A Song of Ice and Fire: A Frey in the Snow Part 1
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- We go the end of a Dance with Dragons - who killed Little Walder? The answer may impact everything going on in the North.
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"Had he lived he would have grown up to be a Frey"
One of the best lines of the series
House Frey wyman is awesome are you kidding me??
My favorite line of Dance
House Frey I think he's playing his own game. still objectively a monster though
your wrong, Wyman hada deep hatred for the freys because they KILLED his son, so hes killing them. Is it right? no. But its understandable
teddy caliendo that's right, can't believe I forgot about that. even more reason to sympathize with him!
There are 1,770,000 words in A Song of Ice and Fire.
"Had he lived, he would have grown up to be a Frey" are the best 12 words in the series.
House Frey has bad apples but man, their whole House wasn't in on it, albeit most of them were but still.... 😅
@@thalmoragent9344that's the thing that show got all wrong. When Arya kills the entire frey family, it's shown to be badass and cool af.
But if you think about it, it's just another classic case of judging someone by their last name.
Cause c'mon, there were more than 100 freys not all of them could be cruel.
Ps: But still I agree with the op fuck the freys
Nah it's a very cruel thing to say about a dead child.
Best line is Lady Dustin parted her lips in a thin, feral smile. “The north remembers, Frey.”
as he absolutely destroys every sausage in front of the dead child while spit flies out his mouth as he celebrates his death. I still remember the joy the first time I read it.
Little Walder - "Neither of us will be Lord of the Crossing, stupid"
Big Walder "I will."
Little Walder (but that would mean I'd have to be ...)
Only if he was still alive at that time
"though MAYHAPS this was a blessing. Had he lived, he would have grown up to be a FREY."
Lord of the crossing game where you try to slip in the word MAYHAPS into a sentence.
Followed closely by a savage burn.
This is mayhaps my favorite line in all of asoiaf
@@zacrusk5274 I love you and want to spend the rest of my days with you, zacrusk5274.
Did Wyman Manderly just win the Lord of the Crossing? He did manage to sneak in "mayhaps" in a sentence...
Manderly said 'mayhaps' just before Hosteen jumps at him. Do you think it's a nod to lord of the crossing?
A Very Good Man I thought that was where it was going next too...
Thank god I'm not the only one who picked up on that
Well spotted
i thought this too
That was definitely said by Wyman on purpose
I always loved how my boy Fat Wyman slid a 'mayhaps' into that quote on Growing Up Frey. Wyman is known for choosing his words wisely and I assume he amused the shit out of himself with this one.
tl;dr hypothesis:
Ramsay killed Little Walder because he wants to use the tension between the Freys and Manderlys to cover up the upcoming murder of Roose's wife, a Frey carrying a child that would, when born, be ahead of him in succession (since Ramsay is still a bastard-born child, even if legitimate). As someone lower in succession himself, Big Walder would know this and probably conspired with Ramsay, hoping to use his brute force and higher position in some way to propel himself (or more likely his family) into power and rule over the Twins.
CalvinDWalker the hero we needed
In the video game Crusader Kings 2 in the game of thrones mod legitimised bastards are ahead of newborns actually
James Smith, plus why wouldn't he also kill Big Walder if it was just to kill witnesses. He used Big Walder to start the conflict between the Freys and Manderlys
There isn't no tl;dw when it comes to Preston
Which would still make this child dangerous to Ramsay, since a natural heir of Roose is more of a threat to Ramsay's political future than any other established political forces.
This sounds like CSI: Winterfell.
Not to be out done by:
CSI: Meereen
CSI: Storm's End
and of course CSI: KL
Timo Cruz my favorite is CSI: KL the Kings Landing riots episode was so interesting.
I can get behind this line of television show
@@cameronjadewallace NCIS: Dorne was a good series too.
Excitement for TWOW:
Because it's a new book in this incredible series - 51%.
Because it'll give Preston scope for 100 new theory videos - 49%.
winds will never come
MsJavaWolf Have faith little one
@@MsJavaWolf Winds may become but Spring will never see the light
bruh moment
@@mrevilducky both will come in it's own time
The Theon chapters in ADWD are the best written chapters. I' m so glad Theon will be in Winds!
FUN FACT from a Dany chapter in AGOT:
When Drogo returns from his hunt with the body of the big white lion he says to her, “I shall make you a cloak of its skin.”
No idea what that means, but George and his parallels are always interesting.
Possible forshadowing of Dothraki, destruction of Lannister army. I haven't read the book, but as you probably know, it's in the show.
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Maybe a foreshadowing for Tyrion? He's not big (but even a small man can cast a large shadow), and his hair is "so blond it seems white". Maybe Drogon will kill him after Tyrion tries to manipulate Dany from TWOW onwards...
@@jennifera.4511 …or, Drogo kills a big white lion, skins it, and makes a cloak from its skin. A cloak similiar to a wolf skin cloak, or perhaps even a bearskin cloak. A white lion, aka an albino lion, is probably rare but not unheard of. And one can assume killing a wild lion in a manner that leaves its skin in a good enough condition to make a cloak from is a tough task, so making said lion an albino makes the cloak that much more rare, thus, an even more precious gift.
Or mayhaps it doesn't mean anything
Y'know what really bakes my noodle; why do the spearwives hold Lord Eddard and his words in such high esteem?! "You have no right to mouth Lord Eddard's words. Not you. Not ever. After what you did-"
DING DING DING - this is the real question, this is a doozey of a question.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 theres this theory that she is the daughter of a northern lord(i cant recall his name) whose daughter was stolen by a wildling.
@@amadakram5722 Aye, Crowsfood Umber, iirc. They both use the same parlance and she has the Umber look.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 And Umber was outside waiting for Theon and "Arya", just as though they'd been communicating the plan...
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 It seems like one of those things GRRM will never explicitly explain, but the subtext is enough to confirm it. He does that a lot with tertiary characters.
Big Walder will sit the iron throne, just you wait.
Lady Dustin is clearly the most mysterious character we know of in Winterfell, She actually gives the Freys Horses, Grey Colts, and then goes onto out and out threaten aenys Frey in regards to the Red wedding. So why the Horses, she clearly dislikes all Freys, To gain favour with the boys or the Boltons? unlikely, she doesn't seem a woman to concern herself with empty courtesies, she knows where she stands in the politics of the north, she's in the Bolton Camp but unhappy about the fact, feeling she was forced to by the dishonour Ned did her and her family. She is also seen calming the Manderlys during her time in Winterfell and not outwardly trying to increase tension, but could the Horses be a misdirect?. One thing we do hear about Lady Dustin is that she is a a woman who knows how to nurse a grievance, such as kin being slain at a certain wedding perhaps, With Freys present in the north, anyone of the northern houses could be to blame.
4:31 he calls little Walder big Walder after saying how we should be very careful not to confuse them I love this video
I thought Manderly's explanation about what happened to the three Frey's was some of the author's most clever writing.
>Need to wake up in 5 hours
>New Preston Jacobs video
>Who needs sleep.
ROFL the editing is hilarious, for example at !5:25 with the shaking pics representing Little Walder dancing with Spearwives...
15:18
Little Walder's dance with the spearwives is truly majestic.
That fighting and dancing animation, it's joyous. Chad Summerchild cameo 20:41
Praying for the rogue prince to have something so with this
Preston Jones honestly, that might be the most underrated thing in all of PJ's videos. That shit is hilarious 😂
Genetics of War and Dragons
agreed i love daemon now just because That song is now burnt in my head
Does anyone know the name of that song? I tried to find it but no success :(
+David Bodor it's an iMovies theme sound. I stumbled across it and contemplated doing a loop of it because it's still hilarious to me. Hopefully daemon will have more cameos as someone suggested.
what about lady dustin? she disappears by the same time of the murder
That is a big mystery. I may talk about that in part 2.
Barbrey Dustin is more than she appears to be, that is true.
great! more about the hooded man, perhaps?
I would terribly love with you would comment about Bran Vras's Huis Clos, i'm reading it and it seems that'was a big inspiration for you
*CHAD* is in the service of white harbor!??
He gets around. :)
Queen in the North.
Knight errantry is a pretty important value in my frat, bro
@@dragonnsv9710 more like the North in the Queen..... I’ll see myself off the nearest cliff.
Preston Dance-For-Me, the dancing animation was greatly appreciated. As always the video is intriguing and well thought out. Waiting with the patience of Super Sleuth Ned confronting Cersei for part 2.
Yo these intro's are so unnecessary, but I love every second of them.
Aron Mathew really sets the tone for me personally
shut up a-a-ron
@ Alec Jacques--- I wonder how many will see what you did there.
"Preston Jacobs has uploaded a new video" the only words better than that are "Sweetrobin is getting his own spinoff show"
The most confounding part of the video(btw, spoiler alert)
Ramsay has a plan
Honestly Ramsay is pretty crafty for a bloodthirsty psycho
696190 ramsay has actually pulled off quite a few plans thus far. brutish, sloppy, shortsighted plans.......but plans nonetheless
Harsh, his plan to take over Winterfell was pretty smart (if kinda lucky).
Agreed. I always thought he was an agent of chaos.
Jayasree Sreenivasan you do know that the Joker was bullshitting Two-Face with that "agent of chaos"rant right? Any forethought put into a course of action constitutes a plan. rigging a hospital to explode to cover up the kidnapping of a D.A. or packing Bran and Rickons clothes and a flaying knife to help convince Theon to use the millers boys as decoys. Those are plans. Chaos is random.
Hey Preston. I've been asking this for a long time. are you planing to make a video about Patchface?!
TheWishmaster yes...yes.. so much yes...this needs to be done.
That shit might be too weird, even for Preston.
TheWishmaster it NEEDS to happen. Maybe even combine it with Varys-Mereman theory into Deep Below series
ouuuu I wanna see that
I know I know Oh Oh Oh
great vid, lot's of details, and I recall being effectively thrown off the trail in the first read of this plot until Ramsay "silenced" his own man, that's pretty straight forward - haven't a clue why he did it though, look forward to part 2
I think Roose is the killer, it gave him a perfect reason to send out the Frey and White Harbour troops to either kill each other or weaken Stannis' army while being destroyed in the process, either way it ends with Roose benefiting. Wyman Manderly is the closest thing to a rival for control of the North that Roose has after the Red Wedding (the Ironborn could have qualified for this also except they're on fighting in the Reach and Slaver's Bay) so the destruction of their forces helps secure House Bolton's position as the rulers of the North and the Freys are Rivermen, their loss impacts Roose very little even if they border the North because of their hostility with the Crannogmen and their inability to pass the Neck as a result (add to this Lord Walder's reputation as "the late Lord Frey" probably affecting the reputations of most Freys) makes them worthless allies north of the Neck.
Now consider the food situation in Winterfell and the defensive advantages it confers upon Roose's army that make it unlikely the Stannis would be able to win by assaulting the castle and is it any wonder why Roose would consider aleviating his food shortage by sacrificing part of his army would be beneficial especially if he can choose which parts of his army are sacrificed.
That last point brings up an important question if Roose's army has too many mouths to feed for the season (and who else would consider the seasonal conditions more than Northmen) why did he call so many bannermen? He needed to show the other Northern lords that he called the shots and prevent them from changing their minds and switching over to side with Stannis, that's less likely to happen if they are in the assembled army and control only a small minority of forces in that army. If they decide to rebel their army (as well as the lord most likely) will be slaughtered and their power will be broken, which is a high cost to pay for a change of heart. Roose couldn't decide to reduce the number of his own personal troops he would send as well because he needed to maintain that he was the strongest force in the castle to maintain control, especially with the anger over the Red Wedding a moment of weakness on his part with so many potential enemies around could cost him everything,
Corey Micallef also rids Ramsey of his squire which may force him into a mistake prone rage
Preston’s right about this one, the Freys were loyal to Roose, it was definitely Ramsay
Cat saying "It would seem they are both named Walder" made me cackle too much
I was guessing Roose. I never gave Ramsay that much credit although he is definitely capable of it. I also suspected it was Lady Dustin in an attempt to draw out Bolton or Frey forces to face Stannis at a battlefield of his choosing instead of letting them wait out Stannis. If anyone is helping Stannis, the biggest thing they can do for him is draw people out of Winterfell because Stannis doesn't stand a chance trying to take Winterfell by force. Manderly would also be aware of this fact which is why he openly antagonized Frey knowing Roose would have to act in order to keep the peace.
I liked the animation of Little Walder and the spearwives dancing, very nice.
I have no idea why Roose; who is not a fool or sentimental hasn't had Ramsey put down.
He told Reek that he knew Ramsey would kill all of his true born sons, but that would be for the best, because he knew he wouldn't live much longer and "boy lords" were a disgrace for their family name, so I guess he would rather let Ramsey do his thing. Like the other lady said, also to Reek, Roose doesn't love or hate anybody, everything is just a game, he is just a cruel psycho.
@@Jess-yo9rt Barbary Dustin
I just saw that painting of the dice players in the national gallery in Dublin- beautiful piece!
Love that Chad Summerchild cameo
Please keep making these types of intros, they're brilliant! (as is the rest of the videos)
I swear you and I are linked telepathically Preston. the last 5 videos you have posted, I have woken up and thought "a new Preston video would be awesome", and bamm! there is a new video
ProjectAwesome1 glass candles are burning
ProjectAwesome1 how many eyes does lord blood raven have?
Milhouse Van Houten A thousand eyes and one
You know the saying, a Frey in the snow is worth two at a wedding.
That's a great cliff hanger. Damn Preston, you're getting savage.
The best I had was that Roose has motive and had a catspaw do the murder to accelerate Frey/Manderley tension to give him an excuse to boot them
Just a sidenote: On my first reading when Robb arrives at the Twins for the Red Wedding, Lord Frey threw in the word mayhaps when first addressing him. I immediately knew something was up when he said that.
Well that and in book 2 during danys visions(when she drink that blue flower stuff,sorry forgot the name)one of the doors is a wedding feast with trout and a king with a dire wolf head sewn on the kings head,so book 2 hint the red wedding pretty big
@@billybobsac4421 Shade of the Evening
A brilliant "Who Dunnit" left on a CLIFFHANGER!
20:47 what is Chad Summerchild, Queen in the North, doing in Winterfell fighting for the Manderlys?
Can I just say how much I love that intro? That's clever and just awesome.
Tonight, a comedian died in Winterfell
Been rewatching your videos again and again and I must say, I miss the musical openings.
Dude.... dropping tin foil like that and leaving it as a cliffhanger is just mean.
I’ve always wondered if those deaths in winterfell could be orchestrated by someone seeking retribution for those taken from her. It’s clear she has very little love for the Starks and has some negative dispositions towards many a house in the north. Lady Dustin has lost so much and dealt with enough crap to choke a maggot, her disapproval of Ramsey and hatred for Ned Stark is a dangerous balance because “The North Remembers”, and and dead men tell no secret. She wouldn’t be the one to get caught of course, that’s what lowborn commoners are for. After all... Chaos is a Ladder
Always thought it was odd that he was found by the ruins of the old Keep, which is of course just above where the Stark Crypts are.
This is pretty irrelevant to the video, but I just read that eunuchs (according to older sources, we don't make them anymore) don't go bald. If their already bald then they'll stay that way but they'll never go bald after castration. Does anyone else think that this might point to Varys shaving his head to cover up some sort of hidden identity? Sorry if this is all stuff y'all knew already.
The watchmen intro is priceless
Great video Preston! Got me so hype for Part 2 and rethinking about a scene I had written off years ago.
I'm only halfway through the video but I want to just say two things.
1) Big Walder is clearly Petyr Baelish warging into a child because god damn he's a sneaky little bastard.
2) Aegon Bloodborn IS THE HYPEST NAME IN THE HISTORY OF WESTEROS. MAKE THIS MAN THE KING.
What if Aegon Bloodborn is actually the most likable Frey of them all, and the only reason he's the black sheep is because he's openly a criminal?
When Ramsey dies in the books, I'm taking a shot for who ever does it.
4:31 Preston you fell for it. You conflated Big and Little Walder.
I don't get how Walder Frey could have outlived seven of his eight wives. Unless they all died in childbirth, accident or illness, were only left with foul play on the part of Walder Frey, his motive seems to be family ambition to marry in to as many houses as possible. House Frey is seen as upstarts by houses that go back thousands of years, where as House Frey only goes back Six-Hundred and Walder seems determined to remove this stigma set on him. It's hard to judge if this ambition was always in the family based on the Mystery Knight, where were only introduced to Walder Frey as a young kid, his older sister and his father and his main detractor Hoster Tully had not been born yet.
8:45 maybe big W thinks his uncle already rules the twins as he seems to be making most of the important decisions and intense to take over as from him
A great start to my Saturday; to wake and find a Preston analysis waiting for me! Pour my coffee, get some cereal and watch.
15:18 dem dancing skillz
9:25 😆😆😆😆 Jojen's face is so funny, guess he doesn't like frogs on his head.
Preston love the in depth of the videos, have you ever thought about doing other in depth on like Lord of the Rings, star wars, etc.?
star wars and depth don't go together
concustduck well they do have books series but I don't think they are considered canon.
Joseph Ross Yeah that's basically what the non-canon experts channel is based on.
Joseph Ross Westworld when season 2 hits would be awesome
OMG i just noticed that when little Walder's body was brought in Wyman Manderly says mayhaps like the game little and big Walder would play idk if it is a subtle cue that Manderly knows more about the Walder boys or that was a GRRM doing some "it comes full circle" story telling
LMFAO when i saw Jinglebell in the succession names in front of big walder!
Preston is in his prime right now, pumping out videos left and right. Enjoy it people
One thing Preston forgot to mention is that Manderly snuck in the word "Mayhaps".
Also, why in the Picture of Big Walder does he have the most Hench sideburns when he's 8?
I'm really digging the openings to the new videos.
That is quite the murder mystery.
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Ramsay probably did it or made Big Walder do it in front of him.
As the story currently stands, Big Walder is 22nd in line to rule the Twins.
I was not suspecting a cliffhanger! How have I not learned! You are the best Preston, Gracias Señor!
Your work deconstructing and untangling the Freys is top notch. Reminds me of what The Meereenese Blot did for Dany's storyline.
I wonder how many Freys there were before Walder started repopulating the planet. Was it a big family _before_ Walder, or just a normal sized fam? 🏰
Honestly, probably the latter. Every Frey has like 50 kids 😂
People criticize Preston saying: "You think there's a conspiracy behind everything in A Song of Ice and Fire?"
I say to them: "Have you read any of GRRM's work? Because that's pretty much how it is.
Have you read about the War of the Roses? Same
Love that Bob Dylan cover. Guess I'm gonna check them out 👌
Preston you really open my eyes to how amazing Game of thrones is, If only the show was this interesting.
As is often, you've blown me away, I'm just rereading these chapters right now, hopefully I'll be more prepared for your part 2.
I love how Chad was fighting with the Manderlys in the lil scuffle xD
Lady Wylla... there's that name again. Wylla.
I wonder if she was named in honor of Wyman, or as a subtle nod to Jon Snow's 'mother'.
Also, the intro song is very apt for this moment in time...
Preston was so bright eyed and bushy tailed before season 5.
20:42 Didn't know Chad Summerchild fought for house Manderly. Well Sommerfell IS "on the Mander".
I love these murder mysteries!
Good old fashioned theory vids. The best of Preston.
I love these Frey videos.
Yea!! Thank you for doing this murder mystery. It wasn't until you mentioned Luton that I remembered being a little confused about why he had been injured in that fight. Great video 😊
I must admit, i mixed up the size and name on big and small Walder more than once watching this.
So Manderly is the lord of the crossing now since he sneaked in mayhaps!
The intro is so good
A new Preston video? 'Tis a good day indeed.
Murder of ravens? Isn't it?
Murder of crows, conspiracy of ravens. Though, GRRM does sometimes call raven group a murder, for some reason.
Is it not murder of crows?
"For some reason" hmmmmm
I thought that over a certain number of Ravens it was a murder and under that it was a conspiracy.
Preston Jacobs damm GRRM, always confusing us!
freezing point of blood is -2° to -3° C. it would probably take about a half hour for it to get there / once the body is discovered there's an alert it could take between 7 and 20 minutes for the blood to freeze
Is the reason for the Frey killing is, he knows about bran and Rickon are not dead instead it's 2 Miller's boys. Not sure abt it, he did accompany on the hunt with theon and Ramsey but I'm not sure he knows that secret. Can't wait for part 2.
Anybody else think that the fan art at the beginning is pretty cool. That is a lot of detail.
13:25 he does, chaos is a ladder remember, and this seems like a pretty destabilizing move against manderlys and if Bolton decided it was them, the freys could be empowered and gain more favour and maybe after stannis is defeated (which won't happen so it's all just for nothing anyway) distrust against the manderlys could spill over and their lands seized, and the freys could gain some land along with others.
And it also looks like they were just waiting for an excuse to attack manderlys cause little walder is just not important at all.
4:30 You meant to say "and his son LITTLE Waldur", right? Just checking, cause you literally just said you were going to be extra careful.
Now this is some good work. Everything backed up by facts without any wild assumptions. Can't wait for part 2.
what if Big Balder takes the power in the Frey army and then join Stanis along with the Manderlyes. Then they spead false rumors about kiling Stanis and somehow atack Winterfell together , using the Suprise. Then Stanis gives him the Twins for the good service . Thats how Big Walder becomes owner of the Twins .
Your videos always brings me joy..