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    Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman and Jay Williams weigh in on Carmelo Anthony's claim on an Instagram Live chat with Dwyane Wade that he would have multiple championship rings if he was drafted by the Detroit Pistons over the Denver Nuggets.
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  • @moorstring
    @moorstring 4 роки тому +627

    The bottom line is:
    There is nothing to watch sportswise on TV.

    • @Blackwaifus
      @Blackwaifus 4 роки тому +10

      U need 1 million likes for this one

    • @SocraticMind89
      @SocraticMind89 4 роки тому

      Big faccs

    • @AysarAburrub
      @AysarAburrub 4 роки тому +1

      truer words were never spoken

    • @cliffishot2def
      @cliffishot2def 4 роки тому +1

      Lol when all they do is talking about Lebron people say, "oh boy they can't stop talking about Lebron. When they dont talk about Lebron people say, "they really have nothing else to talk about ". Lol.

    • @Flowerz__
      @Flowerz__ 4 роки тому

      I like watching the old games n stuff actually

  • @stevejobs8751
    @stevejobs8751 4 роки тому +987

    "I'm not wearing any pants and here's why." - Stephen A

  • @drainmei5404
    @drainmei5404 4 роки тому +412

    Stephen “THEY WERE IN A CLUB” A Smith.

  • @BrejetyKirby
    @BrejetyKirby 4 роки тому +800

    I rarely feel bad for max, but when Stephen a ALWAYS disses him and says he doesn’t know basketball, I hurt for him a little bit cause that’s got to get old hearing it over and over again.

    • @GotmerKed
      @GotmerKed 4 роки тому +126

      Max should reply that Stephen A ONLY knows basketball. Sometimes its joke when you hear him talk about football and baseball.

    • @grizz7167
      @grizz7167 4 роки тому +191

      Stephen A doesn’t know basketball as much as he thinks he does

    • @prestonwingate7836
      @prestonwingate7836 4 роки тому +24

      Lol that’s cause he is always wrong Max flip flop more than any analyst on TV. He be trying to make these dumb arguments using words he think people can’t understand to make his point sound good. Just like the Tom Brady cliff theory lol. Brady done got two rings since then, and watch what he do with Tampa!

    • @adultadventures1597
      @adultadventures1597 4 роки тому +13

      SAS really thinks he's smarter than white max 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @jacksonbryant3325
      @jacksonbryant3325 4 роки тому +5

      john He is I mean look at the net worth when SAS was max age. As a black man you have to be really smart

  • @TreyLeday
    @TreyLeday 4 роки тому +372

    “Hold on I’m givin you knowledge; fall back!” -Stephen A. Smith 2020

  • @yayah22
    @yayah22 4 роки тому +274

    Max: There were people who maybe hypothetically considered and thought is it possible Melo could potentially have gone first in the 2003-2004 draft before LeBron?!
    Stephen A: I just received a text from my sources regarding your sources that back in the day, they were high at the time.

    • @micolockett252
      @micolockett252 4 роки тому +4

      yayah22 🗣 STAY OFF THE WEEEEEEED !!!!!

    • @MrDangelo7777
      @MrDangelo7777 4 роки тому +2

      @Quentin Coberley THANKS ! they scrut Melo.

    • @kc1hotboy
      @kc1hotboy 4 роки тому +1

      yayah22 Lmmfao

    • @Geeandrezzi
      @Geeandrezzi 4 роки тому +1

      Quentin Coberley slight reach.......... 🧢

    • @shakadeveaux6851
      @shakadeveaux6851 4 роки тому +1

      @Quentin Coberley I always said tht an ppl countered melo had the better team

  • @miguellafortune
    @miguellafortune 4 роки тому +238

    DET was team first mentality. I can understand why some would doubt a young melo would have trouble fitting in that system but honestly I think he would be just fine. Vets like sheed and Big Ben will make sure melo knows his role 😂

    • @lysanias876
      @lysanias876 4 роки тому +11

      ShowTimeGaming thank u bro 🙏🏽

    • @he8500
      @he8500 4 роки тому +10

      Melo said he was immature and an egotistical person at the time so I don't think he'd have brought into being a defensive worker to, he just wanted to stat pad and put up good numbers being a leading scorer, bj

    • @miguellafortune
      @miguellafortune 4 роки тому +8

      H E true but with vets like Billiups and Big Ben and Larry Brown who dealt with a player very similar like Melo in AI, I think they could make it work

    • @JoeBro915
      @JoeBro915 4 роки тому +4

      H E you can’t get away with that as a rookie no matter how talented you are. That squad would have checked him if he was shooting too much or not enough effort on D

    • @loumoney1018
      @loumoney1018 4 роки тому +1

      FAXX!!!

  • @prophetfromthex
    @prophetfromthex 4 роки тому +164

    Also when Melo was 3rd in MVP and had 54 wins with NY, Rasheed Wallace was on that team.

    • @realniggashit3
      @realniggashit3 4 роки тому +9

      Counterpoint: When the Nuggets won 57 games, it was with Ty Lawson and Andre Miller. Melo and Billups were both gone.

    • @scatpackty5936
      @scatpackty5936 4 роки тому +12

      Thank you! Melo is not LeBron. Melo needs a leader, he was never a leader.

    • @prophetfromthex
      @prophetfromthex 4 роки тому +3

      America First Productions no wonder it was a first round exit. They also had iggy and them boys, had a better team than when Melo was there. Had the nuggets had that 2013 team with Melo, that would’ve been a finals appearance for melo

    • @realniggashit3
      @realniggashit3 4 роки тому +2

      ​@@prophetfromthex Doubt it. West was stacked. Melo and Billups would've also lost in the 1st or 2nd round if they didn't get lucky with seeding. They had the 2nd seed despite the same record as Spurs and Blazers and only 1 more win than 5th seed Rockets. And then Mavs did them a favor by upsetting Spurs in the 1st round. Spurs would've been a matchup nightmare for Denver. Denver was never a legit championship contender at any point.

    • @prophetfromthex
      @prophetfromthex 4 роки тому

      America First Productions May be true but Melo never had true help. Bron did Bron things in the east. Went to LA which was a decent team and couldn’t make the playoffs. Yes injuries were a factor but the year after gets AD and help. Melo stood in NY and the best he got was JR. Melo needed another guy in 2013. They beat Miami 3-1 in the regular season. Had it not been for Tyson being injured, they would’ve beaten Indiana. A lot of should’ve could’ve would’ve but one thing for certain is Melo being a leader. Just needed another star to mesh with him. Amare wasn’t it, and the A.I/ Melo duo was short lived...

  • @need-em
    @need-em 4 роки тому +175

    I'M GIVING YOU KNOWLEDGE, FALL BACK💀

    • @jayjoe77
      @jayjoe77 4 роки тому +4

      Need Em that hit hard 😂😂

    • @ThreadStoppa
      @ThreadStoppa 4 роки тому +4

      😂😂😂

    • @Anthonycheesman33
      @Anthonycheesman33 4 роки тому +16

      Yea the guy whose been wrong the last 7 finals lol

    • @HustleMan31
      @HustleMan31 4 роки тому +2

      😂😂😂😭😭😭😭🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @fredygrijalva1359
      @fredygrijalva1359 4 роки тому

      I would tell him that when he talks mma, boxing, or baseball

  • @mr.devindavis4353
    @mr.devindavis4353 4 роки тому +211

    Max look like he want to shed a tear

    • @bornagain22
      @bornagain22 4 роки тому +3

      Mr. KnowitALL deadasss😂

    • @victorpetrescu6586
      @victorpetrescu6586 4 роки тому +11

      I mean, I'd be annoyed too if someone who is routinely giving idiotic takes acting like he's some basketball genius. I like Stephen A Smith, but he's downright delusional sometimes.

  • @underdawgapparel
    @underdawgapparel 4 роки тому +109

    Pistons with Melo instead of darko would’ve won a couple chips. Period

    • @Dnizzle227
      @Dnizzle227 3 роки тому +2

      Point Blank

    • @jonjohnson1978.
      @jonjohnson1978. 2 роки тому +4

      Pistons were about teamwork and hustle...melo would of disrupted that

    • @underdawgapparel
      @underdawgapparel 2 роки тому +5

      @@jonjohnson1978. you become your environment or what you see on the daily. Melo would’ve had no choice but to adapt

    • @Dnizzle227
      @Dnizzle227 2 роки тому +1

      @@jonjohnson1978. glad we got a psychic to tell us the other possibilities of what melo would of done....stfu

    • @jonjohnson1978.
      @jonjohnson1978. 2 роки тому

      @@Dnizzle227 no

  • @Sephiroth766
    @Sephiroth766 4 роки тому +72

    Fair point to make is that Larry Brown already dealt with Allen Iverson so I can bet he could have dealt fine with Carmelo

    • @raymondbembridge5319
      @raymondbembridge5319 4 роки тому +1

      He didnt win the chip with A.I though but I get your point

    • @daswolio3204
      @daswolio3204 4 роки тому +7

      Sephiroth766 different circumstances. He built an entire style of play and roster around AI. What made the ‘04 Pistons so great was their grit and grind, defense, and chemistry. Throwing in a shot chucking, ball stopping, poor defender seems problematic

    • @dannydaphantom2362
      @dannydaphantom2362 4 роки тому

      DaSwolio U dint kno anything about ball bro

    • @daswolio3204
      @daswolio3204 4 роки тому +1

      Danny K you don’t know English bro

    • @daswolio3204
      @daswolio3204 4 роки тому +1

      kiyan west says a guy who doesn’t even provide a rebuttal lmaooo

  • @balleralert3470
    @balleralert3470 4 роки тому +76

    yall are screaming about something melo said so calmly

    • @jleww8959
      @jleww8959 4 роки тому +4

      Gotta get them views

    • @Shiv23
      @Shiv23 4 роки тому +4

      Nah it’s just Stephan a

  • @markdemesa8322
    @markdemesa8322 4 роки тому +72

    Molly isn't here yet I'm still telling her in my mind to be quiet. LMFAO.

  • @gamingharness15
    @gamingharness15 4 роки тому +39

    “HOLD ON I’m giving you knowledge , FALL BACK” 🤣🤣🤣 I gotta start using that lmao

  • @chrisbalseiro1505
    @chrisbalseiro1505 4 роки тому +15

    Jay said “ I seen Anthony play defense ...in high schoool.” 😂 bruh

  • @borood1188
    @borood1188 4 роки тому +293

    '04 Pistons won in his rookie year, so that's one automatically. '05 they went 7 with SA in a very low scoring series that could have gone either way. Melo definitely could have made the difference in that one. '06 lost to Miami, again needed some scoring punch. '07 lost Ben Wallace, so it's doubtful they would have beaten SA without him. By '08 they were finished. So one for sure, two very strong possibility and maybe three, but also Larry Brown left after '05.

    • @knoda2603
      @knoda2603 4 роки тому +33

      Bo Rood your comment describes the situation very good

    • @phinaddict4857
      @phinaddict4857 4 роки тому +10

      so your saying this pistons team coulda been a dynasty with melo. i still dont understand how they stopped big diesel and black mamba in 04.

    • @Doatello1991
      @Doatello1991 4 роки тому +18

      @Andres Torres Kobe got locked up by Tayshaun Prince. Shaq was fat and out of shape. He was still an offensive juggernaut but his numbers were nothing like his performances from the Lakers’ 3-peat.
      Got to give credit to Ben Wallace and the Pistons’ bigs for wearing down Shaq even though he make 60% of his attempts for the series. Ben Wallace was able to force key turnovers from Shaq.

    • @yvans.
      @yvans. 4 роки тому +3

      Doatello1991 bro shaq destroyed Ben Wallace in 04 out of shape or not 😂 Kobe was the one who killed the Lakers

    • @basketballgod2791
      @basketballgod2791 4 роки тому +6

      The thing is though Carmelo was such a Beat scoring-wise and rebounding that I think it was easily two or three rings I mean with the amount of Defense they would have put around Carmelo that would have been ridiculous

  • @Wodz30
    @Wodz30 3 роки тому +8

    I watched those Pistons teams and I watched them carry the trophy. Truly incredible. I will never forget witnessing history like that.

  • @BILLADO
    @BILLADO 4 роки тому +10

    Max has a way of twisting the questions when he peep he messed up 🤣🤣

  • @JewelAhmed3
    @JewelAhmed3 4 роки тому +19

    Melo was a prospect. Winning NCAA and being the most outstanding player in the tournament. All the ingredients to be a championship winning player.
    I think Melo with a group of vets teaching him the game. He would transcend him self to a top player.

  • @rememberme7056
    @rememberme7056 4 роки тому +38

    Leadership according to Stephen a Smith:
    Point your finger to the exit in a crowded night club.

  • @kamenshepard1110
    @kamenshepard1110 4 роки тому +22

    “They were in a club, they were in a club, they were in a club.. wait hol up they were in a club”.

    • @derrick5112
      @derrick5112 4 роки тому

      The Lazy Gator 🤣🤣🤣

  • @lamonteaton3490
    @lamonteaton3490 4 роки тому +82

    Carmelo would have won with them if he stayed in locker room.

    • @bornagain22
      @bornagain22 4 роки тому

      Lamont Eaton deaddddd

    • @richb7338
      @richb7338 4 роки тому

      Lamont Eaton 👀🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️

    • @nhlakaniphoevacueezitha5977
      @nhlakaniphoevacueezitha5977 4 роки тому

      Cold😂

    • @LILCHAIN24
      @LILCHAIN24 4 роки тому

      Exactly!

    • @mrmaninred22
      @mrmaninred22 4 роки тому

      Literally the only way it works. Putting him on the team and not like him disrupt what they already had going on.

  • @machomunkey482
    @machomunkey482 4 роки тому +106

    Watching Max’s face every time he’s getting Schooled is hilarious

    • @damarimoland1613
      @damarimoland1613 4 роки тому +1

      Macho Munkey 💀

    • @zack7569
      @zack7569 4 роки тому +21

      No he was making that face because Stephan a. is annoying

    • @mkadoza
      @mkadoza 4 роки тому +11

      @@zack7569 Was Stephen A wrong tho? Jay Williams was also lookin at Max crazy for that take.

    • @machomunkey482
      @machomunkey482 4 роки тому +1

      Goodnight Gaming you sound mad 😢

    • @zack7569
      @zack7569 4 роки тому +8

      Macho Munkey I’m not mad I just feel bad for max sometimes

  • @tobyhawthorne9150
    @tobyhawthorne9150 4 роки тому +65

    “If you add a great player it doesn’t necessarily make you a better team” end debate max is correct. Ya’ll never heard of the chaos theory?

    • @luny2nez281
      @luny2nez281 4 роки тому +24

      Carmelo is a rookie. How much can a rookie scoring machine do to make a team worse? Carmelo wouldve been coming off the bench anyways

    • @jordanndombe4537
      @jordanndombe4537 4 роки тому +15

      But you adding a rookie not an all star who gonna demand things.
      That's a kid coming on a great team he can only listen

    • @ganzvv3726
      @ganzvv3726 4 роки тому +1

      Plus the pistons themselves said that they wouldn’t have won a ring that year anyway. Why? Because they also understand the power of team play. As a pistons fan I’ll tell u that melo wouldn’t have made any difference because we had all of the tools and the opportunity to get that other chip. We all said the same thing when melo joined the thunder and we’ve seen how that turned out.

    • @jow8480
      @jow8480 4 роки тому +14

      @@ganzvv3726 melo joining okc wasn't the best example as melo had arguably already gone past his peak form like stephen a smith said melo left it way too late to leave the knicks

    • @ALYoungFuture13
      @ALYoungFuture13 4 роки тому

      European Nonsense Theories

  • @thomasross7201
    @thomasross7201 4 роки тому +42

    Stephen A gets so much factually incorrect, so often that it's laughable for him to suggest that he's educating anyone on anything.

    • @dDddddddddddddhhh
      @dDddddddddddddhhh 4 роки тому

      Thomas Ross John Salley said Carmelo should have gone no.1 on Vlad TV recently but Stephen A knows every ‘officando’ in basketball so I probably imagined that Vlad TV interview.

  • @AttuideAdjuster101
    @AttuideAdjuster101 4 роки тому +6

    “I’m giving you knowledge. Fall back” 😭‼️I cant wait to have kids so I can use that

  • @sports3117
    @sports3117 4 роки тому +72

    Stephen A. is keeping ESPN afloat during the time of crisis

    • @Ronbon
      @Ronbon 4 роки тому +4

      Sports 311 he would keep them afloat regardless of what’s happening

    • @joelnjabo5820
      @joelnjabo5820 4 роки тому +3

      He keeps them afloat in normal conditions.

  • @8ElliottScott
    @8ElliottScott 4 роки тому +26

    “The Tayshaun Princes of the World”

    • @JohnSmith-wh2ob
      @JohnSmith-wh2ob 4 роки тому

      Mark Scott and those boys

    • @zaincasey9203
      @zaincasey9203 4 роки тому

      I would love to meet them lmao

    • @8ElliottScott
      @8ElliottScott 4 роки тому

      @@JohnSmith-wh2ob not to mention John Smith, WHO CAN BALL!

  • @scruffd0g193
    @scruffd0g193 4 роки тому +29

    A Pistons team with Richard Hamilton, Chauncey Billups, Rasheed Wallace, Tayshaun Prince, Ben Wallace and Carmelo Anthony would win TWO NBA Finals.

    • @Myleslambeth
      @Myleslambeth 4 роки тому +1

      Scruff D0g minimum!!!

    • @Geeandrezzi
      @Geeandrezzi 4 роки тому +2

      Myles Lambeth different dynamics, can’t just assume that...

    • @trysephiroth007
      @trysephiroth007 4 роки тому +2

      Who's knows if they would have even got Sheed if they drafted Mello. They traded for Sheed because Darko wasn't playing like a number two pick.

    • @Loganbub
      @Loganbub 4 роки тому

      Troy Moore ok but either way they still needed a big and would of absolutely traded for Sheed regardless of if they had Melo or Darko

    • @Geeandrezzi
      @Geeandrezzi 4 роки тому

      Pouch King the blazers could’ve asked for a different return in the trade. They could’ve wanted tayshaun included in the trade. Which would have made that team WAYYY different defensively......

  • @patrykgadek5503
    @patrykgadek5503 4 роки тому +22

    "You see Max you see this is why I have difficult time listening to you with basketball sometimes"
    Stephen A. straight away

    • @bron3376
      @bron3376 4 роки тому

      Patryk Gadek I laughed 😂😂😂

    • @darkkiwi6312
      @darkkiwi6312 4 роки тому

      LMAOOOO just realised bro im laughng

  • @DenizCDemir
    @DenizCDemir 4 роки тому +7

    Max said nothing wrong. His Indiana point was not wack. He wasn't even forcing it. He just said he would have doubts to whether or not the Pacers would have exploited the defensive liability the is 'Melo. The series already went 7 games as it is. Small things make a difference in series this close.

  • @h1xlockz117
    @h1xlockz117 4 роки тому +42

    1:05 jay Williams loving this 😂😭

  • @patrickhanlon2325
    @patrickhanlon2325 4 роки тому +36

    Anyone from that draft wouldve won a chip if they joined Detroit

    • @davesims4590
      @davesims4590 4 роки тому +1

      Facts

    • @benjacobs2560
      @benjacobs2560 4 роки тому +7

      Thank you. I would’ve won 6 rings if the Bulls drafted me with Michael and Scottie

    • @joejenkins1827
      @joejenkins1827 4 роки тому +2

      People forget they drafted Darko to be a four he bombed so they trade for sheed no telling of that trade happens if melo or bosh gets drafted and neither was the offensive or defensive player sheed was at that time

    • @patrickhanlon2325
      @patrickhanlon2325 4 роки тому +2

      @@joejenkins1827 I actually did forget about that, without sheed there I'm not so high on melo winning with them

    • @dentonkellyjr8095
      @dentonkellyjr8095 4 роки тому

      they could have atleast gotten chris kaman who was solid as a center

  • @FierySpiritMaury
    @FierySpiritMaury 4 роки тому +38

    “He Maybe gets one” like upgrading darko with melo jeopardizes that 2004 chip

    • @mattlarghi
      @mattlarghi 4 роки тому +2

      tayshaun prince locked down kobe
      melo wouldve let kobe get 30 every game. Does rookie melo score enough to make up the difference? Unless you're saying rookie melo could've come off the bench for 2004 Detroit, which fine, I guess he could've won a title as a bench guy

    • @KimarKurosaski
      @KimarKurosaski 4 роки тому +5

      Camari they probably don’t get Rasheed Wallace who everyone in this comment section pretends was already on the team and not a midseason pickup. Without Melo there they probably don’t pick him up and no Sheed = no rings period.

    • @tli7657
      @tli7657 4 роки тому +2

      @kiyan west exactly I hate when folks try and be cute with obvious, common sense arguments. Cool, Prince shut down Kobe but he gave them 10 ppg. Pistons as a whole were a defensive juggernaut, inserting a 20ppg scorer in Melo wouldn't make them worse.

    • @LILCHAIN24
      @LILCHAIN24 4 роки тому

      Lmao exactly

    • @patjenkins1308
      @patjenkins1308 4 роки тому

      @kiyan west maybe they would not have the money to get him midseason if Melo is there already

  • @lalogia2020
    @lalogia2020 4 роки тому +12

    Max is absolutely right here, he’s too intelectual...

    • @southernaviator7010
      @southernaviator7010 4 роки тому

      Right?! These fools literally do not understand Max. Team chemistry is the most untrackable metric there is. Assuming Melo makes the even the same yet alone better is lazy thinking. One piece that doesnt quite fit can ruin the whole puzzle.

    • @saintdockery5740
      @saintdockery5740 4 роки тому +1

      @@southernaviator7010 Melo took a 17 win nuggets team to 43 wins

  • @lexxluggur5277
    @lexxluggur5277 4 роки тому +30

    Stevens A’ s face 3:44 😂😂😂

    • @you1680
      @you1680 4 роки тому +1

      Lexx Luggur jajajajajja

    • @StormS2N
      @StormS2N 4 роки тому

      @@you1680 we don't speak that way. Its hahahaha

    • @stevenbnd
      @stevenbnd 4 роки тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @drainmei5404
      @drainmei5404 4 роки тому +1

      Lexx Luggur Look at 1:50 🤣🤣💀

  • @coltonbeebe8779
    @coltonbeebe8779 4 роки тому +16

    First take is giving me at least some sort of entertainment through this tough time. Stephen A can make anything entertaining

  • @lysanias876
    @lysanias876 4 роки тому +45

    Max is only playing devil’s advocate. We all clearly know Melo would’ve had a few chips if Melo started in Detroit

  • @lifeinthenight8613
    @lifeinthenight8613 4 роки тому +6

    Stephen A always saying Max doesn't know basketball, but he's the same dude that changes his 'best player in the world' every other day lol!
    You're not any better Stephen A!!

  • @Hadad-ln9ww
    @Hadad-ln9ww 4 роки тому +22

    melo stops ball movement. Great scorer, thats all. No rings. Pistons were good cuz of a balanced team off. and def.

    • @troyduffie3836
      @troyduffie3836 4 роки тому +4

      X2 Kings You gotta go watch the last video. Jay talked about ego and understanding of the game getting shaped by your first team. The same is true of melo. He HAD to score in Denver and in NYC.

    • @BigDilf3
      @BigDilf3 4 роки тому

      Troy Duffie that’s what people don’t understand melo gets drafted by us he’s already a great scorer they would’ve made him a great defender too

    • @Hadad-ln9ww
      @Hadad-ln9ww 4 роки тому

      @@troyduffie3836 Whether you HAD to score or not doesn't dictate whether you play defense or not. They guy has been in the league over 15 years. Sooner or later you evolve into more than a scorer if your a great player.

  • @Laurent_08
    @Laurent_08 4 роки тому +15

    Max is fully right. The Pistons were great because of their identity, they were tough, they were sometimes mean, they defended every second, they were a true "team", they had no individual ego, Melo would not have been a good fit at all. And by the way, Melo wouldn't have accepted to start on the bench, no way.

    • @playahdub5287
      @playahdub5287 4 роки тому +1

      As a rookie he had no Choice

    • @jordanndombe4537
      @jordanndombe4537 4 роки тому

      They not talking about all star melo but an 18yr old rookie coming to a great team.
      He could only listen to them

    • @blaccpanther8715
      @blaccpanther8715 4 роки тому +2

      No 18 year old is coming into the NBA and refusing to play off the bench. Also Melp was never a bad defender, he just wasnt a good defender. Like they said, in that system he merely needs to be serviceable. It's a better fit than Melo going to a team with bad defense lol

    • @Laurent_08
      @Laurent_08 4 роки тому

      @@blaccpanther8715 Melo was a NCAA superstar, with already a huge ego, no he wouldn't have accepted to start on the bench.

    • @Laurent_08
      @Laurent_08 4 роки тому

      @@playahdub5287 You have the choice to be unhappy about it and let everybody know you're unhappy...Melo was a superstar coming into the draft, no way he would have accepted to not being a starter.

  • @KantGetRightProd
    @KantGetRightProd 4 роки тому

    Love the passion Gents! Very refreshing to see great basketball minds RESPECTFULLY disagree and do it bringing smiles to one another faces!. Appreciate the blessing.

  • @UnexpectedWonder
    @UnexpectedWonder 4 роки тому

    This is a great Debate. More like these.

  • @dvon1097
    @dvon1097 4 роки тому +4

    That story of Chauncey at the club tellin everyone to get out is epic

    • @brianbanks8570
      @brianbanks8570 4 роки тому

      SAS used to bring this up all the time back in his early days on First take.

  • @trippy1938
    @trippy1938 4 роки тому +25

    This the same dude that said Kawhi has more clutch moments than Kobe😭😭

  • @gusto2954
    @gusto2954 4 роки тому +5

    The question is do they make the move for Rasheed, if Carmelo is playing well?

    • @blackbehemoth6073
      @blackbehemoth6073 4 роки тому

      Vance Terry very true. If they pull the Rasheed trade without losing much, they would have gone back to back

  • @JorgeHernandez-ql7fd
    @JorgeHernandez-ql7fd 4 роки тому

    Love how Stephen A. Says don’t get me started and proceeds to start😂😂😂

  • @3waytrayy444
    @3waytrayy444 4 роки тому +6

    Bruh rookie melo was giving starters 20 a game, you bring him of the bench against second stringers?? He probably would've been 6th man of the year easy.

  • @chauncey123mcallister7
    @chauncey123mcallister7 4 роки тому +10

    Aye my name is Chauncey, and I like hearing S.A.S saying my name...I feels good 😂

  • @Gunners4life629
    @Gunners4life629 4 роки тому +32

    Carmelo doesn't really need a ring to be a Hall of Famer he just has to be great that's all 👍👍🌟🌟 shout out to Carmelo Anthony greatest Denver Nuggets player ever

    • @davidvidda8515
      @davidvidda8515 4 роки тому +5

      Jokic will pass him if he stays healthy

    • @youtubeburr
      @youtubeburr 4 роки тому +1

      David Vidda Key word: if

    • @bryanroberts5409
      @bryanroberts5409 4 роки тому +3

      Y'all had a player by the name of Alex English who was pretty decent...

    • @mgvocals4058
      @mgvocals4058 4 роки тому

      Chauncey done more in Denver's than melo

    • @mgvocals4058
      @mgvocals4058 4 роки тому

      And he isnt better than david Thompson

  • @mikeselvia9598
    @mikeselvia9598 4 роки тому

    One of the best teams of an era which had so many stars, even when the coach was changed 3 times almost back to back camps until Duncan took over in the last mins of game 7

  • @Bhagos2
    @Bhagos2 4 роки тому +10

    If Melo came off the bench he would have won but if he started over Tayshaun I 100% agree with Max

    • @MugiwaraMattB
      @MugiwaraMattB 4 роки тому +1

      But bro the most important detail of this is that Melo was a rookie. No way he’s starting. He would have been a champ and 6th man of the year

    • @lukebashian5591
      @lukebashian5591 4 роки тому

      Mugiwara MattB I dunno Melo probably would expect to start

    • @Stonecoldalston
      @Stonecoldalston 4 роки тому +2

      Ben Hagos they win whether Melo start of come off the bench either way that combo of Melo and Prince would have so worked Melo dropping buckets then prince coming in and shutting down Melo man wearing him down then Melo coming back in putting more pressure on him to stop him

    • @johndonatien8480
      @johndonatien8480 4 роки тому

      I think sheed comes off the bench he only played 20 games that season either way they’re winning with melo

    • @trysephiroth007
      @trysephiroth007 4 роки тому +1

      @@MugiwaraMattB Sheed wasn't even on the team then so Mello would be starting and they might not have even traded for Sheed.

  • @Mrgiftedsoul
    @Mrgiftedsoul 4 роки тому +13

    I’m having a hard time deciding what jay Williams looks like more a genius food critic turtle or an uncover black kebler elf

  • @dimizoe777
    @dimizoe777 4 роки тому +1

    I'm given you knowledge, fall back 😂😂😂

  • @BG33917
    @BG33917 4 роки тому

    Max Kellerman face at the end cracks me up lol

  • @nothingspecial8114
    @nothingspecial8114 4 роки тому +4

    0:28 But yet they always want to bring up Jon Gruden taking over Tony Dungy’s team LOL

    • @nothingspecial8114
      @nothingspecial8114 4 роки тому

      darcoman2 Larry Brown was white it not a racism thing Stephen A is just being biased and hypocritical

  • @marlonthemightysmith7836
    @marlonthemightysmith7836 4 роки тому +4

    I love how they say mello don't play d. On that team he wouldn't of had to! Not to mention I seen games in mellos prime where he locked down kobe

    • @Antygrvity69
      @Antygrvity69 4 роки тому +1

      Marlon Smith: What game / games did you see Melo Lock down Kobe? Melo is a stiff defending 4 @ best, guarding an all time great 2 in Kobe is ridiculous.!

    • @Antygrvity69
      @Antygrvity69 4 роки тому +2

      @kiyan west : No need to, I'm old enough to have watched that series when it was actually going on. I'm 49 years old.
      Melo was not going to be a good fit w/ that Pistons team. That Pistons core group was a very close & special group. What many of you seem to forget is that "w/ the exception of Tysuan Prince", each one of them had either failed on other NBA teams, or had worn our their welcome. They came together & proved everyone wrong..
      Melo was coming off an NCAA Championship, felt he should've been # 1 & had a huge ego (understandably so).. That team moved the ball very well & played for each other. The ball stops w/ Melo

    • @Antygrvity69
      @Antygrvity69 4 роки тому +1

      @kiyan west: By the way Kobe averaged 34pts / 5rbs/ & 5.8 assists in that playoff series against the Nuggets, & the Lakers beat them 4 games to 2. Maybe I'm missing something. So Please explain to me how Carmelo Anthony shut Kobe down?

  • @SoulofPimpC
    @SoulofPimpC 4 роки тому +1

    When Steven A. told Max to fall back I lost it! lolololololol

  • @mrfox5165
    @mrfox5165 4 роки тому

    "I'm giving you knowledge fall back" 😂😂

  • @CalixSteez
    @CalixSteez 4 роки тому +17

    Yeah Max gotta chill with this one lmao I usually side with him but he’s crazy.

    • @jamellbrown7315
      @jamellbrown7315 4 роки тому +3

      Troubled Boy side with him about what!!!?!!!

    • @rouzmajlessi1233
      @rouzmajlessi1233 4 роки тому +1

      Ppl forget is they probably would have not treated for Rasheed Wallace if they had Carmelo

    • @EBee_Z
      @EBee_Z 4 роки тому

      @@rouzmajlessi1233 why not? They play different positions and Carmelo would have probably been an understudy to Tayshon Prince.

  • @petermarkbuay8573
    @petermarkbuay8573 4 роки тому +3

    Max is breaking my heart with his argument... Melo could have been a two way player if was drafted by Detroit... imagine pistons are always in the Finals (04 & 05) and ECF (06,07 & 08)... and they still will not win with Melo? 🤦‍♂️

    • @derekllp23
      @derekllp23 3 роки тому

      The question is, did Melo have the mindset to be a two-way player? Most guys who have that defensive mentality don't have to be taught it at the pro level. They just have that dog in them to be a defender. We can't assume he'd just develop that because he'd be on the Pistons.

  • @sicwillproductionsllc6217
    @sicwillproductionsllc6217 4 роки тому

    “ I’m Giving You Knowledge!” 😂

  • @cjcain2786
    @cjcain2786 4 роки тому

    Bruhh the intro😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @iismellgood
    @iismellgood 4 роки тому +5

    I can't wait to see this as baby Stephen A Smith

  • @turbografxx
    @turbografxx 4 роки тому +3

    Are they implying that a group of defensive minded players in the pistons wouldn’t influence a rookie Carmelo to become a decent defender???

  • @domj9446
    @domj9446 4 роки тому

    Lmao @Max shaking his head no to SAS asking him did you watch the pistons🤣🤣🤣

  • @RealestatePape
    @RealestatePape 4 роки тому

    As a pistons fan We finally got coverage years later they used to hate the pistons we got no tv coverage back then

  • @bc1406
    @bc1406 4 роки тому +5

    Max caught in a web of his lies

  • @WavyJazzyBanks
    @WavyJazzyBanks 4 роки тому +3

    I always said Melo’s legacy was lost on draft day! They had THE squad in the East for years...with Darco!!!

  • @yuhyuhboiicee
    @yuhyuhboiicee 4 роки тому

    it’s like when u catch ur boy cappin and u call em out

  • @stevenbnd
    @stevenbnd 4 роки тому +1

    "I remember these things " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Jayherbo23
    @Jayherbo23 4 роки тому +3

    “I’m giving you knowledge fall back “ 😂😂

  • @CookieGrandson
    @CookieGrandson 4 роки тому +4

    Max always got that little smirk when he know he done pissed Stephen A off lol

  • @mattkhanna
    @mattkhanna Рік тому

    Why have i delved into ESPN arguments from 3 years ago

  • @kanthonyofficial
    @kanthonyofficial 4 роки тому

    the funniest thing about this is the satellite delay. that’s what makes the show. 😂

  • @docrussojr
    @docrussojr 4 роки тому +3

    Melo would've had a Kawhi-like development.

    • @TheBINIBALL
      @TheBINIBALL 4 роки тому

      Honestly, this is a legit "what-if" situation

  • @ziggygotdajuicetv4086
    @ziggygotdajuicetv4086 4 роки тому +8

    Nobody:
    Stephan A Smith: *Loud Noices*

  • @narcherdsda
    @narcherdsda 4 роки тому

    QUARTER CENTURY jajajaja love it

  • @rayp4986
    @rayp4986 4 роки тому

    “I remember these things” 😂😂😂

  • @RatoyaBanks
    @RatoyaBanks 4 роки тому +4

    At 1:01 I thought max was gonna cry. Hurt my feelings lol

    • @NeoMicy
      @NeoMicy 4 роки тому

      Why do all the hot women live in the USA? xD

    • @phinaddict4857
      @phinaddict4857 4 роки тому

      @@NeoMicy noooo not true. all over the world especially in europe theirs lots of hotties. go take a trip to europe or south america and check out dem hotties. bring one home or a couple your preference. its worth your money. I live in Cali so I get to see the hot cali blondes everywhere.

  • @johnmickns
    @johnmickns 4 роки тому +9

    Those pistons teams underachieved actually. They shoulda at 2 chips at the least and add melo instead of darko...

    • @briant1745
      @briant1745 4 роки тому +2

      john mickins no they didn’t, beating the lakers in 04 is still regarded as a massive upset
      They had no superstar, average offense, and the west had like 4 contenders, at least, what do you mean?

    • @johnmickns
      @johnmickns 4 роки тому

      @@briant1745yeah they lost to the spurs the next year i get that. Spurs were VERY solid. But they had absolutely no business losing to the heat in '06 in 6, or the Cavs in the '07 also in 6 both in the ECF

    • @dentonkellyjr8095
      @dentonkellyjr8095 4 роки тому

      @@johnmickns yea they should have won against the cavs atleast but gotta give props to Lebron

    • @johnmickns
      @johnmickns 4 роки тому +1

      @@dentonkellyjr8095 I'm a HUGE lebron fan. He put on one of the greatest playoff performances of all time. I also thought it was poor coaching on the late flip saunders part as well

  • @darkkiwi6312
    @darkkiwi6312 4 роки тому +1

    0:00 the disrespect and look at max face too smh

  • @dktreee
    @dktreee Рік тому

    Its the Smirk from Max for me 😂😂😂😂

  • @ArshdeepSingh-yl5fr
    @ArshdeepSingh-yl5fr 4 роки тому +4

    Pistons don’t win a ring if they draft Melo, as that likely means Tayshaun Prince off the bench plus they likely don’t even trade for Rasheed Wallace, and Melo was a ball dominant player

    • @jleww8959
      @jleww8959 4 роки тому +3

      Naw .. melo off the bench . Pistons wouldn't Need melo To start , until later on in his Career

    • @hassanhaulcy
      @hassanhaulcy 4 роки тому

      Arshdeep Singh THANK YOU PPL SLEEP ON PRINCE’S impact

    • @jordan12118
      @jordan12118 4 роки тому +5

      They would've brought Melo off the bench. Y'all Melo haters something else

    • @lysanias876
      @lysanias876 4 роки тому

      J Leww facts

  • @reginaldhill8082
    @reginaldhill8082 4 роки тому +7

    Stephen A : put ppl around melo that can defend like they did iverson ...
    also stephen A ... melo has only been to one conf finals

    • @johndonatien8480
      @johndonatien8480 4 роки тому

      Reginald Hill lol whats your point 😂

    • @T.Y.R.E.L.L.
      @T.Y.R.E.L.L. 4 роки тому

      Exactly they didn’t surround melo wit great defenders like that that’s why he only made one conf finals

    • @brown_xkmd486
      @brown_xkmd486 4 роки тому

      people always say thay philly team was trash but they specifically built that team around AI. got guys who did all the defense/rebounding so AI could just focus on scoring. that’s why they made the finals and why larry brown won coach of the year

    • @reginaldhill8082
      @reginaldhill8082 4 роки тому

      ce and not to mention they stole a game from LA ..... IN LA .. clearly overmatched

    • @brown_xkmd486
      @brown_xkmd486 4 роки тому

      Reginald Hill they were one of the best defensive teams in the league that year, that helps. that kind of roster set up is the only way I see a team making the finals if their star player is primarily just a scorer like melo/AI

  • @jamesloch3023
    @jamesloch3023 4 роки тому +1

    Max is struggling to be the heel . But he is smiling throughout. He got lit up and took it well. Love this show

  • @Etpsenior7ohFoe
    @Etpsenior7ohFoe 4 роки тому

    6:51 “HARVARD?? Harvard!! “ Lol 😂 SAS goat reminder lol uncle shay next up thought 🤷🏾‍♂️ lol

  • @anthonysegree571
    @anthonysegree571 4 роки тому +25

    Max have something personal against Melo I’m convinced lol

    • @toddymcgann6129
      @toddymcgann6129 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah cause he never brought the knicks anywhere

    • @youtubeburr
      @youtubeburr 4 роки тому +1

      Toddy McGann be bought them to their first playoff series win since 2002. That was the only time he had an actual team around him

    • @austin78993
      @austin78993 4 роки тому +2

      He's scarred by the mismanagement of the Knicks and Melo's selfishness is the epitome of post golden-age Knicks that don't care about winning. Max grew up in New York and he knows a selfish player when he sees one.

    • @youtubeburr
      @youtubeburr 4 роки тому

      austin78993 how was melo selfish? Let me guess “he KicKed LiN oUt”

    • @youtubeburr
      @youtubeburr 4 роки тому

      kiyan west and meanwhile lebron who got his coaches fired and tried to get spo fired is viewed as unselfish. These media narratives have gotta stop

  • @mitchfricano
    @mitchfricano 4 роки тому +3

    It’s funny because they literally have nothing to talk about

  • @PikachuUseSpiritGun
    @PikachuUseSpiritGun 4 роки тому

    Lmao "Stephen A.Smith N Wesson"😂😂

  • @TheOneKeyToLife
    @TheOneKeyToLife 4 роки тому

    I turned my phone volume all the way down and still could hear SAS loud and clear 😂💀

  • @LUX-lx6fb
    @LUX-lx6fb 4 роки тому +5

    " I love you son"
    Stephan a: "Mom your wrong n here's why"

  • @johnngaruiya5173
    @johnngaruiya5173 4 роки тому +3

    Some guys are just not champions; Melo, CP3, Charles Barkley it always seems like something will happen and they don't win, that Larry O'Brian trophy is just allergic to them

    • @ALYoungFuture13
      @ALYoungFuture13 4 роки тому

      Dumb comment, Melo would have a Ring Ef Pistons Organization wasn’t Clueless, So Your point automatically invalid

  • @northernlight1000
    @northernlight1000 4 роки тому +1

    I may be wrong.. but did the pistons not get sheed Wallace in a mid season deal?? I don't see that happening if they draft Carmelo which changes ALOT.. Don't know why no one brought that up

  • @kyung-wanyoo5649
    @kyung-wanyoo5649 4 роки тому

    Gotta be like 4 or 5 consecutive "THEY WERE IN A CLUB"s said in there

  • @marcusgarvey630
    @marcusgarvey630 4 роки тому +13

    Max clearly doesnt know basketball

  • @he8500
    @he8500 4 роки тому +4

    Melo won the ncaa so he was good already, he would've provided scoring alongside all those defensive titans at detroit,

  • @TGEMarx
    @TGEMarx 4 роки тому

    “I’m Giving you knowledge fall back”

  • @nathanrobertson1223
    @nathanrobertson1223 4 роки тому +1

    SAS seems like he feels intellectually threatened by Max sometimes, which is why he gets so easily defensive