Derek Roddy's Double Bass Technique - Drum Lesson (Drumeo)
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Derek Roddy is one of the quickest speed metal players in the business, so getting him to breakdown his double bass technique for us was one of our top priorities when he came out to our studio. He discusses the main muscles he engages, his foot positioning, and other tips to help you achieve those top speeds.
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PLEASE try to bring in Danny Carey for a full lesson, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean, unless it would delay the new Tool album that he may or may not be working on... but PLEEEEEEEEEASE
Please invite the almighty Dirk Verbeuren !!!!
Is there any music sheet for that?
Get Hannes Grossman.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LUKE HOLLAND LESSON?
i thought derek did that swinging back & forth dance on the pedals. ..🤔
One of the finest DM drummers of our generation. I, Monarch was released in 2005 by Hate Eternal (check it out) and it was defiantly a game-changer in not only extreme metal drumming but in creativity which is a quality Derek always has promoted and possessed. Just listen to the title track intro and you'll see (there is a video from studio recordings, so watch that primarily) what I mean manifested... At one point Derek was routinely doing 250-260bpm (I really miss those speed tempo's) but he said he got over the speed thing and you'll notice in recent recordings he shies away and I think is more 220bpm - ohh, he started using heel-toe and asked him and he states he can reach those speeds (which a lot of drummers utilise heel-toe as you can reach higher tempo's in a shorter period of time, depending on person).
Enough from me. Cheers. :)
I was listening to that album and found this video.
He makes it looks easy! That's greatness.
Please invite Chris coleman with the new sq1 kit :)
Have Tomas Haake on with a polyrhythm lesson!
Yes
BRING RICHARD CHRISTY PLEEEAAASE!!!
Could you please invite chad smith?
They should have gabe from drum beats online on drumeo
This was the exact technique what my foot naturally adopts when I start my double bass drumming...... I thought it was the wrong technique I'm practising........ But now I know this is also a technique....
Chris Coleman, Ronald Bruner Jr, Matt halpern.
Does having a really tight setting on the bass drum help?
Tony Lancer yes. The higher the spring tension the more rebound you get.
For me it helps enormously with playing fast single strokes. However I feel it makes fast doubles a lot harder, but then again I have my tension so high that I can put the whole weight of my leg on the pedal and there's still a 5-10 cm distance from the beater to the drum head ... xP.
depends on your technique. if you're heavy footed, then high tension works, but if you're trying to get quick response from the pedals, then the lowest tension allows the pedal to work with you, & not fight against your footing.
Мне даже не интересно
Thanks Derek. Just that one piece of information, defining your technique, was helpful for me.
Cheers,
Rad
Thanks Derek! I met you in 03 on the road and you shared nothing but love
Love derek best death metal drummer and it works
İts much more harder without a longboard
tibet caglar not at all
Ismael Luna i tried both of them dude
The double technique he does in particular is easier with a longboard...
it's a cool trick, but still takes a lot of practice and (most of all) understanding.
I would love to see Nic Petterson the drummer for the Australian band Northlane on one of these
good stuff
Drumeo, where is the lesseon from thursday - Dafnis Prieto: A World Of Rhythmic Possibilities (DRUM LESSON)? I couldn't watch the live show, and after that it was down.
We'll be releasing it on UA-cam! :)
When you invite already Travis Barker??????????
How do your shins not burn when you play heels down?
"when i lost my bet" anyone?
Noise
TOMAS HAAKE!!!
Can almost guarantee you he's not playing 'from the hip flexors'. The role of the hip flexor is to flex the thigh at the hip joint (i.e. lift it up when you're sitting down). It can lift your thighs up so you're better able to play heel up, but it physically cannot push the leg down into the pedal when you're sat down so it is very unlikely to be the 'driving force' of his technique.
It looks like he's playing regular heel up with his right foot and regular heel down with his left - in both cases the muscle causing the foot to drive the pedal downwards will be gastrocnemius - whose function is to plantarflex the foot at the ankle joint - same motion as if you're standing on tiptoes.
raise your leg, then stamp your foot on the ground. tell me that's not mostly hip flexor engagement.
Hip flexor lifts leg up, glutes push it back down. So glutes (not hip flexors) would be propelling foot into pedal. But I doubt you'd be using such a large muscle group such as glutes to play 250bpm. Smaller muscle groups come into play the faster you go, same as using shoulder for big slow strokes and wrist/fingers for speed.
And you can even see his right foot pivoting up and down at the ankle joint (as he states himself), so clearly his foot is not locked and playing solely from the glutes at the hip joint. It's just technically sound heel-up playing - same as pretty much every metal drummer uses.
With the left foot, he plays heel down so there physically cannot be any hip flexor involvement in producing the stroke.
what really nice is, tha he played for two days in front of me and I see how many experts type with no idea of what they are saying. go play drums and respect guy like dereck who really kick asses !
I want tot see it in slow motion.
UA-cam has a great slow down feature. I used it to slow this one down. You are right, it is the only way to really see what is going on. For instance; at full speed, it looked like his left foot was totally heel down. Slow, you can see he is really floating the left foot just like the right but much lower.
i saw another video of him at a clinic explaining "flatfoot"
and off the pedals, he actually does demonstrate flatfoot stomping on the floor, entirely from the hip, and it's actually quite fast.
it seems like he is against the idea of playing from the ankle, because it's "weaker", and i guess he's insecure.
he absolutely, unequivocally is playing from his ankle here. at least on his right foot anyway.
at 0:18 you can CLEARLY see his leg is completely stable and his foot is moving, the same way anybody else plays from the ankle.
not to mention those don't SOUND like leg strokes.
is he just insecure and is lying to us/himself? or does he really think hes playing from the hip?
He probably thinks he's playing from the hip and doesn't understand the biomechanics of what he's actually doing - which is playing regular (ankle-motion) heel up with the right foot and regular heel down with the left
eh you still have to stabilize your whole leg with those larger groups, and if they don't exist (your legs are super weak or untrained) you have to hit those spots first. then you have an actual stable leg to start isolating the ankle muscle with. it's easy enough to forget how hard those initial parts were -
and also if his leg isn't stiff af while he's playing, he probably still feels the resonance going all the way back up towards his hips.
but I agree that it 100% looks like straight ankle technique.
This! This has always confused me a bit with Roddy. The way that he explains it and the way it actually looks doesn't line up. You can only go so fast stomping with your whole leg..
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I like! Keep it up!
I play that way too.
so uneven