake nitpick.
vince is great- but he could have been the greatest if he wanted it. when he entered the league- jordan even said- he anointed kobe too soon- before he d seen vince. most talented athlete I've seen in the nba
Hunnid Rounds mmmm.... naaaaaah. MJ has him beat in some averages still and he did it as a smaller guy in a big dominated game. Lebron near powers through anyone on the opposing team with ease his whole career. Sorry, to me, the driver that takes a sports car and can weave its way through obstacles is more impressive than a monster truck driver who just piles his way through. But that's me.
Bruh Kobe is probably the most overrated player ever. I grew to respect his game but he ended his career with the worst FG % EVER. Most missed shots is history and he rarely made game winners. A lot of you guys are living on false memories
Kelvin Wilkes He shot 45% as a mainly perimeter shooting guard. He was plenty efficient, was clutch, a leader, and could take over games.. 45% is literally 1 less make out of 20 than a 50% shooter. Theres been very few 50% perimeter shooting guards ever. MJ was one. Your math sucks and your Bball IQ does too. Let the players speak. Their opinion is worth alot more. Kobe is a top 10 all time player.
Jordan played only 11 Full seasons with Chicago, Lebron is in his 15th year and still chasing the Goat. Think on that for a minute and shut the hell up bron fans.
he chasing cause media won't let Jordan him he just trying to be a great player both all time great ok LeBron the 2nd beat to ever touch a ball still great
Clifford Glover He is chasing beacuse he took the easy out to Miami and back to Kyrie's cavs but Jordan stayed and built a dynasty. He could have ran to Bird's Celtics or Magic's Lakers and won 10 rings.
Bron plays bully ball cause he can’t post With finesse like mj or Kobe there’s a reason why he had to put some weight on. Lebron is just like Julius randle only difference is bron has a higher IQ and on PEDs but both have a not so good shot that play bully ball. Oh and randle don’t stat pad
It's 1) MJ 2) Bron right now for me. Never did I think Bron was going to end up #2 for me and he's still playing at the highest level and is STILL the best in the world. Even though I don't see Bron catching and surpassing MJ, I won't rule him out cuz the dude is still got a lot more left in him so why not.
For me LBJ is nmbr 1, it's not about the rings though (and I won't debate ur opinion either) but I think it called preference, cause they (MJ LBJ) played in two different era, and I'm not sure if LBJ can be a great player if he was in 80-90 and vice versa. If they are an animal, then I'm gonna put it like, u put a camel in Eskimo and put a polar bear on Egypt, u guys will see the 'different'.
optimusman88 mj was already falling off, well see when LeBron is in his later years and still putting up mvp numbers who the 'goat' is, even though it's just a matter of opinion.
LeBron will never be better than MJ or Kobe, but like Vince Carter said, he is a special player that we've never seen before. Skill wise, LeBron isnt better than Byrd either, but his size and presence on defense gives him the edge. LeBron is no doubt one of the greats, but it is sad that because the media has to fill their airwaves with controversial topics to get ratings that they have to constantly have this futile debate. MJ and Kobe are better than LeBron and always will be even if LeBron wins another championship or racks up more MVPs. Just talk about how special LeBron is, and call it a day. Show less
I’m 25 Born in 92 I DONT remember seeing MJ play, but these clips on this video of MJ got me wishing I did see him play. That fade away footwork on this first clips was clean as fuck!!! MJ Footwork look like it was something special
Having that “killer instinct” is about individuality. Meaning you are going to do what it takes to win by yourself. Back then that could work but it just can’t work in this day in age. With all the 3pt shooting and ball movement and switching etc you just can’t win it all without another consistent superstar with you.
Derrick Woo It means you do what NEEDS to be done to win. Whether it's making the play, playing the defense, or making the shot. Competitive mindset is about more than "selfish play." MJ wasn't a stupid bull of a player like Westbrook is currently, he was smart enough to know how to win, it's the way he wanted it and killed for it that made him different.
Derrick Woo you don't need 2 superstars just another consistent player who leaves it all on the floor. Just look at what boston was able to accomplish in this years playoffs with no superstar.
I didn't expect Vince to be so great as an analyst. This was gorgeous. I don't know WHY, but I always assumed he was just extremely athletic but not a high bball IQ. Boy was I wrong. Ty for changing my perspective Vince. Looking forward to more. This new breed of analyst are killing it. Vince, S Jackson, Perk. A+
If LeBron STOP taking steroids, he would even be playing, but no matter how many roids you tske, it's NOT gonna give you HEART or a KILLER instinct, he's just WAAAAY to soft !!! Just a pumped up Baby.
Are they going to ask everyone the same question? That's the problem for ESPN. With 3 days between finals games, they literally have nothing to talk about. Why not discuss draft prospects or potential moves that teams can make during the off season?
In 10 years time it will be someone else compared to Jordan, and LeBron will be forgotten about in the conversation of the best ever. Kobe's been out of the game for just 3 years and quickly pushed to the side. Michael's head and shoulders above all of them, and everyone knows this. Only Wilt and maybe Kareem are worthy comparisons......Michael is from Mars and LeBron is from Venus.
The fact that Lebron carried *this* team into the finals is honestly more impressive than any title MJ ever won. Idc if Lebron is 3-100 in the finals, my eyes don’t lie, he’s the GOAT EDIT: 1. MJ facing better competition is a complete myth. He never beat Bird’s Celtics and beat the Bad Boy Pistons after they got old and already won 2. If you’re saying that Reggie Miller’s Pacers team or Patrick Ewing and John Stark’s Knicks team were that “tougher competition”, you’re delusional 2. On every level of basketball, the greatest player isn’t always on the best team. MJ was blessed to not only have great basketball abilities, but also great teammates and arguably one of the greatest coaches this game has ever had. Lebron has lacked both of those for a majority of his career and still has 3 rings
Truth is if I put any superstar on LeBron team that he won rings with EVERY SUPERSTAR WOULD WIN PLAYING WITH D WADE CHRIS BOSH RAY ALLEN KYRIE IRVING KEVIN LOVE
legion24100 MJs team was a championship contender without him. They won 55 games after he left. LeBrons teams have never made the playoffs after he left. MJ had a way better team.
Vince Carter has so much respect for Kobe, I love it. The disrespect Kobe has been getting is unreal. Make this yet another nba player that knows not to disrespect Kobe.
don't comment on anything sports. All the greats put Kobe right behind Jordan. Only idiots like yourself downplay Kobe's greatest. AI, VC, T-Mac, Duncan, K Garnett, G. Payton, K Durant, S. Nash, D.Wade etc have all said Kobe was that dude. It s not all about stats.
BEST TOUGH SHOTS MAKER IN HISTORY. BEST 1 ON 1 PLAYER IN HISTORY. kobe won 2 without shaq shaq won 1 without kobe. Kobe was robbed of mvps. there is your argumetn you idiot
Kangman02 that’s not “all the greats” lol Oscar, Zeke, Scottie and others have Bron over Kobe. however, Kobe fans need to feel validated so they literally make a list of all the players who say Kobe so that they can feel validated. foh with that nonsense.
We can debate about who's GOAT forever... one thing for sure, the greatest DUNKER of all time is VINCE CARTER.
Jason Chan *in the nba
Fax
Luke Mulford in the world ever NO DEBATE WHATSOEVER
I dont know about that.
Nobody does better windmills than Vince Carter.
Thank you Vince. Someone actually showed respect to Kobe in the GOAT conversation.
j 314 yea because kobe smoked him . Duh
The reason Kobe isn't brought up as much is because he's a carbon copy of MJ, but not as good. They're almost the exact same player. LeBron is different. He's a pass-first 6'9" 260lb small forward that also averages over 27ppg for his career. Kobe is MJ-lite. That's not a knock at Kobe, he's the 2nd best SG of all-time barring James Harden continuing the onslaught he's on for another 5-7 years.
but kobe>lbj...vc much respect
💯💯💯💯💯 which is a Lot of the reason I can't stand Letrash king of getting swept twice James. Because he passive aggressively Disses Kobe when talking about the greats of all time especially when mentioning Jordan you have to say Kobe too because they are the same player It's Jordan then Kobe you can't act like u as gr3at as Jordan but act like Kobe wasn't that same Killer. Bron ain't even close to norther one of them. He needs to stop putting himself in that talk.
Vince Carter was a huge reason why I started loving basketball
JustTooLit did you book a reservation at Espace tomorrow?
Same
JustTooLit. Same !
U got that right! Also Jason Kidd
Same. He’s my all time favorite player.
I love how Vince gives Kobe his credit
That’s what I’m talking about,,,
ALL NBA PLAYERS FEEL THAT WAY
have to, i'm not even a MJ fan much. Kobe and Bron always going to be consider the top for me.
no one cares if kobe or lebron is top 5. its the impact they put in the game that touches people. I could hardly give a shit about MJ or KD shooting long Js over Lebron.
Carl Tompkins why does everyone forget Shaq,he was the best player on 3 of Kobe's championship teams
The players ALWAYS put Kobe close to the top of the list, unlike the media
Notice how Vince Carter kept bringing up KOBE BRYANT. The media will try to brainwash you and fake fans let it happen.
Kobe is mentioned with the GREATEST and could be !
J you sound stupid. Goodbye lol
J you’re a dumb bitch. Fuck You talking about? My post wasn’t about what the fuck yo lame ass is saying 😂😂😂
There is and will Forever be One and Only GOAT, and that is HIS Airness, Michael Jordan... Kobe and the Rests are SHEEPS though.. hehe
Echoes Of Mars MoonDragon sure
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p Lebron James also has more turnovers in the post season then anyother player in NBA history. Also lets not forget how many bad games Lebron had in the finals. An 8 point game with 5 turnovers against the Mavericks and averaged 17 ppg that series and lost. Lebron James has had 8 games worse in the finals the Michael Jordans worse game where Jordan scored 22 points in the finals. Lebron James has only been the best scorer in the league 1 time in 16 years. For someone who is supposed to be more dominant then the other players in his era he has only been the best on offense once and was never the best on defense because he has never won Defensive Player of the Year. Jordan had 10 scoring titles and also won Defensive Player of the Year. Lebron James is great in his era but he is nowhere close to being as good as MJ on offense or defense. He only averages 1 more assist and 2 more rebounds per game then MJ come on and he had to join Wade and Bosh in Miami to win 2 rings. The 3-6 mafia always trying to spread this false narative that Lebron James has somehow passed Magic, Kobe, Shaq, Kareem, Bird, Wilt all the way up to Michael Jordan as being the greatest ever.
Notice how Kobe always get mentioned by his peers when they talk about the greatest ever but its the media and other people who try to minimize what he was a player bottom line he is a top 3 player of all time period
Rashan Swint exactly! The media be trying to push kobe to the side
DFlowetry Music all the time shit crazy
I was thinking the same thing. Kobe ALWAYS gets the respect of the NBA players. Only the media and LeBron fans try to shit on his greatness. Im a Knicks fan but after he dropped 60 on our head in MSG i had to stop hating on that man.
C D lol facts tho
C D Kobe with very little couldn’t get out for the first round he didn’t make his teammates better. Lebron has done more with worse players on his team.
The media keeps telling me that Kobe is not in the conversation but his peers always put him in. Like Jason terry said he doesn't get enough respect.
DrMario221 Kobe is a top 10 player of all-time without a doubt, but he's nowhere near top 5 or even in the Goat convo. He's not even the best laker player
Wipexherxdry Who u nigga? Think I'll go with the legends on this one.
Wipexherxdry AGAIN WHO ARE YOU BITCH? It's not validation if it's FACTS, while your boy Dirk ain't even top 10 GTFOH...
Wipexherxdry nowhere near top 5 wtf are u kidding me ?
Joshua Haynes MJ even thinks so kiddo, who the fuck are you?
"I'm okay with y'all booin'... I been booed before."
Nice, VC hahaha. Always loved him tho.
So in Vince Carter's own words, he basically said LeBron hasn't passed Kobe yet.
Ben MonaLisa Simmons and Vince left the door open by saying hey Labron is still playing...let's revisit later. Fair enough.
almost all players say kobe lol, only media says lebron
Ben MonaLisa Simmons Dood this is a movie Kobe couldn't tie lebron's shoes facts lebron has never been 2nd best on his team kobe Bryant haven't carried a team in his life it's Kareem not kobe learn your history kobe is not even the greatest Laker to ever play I'm tired of the disrespect of the true greats.
Amar'e Stoudemire dude stop it. He top 5 easily
Buzz B but you literally just said Kobe couldn’t pass LeBron because Lebron was never the second best on his team. Yet Kareem was the second best on his team once Magic took over. Being the second best on your team is not an issue. Kobe was only second best for a few years, yet still dropped 25+ ppg for the majority of the playoffs. You contradicted yourself by saying Kareem is the greatest Laker and discrediting Kobe by saying Kobe wasn’t even the best on his team when the same thing can be said for Kareem and Magic
kobe used to guard the best player always and put 100 percent on the court and has 5 rings...hats off to vc
Vince Carter would make a great NBA analyst
MJ - 1990's
KB - 2000's
LJ - 2010's
Kobe ain't ruled no 2000s
I Am The Night
Bro Kobe is the Definition of the 2000s Era.
From 2000-2010
Kobe averaged: 28.5ppg, 5.2ast, 5.8rebs, on 45.6%FG, 34.2% 3pt, 84.3%FT shooting, 1.7stl a game. Won 5 Chips, played in 7 western conference finals (out of 10years)and never lost. 7 for 10!
Where in the West 5 to 8 teams has 50+ wins a year.
He should have 3MVP’s
2002-2003 this Man Average 30PPG 7rebs, and 6AST on 45% fg, 38% 3pt fg, 84% ft, and 2.2 STL a game! First team All-NBA and First team defense All-NBA... oh and played all 82 games! At Only 24!
If that ain’t the definition of robbed idk what is.
Oh and Shaq only played 65games, they have to give him that MVP!
Plus in 2006-2007 47wins (which is good enough for an MVP, that’s 3 shy of a 50 win season) with bums (IN THE WEST)!
Averaging 31.6 ppg, 5.4ast, 5.7 rebs, on 46% fg, 86% ft, All-NBA first team, first team defense All-NBA, and scoring 81 points in a game (The greatest scoring performance in the shot clock Era). David Stern and the NBA dislike Kobe because of the rape charge. Didn’t was him to be the face of the NBA.
Now from 2000-2010 Kobe:
1999-00 All-NBA Defensive (1st team)
2000-01 All-NBA Defensive (2nd team)
2001-02 All-NBA Defensive (2nd team)
2002-03 All-NBA Defensive (1st team)
2003-04 All-NBA Defensive (1st team)
2005-06 All-NBA Defensive (1st team)
2006-07 All-NBA Defensive (1st team)
2007-08 All-NBA Defensive (1st team)
2008-09 All-NBA Defensive (1st team)
2009-10 All-NBA Defensive (1st team)
2010-11 All-NBA Defensive (1st team)
Can you tell me how many All-NBA defensive team Shaq made for his Career? Only 3 and they all are 2nd Team (1999-2000, 2000-2001, 2002-2003) but he so called Dominated the 2000s Era? No
Kobe also defeated Tim Duncan 5-2 times during the period in the playoffs! Also from 2007-2014 Duncan was missing. He won 3 chips in 2000s (1st ring in 1999) vs. Kobe 5.
There is no question 2000s Era has Kobe writing all over. Remember Lebron didn’t start Win until 2012. & Shaq himself called Kobe “the best in player in the NBA/world” in 2001. ua-cam.com/video/02NeajL75e8/v-deo.html
Now please tell me what’s you definition of Dominating an Era?
duncan only went to the finals two years during that time compare to Kobe seven and Duncan played in the system from his rookie year all the way till he retired. 8 confrence finals compare to Duncan two so who really dominated the 2000's
J 😂😂😂😂😂
I Am The Night lebron ain't rule no 2010s then lmao he just wins the sorry east most of the time..
Another basketball player name dropping kobe in the GOAT conversation. These media analysts don't get basketball if they don't think kobe is in it
12poopie. If they do it makes there god look smaller😂😂😂
I think he is in the conversation, but LeBron is the GOAT
So you get basketball more than people who get paid 6-8 figures to talk basketball? Get over yourself. These people are mostly Ivy League graduates and former players. They know what they talking about.
therealist811
half of the media is former players fym?
TruthMediaFilmsProd.
nigga u probably think the earth is flat and that the moon landing was fake
Just goes to show the perspective of guys who actually played the game and played against the Kobes and Lebrons vs casual fans who think they know it all. Fans who will call VC a hater just for speaking facts. Multiple players have said Kobe is better than Lebron and it's not a hate thing. Real recognizes real
Steve Kerr calls leBron the 2nd GOAT
STEPH Curry has lebron in his top 5 all time, no sign of Kobe though...
I'm sorry but Kobe was better than lebron bro...
@@cp3417 Steph curry is just a crazy .... He doesn't know about real players. He is amazing player. Probably the best shooter ever but his top 5 is trash. Lebron is not a top 5 anyway
@@bereal1640 lol okay delusional man. Pretty much everyone has lebron top 5 all time
Lebron owned Kobe everytime they faced. He was outscoring a prime Kobe at 23y old and doing it MORE EFFICIENTLY!
41 year old Vince Carter would be the Cavs 2nd best player
Derrick Likes NBA 3rd best for sure lmaoo
Facts.
lmaoo y'all gotta stop disrespecting k love like this
timmy K Mart over K love
timmy lmao~
Shoutout to Vince for mentioning Kobe Bryant bout time someone put some respect on his name
nabil chowdhury Kobe Have 5 Rings 🤣😂😭
While he’s definitely not in the GOAT discussion, Vince Carter deserves a lot more respect than he’s given. How many players get drafted to a 16 win team and single handedly take them to the playoffs the next 2 years averaging 26ppg and 28ppg? His second best scorer in Toronto was Antonio Davis lol. And they say LeBron has no help. It’s sad that knee and quad injury robbed him of his elite athleticism in 2002. The media ate him alive for not living up to expectations as the next MJ. But he’s still here after they said he was done and a waste of talent. Still respected at 41 and the reason a lot of fans and current players started getting interested in basketball. He also changed his game to a role player better than any superstar. Respect.
Vc. Admitted after he left Toronto that his last year he didn’t work hard and didn’t try hard. He lost alot of respect from fans, he was also very lazy and was never a good defender, carter only had 2 or 3 good years. The rest of his career was dissapointing, he’s just one of those guys that didn’t want to put in the work, one of those guys looking for that paycheck.
Adam Jamison disappointing? Guess you missed out on an amazing career. 25k points, 10 straight years of averaging more than 20ppg, scoring over 26ppg in the playoffs during his prime years...more than 30 game winning shots (top 3 in NBA history) and possibly the most exciting athlete in the world during his first 5-7 years. Your just repeating the same baseless accusations...he never said he didn’t play hard he was responding to a question about working out in the summer and coach John Thompson actually apologized to him for that interview because of the way ESPN edited it. But if I was VC I would request a trade too with that incompetent organization he had to deal with in Toronto. he was dealing with injuries and trying to get his game back on track between 2002-2004...Toronto gave up on him. One example: he wanted Zach Randolph in the 2001 draft. He wanted Andre Iguodala in the 2004 draft...the Raptors drafted Michael Bradley and Rafeal Arujo lol
He didn’t become what we thought he would become. This guy was supposed to be a top 5 player of all time, but lazyness and lack of defense prevented that
SaadJ15 Dwyane Wade also deserves more respect he did the same or even better and was considered better the best in his draft class at one point while being robbed of an MVP
He's still my favorite player ever watched him since he was a tar heel
Carter needs to be a sports analyst when he retires. He has a great way with talking about this
Good to see Vince talking about kobe since everybody else forgets him
JIGSAW !! He just mentioned him because of the tweet the other day.
Wtf are you talking about kobe still out here making moves boy
Kobe is way better than Lebron.
Vince has great insight
cjuare123. For comments like this one , it's the reason I'm against drugs.
Vince Carter never had the luxury to play with another Superstar in his prime when he was still in his prime.
Air Canada Carter Jason Kidd?
What a shock another NBA player that’s saying Kobe is better than LeBron 😂😂😂😂
McStrokeAvision he's not tho is he
Rick Grimes in your opinion which don’t mean shit it’s no more valid than mine now go bake cake guy
McStrokeAvision Kobrick most misses shots in NBA history
Rick Grimes and still would bust ya favorite players ass
De’Aaron Rose No LeGoat is better in fact
VC is the Raptors GOAT!
The Waterboy Report
That's a reach
MistahUnknown drake is
That’s not saying much 😂
If jordan didnt retire twice in his prime he would be the all time leading NBA scorer in history and probably have 8 rings. dude never lost a finals. clutch as hell. the GOAT. lebron has had the highest payroll and surrounded by 2 other all stars for a decade. overated.
Does Tristan really deserve $86 Million? Hell, does K. Love deserve $100 M's?? You just equated payroll and production. That's like saying "oh he was an All-Star", but the dudes produce below average postseason time. None of that shit matters tbh unless you're just looking to fake nitpick.
Michael Yim LeBron is lucky he didn’t meet Jason terry in the playoffs...oh wait he did
You can see SAS is sick of the comparisons
agree with vince, enough with the comparisson, lebron is still playing, after he retires then you can compare them
vince is great- but he could have been the greatest if he wanted it. when he entered the league- jordan even said- he anointed kobe too soon- before he d seen vince. most talented athlete I've seen in the nba
Even if he dosent eclipse MJ as the GOAT, being #2 all time isn’t that bad either 🤷🏾♂️.
he already passed MJ no cap
I agree Hunnid
LeBron is overrated
Hunnid Rounds mmmm.... naaaaaah. MJ has him beat in some averages still and he did it as a smaller guy in a big dominated game. Lebron near powers through anyone on the opposing team with ease his whole career. Sorry, to me, the driver that takes a sports car and can weave its way through obstacles is more impressive than a monster truck driver who just piles his way through. But that's me.
legion24100 Lebron AND Mj are overrated.
NEVER, LeBron Kno he never will but he enjoys y'all conversation on the topic he ain't passed KOBE yet and how Curry get 3 rings in his era?
"how Curry get 3 rings in his era?" Because he is playing with 4 guys from the Olympic team
In the LeBron era(since 07) 4 other players have won a combined 7 rings. Kobe and Tim(2), Dirk(1) and Steph (2).
4Forty8 Bucks In kobe era ,Tim Duncan has 5 ,Ray Allen has 2,Lebron era only almost have more or even is Curry ....
Jordan A. Tim Ducan won 2 of those against LeBron in the finals my boy Kobe got 5 rings to
jagjit bains you can only say Durant because this team was Drafted Curry ,Klay and Draymond 2nd round plus they was doin numbers before Durant came
The media won't give kobe credit, but at least nba players do. He's clearly the second best player ever. I love LeBron, but he's no Kobe or MJ
Kobe ain't second best
hassan haulcy Kareem is 2nd and Kobe is 3rd
Bruh Kobe is probably the most overrated player ever. I grew to respect his game but he ended his career with the worst FG % EVER. Most missed shots is history and he rarely made game winners. A lot of you guys are living on false memories
Kelvin Wilkes
He shot 45% as a mainly perimeter shooting guard. He was plenty efficient, was clutch, a leader, and could take over games.. 45% is literally 1 less make out of 20 than a 50% shooter. Theres been very few 50% perimeter shooting guards ever. MJ was one.
Your math sucks and your Bball IQ does too. Let the players speak. Their opinion is worth alot more. Kobe is a top 10 all time player.
I love the way Vince Carter puts respect on Kobe Bryant name and his game
Jordan played only 11 Full seasons with Chicago, Lebron is in his 15th year and still chasing the Goat. Think on that for a minute and shut the hell up bron fans.
he chasing cause media won't let Jordan him he just trying to be a great player both all time great ok LeBron the 2nd beat to ever touch a ball still great
Clifford Glover He is chasing beacuse he took the easy out to Miami and back to Kyrie's cavs but Jordan stayed and built a dynasty. He could have ran to Bird's Celtics or Magic's Lakers and won 10 rings.
Jordan & Kobe played flashy skilled aggressive basketball. LeBron just plays aggressive, charging into people (which is cheap)
Lebron travels every play
Bron plays bully ball cause he can’t post With finesse like mj or Kobe there’s a reason why he had to put some weight on. Lebron is just like Julius randle only difference is bron has a higher IQ and on PEDs but both have a not so good shot that play bully ball. Oh and randle don’t stat pad
ERICK CH Funny Kobe and MJ came in with tons of hair. Both got super athletic and lost all that hair...
VC! The most entertaining player in the history of the NBA! No one had more showmanship than half man half amazing.
Carson's World best dunker ever however jordan was the most entertaining
0:44 At this moment Stephen A. Smith dropped to his knees and slobbed up Vince
Tony Hemetona
2:35 Max falls into slobbing here a lil too...a shame
Tony Hemetona because he complimented a great talent? You sound idiotic
LMFAOO
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Sucked him dry
Vince Carter was unlucky, because on his prime he was almost in Kobe's level, but he had a terrible team to play along.
It's 1) MJ 2) Bron right now for me. Never did I think Bron was going to end up #2 for me and he's still playing at the highest level and is STILL the best in the world. Even though I don't see Bron catching and surpassing MJ, I won't rule him out cuz the dude is still got a lot more left in him so why not.
optimusman88 1) nobody gibes a fuck what u say
For me LBJ is nmbr 1, it's not about the rings though (and I won't debate ur opinion either) but I think it called preference, cause they (MJ LBJ) played in two different era, and I'm not sure if LBJ can be a great player if he was in 80-90 and vice versa. If they are an animal, then I'm gonna put it like, u put a camel in Eskimo and put a polar bear on Egypt, u guys will see the 'different'.
optimusman88 mj was already falling off, well see when LeBron is in his later years and still putting up mvp numbers who the 'goat' is, even though it's just a matter of opinion.
optimusman88. You mean steroids in him😂😂😂😂😂
Kellen Moon nope he won't survive in the 80s and 90s
VC could've been in the GOAT conversation if he only had the mamba mentality he literally had everything that it takes
bron will never be as good as Kobe n Mike!!!! but he's a good stat stuffer
kobe not in the same tier as Jordan and LeBron
Ry Guy, 😂😂😂😂😂 u a funny lil fellow , boy stoooop!
Vince is qualified to speak on Jordan, Kobe, and LeBron! All are great!
LeBron will never be better than MJ or Kobe, but like Vince Carter said, he is a special player that we've never seen before. Skill wise, LeBron isnt better than Byrd either, but his size and presence on defense gives him the edge. LeBron is no doubt one of the greats, but it is sad that because the media has to fill their airwaves with controversial topics to get ratings that they have to constantly have this futile debate. MJ and Kobe are better than LeBron and always will be even if LeBron wins another championship or racks up more MVPs. Just talk about how special LeBron is, and call it a day.
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Give it up to Vince Carter! So humble, a quality I see most lacking with today's superstars.
I'll always believe Vince Carter could have been THAT dude after Jordan but media bailed on him
Remember when Vince Carter was supposed to be the one to eclipse or challenge Jordan.
Vince could've been the greatest of all time.
Travis Releford I agree on that. Had the athletic ability of jordan and power like LeBron but no dedication and heart to get better.
Vince had a bad knee injury early in his career which caused an early but slow decline. MJ, Kobe, nor Lebron had to deal with that.
He never would have
I LOVE HOW VINCE KEEPS THROWING KOBES NAME IN. Finally someone acknowledging him
After Jordan retired this guy was my favorite player. VINCANITY!
The Greatest in game Dunkers: Jordan, Carter, Kobe, McGrady, and Shawn Kemp of all time. That's my top 5
Molly better let the puppies breathe more often cuz Joy is taking over at undisputed
I'm glad the players give Kobe the respect that's due. I've never seen a superstar disrespected by the media the way Kobe is.
Tired of these MJ vs Lebron debates MJ 🐐🐐point blank!
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present you the greatest Raptor and dunker of all time, VINCENT LAMAR CARTER aka Half Man Half Amazing.
see love Vince . He knows Kobe is still right there and no one talks about. ITs MJ, KB , and LJ. thos are top 3
man, i wish vince carter never had those injuries :(
Lol 😂 I been telling people Lebron is not even better
Than Kobe Bryant # the Black Mamba!!
He was the MJ of Our ERA.
2 KEYS to Game 3!
1) Bench JR
2) Don't wear matching suits
Vince dropped 24 on the cavs this year.
I’m 25 Born in 92 I DONT remember seeing MJ play, but these clips on this video of MJ got me wishing I did see him play. That fade away footwork on this first clips was clean as fuck!!! MJ Footwork look like it was something special
Having that “killer instinct” is about individuality. Meaning you are going to do what it takes to win by yourself. Back then that could work but it just can’t work in this day in age. With all the 3pt shooting and ball movement and switching etc you just can’t win it all without another consistent superstar with you.
Derrick Woo Kawhi almost did it to the Warriors before Zaza took him out for the season.
Matthew Espinosa almost? It was game 1...
Derrick Woo fax
Derrick Woo It means you do what NEEDS to be done to win. Whether it's making the play, playing the defense, or making the shot. Competitive mindset is about more than "selfish play." MJ wasn't a stupid bull of a player like Westbrook is currently, he was smart enough to know how to win, it's the way he wanted it and killed for it that made him different.
Derrick Woo you don't need 2 superstars just another consistent player who leaves it all on the floor. Just look at what boston was able to accomplish in this years playoffs with no superstar.
Thanks Vince for all the great moments. . Outstanding career🏀🏀🏀🏀
Lol you can tell lebron not better than michael jordan cause they keep bring this topic up everyday
SOMEONE TELL ME WHY VINCE IS NOT ON ONE OF THESE SPORTS CHANNELS ALREADY?
Vincesanity has the best dunk ever over a 7 ft center.
yup
Molly saw joy yesterday and decided to step her game up 😂😂
Vince Carter Shox🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wish I got his autograph had no idea he was gonna be on the show and he sat next to me before he went up there 😂
VINCE IS THE REAL GOAT!!!
I didn't expect Vince to be so great as an analyst. This was gorgeous. I don't know WHY, but I always assumed he was just extremely athletic but not a high bball IQ. Boy was I wrong. Ty for changing my perspective Vince. Looking forward to more. This new breed of analyst are killing it. Vince, S Jackson, Perk. A+
If LeBron STOP taking steroids, he would even be playing, but no matter how many roids you tske, it's NOT gonna give you HEART or a KILLER instinct, he's just WAAAAY to soft !!! Just a pumped up Baby.
Another player that shows Kobe his due disrespect unlike the media just trying to make it just Jordan vs LeBron
SAS hate on Lebron goes as far back as his hairline.
👏😂
Or he just states facts
I read it as San Antonio Spurs
Vince definitely deserves hall of fame.
man this guy doesnt age!!!!!!
Are they going to ask everyone the same question? That's the problem for ESPN. With 3 days between finals games, they literally have nothing to talk about. Why not discuss draft prospects or potential moves that teams can make during the off season?
awkward clapping 0:58
Anthony S L0L
The only time Vince Carter doesnt get the respect he deserve is when he injured Pat McCaw.
Lebron will never be the greatest he doesn’t play defense
That's the difference, Jordan wasn't concerned about recognition as the best... Just whoopin that ass here and now
Until I see 6 Rings or more I do not want to hear no lebron is better than mj because Rings matter
ok dork!
thefartist facts!
Jorge thank u!
If rings matter bill russell has 11 compared to mj JORDAN ONLY HAD 6 GTFO Russell better than jordan
nba 2kking Ight then so ur saying Bill Russell is better than MJ
Honestly vince found the fountain of youth in basketball.. Good on him playing smarter ball and lasting career.
In 10 years time it will be someone else compared to Jordan, and LeBron will be forgotten about in the conversation of the best ever. Kobe's been out of the game for just 3 years and quickly pushed to the side. Michael's head and shoulders above all of them, and everyone knows this. Only Wilt and maybe Kareem are worthy comparisons......Michael is from Mars and LeBron is from Venus.
You're living in a dream world.
Wilt was a giant human version of a Praying Mantis.....you might be right there.
caliba100 not that finals record my boi with 3-6 mafia
Vince Carter is probably the 2nd-best or 3rd-best UNC Tar Heel.
Legod is a man amongst boys.The Man clamped Kd first game and droped 51 on his head.Legod = Best player in the world.
Vince to the Warriors next year... I'm hopeful
The fact that Lebron carried *this* team into the finals is honestly more impressive than any title MJ ever won. Idc if Lebron is 3-100 in the finals, my eyes don’t lie, he’s the GOAT
EDIT:
1. MJ facing better competition is a complete myth. He never beat Bird’s Celtics and beat the Bad Boy Pistons after they got old and already won 2. If you’re saying that Reggie Miller’s Pacers team or Patrick Ewing and John Stark’s Knicks team were that “tougher competition”, you’re delusional
2. On every level of basketball, the greatest player isn’t always on the best team. MJ was blessed to not only have great basketball abilities, but also great teammates and arguably one of the greatest coaches this game has ever had. Lebron has lacked both of those for a majority of his career and still has 3 rings
Derrick Likes NBA Facts
Derrick Likes NBA the excuses lmao take off your cape groupie
lmao just stop it
not really,he did it against weak teams
only shows you're a moron
We will never forget Vinsanity!!! I still watch the Weis video
Okay I think bron is the GOAT but this is getting boring now so many videos About it
lol even you don';t believe that
once the MJ generation media leaves and the lebron generation media comes up. LeBron will be the GOAT almost unanimously
Michael Connors yh the goat with his 3-6 record..MJ will always be the GOAT never lost in the finals thats why he will always remain
Truth is if I put any superstar on LeBron team that he won rings with EVERY SUPERSTAR WOULD WIN PLAYING WITH D WADE CHRIS BOSH RAY ALLEN KYRIE IRVING KEVIN LOVE
legion24100
MJs team was a championship contender without him. They won 55 games after he left. LeBrons teams have never made the playoffs after he left. MJ had a way better team.
Vince is such a class act.
Legod way better Facts.And its not even close.
Vince Carter has so much respect for Kobe, I love it. The disrespect Kobe has been getting is unreal. Make this yet another nba player that knows not to disrespect Kobe.
Bruh kobe ain't even in the conversation
don't comment on anything sports. All the greats put Kobe right behind Jordan. Only idiots like yourself downplay Kobe's greatest. AI, VC, T-Mac, Duncan, K Garnett, G. Payton, K Durant, S. Nash, D.Wade etc have all said Kobe was that dude. It s not all about stats.
Kangman02 kobe ain't top 5
BEST TOUGH SHOTS MAKER IN HISTORY. BEST 1 ON 1 PLAYER IN HISTORY. kobe won 2 without shaq shaq won 1 without kobe. Kobe was robbed of mvps. there is your argumetn you idiot
Kangman02 that’s not “all the greats” lol Oscar, Zeke, Scottie and others have Bron over Kobe. however, Kobe fans need to feel validated so they literally make a list of all the players who say Kobe so that they can feel validated. foh with that nonsense.
Kangman02 and the guys who played also have no idea have to rank players
Thank you Vince carter for speaking facts
I like Vince. Makes great sense and just keeps it 100
Players say kobe>lbj
Media say lbj>kobe
= I'm rolling with the players!!!
Vince really hasn't aged one bit :p Half man, half amazing!
I don’t recall Jordan ever getting spanked 0-4 in the Finals so i think it’s safe to say that this matter is closed permanently..........
ALL BASKETBALL PLAYERS say Kobe is 2nd after NO, but reporters and talk show host never mentions him
I respect the responses from Vince. Giving credit exactly where its due and keeping it real all around.
One thing's for sure. I'm pretty damn lucky to have witnessed MJ, Kobe, and LBJ.
Y'all ever think Vince saying Kobe better than LeBron because Vince and Kobe have very similar games?