Destiny 2 - LIGHTFALL CAMPAIGN EXPLAINED! The Veil, Final Shape and Secrets Of The Traveler
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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2023
- Hey Guardians! Today we summarize the events of the Lightfall Campaign in Destiny 2! Let’s discuss the Witness, Neomuna’s Hidden secrets, The Veil and the path to the Final Shape!
“Destiny 2 Lightfall Campaign Explained”
“Destiny 2 Lightfall”
“Lightfall”
“Destiny 2 Lore”
Thanks for watching! - Ігри
Today we recap the events of Lightfall! There are some disappointing moments story wise, but let’s summarize the entire main story. Enjoy
Basically time for everything to suck even worse than it already did. I rather be still fighting The Hive the red legion. I would rather still be doing that then fighting the witness. Because he's too OP man it's like that scene from aliens it's game over man game over. At least we know that the witness is using the darkness to do evil things and the Darkness is not inherently evil.
But still we're screwed dude we're very very much screwed.
How's your video explaining anything ? It's a mere overview.
Sorry to be kinda rude, I'm no hater, actually rather a long time subscriber but man...
@@gv584 it literally said recap.
Kinda funny that Osiris had time to study Strand but not ask "what is the Veil?" the entire campaign
is there a chance we can get a full lore information of the vex? Because they exist within multiple realities and timelines, does that mean they are on or near the power levels of the light and darkness? Are they the third major force?
i found it funny that our character after the first cutscene with the witness through the ghost just looks at it and goes "oh yeah im just gonna ignore the fact that you were literally posessed by the witness talking to calus no problem with that at all"
It’s happened before when they first went into the pyramid on the moon. Only reason why I can see they don’t make it a bigger deal
@@Deathbatx1234 perhaps the problem here was that calus was clearly talkign AT the ghost why would the ghost all of a sudden just start transmiting that just cause it "feels weird" if we saw the witness take over the ghost before in the pyramid shouldnt we at the very least be suspicious of "why would he chose to let us see that thing specificly?"
@@pedromoreira6218 From what I thought happened, Our guardian couldent actually see Calus projection or hear that conversation, just saw ghost say it felt weird and glitch out and stare off into the distance for 30's. Kind of how when Calus was talking with the Witness in that one scene it was all an illusion in his head while he was actually in the throne room.
It’s just plain lazy writing
@@VanAugerify Even if we didn't really see Calus we can clearly see that our ghost speaks.
I loved the fact that Calus refers to players as “My Tenacious little guardian” except when they have the Shadow Title, in which he calls them “My Shadow.” I love when games reference things like that.
Still nothing about our choice of vanguard v drifter
@@johngancarcik5682 wait, Calus didn’t call you a snitch? Odd. I’ve always felt that my decision to side with a random warlock I’ve never seen or met has been the most narratively impactful decision in my gaming career.
I have a little e blush when i hear calus call me his shadow
Kinda similar to how when nezarec talks to you, if you wear his armor/weapon he says other stuff
@@cytofusion6072 my friend chose to snitch and hes definitely still referenced as one till this day lol it cracks me up
Calus’s reaction to not getting a toast from the tormentors sums up this expansion lol
I know this campaign just came out, but it gave me more questions than answers, hope the final shape is worth it.
Basically everything sucks worse than it did previously I rather be still fighting The Hive and the red legion then the events of what's going on in light fall
Well yeah final shape will explain what the hell happened at the end but we got alot answered about light and dark, about the black heart and how it was the vex that made it to try replicate the veil and we got more on nezarec. The story isnt over so yes theres going to be alot of questions and this was the closing of Calus's story not Destinys. We were never going to get all the answers.
"I wasted 50/100 dollars. Hope later when I waste 50/100 dollars it's gonna be worth it"
@@Slavic_SnakeOMFG THANKVYOU idk how these fans cope so well with this taaaaawwdry levels of quality of content
@@Slavic_Snake I wouldn't say wasted, I'm having my fun messing around with Strand, just wish it was stronger story wise
Story was incoherent. In the ending of seraph, the witness wanted eramis to blow up the traveller, but in the ending cutscene, the witness needed the traveller alive for its plan so why try to blow it up? Next, for the first half of the missions, the witness wants calus to use the radial mast (never actually explained what it is) to destroy the veil, though in the final mission, the witness clearly needed the veil to enact its plan so why try to destroy it earlier. Also, it’s egregious that we still don’t actually know WHAT the veil is.
All of lightfall was a set up by the Witness. Wtness didn't need Calus or anyone to actually destroy the Veil if it wanted to. What Witness needed is a ghost, our ghost, to establish a link between the Veil and the Traveler so the Witness could open the Traveler. Calus was a lure for us. What for the Seraph ending, well, I assume that the Witness wanted to get rid of Rasputin and it knew that the only way to do it, is to make Ana do it. Maybe it also knew that RAsputin wouldn't destroy the Traveler.
Although I don't get only one thing. For 2 years straight there has been one more huge villian that never appeared on scree - Xivu Arath. What is her role in all this???
I think the Witness just wanted to get rid of Rasputin, facing one powerful entity instead of two.
Fr. Kinda confusing…
I think it’s more that why yes the witness needed these things for his plan, what we’re seeing on the outside may be containing what he needs. So, blowing up the traveler opens that portal (just less elegant) or that portal takes you inside the traveler and destroying the shell, my guess would be like destroying the tardis. As for the veil, same reason? The ghost was convenient or is actually a creature of both light and dark without knowing it. The veil getting destroyed would probably send the same beam of power to the traveller. Destroying things would be easier and faster for the witness, he wants to not waste time getting the final shape. Hell when he was being hit by the travellers anime attack, he b-lined straight to it. Shrugging of the attack as there’s no time to waste getting his shape. Honestly, I think the man’s impatient
This was definitely the most disappointed I've ever been with a Destiny expansion.
Even putting conflicting stuff aside, this campaigns primary issue is that's it's POINTLESS.
We learn NOTHING. We are at the climax of a decade long saga, and we still don't know what we are fighting, defending, or why. It's ridiculous.
This was the expansion that needed to give the answers. This should have been Destiny's Infinity War.
Instead we got the most flat, lackluster, meaningless story at the games most important time.
Bungie failed big time here.
Funny that Rohan says “not all of us have lives to spare” to Osiris, a guardian without a ghost, meaning he has no lives to spare too XD
This scene pisses me off every time I see it.
To be fair Rohan was probably unaware of that fact at least at first.
Veil is defined as a piece of clothing used to obscure the face, etc. I think all the previous attempts at harming the Traveler were an attempt to replicated the Veils effect. Going back to what was said earlier in the series about the Traveler being referred to as "Pale heart" I think what The Witness wants to do is unite all the forces. The Light (force of life), The Darkness (force of death) and The Strands (bonds that transcend time and space) together in an amalgous state that can only be described as "Not Dead Nor Alive; existing as both Past, Present, and Future, all in one."
Witness power seems to be on a extreme level. We have dealt with the Taken, Siva, timelines and illusions but his powers seems to be more scarier yet interesting.
Yeah.. the fact he's just moving and tearing things apart with the flick of his wrist is just plain scary lol
@@paulfoulger9006 this dude is literally just flicked his arrest and he cut up five ships and their ghosts
he is omnipresent, no?
Shame Calus wasn’t a raid boss, but still, he died as he lived. Sitting in a pile of his own filth
He died the way he lived shiny
I’m glad Calus wasn’t the raid boss. I wouldn’t want him to become the next Taniks. We gotta fight somebody new.
Wasn't he already a raid boss once? Let solo players get a wack at him
I’m real happy he isn’t the raid boss. We already got a version of him as a raid boss and it would be such a downgrade from Rhulk
They teased the raid boss multiple times get ready to fight a god
Like many people said, Lightfall was definitely a filler and wasn’t planned until recently. I really hope the final shape redeems it because it could be the very thing that ties all the loose ends to this enormous story
They're not too worried about the story, so long as you purchase the dlc and invest your hours.
Always going to love Osiris’ reaction to the drop pod 😂
When he jumps out he is ready to throw hands
Love it that Osiris was ready to throw hands but the cloud striders got it covered
When 'The Witness' showed off it's power over the ghost, when we saw it and Calus conversing about their plans; really should have taken it at face value about cluing us in that our Ghost was made into a contingency Trojan Horse.
I did get the feeling something was off, why would the Witness make such a blunder?
I always thought of the witness being us (Our guardian). That in a alternate timeline the traveler managed to turn us (the witness) to the light and we fought the darkness as a champion for the light. After a victorious battle we decided to go back in every timelines (Similar to what the Exo Stranger did) were it was our destiny to be the light that guides humanity but now I don't think that's the case. I know it's a bats**t insane theory but I think our ghost is the witness and we're the traveler in human form. If you go back to the final boss battle in Beyond Light when we fought Eramis, our ghost was knocked out and she had the artifact that allowed us to use stasis yet when we looked within ourselves we were able to do (directly quoting her) the impossible. I think the grimoire card pertaining to us being unbound gave us a clue to what the final shape is supposed to be. Our final shape will be neither light or dark but something that's more powerful than both. It's something that we get to determine ourselves (similar to what we can do with strand, if you fundamentally break down what strand is then you'll see it's no different than what the witness does. Just like Oryx, we learned the ability to take but in a different way). Continuing the theory, We fought the final big boss of the story and won but at a heavy loss. To stop that possible future from happening, we went back in time with our ghost but was somehow separated in every timeline (I thought of that when Osiris saw us in an alternate timeline without our ghost and wielding saints shotgun). Which is why when our ghost finally finds us it says that it's been looking for us for a long time. I think the reason why our ghost just doesn't flat out tell us our past (Knowing exactly who we really are) is to prevent any mistakes that may have caused the casualties leading up to our original victory. Similar to the Exo Strangers story last season with her floating companion. Instead of pushing us like it's doing now, it's giving us the freedom to make our own choices. I know it's a crazy theory but the vex and the witness are not working together nor are they on the same side. Both parties have different agendas and motives at play. The Curse of Osiris DLC proved that in the possible future Osiris saw. Even the Exo Stranger says the true threat is the vex back in D1.
Savathun is gonna be the Travelers Ace in the hole.
It's gonna go down in true savathun fashion too. The Witness is gonna get so far that everyone will think it's about to succeed, then at the last moment... IT WAS ALL A TRICK BY SAVATHUN
The only trick being played is you spending 100$ for a destiny 1 2.0 campaign with no explanations or answers )
Oh awesome, so glad to be part of SAVATHUN'S story...
@Max King Bumgie = the live god of cunning and lies
Err whatever, lol
@@maxking3148 there are SOME answers if you piece things together
@@oco8783 where's the answer as to why crucible and gambit have gotten 0 maps in the past 2 years
6:16 gets me every time I see it. Osiris really hopped out the pod with his fist up ready to throw hands with people taller than Caiatl.
We've just been nomura'd the veil was a key, a key to kingdom hearts
keep them coming....AWESOME JOB AS ALWAYS!!!
29:56 rip sagira 😢 i was actually waiting for someone to use that shell though for this scene
I love how lightfall starts like how the red war dose
The traveler geting attacked ✔️
The guardian boarding a cabal ship and downing it ✔️
Just finished watching the video on The Entire Story Of Destiny! (Creation To Lightfall) amazing btw, but don't forget to put a link in the description to this video as you have not done that yet.
I really enjoyed seeing our guardian take charge before the strand montage
I just hope by the end of this Light Dark saga we have ALL our questions answered. Drifter choice, Traveler and Witness deep dive and possibly explanation of the entire plot or influence it had along our way and more. I'm okay with Questions for now as long as they wrap it up nicely
Very well done ! Thank You Sir.
Nothing will beat Osiris jumping out of that escape pod ready to rumble
Well, lightfall is BIG, COOL and BADASS filler.
Fr a filler arc is exactly what this felt like
Could've been told in a season. Idk how their gonna build a year of content from this. They have no direction whatsoever it seems.
prolly gonna give us answers in the later seasons but wow they have a lot of explaining to do cuss they explained like barely 20% of the some story bits
Neomuna is really pretty but if everyone was uploaded into the cloudarc why leave the city as it is? shouldn't it just be a bunch of servers
the beginning of the campaign reminded me of halo 3 odst, and at 13:59 it reminded me of Halo CE with the warthhog section near the end of the game
26:22 so the Witness gets made because Calus says “you hold the universe in your grasp, and all you can think to do it with it is ….” and then he gets cutoff by the Witness.
so I do understand this was just a dream of Calus’s. however, the Witness being mad at that statement is because he doesn’t have the universe in his grasp. and that leads to the Witness’s “purpose” which is it stop the creation of life.
the Veil was needed in order to enter the Traveler, I believe and there have been hints to what is inside the traveler (“a cosmos in a bottle”). and the Witness is after “it’s pale heart” which is the “key” to stopping creation.
this would then fulfill the Witness’s “purpose”… that being to stop the creation of life. as “the universe makes us all victim… in its infinite cruelty”( 39:21 )
so to be clear, the intentions of the Witness, his so called “purpose” is to end the universe.
side note: being able to control the Traveler from within, or possibly manipulate it would be the “key” to the end of the universe. as our Traveler aka the Gardener, will cease to be able to create
@@Brutal4152 Yep. Perhaps the Witness, like how its had its Disciples work, lost so much and became bitter, so now it wants to make the universe suffer by ending all life, which in turn makes it a hypocrite because IT will have to die too for true annihilation.
Lightfall=No Time To Explain 2
Lightfall campaign definitely was cool to play and it gave some more lore and some surprises as usual but the biggest surprise was nightmare disciple (can't remember how his name) is still alive in the vex Network apparently which is just very confusing like how in the world do you die in the physical world and then transport to the Vex Network that doesn't make sense now who am I kidding it's Space Magic it solves everything it is the logic of the entire universe itself still do I wonder well we face him in the raid or will he seasonal final boss I hope it's the first option and probably the most likely
That’s what I’m thinking the raid name basically confirms it for me
I don't think Nezzy's still alive. I think he's time-traveling from the past through the Vex portal network to the present.
That might've been the backup plan of the Witness all along.
It would explain why the Witness was so tolerant of Calus's incompetence.
Also, what if the Witness is a corrupted version of whatever dwells inside the Traveler?
@@dougcarey2233 oh boy you're gonna be shocked
@@crashlads2685 what do you mean?
@@someonesomeone2166 just wait till the raid comes out my man trust yall are gonna be shocked (in a good way) that guy especially with his confident statement
I think a part that is not stated is how the Witness used us and Calus to get the Veil!
I thought it was weird that our Ghost relayed that message but the ending made sense. The Witness wanted us to know so we would impulsively rush in and be the one to set the link.
Witness never wanted Calus to be a true disciple but wanted him to be an ends to mean!
I believe this is correct, however, there’s still more that could’ve been answered around the witness and especially the veil which is supposed to be the most important object to the witness
@@n0thingbutstatic i absolutely agree! Iltgis campaign had too many “where, when, how” moments!
@@n0thingbutstatic it's implied to be and later is confirmed to be the travelers heart
It was a good campaign for me since I watched your earlier lore vid, i understood much more, but I’m fine with a lot of questions, people were just expecting witch queen level campaign but I think they’re really holding off for the seasons and final shape
maybe, just maybe they are putting all effort and thought on the final shape and hopefully will be as good as witch queen. Still no excuse for this sad dlc but still…
@@miltonmilky5970 well apparently this dlc wasn’t even suppose to happen. The lightfall we were suppose to get is now in final shape so ye it’s gonna be a massive dlc
@@andrewyachovitz6749 Lightfall was filler, i assume the next few seasons are going to be filler. Lets hope The Final Shape doesn't bomb completely
Glad to see I wasn't the only using the Sagira shell in the campaign. Also where did that Kvostov come from?
4:20 to 4:25 never been so satisfying to see dead cabal under those drop pods. Times i've died to the drop pods number in the hundreds by now i bet.
Nezerac needs to show himself man
8:11 my favorite line from calus
It's a interesting campaign
I thought this was going to be more epic! Having just joined Destiny in Season of the Seraph I was so hyped for Lightfall. I felt The Witness was just chilling for most of this. Like it’s power level is so high we should have seen more. I really wanted an infinity war feel. Destruction left right and centre but instead we got a campaign about strand
Making your entire Infrastructure, defenses, and people to one funny little server surely would never have any repercussions that would bite us in the back later on
Kinda like is with the traveler funnily enough
@@oco8783 Facts !
i love how the cape glitches for me too 30:00 onward
Great video fella, love watching your vid's, but love how the cloud strider's say we live 10 years, but noone is taking about that but 1 year on Neptune is 165 years on Earth, so they are about 1650 earth years old that a long time ;-) lol
This expansion is incredibly mediocre. My expectations weren’t that high after the terrible year of the past 3 seasons but wow. I didn’t think WQ was really comparable to Forsaken, TTK, or even ROI, but it was good step forward without Activison’s backing. This is a step backwards. The campaign was terrible and rushed. The nimbus dude was insufferable, but I thought there’d at least be some good story payoff at the end of his atrocious dialogue; I was badly wrong. Bungie has really lost their touch recently.
Soooo no one's gonna talk about the darkness fluid running thru giant pipes like Clovis Brays facilities running towards the veil containment building???
I love the evil bunny wabbit with the smoky bunny ears.
Something I’ve always wanted to know is who is our characters story? was our character someone related to any of the characters or was it just some random? I hope so since idk much of the lore but the fact our character was the only one who could wield the light when no one else could was interesting
I think this is gunna be a huge part of the "answers" DLC. more time travel possible. 6 or 7 comenmts above this one there's a GREAT theory that's crazy and awesome abt this!
So that mural we see at Rohan's death is full of implications that i wish they had just talked about. The witness is the bottom skellyman thing and there is a ghost right next to him. I am pretty sure our whole concept of the collapse and the traveler was convenient lies and neomuna knows more than what we saw, but they should have just told us.
someone had a great theory that we went back in time, and WE are the traveler and our ghost is the witness and they are letting us "replay" the past and make our own choices. its a few comments up they said it much better than i did. :P
I still dont get what the Veil actually is
Neither does Bungie
Lmao it’s the black heart all over again omg
Is the red war all over again
Time for everything to suck
It's the acid Bungie's been doing while developing Lightfall
Welp that was a giant mystery at the end guess we'll have to wait and see.
whats the ornament on wishender? i love how it looks
22:55 such chad energy to make a new path
I wish we had an idea of why the traveler does that at the beginning for the campaign.. what if the traveler is much smarter & aware than we think... like it's trying to create some kind of trap that leads to the end of the witness. I could be way off & that's fine but why would the traveler do what it did?
I noticed on top of caius flag ship is the black armory symbol I think 😮
First Hakke messing with Dark-related tech, now the Black Armoury icon on the Typhon Imperator... That's disregarding the Dark-shaped Omolon hardware in Arrivals.
I’m going back to Destiny 1.
The traveler really got the Witnes trapped in Dr strangers mirror dimension
the border between light and darkness is referenced a lot through basically all of destiny. so maybe the veil is the border? and thats why the witness needed it to enter the traveler? idk just a random thought
I bet not even Bungie knows what The Veil is, because I just finished the campaign and I can guarantee that nobody that finished the campaign knows what the F is actually the Veil. Right know my only guess is that it's "some paracausal sh*t" and thats pretty much it. Half the campaign is just us messing around with Strand. It feels so weird that even post-campaign everyone keeps talking about "The Veil this and the Veil that" and I'm like "ok but what's the Veil please explain?" and why Zavala and Ikora keep telling us that the Traveler is gone? Clearly the end cinematic didn't show that and you can even still see the Traveler with the Triangular-shaped portal on it on the destination map. What happened with the narrative team? Again they did such a good job with the WQ campaign and then Lightfall happens. I'm so confused bro.
The veil is the travelers heart
I am going to game soon
during my playthrough, I noticed that no matter what weapons you have equipped, you are always holding the Kovostov in the cutscene. could that be hinting at something?
Likely so they get the sights
I...um....Humm. I enjoyed it. The campaign was fun. It was terribly short though. I also felt like Bungie did a terrible job of explaining things. We should have learned what the veil is. How this ties together. I want to know more about Neomuna. Maybe its their play to keep people coming back? IDK. I am mixed about this. Hopefully the seasons hash it out a bit more.
I know it might be stupid but i just started actually getting intonthe gane after like a few years of it gathering dust in my library. I don't own lightfall, but how come my hunter and warlock starts at the cosmodome and my titan gets the lightfall intro mission? Is it random on new characters or is it only when making the 3rd character?
17:26 😂😂😂😂 just slides right into the massive fans
Almost nothing is explained in the campaign. We are running from from one place to the next without understanding what is is we are after and why. Bungie needs to slow down and allow the story to breathe, and create some tension. They are content to shovel the most interesting story pieces out of the campaign and onto the lore books, or post campaign missions.
Also, Nimbus was super annoying. What was the point for that character? The voice sounded weird and it felt like MCU style humor where after 10 minutes you are like “please just shut up”. Rohan was way cooler imo.
Witch Queen was way better. I’d argue even Beyond Light.
It’s D1 /Red war all over again
Yeah, I found Nimbus voice/dialogue pretty annoying. RIP Rohan
nimbus has such a specifically unique voice that i think it kinda funny. but why does he have a constant boner???
@@jo3hamilton Shame Ronan died, definitely prefer his character over.. Nimbus..
Nimbus is mostly obnoxious but he did have one moment I found funny.. When he stole Osiris’s data and he said “data wants to be free” I liked that and Osiris being pissed off is funny too.
I actually hope the reason it showed us not shhot the ghost at the end like that is setting up the next year where our gaurdian is looked at with contempt and we go through this wqhole regret arc for not doing it. That might be the only way I can think of to save the story from here,.
It's not like it would have done anything though, because I thought the whole thing in Forsaken was that it took the scorn a long time just to come up with one paracausal bullet just to destroy Cayde's ghost?
Can someone explain to me, if everyone in Neomuna is uploaded to their Neptunian metaverse, why are there building looking like living quarters, social spaces like bars (it all can be in virtual space, why bother) and where do Cloudstriders come from, are they printing some unlucky Neomuni back to real world when there's need to replace one? And why aren't Cloudstriders uploaded back to the CloadArk in case of death. Like with Rohan, Nimbus got his core, it could've been black box of sorts... nothing of this makes sense for me.
The people are digital but have a physical form they can take
I thought the first lore entry we unlock has them all sleeping in some bunker while their consciousness was uploaded to the cloud.
I don’t understand why but im watching on Xbox and it’s added words to your video putting it out of sync but on my phone it’s perfectly fine
Looks really cool, how do you get to it? It pushes me to go The Steppes in the Cosmodrome, there’s the mines below, and the land above, some enemies get dropped off every few minutes in what’s called an extraction, I kill them, and spent a couple hours the other night just running around in the area, selecting all menu items I can, I haven’t found anything that guides me onto the next quest.
it's the most confusing menu and game i've ever played. zero direction with the campaign. this video helped it make sense.
Oh boy, destiny is not for you then
the game is unacceptably bad at guiding you, even fucking warframe does a better job get out of here with your apologist attitude@@siralexander3359
So this sphere of light, aka the Terraforming Traveler, is a Paracausal entity containing a piece/strand of the darkness (a tetrahedron pyramid) within it’s core. A notion, I hypothesized, when the traveler threw off the chains of the red Legion and incidentally alerted the ‘darkness’ tetrahedron ships to its coordinates. I guess the real question is, how will this change its ‘final shape’? will the traveler transform itself? will the Traveler be modified? will the tetrahedron pyramid be extracted?
destiny 2 is so huge now, and most of the story is not well translated with gameplay inside the game itself - so it is much more fun to watch those videos!
I believe we did not have any chouse on how it will end, Witness planned all our actions! For starters Witness is ions old and possibly can move true time, had plenty of time to plan all strategies. He started talking to us true ghost long before he arrives in sol system. Next what was interesting for me - he destroyed other guardians, their ghosts and ships with ease, but did nothing to us, even we was there flying around as well. He needed us to go to Neptune. Next part when he spoke with Calus true our ghosts - he knew that Calus would fail because Calus failed to us in past so withness hiddenly "told" us then we need to go and protect it our self the veil to get our ghost there.
21:10 is that Elsie's fish or another instance of it?
25:00 Atleast Rohan was useful somehow and dropped some glimmer.
even now after completing the campaign, I think this stands as a prime example of the Devs being like: "hey so we completed the gameplay plan, it's super tight! [Strand] functions great, so glad we took the extra time to fine-tune it. ... The game shipped YESTERDAY???"
How can the drop pod only hold one guardian?
caiatl telling our guardian to destroy our ghost and our guardian actually pointing a gun at it is the worst cutscene in destinys history
How?
@@skyyy7544 its like if someone yelled "your best friend is [insert bad thing here], destroy them!"
Or if ana just didn't give a shit about pulling Rasputins plug, it completely disregards the emotional connection we have with our ghost
I still won’t forget how Osiris says No in a tone which he was suppose to be the wisest guardian of what I’ve heard
It feels like the plot of destiny is getting weaker and weaker as time goes on. Almost like the secrets and shrouds we've experienced are just ways of them covering up the fact that they have no idea what they're doing with the story.
How else to milk seasons and get more money? The story must be stretched so thin to borderline incoherent to make another season
Have to disagree because the story of witch queen was one of their best works and season of the seraph, right before lightfall, had a pretty strong story too. So I wouldnt say it got any weaker over time, just a few hiccups over the years, but this DEFINITELY was a sharp decline from their previous expansion. We'll have to see how the next few seasons play out to see if youre right i guess
Darkside Royalty was right again lmao
stop, bro, dont follow that man, he's weird xd
I need to know the name of the music when Rohan died
i had this question when i finished lightfall is the veil a link/source to the light or is the traveler the only source to the light
It is a key to entering or open the enclosed and protected source of the light. This source and the darkness source will combine to create the final shape. I have no idea what the final shape is.
@@gabrielsanchez5553 from my calculations, it is a hershey's kiss
@@piggygamer9745 🤣
I think i missed the Explained part in this vod?
Only part I missed is why Osiris has the exo strangers ghost thing
what if... what if the ENTIRE Calus storyline here was all misdirection? The Witness knew if it took us on directly, we'd probably win through sheer numbers alone. instead, it set up the Emperor to be our focal point while IT located the Veil, and once Neptune was found, we went straight there, and fought through to the Veil to 'stop' Calus from claiming it. The Witness either knew Calus would fail, or if it didn't, it knew that no matter which side won, it would be able to link to the Veil regardless. The Radial Mast was its "homemade" way of doing this, kind of like a surrogate for what our ghost did. The Witness SHOWED US this "destroy the Veil" version of events, probably even explicitly TOLD Calus to do so, so that WE would beat him there and enable the Witness to link, OR we would die trying, and that's one less obstacle.
Now, this was NOT properly communicated in the story as it is, and while the damage there is done, Bungie can absolutely salvage this into something better as the next couple of seasons progress. Shame it was such a dud though, this whole setup had/still has serious potential.
I think the witness is just a lost child in my opinion lol
LightFall was basically an 80’s action film
Dude what armor is that Hunter in, and how do you get it ?!?!?
I knew it nezarec lives
If the witness talking through our ghost doesn’t tell y’all that the traveler and the witness are the fragments of the final shape. I’m guessing just like with religion the gardener and the winnower were one being, got bored, decided to split itself in two (Adam and eve) and played a game of creation and destruction. The darker half of the god (the winnower; the witness) decided the traveler wasn’t playing fair anymore and attacked. In the books it said the winnower crested the first bladed in existence and struck the gardener. I’m guessing the traveler has the witness imprisoned somewhere where only she can unlock and free him. I’m guessing that’s why he speaks through broken glass. Also, in that finale cutscene with the witness, he looking at a wall of darkness, like a veil, splits it and reveals the solar system. Like he’s on the outside looking in. Like Osiris said the traveler creates through terraforming therefor it’s power exists in the physical while the witness interacts through influence; nightmares and possession. Just my theory, plz comment !
nimbus's weird boner is the veil all along
Every time I see Shakira the ghost. I feel a little bit sad because I have almost the ghost. But then some personal face happens and now I can't together anymore
i hope the ending is that inside the traveller or wherever tf the witness went is another witness but with black hair and white body and then they kiss
Am I tripping, or was the Veil in Savathun's throne world?
This felt more like season content narratively and was so disapointing and head scratching at the same time . Nothing was explained about the veil except its the river styx . So why was the witness trying to get into the afterlife?
I haven't played Destiny since Witch Queens first season so I have been catching up. Neomuna doesn't makes sense to me, are there no other Cloudstriders? Is that explained? Was it only Nimbus and Rohan? They were Tank and Doser while everyone else is in the Matrix? Is Nimbus now the only biological citizen of Neptune? Also Nimbus seems to be trying REALLY hard to capture the essence of Cayde, but what made Cayde Cayde was Nathan Fillion not witty dialogue.
no other cloudstriders because something something only two (aka they didn't have time to make it able to render more people without the game collapsing on itself
I don’t understand what the veil is. I don’t understand why we only met two cloudstriders. I don’t understand what the cloudstriders are and why they even exist considering neomuna has been hidden from all conflicts until now. I don’t understand the citizens of neomuna because I get that they are uploaded to the thingy but do they no longer have human bodies and if they don’t then why is there an entire city if there is no one to live in it.
1. The veil is the travelers heart.
2. There are only 2 cloudstriders at a time, they only live for 10 years as guardians of the city
3. They have had conflicts in the past fighting the vex
4. The people do normally live in the city with human bodies but for safety reasons they are all in cryo in a bunker while their consciousness are uploaded to the cloudarc
new expansion drops always remind me how shitty time gating seasonal content is. like there is so much less to do now that the seasons are gone
I think in season 21 our guardians may finally learn how to swim instead of stepping into the “poison water” and dying lol.
I think bungie focused more on the QOL of the game.
Few things
1. I believe bungie might continue the story via each season and by the end of the expansion we will know where we are going. They did say they were gonna change how the story goes.
2. Did you notice how the Witness did not once physically interact with anything.
3. I agree partially with you views but still thinking to give it a few weeks and see how things go.