JUBILEE CENSORED US | Muslims vs Ex-Muslims DEBATE
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In this podcast, the3muslims and jad discuss their experience being on jubilee for the Muslims vs Ex Muslims Debate for Middle Ground.
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0:00 Coming Up
0:51 Women’s Rights
4:06 Response to Women’s Rights
8:25 Behind the Scenes with Jubilee
12:50 Modern Women
23:23 Hijab
27:05 Double Standards
32:32 LGTVQ
34:12 Exposing the Intruder
38:15 Her Story
39:01 Sl4v3ry
48:16 Watch This
57:35 Modernism
1:00:00 The Other Muslims
1:03:06 What Jubilee Won’t Share
1:05:23 Why We Attended the Platform
1:08:50 Emotional Baggage
1:16:06 God Knows Best
1:20:21 The Problem With Subjective Morality
1:23:20 Overall Experience
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Assalamualaikum brothers i have a question. When is part4 of the jinn series coming out?
Brothers I appreciate your efforts to put haqq out there without sugarcoating. May Allah keep us all firm on the Deen
I have a humble request kindly cower the awrah of wman as my High T nature has made me sins too many times while watching the discourse Jazak Allah Khair.
Do it like MOHAMMED HIJAB
Keep a *MULTIPLE hidden cameras* with you and expose their cut audio or video
Never participate in any non-muslim program until and unless they dont give you the right to record it. They dont invite you to promote islam
homophobic
They seriously brought a Jew to pretend to be an Ex Muslim? Lmao.
By jewish law Amir is not jewish because judaism is being passed on through the mother. Plus Amir‘s father himself is only half jewish and was raised catholic
rubbing hands.
literally scheming.
@@philippsteiner5608How is he then an ex-Muslim if his father was a Jew and was raised as Catholic?
@@nasraqaali7050 I agree with you. I would not consider him an ex-muslim because he obivously was not raised muslim nor has he lived a muslim life. He should have not represented an ex-muslim because he was lacking fundamental knowledge of Islam. I just wanted to correct the original comment of shawnkay5462 that Amir is also not a Jew.
@@nasraqaali7050lmao he saw kingdom of heaven and though sal was bad ass(which he was) then forgot about it a couple weeks later lol. Plus us Catholics/Christians(North American mostly) copied monogamy from Islam lol we just narrowed it further
Jubilee PINNED a comment saying that "the ex-muslim that was covered up shows all you need to know about this debate, good job to the brave ex-muslims". The bias is CLEAR
Really? I don’t see it
Oh I see, they hearted it. That’s crazy. They also loved all the comments about Atia being the best. Calling themselves the “middle ground” and at the same time showing their bias is so disgusting.
@@Bambino2440 yea 100% shameless anti-muslim bias.
They have a clear agenda against Islam and Muslims
i’m glad you brought this up! this reinforces the stereotypes of islam being a “violent” and “oppressive” religion. jubilee must have an agenda going on against islam.
Pastors failed, politics failed, now their new weapon is ex-muslims. 🤣
LMAOOOO I actually laughed out loud because this is so facts SubhanAllah. You can ask 99% of “ex-Muslims” to recite surat Fatiha and they wouldn’t be able to.. that’s when I would end the discussion 😂
"ex-muslim"
@@Eldariur i forgot the " " 😆
hahahahahh good one fr
Christianity a sinking ship in west & American cultures
It wasn’t just a 2 vs 6, the production team as well was against them. Straight up bias and corruption.
exactly when the muslim brother was using their argument of homosexuality being compared to 2 consenting siblings the producer moved away from that example to just homosexuality. pure bias
@@nero6298that shit made me mad bro😭 they deflected that point like crazy because they had no way to disprove it. With modern technology (birth control etc.) you can bypass all of the original downsides to incest where you don’t have to deal with the deformed offspring. This literally means that a brother and sister/brother+brother can have incest because according to the homosexuality argument “They’re not hurting any one just let them live and love each other.” Liberal ideology intellectually agrees with incest
Jad-“In no way whatsoever am I gonna blatantly disrespect you, for the way that your living your life, just because I, deep down inside, reject your lifestyle” 💀
Also Jad “we’ll then what’s the difference between two consenting men that lay together two consenting brothers who lay together?”
🙄
@@porter9494dawg. you can reject something someone says, while also challenging their beliefs/opinions about it.
the ex-muslims ate and yall mad 😂😅
abnormal that Jubilee gave an ex-muslim title to someone who has never picked up the Qur'an in his life
Nobody actually did
The kaffir guy got exposed as a hendu, the Iranian girl is a les from a family of shah supporting diaspora that despises Iranians, the other guy was a queer Jewish dude and the last one likely never held up a Qur'an to read and understand
not really abnormal. they do this a lot.
Nothing abnormal about it lol. Allah has already told us:
And never will the Jews and the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allāh is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allāh no protector or helper.
[Quran 2:120]
WHY DO WE EVEN KEEP GOING ON THE PLATFORMS OF THE ENEMIES OF ALLAH? What else do we expect from them other than treachery?
Lots of people have picked up the Quran, read it, and didn't like it.
You need to accept that.
@@deistormmods when i say abnormal i mean that i found it weird that Jubilee did that, not that Jubilee doesn't do this often. the word "weird" would have been better i suppose. my apologies for the lack of proper verb usage!
Two things:
1) Jubilee doesn't really care for the truth in any regard. They are a business; hence, they'll do whatever they can to maximize their exposure and maximize profit
2) Everytime a "Muslim vs" debate happens, the main expectation from the other side is that "I hope these Muslims come to our side". They dont really care for what we have to say; so long as we agree with them, they are happy.
"It's not the eyes that are blind but the hearts"
Well duhh haha, I'M NOT EVEN TRYING TO BE RUDE BUT THIS IS ALL SO OBVIOUS. WHY DO WE EVEN KEEP GOING ON THE PLATFORMS OF THE ENEMIES OF ALLAH?
And never will the Jews and the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allāh is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allāh no protector or helper.
[Quran 2:120]
@@m0hamed_kamz70 I feel like if people with knowledge on the religion dont go on Muslims without knowledge go on such channels and these are very big channels with millions of veiws and if these uniformed muslims go on there channels they end up spreading miss information
@@fatimapatel3792they will and ignore it
@@fatimapatel3792 Allah ﷺ is the one who guides whom He wills! Guidance belongs to Him. Our only job is to convey the message clearly and according to the sunnah of the prophet ﷻ. Let's set our priorities straight!
I saw Jad’s conversation with the liberal muslims and now with ex-muslims.
The funny/sad thing is the liberal Muslims argued for the same points as ex-Muslims. Tells you a lot. 🤔
Cause they are one station removed from each other.
IF you look at these progressive "muslim" forums, u will often find topics such as "i hate muslims"
Subhan Allah
Allah ex poses the h y p o c r i t e s in his own ways
Liberal Muslims are hypocrites. Munafiqun. I'll stand before Allah SWT and proclaim that.
wallah
The funniest part was how the ex-Muslims and people in the comments were acting all shocked and offended when incest was brought up. Just a bad excuse to not answer the points made.
They got so offended but wait a sec, a man and man or mom and daughter have not got any chance of procreation . One girl, I think it was the Muslim woman in a niqab or burka said I believe said “they’ve grown up together and they might have an influence etc” Just knowing each other for a long time or since birth is not a good enough reason morally because you might have like long lost brothers or even next door neighbours since birth and around the same age,no one there really says “oh they’ve known each other since birth so might have some influence upon one another
So why use that as a reason. They can’t counter this incest vs homosexuality argument so they get emotional and trigerred without having a real discussion bout it
Islam allows incest though… You can marry your first cousin like Muhammad, consanguineous marriage are highest in Muslim majority countries (Many ME countries and Pakistan) and genetic diseases are through the roof there after generations of following the “sunnah”
The fact that Allah lets you marry your first cousin shows that the Quran is imperfect
@@KushWings According to Merriam-webster and other dictionaries, the word incest is defined as "sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that they are forbidden by law to marry".
The US is one of the few countries in the world that penalize cousin marriage whereas the VAST majority of the world do not penalize it. Therefore, by the most general definition of the word incest, cousin-marriage does not count as incest.
Moreover, new-borns born to first-cousins only have a 2% higher chance of getting genetic defects compared to regular new-borns(if you want a source for this I will provide it). Just to compare, that's the same chance that women over 40 have in birthing children with genetic defects. So to be consistent you would also have to ban women over 40 from having sex because they carry the same risk in birthing children with birth defects as women who are in a first-cousin relationship do.
You will have to try harder than this if you want to find imperfections in the Quran my friend.
@@lygun5581 plus there’s a hadith of Omar saying we should avoid cousin Marriage by generationally in our family tree because we might offsprings that have defects
Its insane how Jubilee had someone admit Incest is ok between estranged brothers, but cut it out. And how they have a fake ex muslim whos parents are Jewish and Christian wth
Siblings being split up is a real life occurrence.
If two brothers or sisters or even brother and sister have relations without knowing they are related morally they have done nothing wrong.
Unless they made a child or knew each other before then you fall into the problem of power dynamics and or a messed up kid.
However incest has nothing to do with being gay it is two different moral dilemmas.
If you can’t see this you do not understand consent or know how to have a respectful relationship.
@@FernandoTorrera ew where do u even determine ur morals from
@@FernandoTorreraThat is, as a matter of fact, NOT okay.
I'm a Christian but respect to you guys, it was obvious that Jubilee was trying to portray Jad as a bad actor from the second the video started. It's just so funny to me how these people want to live a life without any responsibilities and not hold themselves accountable. The points you guys made were beautiful, eloquent and even though we don't share the same religion I was glad I could relate to a lot of core values you guys were talking about and also wanted to point out Rami saying how Islam is a system is so on point. People want to nitpick just specific aspects and transform it into something is not.
All I know is non of the "ex-muslim" would take a bullet for the people they love. I'm 100% sure Jad, Faiyad and Rami would give their lives for the people they love. One of the things I admire the most of Islam is the brotherhood you guys have with one another. That's the type of people you want in your corner.
we appreciate you ricardo ❤🙏
@@inversebrah and I appreciate you guys as well, all love here 🙌
This is such a beautiful comment
Thank you brother. God bless you and your family 🙏
As another fellow Christian i love seeing this comment, we need more of this!. At the end of the day we love God and are doing our best to be the best people he wants us to be and serve him correctly. This type of support for someone who has a different belief is what i think its all about, it shows unity and respect especially when the core values really do align quite a lot... so yeh thank you for your comment! I'm 100% with ya.
Malcolm X said "The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent.” Media has the power to influence minds, ideas, behaviors, and attitudes of the masses.
The first time I saw that video I was not a Muslim, I am now happily a Muslim woman for 5 months alhamdullilah
Mashallah , may allah help in this path and make it easy for you 🤍🤍
Mashallah sister!! ❤❤🥰
Ma Sha Allah... May Allah keep you on in this path and help you with Everything..Ameen❤
Mash Allah ❤
AAAYYYEE im so proud of u my sister, masha'Allah
Every single time. All those "ex-muslims" and anti-islam people can provide are emotinoal arguments that do not prove or disprove islam in the slightest. They just play to the crowd and appeal to emotions.
Jad-“In no way whatsoever am I gonna blatantly disrespect you, for the way that your living your life, just because I, deep down inside, reject your lifestyle” 💀
Also Jad “we’ll then what’s the difference between two consenting men that lay together two consenting brothers who lay together?”
🙄
Because they are setting with todays moral standards. Quran doctrines are outdated.
@@rodrozil6544you just proved from your point of view that morals are subjective and we are not obliged to follow the Standards of The West. The Quran is revelation for all times and the morals taught in it are vastly superior to that of the West. No need for America to spend billions on their military since it will inevitably destroy itself from within. Islam protects Society while Liberalism destroys it
The kafir guy brought up a good point about hijab only being allowed for free women and not slave women. None of these guys addressed that point
@@ChickenTenders388 don’t know why UA-cam keeps deleting my replies. We generally don’t force non Muslims to abide by our clothing. If a slave becomes a Muslims then yes she is compelled to wear the hijab. Plus in a Shariah State Christians and Jews are allowed to drink and sell alcohol to their own communities. I’m using this as an example to show you we don’t enforce all of our laws on non Muslims who live in our lands.
This truly shows Jubilee’s twisted radical left/liberal agendas.
As hamza said, there is no intellectual justification to leave Islam, this just proves it
Great way to put it. Intellectually there is no way. All they have is their complaints and their nafs. Their ilahs are their nafs. That's only why one can leave Islam knowing what it is. Other than that there is no way.
Exactly 💯
When I see the people explaining why they left islam , they just bring some emotional arguments
I wonder what would have happened if people like Hamza Den , Mohammad Hijab , Daniel Haqeqatju were brought here in this discussion
These ex muslims would have pissed their pants 😂😂
Keep telling yourself that😂 at least I'm not wasting my life believing in a fairytale
@@user-zq4le2vm8q nice logic there bud how is it "fairy tales🤓🤓"??? If you dont believe in God almighty then by definition you dont have objective morals and you also believe this universe comes from nothing or randomness which means you believe in "fairy tales 🤓🤓"
@@Palestine4Ever169 your morals arent objective either. They are literally based on a fake story by arabian bullshitters who pretended to be holy :Dd
the fact that some of these "ex-muslims" didnt even read the quran, (I'm honestly not surprised about what you said about amir tho cuz it seems like he didn't have an Islamic past at all.) they cant even disprove Islam they just want to follow their desires
One of them literally quotes a Hadith word for word lol
@@ak-ve4giquoting a hadith isn't the same as reading the quran
@@ak-ve4gi He quoted a part of Surah An-Nisa, verse 34 which refers to which women are permitted/forbidden for men. He then made a conclusion stating that Islam permits sex with slaves without their consent and believes nothing would’ve stopped the early muslims from doing so in times of war.
Not only did he completely ignore the Ilm of Tafsir (correct interpretation) of this verse, he also claimed the act of rape was permitted via authentic Hadith, despite not providing any Sahih-level Hadith to back his claim.
If the Prophet (PBUH) freed a slave who was slapped by their owner (Sahih Muslim 1658), how on earth would rape be permitted?
@@iaRHD Ah, the classic "interpretation" argument. Basically, if you're not Muslim, you can't possibly interpret the Quran.
@@hassansyed6087 A person specialized in the Quran Tafsir will be better able to understand the intended meanings of a verse, and derive rulings from it, as compared to a non-muslim, or even an average believer (not practicing).
That’s why we rely on Muftis, Sheikhs, Scholars (qualified people of knowledge) to provide Fiqh, Ijma, and so forth. Without proper interpretation and study of the Qur’an, whether it’s Tafsir Bi-l-Riwaya, Tafsir Bi-l-Ra’y, or Tafsir Bi-l-Ishara, there are a lot of issues that can lead to misunderstandings and spiritual confusion. I mean, just take a look at the extremists causing chaos.
the ignorance the comment section made me so mad, so i cant imagine how you guys might have felt
Offcourse it's a left wing channel full of American liberals offcourse they don't like Islam
@@hashbrown4meu mean liberals in the comment section, what do u expect from them
@@hashbrown4mewe’re blind followers because we don’t want to follow the ‘norm’ nowadays which is being ‘liberal-minded’?
@@hashbrown4me lol you mean the blind followers that couldn’t completely understand the incest argument without bringing their feelings into it, or the people that kept on repeating that kafir was hiding his face because he’ll get k*lled even after he said it’s because of his mother.
You people are blinded by what you think is right and when you’re placed in a situation where you have to argue them you repeat the same indoctrinated bs but then accuse us of being close minded.
@@hashbrown4me you’re projecting your own feelings, the biggest sheep culture is the western world now, If you think I’m wrong we can discuss on it
“The fact that one ex-muslim has to hide his identity just for sharing his viewpoints as an ex-muslim is crazy. Kudos to those brave ex-muslims.” this is the most liked comment on the video nd its also liked by jubilee. jubilee definitely got an agenda.
Yeah i think so too
They’re right there’s insane people in your religion.. the comments on this video are proof. People have the right to believe what they want, sadly some violent Muslims won’t let us be in peace.
@@adesiredsoundtrack3597that’s not Islam’s fault though? Islam is perfect, Muslims are not.
@@lemonnade5974 no we dont punish those who leave peacefully, im glad u were specific about saying "peacefully" IT SHOWS YOUR STUPIDITY, we only punish those who left islam and then decide to make it their life's mission to become our enemy, be it through words, the fact that those words can lead to death and hatred is enough reason even more when they decide to kill us next
@@adesiredsoundtrack3597 He made it quite explicit that he hid because he didn't want his mother to know. So that narrative that people are out to get him is ridiculous. Why aren't the two other Muslims hiding then?
I knew something was up, literally Faiyad was just staring blankly for most of the hour episode. I just knew that there was censorship going on here.
THIS!!
@@fffboil lol
Everyone, share this video with everyone you know.
We cant accept that these liars to get away with this.
no, why would you promote degenerate channel, 3muslims clarification is good enough to nullify the lie of jubilee video
no need to spread 'what is jubilee' to everyone, else you just give them free exposure (whether to hate or out of curious)
And never will the Jews and the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allāh is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allāh no protector or helper.
[Quran 2:120]
WHY DO WE EVEN KEEP GOING ON THE PLATFORMS OF THE ENEMIES OF ALLAH? What else do we expect from them other than treachery?
I have a great video on my channel regarding slavery in a islamic perspective if anyone is confused or dont understand.
Jad-“In no way whatsoever am I gonna blatantly disrespect you, for the way that your living your life, just because I, deep down inside, reject your lifestyle” 💀
Also Jad “we’ll then what’s the difference between two consenting men that lay together two consenting brothers who lay together?”
🙄
@@porter9494
He simply asked a question to try to prove a point, it's not disrespect. If u're offended by the question then that's just u being afraid of the truth being established.
SubhanAllah, before I accepted Islam in 2020, I was literally as ignorant as these supposed ex-Muslims in the video. No intellectual methods to disprove Islam's validity, only emotional arguments coupled with baseless conjecture spawned by liberal-secular environmental influence.
the western society is so messed up and have come to accept many things which I've come to fully understand this year, alhamdullilah my deen is tenfolds stronger now due to my realization. I've also noticed the comment section on the original video, they are very biased and seem like they have a prejudice against Islam which is quite sad as I'm certain that most of the individuals have done 0 research on our beautiful religion.
So you are in awe of an Arabian Pedophile who lived in deserts some 1400 years ago. When I see you lot I feel real pity. You lot are mad for a mad guy who lived some 1400 years ago.
You replaced one false God with another… sad
@@KushWings may Allah guide you :)
@@silveresperanza5957 Allah guided me to look at birth defects relationship with first cousin marriage and showed me that the sunnah isn’t perfect
I hope you can invite those people back to have a real debate on your channel. No agenda. Pure healthy debate.
Would be great
They wouldn't come to this channel.
@@syedwaseemakram7006 And also they need script like Jubliee gave them :)
The know that radicals exist. They are not stupid.
Amazing. Please do sk
This was a 2 v 6. Great job Jad and Faiyad for setting their weird opinions straight. They really need to invite practicing muslims to their videos.
And never will the Jews and the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allāh is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allāh no protector or helper.
[Quran 2:120]
WHY DO WE EVEN KEEP GOING ON THE PLATFORMS OF THE ENEMIES OF ALLAH? What else do we expect from them other than treachery?
@@m0hamed_kamz70jubilee is not a Christian platform
the girl in the niqab looked practicing but i agree they invite some non practicing muslims
I have a great video on my channel regarding slavery in a islamic perspective if anyone is confused or dont understand.
@@mrsix3102She was wearing leggings with Niqab, it didn’t make sense
Thank you for making a video on this. I felt like this Jubilee video will mostly serve to spread more misinformation about Islam.
They gotta counter the Dawah somehow. 😂😂
One Message Foundation, Muslim Lantern, EF Dawah, Hamza's Den, The Warner, Sabeel Ahmed, Dawah over Dunya e.t.c just to name a few are causing worldwide waves with their respective Dawah. Mashallah. The libs have gotta sow discord somehow. This was their play.
No it showed the truth. Especially the slavery question
@@ak-ve4gi cap Islam is the truth cry harder
@@ak-ve4gi you were the target audience for that Jubilee video and your response shows that
@ak-ve4gi If you are sincere and actually trying to know the truth, learn about slavery in islam. Then you will know why it is a mercy and why there are more slaves in todays world than ever before.
Mashallah barakallah what a brilliant job!!
Mashallah barakallah proud of you guys
Imagine being an Izlam abdul
Imagine being a kafir
Mashallah brothers I’m so proud of you! May Allah reward you!
@CoolestSwordFighter ur like 9 lil bro, go play roblox u kuff
SQ!! Assalamualaikum!
That's just insane, everything was wrong about the jubilee video, and this is coming from someone who is currently questioning Islam. I mean you don't need to be pro-islam to see the clear bias and disingenuous tactics Jubilee used in this video, i was hoping to see arguments from both sides on a leveled field, instead we had this...
From the "moderators", to the comments down the videos, to them using a fake ex-muslim, and that "i would like women to end this...." or whatever that was honestly disgusting. Everything was wrong, i seriously hoped they don't get away with this, they need to be questioned on this until they provide an answer as to what happened here.
Pls dm me @faiyadfit I would love to talk about your journey and questions ;)
@@The3Muslims And never will the Jews and the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allāh is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allāh no protector or helper.
[Quran 2:120]
WHY DO WE EVEN KEEP GOING ON THE PLATFORMS OF THE ENEMIES OF ALLAH? What else do we expect from them other than treachery?
What do you mean by questioning Islam? Are you studying about islam ? Or are you a muslim who has doubts?
@m0hamed_kamz70 I completely agree. Faiyad and Jad shouldn't have gone to this channel. It wouldn't have mattered if the only ones who were present in the video were the so called, "liberal muslims".
I have a great video on my channel regarding slavery in a islamic perspective if anyone is confused or dont understand.
The girl says she's a lesbian, that doesn't make her a man or make her understand how men think and feel like men. That was one of the silliest things I heard in this video.
There is nothing called ex muslim either you become a believer or a disbeliever. Astaqfuru Allah may Allah protect us from the fitnah of this dunya 😢
Technically there are also those the message hasnt reached.
@@aimanbabahmed7449 those are nonbelievers
Grow up kid. This Allah believing is equal to believing Santa Clause is for real. Simply grow up.
@TravisBickle58 so you believe 🎅 but you don't believe the creator who perfected you. Allah has already described people like you so may Allah guide you
@@TravisBickle58 "I don't believe what you believe sorry I can't debate anymore" is your argument
Allahmdulilah I'm a muslim woman, my Allah is all knownig all wise!, Because he is my CREATOR! I'm so happy with his law! And I'm satisfied with it! May Allah help me and all the Muslims Umma to do reicht and forbidd wrong! AMEEN.
Not "he", my sister, not "he", ugh...🤦♀️
Amin
Amin ecmain
Not only did they do an injustice to the Muslims but also to the ex-Muslims. The handicapping of the Muslims was kinda clear by having it be 2 liberal Muslims and 2 “conservative” Muslims vs 4 ex Muslims. And this middle ground episode would have been much better if they not only had “degenerate” ex-Muslims but if they had ex-Muslims who had joined a different religion they would have then represented the ex-Muslims a bit better.
And never will the Jews and the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allāh is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allāh no protector or helper.
[Quran 2:120]
WHY DO WE EVEN KEEP GOING ON THE PLATFORMS OF THE ENEMIES OF ALLAH? What else do we expect from them other than treachery?
@@m0hamed_kamz70 They all are paid actors, none of them will be practiaing muslims, because a muslim knows that these are just tactics of kuffar
@@m0hamed_kamz70Good question, but this can help to debunk these fools who slander Islam
@m0hamed_kamz70 what? Won't approve of you? How would Muslims approve? I think you're confusing approval with a sort of contentment. Muslims will not seek to have you join them out of care. You have no relationship with God. So why would you want others to? The kind of radical change and love from God is something to want to share with others actively because you've been them. You recognize in people who you were before you came to christ and that they all can as well. At the heart of Christianity isn't religion but the heart of God.
only Atia is liberal muslim and exmoose were handipaced too only kafir was doing decent
What really irked me about this jubilee segment was the part where the brother brought up incest and what the difference would be if they engaged in homosexual acts vs. non related people and the prompter wanted to move forward as if things didn't correlate.
I WISH when it came to the hijab, that the Iranian girl would have been questioned why women at a beach have to wear a top piece to cover their breasts and men can essentially go topless.
Thats my point everytime when someone asks why women have to wear hijab and men dont…even in the west, men and women generally have different attire and different “private parts”
Why are men required to be in full suits with multiple layers (even in hot summers) for formal events while women can basically be half naked in cocktail dresses? Are those men oppressed?
Or why are females required to cover their breasts at the beach while men can be completely topless. Are those women oppressed because they have to cover something men don’t?
But no…when it comes to hijab they all have a problem.
I think that’s not the case anymore…. now the ‘liberals’ are even arguing about why women have to cover up their chest when men don’t?
@@islamsmydeen walahi that’s a fact. People are delusional while staring right at the truth
She probably would've said they shouldn't cover their breasts
Depending on the country you don’t have to wear a top piece.
Heck nudist beaches exist.
In Germany some places only allow you to go in a steam bath with a clean towel because they don’t want chlorine in the steam bath.
They only don’t want your naked genitals to touch the wood benches.
So women can go in with a towel wrapped around the waist just like the men.
There is no health reason to cover breasts only genitals.
Not to mention there are so many cultures that don’t see boobs as sexy and women only cover the lower half.
I never trusted Jubilee anyway. The comment section of that video is toxic also.
Love this conversation. I'm a Christian and love to hear all sides. Thank you for sharing light also on the behind the scenes and what jubilee goes after. You can see they enjoy the confrontation many times. And also thank you for taking time to explain some things from islam not assuming that everyone that sees your videos are muslim.
Keep it up guys.
An attack on Islam is actually also an attack on Christianity and vice versa since they don't actually care in what theological principles we respectively believe in.
They are only concerned with ideological differences and our stances on things such as feminism and LGBT. In these times it's important that we focus on the greatest threat which is liberal atheism to preserve the values that we have in common
I'm not a Muslim, but I think you guys were the most intelligent, level-headed, and the best listeners. Even while you were constantly being interrupted and people were dodging your questions. (F.e. They had no answer for your brother/brother question. )
Irani woman was incredibly rude and condescending the entire time.
@@Bambino2440 her arrogance really does speak volumes about these ex muslims
I agree
@@Bambino2440
liar .. these ppl were also dodging q or redirectung the topic elsewhere like thw incest fiasco... that instance doesnt really scream intelligence... these ppl were also interrupting others... however i wish jUBILEE hadnt constantly cut them off in between.... also swear on Allah that u arent muslim then ill believe you
The Iranian women was like Wom3n can't do call to prayer, yea because in islam women pray at home most of the times lmaoooo, she was so dumb
The issue is people are trying extremely hard to change religion to conform to society, Islam and its true believers will not waiver or move an inch. Its refreshing to see anyone regardless of religion who is god fearing or religious these days. May Allah keep us all on the correct path and guide those who have not found it yet. JAK for the content.
Thank you all so much for sharing your experience! I’m a Muslim woman who actually considered applying to be casted for this video, but hesitated out of fear of this exactly happening.
I saw the Jubilee video as soon as it released, and having watched the previous one (Conservative vs. Liberal Muslims) as well as a bunch of videos from your guys’ channel, I KNEW there was something off about the way the director was behaving as well as the way Faiyad and Jad were being portrayed having noticed a lot of what could have been said never made it to the final cut.
A part of me really wishes I was casted to add on more to your points as I agree 100% with them all, but aH you two did a great job! Much appreciation from a fellow Muslim for representing our religion as best as you both could and may Allah continue to strengthen us in spreading the truth🤲
Brooooo wallahi i watched it yesterday when it first came out I spent all afternoon arguing in the comment section about something that's self explanatory and it actually hurt my brain to think that some people are actually that delusional
Dude don't even waste time. They're not (the delusional ones) here because they want to learn. They're all about their liberalism and their way of lives. If they cared genuinely,if they were free thinkers, debating with them would actually be fun&good. Usually it just tires me. I didn't even watch jubilee's video when I saw it was uploaded. I knew I was gonna get pissed off by the so called ex Muslims' statements. I just don't believe someone knowing what's Islam all about,leaving it (just bc of intellectual reasons I mean) , there is no way. All they have is their whims. That's why I don't even respect ex Muslims enough to waste my time to listen to their points of views. It always the same stuff. We all know. They just don't want God telling them what to do. That's all.
That's such a waste of time, + the more you comment or like the comments, YT will promote it to more people because the engagement rate is higher. Instead, you should just dislike the video. Disliking the video makes YT recommend it to fewer people if it's high enough. Commenting will NOT change people's opinions at all, and it even makes more people watch it, and they will have a bad image on Muslims if they don't know anything about Islam.
@@swiftaqua yeah but I do read comments,and there are lots of people like me who read comments. I don't think disliking is the best option.
@@Edameda_mmori reading comments isn't even good for ur mental health. The reason I commented here is because I knew people would be saying that they were talking to ppl in the comments. Just not reading comments is the best option, in my opinion, because if you interact with comments and reply to interact with them, it makes the video engagement rate higher and YT recommends in to more people. The more people watch it, the more money jubilee gets. We don't want to give them more money, and we also don't want their videos to be shown to more people. What The3Muslims did is the best. They made another video about the Jubilee video. That means that people who watched the Jubilee video will probably see this video on their recommended page or something like that. Sorry for a long comment lol
The "ex muslim" asked why cant he fulfill those roles(childbearing) 😂
No wonder he is an ex muslim. Brain isn't working properly
Maybe he looked at his nips and thought he could breastfeed his future baby lol
To everyone saying it isn't worth debating with people like the opposing side, I don't think they went into the debate knowing who they were debating. They went in blind and did a good job upholding the deen for everyone watching and it was probably insanely frustrating to see how much has been cut from the final video. These brothers (in my opinion) have proven themselves to be smart when it comes to how they represent the deen and where they appear on the internet and for that I applaud them because it's very easy to do things for fame and followers and compromise your deen in the process. May Allah swt bless you guys and keep you on the pure path. Ameen.
You don't go on every platform. By going on these platforms, the opposite is also true, whereby you give people the ability to lie and spread doubt. For example, one comment has 9k likes. The comment says that it is crazy how one of the Ex Muslims has to hide his identity. This reinforces the idea that ex-Muslims are in danger. And Jubilee gave that comment a heart. One has to be smarter. Not every platform or person should be debated.
@@abumansaray7 The comments were bound to be full of misinformation and lies, but Allah knows best. I think Muslims have been put in a difficult position because staying silent is just as harmful as appearing on platforms like Jubilee. All we can do is try our best and leave the rest to Allah swt.
I’m glad I came across this video. I’m a Christian and even in the debate the former Muslims were not making great points. Amazing work gentleman spreading God’s word.
Christian believer of JESUS CHRIST who used to eat drink and goes to toilet.GREAT GOD .
Thank you for your kind words. I'd like to recommend that you read the Qur'an.
Why ! I'm ok , Do you need any Information from Quran I'm ready to deliver it.thanks bro
@@bellarikaleempeacechanel8810 Please be respectful.
anita really just joined the ex-muslims damn.. and the revert wasn't that knowledgable about these topics, it was really a 2v6
Yh like why is she joining with the people, who would insult your religion, for lunch?
@@NoHaraminIslam traits of a munafiq
Oh well my imaan only became stronger after this one alhumduillah
Wow. So basically julibee has no integrity. That’s really wack tbh
*L-JUBILEE-TQ*
Correction : it was ex Muslims and Muslims debating two idiots.
Just to point to the incest argument. The only criteria they have for something being morally permissible, in terms of sexual actions was, A, consent, and B, being considered adults. When brother Jad and Faiyad used their (the other side's) own two criteria for incest against them, suddenly, it is wrong. Despite the people in the scenario being both adults and consenting to the act?
They have now added two new criteria, so let's deal with them. C, the child that may result from such a relationship may have a genetic defect, and D, there is a different power dynamic when you have grown up with someone.
As for C, we can say, the use of protection, or simply, that they are of the same sex, so they can't have children in the first place. Not everyone chooses to have children and there are numerous ways (as I am sure they are well aware of) to not have children from such acts. I want to also add that there is no such thing as cops busting down your door if you happen to have a disease that can easily be passed onto your children. Have you ever heard of a law that prohibits people that are more likely to pass down a disease or something to their children, being unable to have children? Clearly, this notion of genetics and children isn't as important as they make it appear to be, to THEM.
Now, what remains is the last contention, which is D, the power dynamic. First and foremost, don't all relationships have power dynamics? Such as age, life experience, education differences, strength differences, intellectual differences, influence and social networking differences, and the list goes on and on. No one denies that there are differences between people in relationships.
But ask yourself this, this so called power dynamic they refer to, is it a negative thing? It is assumed to be, but is it in actuality? Couldn't we just say that the fact that they did grow up together strengthen their bond? Wouldn't you care more about someone you'd spent your entire life with? You know all their bad and good sides, and you most likely love them more than some stranger you've only met for a few months and decided to be in a relationship with? All I am saying is that their argument can easily be flipped on its head. You could even ask, "what about twins then? Do they have a power dynamic when they are so similar?"
Either way, when you let God decide your morality, as you should, since He knows everything and you only have a piece of information, then you won't fall into these discussions. One day in the future, people might in fact use these same arguments to favour incest. Such is the way when your morality is subject to people's opinions. One day, a different type of opinion will have more following, and that becomes the new morality for these people, and they will then see no issues with it.
the incest situation is a paradox. it’s just a sensitive topic so jad can’t make an argument without getting screamed at. as soon as he got them, the moderator stopped the argument
That’s exactly what I thought they had no response to it so the moderator had to come in and save them
They basically HAVE to agree with incest on an intellectual level, because with “modern day” technology you can bypass all of the previously known disadvantages of incest. This effectively makes it so that the incestuous couple is not hurting anyone so why not let them love each other??? Cause love is love right?
This same concept applies to MANY other things as well including necrophillia. When you have sex with a dead person in private you technically aren’t hurting ANYBODY, so according to liberal ideology this should also be allowed😂 And what about these animation and graphic designers? Hypothetically there could be an extremely messed up person in the head, who makes hyper realistic animated ch1ld p*&@ to feed his disgusting fantasies (I bet that there’s a person like this out there). According to liberal ideology this person is allowed to make the animation AND do disgusting things with it in private. Because he technically is NOT hurting anyone since the animations aren’t real people. ASTAFIRGULLAH. We could go on and on about how this liberal “live and let live ideology is wrong.
There is this thing called objective morality and no matter how much mental gymnastics liberals do, their worldview will always be flawed.
Facts
Being incestous is not the same thing because it is known to create birth and genetic defects, and primarily occurs during a young age, thus can lead to grooming and child abuse. Being homosexual does not directly cause any disease, albeit it is correlated high STDs, but that is an issue of monogomany and not sexuality. Hope that makes it clear
Should have asked them to recite Fatiha
no because the second that guy said my father is half Catholic half Jewish, i was like “WHAT THE HECK HE DOING THERE” LOL
Yeah, not gonna lie. That video was embarrassing to watch, but I understood Jubilee was biased when they insisted on women wrapping up and allowing the women to speak. Bs like that 😒
wouldn't it be better to just stay out of their videos? they're clearly biased and are not tryna find the middle ground as they say.
They have a huge audience. Hopefully some good comes out of it and gets ppl with sincere hearts thinking
@@Bambino2440their audience for the most part is extreme liberals... it's painful
@@Bambino2440not really though, jubilee’s viewers are mostly liberals so the comment section will mostly get filled with their opinions
They didn't know the blatant bias. Maybe they should go to Modern Day Debates.
@@anononyoutube They even openly insult the speakers they disagree with.
Watching the video and reading some of their comments gave me a migraine! Barak Allah feekum for shedding some light about what happened behind the scenes. It's so disheartening how the manipulate it towards their bais instead of finding "middle ground" and literally everyone on the ex-muslim said are speaking from emotions and ZERO intellect. الله المستعان
This video needs to go viral. I always watch Jubilee videos but I never knew they straight up lied like that. I'm glad I came across this video.
Subhanallah, they actually reached out to me to be in this video too and I did the whole zoom call with them. They made it seem like it would be a fair and productive conversation but it looks like they edited it in a very censored manner. May Allah reward you all for your efforts. ❤
Its clear they have an agenda.
Thankd for sharing this response video to the Jubilee debate. I am a Christian but felt that the debate organised by Jubilee was slanted towards a progressive perspective. They have done the same with Christians and conservatives on other videos. Jubilee needs to work on ensuring a sense of fairness and balance.
Their whole aim is to make gotcha content and trigger people. It's also funded by the whews. So self explanatory.
You guys should've told jubilee like Andrew tate that you will also record the session so you have the unedited version that you can put up yourself.
An ex-jew and a shia claiming to be ex-muslim! How disingenuous can they be.
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Watching that jubilee video made me so frustrated and upset, thank you for representing Islam well and clearing up all of the misconceptions spread about Islam.
Very few times I’ve ever seen 2 versus 6 and the 2 come out on top…. MashAllah. Reminds me of the verses about 10 believers vanquishing 100 or 100 vanquishing 1000!
Islam Al Haqq!! Jazakom Allah Khair Ikhwan. Very proud of the new generation and the Dawah scene!!!
The hijab is to protect people from their own vanity as well.
You say that but I see women in hijabs wearing a ton of makeup.
@@plantiful5619 that is tabbaruj and not true hijab
@@plantiful5619 lol
1. Whenever someone undermines the need for gender roles, remember that the overwhelming evidence is on your side. So respond to their contention with the question: "What proof do you have that gender roles are unnecessary?" Everything they say will fall under conjecture, or conspiratorial nonsense.
2. Whenever someone challenges the hijab/abaya, they are denying their base instincts of attraction to make their case. Simply ask them: "In order to attract a man, does a woman reveal her adornments, or conceal her adornments? They will evade evident truths and point to outliers.
3. The voice has to be beautified when calling the adhan, and a melodic female voice will elicit unwanted thoughts and stimulation within the men (young and old). Men come to the masjid to fulfill an obligation, not to have their wudhu broken and their spiritual states obliterated, by a feminist competing for the local muadhins job.
4. Men are built and obligated to care for the weak in society (including other men). Women aren't built nor obligated to care for the strong in society. This dynamic underpins the instinctive desire for men to pursue multiple women, as the man is effectively caring for four families. A woman with four husbands leads to the following issues:
a) She effectively deprives four women of financial support (as the resources of four men are pooled into one home).
b) she would have to have the libido of four men, because intercourse will be a week long ordeal. And the number of days she's unwilling to be intimate (due to being exhausted by one) will lead the other three to release their sexual tension elsewhere.
c) If all four men desire to have more than one child each, she will be pregnant for over a decade. This would be unbelievably difficult on her as a mother, and if she refuses to have their children, they will just look elsewhere.
d) std's are inevitable, as she's being touched by four unprotected men. In a polygynous marriage, each woman is being touched by the same man, so the chances of std's are as low as monogamous marriages.
There is a reason why polyandry is practiced among isolated people in small groups, and it's normally the result of perversion or coercion.
Beautifully written. Goes to show how much emotion and little logic goes into their arguments against Islam.
1. Gender roles historically were functional given the biological risk and consequence of pregnancy. Also, with less advanced medical technology infant mortality was very high so multiple consecutive pregnancies and births were necessary to ensure the continuation of the family and to ensure familial care for aging parents would be possible. However, now with such low infant mortality and medical risks with pregnancy the time frame necessary for women to be incapacitated is much smaller. So now there is the possibility for women to make income and have established careers. In instances where the woman in a marriage is more established in the work place- earning more with continued development despite a small pregnancy period- there is no real reason why the old gender roles should remain in place. Assumptions of emotionality do have empirical basis, generally women are more emotional which leads them to being the best careers for their children. At the same time, this is not always the case and the same data supporting the differences shows this. So there is also the case where the man in a marriage is more suited to being the caregiver and homemaker.
2. The only real issue I have with hijab arguments is rooted in a misunderstanding of what it entails. For men, even beyond gaze there is the imperative to dress modestly, with specific rules. In such a sexualised world, hijab for women is liberating. There is oppression for women in terms of hijab in specific countries, but this is political and not stemming from Islam. Equally, modesty in dress for men is in my experience is consistently neglected. You will see brothers dressing in such ways that are sexualised- grey joggers, tank tops to show muscles etc. As much as men must lower their gaze, neglecting the fact women can be sexually interested in physical male features both reduces men to mindless bodies motivated entirely by sex and permits men to dress provocatively to attract women into haram situations or adultery.
3. Similar to what I said regarding hijab, why do we work from the assumption our brothers are motivated by improper sexual thoughts. The history of Adhan being made by men is powerful, Islam doesn’t base beauty and melody as female and it stands out for that. At the same time, with the global spread of Muslims today, who don’t always have masjid/mosque to play Adhan to call people to prayer, you have apps that perform that role instead. A sister performing Adhan on this technology could be used by women. And then for men for whom the struggle of thoughts that may break Wudu they can have a man. Men who are mentally strong could also mix up the person performing Adhan, with both men and women. Imagine it would be very beautiful to hear your grandmother who was there helping to raise you call you for prayer and reminding you of the family Allah has provided us to keep us on the right path.
4. We need to remember why 4 wives are permitted in Islam. During war times, the number of men is reduced and so having multiple wives allows family structures to extend to all children and women. Discussions around the libido of women in marriage to multiple men is unnecessary and supports the idea that multiple wives within Islam is to satisfy the sexual desires of the husband which is not the case. Engaging with debates surrounding polygamy from a perspective of std from multiple husbands who cant be satisfied and thus turn to sin, or constant pregnancy from multiple insistent fathers only supports the non Muslim perspective and undermines the integral role of the family and marriage within Islam.
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Their 2 big points were so easy to respond to. I’m gonna completely destroy their arguments rn because I think Jad should have gone a little more in depth.
The first point, “why don’t men have to cover themselves as much as women” is easy. Men and women are fundamentally different. Women simply do NOT get aroused by men at the same level men get by women. Men have a considerably higher sex drive than women due to the fact that they naturally have 15 TIMES more testosterone. Men are MUCH more turned on by a woman’s body than a woman is for a man. Do you ever hear about women paying to masturbate to naked pictures of men??? While how many men are out there buying onlyfans, porn, asking for nudes and all this??? This is why statistically TWICE as many men masturbate than women. Research it yourself because none of this is conjecture. If you cannot see a fundamental difference in the two sexes from this point then your lost. 15x higher testosterone is no joke, so that is why women cover up more than men. It’s based on the biological truth that men have so much testosterone that it infiltrates their mind.
But then someone might say “Oh why cant you control yourself as a man? Why do we have to wear hijab just because of how you feel?” Well first of all this is incredibly impractical at a societal level because men CANNOT just turn off their sexual instinct just to help you feel comfortable wearing revealing clothing. Islam takes care of issues from all angles. It tells men to control their desires and “lower their gaze,” and tells women to wear hijab to make it even more efficient. Islam operates at a societal level and not solely at an individual level so making sure that ALL parties contribute is what leads to a better outcome.
That lesbian girls point where she said “I’m lesbian and I don’t get turned on from seeing women in revealing clothing.” This was the most braindead statement I’ve ever heard, yes sorry to say but you are biologically a woman with 15 times less testosterone than a man. OF COURSE you won’t experience the sexual drive that a man has, and sorry but it is impossible for men to turn off their sexual drive just so that you can feel comfortable wearing less clothes. Men are always going to think sexually about women no matter what, and islam has the most efficient way to deal with this biological TRUTH.
So the people who think men and women are the same are IDIOTS. We are equal in terms of worth but NOT the same.
Their second point was “Why isn’t homosexuality okay in Islam?” Jad brought up the question, “In your worldview why is incest wrong?” And they had an absolute panic attack saying he was offensive and all this garbage. Jad didn’t do the best job at using this argument but he was on the right track. According to liberalism incest between two siblings is NOT wrong. Because with modern day birth control you can bypass the reproductive consequences so you WONT have to deal with deformed offspring. With this in mind how can we say that incest is wrong according to the liberal mindset???? Is it because “you shouldn’t have a relationship with someone you’ve known your whole life” like that black niqabi girl said? What if it’s two estranged brothers/brother+sister?? There is simply no argument a liberal can make after this point. They basically HAVE to agree with incest on an intellectual level, because with “modern day” technology you can bypass all of the previously known disadvantages of incest. This effectively makes it so that the incestuous couple is not hurting anyone so why not let them love each other??? Cause love is love right? This same concept applies to necrophillia as well. When you have sex with a dead person in private you technically aren’t hurting ANYBODY, so according to liberal ideology this should also be allowed😂 And what about these animation and graphic designers? Hypothetically there could be an extremely messed up person in the head, who makes hyper realistic animated ch1ld p*&@ to feed his disgusting fantasies. According to liberal ideology this person is allowed to make the animation AND do disgusting things with it in private. Because he technically is NOT hurting anyone since the animations aren’t real. ASTAFIRGULLAH. I can go on and on about how this liberal “live and let live ideology is wrong.
There is this thing called objective morality and no matter how much mental gymnastics liberals do, their worldview will always be flawed.
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Couldn't have said it better subhanAllah, Alhamdulillah for Islam ☝
Also the stuff about women and men being equal in islam. The ex muslims were bringing up points about things Men could do but women cant. But its funny cause no one questions things women have rights to but men dont.
Example:
- Getting Mehr
- Not havinng to provide
- Not having to fight in war
- Getting the same reward for praying at home
@@master101gaming5Yes but in contemporary times a lot of women are contributing to the household income, most brothers don’t go to the mosque to pray 5x /day and fighting in war isn’t a reality for the vast majority of Muslim men, especially those living in the West who may never have to engage in battle all their life. Your examples are more applicable to the men of the past, not today. Despite that men and women are clearly very different, physically and mentally, just as the initial comment outlined.
@@SA41959 Islam doesn't change with time , what was wrong in the past is also wrong in the present and what's right today was also right in the past in islam
And there's nowhere said in islam that women can't contribute to household , they can if they want but the husband doesn't have any rights on her income
And those muslims living in western countries don't represent islam nor an ideal muslim so don't change islam according to your own desires
You have free will to do whatever you want but if you are muslim you should acknowledge you are sinning and introspect whether i will be accountable for this action
Giving up dunia is better than giving up your akhira
It's been hours and i'm still spaming the comment section on jubilees video. To promote your video.
May Allah bless you and reward you... Ameen
Commenting on their video will just make the algorithm promote it more...
@@AyaanFarasanims 😥That is not what i wanted.
@@MuslimMessenger267
Then don't spam. Also, UA-cam might remove your comments because you are spamming
I wish you guys posted more often, really helps with my deen watching your videos, i literally started watching your old clips for nostalgia haha
Wallahi you guys are very brave and you made us proud despite how bad they tried to make you all look bad you were amazing brothers
It was so obvious something was up! I've watched way too much of your guys' content to know better. The cuts they made to make you two seem like 'bad guys' were so obvious
“How are men and women different?” 🤦♂️
I would’ve literally just been like: “Have you noticed that when you go to the beach, women are wearing bikinis, while men are not?” 🤡
My brother's nexttime u get invited just bring a camera and record the whole thing.. cause these non-muslim manupulate content so heavily
We need Rami on middle ground! I trust the audience may agree or disagree with his points but still will respect his responses, character & passion!
I find it so weird that such minded women feel offended, or degraded. I honestly being a woman I don't even want what she wants. Alhamdulillah for Islam.
@@m2543 it’s all about freedom and options, if you want to be a stay at home mom great if you don’t want kids and get a career or something in between cool.
@@M_A_R_K_23exactly and islam gives you that. A women in Islam can work and she doesnt have to provide for her household financially at all if she personally doesn’t want to and if she does she gets rewards for it.
I make comments under jubilees video to watch this video, but i think they keep deleting them😂❤
They orchestrated the entire thing against the two brothers low key
I think a video with the covered guy who called himself Kafir, would be very interesting. I would love for him to state his doubts and thoughts and for you to respond.❤
Im glad you guys made this video to clear things up
We need all three of y’all on a future jubilee debate
Akhi faiyad struggling to hold back laugh when the taha guy was speaking 😂 jazakum Allah khair brothers may Allah bless you and protect you ameen
I think your guys' mistake was choosing to have this discussion knowing you're going to be interrupted if there's a disagreement. Unless I heard you wrong. That is your mistake, Muslims should not partake in a fake discussion. If you're not allowed to disagree in conversation it's not a discussion, it's a one sided argument. You should've said, "No, I am leaving" and not participated.
It wasn't clear what the rules were before they started filming and they didn't know what would be cut out.
The guest brother on this channel was on jubilee before and he said it was different with the new assistant director and he wouldn't go on their show again.
They cut the conversation in a way to make it seem that one side is asking logical questions and the Muslims are struggling to provide coherent answers.
These people can create false narratives just from the editing of the footage. That is why it is better to go on a show where you can have the full video afterwards. Almost 3 hours of conversation got cut to 40 minutes.
@lightkira4119 if I heard correctly I'm pretty sure he said they were told the new rules before recording. And even if they did change the rules when they started he still should've left
Jad-“In no way whatsoever am I gonna blatantly disrespect you, for the way that your living your life, just because I, deep down inside, reject your lifestyle” 💀
Also Jad “we’ll then what’s the difference between two consenting men that lay together two consenting brothers who lay together?”
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@@porter9494Jad wasn’t disrespecting nothing he was telling you how we genuinely view it. Not that hard to understand lmao
these ppl are clout chasers
Oh my god,I just get bored & pissed off instantly,can't stand to watch stupid people talk (ex Muslims) Even if I want to watch this video
yet you commented.........
@@HaduhasI meant the ex Muslims . I'm a Muslim,I meant I can't stand these simple stuff being debated while they're so obvious and clear. Even though I want to watch both videos (jubilee and this one) , I know I'm gonna get pissed off so I'm just gonna leave a like here and leave,that was my main point. I watched half an hour of this video and God... I'm just glad for Islam. Can't imagine being like these confused people.
asalamu alaikum wa rahamtulahi wa baraktu .oh yeah, i absolutly agree i decided to stop watching the jubilee video as it was annoying me and was quiet pointless for me to waste my time on such bias and useless content. however, in sha Allah this video will be more informative. My apologies for the confusion . May Allah guide us all in Sha Allah@@Edameda_mmori
As salam walaikum, I think you guys should have edited the stream to at least blur the woman with her bare chest exposed. By reposting the Jubilee video with all of the women displayed, especially with the one lady mentioned before, it is simply not enough to put a disclaimer in the beginning. It’s an extremely big fitna to have the awra of a woman (especially her bare chest) for a majority muslim audience to possibly see.
We shouldn’t post videos with women displayed in general but it is very disheartening to see that you guys didn’t edit those parts.
Maybe they just didn’t have enough time to edit it
Let’s always not point at wrong and have some حسن الظن بالناس 😊
I would have blurred the Muslimah especially because not observing proper attire (for any Muslim) is tabarruj a major sin which has a consequence in the after life. At least if they blurred it for the Muslimah it allows her transgression in that instance to be redeemed
Its harder to blur than you think, especially under a time crunch. Their intentions were good although their execution wasn’t on par with the islamic recommendation. May Allah show us mercy and forgive us.
@@littlenaro1700 With all due respect and I do not mean this with any evil intent, but it does not matter how long it takes. Even if It would take 1 year for them to edit it, they still would have to do so if they want to post the video. They have a responsability for their viewers. Her chest is wayyyyy too exposed. At the end of the day, they are still sharing something haram, and how long it takes to avoid it still does not eliminate the fact that they have to do it cause it is haram and may lead to someone watching adult content or even worse because of what they expose. they talked about lowering youe gaze in the video, well you should avoid posting something that is directly against it.
OMG.....wtf. So women must cover up because men can't control themselves. Jesus....middle ages.
53:15 yeah she’s a revert, but so am I, and I have never said anything like this sister said. I have LGBT parents (I’m adopted) and I still accept the Islamic mandates concerning homosexuality.
Being a revert is not an excuse for saying whatever you want about Islam. But I have noticed that many reverts are overly conciliatory about things in Islam they just truly do not understand, because they love Islam but they take it upon themselves to do Islamic apologetics full of inaccuracies and ignorance. I’ve had many a revert become defensive with me when I correct them on something in Islam, saying “well I’m a revert! I can’t just automatically know all of this and be perfect, I’m from a non-Muslim society!” And then it gets really awkward when I inform them that I’m also a revert from non-Muslim society lol.
The ignorant posturing and apologetics done by SOME liberal revert Muslims comes from a place of just lacking basic Islamic knowledge, they admit as much when cornered. Funny thing that these are the Muslims to jump on board with the ex-Muslim arguments. It tells you a lot.
regarding "those your right hands possess..." you have to actually take them on as a wife and give them the rights of a wife if you're going to engage with her like that, i.e. you can't just sleep with them and have your way with them. You have to marry them and give them their rights. This in itself is a form of freeing of "slaves," which carries huge rewards and is highly encouraged in Islam.
“You can either ‘willingly’ marry me or remain me slave, the ‘choice’ is yours”…
So the way you free the slave is by giving them the “choice” to marry and sleep with you… even if she is already married
@@KushWings it’s consensual. Nowhere does it say to force anyone. As a matter of fact, the Qur’an strictly states that there is no compulsion in the religion. You cannot force anyone to do anything. Slaves used to live in the same household and ate and dressed the same as their “owners.” Thus Islam takes into account that natural attractions may occur between men and women and if that were to happen, “there is no blame upon you,” so long as you give them their rights and marry them, giving dowry, etc.
@@Top_o_da_foodDChain again… someone with no self authority/imprisoned/slaved can’t give consent…
@@KushWingsyes they can. Ur thinking of atlentic slave trade not the rights islam gives to slaves. They are more like employees. But youd know that if you digged a little deeper.
@@KushWings slavery in Saudi Arabia, pre-Islamic and during the earliest parts of Islam, was not the same slavery you were taught about American slavery. In other words, don’t assume it was like what you saw in Roots or your middle school textbooks. Also, do you know that “slavery” is still around in other countries around the world? I’m not talking about your 9-5 or the typical sweat shop, which are forms of slavery, but “slavery” in the sense that servants live and preside with the homeowners in a section of the home and serve the homeowner’s family 24 hrs around the clock. They are not beaten and chained up. They are not lashed in public and sold in open markets. All “slavery” is not your American history. America is not the world. Try not to be so ignorant and arrogant all at once. It’s the worst combination you can have. Also, towards the end of The Prophet Muhammad’s (PBUH) life, slavery had been virtually abolished under Islam. Please go and learn something before opening your keyboard and typing up your ignorant thoughts.
Bro I commend you guys for keeping it calm even though they tried to elicit something bad, if were in your position I would've probably done something stupid from all the frustration, you should take snippets from this video, like the girl who was previously going to play like a liberal Muslim, and how the guy said he was never a Muslim and put it in a short video titled "how jubilee lies to their viewers", and for the Muslims please just stop giving attention to the people who are trying to trash on Islam, there better things to do.
May Allah accept from you and reward you for defending Islam against these liberal morons.
Agreed
Calm my ass jad looked like he was ab to shit his pants with those scrunched up eyebrows 💀yall are so indoctrinated that you can't view other ppls perspectives w out fear or arrogance.
Lol
As a woman, convert to Islam alhamdulillah. I am sorry for the first girl, ex Muslim. Imagine throwing the prospect of Jenna away, because you are jealous man can marry four wifes ans you can't. Or because you cannot give the athan....😣 may Allah protect us from this way of thinking
Janet was from Iran she was most likely a shia rafidi never was muslim to begin with
Aameen! Seriously why compare what men and women have to do anyways? If anything Islam is easier for women… all we have to do is focus on pleasing our husband, our parents and better ourselves in our religion. men have to go to the masjid every prayer, have to provide for their families financially, have to go out for jihad etc
Just imagine a woman marrying 4 men i mean how is that even possible she is like a prostitute
She been brainwashed by western female movement that tells her she isnt same as man if she didnt do everything he does which means acting like man etc etc which literally disgusting and hate against woman hood
I definitely can't accept my husband sleeping with another woman.
Please invite Kafir to the show.
He seems like an authentic guy❤
he seems like he would need more information about the tafseer of certain verses and other hadiths
Indeed. May Allah Subhanallahu Taala grants His hidayah to that person.
No way he is disrespecting Allah's word's by using that name sarcastically he deserves h@llfire
Only after he releases the video he said he would on his channel so we can know his opinion.
Never thought I'd see these 3 different things in one sentence -
Kafir, authentic and love emoji
What a time to be alive!
You guys did amazing mashaAllah. Thank you for providing the full context ❤
Glad to see this video come out aoon after the jubilee one.. i legit thought how has jad and faiyad not been able to give a decent response because i know how knowledgable they are!? But knowing they literally squashed 4 hours to 40 mins and cut the video in such a way to make islam look stupid. To hell with Jubilee. May their channel never be a success and may we see its downfall. By Allah they will be questioned.
May Allah protect the Ummah, guide us and always be strong throughout these trials we are being tested with.
Ps i urge all muslims to never join that show.
How ironic is it that his name is Kaafir!?
Do you genuinely think that it's his actual name? Lol.
That’s not his real name
nah jubilee needs to be boycotted lowkey, theyre too biased.. and im a Christian.
yes istg if they bring christians vs ex christians it'll be just as bad if not worst
@@sayouvlr and not to mention we’ll probably see jubilee supporters and fans kind of attacking/criticizing the faith..
I guess this is what happens with biased channels
@@ItsSimplyAless yup its already been happening
Jubilee is a joke
It was always a joke.
Can’t say that I’m surprised considering it’s Jubilee 😂 keep up the great work brothers!
we need more people like you guys.- may Allah bless you and grant you jannah
This is what the Bible says about hijab :
For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head
And which book in the bible did you get this from?
@@timmymannies6888 1 Chronicles, 11:5 to 6
@@timmymannies6888do your research
@@mr.knockknock3705 I know which book he quoted it from and the context is not fully with that one verse alone. 1 Corinthians is all about Paul writing a letter to the Corinth Church about the law that God has ordered. The verse talks about women covering their head while praying not about a permanent hijab like the Quran talks. Read the verse before and do your "research".
@@timmymannies68881 Corinthians ch 11
If feminists acknowledge that the sexes are different and therefore women should be treated “equitably” as opposed to “equally” and there is room for variances in law to account for said differences, then where do we draw the line? EVERY instance of different treatment could be chalked up to different nature/creation of the sexes. EVERY difference in gender role could be attributed to and explained away by reference to difference in nature/creation between the sexes.
Why should women be primarily socialized to take on maternal caretaker roles as opposed to men, who should be socialized for bread-winning roles? Difference in nature. Why should women dress a certain way as distinct from men? Difference in nature. Why should women be barred from becoming imams while men fill that role? Difference in nature. Why should the role of khalifa and state leadership be reserved for men and not women? Difference in nature.
All gender differences can be rationalized in this way, which is a nightmare for feminist philosophy. So to avoid it, feminists have to insist on mirror equality, but that also causes conflicts and incoherence, as we saw.
This is one among many of the conceptual problems that plagues feminist thought, but Islam and the Sharia are completely free of these problems. - Muslim Skeptic.
I hope you realize that not every woman wants to be a mother and not every woman wants to get pregnant. There are various kinds of women as well. I don't have any issue with women choosing to wear a headscarf over their heads by themselves, but they shouldn't be forced into it or shouldn't be killed abused or harrassed for not choosing to wear one. Also, just because someone is a woman doesn't mean equal opportunities must be snatched from her, infact women are capable of doing many things these days which societies previously deemed as impossible for women previously such as being a political leader. Also, women these days have more opportunities in terms of being financially, socially and economically independent hence women are almost in every profession and they are doing it just perfectly. Women too want to have social, economical and financial freedom and independence regardless of what women choose to wear.
HOW MANY OF US SAY ALHAMDULILLAH I AM MUSLIM😊☝️🕋
Re wearing modestly, I tell hubby that 'I'm your wife, not everyone's wife. Why do I want to show my body or give anyone a chance to admire it to anyone other than you?!'
It honestly feels more safe to wear revealing clothes at home, because only my husband will see me.
These women want to fight against sexual harassment or being sexually objectified, and do all sorts of things to fight it except using one of the most effective protection i.e. to wear modestly. It's not 100% full proof so in Islam there are other protective measures too, like lowering gaze, gender separation...
They want to solve the same problem that we want to solve, but with different solutions. Just compare societies, which has lesser levels of sexual harrassment?
Who cares if I can't wear whatever I want outside?! It's not as important as feeling safe when I'm out and about as a woman!
im not married and in the past there has been times where i felt tempted to put on heavy makeup to look pretty for guys my age, but the idea of old men or weirdos with freaky fetishes looking at me dolled up with lust just makes me shrivel up in disgust so i just dont understand how these women can be so comfortable walking out half naked when they know theyll be catching the attention of men they dont desire themselves. just makes no sense
regardless what jubilee cut out, it was immensely disappointing to see every single person in that video completely closed-minded. definitely hard to watch the video when someone is not mature enough to hear someone else out
The 2 people in this video were willing to listen.
MashaAllah. It is always heartwarming to see people in this modern society hold on to good values.
I coment on the jubille video to watch the3muslim podcast and they deleted my coment two times
they banned the word i think sucks wallahi
Lool comment it in a non obvious way so it don’t gets deleted! Comment like the three (3) Muslims or smth
@@ramialkhaleel ok brother
Me too!
Imagine how often a woman would be pregnant if she had many husbands. That would be detrimental for her
She would be treated as a sex machine😂.
You can talk about how many kids you want total get tubes tied other birth control I guess
You can only be pregnant one pregnancy at a time. Technically you are just as likely to be pregnant by one man you have intimacy with every night as a different man every single night....or the same man once a week or month or 3 months than a different man on the same timescales. If you have 1 husband who wants intimacy every night, or 2 that are happy with once a week or fortnight, then 2 once a fortnight is probably the better odds. In reality, you could just choose to avoid the fertile period whether its 1 husband or 4, to limit risk of pregnancy.
I'm a woman and not even 2 seconds after the full view of the panel, I saw one of the reasons we are to be modest. As the Prophet (PBUH) said - clothes hide the good AND the bad!! Of course I'm paraphrasing.
Just when I think Jubilee can’t disappoint me any further, they outdo themselves. 🤦🏻♀️ So ridiculous. These people have zero integrity, including the guy who went ahead and accepted the role anyway.