The Buck Deck.🎉 Cut out a deer logo for the fan intake or exhaust, whichever is more convenient. I think you could put a nice set of stag points that wrap around the outside 🦌
Given the 5700u was code named "Lucienne", I think you should call it the Luce Deck... Preferably emphasising a Kiwi accent when doing so 😂 Saves any heat from Asus, too!
Might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think it would work very well as a clamshell. I'd end up needing to stack the batteries and controller on the top and bottom of the already thick mini PC. I reckon the base of It would end up being nearly 50mm thick. At least with a deck style layout, I have plenty of room to put batteries and controls to either side of the PC
I'd love to see a ryzen system that gets underclocked/undervolted across the board to keep power usage low for good temps and great battery life while maintaining decent performance in demanding games, similar to the switch in handheld mode. Even if its through a power saving profile it would be a great feature. Really excited about this project!
Yeah I do want people to realise this is a continuation of the first Nucdeck so I'll probably be using NucDeck 2.0 in the titles or thumbnails of the first couple of videos in the series
And it does it beautifully. Honestly I'd probably dial the settings back if I was playing on battery, but its impressive it can hit 70fps with everything cranked!
Hey Dan, I hope you see this. But I wanted to also give the recommendation to look at asrock industrial's motherboards. The asrock site has nuc based motherboards and also AMD ones. I've seen ETA Prime use a Ryzen based one. I think this is a good option and will be good to look into since the motherboards can be bought barebones I think, and also Asrock does sort their motherboards by size. So this means you could check for ones of a similar form factor to the nuc you used for the nucdeck. Hope it helps, God bless and all the best with the rest..
Any particular reason for going with a 5000 series? There is actually already one 8000 series available... so you could be almost on par with commercial devices rather than 3 generations behind, since it seems cost is a concert but not one that would prevent you from opting for a 500 device over quite a lot older one at a similar price. The GPU in the recent devices is quite a lot stronger also. Also I am a mod on the AMD subreddit, if you were to name your video in a more plain way it would help a lot since we have a rule that disallows posting links with altered titles. Thanks!
Price, basically. I haven't been able to find anything newer from a relatively trustworthy source that isn't 2.5x the price I paid for this one. I'm aiming for the design to be easily upgradable though so if its something people want to see and the series does well, I may be able to justify upgrading to a newer model eventually!
If I were building one ATM, I'd want: *As flexible as is feasible motherboard/system mounting, as a few mm difference needing a redesign means there's a lot of things that are likely *almost* good to use but can't. Up to and including literally flexible, maybe like those extendable controllers for phones and tablets, where you can (after undoing some screws in this case) move the controllers in or out sideways to accommodate different sizes of motherboards. I'm fairly fond of Mini-STX used in things like ASRock DeskMini line, but I've seen things like salvaged laptop motherboards being used in handhelds. Not sure how much things could move but still keep the same design, but it'd be worthwhile to consider now that NUC is no longer locked to Intel and probably is going to see more variance in design. *Dedicated mouse control of some sort, very handy to have an always available mouse for quick things or occasionally even for game control. Joystick as mouse is a quick hack, but not as nice as a dedicated Trackpoint or Trackpad. *X-Input for the controller. I think a lot of the issues you were having with joystick is that you're using the older HID Joystick standard, but most everything PC wise expects an X-Box controller nowadays. Best of luck on your B-Deck!
Thanks for the feedback! I'd love to make it more flexible but without having a bunch of different options here to measure, I don't know what I can do to solve that problem. The new PC is almost 10mm wider than a standard NUC, so the new one at least should be able to take a normal NUC with just some changes to the mounting points. There will be a bit of room across the bottom of this one so perhaps other brands of mini PC with a square pcb instead of rectangular may work too. Of course, they will all require a slight re-design though due to different port layouts and cooling solutions. I might've been able to make it work in the original housing but I wanted to sort out the controller and display issues at the same time so a re-do of the design from scratch makes the most sense to me. I'm planning to de-couple the power management and the controllers on this one so they can be use independantly so a joycon style setup maybe possible, I'll look into it. I was hoping to have at least a trackpad too, but so far I haven't found anything suitable. Thanks for the suggestion about X-Input, it had never occured to me that it was just a different HID standard. I had a bit of a look and it looks like someones already made an arduino library for it!
I have received my ryzen 72800h belink (16gb of ram and 1To SSD nvme). Yes 18-19volt, i have chosen for the battery pack to made an homemade 3S3P with a BMS (battery management system) 20A 3S with a step up boost from 12v to 19v. Once finished i will test the tension (voltage) to be sure it don't go over. There will be a screen below the deck to check the status of the battery. The battery cells are one of the best: Lii-King4000 18650 4000mAh 3.6V, mesured 3800~3900 in the real world ^^
i have bought the exact same screen because it really helps a lot : waveshare 8 inch Portable 1280x800 IPS Monitor Capacitive Touchscreen and 2 official rail switch to add nintendo switch joycons of the team Nyxi (50$) and 2 official speakers of nintendo switch (ones of normal or oled version, not lite version)
Hi CNCDan! I was wondering why u chose the Beelink ser5 pro 5700U and not something else like the non pro or 5800H or well another ser or Beelink EQ (series) or a Mini S Intel since the Mini S Intel (series) is the cheapest of them all.
what im waiting for is the 30 pin touchscreen panel driver (gt911). when will you release it? because im also working on similar to yours before i watched your videos, and im using ryzen board from laptop. since i dont worry about charging circuit and battery because its already built in to the motherboard. im also using arduino pro micro as XINPUT with 16 channel io expander ic.
I pretty much gave up on the gt911 interface for the time being. I don't know why its not working and I'm just not experienced enough yet to work out how to test it properly 😔
this is a neat project i wonder how it would fair with a mac mini m series mac minis are super power efficient with tiny motherboards now and can run without any cooling unfortunately my a12z mac mini despite being more power efficient and having twice the ram/storage of my spare m1 still uses the massive intel board size so that would be a no go excited to see how this turns out and to mod it to use a mac mini when finished
I had a bit of a look and I'm pretty sure the Mac mini's are almost double the size of a Nuc. Happy to be proven wrong however! I'm really not an apple/max person so I am completely unfamiliar with them!
@@cncdan yea the size is abit misleading on them since they had to keep the same physical dimensions for corporations that have them rack mounted the mac mini is actually around 75% empty space on the inside now (my motherboard measures only 20mm wider than the amd one you used) ill be keeping an eye on this so i can try retrofitting it to work with a mac mini when finished/more complete since i am one of those insane people who game on a mac lol
Mines got 16gb of ram. In my experience, 16gb is still enough for most things people do on a computer, gaming included. That'll probably change in a few years time but for now, this will be plenty!
Ok now it's powered on batteries. I use a BMS 12V 3S 18650 lithium 4000mAh (lii king 4000 verified to ~3900) and a step up Boost 12V to 19V (it gives exactly 19,12v). The battery last 20-22mn in playing switch games. So I have decided to make a bigger battery 3S3P (one battery weigh 45g so 45*9g= 405g just for batteries...)
That doesn't sound right. Did you test the batteries yourself? If you're using one of the more common 19v boost converters you may be hitting the low voltage cut-off of the boost converter before the batteries are actually flat. By my calculations you should get about 45-50 minutes on a battery of that size of your system is the same as mine. If you've bought one of the higher end models, you may have to limit your TDP if you don't want a 400g battery.
@@cncdan Yes i have tested with another Step up boost where you can manually increase the voltage thanks to a potentiometer. The BMS in the boot goes to the security state for avoid the low voltage of cells (3.01v - 2.84v - 2.97v). My volt and amp reader say ok for the 19.1v but the ampere at the boot goes to 1.4A or 1.04A cannot remember... and stop. After that I am forced to switch off and on to bypass the security state of the bms.
Why on earth would you base it on a ryzen 5000 and not 7000 which has the proper radeon 780m mobile GPU? Otherwise a very cool project, disappointing it's gonna have a much weaker iGPU then it could have though.
Price. Basically. Anything newer than this was double the price in Australia sadly! If the project does well I may be able to afford to upgrade it to a newer version in the future!
@@cncdan Damn, didn't really the price was so terrible for the 8000 APUs. In the US though ryzen 7000 mini pcs are going for around $300 which is around the same price as the 5700u, so that may be a good middle ground since they have the radeon 680m which is still quite close to the 780m or even a rog ally and outperforms the steam deck.
I paid about $490 AUD (about $325 USD) for the 5700U version that I'm currently using. The cheapest I've been able to find any of the 7000 series is around the $900 AUD mark. There were a couple of cheaper options on Aliexpress but with even fewer details available about them, I felt they were a bit of a gamble. I wanted to pick something that at least might be available in the same shape/size/brand for a few years which is why I went with Beelink as they were one of the more reputable brands I that I could actually get my hands on.
@@cncdan fair enough, sucks the availability is so terrible in Australia. Well the project here is quite awesome, so I look forward to seeing the completion!
I reckon "DanDeck" is a go-er
Don't know if I'm narcissistic enough to do that 🤣
Finally some amd loving!!!
As for naming AMDECK or Rydeck or Notasteamdeck comes to mind. Sorry being creative aint my strong suite.
Mine either, that's why I asked! Thanks for the suggestions!
+1 for Amdeck
I came to the comments to suggest the same thing, so I third the AMDeck
The Buck Deck.🎉 Cut out a deer logo for the fan intake or exhaust, whichever is more convenient. I think you could put a nice set of stag points that wrap around the outside 🦌
🕹️Zen Deck
Not bad!
This is my personal favorite
But be careful not to provoke ASUS.
@@DavidFilskov they can make a handheld too oh wait 🤠
Given the 5700u was code named "Lucienne", I think you should call it the Luce Deck... Preferably emphasising a Kiwi accent when doing so 😂
Saves any heat from Asus, too!
Maybe try a clamshell design so you have a space for a controller and maybe a small keyboard.
Might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think it would work very well as a clamshell. I'd end up needing to stack the batteries and controller on the top and bottom of the already thick mini PC. I reckon the base of It would end up being nearly 50mm thick. At least with a deck style layout, I have plenty of room to put batteries and controls to either side of the PC
I'd love to see a ryzen system that gets underclocked/undervolted across the board to keep power usage low for good temps and great battery life while maintaining decent performance in demanding games, similar to the switch in handheld mode. Even if its through a power saving profile it would be a great feature. Really excited about this project!
I know AMD is good for over/under clocking but I'm not sure if that is unlocked on these mini pc's. I'll have to take a look!
@@cncdan Universal x86 Tuning Utility App can set amd & intel cpu/apu tdp at 8w
This is Fantastic! why haven't I found this channel before!? great Work!
Thanks! Glad you're enjoying it so far!
Ayyyyyeee ..... he did it! He did the thing!
I sure did! And boy am I keen to get started! 😁
NucDeck 2.0 It's plain, simple, and gets the idea across easily.
Yeah I do want people to realise this is a continuation of the first Nucdeck so I'll probably be using NucDeck 2.0 in the titles or thumbnails of the first couple of videos in the series
First alway is will it run Doom? Perfect!!
And it does it beautifully. Honestly I'd probably dial the settings back if I was playing on battery, but its impressive it can hit 70fps with everything cranked!
DoomDeck :)
Hey Dan, I hope you see this. But I wanted to also give the recommendation to look at asrock industrial's motherboards. The asrock site has nuc based motherboards and also AMD ones. I've seen ETA Prime use a Ryzen based one. I think this is a good option and will be good to look into since the motherboards can be bought barebones I think, and also Asrock does sort their motherboards by size. So this means you could check for ones of a similar form factor to the nuc you used for the nucdeck. Hope it helps, God bless and all the best with the rest..
Any particular reason for going with a 5000 series? There is actually already one 8000 series available... so you could be almost on par with commercial devices rather than 3 generations behind, since it seems cost is a concert but not one that would prevent you from opting for a 500 device over quite a lot older one at a similar price. The GPU in the recent devices is quite a lot stronger also. Also I am a mod on the AMD subreddit, if you were to name your video in a more plain way it would help a lot since we have a rule that disallows posting links with altered titles. Thanks!
Price, basically. I haven't been able to find anything newer from a relatively trustworthy source that isn't 2.5x the price I paid for this one. I'm aiming for the design to be easily upgradable though so if its something people want to see and the series does well, I may be able to justify upgrading to a newer model eventually!
If I were building one ATM, I'd want:
*As flexible as is feasible motherboard/system mounting, as a few mm difference needing a redesign means there's a lot of things that are likely *almost* good to use but can't. Up to and including literally flexible, maybe like those extendable controllers for phones and tablets, where you can (after undoing some screws in this case) move the controllers in or out sideways to accommodate different sizes of motherboards. I'm fairly fond of Mini-STX used in things like ASRock DeskMini line, but I've seen things like salvaged laptop motherboards being used in handhelds. Not sure how much things could move but still keep the same design, but it'd be worthwhile to consider now that NUC is no longer locked to Intel and probably is going to see more variance in design.
*Dedicated mouse control of some sort, very handy to have an always available mouse for quick things or occasionally even for game control. Joystick as mouse is a quick hack, but not as nice as a dedicated Trackpoint or Trackpad.
*X-Input for the controller. I think a lot of the issues you were having with joystick is that you're using the older HID Joystick standard, but most everything PC wise expects an X-Box controller nowadays.
Best of luck on your B-Deck!
Thanks for the feedback!
I'd love to make it more flexible but without having a bunch of different options here to measure, I don't know what I can do to solve that problem. The new PC is almost 10mm wider than a standard NUC, so the new one at least should be able to take a normal NUC with just some changes to the mounting points. There will be a bit of room across the bottom of this one so perhaps other brands of mini PC with a square pcb instead of rectangular may work too. Of course, they will all require a slight re-design though due to different port layouts and cooling solutions.
I might've been able to make it work in the original housing but I wanted to sort out the controller and display issues at the same time so a re-do of the design from scratch makes the most sense to me.
I'm planning to de-couple the power management and the controllers on this one so they can be use independantly so a joycon style setup maybe possible, I'll look into it. I was hoping to have at least a trackpad too, but so far I haven't found anything suitable.
Thanks for the suggestion about X-Input, it had never occured to me that it was just a different HID standard. I had a bit of a look and it looks like someones already made an arduino library for it!
I have received my ryzen 72800h belink (16gb of ram and 1To SSD nvme). Yes 18-19volt, i have chosen for the battery pack to made an homemade 3S3P with a BMS (battery management system) 20A 3S with a step up boost from 12v to 19v. Once finished i will test the tension (voltage) to be sure it don't go over. There will be a screen below the deck to check the status of the battery. The battery cells are one of the best: Lii-King4000 18650 4000mAh 3.6V, mesured 3800~3900 in the real world ^^
i have bought the exact same screen because it really helps a lot : waveshare 8 inch Portable 1280x800 IPS Monitor Capacitive Touchscreen and 2 official rail switch to add nintendo switch joycons of the team Nyxi (50$) and 2 official speakers of nintendo switch (ones of normal or oled version, not lite version)
Hi CNCDan!
I was wondering why u chose the Beelink ser5 pro 5700U and not something else like the non pro or 5800H or well another ser or Beelink EQ (series) or a Mini S Intel since the Mini S Intel (series) is the cheapest of them all.
hell yeah
amazing work
Thanks!
what im waiting for is the 30 pin touchscreen panel driver (gt911). when will you release it? because im also working on similar to yours before i watched your videos, and im using ryzen board from laptop. since i dont worry about charging circuit and battery because its already built in to the motherboard. im also using arduino pro micro as XINPUT with 16 channel io expander ic.
I pretty much gave up on the gt911 interface for the time being. I don't know why its not working and I'm just not experienced enough yet to work out how to test it properly 😔
@@cncdan well, i guess im stuck with uneven bezels. haha. but i think im just going to hide it inside the face plate, problem solved 🤣
this is a neat project
i wonder how it would fair with a mac mini
m series mac minis are super power efficient with tiny motherboards now and can run without any cooling
unfortunately my a12z mac mini despite being more power efficient and having twice the ram/storage of my spare m1 still uses the massive intel board size so that would be a no go
excited to see how this turns out and to mod it to use a mac mini when finished
I had a bit of a look and I'm pretty sure the Mac mini's are almost double the size of a Nuc. Happy to be proven wrong however! I'm really not an apple/max person so I am completely unfamiliar with them!
@@cncdan yea the size is abit misleading on them since they had to keep the same physical dimensions for corporations that have them rack mounted
the mac mini is actually around 75% empty space on the inside now (my motherboard measures only 20mm wider than the amd one you used)
ill be keeping an eye on this so i can try retrofitting it to work with a mac mini when finished/more complete since i am one of those insane people who game on a mac lol
Man this is exciting you can finally experience the true experience of lé doom on a handheld with the Ryzen power 🎉
Can't wait!
@@cncdan it looks great on that new panel you're working with what are whole specs of the screen 👀
Oh yeah amd ryzen 7 5800h !!! with 32gb of RAM or 16gb is enough of ram for a better emulation of switch, ps2 games ?
Mines got 16gb of ram. In my experience, 16gb is still enough for most things people do on a computer, gaming included. That'll probably change in a few years time but for now, this will be plenty!
Ok now it's powered on batteries. I use a BMS 12V 3S 18650 lithium 4000mAh (lii king 4000 verified to ~3900) and a step up Boost 12V to 19V (it gives exactly 19,12v). The battery last 20-22mn in playing switch games. So I have decided to make a bigger battery 3S3P (one battery weigh 45g so 45*9g= 405g just for batteries...)
That doesn't sound right. Did you test the batteries yourself? If you're using one of the more common 19v boost converters you may be hitting the low voltage cut-off of the boost converter before the batteries are actually flat. By my calculations you should get about 45-50 minutes on a battery of that size of your system is the same as mine. If you've bought one of the higher end models, you may have to limit your TDP if you don't want a 400g battery.
I'll be doing some battery life tests in the next episode so it will be interesting to see if mines any better!
@@cncdan Yes i have tested with another Step up boost where you can manually increase the voltage thanks to a potentiometer. The BMS in the boot goes to the security state for avoid the low voltage of cells (3.01v - 2.84v - 2.97v).
My volt and amp reader say ok for the 19.1v but the ampere at the boot goes to 1.4A or 1.04A cannot remember... and stop. After that I am forced to switch off and on to bypass the security state of the bms.
Now i am charging them and i am about to do a bigger battery. And i am begining the case.
I vote for 'Dans8"Deck", for a name. ;)
Why do I get the impression that's supposed to imply something? 🤣
Why on earth would you base it on a ryzen 5000 and not 7000 which has the proper radeon 780m mobile GPU? Otherwise a very cool project, disappointing it's gonna have a much weaker iGPU then it could have though.
Price. Basically. Anything newer than this was double the price in Australia sadly! If the project does well I may be able to afford to upgrade it to a newer version in the future!
@@cncdan Damn, didn't really the price was so terrible for the 8000 APUs. In the US though ryzen 7000 mini pcs are going for around $300 which is around the same price as the 5700u, so that may be a good middle ground since they have the radeon 680m which is still quite close to the 780m or even a rog ally and outperforms the steam deck.
I paid about $490 AUD (about $325 USD) for the 5700U version that I'm currently using. The cheapest I've been able to find any of the 7000 series is around the $900 AUD mark. There were a couple of cheaper options on Aliexpress but with even fewer details available about them, I felt they were a bit of a gamble. I wanted to pick something that at least might be available in the same shape/size/brand for a few years which is why I went with Beelink as they were one of the more reputable brands I that I could actually get my hands on.
@@cncdan fair enough, sucks the availability is so terrible in Australia. Well the project here is quite awesome, so I look forward to seeing the completion!
AMD Deck perfect 👍🏻
Thanks for the suggestion!
NewDeck ... or RyeBoard :) ... or SteamSwitch perhaps? :)
Thanks for the suggestions!
Z-Deck or ZenDeck
Yeah I'm really liking zendeck, which was suggested earlier by someone else too!
BeeBoy
bro upgrade With 8tb M.2 nvme ssd + 64gb ram ddr4 sodimm...............For name use Zenium-Deck
Ultimate Gaming PC Handheld
Definitely needs a bigger SSD, as I've pretty much already filled it with just a couple of games for testing!
@@cncdanSir Use: Ps5 Backbone One Usb C Game Pad + 8tb m.2 nvme ssd gen4/gen5 + 64gb ram sodimm ddr4 3200mhz + 5.5 Portable Monitor HDMI 4K + Wifi 7 M.2 card + Lifepo4 Battery Pack + 1.5 Tb micro sd kioxia + Integrated Slide Mini Keyboard.....Ultimate Gaming Handheld PC Build & Push The Limit of Tech
Zenium-Deck Cyberdeck Ver 3.0 Build That & Defeat All Gaming Handheld PC in Market......
Shout out to mrbromandudeamigo
At least it wasn't too much of a tongue twister!