Hiding a Turbocharger in a '94 Ford Lightning MuscleTrux Wars Part 3 - Trucks! S10, E3

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • It's Blue Oval boy Kevin's turn to take over the shop and kick Ryan out as he takes a radical approach to more power by turbocharging his V-8. Hidden under the bed, a tailpipe turbo spins up the boost while bigger fuel injectors and a new fuel management system pump up the power on this big red Ford.
    Follow the match up in the MuscleTrux Wars playlist:
    • MuscleTrux Wars - '90 ...
    PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
    B&M Racing: B&M Shift Improver Kit for E40D Transmission, synthetic "Trick Shift" Fluids.
    B&M Racing: B&M Shift Improver Kit for Turbo 400, synthetic "Trick Shift" fluids.
    BBK Performance: 75 mm throttle body.
    BBK Performance: Inline fuel pump.
    BBK Performance: Polished ceramic coated shorty headers 1.625 primaries.
    Dunne-Rite Performance LLC: Mass Air Flow Conversion with stand-alone engine controller.
    Dunne-Rite Performance LLC: Stand-alone transmission controller.
    Edelbrock: Pro-Flo EFI setup with manifold and calibration chip, hydraulic roller lifters, hydraulic roller camshaft, exhaust headers, gasket kit set, timing set, head bolts, intake bolts, heat treated pushrods, aluminum cylinder heads.
    Flowmaster: Universal tailpipe kit and various offset bends, Scavenger Y-pipe.
    Goodmark Industries: Steel cowl induction hood.
    Quadratec: Metal grille inserts for Jeep JK and Jeep TJ.
    Robert Bosch LLC: Aftermarket fuel injector set.
    STS Turbo: Stage Three Universal Turbo Kit. Included with all STS Universal Kits is the Patented STS Remote Mount Turbo Oil System, STS professionally selected turbocharger, wastegate and flanges along with STS Remote Mount Universal Turbo Kit Installation Manual.
    Summit Racing: Spark plug wires, Ford TFI coil, Summit Racing street & strip boost timing master multi-spark digital CD ignition.
    TCI Automotive: E40D 4 lug Maximizer torque convertor.
    WD-40: Smart Straw and Big Blast aerosol cans.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 824

  • @Hyprmtr
    @Hyprmtr 4 роки тому +43

    OMG!! This is my old Lightning!! The valve covers are embarrassing but this is so cool! It looks great. I miss that truck.

    • @JW-fq4vl
      @JW-fq4vl 4 роки тому +1

      Did they tell you it would be on a TV show

    • @deeplyclosetedindividual
      @deeplyclosetedindividual 4 роки тому +6

      Yeah that's my old truck too! Sorry about the welds... was hammered.

    • @ingmarvanolffen
      @ingmarvanolffen 2 роки тому

      @@deeplyclosetedindividual wat

    • @gordonbombay676
      @gordonbombay676 11 місяців тому +2

      its actually my old truck. the dent they pointed out in the first episode is from where i went to hit my wife but missed and hit the truck. Sure miss that old girl. gobless.

    • @dwaynerush9599
      @dwaynerush9599 7 місяців тому

      The wife or the truck?@@gordonbombay676

  • @Cneal83
    @Cneal83 4 роки тому +163

    Damn I remember watching this about 10 years ago on Saturday or Sunday mornings good times

  • @chalupamsf
    @chalupamsf 4 роки тому +109

    I feel like the narrator always wears sunglasses while recording lol

  • @mrdauntl3ss
    @mrdauntl3ss 4 роки тому +153

    "They kicked me out of the shop but this is what they did"

  • @americanman911
    @americanman911 4 роки тому +14

    I love how these guys made stuff seem simple when you didn’t know anything as a kid shows like this give a lot of confidence to people starting out, plus I’m loving these truck videos

  • @seancarraher
    @seancarraher 4 роки тому +62

    Chevy guy : “where did you put the turbo?”
    Ford guy : “ Right After the cats so they
    can heat the inlet air up and
    make the turbo hotter.”
    Chevy guy : “Well at least you have an
    intercooler for the outlet air”
    Ford guy : ☹️

    • @smokesgtp
      @smokesgtp 4 роки тому +3

      Agreed. One of the weirdest things I've seen

    • @lect0n7
      @lect0n7 4 роки тому +2

      @CockYaLegS
      blah-blah-blah, they'd be better off either with a CRY02 system to use CO2 to force cool the pipe...I've done it with a 20oz Paintball CO2 tank before with a stainless steel braided _Paintball Remote Tank Line_ into a hole I drilled into an Autozone cold air intake and a fitting I made myself with parts I found by chance at a hardware store in Ashland, Massachusetts which isn't even there anymore last I saw... I opened the remote line valve, it sprayed CO2 straight into the cold air intake pipe, and SOMETHING DEFINITELY HAPPENED....

    • @orbitprodutions
      @orbitprodutions 4 роки тому +1

      seancarraher I’m dead

    • @tyrone5159
      @tyrone5159 3 роки тому +1

      This is the worst placement for a turbo IMO. What happens when they lose a universal joint and sling the driveshaft out beating the turbo to death in the process.

  • @billiondollardan
    @billiondollardan 4 роки тому +88

    Old Tommy back there all quiet gettin no love

    • @473sgpm2
      @473sgpm2 4 роки тому +1

      billiondollardan 😂😂😂

    • @josemoralesjimenez4730
      @josemoralesjimenez4730 4 роки тому +1

      @@473sgpm2@GHZtaDD444o385high444oD444o385high444oD385high @ioDat847tuttiD444o385high444o444o385highD444o385high444oD444o385high444o385high444o385high444oD444o385high444oD444o385high385high444o444oD385highD444o444o444o385high444oD385high444o385highD444o385highD385highD

    • @davenelson1571
      @davenelson1571 4 роки тому +6

      Yeah true. But a little known fact is that he, & Amish Mike do tutorials for the Victoria's Secret ladies in the art of making love. That's why they always looks so tired & drained!

    • @grantw.whitwam9948
      @grantw.whitwam9948 4 роки тому +1

      He must be the work horse, you can't get things done without one.

  • @oxidizedolive
    @oxidizedolive 4 роки тому +3

    “You see all these boxes? You’re not gonna find out what’s in them until it’s too late, so get your sh*t and get out.” 🤣💀

  • @NVzla
    @NVzla 4 роки тому +103

    The turbocharger would have easily fit in the engine bay. Less ducting, added cooled oil from engine, ease pf servicing. I would have optioned for 2 smaller turbo instead of one larger one.

    • @codyparker679
      @codyparker679 4 роки тому +15

      The turbo under the hood wouldnt be hard at all and intercooler it and efficiently be way better

    • @shigeolincolntaco
      @shigeolincolntaco 4 роки тому +12

      @@codyparker679 The long run from the turbo back to the engine acts like a intercooler

    • @sz2804
      @sz2804 4 роки тому +10

      @@shigeolincolntaco Yeah, however with this whole lot of piping your turbo lag is enormous. To spool up your turbo you need to wait a while and to compress air in pipe so long it takes time too.

    • @superkillr
      @superkillr 4 роки тому +8

      This is STS's commercial spot.

    • @spodula
      @spodula 4 роки тому +4

      Got to wonder if they got a load of 3" pipe that has been lieng around for ages, and they wanted rid of....

  • @davenelson1571
    @davenelson1571 4 роки тому +25

    It's a smart move bringing Tommy into the team, he's a hardworking genius.
    Now recruit Amish Mike & your certain to win!

    • @basshead.
      @basshead. 4 роки тому

      Amish Mike is the best.

    • @davenelson1571
      @davenelson1571 4 роки тому

      basshead
      Yeah sure is & when he's not building & tuning engines, he gives tutorials to the Victoria's Secret ladies in how to make love the Amish Mike way!

    • @catfisher420
      @catfisher420 4 роки тому

      who is tommy and why are you in love?

    • @davenelson1571
      @davenelson1571 4 роки тому

      catfisher420 so you've watched powernation but you don't know who Tommy Boshers, is?

  • @CJColvin
    @CJColvin 4 роки тому +68

    The first gen Lighting will always be my favorite.

  • @NCSTANGGUY
    @NCSTANGGUY 4 роки тому +1

    Miss our old 94 Lightning we had 2000-2006. Stock engine..Vortech S trim @ 15 psi,Powerstroke intercooler,long tubes....made well into the mid 400s and ran 12.0's @ 113-114 with the stock convertor and just a Level 10 shift kit in the trans. EEC tuner still with the stock speed density.

  • @TheSlim93gt
    @TheSlim93gt 4 роки тому +71

    Let's put this 75mm throttle body up against the stock small bore EGR spacer. I'm sure it will help...

    • @mateobravo1324
      @mateobravo1324 4 роки тому +6

      That's what I was thinking.
      Get the same flow as the stock tb

    • @salvadordollyparton666
      @salvadordollyparton666 4 роки тому +5

      I think this all looks fairly futile... Probably end up with an extra 50 horses from when it was new.

    • @deefisher5157
      @deefisher5157 4 роки тому +4

      hearin ya but isnt that spacer still bigger than 75 mm

    • @Shadow0fd3ath24
      @Shadow0fd3ath24 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah theyre gonna make MAYBE 300whp on this turd

    • @jeffhurckes190
      @jeffhurckes190 4 роки тому +1

      Remove the spacer and delete the EGR. The added pressure differential inherent with turbocharging makes egr tuning difficult and is why most manufacturers now simulate egr with variable cam timing.

  • @zacharysmith7324
    @zacharysmith7324 4 роки тому +36

    How to spray wd40 on the floor

  • @mateobravo1324
    @mateobravo1324 4 роки тому +52

    Hope that throttle body was port matched to the intake manifold.
    Otherwise you get the same flow as the old throttle body.

    • @spar8334
      @spar8334 4 роки тому +3

      Well it was a BBK throttle body anyways ive seen a few of them fall apart while making runs on dyno

    • @sirdavidr6064
      @sirdavidr6064 4 роки тому +1

      You have it backwards. The manifold to the throttle body but the restriction is actually the factory size EGR spacer. Don’t understand why they didn’t also get the EGR spacer

  • @mikehorb9485
    @mikehorb9485 4 роки тому +21

    Oh baby, good luck having that turbo sitting under there. You're gonna hydrolock rolling over a spilled soda.

    • @mikehorb9485
      @mikehorb9485 4 роки тому +1

      @Adam Lolno hydrolocking is when you intake a liquid (almost always water of some sort, rain, wading through a river etc) into the motor and cylinders. Water is a lot denser than air, and it cant be compressed as well. Your pistons rise in the cylinders and try to compress something that doesnt compress and your motor almost 99% of the time is completely trashed, like throwaway worthy. His intake (the filter on the turbo) is under the car.... with no shield.... on a lowered truck.... you get me?

    • @leonelrivera8546
      @leonelrivera8546 4 роки тому +4

      They mentioned making a sheet metal splash shield

    • @salvadordollyparton666
      @salvadordollyparton666 4 роки тому +3

      There is this new thing the kids are doing called rain, but whatever. Fucking pointless with that big ugly charge pipe and blow off under the hood anyway. And the air is probably gonna be hot as hell by the time it hits the intake as well.

    • @Highstranger951
      @Highstranger951 4 роки тому +2

      Sixth Lord the air will be hot because it’s compressed. All of the extra tubing actually will help dissipate heat like a charge air cooler.

    • @jeramiebradford1
      @jeramiebradford1 4 роки тому

      @@Highstranger951 I think it will not due to the fact that all that extra intake is routed so close to the exhaust

  • @dimmn82
    @dimmn82 4 роки тому +14

    It was cute when he said it has to pass emissions.

    • @cameronslater7086
      @cameronslater7086 4 роки тому +1

      Brian Adams hank hill wouldn’t ever miss an emissions test

  • @darrenporsch
    @darrenporsch 4 роки тому +5

    I know the pipe running back to the front from the rear mounted Turbo is supposed to help cool the charge. but I'm sorry I'd never put a turbo on without an intercooler. Plus that return pipe is too close to the exhaust you're going to get heat soak I don't care what they say he needs some kind of heat shield on it

  • @danareynolds1786
    @danareynolds1786 4 роки тому +51

    E-FORTY-D! Gotta laugh again!!!🤣🤣🤣

    • @460EFI
      @460EFI 4 роки тому +4

      Glad I'm not the only one. Lol. E4OD, as in Overdrive. 🤦‍♂️😂

    • @johnbrown2030
      @johnbrown2030 4 роки тому

      I was thinking exactly the same thing 😂

    • @taylormclaughlin6737
      @taylormclaughlin6737 4 роки тому

      Lol that’s what I said too

    • @britjamaine9229
      @britjamaine9229 4 роки тому

      Is this guy really qualified? Or does he just play one on t.v.

    • @joshgraves6630
      @joshgraves6630 4 роки тому

      Yeah lol

  • @bobbyemerson46
    @bobbyemerson46 4 роки тому +12

    Damn! Powernation is on top of things. Love love love all the videos on a daily basis! Reminds me of watching spike tv back in the day on Saturday/Sunday mornings.

  • @blindskt89
    @blindskt89 4 роки тому +2

    The Ford is going to hit peak boost by the time the race is over is all that turbo lag. Lol.

  • @danielgoetz7821
    @danielgoetz7821 4 роки тому +4

    Really sweet turbo set up. I must say, I would want to be able to drive during the rain and don't really see that being realized with where the turbo is. Can't wait to see the dyno pulls for both these.

  • @zangardo3937
    @zangardo3937 4 роки тому +55

    That's a horrendous valve cover modification.

    • @bobbymcearlton
      @bobbymcearlton 4 роки тому +10

      You bet, we all know if you want to increase HP you gotta dent the headers not the valve covers.

  • @guardrail2897
    @guardrail2897 4 роки тому +12

    All that work to those trucks and still slower than a stock GMC Syclone.

  • @flp5218
    @flp5218 4 роки тому +34

    Doesn't want turbulence into the MAF but then puts a BOV immediately in front of it...

    • @themotorfreak1
      @themotorfreak1 4 роки тому +3

      no one cares what the engine does after you let off the throttle tho. It might cause it to pop and sputter, but that 5.0 will be at 4.5k - 2.5k RPM, and will just be free spinning, with minimal fuel and wear on the motor. Also not out of the realm to hear at a Street orientated Drag night. hell, Sloppy mechanic's Matt has been doing BOV next to the MAF for years at this point on his chevy builds

    • @aussi3212
      @aussi3212 4 роки тому +2

      thats a good idea , as it vents pressure not exactly large amounts of air, and its venting pre maf , so the maf dont know about that air.

    • @Alaska7506
      @Alaska7506 4 роки тому +5

      @@themotorfreak1 Just to let you know, the Lightning's came with a 351 Windsor 5.8, not a 5.0. Both great engines though!

    • @TheMattc999
      @TheMattc999 4 роки тому +1

      Tony K holy fuck these idiots would've been better off just throwing some good heads a good cam and a decent intake on it.....

    • @madmax2069
      @madmax2069 4 роки тому +1

      @@themotorfreak1 exactly, people are just idiots.

  • @Brock_Landers
    @Brock_Landers 4 роки тому +3

    When I was 18 I worked at a buy here, pay here dealership and he got on a pickup kick. For some reason he bought a red 93 Lightning 351 and a black 90 Chevy 454SS at auction and I drove them both because I grew up in the 80s and 90s, so these trucks were icons. The 454SS was quick, but in stock form other than an exhaust, it wasn't very much faster than a standard single cab 350 1500. The Lightning felt totally different from a standard 302 powered F-150, or even a 351 powered F-250. It was quick and powerful and it actually handled decently after we replaced the shocks, springs, and all bushings. I honestly couldn't imagine turbocharging that truck, and if the engine is healthy enough without blowby and no oil consumption, it'll handle more than 7-10 lbs of boost with supporting mods like new quality MLS head gaskets, head studs, a boost focused cam, maybe some heads (but not necessary), bigger injectors, larger fuel pump, and a standalone engine management system like Megasquirt or AEM. With a good tune that 351 with the STS kit should have no problem making 6-700 whp (depending on how big the exhaust housing is on that turbo and how much boost it's capable of producing. That being said, you could always upgrade the turbocharger later down the road. The same could be said for that 454, but it can also be Procharged...😉

    • @231mac
      @231mac 4 роки тому

      I don't ever remember the 454SS being an 'icon'. It was universally dogged by everybody when it came out. Absolutely no one liked that truck, not even us GM guys, lol. And you will NEVER get 6-700hp at 7-10 psi on that 351. ESPECIALLY with those crap cast-iron GT-40 heads, LOL.

  • @84gssteve
    @84gssteve 4 роки тому +5

    Glad to see E-40 is still expanding his business model ! Rapper, entertainer, entrepreneur, transmission designer...…...uhg!!!

  • @rb26xs14
    @rb26xs14 4 роки тому +43

    Lord, can only imagine the boost creep with that wastegate placement.

    • @302hobronco
      @302hobronco 4 роки тому +7

      It has to feel laggy to with all that tubing from turbo to engine.

    • @CAZEDUPLESSIS
      @CAZEDUPLESSIS 4 роки тому

      What about the turbo lag with the turbo placement ?

    • @kalyndyck315
      @kalyndyck315 4 роки тому +8

      That placement is optimal. When the wastgate opens, the exhaust wants to flow straight into the wastgate rather than turning 90 degrees up into the turbo. They did a great job.

    • @madmax2069
      @madmax2069 4 роки тому

      @bobwatters turbo placement is just fine, with a splash shield you wont have to worry about much.

    • @speedyme200
      @speedyme200 4 роки тому +1

      @@madmax2069 but what concerns me with the pod filter getting drenched driving in a rainstorm with the mist of water underneath the truck from the tires

  • @jamesm568
    @jamesm568 4 роки тому +25

    I've never seen anything like this happening in a normal person's garage.

    • @1stockcam
      @1stockcam 4 роки тому +5

      I slapped together a twin turbo 351w in my normal garage this year. Except my headers ended up resembling the valve covers in this video.

    • @RobertBreckenridge13
      @RobertBreckenridge13 4 роки тому +5

      You need less normal friends.

    • @robsorgdrager8477
      @robsorgdrager8477 4 роки тому +2

      What's your idea of " normal "?
      I think you were looking for the word " lame " or " boring ".

  • @orbitprodutions
    @orbitprodutions 4 роки тому +1

    So you can get all of that “POE-tential”. Love that part

  • @fixitluis
    @fixitluis 4 роки тому +2

    Cats before a turbo, what a killer for efficiency

    • @jeremiahthawley
      @jeremiahthawley 4 роки тому +1

      That terrifies me, can you imagine bits from that flying into the compressor? Yoikes Shaggy!

  • @michaelcuff5780
    @michaelcuff5780 4 роки тому +7

    The Lightening with the supercharger is no joke!

    • @JW...-oj5iw
      @JW...-oj5iw 4 роки тому +1

      Michael Cuff ... Adding a supercharger doesn't lighten the vehicle. Or were you talking about two different procedures? Lightening the vehicle elsewhere and then adding a supercharger to the lightened vehicle? Lightening about any vehicle will help with acceleration if enough weight is removed. Of course it needs to be taken from an area that won't reduce drive tires traction, or it could be detrimental to actual acceleration, due to wheel spin.

    • @JW...-oj5iw
      @JW...-oj5iw 4 роки тому +1

      Mason Elam ... What truck?

    • @JW...-oj5iw
      @JW...-oj5iw 4 роки тому

      Or what truck dude?

    • @michaelcuff5780
      @michaelcuff5780 4 роки тому +2

      J W fuckin sad

    • @jaystein1405
      @jaystein1405 4 роки тому

      @@JW...-oj5iw he spealt Lightning wrong

  • @trentdawg2832
    @trentdawg2832 4 роки тому +12

    I remember this episode on TV like 10 yrs ago....

    • @SchnelleKat
      @SchnelleKat 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, that's what i was guessing.

    • @MAL-92
      @MAL-92 4 роки тому +1

      Wow so this is pretty old then huh! I was wondering!

    • @beeleo
      @beeleo 4 роки тому +2

      Since the closing shot shows a 2010 'rights reserved,' I'd say you were about right.

    • @christophercarpenter7536
      @christophercarpenter7536 4 роки тому

      Lol, I was wondering about that smart straw, too. Now they got the bendable straws. I keep one or two off the empty cans for other misc sprays.

    • @elonmust7470
      @elonmust7470 4 роки тому

      Yeah almost completely irrelevant.
      Gotta move those dusty 6al boxes & 4150 double pumpers.

  • @josph209
    @josph209 4 роки тому +5

    When you don’t want a dump pipe coming out the hood so you put the turbo under the bed

  • @JamesWilliams-eg1gm
    @JamesWilliams-eg1gm 4 роки тому +39

    All us Chevy guys know those Lightnings are no joke

    • @AndyR1982
      @AndyR1982 4 роки тому +7

      The problem with the SS trucks was the TBI. If there would have been a comparable mpfi setup the truck wouldn't have been so bad

    • @guardrail2897
      @guardrail2897 4 роки тому +7

      Even the supercharged Lightning got torched by the GMC Syclone. Which is the fastest stock production truck ever built. That record still stands today.

    • @Highstranger951
      @Highstranger951 4 роки тому +9

      Guardrail nope, Roush Nitemare has held the record for a year or two. Before that the ram srt10 was holding the trophy. The syclone has been defeated for years.

    • @guardrail2897
      @guardrail2897 4 роки тому

      @@Highstranger951 Sorry dude. Go back and research. The Ram SRT10 was 2/10ths slower. I'll research the Nightmare. I've never heard of it.

    • @guardrail2897
      @guardrail2897 4 роки тому

      @@JW...-oj5iw Oops.

  • @BadLuckGarage
    @BadLuckGarage 4 роки тому

    Says "electronic boost valve" while holding up a manually adjustable regulator as demonstration. God I love these guys. 😂

  • @sirdavidr6064
    @sirdavidr6064 4 роки тому +2

    Catalytic placed pre turbo is a terrible idea. Always mount post turbo

    • @jeffhurckes190
      @jeffhurckes190 4 роки тому

      Exactly. You will be forced to install the oxygen sensors in the pressure side of the exhaust system then. Wideband (and to a lesser extent narrowband) oxygen sensors will have their results skewed by the pressure differential between the sense element and ambient. AEM makes a kit for their multiple wideband controller that includes an exhaust MAP sensor and can compensate accordingly, but thats so far the only kit I know of that can do that function. You also have to deal with the increased heat levels pre turbo.

  • @BadLuckGarage
    @BadLuckGarage 4 роки тому

    Bought one of these STS kits 3 years ago used for $250 and cut it up to build a turbo kit for my ls swapped C10. That little T66 turbo was a bit laggy as a rear mount but lit off right off idle mounted up front behind a 6.0. Of course it had so much back pressure it felt like I was actually losing power above 5000rpms. 🙄

  • @josuemontenegro874
    @josuemontenegro874 4 роки тому +54

    Holly mother of lag 😬😬

    • @SethBergile
      @SethBergile 4 роки тому +15

      Everything to not do with a Turbo.
      No intercooler
      Horrible intake placement. Right next to the hot side.
      Cold side running parallel with hot side.
      5 psi.....

    • @julianslowik5387
      @julianslowik5387 4 роки тому +5

      For real they should have atleast threw a meth injection kit on there to ensure the intake temps are cool

    • @steveseattle6791
      @steveseattle6791 4 роки тому +5

      Nothing like taking the longest cold side and pitting an extra huge loop in it under the hood!
      I think the Chevy is going to be the victor vs worst turbo kit ever

    • @groucho692
      @groucho692 4 роки тому +3

      Its actually a proven technology STS turbos has been running this type of setup for years

    • @elonmust7470
      @elonmust7470 4 роки тому +1

      @@groucho692 junk...

  • @aaronmenchinger
    @aaronmenchinger 4 роки тому +3

    That's my old lightning⚡ holy crap...it really is, No Way!!! Unless the custom valve cover mod was more popular than I thought haha

    • @haatch999
      @haatch999 4 роки тому +1

      Vid was made 10 yrs ago did u sell a lightning round then?

    • @aaronmenchinger
      @aaronmenchinger 4 роки тому

      @@haatch999 had it for a year after highschool. Class of 06👍🤷🤔

    • @jaystein1405
      @jaystein1405 4 роки тому +1

      Who did your exhaust? It looks like a blind guy did the welding

    • @andywagoner4869
      @andywagoner4869 4 роки тому +1

      What was the purpose of the valve cover "mod"?

  • @Brieken90
    @Brieken90 4 роки тому +36

    Plans to increase power, adds turbo, then puts cats in to restrict said power 🤦‍♂️

    • @ericstevenson7696
      @ericstevenson7696 4 роки тому +15

      Theyre a sponsored show. They cant depict or condone "illegal" mods

    • @ericbachmann8037
      @ericbachmann8037 4 роки тому +3

      They are high flow cats, it’ll be ok.

    • @matthewmajcher7180
      @matthewmajcher7180 4 роки тому +11

      @@bigboreracing356 Lmao

    • @GunSnob
      @GunSnob 4 роки тому +15

      "Can't depict or condone illegal mods"
      Pans into them doing donuts on public roads.

    • @Clobercow1
      @Clobercow1 4 роки тому +2

      Legality matters and the power loss will be minimal.

  • @dtrain8335
    @dtrain8335 4 роки тому +19

    I almost fell out of my chair when he said they were switching from a speed density setup to a mass air sensor to accommodate for a turbocharger! I can only assume thats to keep it "plug and play" because they can't tune it themselves. Seems like a lot of money wasted to essentially take a step backwards.

    • @benruether8294
      @benruether8294 4 роки тому +1

      15 years ago, everbody did it this way. Not sure why, maybe stand alone speed density was too expensive. I'm going with Holley Terminator X for my sbf

    • @ProfessorLX
      @ProfessorLX 4 роки тому +1

      @@benruether8294 I did a speed density stand alone on my 1988 Mustang in 2004, from Western Motorsports called the SDS, it cost about $1400 or so back in those days and was not quite plug and play but close. The car ran great like that for about 14 years and now has a Holley HP EFI in it.

    • @benruether8294
      @benruether8294 4 роки тому +1

      @@ProfessorLX I'm dealing with my stock cobra j3jl computer at the moment which has the worst spark tables known to man. Lol, it will be gone soon for my next engine coming around spring next year.

    • @dtrain8335
      @dtrain8335 4 роки тому

      @Brian My point is speed density is much easier and better to tune with when you are able to make your own fuel and timing maps and tune yourself. Mass air is a lot more "user friendly" so to speak so I get why they used it in this episode. I was also shocked that he put the mass air sensor right before the TB. That's kind of an old school cheater trick I've seen used in the old Mazdaspeed crowd. Believe me I'm all for the down and dirty tricks that work and don't cost a fortune.

    • @dtrain8335
      @dtrain8335 4 роки тому

      @Brian There were other ways to tune a Ford back then. I wasn't talking about a stock Ford ECU though. They basically just piggybacked the stock ecu which was the norm for most backyard hot rodders back then.

  • @toddbob55
    @toddbob55 4 роки тому +4

    F-150 WAS AND STILL IS THE BEST BUILT TRUCK.

  • @98snakehorse
    @98snakehorse 4 роки тому +1

    Rear mount turbo.... sounds good but not efficient lol / With a Megasquirt ECU and On3 turbo setup this thing would have made gobs of power.

    • @superkillr
      @superkillr 4 роки тому +1

      When this was filmed I can't remember where megasquirt was in development, but you are correct.

    • @98snakehorse
      @98snakehorse 4 роки тому

      superkillr I didn’t realized this wasn’t recent... what year? I had a mega squirt setup on my 95 5.0 mustang back in 2011

    • @superkillr
      @superkillr 4 роки тому +1

      @@98snakehorse --2010. I had a MS1 and MS3 on a turbo fox body. It was the only time I could get that thing to run right once I dumped the overly complicated factory stuff and chips.

  • @ReadMyDiscription.223
    @ReadMyDiscription.223 4 роки тому +11

    Rear turbo mounts are so 2003-04 🤣🤣🤣

    • @ItsJoshN
      @ItsJoshN 4 роки тому

      Nimbus Nimbus they mentioned 07-08 jeeps in the ads near the end?

  • @powerobsession734
    @powerobsession734 4 роки тому +3

    that lightning going to have some serious turbo lag...

  • @russelltossetti3517
    @russelltossetti3517 4 роки тому +18

    They should find a buddy that knows how to weld

  • @boostedsaleen6146
    @boostedsaleen6146 4 роки тому

    Holley efi is a game changer now with trans control built in , using a trans controller and a piggy back mass air ecu makes for a bunch of clutter .

  • @bronsoncashiola1426
    @bronsoncashiola1426 4 роки тому +1

    This was the best shows comparing these iconic trucks! The Lightening inspired me to build 2 bad ass trucks in my life. Currently it’s a Red ‘07 Chevy single cab fully built 6.0 lq4 D1 Procharger and Jakes Performance 4l80 3600 stall. 675whp on only 11psi....Built by Asylum Motorsports. Single cab short beds will always be my passion. Can’t wait till they show the final episode.

  • @Hamza-or7jm
    @Hamza-or7jm 4 роки тому +2

    I lol so hard at the turbo drain line. Turbo smoke city here we come.

  • @popwarhomie
    @popwarhomie 4 роки тому +2

    I miss my 94 Lightning so much. :( Should have put a punisher comp valve body and 3000 stall converter in the trans. Made a huge difference in mine. No intercooler??

    • @P71ScrewHead
      @P71ScrewHead 4 роки тому

      what happened to it??

    • @popwarhomie
      @popwarhomie 4 роки тому +1

      @@P71ScrewHead Had a blow out that destroyed the side of the bed. Never had the time to fix it and it just sat for a few years until I sold it.

    • @P71ScrewHead
      @P71ScrewHead 4 роки тому

      @@popwarhomie Damn, that sucks, I got many cars myself just sitting, gotta fix up or get rid of, ouch..lol

  • @Blackinterceptor999
    @Blackinterceptor999 4 роки тому +1

    That 351w would fit perfect in a box body Crown Vic, and the '03+ crown Vic chassis with the updated brakes and suspension and steering is an almost direct swap and they are affordable....Just sayin...easy muscle car.

  • @bakfixx
    @bakfixx 4 роки тому +6

    I think I would have done a Vortech supercharger instead.

  • @lovelooslivideos
    @lovelooslivideos 4 роки тому +1

    Dude that filter is gonna light on fire that close to the exhaust haha.

  • @mickeymang6
    @mickeymang6 4 роки тому +1

    Wish the Ford build went stroker build. Like a 396+. I'm sure wherever this truck is now hopefully someone took off the garage rear turbo set up.

  • @mchristr
    @mchristr 4 роки тому +2

    A 428 stroker kit would have made this a more apples-to-apples comparison. But hindsight...

  • @MrChevystroker383
    @MrChevystroker383 4 роки тому

    Man these guys are working the shit out of poor ole Tommy 😂. They do all the talking while he's doing all the work.

  • @steenlassen5718
    @steenlassen5718 4 роки тому

    Today you clamp the turbo directly on the head for better responce. You also avoid to much piping. This one is going to laaaaag!!!!

  • @jlsgarage872
    @jlsgarage872 4 роки тому

    Yes the truck is legal in atleast Virginia where im at where if your vehicle is atleast 25 years old emissions is not required in inspection. My 94 k2500 just passed without one

  • @HoosierHacker
    @HoosierHacker 4 роки тому +112

    This is the ugliest turbo system I've seen lol

    • @flexthis1452
      @flexthis1452 4 роки тому +15

      Good thing you cant see it when it's down on the wheels

    • @flexthis1452
      @flexthis1452 4 роки тому +7

      Its would look and perform better up front not tucked away all ugly with long ass boosted pipes

    • @ryanh1222
      @ryanh1222 4 роки тому +18

      Can we say turbo lag

    • @scarface9617
      @scarface9617 4 роки тому +3

      @@ryanh1222 yea..57mins. Later.. I got your comment!😂

    • @ryanh1222
      @ryanh1222 4 роки тому

      @@scarface9617 Lmfao.

  • @473sgpm2
    @473sgpm2 4 роки тому +1

    Ain’t nothing like a Truck with a Turbo😍😍😍

  • @RickJesmer
    @RickJesmer 4 роки тому

    I've seen this truck north of Syracuse New York around 2009--2013 I recognize the exhaust underneath it because I was underneath looking at it . the guy that was checking the oil or doing something for the owner had the hood open so I could see the valve covers to.

  • @car-man
    @car-man 4 роки тому +15

    I run the car maintenance UA-cam channel in Korea. I'm always learning such a great ideas on your channel. I hope we have a chance to be together. Thank you.

  • @georgetinc9578
    @georgetinc9578 4 роки тому +47

    That has to be the Most Stupid Mount idea I've ever seen for a turbo...…… Seems like a bad location due to water dirt and grime.

    • @seancarraher
      @seancarraher 4 роки тому +5

      George Tinc Well it’s a Ford so it makes sense lol

    • @TRX450RVlogger
      @TRX450RVlogger 4 роки тому +11

      @@seancarraher You're a fuckin' moron. Because it's a Ford?? What the fuck sense does that make?! I'll tell you what I'm a Chevy guy but the 90's ford are so much better their interior and body exterior looks way better and more modern, their engines look much nicer, much more modern looking, cleaner... not some gay ass looking air cleaner sitting on top looking like carbureted bull shit then you have square body with rounded nice interior in the later 90's with old ass style looking 350 with a top hat air cleaner still on a throttle body fuel injection bull shit.

    • @fwh79FOXR6
      @fwh79FOXR6 4 роки тому +6

      @@TRX450RVlogger Well said. I'm a Ford guy, so I might have bias. So hearing a Chevy fan share my point of view on 90's Ford trucks makes me feel better. I will say though, the newer GMC Sierras are really some damn fine looking trucks.

    • @TRX450RVlogger
      @TRX450RVlogger 4 роки тому +2

      @@fwh79FOXR6 For sure man! I love the Chevy's and I love Fords, it's the Dodges I cannot stand to be honest. I only respect a Cummin's but that's i not to mention that the Cumin's isn't even a Dodge Product though lol.

    • @fwh79FOXR6
      @fwh79FOXR6 4 роки тому +2

      @@TRX450RVlogger I feel like it's pretty hard to beat the new GM trucks. I am interested in seeing how the new pushrod Ford engine does. Maybe Ford will start making better trucks now. Dodge trucks are really kind of boring. I don't think they can compete with GM. The new Sierra is just a damn sexy vehicle. That's hard to beat.

  • @dddeeee1
    @dddeeee1 4 роки тому +4

    Love the turbo set up

  • @ericbachmann8037
    @ericbachmann8037 4 роки тому +3

    Nothing like revisiting old episodes.

    • @duramax6411
      @duramax6411 4 роки тому

      How old is this stuff

    • @ericbachmann8037
      @ericbachmann8037 4 роки тому

      duramax
      I’m guessing 2010. I remember watching this series when they were new episodes. It’s been awhile.

  • @evinsprague
    @evinsprague 4 роки тому

    I always had a hard time waking up Sunday mornings to watch these shows. Pretty fun being able to watch them!

  • @Excitable101
    @Excitable101 4 роки тому +1

    let's put a turbo behind a hot engine and above a hot exhaust.

    • @bmw328igearhead
      @bmw328igearhead 4 роки тому

      If you knew anything... remote turbos run cooler than engine mounted turbos. Aaannnnnddddd last I checked, turbos RUN off of heat anyway, sooo mild efficiency loss... But being a few inches away (hot side vs cold side) will NOT make that much of a difference. If they were incontact with each other I could see an issue.
      It will survive longer remotely mounted, as it won't see the same heat cycling. A proper intake will give the turbo zero issues from ingesting debris. To anyone chirping lag... Minimal lag from remote mount turbo, this isn't a 1000whp beast with 90mm turbos, people that don't know boost, chirp about *lag*... size your exhaust appropriately (not using 4 inch hot side throughout, yes 2 inch works just fine on a truck V8 at those power levels) and learn how to weld so your pipe joints don't look like clusters of grapes (no leaks)... No intercooler required when you have 12-15 feet of boost tubing running through the air.
      *I love all the youtuber comments from boys that think they own/run race teams... This a JUST above stock truck...nothing more
      Turn off Forza/Gran Turismo and get out of your mama's basement!*

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 4 роки тому +1

    The first gen Lightning is the one of the coolest vehicles made since the '60s and early '70s. The SS is cool but it didn't get the attention it should have. I would have supercharged the SS.

    • @abo3abid1
      @abo3abid1 4 роки тому +1

      A supercharged BB would make a beast. The worst thing about BBs was their compression... And cooling, but I'll ignore that part

    • @michaelhowell2326
      @michaelhowell2326 4 роки тому

      @@abo3abid1 you got me there. But they wouldn't have to make the boost something ludicrous, just enough to get some power over the Lightning and to hear that whine from SC belt.

  • @pauld2672
    @pauld2672 4 роки тому +5

    Should have titled this :
    How to get maximum turbo lag.

    • @kalyndyck315
      @kalyndyck315 4 роки тому

      Won't be bad... One thing they should've done though is put the cats AFTER the turbo!

  • @i3oosted
    @i3oosted 4 роки тому

    "Hey Tommy, grab the mallet for these new valve covers we put on!"

  • @-ouv
    @-ouv 4 роки тому +9

    Yes!!!!!! Was waiting for episode 3!

  • @BobbyB910
    @BobbyB910 4 роки тому

    That Watergate placement is fuckin mint

  • @npp3559
    @npp3559 3 роки тому +1

    A tailpipe turbo is stupid so much extra tubing and oil lines what happens if it rains and you won’t make as much boost cuz the speed of the exhaust slows down towards the end would of been better with an engine bay turbo

  • @graygunter848
    @graygunter848 4 роки тому

    Well guess if it rains turn the boost up and that stock egr spacer with bigger tb and boost great idea.

  • @Itsme-mx5tl
    @Itsme-mx5tl 4 роки тому +1

    A Matt Happel LS swap would be cheaper and make more HP. But when big companies buy you shit I guess they won't complain

  • @tonystewart7179
    @tonystewart7179 4 роки тому

    I think the turbo setup hurt me physically I know this aired 10+ years ago but good god.

  • @forbiddenera
    @forbiddenera 4 роки тому

    Ugh. Speed density vs mass air flow doesn't matter for tuning what matters more is how tunable the stock ecu is and the limit of the stock MAP sensor. Even a MAF can be just as limited if it's not big enough for the airflow.

  • @nickma71
    @nickma71 3 роки тому

    Wrap the exhaust pipe, or have it ceramic coated. It's the heat that drives the turbo. The gases expand when they cool. You don't want them to lose heat before use.

  • @jeramiebradford1
    @jeramiebradford1 4 роки тому

    There used to be a band called Lagwagon and they rocked. They should name this truck Lagwagon in tribute to the band and in reference to the 15sqft of intake that has to be pressurized before boost comes on.

  • @theman68and1
    @theman68and1 4 роки тому +7

    E-4-OD not E-40-D

    • @brandonmccollum6349
      @brandonmccollum6349 4 роки тому

      They say this because it's quicker to say, rolls off the tongue better. Similar to when someone refers to a mustang w/ the 5.0L, they say 5O

  • @jakespeed63
    @jakespeed63 4 роки тому +2

    Nice job
    But...how much does all this cost????🤔

  • @rosalioalvarado9143
    @rosalioalvarado9143 4 роки тому +2

    I miss my 93 lightning great video

  • @cap1398
    @cap1398 4 роки тому +4

    Stuped Air Filter under neath.
    Suction Water inside Engine

  • @AtlasLathe
    @AtlasLathe 4 роки тому

    Let's pump all the hot air into the turbo and no charge air cooler. Room for 2 turbos cooler under hood with intercooler and cold air intake

  • @taddmason1187
    @taddmason1187 4 роки тому +16

    I wonder where these trucks are today.

    • @kalyndyck315
      @kalyndyck315 4 роки тому +1

      Was thinking the same thing !

    • @FaustoTheBoozehound
      @FaustoTheBoozehound 4 роки тому +1

      Pretty sure I read a long time ago in Car and Driver that they all get crushed 😟

    • @taddmason1187
      @taddmason1187 4 роки тому +3

      @@FaustoTheBoozehound that's messed up and pray that didn't happen to these

    • @Miguelspl150
      @Miguelspl150 4 роки тому +1

      @@FaustoTheBoozehound not really. Stacy still has copperhead

    • @basshead.
      @basshead. 4 роки тому

      +Tadd Mason Car lives don't matter.

  • @dwizzleusa4202
    @dwizzleusa4202 4 роки тому

    Damn 194rwhp was something back in the day lol.

  • @Joebauers2505
    @Joebauers2505 4 роки тому

    meanwhile you could easily use any centri blower or front mounted turbo and make alot more power on that 351

  • @batman9592
    @batman9592 4 роки тому

    No mention of welding wire dags going into the turbo (BAD) or rusty flakes of metal going into the engine (BAD) but you'll laugh at the original guys exhaust.
    I'm not even going to bother to mention the 48 feet of pipe or the million bends.

  • @bryanroupe8646
    @bryanroupe8646 4 роки тому

    Bigger TB does no good with the stock size spacer. Remote mount turbos are too laggy unless you have really small AR which isn't going to make as much top end so two would work. Me and my father did a remote mount on a 03 Silverado about 6 years ago with a 72mm and I believe a .96 AR and it was super laggy. This engine can handle 5x the boost there throwing at it.

  • @dwaynesurratt
    @dwaynesurratt 4 роки тому +4

    I say the FORD is going to win in the end

  • @mikemc4549
    @mikemc4549 2 роки тому

    It's an E-4-od transmission as in electronic 4 speed overdrive .Not an E-40-D

  • @scarface9617
    @scarface9617 4 роки тому

    Plenty of space under the hood to place that Turbo and a small intercooler!

  • @dsiner1obslifedziner157
    @dsiner1obslifedziner157 4 роки тому +5

    FIRST ON RACE DAY "
    FORD🇺🇸🏁

  • @bradbozarth1822
    @bradbozarth1822 4 роки тому

    And you are not required to have a windshield but you MUST have working windshield wipers in the state of Oregon

  • @krtacct
    @krtacct 4 роки тому +9

    “Intercooler” never heard of her, “alky injection” don’t drink and drive...smh. This shit is painful to watch. One more E 40 D and I’m running for the razor blades.

    • @TheMattc999
      @TheMattc999 4 роки тому +2

      krtacct yeah....I really wonder sometimes if these guys actually know what they are doing or if they just actively want every Ford they work on to lose....
      Edit- it's starting to more and more sound like they just really have no idea wtf they are doing. Throttle body let's more fuel into the engine? Seriously???

    • @ProfessorLX
      @ProfessorLX 4 роки тому +3

      couple things here,
      1) the long run of cold side piping does offer some cooling effect
      2) the fact that they are only running 5 PSI of boost means they won't be generating much heat in the charge air anyways.
      3) its a stock untouched engine, meaning no ARP hardware to help keep the heads down, no metal head gaskets etc.
      This isn't meant to make 1000 hp, its just to bump up the factory numbers and have some fun.

    • @blackcatcracker2012
      @blackcatcracker2012 4 роки тому +2

      ProfessorLX still the risk of detonation is worth at least an air to air. It means better engine health and no reason to need higher octane even at the track. Also it would have been nice to see some exhaust wrap or some insulation around the cold side plumbing

    • @ryanh1222
      @ryanh1222 4 роки тому

      Frozen boost systems are cheap! Should have picked one up.

  • @zachwilson9608
    @zachwilson9608 4 роки тому +1

    This channel is awesome

  • @SGTJDerek
    @SGTJDerek 4 роки тому +5

    I'd like to hear from someone who has run the Turbo underneath. Doesn't seem like a good plan to me.

    • @agoogleuser1188
      @agoogleuser1188 4 роки тому

      It's not so much lag the hoonigans have one on s*** car and it's terrible

    • @scarface9617
      @scarface9617 4 роки тому

      I had a rear mount on a '00ramair, worked ok.. but I'd go with front mount if I done it over myself!

    • @jaystein1405
      @jaystein1405 4 роки тому

      People only do that when they can't fit the shit under the hood. There's no benefit to it

    • @scarface9617
      @scarface9617 4 роки тому

      @@jaystein1405 It's a F-150! You could fit a few of these turbos inside that damn hood bay alone with a intercooler and the appearance and air flow would be much more than what you got here!

  • @mikel6989
    @mikel6989 4 роки тому

    That filter is gonna get dirty pretty quick under the truck like that. Said he was gonna make a shield but never saw one

    • @roberthawxhurst3717
      @roberthawxhurst3717 4 роки тому

      FILTER GET DIRTY?: Not really, washable oil-wetted filters don't filter worth a fuck they are essentially strainers. Much of the dust/dirt landing on the filter pass through it.

  • @coreycarter8469
    @coreycarter8469 4 роки тому +1

    Everyone on about turbo lag but where is the intercooler??? They just gonna throw all that hot air in the engine?? WTF